Make nyaa great again

FIRST for what's the best headless torrent program for linux

>>60208847
Transmission daemon or rtorrent

Last thread OP.

>>60206434

>>60208859
>rtorrent

is there a remote frontend for it?
I like to add shit on the go

>>60208874

look into rutorrent

How do I into web hosting?

An anon made a nyaa client based on the sql database
>>60206434#p60208658

>>60208847
Deluge is easy to set up and downloads crazy fast.
If you want to add hundreds of torrents at once you will be better off with rtorrent.

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>>60208829
Obviously he got that from nyaa pantsu.
It resolves for me, he only has to remove that %0a.

>>60208895
sorry forgot to say I'm replacing deluge

it crashed on me and deleted all my torrents

a shame since I used YaRSS2 and scheduler, so comfy

is this like some weeaboo torrenting site for torrenting hentai manga

>>60208912
yeah, rtorrent is your only real choice then

I see all these other torrent clients mentioned but no one talks about qbittorrent, why is that?

>>60208926
because of the stalled meme
there's always a thread for shitposting about it at least once a day

>>60208915
n-n-NO
>>60208926
qStalledMeme

>>60208926
I didn't think the stalled meme was real until it happened to me on windows

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>>60208941
>windows
you deserved it

>>60208941
>using windows

>>60208957
I dual boot with debian

Is there no way of seeing how many seeders/leechers torrent has without adding it to my client?

It would be very interesting to see some numbers on how much content is going to be downloaded in the near future.
I think that people are going to increasingly hoard the shit out of anime from now on.

>>60208978
>I think that people are going to increasingly hoard the shit out of 2D porn from now on.
fixed

>>60208974


Right, DHT is not properly tracked.

This was normal even when nyaa was up.. having "undef" or 0/0 on the listing, then loading it up and finding 5 seeds.

>>60208974
Thats what trackers are useful for

>>60208992
DHT shouldn't be visible straight away to begin with

I think the magnet links are fixed.

So can anyone explain what are the different colors for?

>>60208934
>>60208935
>>60208941
Isn't the stalling only for like a second at the start of the torrent?

>>60209044
red: remake
green: trusted
blue: best reviewed release

all according to nyaa's rules

>>60209032
>I think the magnet links are fixed.

work for me

>>60209032
Oh yeah and pagination is also fixed.
Forgot to purge the cache.

>>60208815
Blue entries:

-Torrents marked as A+ quality are blue in the torrent lists.
-These are exclusive torrents picked by us.
-They represent the best available version of this content.
-There will be no duplicates.
-Only versions that we actually consider worthy of a seal of approval will be listed.

Green entries: Torrents uploaded by trusted users are green in the torrent lists.

Orange entries: Torrents must be marked as remakes if any of the following applies to the release:

-Reencode of original release.
- Remux of another uploader's original release for hardsubbing and/or fixing purposes.
-Reupload of original release using non-original file names.
-Reupload of original release with missing and/or unrelated additional files.

>>60209044
Green = trusted author/group
Blue = A+ (best encode)
Red = re-encode/remake that's shittier/doesn't add anything

>>60209061
And for any other status that isn't detected properly, like when it's searching for DHT peers it still says stalled.

>>60209077
>>60209083
ty, I've never saw a blue torrent, only green and red.

>>60209108
When did the stall problem start? Is it just a UI display bug?

>>60209077

I love how they never actually followed their own rules.

I had unmarked torrents that were better than blue encodes.

There was a user named Catar (CTR) that re-muxed the releases of others and was never once labeled orange.

>>60209137
Wow, a whole user uploading torrents and the mods didn't catch it? How lax. Maybe Nyaa should've had a verification process where a torrent is not visible before mods vet through it.

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How large is the backup?
What format? Just JSON?

>>60209157


The mods knew about this guy.. and he was doing god's work honestly.

>>60209124
see
https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20160602125814/http://www.nyaa.se:80/?page=search&cats=0_0&filter=3&term=

blue were "A+ only"
>supposedly checked by staff

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>>60209137
Always assumed they give the blues to the groups they trust the most, downloading every encoding to check would be really tiresome.

>>60209032
Do you need some sleep yet m8? Been doing gods work today.

>>60209204
He's a 2nd year comp sci student, the last thing that bunch needs is sleep.

>>60209204
I slept like 10 hours ago.

if anyone wants to convert and merge dbs for me I could have the site up to date whenever you finish.
>>60209219
this
Also need to actually do some uni work at some point.

>>60209237
Proposal: We should use the opportunity and make the next site based on WebTorrents.
Clear advantages: No torrent client needed, easier access and live streaming (caters to the streamfags).
You may look into instant.io.

If you need help, I can give you my mail.

sha256
>4e7377739ef8cf2065e0676fd29c3a6173e52ff0698664768602b27152904b60

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>>60209330

>>60209330
My father used to torrent, just like his father before him. Stop your liberal bullshit - magnets or GTFO

>>60209330
>We
You mean you. Grab the April 5th database and fork.

>>60209344
>magnets or GTFO
https://github.com/webtorrent/magnet-uri

>>60209349
damn right.

>>60208813
This will amount to nothing, right?

Goddammit why was Nyaa run by incompetent retards

>>60209330
I did briefly consider adding web torrent support.

>>60209370
Don't.

Streaming is cancer

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>>60209330
>and live streaming (caters to the streamfags).

good luck streaming my 70 Mbps Blu-Ray rip of outlawstar

>>60209374
Exactly I won't.

>>60209137
His releases suck dick cause he never includes the chapters from the releases he muxes.
Also he puts dubs as default which is annoying as fuck, not too mention his releases seem to always come just a tad short from one other release that's just slightly better with actual chapters and without shitty dub bloat.

>>60209352
>Grab the April 5th database and fork.
I would rather join forces and not build a competing site.

>>60209374
>Streaming is cancer
You know, you are still downloading the file, without quality loss.

>>60209391
>without quality loss

>>60209391
Maybe if you watch sub30mbps garbage

>>60209391
>You know, you are still downloading the file, without quality loss.
First off, there is quality loss, second, without uploading while you're at it.
Why would you want to pander to shitty streamfags that only use and never give back?

>>60208847
rtorrent my dude

That with rutorrent running as a frontend is basically as good as it gets

>>60209391
>without quality loss

>>60209391
>I would rather join forces and not build a competing site.
You're doing it wrong. Now is the time to hydra, not fucking centralize.

>>60209391
Well the site is FOSS for a reason.
If you want to add anything feel free to add it and make a pr.
You could even make a userscript or something for nyaa clones.
It's also gonna have restful api support so it'll be easier if you do it.

>>60209391
>I would rather join forces and not build a competing site.
Why not? Monopoly is what brought us to this.
The more competition, the healthier the market!

>>60209423
So we build one repo and run db replication over multple endpoints, no?

>>60209400
>>60209410
>>60209412
>>60209419
You have no idea how BitTorrent works.

>>60209427
Where is the code?

>>60209391
> rather join forces and not build a competing site.
Aaaand we learned fucking nothing from nyaa's fall. Congrats!

>>60209440
read the OP m8.
>>60209437
That's the plan.
Still not sure how to go about federated or a decentralized db.

>>60209391
If there are competing sites, then in the case that one gets (((shut down))), we still have another to use

>>60209193
They have translators, editors etc looking at the releases of each group and decide which one is the "best" (their friends or their own group mostly)

I'm uploading the .torrents plus everything else in here, someone update the pastebin https://mega.nz/#F!ws5FjbLb!XOWGLOSrzymNYtOFp79M4Q

>>60209423
Distributed database plus search already exist https://github.com/Tribler/tribler
I've also created a channel there and loading torrents

>>60209450
>>60209437

Depending on the DB used, we could just have a single read-only user, for which the credentials are public, anyone can mirror as they will

>>60209423
>>60209434
>>60209441
>>60209460
Keep the code on git (e.g. Github) and liberate the data (provide database dumps).
That's enough to keep things decentralized.

someone made a better ver https://nyaarchive.moe/ kek

>>60209509
That is definitely better.

>>60209509
>hosted in russia.

protip:

dont host it in the shithole knows as EU

I'll set up a mirror now, gotta keep it all safe

>>60209534
Protip: you need to know English to post it on this site.

>>60209534
Yeah go in USA or UK, land of the "free" internet.

>>60209534
So where would you host it? South america? Asia? Africa? :^)

>>60209562
Japan or Norway

>>60209537
Mirrors are useless if the main site is kill

>>60209509
>2017-05-01
>descriptions
rip any competition.

>>60209574
Isn't hosting in japan expensive as fuck? Does Norway even have decent hosting providers?

>>60209598
Damn, now I feel bad for the pantsu developer

>>60209598
It's also up, which is not something Pantsu can claim.

>>60209509
It doesn't matter how good it looks if the guy doesn't release the source.
It's fine to have a single centralized website - it may even be better. The most important thing is having it open sourced so if it gets taken down someone can just clone git and nothing is lost.

>>60209509
>>60209598

No unicode support.

"[????] ?????? 04 ?? MP4 720p"

TOP KEK

>>60209509
Somebody scrape this shit.

>>60209509
>someone made a better ver https://nyaarchive.moe/ kek
Is It just me or it turned kanji into ???

>>60209646
>No unicode support.
You're retarded.

>>60209650
R18 has kanji support

>>60209610
eh I mean already plenty of alternatives already did exist.
I'm mainly doing this for fun and to help decentralize nyaa.
I also know that the guy made that site in php which I really wanted to avoid.
RSS feeds are being worked on and searching is being improved and the ui is also getting worked on.

>>60209650
https://nyaarchive.moe/?view/913626

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>>60209509
kek

>>60209668
I still can't get over the fact that you picked fucking Go though.

>>60209661

That's nice and all but there are a lot of good uploads in the regular section that have titles in the various japanese symbols.

https://nyaarchive.moe/?view/922993

>>60209509
> [????] ?????? 04 ?? MP4 720p
>>60209598
>>60209530
> descr: vstoike.com clients
Hmmm. Resolves to https://veesp.com/, can't say anything good or bad about the host, but yeah, could be anything, although it works without JS, should be safe.

>>60209682
Greatly under-appreciated language.
I'm a lot better at php but that doesn't mean I enjoy it.
View mode is also being worked on.

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Just filled a report to cloudflare regarding this archive
Bye weeaboos

>>60209687
He's probably working on it. Wonder why the R18 version has support for moon and the regular one doesnt.

>>60209709
Oh noooo
What have you doooone
Please take it baaaaaaack
Pleeeeeease

>>60209676
What shithole do you live in?

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>>60209509
So do we know who's behind this? Where did you find it?

>>60209716
Make search with 一般
Seems like it's May database ?ed all runes

>>60209716
>Wonder why the R18 version has support for moon and the regular one doesnt.
Because they're very clearly different backups.

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>>60209749
>making a backup of an anime database
>not properly supporting kanji

what the ever loving fuck..

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Threadly reminder to not be a faggot and keep seeding

>>60209776

Final stubborn torrents on the download end completed and I've re-loaded old torrents and opened the throttle...

of course transmissiond has stalling problems with large numbers of torrents so the best I can do..

>>60209734
>who
idk
>where
was linked by a friend

>>60209509
Ah, the russians are a resourceful bunch.

>>60209794
>A friend

A what?

>>60209815
>the russians are a resourceful bunch

..
correction

The russians are TROLLS
https://nyaarchive.moe/?view/922993

which series to search for.. ????? or ?????

>>60208847
Rtorrent, it runs great on my toaster of a router

>>60209530
>hosted in Russian "Prisma Illya is CP" Federation
RIP in 3... 2... 1...

>>60209509
>>60209734
Daiz and friends

>>60209822
Are you fucking retarded? Do you need an assistant to breathe?

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DONE SENDING AN EMAIL TO VEESP ABUSE EMAIL
See ya

>pantsu are down

>>60209880
The Russians must be taking down the site and tracking the bitcoin transactions right now!

>>60209703
Did you just take Pantsu down? Seems like a waste to take it down.

>>60209887
Shocking.

>>60209887

nyaa.pantsu.cat is fine
sukebi appears to be down.

looks like >>60209880 is actually being a complete faggot

>>60209887
So what happens now? Do we just use the russian backups?

>>60209887
>>60209900
I think the server is struggling to keep up now lmao.

>>60209377
wait, is this a reference to firefly?

>>60209887
>>60209910
Fucking shocking.

>>60209391
>You know, you are still downloading the file, without quality loss.
The internet is not designed for streaming, the ISPs the world over have contention ratios that get blown the fuck up because of it.
Torrents are good for a reason, its not unilateral server to client connection type.

>>60209910
> server is struggling to keep up
> Cloudflare
Unlikely.

>>60209703
You are doing Gods work. Thank you.

>>60209922
>i don't know how cloudflare works

>>60209922
The page generation and such aren't cached at all yet.

Restarted the golang servers.

Go is such a stupid language

I can barely even install the deps >__<

>>60209956
How many do you currently use? or is it scaling?

welp, guess I'll start using that local client then

>>60208912
>YaRSS2
this plugin never worked for me, dunno why

I might make an alternative site in flask, just because it's slightly less pantsu-on-head retarded desu

>>60208658

local client

>>60209968
go get github.com/ewhal/nyaa
all the deps will be downloaded aswell
>>60209970
2 and it seems like sqlite was eating up a lot of memory but it seems like the retard fixed it.

>>60209956
You might want to consider security features for future development.

>>60209984
so... "go run main" or something?

>>60209984
>Retard lmao
Restart*
>>60209985
Yeah migrating away from sqlite for the server will help with performance as well.
>>60209991
all you have to do is download the db rename it to nyaa.db and put it in the folder with the code
then run "go build"
then just launch nyaa

>>60210009
ah!
I missed the go build step

Could use that in the readme desu

>>60209984
why are you using a retard for fixing things, this can not end well, i mean zeds gonna be pissed.

>>60209918
>Torrents are good for a reason, its not unilateral server to client connection type.
True, true, but have you looked into streaming via torrents? You only need some seeder (that's nothing new). I guess not everyone would be streaming, so there is always someone who has the rarest parts (e.g. the uploader). Also, if someone has finished the stream, he is still seeding it back.

>>60209815
But it's not gonna last. Situation in russian web is dire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Service_for_Supervision_in_the_Sphere_of_Telecom,_Information_Technologies_and_Mass_Communications
There is not only war on piracy, but also blocking of many sites because of "muh children, we need to think about children" and "muh morality, porn is immoral!". And this blacklist thing is also stupid and blunt - lot of cloudflare ip's are blocked, guess why.
As for russian hosted sites - its even easier for them to take down.
Many fear this system soon will evolve into some kind of "great firewall of china" or even nation-wide intranet.

>>60210029
typo'd

>>60210039
It tickled my funny bone

>>60210032


So the same as the UK and anywhere else... and thanks to Obama handing ICANN over to the UN there will soon be fragmentation of the DNS system as people who care about freedom set up a parallel system in the US where it's difficult as hell to seize domains.

>>60210052
THANKS OBAMA

>>60209887
that's pretty hot

>>60210065
>THANKS OBAMA

The republicans had both houses when this happened and chose not to intervene.

This is a globalist initiative.

Until anti-globalism reaches a critical mass in the halls of power any pushback will have to be through avoidance of the systems the globalists corrupt, sun-tsu style.

desu both pantsu and nyaarachive.moe are doing a great job, if either goes does we will have the other, and both can and will improve later on too.


too bad both can be taken down without an issue tho =\

>>60208847
transmission-daemon

>>60210129
>desu
>=\
Fuck off.

>>60210141
sorry desu =\ senpai mein famalam

>>60210129
It would better if nyaaarchive.moe was open-source though.

>>60210152
yeah, but im sure pantsu will get the previews and all the stuff down, given a bit of time

he just needs to replace his blood with coffee

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>>60210052
> So the same as the UK
Well, even more stupid. Piracy pushed not so hard as in eu, but other things - over the top.
Cause russia has some kind of "superpower ambitions", so they are also blocking every foreighn site, that stores users personal data. Except for ones that moved its servers to russia and gave instruments to spy on users to federal security service.
Not many choose to do that, so right now lots of messengers are going down.
And i did not even mention monopolisation of russian web by mail.ru group, company of this lovely man(friend of putin of course).

>>60210152
>better
It's useless without being open source, unless we're dumb enough to let this same thing happen again in a couple years.

>>60210150
It's funny how every single one of you retards that get called out respond with even more shitposting, as if it's supposed to accomplish something. Enjoy your ban.

>>60210178
Said the shitposter

>>60209137
t. Kuchjkirukia cuck.

So did vacation anon ever post his backup?
Pretty sure it's been more than 2 hours now.

>>60209887
As they should be.

>>60208847
net-p2p/transmission

>>60210204
the russians bought him out

>>60210129
Some Brazilian anon made has made full nyaa replacement.
Doesn't have any dbs though.
The sub cartels want to make their own as well.

Just deployed a new version.

>>60210204
were down to what, 1 week of lost files?

thats pretty fucking good desu

>>60210177
You're fucking dumb if you think open source matters in this case.

>>60209509
>>60209598
>2017-05-01
Someone better scrape this shit before it gets taken down.

>>60210257
but how?

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>>60210255
Whatever you say anon

>>60210257
Look in backups.
I'm using the same db dump just don't have the metadata displayed yet.

WTF rtorrent can't save different stuff to different folders?

is this 2002?

So i just got two HDDs working that i thought were dead (the SATA cable was dead)

what do, ones 2tb the other is 4tb

>>60209598
>>60209509
Still no new VNs.

>>60210244
>Some Brazilian anon made has made full nyaa replacement.
Link?

>>60210288
>>60210319
WTF I HATE INTEL NOW

>>60210299
https://github.com/l3oncoder/nyaa
Don't know if it works at all though.

so nyanner (local java sqlite browser)
does provide magnet but no trackers.

is pantsu just adding generic announces to them?
or is there a logic to it

>>60210336
Yes.

>>60210336
generic announcers.

>>60210252
For nyan... isn't Sukebei still months behind ? .-.
Well either way it's still quite the feat

>>60210252
>>60210278
Wait, isn't pantsu db dump 1 month old? Doesn't nyaachive have a more recent dump if it's 05-01?

>>60210397
It would seem that way wouldn't it? Well at least for the nyan side.

>>60210397
I know we're using the same db cause I uploaded his one to my server lmao.

>>60210410
Doing god's work.

>>60210288
You can from rutorrent, I think it might be harder from the cli

>>60210410
>>60210420

>>60210410
Is there a reason why you can't write like a non-retard?

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>>60210410
You are a saint anon, if you keep that trip i'll even take time to compliment your taste and waifu and back you up any time you want to bully Lelouch.

>>60210298
They're not that hard to find, though.

>>60210426
>rutorrent
why do I need to install a whole webserver

fucking shit program

>>60210440
Let's see your code anon.

>>60210460
>Encouraging tripfagging
anon...
Thanks anyway.

>>60210466
Not my fault if the alternatives shit themselves with a large number of files

>>60210244
/vr/ dropping in to thank you anon. Please continue to ignore the faggot cartels. Feels good to be rid of their presence.

>>60210487
Useful tripfags are tolerated, like HSL, Hox, etc.

The fish earned his by out-autisming everyone in the universe.

>>60208813
How much would it cost to host this on Tor?

>>60210294
download all the anime (and other pirated content) while you can

>>60210541
As much as you're willing to spend.

>>60210545
I dont know what to DL, if im DLing shit it has to be 1080p BD quality

>>60209594
IPFS makes this false
IPFS addresses point to the content, rather than a server, so anyone who mirrors it, can provide the content, even if the original creator/server goes down

isohunt.to had a subdomain nyaa.isohunt.to if I remember correctly, it was a mirrored nyaa similar to what katproxy was to kickass back in those times, strangely today I cannot access isohunt.to to confirm, it might be related to nyaa's shutdown.

>>60210598
from what i remember isohunt died long ago

>>60210617
the official site yes last year the owner made a deal with some lawyers, but it was replaced a week later by a mirror that also hosted a tpb mirro subdomain (thepiratebay.isohunt.to), it's like it never actually closed.

>>60210583
Obviously the nyaa BT magnets themselves kinda are the same. They also still work.

But IPFS might be good, are you working on that?

(I wonder if we'll need to segment that network anyhow, feels like something like IPFS is susceptible to "poisoning" / DoS of sorts - not the content, but the network.)

>>60210276

>>60210655
>Obviously the nyaa BT magnets themselves kinda are the same. They also still work.
yes, they work in basically the same way, the btih is a content address, just like ipfs addresses

>>60208874
https://github.com/jfurrow/flood

450GB of hentai: https://volafile.org/r/bkwwhj08

>>60210655
>are you working on that?
i'm not a programmer or web developer, but i am willing to pin (mirror) things i consider important on it

i believe 'conventional' mirrors like in this thread are obsolete, they're no more resilient to being taken down than the original, and there's no way for someone else to help in hosting them

>>60209509
404

>>60210774
>there's no way for someone else to help in hosting them
Check out tribler

>>60210769
Neat.

>>60210816
looks interesting, though not really comparable
maybe as an alternative to tracker websites in general, but not mirroring a specific one

remember torrage and similar cache sites for .torrent files? if you have an hash and need the .torrent, try checking if it was cached on one of the many torrent cache websites like these.

>>60210774
What sort of stuff do you have pinned?
If I had the bandwidth and memory, I would try hosting a whole archive through IPFS.

>>60210890
you can recover a .torrent from a btih/magnet using DHT, most torrent clients already do this

>>60210774
> i am willing to pin (mirror) things i consider important on it
Sounds like a good start.

Figures we'll find out how well it actually works.

>>60210905
oh nice, I never tried so I had no idea.

>>60210866
It's not a website, but it's distributed and it includes search, you can create a channel and autoupdate it from RSS.

Anybody subscribed to the channel or searching for that content automatically helps sharing the torrents

>>60210932
i'm not saying it's a website, quite the opposite
>you can create a channel
this part could be relevant

while i was thinking about mirroring websites in general, not just torrent sites, this might be useful in this particular case

>>60210981
>while i was thinking about mirroring websites in general, not just torrent sites, this might be useful in this particular case
Feels like a terrible match for mirroring websites to me.

>>60210558
>it has to be 1080p BD quality
Exceptions should apply to post-digital pre-HD era anime.

>>60211012
it's clearly not made to be
it's just a decentralized alternative to torrent sites
ipfs is more general

torrents' database aside, is it possible to decentralize the tracker itself?
http://tracker.example:1337/announce

maybe through tor? it shouldn't cause issues to the tor network since the tracker's traffic is minimal, it's just the peer/seed requests.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/magrent/

Magrent converts magnet links and torrent hashes to torrent files. It uses torrent storage services like Torrage.com for downloading torrent files.

>>60211058
I needed something like this, nice.

>Torrage.com
It's .info now, they shut it down a while back.

>>60211051
Trackers are obsolete.
Use DHT.

>>60211040
Well yeah, if its old but good obviously

>>60211042
>>60210932
> it's clearly not made to be
Agreed.

>>60211058
But why? Every torrent client worth using can directly use magnets...

>>60211118
>But why? Every torrent client worth using can directly use magnets...

trackers

Can we at least build tracker to replace http://open.nyaatorrents.info:6544/announce by asking users to change their hosts-file?

>>60211125
?

>>60211086
It can't hurt to have a decentralized tracker if there is a way to make one, DHT doesn't work by itself anyway, it still needs some peers to connect with, unless you force your client to scrape all IPs from 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255 you'll be stuck on yourself without a starting point.

>>60211086
yea, DHT makes everything besides finding magnets decentralized
all that remains is a decentralized way of hosting sites that you can find magnets on (like nyaa)
zeronet and ipfs are ones i've looked at that can provide this

basically, what i'm saying is, instead of the traditional domain "nyaa.eu", backed by a specific server, which is a single point of failure, we move to using sites hosted by its peers, much like how torrents themselves are hosted

>>60211125
But you are already getting all peers from DHT - certainly more than you'd get from most individual trackers.

Anyone got a screen shot of the email that confirms Nyaa is dead?

Also can someone buy the Nyaa domain name when the register deletes it in june?

>>60211153
Can you use trackers and DHT at the same time or is it either?

>>60211141
>decentralized tracker
We have one, it's called DHT, moron.

>>60211141
This is not an actual problem since bascially any random torrent or a source list already shipped with the torrent client can bootstrap DHT no problem.

And even if you scraped IPs that way, the first client you meet could bootstrap you with the network.

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>>60211155
It's not an email though. Just a statement from IRC.

>>60211141
>What are bootstrap DHT nodes
And anyway, once your torrent client has connected at least once to the DHT, it saves a list of peers to the disk, and attempts to connect to them the next time, without the need for a bootstrap DHT node.
Go read up on how the DHT actually works.

>>60211151
I think you're confusing trackers with indexing sites. They're not the same thing.
I agree that indexers do need to be distributed.

>>60211155
>buy the Nyaa domain
it would cost an organ, who knows if the owner decides to delete it though? he could simply leave it unused or sell it to the RIAA & co, who will put a nice ad:
>"Look at this legal alternative! check it here: [blocked in your country]"

>>60211160
>Can you use trackers and DHT at the same time or is it either?
Both unless the torrent set the private flag (which is shit private trackers unofficially added into the protocol to keep "their" torrent users from being peered with external people).

But DHT will already have most peers of the non-private world.

>>60211160
you can use either, most clients already use either by default
DHT isn't new, trackers are just a convinience
DHT can be slow to start, as you need to find peers yourself, trackers... track peers, so you can ask them for a peer list, this is in fact all they do

>>60211151
>basically, what i'm saying is, instead of the traditional domain "nyaa.eu", backed by a specific server, which is a single point of failure, we move to using sites hosted by its peers, much like how torrents themselves are hosted

That is a good start point, but not exposing the administrators and moderators identities and locations is still a problem, creating 10 minute mail all the time and using VPN for daily managing a website for years is very unpractical. Ultimatley that is what have killed all piracy websites so far and Nyaa,

>>60211193
>I think you're confusing trackers with indexing sites. They're not the same thing.
that's what i'm talking about, i confess i did not know a better/proper name for the sites

>>60211204
>>60211208
Would the optimal DHT setting for something like a new Nyaa be like the JP Dark shit where you store the 40gb (would obviously be a smaller size) table locally?

>implying everyone leaves DHT on

Are decentralized indexing sites the last step to making bittorrent completely 100% safe from governments?

>>60211239
why would you turn it off?

>>60211225
>be like the JP Dark shit where you store the 40gb
Few people wants to store random shit.

>>60211244
There is Tribler which stores extra metadata to do keyword searches for torrents but that only works between with other Tribler clients

>>60211255
muh privacy

>>60211244
safe from being taken down, yes
safe from not getting letters? not on its own, you will still need to do it all over an anonymizing network like i2p for that
decentralization and anonymity are separate issues

>>60211244
>last step

That's just the first step, as the actual file transmission is still on the torrent protocol, and everyone can see what you are downloading.

>>60211266
How big could the entire table be for something like Nyaa? There is no way it's more than like 2gb.

>>60211280
>anonymizing network
doesn't tribler already do that?

>>60209776
There's shit that I've been seeding for 7 years
I found how incredible it was to do this a few days ago when I downloaded a 7 year old torrent from Nyaa
Godspeed to all the anons who keep seeding on public trackers
>inb4 cuck
Some of the stuff I seed is nowhere to be found on PT's, if it's something actually obscure retention will be shit regardless of where it is uploaded

>>60211225
There is not an "optimal" DHT for every aspect you might want to optimize.

But you can see what actual DHT networks chose to do here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table#Overlay_network

> for something like a new Nyaa be like the JP Dark shit where you store the 40gb (would obviously be a smaller size) table locally?
The "routing table" of DHT does not need to be anywhere as big.

How to deal with file sharing *content* hosting is another question. Do you do bittorrent and only host the files you yourself used / wanted?

Or do you do freenet/ipfs/gnunet/dark... and maybe also cache files completely unrelated to your own needs for others, to keep content online 24/7 and as part of obscuring your own usage / making a mixnet that does it more viable?

Basically, I figure we can only try shit out and see what sticks. Maybe share some on IPFS and tribler apart from good old torrent?

>>60211199
>who knows if the owner decides to delete it though?

That's what I'm wondering though. If the owner deletes it doesn't he no longer have a say in selling it? Would that make the domain cheaper to buy?

I don't get why Nyaa just deleted fucking everything instead of transferring ownership or selling the site to someone else.

>>60211292
is there a reason to go out of your way to store the entire DHT?
just hosting what you're seeding should be enough
what use does a DHT entry serve if nobody is seeding it?

>>60211204
>Both unless the torrent set the private flag (which is shit private trackers unofficially added into the protocol to keep "their" torrent users from being peered with external people).
Fucking private tracker cucks. Ruining the fucking protocol and torrenting for everyone.

>>60211294
yes, it does both, i'm just say they are separate
for example, ipfs and bittorrent (trackerless) is decentralized, but do nothing for anonymity

>>60211292
Torrent metadata itself would be even smaller. Comments and torrent descripts posted by uploader would be larger though

>>60211310
I downloaded long dead torrents before when some lost seeder becomes online after a blue moon for a day or two

>>60211307
>I don't get why Nyaa just deleted fucking everything instead of transferring ownership or selling the site to someone else.
He watched too many leethaxor shows and he's probably off the grid taking a shit in a forest by now after burning down his house.

>>60211345
I've left shit on 0.00% for weeks before some random Russian starts seeding while I'm asleep.

>>60211307
>I don't get why Nyaa just deleted fucking everything instead of transferring ownership or selling the site to someone else.
Because if someone kept running the site with his database and his code and got caught, they could still view Nyaa as a collaborator in the project.

>>60209975
I've used it for a long time on multiple windows boxes, and I've seen it be super glitchy. I'm guessing what you mean is that you enabled it in the plugins selection, but it never appeared in the menu.

From what I can remember, I had to clear the plugin cache and do other shit for it to finally be recognized. Kind of shitty, honestly.

>>60211345
>I downloaded long dead torrents before when some lost seeder becomes online after a blue moon for a day or two
i don't see how the existence of a DHT entry would be useful here
an entry left in an indexer for you to use, sure, once the seeder comes online, you should then be able to find them as they advertise that hash to the DHT again

>>60211345
>becomes online after a blue moon for a day or two
Reminds me when I was trying to download Druaga 720p TV rip, based russian guy connected for a few hours every other day with 5-10 kb/s up speed, took me like 2 months to finish it.
Being under FUNi domain, it was impossible to find.

>>60211399
I was downloading some album like this, but they guy never came back after uploading like 80% of the torrent

>>60211389
>an entry left in an indexer for you
Scrape DHT regularly, put it in a database and you have an indexer

>>60211410
pretty much
in fact, there are a few sites that do exactly that

>>60211399
That's pretty funny, mine >>60211363 was some giant robo from the early 2000's that I don't even remember. Based Russians.

>>60211313
I thought that too, but this is already a done deal inside the bittorrent ecosystem. Nobody will change it now.

I guess you could "fix" the situation by popularizing an "auto export same content as different, public torrent" tool and just... publish fucking everything as "new" torrents.

It might just work. OTOH the private trackers might also go full police state and place trace files & individualized steganographic markers in "their" torrents to find the users leaking data. Who knows.

Alas, maybe it's not even a fight worth fighting when you could be making public ipfs / tribler / yacy or whatever nicer.

>>60211410
How do you scrape the DHT? In fact how does finding peers in the DHT even work?

>>60211443
>how does finding peers in the DHT even work?
magic

>>60211443
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvQrNoCwxgE

>>60211443
there are multiple dht scrapper projects like this
https://github.com/AlphaReign/scraper

>>60211443
http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0005.html

TL;DR: Each peer becomes a tracker

>>60211313
serves you public tracker retards right for refusing to seed

So we have two options now? Or more?

pantsu and https://nyaarchive.moe/?

is https://nyaarchive.moe/ more or less just as good? Trusted?

>>60211485
Why are you even in this thread? You don't give a shit about Nyaa.
Or don't tell me that you secretly actually use Nyaa because you know that your little secret club is shit.

>>60211485
>take shit from public trackers
>refuse to share
>hurrr serves you right for sharing

>>60211496
> Trusted?
Do not enable JS if you don't trust them. Magnets should be fine, you can see the content anyway.

>>60211485
heh, if private trackers didn't purge dead torrents it would be graveyard 0 seeds/0 peers.

Which country should be the next host of the new Nyaa? We know the EU is cucked.

Can't you just host it in china but ban all the chinese from using it?

is pantsu legit dead or just down?

>>60211542
>routing from China
It will be slow.

>>60211533
russia

>>60211548

sukebei is working so i think it's just down

>>60211485
> for refusing to seed
And just when did that happen? Nyaa was fucking successful in distributing Chinese cartoons.

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How about we "centralize" the main site on onion and just make mirrors instructing people how to access tor for more features like comments, staff suport and uploading torrents? The mirrors without staff interaction can be hosted on sweeden again, and if after 3~4 years they are taken down, most people will know how to access the last updated onion link anyway and will check the new domain name.

This solves problems of staff eventually loging with unsafe IP's on the mirror site since they will spend most of the time accessing the onion site, and at the same time solve the issue with low speed and too much secret club from only hosting on onion.

Yes, the new .se domain will still need to be registered on someone name and I hope that person is not as retarded as Nyaa was and use proper proxies and a proper fake identity, mail and bank account for registering it. Someone from Venezuela who hates america can be his middleman.

Can we just host it in the cloud?

>>60211638
What if it floats over US or EU jurisdiction?

>>60208813
>Work in progress with 1 month old db for nyaa and 8-15 for sukebei
So I'm guessing it went nowhere with the conference guy who had dolphin porn last night then?

Just use 9anime/kissanime like a normal human being

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>>60208847
i can't personally say how accurate this is but based on responses i got from anons it's pretty accurate

>>60211649
> floats over
Unexpected grand kek.

>>60211638
Yes and no. It's where most internet technology is going and torrent is exhibiting a lot of "cloud" features.

But if you mean Amazon S3 or Azure, what would that help?

>>60211661
>no mention of 2.2.1 utorrent
Chart discarded.

>>60208813
Why didn't the owner of nyaa upload his db regularly? Piratebay and all proper sites do that already.

Also, I think that it would be a good idea to keep the new site accessible only over I2P or tor.

>>60211659
Don't know what 9anime is but kissanime does not allow proxies and I could not even use it before that.

>>60211692
It was his site and he didn't care about other people.

>>60211661
>tixati logo
I sure am glad that this wasn't posted on /v/

>>60211649
It will be shot down for violating the NAP.

>>60211705
We should stop supporting sites that do not care about the future of humanity.

>>60211661
Vuze is not at all bad.

>>60211649
Underrated as fuck.

>>60211692
>Why didn't the owner of nyaa upload his db regularly?
To where and how would it have helped?

>>60211722
> the future of humanity
> muuh Chinese cartoons!
:-)

>>60211754
Chinese cartoons are the future of humanity.

>>60211692
>Piratebay and all proper sites
Only TPB does that actually. For some reason, all the torrent site owners tend to be jealous of their databases and would rather let petabytes of content go lost forever than release regular backups to the public.

>>60211767
You don't determine the future unless you have kids or do another educational activity.

>>60211623
IMO we just need to be better about keeping backups, e.g.

1) We create a central (but private) community whose purpose is keeping up-to-date databases of torrents.
2) We distribute copies of that database to people who want to run mirror sites.
3) Each mirror site operates as a separate organization/entity, with each site allowing updates to their own databases.
4) We agree to provide up-to-date copies of our global database to each mirror site, provided the mirror site lets us pull updates into our global database.
5) If one of the mirror sites gains too much leverage, we scrape them manually (there can only one or two of them, so the burden isn't high).

That way
1) If someone takes out mirror sites, the central community can wait until the heat dies down and make more.
2) If someone finds about and targets the central community, we'll dissolve it and create more but smaller central communities, which will eventually reduce in number to a few at most.

>>60211749
>nyaa goes down
>100 new nyaa clones are made within 24h based on the most recent database dump

>>60211638
But who's cloud? Cloud is in the end a bunch of servers somewhere belonging to someone.

Is anyone actually scrapping the russian site?

I don't want to rape it if someone else is already doing it.

>>60211781
Unlike other sites, TPB likes to tout it's resilience. Dumping your database just gives anyone with enough dedication an opportunity to rebuild if the site does get taken down, reinforcing its claim to resilience.

>>60211749
Online, on his site as a torrent probably.
It would have helped as people would not need to scrap the site, they would simply need to download that torrent and anyone could have done that.
That would have removed the single point of failure that centralised sites suffer from.

>>60211754
Culture has always been considered an important part of humanity.

>>60211781
By ``all proper sites'' I did not mean specifically torrent sites. I also meant stuff like https://veekun.com/dex/downloads

>>60211754
Might actually be as you say at face value, without the irony. At least part of it.

We do live for entertainment, knowledge, buying / supporting cool shit, going to places, eating good food and stuff like that, no?

>>60211807
That's a good thing.

>>60208813
/a/non here, thanks nerds.

>>60211661
Tixati is good though. It worked better than QStalledtorrent and had better features/usability than Deluge and Transmission the last time I used them. Just disable channels if you don't use them.

>>60211836
There is a really large overlap in boards anyway, i'm both /g/ and /a/.

>>60211833
I think that's what he meant.

Hey Pantsu Anon, your FAQ page says "Pantsu Nyaa" instead of "Nyaa Pantsu".

Anon in last thread said some anime get natively produced nowadays at 1080p, can someone provide some example?

New >>60211867

>>60211807
Maybe possible successor sites will do it if we keep nagging them?

>>60211830
>Online, on his site as a torrent probably.
As... a hourly / daily torrent, or torrents of difference objects? Hrm.

Yea, that would kinda be nice, even if torrent isn't the ideal software in some ways it's at home on the platform, so I guess it might work.

>>60211623
>>60211806
Check out NNTPChan and the way it works. We could use the NNTP protocol to provide a true distributed torrent site that anyone can create nodes for on I2P, tor or web.
Someone could even create private torrent sites that only leeches from another NNTP server, clears things that are considered inappropriate and keeps its own db.

>2) We distribute copies of that database to people who want to run mirror sites.
It should be to everyone.

>>60210551
Pantsu, Won't you get in trouble for hosting this?
>nyaa.pantsu.cat and sukebei.pantsu.cat do not host any files.
Doesn't help much.

>>60211831
>>60211830
I don't know guys, do you really want to save this trash, for example? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJZc7vnCUmc
Cult classics will be resurrected anyway.

>>60211873
Second season of nyaruko and railgun if i'm correct. It's a small % though, as a rule of thumb always use 720p.

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The amount of files we lost:
8548 files on Nyaa
and 156788 files on Sukebei

F

>>60211883
>As... a hourly / daily torrent, or torrents of difference objects? Hrm.
Monthly probably.

I wish that gelbooru did the same

>>60211883
>Maybe possible successor sites will do it if we keep nagging them?
I wish.

>>60211692
Cause he wanted to be able to purge it all for when a day like this came, and it did. Also >>60211705

>>60211920
>Cause he wanted to be able to purge it all for when a day like this came, and it did
Why?
Also, people were scraping the site anyway so I do not get the point, other than making their life difficult.

>>60211902
what do you mean "lost"? there were many more than that I believe, or do you mean lost the ones that weren't archived in time before the site went down?

>>60211893
>I don't know guys, do you really want to save this trash, for example?
Yes...

The way to deal with "the internetz" we want is surely to have it indexed and content stashed somewhere (by the people who want to stash it).

That doesn't mean you need to watch or download it in the end, or that great efforts need to be taken to keep the content "alive". Only the Index and the content distribution "method" must live and be usable, no?

>>60211932
>do you mean lost the ones that weren't archived in time before the site went down?

Exactly that.

>>60211914
Well - if not, I guess we could theoretically throw crawl-dumps of websites created with heritrix, nutch, scrapy or whatever on each other somehow.

[But they'd be more interesting to create and maintain if there was an use beyond emergency recovery for them, can't see many participating in even just the sharing part -which is easy enough for everyone- if it's ONLY about preservation.]

>>60211977
we can recover those if we have the hash, which torrent is the last archived? I think I got all hashes up to last few days of april, but I need to know where to start.

New thread here: >>60211867

>>60211896
Thanks.

>>60211767
>>60211754


Huurr durr I am a normal fag that got lost on 4chan and can't take a joke.

>>60211930
>other than making their life difficult.
That is the point. If you haven't noticed yet, he doesn't give a damn about anyone. People have previously asked him to make backups of the database incase the site goes down before and he refused them.