/pcbg/ - PC Building General

How's this build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gfGCVY

Willing to pay more. Looking at $2500-$3000 as long as that includes a great Gsync IPS monitor since I'll be staring at it for like 14 hours a day

>>60128637
>>60128668
>How's this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gfGCVY
Looks good, but the nvme ssd looks overkill. Do you really need the additional speed it provides over a regular SSD? NVMe ssd are more for content creators that want the highest speed possible access to their medias, for gamers there is really 0 difference, and a regular SSD cost much less
Also, for 165hz, a 7700k is the only CPU that would be able to hit this framerate, so consider getting it instead of a Ryzen. But if you're fine with 120 ~ 140ish FPS, then no need to.

Why /pcbg/ shilling Ryzen so hard? In most tests I saw so far both 7700 non-K and 7600K were better than Ryzen 1600.

>>60128649
>amd-ryzen-pc.jpg
>socket 1150

wait a minute

>>60128725
Different cpu offer different performances, if a CPU has 3% more fps but is at 80+% usage while doing so while the other is at 55 ~ 60%, the second is more worth
It really depends on what you need and want, though. So sometimes Ryzen is better suited, sometimes intel is better suited.

>>60128580
>>60128580
>>60128580

THIS IS THE REAL THREAD

Whether you're a Ryzen shill or not, go onto the real thread-- you're not allowed to make duplicate generals. Stop whining.

>>60128705
Not all M.2 are NVME.

That Crucial is basically just like any other 2.5" SATA SSD except that it has an M.2 connector so you don't need to fuck around with mounting/cables in your case.

>>60128705
What mobo should i get with the 7700k?

>>60128725
>In most tests I saw so far both 7700 non-K and 7600K were better than Ryzen 1600.
wow 5 more fps in exchange for having to close everything but your game

>>60128757
Oh, right

>>60128758
Something like an Asus PRIME Z270-A ATX that is good for oc (7700k is clocked very high) and that also has an M.2 slot for your ssd
Also, you're gonna need a good cooler because the performance comes at a temperature price. Something like a $60 Noctua NH-U12S or better will do good.

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How's my 10GBASE-T and 802.11bz-capable NAS looking?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d8kMd6
>6x 1TB in RAID-Z1 for booting VMs and local machines off the network
>1TB M.2 as both L2ARC and iSCSI game drive
>2 5TB X300 as two separate back-ups for the entire SSD array
>4x 8TB NAS drives in RAID-Z1 for a 24TB pool to store large files and back up of all VMs and local machines (no L2ARC for this array)
The motherboard I'm waiting for is a 4-core or 8-core Denverton SoC that will have up to 4 10GB NICs in the SoC (802.11bz support for at least two of those NICs) and M.2 support. The HBA adapter is all I really need, since ZFS doesn't play that well with hardware RAID.

>>60128725
Because Ryzen has much better price/performance overall, the the scenarios where the Intel chips beat Ryzen are usually within a tight enough margin that no one would notice in real world usage (like going from 60 to 65fps, or 180 to 240 fps), whereas the scenarios where Ryzen beats Intel is much more significant.

Not to mention that the early reputation for Ryzen with day1 benchmarks was substantially overturned with updates that followed and performance between R5/R7 and i5/i7 is extremely competitive.

No one should realistically argue that buying an i5 or i7 is going to result in a slow or shitty system, but Ryzen is simply a better bargain in most situations. This is strongly influenced by the fact that the R5 1600 in particular is amazing value - there's very little recommendation for the other Ryzen chips.

hey anons should I buy this
http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-AB350-Gaming-3-rev-10#kf

>>60128809
Ahhh, I'll need to switch everything over to ATX then. I'll update my build and post it again.

>>60128826
Gaming 3 is pretty good if it meets you needs.

>>60128677

>>60128649
thoughts?
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Processor
GPU: MSI Radeon RX 480 Gaming X 8GB
Motherboard: MSI X370 Xpower Gaming Titanium Motherboard
Case: Thermaltake View 31 Tempered Glass
Fans: Thermaltake Riing Plus 120mm LED RGB 16.8M Radiator Fans
CPU Waterblock: Thermaltake Pacific W4 RGB
Coolant: Thermaltake C1000 Opaque Red
Liquid Cooling: Thermaltake D5 Pump with Silencer Kit
Radiator: Thermaltake Pacific RL360 Radiator
RAM: HyperX DDR4 Memory
SSD: HyperX 240GB 2.5" SSD

>>60128900
also whats a good monitor for around 200 that'll work well with this?

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>>60128900
NIGGA CALM DOWN WITH THE R7 1800X
Like, jesus dude, you have a fucking RX 480.
x370? Why? Liquid cooling? We all know Ryzen overclocks like shit.

R7 1700 or R5 1600 with B350 is best option.
Don't bother using liquid cooling for Ryzen, its overclocking is a meme.

>>60128823
>there's very little recommendation for the other Ryzen chips.
So, 1700x purely for gaming in 1080p over 7700k is a bad idea?
Also, I am kind of afraid that intel's new cpus might offer the performance of 7700k with more cores. Is it realistic?

>>60128948
Even non-K 7700 better than top Ryzen for gaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLj0kDHl-_I

>>60128753
Go away shlomo

>tfw you played the wait game for years now in hopes of cheaper hardware
>ssds are now more expensive
>ram is now more expensive

fuck

>>60128986
>le 3 fps margin meme
see >>60128898

>>60128986
>GAYMEN
no
one
cares
this
is
/g/

How does this build look for 1080pfor a 144hz monitor?

Im undecided on the case

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/W7XnJV

>>60128900
Purpose?
Anyway, that doesn't seem like a really thought of build.
A Ryzen R7 1700 can reach clocks very very close (within 200mhz at worst) to the 1800x, but can do it much cheaper. Other than that, there is no difference between the cpu.
The liquid cooler is kinda overkill, because Ryzen cpus cannot go above 4.1GHz. They can do fine up to 4.1, but then they hit an enormous voltage wall that not even the best water coolers can handle (only LN2 cooling can), so there is very little chance this watercooler is needed. Granted, you could still use it for your next processor upgrade, but a $60 ~ $80 air cooler that doesn't require maintenance and will last longer while still cooling the cpu very very well seems like a wiser choice to me.

That motherboard also is overkill. Xfire and SLI support, two protected PCIex16 for dual GPU, 5x 3.1 rear + 6x front, etc etc. Unless you are actually interested in the features it provides, there is no reason not to pick at least a $160 one.

With the money saved on both, you could get a GTX 1070 & 1440p / 144hz screen

>So, 1700x purely for gaming in 1080p over 7700k is a bad idea?
It's not necessarily bad, but the 7700k wins in gaming. R7 1700 is an 8 core cpu so it's more for people that do a lot of multitasking, that do video encoding, streaming, recording, etc etc. For straight up gaming and nothing and nothing else at all, the 7700k is a much better choice.

>Also, I am kind of afraid that intel's new cpus might offer the performance of 7700k with more cores. Is it realistic?
No, it would heat way too much and use way too much power. The 7700k already heats an enormous amount, they can't do anything with 6 cores or more clocked like it.

>>60128986
This is the lowest clocked R7 (3.0 to 3.7GHz) and yet it's so close, that's pretty damn good.

>>60129037
It's overclocked to 3.9GHz in the video.

Repostan: >>60128285
Any big difference between a 240 and a 280? My case supports 280, but seems the 240s are a hell of a lot cheaper.

>>60129031
>i7

yea you fucked up

>>60129037
>>60128932
whats a good budget monitor for the pc?

>>60128788
That worked, thank you.

>>60129031
You'd have to drop a few settings to reach 144hz on an Rx 580

>>60129125
My man, picking the most overkill parts possible and then asking advices for a budget monitor... you're quite strange
Considering the amd card, the cheapest 1080p freesync one you can get is like $125, unless you think that's too high or something there's non freesync ones for $110, that is on pcpartpicker. What's your country?

>>60129031
get a Kaby i5 and a bigger cooler or a gtx 1070 instead. i7 for gaming only is a waste of money if you haven't maxed out your GPU budget.

if you had to choose, which would you upgrade first - 4gb ram or 430W psu? both of which are on the minimum for my PC build? just curious, it was my first build. My cpu is amd fx8350 and my GPU is pny gtx 750. stock fans that came with my case and cpu

>>60129178
>get a Kaby i5
He wants 144 fps, not 110

>>60129186
I'd upgrade the ram first because psu is somewhat fine, but really if you're gonna spend money on pc parts it'd be much worth to avoid spending it on parts that aren't gonna be much useful pretty soon. DDR3 is not used anymore in any new cpu and motherboard release, so you'd end up using money for something that you wouldn't even be able to use in your future build (which you are oging to need considering yours is quite obsolete)

>>60128948
Strictly for gaming, with current hardware and current software there is no reason to buy anything more expensive than a R5 1600, as the difference from stepping up to any of the higher chips will not result in any subjective improvement in gameplay.

As a general rule of thumb, a difference less than around 25% between setups will not be noticeable other than placebo. Meaning if you're comparing a system that costs $600 and gets 60fps to a system that costs $1200 and gets 66fps (10% improvement), you won't even notice the difference. Shills and people with post-purchase rationalization love benchmarks because they can quantify differences which are otherwise imperceptible.

In my view buying the top-end (in this case, R7 or i7) has never been a good economical decision in the last 20 years. The reason is that pricing of top-end products is usually around 100% more expensive than mid-range, while offering only marginal improvements in performance. This means that for equal cost, you could afford to replace a mid-range system twice as often as a top-end system. You can keep a $600 mid-range system for 3 years at $200/yr, or a top-end system for $1200 for 6 years at $200/yr. The way hardware advances, a mid-range build every 3 years will consistently provide better performance than a top-end build every 6 years.

The only reason to buy top-end is if your specific use case immediately requires the performance that only the top-end can provide.

If you're buying for the future, a mid-range build can be reasonably expected to last a couple years because software design will be more stable during that time. Projecting further than that become much harder, which makes a top-end more of a gamble as significant changes in software and hardware can occur over the life of such a PC.

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>>60129178
>i5
>babby lake
SHILL DETECTED

>>60129228
>In my view buying the top-end (in this case, R7 or i7) has never been a good economical decision in the last 20 years. The reason is that pricing of top-end products is usually around 100% more expensive than mid-range, while offering only marginal improvements in performance.
Meh, the price difference between the R7 1700 and R5 1600x is pretty small, $325 for an 8 cores cpu is pretty great

>>60129226
>Oy vey goyim i5 is bad but you know whats better? a 7700k cuck edition pls buy it

>>>/gaschambers/

>>60129259
If you're in to spend money for a 144 fps build it'd be pretty annoying to not be able to reach those 144fps

>>60129245
>>60129226
or Ryzen is fine too. My point was the i7 was not a wise purchase. Better to invest that extra $100 back into the graphics card for a MUCH bigger performance boost. Though that would lock anon out of Freesync, which is a really nice feature. And G-sync is overpriced bollocks.
Kaby is just overclocked skylake. It's like $10 more for another 300-400mhz after overclocking. Buying skylake new doesn't make sense.

>>60129271
>Trust me goyim you need a i7 to get 144 fps in team autism 3

t. 4790k user who is fucking sick of stuttering

I am asking here because I got no response in the sqt.

A glass of water went directly into the fan outlet on the top of my case. I removed all plugs and both case panels, then dried everything for about 40 mins.

I attempted to boot but I only get to the BIOS before it automatically shuts down and restarts.

What do? How fucked am I?

>>60129399
ur dumb

>>60129399
>40 minutes
You fucked up. Overnight nigga. preferably near a heater.

>>60129399
disassemble everything and spend more time drying it, using an hair dryer or something.
I'm fairly sure hard drives should be fine, maybe cpu too, but you sound very fucked so don't expect anything to work

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>>60129037

Outside of horrifically bad chips a 1700 at 3.9 sips voltage.

Where do you think i can find an AM1 APU for under 20$ including the heatsink and free shipping?
Ebay is very limited, Amazon is currently in a "suggested price is high but whatever" kind of thing, and local stuff yeilds no results.

I picked up an ECS Kam1-I mobo for 10$ new from newegg with a few promo codes and shit, its proven reliable in my sisters athlon box, so id like to make my own. Hers is a 5350 and a 750ti, i only have a gt 710 so i couldnt care less if its the weakest AM1 apu on earth but i'd like to get the build together and done

On the list ive got
>The ECS Mobo
>Seasonic 350w PSU
>8gb of Corsair vengance LP ddr3
>EVGA Gt170
>tim, little mounts, a bit of plywood, etc
which means i need
>AM1 APU
>storage
For under 60$ total

I can grab a 160fb hdd used online for 10$ at any time, so its the least important bit here.
Ive only got 20$ in my paypal until my other sales clear but id like to get the processor around the same time i get the mobo so i dont have shit just lying around too long.
Its going to be mounted on a custom wood case, and not a shit one either, i intend to paint everything and make it look really nice.

This is more of just a hobby project to see what i can do with 100$

>>60129428
what cooler?

>>60129255
Sure, comparing the 1600x to 1700 isn't that much of a jump. But no one buys the 1600x because the 1600 is so close in performance and again, much better value.

Ignoring the 1600x, the 1600 to 1700 is still a reasonable upgrade in some cases, adding 50% to the cost for 33% more cores/threads, and for people that are doing highly threaded productivity, the 1700 absolutely becomes the sweet-spot.

However for the average desktop user, R7 just doesn't provide value, and when talking gaming it doesn't provide the benefit to justify that 50% jump. If you exclude gaming, the needs of the average desktop user have barely changed in the last 15+ years, so it has mostly been a matter of keeping up with software/OS bloat which even a 2/4 or 4/4 cpu is more than capable of handling.

>>60129439
so long as it isnt (((intel)))

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>when you're trying to find a AM4 compatible CPU cooler and none of them have it standard

I'm about ready to just get a 1600 and be done with it.

>>60129159
usa bby

>>60129493
just do that mate, you can always find a cooler later on once you got everything set up already.

>>60129427
Anon already plugged it back in and powered it while something still could have been wet. Damage already could have been done.
>>60129439
You have an extremely specific requirement with an extremely niche amount of people who might know anything about it. Sounds like you have to do your own digging. I'd look for old pre-builts that are "parts" or "doesn't boot" but really, I'd say increase your budget to find more available parts or keep looking.

>>60129228
Thanks for explanation, man. I see what you are saying but both i7 and R7 are in my budget and it is not a problem for me to take them, so I want to go with higher model and thus the question is 1700x or 7700k.
There is a lot of negativity about amd in the internet but Ryzen seems like a great cpu, and my choice has become pretty tough...

>>60129159
also im in the 200 to 300 range for a monitor

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>>60129471

Silver arrow. It is in the same sort of performance class as the D15, R1 ultimate and whatnot.

>>60129493
just get a bracket for it, most manufacturers sell one

hey guys im about to buy an am4 mobo for ryzen. is ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX still worth while?

>>60129529
>>60129427
I'll do what he said anyway.
What a shitty way to wake up. Some asshole was ringing my doorbell early in the morning and I stumbled out of bed, knocking the water over. He had the wrong place.

>>60129018
You waited for years to save what, like $40-50? Are you dirt friggin starving poor? Even when I made minimum wage I metaphorically wiped my ass with $40.

Do any of these Ryzen 1600 mobos run ram at 3200?

I've looked at 3 and all of them have have people saying they're stuck significantly lower.

When is rx 560 launching? Any thoughts on if it will finally compete with 1050ti?

>>60129636

>Do any of these Ryzen 1600 mobos run ram at 3200?

What cpu it is is irrelevant. There are only a few boards that support 3200mhz (fun fact: anything over 2133mhz for Intel and 2666mhz for ryzen is technically considered overclocked) and of those boards it depends on what ram you get. This is why Qualified Vendor Lists exist.

That said the may AGESA is supposed to be all about fixing ram compatability.

>>60129636
Hitting 3200 is hard right now, yes. Vary on the kit, motherboard, and even then it's not certain you'll hti the same clocks as other people.

>>60129636
g.skill made a kit of ram 'flare x' marketed to be specifically ryzen compatible. Youtuber Paul's Hardware got it to run at 3200mhz but he used an x370 mobo so your mileage may vary.
For reference :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G80uG3acg44

>>60129670
the 570/470 already does

>>60129678
>for ryzen
for intel too

>>60129678
my ax370 gaming 5 w/1600 runs 32gb (4x8) at 2933. sold as ddr4-3000

>>60129697
>intel
nice joke anon

>>60129697

Nyet comrade.

https://ark.intel.com/products/97129/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_50-GHz

>Memory Types
DDR4-2133/2400, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V

>>60129764
so anything over 2400 is oc then

>>60129775

Depending on channels but yes. Guess what motherfucker, OC isn't covered by your warranty!

Would a 1050 ti be better over a rx 460 for a budget build ?

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>>60129793

Is intel actually better than Ryzen for 144hz 1440p?

>>60129809
Intel is better than ryzen for high (144hz) framerates, but that's for i7 only

>>60129799
get an rx 470/570 and shave off another $10-15 somewhere else. 1050ti is in a very poor price-performance bracket. IMO the only time a 1050ti makes sense is upgrading a pre-built with a dinky power supply.

>>60129799
doesn't matter get a 470 instead

>>60129809
no thats a meme

>>60129803

Joking aside it is something that /g/ often forgets when it comes to the claim that Intel chips support faster ram - they technically don't. XMP exists for Intel to say they work with fast ram but without them having to actually validate it. Same thing for ryzen and anything over 2666mhz.

>>60129832
A 1050ti is 115usd an 470 is 170usd. 10-15usd is not going to cut it.

>>60129834
>>60129832
Here 1050 ti it's 40€ cheaper ( 160 € vs 200 € for a rx 470 )
Would it still be a good choice ?

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https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/9fQJHN

ROAST ME

I'm split between:

Asus X370 Prime Pro (166€)
VS
Asrock X370 Taichi (257€)

I don't really need Wi-fi nor the extra features of the Taichi, but I plan to OC my 1600X as high as possible and I'll be using 3200Mhz RAM.

tl;dr
Is the Taichi really worth 90€ more than the Prime Pro?

Why does the OP recommend against blower style GPUs?

>>60129821
Should I buy the 7700k then? What's the recommended intel mobo? Is Gigabyte still the best?

>>60128649

what is a good mother board for ryzen? (≤110)

>>60129891
For ocing currently even a $100 b350 is fine because current ryzen cpu can't go to clocks high enough where a high end mobo would actually matter
but heh if you want your build to last extremely long and intend to upgrade your cpu in 2 or 3 years the taichi might not be a bad idea

>>60129902
cuz they are hotter & louder than usual 2-3 fan gpus

>>60129888
>>60129878
My mistake. Last time I checked, the 1050ti was about $140-145 usd for the cheapest cards. I'm seeing a rx 460 for $89 usd plus a $20 rebate. If you're extreme budget, I would choose that. I think I need more context though. Do you have a pcpartpicker list (preferably in your region)? Or even just a list of stuff you already have picked out.

>>60129902
hot, loud, usually lower clocks. They make sense in cases with extremely little airflow, that's about it.

If I can't get a hold of an intel CPU more affordable than i3 is there any reason not to go AMD?

>>60129891

Only buy x370 for overkill vrms and the extra I/O the chipset provides.

>>60129959
no, intel is best in lower end right now. Might change with the R3 cpus (4c4t for i3 prices) but no one knows when they will release

>>60129956
I'm budget, think I could spend the extra cash for a 1050 ti if it's faster than the rx 460 ( 100 € for the 460 here, vs 160 € for the 1050 ti .
Don't have pcpartpicker list because I will be using an old spare asrock extreme 3 gen 3 + i5 2500k ( pref oc @ something around 4 GHz ?) & 8 GB RAM. Thanks for the help anon

>>60129891
Why not just buy a r7 1700? Spending an extra shitload of money to overclock a 6-core vs having more reasonable parts and an 8-core sounds much better to me. Overclocking on ryzen provides extremely disappointing results btw.

repost from the last thread.

I was planning on getting a i7 7700k + 1080ti, but the games I want to play don't require anything even close.

I was thinking about downgrading to the i5 7600k + 1060 6GB, and spend the rest on games I plan to play.

could use some opinions on this
inb4 ryzen

>>60130053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
muh ryzen

>>60130053
Depends on how interested you are in possibly playing AAA games in the future, and at what resolution / Hz refresh rate of your monitor. a 7600k and 1060 6gb will be more than respectable in any non-AAA game at 1440p at any refresh rate, and will usually hit 60fps in a lot of AAA ones.

>>60129971
>>60129936
>intend to upgrade your cpu in 2 or 3 years the taichi might not be a bad idea

That's exactly my idea. I kinda get the vibes that the Taichi has a higher chance of receiving better UEFI updates to support newer CPU than the Asus Prime, or am I wrong on this?

Also, even though current Ryzen doesn't need crazy VRMs to OC good, we don't know how things will be 2 or 3 years from now.

Are my thoughts sane or am I just blowing out a shit ton of money?

>>60130022
>Why not just buy a r7 1700?
I think I will really take more advantage of the better single-threaded performance of a 4.0-4.1 Ghz 1600X than an 8-core CPU. I don't do much encoding or number crunching.

>>60130082
1080p60hz because i'm playing Grand strategy, total war, and single player fps games.

Not really interested in many AAA games, but i may play one or two in the future

First time building a pc, any changes I should make?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j3hHD8

>>60130142
we need informations about what precisely you will use your pc for to make the best advices possible anon

>>60130164
Definitely gaming, maybe some streaming as well

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WqFDNN

How'd I do?

Eventually going to get a a 1080 or Vega AMD meme and a 144hz monitor.

Did I do good on my jewish low price ways? Got about 92.97 off via combos and that Jets 15% deal.

How do these get along?
>R7 1700
>Asus PRIME B350M-A/CSM
>Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

My Phenom II X4 is showing its age.
Current gpu is Radeon R9 390
Vidya and shit like programming, etc.

>>60130218
then yeah it looks good, but this rx 580 is kinda overpriced. I know it's a black edition, but does higher clock really justify $60+ for you? The base 580 already handles 1080p like a champ, but heh it's up to you

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>>60129923
anyone?

>>60130236
i have the r7 1700 and asus prime, everything good here, can oc pretty well even
no idea about the ram though

>>60130256
asus prime b350m-a is pretty good but is micro-atx though
is has 6 sata ports tho

Rate my build /pcbg/
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xWpYzM

Ryzen 3 release date?

>>60129888
just get the 470

>>60129891
anus a shit
get the taichi

>>60130053
>intel
you fucked up

>>60130235
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WqFDNN
looks good other than that 3.5 meme card

>>60130344
second half of 2017 so nowhere very close

My current build (5 years old):
6200fx black edition (overclocked to 4.4)
GA-990XA-UD3
8gb ddr3 gskill 1600
radeon HD 6850 2gb
(no clue what the power supply is, but it hasn't failed yet)
Western Digital Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM
LG E2241 21.5


thinking about buying:

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (maybe)
ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX
DDR4 16gb (unknown what frequency cas and brand i'm going for, just don't want to spend more on RAM than my fucking cpu, so like 120 max)
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM (thinking about just buying ssd and using old HDD until it fails)
Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze
Acer XF240H 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor

So the total price of my build is $900~ so far, I've already bought the monitor ($170 factory recertified) and the gpu ($215 sale). I am not buying a new case because I'm gonna fucking gut the old one I am using hence why I have an ATX instead of mATX

How important is the 3200 memedie? Should I downgrade the cpu if I'm not going for it? I mostly play online multiplayer games (OW, cs:go, h1z1, ect) but it would be nice to break 60fps for offline single player.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7yhHD8

>>60130290
i was thinking of going for this one though im not sure if it is good
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144029&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

>>60130327
>only 4gb of ram
>500gb fucking 5400rpm!! hdd
what the fuck were you thinking

>>60130344
2h 2017

>>60130327
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q7kMd6

here, get a 570 instead, its worth it

>>60130376
looks about right

>>60130394
hes fucking destitute

>>60130352
>you fucked up
i'm not asking whether or not i fucked up, i'm asking if i should save some money by building a system that isn't crazy overpowered for what i need.

>>60128649
What mini itx / small form factor case would you recommend for
- H61 ASUS MiTX board w/ Pentium G645 8 GB
- GTX 560 Ti
- Corsair CX500M
- 1 SSD + 1 HDD

preferably silent
Would also be interested in a silent CPU cooler or even a passive one (running with the boxed)

>>60130421
its crazy shit, intel has no reason to exist that ryzen exists, get that instead

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>>60130352
I was tricked by jews with my 970.

My 680 died and the 970 was basically a little stronger than her while not being bottle necked by my glorious i5 2500.

Just not willing to jump to 144hz monitor or a new GPU with vega and freesync and all the other bullshit floating around while waiting for releases.

>>60129531
Strictly for gaming, the 7700k has better average performance than the 1700x.

In certain highly threaded games like Civilization 6 the 1700x is better, but at this point in time there's only a couple such games.

Over the next couple of years, who knows.

>>60130435
ryzen has too many compatibility problems and the price keeps adding on.

>>60130428
ryzen 1600 + 470/570 and you choose the rest, that computer is shit

if you just want a new case then thermaltake core x1

>>60130443
compatibility problems

far cry is shit there is absolutely nothing wrong with ryzen stop telling yourself lies

>>60130376
>but it would be nice to break 60fps for offline single player.
my man you're 100% sure to go above 70fps at max settings for any game
3200 is good, but it's not really needed. I'm personally on 2666mhz ram and everything is perfectly fine
Downgrading your cpu for 3200 ram would be worse performance so don't do it. Your build is great, go for it

>>60130440
>gaming
i think you mean averages, that shit cpu is a fucking stuttering mess

>>60130479
I'm talking about ram, not games.

>>60130483
>my man you're 100% sure to go above 70fps at max settings for any game
not really

3200mhz ram is just like 10$ more, i'd go for it.

>>60129636
Running Corsair Vengeance LPX at 3200mhz on a shitty b350 Mortar without drama. I just set the timings and that was it. Just pick something confirmed to reach the speed you want from the manufacturer's QVL and you're good.

>>60130535
>not really
what

>3200mhz ram is just like 10$ more, i'd go for it.
if it means downgrading the cpu, then it's a bad idea

>>60130510
>ram
yet another meme, ryzen has no problem with 3200mhz ram

>>60130579
>tfw owning 3333mhz ram but only being able to use 2133 speeds..

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>>60130438
The 970 was a jewish trick but otherwise it's still an okay card.

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>>60130566
saying that 480 can play "any game, max settings at 70fps" is just misleading. it's not a bad card but still, you'd need to bring some settings down to high.

>if it means downgrading the cpu, then it's a bad idea
then look for some spare change in pockets ffs 10$ is not that much.

>>60130579
don't plan to use 3200mhz ram,
2666mhz

>>60130622
>Deus ex
nothing runs that game well

>>60130637
then """""""""""""""""compatibility"""""""""""""""" isn't a issue for you, even less of a reason to get intel

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>>60130605

Its had its day which its competitors have not.

>>60130622
anon, the 2 - 3 few games that at max settings run like dogshit don't make the rule
in tomb raider, battlefield, hitman, civ 6, etc, he will max them and run it very well, just like the majority of other games
Sure, you get the occasional game that runs like shit, also happened in the past with Witcher 3, but it turns out only 2 - 3 settings were responsible for such bad performances and so is the case for those rare games running very poorly. They don't make the rule.

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>>60130650
>ryzen

>>60130123
7600k and 1060 will be mooooore than fine for you.

>>60130112
>I think I will really take more advantage of the better single-threaded performance of a 4.0-4.1 Ghz 1600X than an 8-core CPU.
that's not how it works. A 1600x is literally just a binned ryzen 7 with one core disabled on each CCX.

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>>60130668
i know i'm just being picky here but he did say "any game" and not "the majority of games expect a few aaa titles". just trying to not be misleading.

>>60130670
>posting reddit frogs
fine go for it, buy a """"premium"""" quad core in 2017

>>60130597
what mobo?

If I buy a couple (ryzen 5 1500X) and it comes with a cooler, do I also need to get thermal paste? I've heard I don't need to, but then how do I attach the cooler onto the cpu?

>>60130712
i hate you

>>60130701
>housefirelake

>>60130724
>couple
Meant cpu

>>60130712
who the fuck runs 2x ssaa and 16x AF?

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>>60130724
the paste comes pre-applied onto the cooler, which you put on the cpu and screw in or some shit just youtube how to do it.

>>60130724
thermal paste is pre-applied to the cooler, no need to buy it
>how do i attach the cooler
https://youtu.be/NMn-9V3WbCw?t=3m38s

snowy owl fucking when

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I bought Ryzen (1700X) because people were talking about stutters on i7 and I'm regretting it, I can't say I'm impressed by anything that thing does. Should've went Intel. I guess shills won that round.

>>60130787
what did you have before? also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyer%27s_remorse

>>60130787
I bought Intel i7 (7700k) because people were talking about cores not being important and I'm regretting it, It's leaking mustard gas at this very moment.

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>>60130787
>no reason why you regret it
wow i wonder what samefag is behind this one

>>60130787
Disappointed in what regard? Also the 1700x is the ugly stepchild of the ryzen family. You either go 1700 for value or 1800x for absolute top performance.

>>60130787
>I'm regretting it
what? why?
the hell is wrong, or are you just shilling?
i'm on a r7 1700 and i've been extremely happy with it even with single core heavy stuff like wii u emulation

>>60130763
retards

>>60130808
>>60130831
>>60130821
>>60130818
its fucking bait this cuck doesn't have a ryzen cpu its just the shlomo intel shill, ignore it

>>60130818
>It's leaking mustard gas at this very moment.
What is this supposed to mean?

Please explain in details without necessarily mentioning Ryzen why you're regretting it.

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>>60130834
>playing wii u games

>>60130873
hey captain toad treasure tracker was fun
fun
u
n

>>60130865
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur_mustard
can't explain, dying at this very moment

>>60130865
>stuttering
>quad core
>power consumption
>supporting israel
>deliding

is there anything to not be disappointed by?

>>60130903

Winning a snowboard from Tom's?

>>60130896
I know what mustard gas is. Also you're not him.

>>60130903
You're not him either, shill.

>stuttering
Never been proven, literally an AMD catchphrase you guys are using to undermine Intel's CPUs.

>>60130922
>Never been proven
wendell proved it, every reviewer noticed better framerates on ryzen

Any recommendation for a cheap sata hba?
No hardware raid needed, I'm going to use btrfs anyway, just a pci or pci-e sata controller with at least 8 internal ports.

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>>60130922

>>60130858
>everyone who doesn't like Ryzen is baiting cuck
It's not like you are any better than intel shills

>>60130948
Nice source.

>>60130985
That's an i5 and even I will say i5s are shit.

>>60130922
i have a 4790k and i notice stuttering all the time so fuck off intel shill

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>>60130922
>You're not him either
???
>Never been proven
When you have 4 cores pushed to 100% usage (and considering they're sharing those cores with other processes and the operating system itself), there's going to be hiccups and stutters no matter what.

>>60130985
this graph is bad because red is much more visible than blue, especially on the right side of the graph

>>60130483
thank you for the advice

>>60130483
>>60130535
heh I meant that my old build i can hardly get to 60fps in new games, if even that (on min settings)

I haven't seen any ddr4 3200 8gb x 2 samsung b-die for less than $170, hopefully there is a sale for some to bring it down to 120

>>60130953
I'd avoid most of the Marvell chipset-based PCIe HBAs. They all seem to have an issue where it randomly disconnects a drive or two for no apparent reason. The ASMedia ones seem a little more reliable, but they're not that good at handling more than two SATA drives at a time and may have boot looping issues out of the box.
I think it's best to find an LSI 9240-based HBA chipset for cheap on ebay. Sure, you'll have to pay more for an SFF-8087-to-4-SATA3 breakout cable, but it will be significantly more reliable and much less prone to random errors.

>>60131060
>>60131061
We're talking about games here, not encoding 50 videos at once while playing Crysis 4.

>>60131213
>$600 R7 1800X
>matched against 6700 non k
>no 6700k/7700k
Uh oh you sure showed them!

>>60131230
>games don't use more than 1 core hurr

Trying to enable xmp on the biostar b350gt3 with 3200 memory on ryzen. Anyone have any luck with this? I updated the bios and then enabled xmp. It seems it failed to post 3 times and went to to auto instead of xmp. Do I need to manually adjust anything else when enabling the xmp profile? Just using 2 sticks I know 4 goes to shit right now most of the time.

>>60131267
>MOARCOREZ

>>60131251

That is simply how you interpretate the data. You have infirred that the poster has some sort of agenda.

>>60129123
>>60129178

I thought a i5 would be more than sufficient for 144hz but [spoiler]gamefaq's[/spoiler] told me different

>>60131282
It it fails to post 3 time and resets the settings then it means it can't go to the clocks you're asking him to go to. Try updating to latest bios if you haven't already done it, may agesa update will be there to improve on this but otherwise there's not much you can do.

>>60131289
Intel is the head of fucking "MORECORES", the most recent CPU they released has fucking 72 cores.

>>60131357
not per die!

>>60131322

The mini boards seem to be a bit behind on the memory updates I suppose ill ignore it for now and try again in a month or two if there is more updates.

I grabbed the latest bios update but there was one between this and the original is it worth trying that? Watching youtube some of the people are complaining about some updates breaking stuff that worked previously.

>>60130550
Do you happen to know if https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233859&cm_re=Corsair_3200-_-20-233-859-_-Product is supported by that b350 tomahawk?

I have it pulled up on their page but it CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 isn't shown specifically, but CMK16GX4M2B3200C16R and CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W are.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html#support-mem

Reasonable shit to buy from Intel in the [current year]:
Used Xeons
Reasonable shit to buy from Intel in the [current year]:
Used/New Ryzens

>>60131384
it really depends on the mobo brand, asus has had 5 bios updates so far and the other big ones (msi, gigabyte, asrock) also got around as much (with msi getting one two days ago even)

>>60131282

Does that board have an external clock generator? RAM training onb ryzen is extremely complex and outside of certain kits the only way people are getting high RAM clocks is by setting a 2666mhz profile and using external clock generators to get speed up. I am unsure of which boards support the feature in B350 as it is more of a x370 thing.

>>60131413
>wrote intel twice
whoops

>>60131144
Well it's only like 10 extra bucks for the miniSAS cable compared to 4 SATA cables that I'd have to buy anyway.
Thanks.

>>60131418
>>60131419

Its a Biostar board with only 2 updates. Also when looking for boards there wasnt as much info on memory for the micro boards. Ill just wait a couple months and see what shakes loose.

is an R5 1600 + RX 580 enough to do 1080p144hz gaming on Overwatch and CSGO and 60fps for AAA games?

Never been the type to max out graphics settings to enjoy a game.

>>60131508
short answer: yes

>>60131508
long answer: yes

>>60131508
yes

i just put a 1070 in today but it doesn't show up in device manager or even in bios anyone got any idea?

>>60130701
>just a binned ryzen 7
But I probably won't be able to overclock the 1700 as high as the 1600X which will hurt my single-threaded performance. It is also still more expensive than the 1600X.

>>60131713
200mhz at the very worst isn't a whole lot, getting the R7 1700 at 4GHz on a good cooler isn't very hard. The only problem is that it heats more than the 1600x because it has more cores, but otherwise the clock difference isn't relevant at all

>>60131762
Is the 4Ghz on the 1700 a good lottery or a guarantee?

Because it's practically guaranteed on the 1600X. Some get to 4.1

>>60131785
>Some get to 4.1
And no ryzen can go above, and the vast majority of r7 1700 reach 3.9GHz
It's not guaranteed to reach 4GHz without bumping voltage high (though still at safe levels), but even then 3.9GHz to 4.1 on the same architecture is not gonna make much of a difference

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>>60131762
>>60131785
>>60131816


Silicon Lotterys testing is terrible but the treend of the 1700 capping out at 3.9ghz is sound. The main issue is that a lot of 1700's can push 4ghz but require straight up lethal amounts of voltage to do (straight from Robert Hallock: ryzen should not go over 1.42v*). The X chips are basically binned for clockspeed and non-x binned for low power draw (similarly how we saw the 9590 and 8370e for vishera).

My own 1700 currently won't survive IBT at 4ghz almost regardless of voltage but handles 3.9ghz at 1.325v.


* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZgpHTaQ10k (well worth a watch)

>>60131852
So, once again for retarded me, 1700x is better at OCing and has better chance to get 3.9 or 4ghz at lower voltage?

>>60131902
yes
is hitting 4GHz at lower voltage worth the price difference? up to you

>>60131902
>>60131852
Than 1700*

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 Windforce OC for 350€ - yes/no?

Is a gtx 1060 6gb at 300 a good deal? I guess not,what do you recommend that is a little cheaper?

>>60132486
In Burger bucks? Absolutely not. RX 480 or 580 are better and cheaper.

>>60132504
Euros my friend

>>60132513
This is even worse.

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>tfw want to upgrade to Ryzen
>But don't want to risk having the flash the bios a bunch of times for legit performance / memory upgrades

How many more months should I wait before I bother?

>>60128732
xd

>>60128753
You made the duplicate thread first like you usually do and should be banned already. Fuck off.

>>60128732
What did he mean by this

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Should i go through with buying this? How future-proof is this build (i'm talking being able to play stuff on it well into the early 2020's without having to upgrade too much)?

>AMD Ryzen 5 1400 3.20
>ASRock AB350M-HDV
>8GB DDR4 Crucial Value RAM
>PSU CORSAIR 450W VS
>GPU onboard because i already got another good one right here

R8 this build pls

I'm literally on the verge of buying this, the main thing for me is being able to sell the old hardware afterwards along with not having to worry about upgrading anything else again for the next couple years like i said above

>>60132616
>>60132616
>flash the bios

Oh fuck is this a thing with ryzen? Noo fuck i wanted to upgrade aswell today but now i have doubts

>>60132616
>risk having the flash the bios
??? it's as simple as updating the drivers.

if you're that retarded you might as well go for intel

>>60132714
>>60132714
Someone answer quick pls

>>60132714

Your 660ti isn't going to cut it anymore anon.

>>60132714
>early 2020s
>4 cores
Maybe, depends what kinds of gaymes and how much the developers want their games to be accessible to everyone (aka optimizing for less corez)

>>60132771
>>60132616
>being this dumb to update the bios

You should buy a mac

>>60132794
Isn't updating the bios from windows (like a normal driver) bad?

I haven't built a PC in like 6 years.

>>60132836
>Being this dumb to buy a mini jet engine that stutters to 1GHz
Kill yourself

>>60132835
Hilarious, when it's Intel 4 cores is bad but when it's Ryzen it's "maybe".

>>60132857
Intel its even better. At least they have a good core clock. Also its the same guy

>>60132835
>>60132835
Well i can live with playing on mid settings too in a couple years from now, besides i could also upgrade to a better ryzen at some point too

My main concern is with the Ryzen 1400 though, like this thing just came out a couple weeks back right? I mean is it a reliable/good cpu and what does all the benchmark stuff say about it

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/zZjzgL

This is what i have so far. Still semi undecided on mobo. The Asus Prime X370 Pro looks great with it's VRM and the price is ok, alternative would be the Gigabyte Gaming 3.
I'm not going to use SLI or CrossFire, the X370 is in hope of better quality components for longer lifespan and voltage regulation, if that makes sense.
GPU.. now, a friend could give me his old GTX660 until Vega releases. This takes me to the next point, the PSU. Do you think 550W will be enough for Vega and R5 1600 OC to 3.8-4.0GHz?

>>60132841
no. the last time i updated a bios it took ~2min and it was literally running an .exe file and restarting the pc.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/DxtYJx
Again, i am back. God damn there are NO FUCKING FREESYNC 1440p MONITORS UNDER $280.

>play gtav with 4790k
stutters everywhere

>play gtav with 1700
Smooth sailing at 1440p

Intel never again

>>60132714
go with AMD Ryzen 5 1600

>>60132904

>Level1tech

>>60132904
what gpu, settings?

>>60128649
Planning a Ryzen + Vega build later this year.

X370 vs. B350 for single GPU, a handful of drives, and I need at least 8 USB ports

Also, SATA vs. NVMe solid state, I'll basically just be using this machine for gaming and basic shit.

Look at my build plebs and envy
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tHqvkT

>>60132980

B350, SATA.

Only go x370 is you know you can get the most out of it and the same applies for NVMe.

>>60132981
>1080ti with a 1080p monitor
is this a bait

>>60133053
What if he like ultra at high fps.

>>60133078
literally autism

>>60132981
>Arctic silver, 2017
>256gb SSD, 2017
>Shitty retarded gaming headset
>1080p 60hz monitor with 1080ti
>Literally the worst speakers in the universe
>WiFi
>Awful gaymur membrane keyboard and shit tier mouse
>Underage b@ side window case
Here's your (You) mate. On the offchance you're really about to build that shit: Nah mate. Nah. kysdesusenpai

>>60133078
>Ultra high FPS at 60hz
Topkek

>>60133083
I my self hate to see level of detail degradation in some games its ok but in others it make them look shit

I will be buying small vega or gtx1070 for 1080p 75hz

>i5 4690k
>gtx 1070

am i bottlenecking my shit bros

>>60133138
You missed
>at

>>60133155
>1080 75Hz
>VEGA or 1070
Nice meme. Buy a 1060 6GB or RX 580 8GB

>>60133171
No.

>>60133185
And play in medium with drops to 40fps
No thank you.
>le all you need

Shitty meme

>>60132981
>gaymer ram
>$120 cooler for a cpu that is a generation old
>garbage case that probably doesn't even have enough room to accommodate all the fans you are using for liquid cooling both the cpu and gpu.
>trash monitor
>trash headset
>trash keyboard
>trash mouse
>speakers

This was atrocious. Scrap the meme cooler and just get a standard fan for $30. Get some ram that doesn't look like ricer shit and save $30. Invest these savings into a proper keyboard and mouse.

Get a 1070 since it byself is overkill for 1080p, 60fps. Put those savings into a good 144hz monitor with built in speakers.

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>>60128649
Budget: ~$900
Country: United States of America
What I DO:
>20 tabs open at once
>Emulation (PS2 and PSP)
>1080p@60fps gaming ONLY
>I like SSDs
>Mostly single player RPG games
>Want to play on High/Ultra/Max with little compromises
What I DO NOT do
>I do NOT play Moba/blizz shit
>I do NOT stream/edit
>I do NOT care about AAA/4k shit

Should I get an IPS panel? If so, which one? Also, if someone would be willing to help, can you make a build for me but do not include the monitor with the build. Thank you, /g/.

>>60133210
*ok im exaggerating here i actually do consider rx580 8gb but i will prabably go with vega or rx 1070 for that extra confort

>>60133232
Misconceptions you may have about IPS Panels:
>What IPS Panels dont affect:
>SSDS
>FPS
>20 tabs at once
>pretty much anything CPU related

>What IPS does affect
>higher input lag (most of the time 4ms so not that bad as long as its under 6)
>in some cases the price is higher for an IPS monitor

>>60133232
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w6g6Fd

>>60133329
Why?

>>60133321
IPS also reproduces colors more accurately but is usually not as bright.

>>60133329
leave this general

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dr8Bd6

Budget: ~$900
What I do:
>FFXIV MMO. Prepping for new expac.
>5-8 tabs open on browser
>Emulation shenanagins.
>Occasional Streaming of older games such as X-COM and JA2.
No Moba, No real care for AAA/4k.

Taking suggestions on GPU, rest looks pretty solid to me. 900 includes tax/shipping.

>>60133321
I don't play competitive shit and I prefer better colors anyway, so I won't even consider TNs. Any recommendations for a good IPS with thin bezels?
>>60133329
>CPU
Why?

>>60133232
I'd get a nice big and comfy 500GB-1TB SSD. That'll be $130-$250 of your budget.
Then just get a basic 1500X or 1600 build.
Maybe you should simply get a G4560 as it sounds like all you need, an would help afford a better monitor and bigger decent SSD.

>Should I get an IPS panel
Won't fit in your budget at all. 1440p 144hz freesync are $400+
I would not waste money on an IPS when it's 1080p.
You could consider getting an old HP ZR24w or newer model, or older 1920x1200 Dell Ultrasharp.
They were expensive new, but you can find them for cheap refurbished sometimes.

>>60133321
a few one-thousands of a second slower response time is worth better picture quality and deep blacks. IPS is more comfy.

>>60133390
IPS don't NEED to be more bright. A photograph isn't bright, either.

>>60133329
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w6g6Fd
What the fuck? You can get a superior 1600 for less than that used Xeon.

>>60133395
Is that 2x8GB of Team Dark DDR4 3000 not on sale for $100 on Newegg anymore? Or is that RAM just on QVL and the other isn't?

Build is solid otherwise. Only thing I'd change is getting an SU800 512GB for $130 or MX300 525GB for $140.
The 850 is SLIGHTLY like 3% faster, but way better price/$ on the others and the others are very reliable.

>>60133402
>1600
Ryzen is garbage for emulation.

>>60133402
>IPS don't NEED to be more bright
I agree for a desktop monitor that will be inside in a light controlled environment. If your room has a lot of natural light it can be an issue.

>captcha has my streetname

>>60133402
>Won't fit in your budget at all
The $900 was my budget purely for the build.

Also, I heard Ryzen is bad with emulation. This is why I specifically posted this in the first place, because I will be emulating games.

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>>60133449
>I heard Ryzen is bad with emulation
lol no. That's just idiots regurgitating their assumptions.

It's only not great on Cemu, which is Cemus problem to work out and not Ryzen's. Cemu runs crap on everything right now with many games.
The PS3 emulator runs great on it. It's the Cemu programmer's problem that he has everything single threaded despite the Wii using a 3 core 1.23GHz CPU, and that he doesn't take advantage of Ryzen's higher IPC by compiling to make use of 4 complex instruction decodes per cycle.

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>>60133489
How about PS2 and PSP?

Also, what is the ABSOLUTE best build suited for my needs?
1. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B2RxQV
2. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HZrkPs
3. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w6g6Fd

And what's a good case, mouse and mouse pad to go with a keyboard like this?

>>60133522
PS2 is right there in that picture?
It's running Dolphin, PCSX 2, and Doom and only using 36% of the stock clocks 1700. (3.2/3.7GHz)
Yes. PSP is fine too.
Literally the only emulator it can't run well is Cemu, which doesn't run well on anything.

If you JUST want a dedicated emulator box, you can make something with an i3-7350k using the iGPU for like $350. It won't be good on newer games though, obviously.

>>60133522
That first build is pretty much the ideal performance/$ build you can make for all sorts of purposes.
2nd one is garbage, and super bad value.
3rd one is better than the i5 build but still bad when you can get a 1600 for cheaper that'll also be better on emulators than a locked 3.4/3.8GHz Xeon.

>And what's a good case, mouse and mouse pad to go with a keyboard like this
Idk.
Rosewill SRM-01 is only $20. Carbide 88r would be a nice case for that 1st one too. Just look at mATX cases and chose for yourself.
Check mechanical keyboard general maybe.
I like Steel Series mice.

>>60133522
PCSX2 runs great on my 1700 - clocked to a comfy 3.8ghz and not but any issues. Same goes for Dolphin.

>>60133429
Other thing is, I have case and a Platter 1tb for storage, but I might look into that SU800. I'm definately looking for reliability here.

I'm just not sure if I should go for an 8GB GPU or not.

>>60133604
Thank you, anon. Was that your PC running emulators in the picture? What are your specs?

>>60133620
Not hit any issues, even. Phonelife.

>>60133625
SU800 and MX300 might be even more reliable than an 850 from what I've seen from long term reviews.

>>60133644
Noted and changed up. Thanks.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4HTLBP

I am having a 760 GTX right now and want to buy a new graphics card.
My budget is 300 eurobucks.
Should I go for the rx580 or wait what vega will bring?
I feel like the rx580 > 1060 and everything else is busting the budget.

>>60133620
>>60133604
Would you recommend Windows 7 or 10?

>>60133635
Not mine but I already said what the CPU was which is all that's relevant there.

>>60133651
Looks good. Really nice build for $750.
I'd get the Red Devil if it's not sold out and fits in your case though. Only $5 more but like 5% better.

>>60133662
Vega probably won't be 300 euros, man.
I'd just get an RX570. That'll already be like 5-20x better than your 760.
What's the difference in price between the cheapest RX570 you can find, an RX570 red devil, and the cheapest RX580?
Because in America, the RX580 just isn't very good value except for 1440p. Isn't much faster in 1080p but is a lot more money.

>>60133674
I'd recommend Linux with Win10 running in KVM.

>>60133687
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B2RxQV

would this build be able to run Skyrim and Nier: Automata on Ultra/High/Max 60fps 1080p?

>>60132616
what do you have?

>>60133717
Like my current rig or the PCpicker shit I had loaded up for my ryzen build?

Because I'm rocking an i5 2500 nonk so just about everything is a huge upgrade.

>>60133687
Case is the Corsair 400R, Red Devil is what? Mobo?

>>60132980
>a handful of drives, and I need at least 8 USB ports
this shit pretty much requires a x370

>>60132981
>intelfag
>calling anyone a pleb
AHAHAHA

>>60133395
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dr8Bd6
just get a 1600, its barely more expensive but way better

>>60133712
>Nier Automata
Shit port is shit. So possibly not.

Anyone who doesnt put their budget in their post now gets refered this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dqnff8

>>60133329
>picking the worst fucking xeon possible, only used by cheapskate minecraft hosting services and other garbage game services
wowee

>>60133433
>Ryzen is garbage for emulation.
nice meme

>>60133651
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4HTLBP
still doesn't have a 1600

>>60133751
On my phone and lost my shit as I had to scroll down through all of those drives. Toppest kek, mate. Good show.

>>60133687
>Vega probably won't be 300 euros, man.
thats what I suspected. thanks for clarification. I wont wait, then.
570 (4GB) is 190,
570 (4GB) red devil 220
580 (8GB) is 260.

the thing I dont really understand, yet, is that the 4GB difference dont really seem to make much of an impact?!

>>60133768
Was trying to save a few bucks, but.. Its still under my budget.

>>60133751
You forgot the pop tarts.

>>60133712
If you use the optimization patch that makes it run better without changing how it looks, yeah you should get 100+ fps in Nier. And in skyrim, too, obviously.

There's only like 5 games you won't get 60fps on very high/maxed with that build. Dishonored 2, GR Wildlands, and a few others I can't think of that probably aren't shit you'll play. It'll do 100-300 in most games you play, it sounds like.

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>tfw just pulled the trigger on https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FkrkPs

I just need to not fuck this up with W7 (or 10?) piracy.

Or get fucked up parts.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438094 is still unlisted in PC picker.

Since i have probably an hour to cancel order if I fucked something up, did I make any mistakes afternoon /g/ users?

Mainly for future 1080p 144hz, just getting all the other parts barring GPU / Monitor while waiting for vega.

>>60133803
id recommend it, most quadcores have shit minimums in gaymes, and cant hold a candle to anything with more cores in just about anything else

>>60133737
Google "part_type red devil" until you get results, and check if your case supports something that size. Not googling for you.

>>60133849
>970
>144hz
what did he mean by..
>waiting for vega.
o

What's the best cooler for r7 1700?

I'm thinking about the D15 but I have my fury x fan on the back of the case so the D15 won't fit properly

>>60133837
>Dishonored 2, GR Wildlands, and a few others I can't think of that probably aren't shit you'll play
Thankfully I don't play those games anyway. I'm glad to hear that this build will be able to play Skyrim at 60 fps, though. Thanks.

>>60133849
looks fine mate

>>60133877
People seem to get confused a lot that their $700-$900 build will be able to play virtually anything at 60+fps maxed out now days the same as people with $1500-$2000 PCs from a year ago who got more than they needed for a 60hz monitor.
They think at that price, they must be getting something low end.
Thanks AMD.

>>60133819
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/JZJQ7P
Scroll to the bottom. Anything else?
>wow pcpartpicker can recognize anything from amazon

Can you play games in 4k without a 4k monitor?

>>60133936
>oznerol10

>>60133869
Found it, weird I didn't see it earlier in the GPU list.

Not sure it will fit the Corsair 400R.

>Someone offering me free parts, unused
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KMQ4vV

Fuck.

>>60133955
I didnt fucking know what to put. Might as well make a tripcode

>>60133918
>Thanks AMD.
What did she mean by this?

>>60133969
>testing
Is this how you do a trip?

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>>60133897
>>60133869
It's a good feel.

Real talk, I should probably take it to stupid questions thread, but W10 or 7?

I mean 7 hasn't done me wrong but all I know about 10 is that it's corporate tier spyware.

Or at least that's what I heard about it the last time I looked it up.

>>60133988
ye

>>60134014
test

Noob question

I have an oldish dell Inspiron 600 (slim tower) and I want to put a SSD in it. I think it has a 3.5 inch hdd. What do I need to put a 2.5 inch SATA SSD in it?

>>60132878
Anyone???

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>>60134035
there are cheap adapters, anon.
alternatively, zip ties.

>>60134035

Nothing, just attach the SATA cable to the motherboard and shove in there somewhere

You'll see 3.5" to 2.5" 'adapters' being sold, but these are completely unnecessary. If you really need to hold it down, sticky tape it into 3.5" bay or to a side of the case

Is this a good build?
Gpu: Sapphire AMD RX Nitro 8gb
Cpu: Ryzen 5 1600
Ram: 4x2 Corsair 3000MHz
Motherboard: MSI Z170A Gaming Pro Carbon, Socket 1151
Case: Corsair CC-9011050-WW
Psu: 550W Corsair
Storage: 1TB for all the shit I need + 120GB SSD for Windows and whatever
All this for 900ish Europoor monei, I just want to be comfortable with everything and not get ripped off

>>60134151
yes but
>Sapphire AMD RX Nitro 8gb

what is this shit supposed to be a 480, 580?

>>60134086
Not that anon but is there any kind of doodad for keeping the video card from sagging?

Shit's heavy yo.

>>60134166
480

NEW THREAD
>>60134205
>>60134205
>>60134205

>>60134151
>buying 2GB RAM sticks
>socket 1151 board with Ryzen processor

Also, make sure whatever PSU you're buying is at least 80+ bronze rated.

>>60134242
I guess i spelled it wrong, it's 2 rams of 4gb each
What's wrong with the second point?

>>60134258
They're not compatible. You need an AM4 socket board.

>>60134011
7 has problems with ryzen, otherwise it's up to personal preference.

I'm looking for a processor, but I have no clue what I'm doing. Should I get an AMD A Series?

I'm still on an I5 4690k and am pretty content. Should I spring but an I7 for this socket or just hold off for a couple of more years for a major upgrade?

>>60134543
I'm on an i5 4670k myself and planning on keeping it for 2 more years, I can emulate Zelda botw with that cpu it's still pretty good

>>60132878
I'm not sure if that memory is going to work at 3200Mhz with Ryzen if it's not B-die. Though the AGESA May update might help.

Check here if the model is Samsung B-die RAM.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/