/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

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Post you're self typing on your favorite keyboard?
t. ~120 wpm w/ knock off blues aka the bottom out god

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1RqfqT3dl8T (embed)

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So whats the main difference between Blacks and Reds? I'm trying to figure out what switch I want on my next keyboard

>>60106447
those keycaps would look a whole lot better if it wasn't for those ugly colors.

>>60106526
blacks are heavier then reds. thats all

>>60106526
Reds are lighter, has fewer grams required of actuation force than the blacks. Blacks have a "wholier" sound, a thicker sound. Both are linear, some say that blacks causes fatigue in fingers and hands but i dont actually notice.
I find blacks fantastic, and red shouldn't be very different. If you've got weak fingers you should consider red switches. I chose black merely because of sound and feel. They feel somewhat sturdier.

>>60106526
Reds complain about the names of sports teams and run casinos, blacks run gangs, get shot by cops and star in big dick porn.

>>60106504
cringe

click clack click clack look at my guns and my keycaps

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>>60107245
did you forget this image?

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>>60107256
>reposting my stuff
Awww anon :3333 ty

>>60107294
Post your dick already

Maybe we just let him post the guns. It obviously means a lot to him. I thought it over a bit and I Kinda feel bad for telling him to fuck off all the time.

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>>60107294
>>60107256
my setup

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>>60107294
>failco
>mx sands
>thin tai-lmao keycaps
>proje/k/ting
>1.3mb of avatarfagging

>>60107466
do you fap to your guns or what

>>60107294
Why the fuck would you buy six handguns? You only need two max.

>>60107547
Says who?

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>>60107533
sometimes

>>60107547
The kind of person who buys cheap garbage handguns and isn't satisfied with them so gets another.
Get a USP, nigger.

>>60107547
in a crisis/war type situation you would gang up with family and friends and not all of them have their own guns

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>>60107466
>Yahoo Japan

>>60107466
Yeah but what does the front of your house look like.

>>60107555
where what why how those dildos

>>60107612
I don't use a vpn so it automatically goes to the local version.
>>60107617
I'm living in an apartment in Shinjuku, not a house.
It's pretty boring, when I get home I may take a photo if you're interested.

>>60107649
It's legal to own all that shit in Squintland?

>>60107294
>P64
>mediocre Walther
>-two- M&Ps
>A FUCKING R51

Jesus christ dude. You need help. At least get a fucking Bulgarian Makarov and CZ-52 if you're doing the slavshit, a P99 or PPQ if you're doing Walther, and just throw the Remington in a blender.

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>>60107667
>airsoft
Yep

>>60107670
>>60107578
Those are just my pocket pistols and you're recommending garbage and also you don't know who I am? Is this a silly ploy to get me to egotrip so you can filter me? :(


Guys, the bottom line is I'm posting keyboards in a keyboard thread. All this autistic shitposting is literally against the rules and sad to read. Let's post some nice keyboards and let's have fun!

>>60107706
>Any of those guns being garbage compared against half the ones in that picture
anon pls

I respect the Walther collection but its time to accept you fucked up. There's no defending the R51.

and no, I don't know who you are because I don't document who every fucking person on 4chan is. Nor do I care.

>>60107741
why does every choice have to be perfect when he has like 50 other guns?
also >>>/k/

>>60107706
>is this a silly ploy to get me to egotrip so you can filter me?
can you filter yourself out of life with one of your guns?

>>60107649
>I'm living in an apartment in Shinjuku, not a house.
>It's pretty boring, when I get home I may take a photo if you're interested.
Oh yes very much so.

>>60106504
If I wanted to hear typing I'd just hop in discord and listen to all the faggots who don't know how to properly queue their mics

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>>60107245

>>60107466
What do you do that you are so wealthy?

>>60106447
why do most people go for different shades of grey and black for their key caps?

some look pretty nice, like the lower one in OP's pic. but most are all the same. and if its not that its pink with light blue. they look so bland like if they were made to only be used for work, which i know most people do use them for that, but they look so devoid of creativity.

not saying mine is any better, but theres too much of the same thing in these threads.

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Is this the best looking non meme keyboard?

>>60108066
I help teach english but I only earn minimum wage because the way the program works.
However I make most of my money scanning doujins for cash and online gambling.

>>60108350
>illegible black on black legends
>non meme

>>60108350
that's a meme board if I ever saw one.

>>60108485
>>60108497

Hahaha, no. Memes boards are the kind of shit you like. Weird ass fucking layouts, FN nightmares, ortho boards, gay sock-matching colors (ironically of course) and other shit like that.

Non-meme keyboards are the ones that look normal and/or are common gaymare rice crap like quickfires.

>>60108586
I bet you like F keys you fucking homo

>>60108592

Go ahead and fucking shoot me you sexy beast.

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>>60108586
>FEENIX AUT-014 Autore Gaming Keyboard
>$235.38

>>60108601
not right now, mods told me not to ERP in /mkg/ and if I get my work's ip banned my boss will get mad at me.

>>60108615

Mods were just jealous and wanted to ERP with you.

Not so sure about your boss, but I'd explore the option.

>>60108066
nigga thats all plastic toys and that pic is as old as the internet

Linus has been shilling for the masterkeys pro L recently. Is it any good? Its the only RGB keyboard ive seen that doesnt have an autistic 1337 gamer font on the keys.

I recorded myself doing five minutes of typing test and I've had it on loop all day. Pretty satisfying desu knee~

>>60108936
CoolerMaster mechanical keyboards are the only non-terrible gaming keyboards.

>>60108959

They sure look fucking terrible.

What about those Logitech ones? Are they terrible? They sure look fucking terrible.

Is there a possibility that installing dampening rings causes missing keystrokes sometimes? just put some in and wondering if it'll affect the consistency of the presses

>>60109052
the fuck are you talking about they're about as plain as it gets nothing ricey about them

>>60108936
Almost anything RGB is trash.
They making you pay for colors you don't even need.

>>60109145
>colors you dont even need
Why wouldn't you want to change colors every so often? I have rgb strips stuck to the back of my monitor and I never leave it on one color. Its nice to change the mood of the room every so often.

>>60109165
this. also people will justify getting keycaps in various colors but then shit on colored lights. sour grapes much? anyway get white leds if you prefer, coolermaster has them too.

>>60109199
different colored keycaps can look good, colored LEDs can't.

It's like races, sure people with tan skin can look good, but white people who change their skin color to look darker look like shit.

>>60109105

Well, I got to admit Pro L and Pro S are not ricey at all. With replacement keycaps, they look just fine:

http://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/2F6p0

The original font is an improvement on their star-trek bullshit from the quickfires, but it still looks crappy in my opinion.

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>>60109310

Is there a list of all gateron keybrohs?

>>60109432
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=98
not really but here's this

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This is the best layout for me, wish chinks would rip off the layout so I could get it with black switches. Have a full size board now but I recently started to force myself to touch tip and I need my board more centered to do that. might just grab a chink TKL board with blacks and hope something else comes out that fits my needs.

>going from 80wpm with hunt and peck to 15wpm touch type

not even sure this worth it.

>>60109493

Thanks but, I found that earlier. I know for a fact there's more than just those though.

>>60109505

Yeah it's fucking worth it. You're typing like a grandma, suck it up and learn.

what do you all think about the ducky shine 6?

>>60109505
of course it's worth it and good thing you're realizing how dumb full size boards are. the design was conceived when people weren't using mice

>>60109506
there is

check massdrop, taobao, and other similar sites

most gateron switches come on chink and custom board kits

>>60109517
My grandmother is in her 90s and can do 110ish WPM.

>>60109553
yeah,

Holy shit genuine Cherry stabs are so much better than the chink clones

I didn't think the difference would be this much from how much the sliders wobbled on their own, but assembled it's all perfect and the keys stay near flat instead of angling like crazy, even when you just press the very end down

>>60109505
You can build 96-key boards with that layout, there's supposed to be an AMJ96 group buy soon and then Duck Lightsaver V3 after that.

>>60109668
got a source on that? If that's the case i'll toss some PBT caps on this cheap board and wait till they are available.

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>>60109807
forgot pic

whats mkgs opinion on gateron whites ?

>>60109807
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/65yi73/icamj96/

One month approx until more info on the AMJ96v2

Duck LSv3 will probably sell out in about two minutes whenever the buy starts on Geekhack, so you'd be better off waiting for AMJ

>>60109830
Do you mean their ultralight linears or did they actually make a Cherry white soft-click clone?

What's the story on backlit doubleshot pbt caps

Is vortex still the only set it are there more now

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>>60109807
And here's the image showing possible layouts the V1 had

>>60109888
>>60109930


how do these things get announced? I don't want to miss them when they get announced.

https://world.taobao.com/item/545282990880.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.5vg5Vc#detail


how do I order this?

>>60109895
found something on ali which listed white switches

>>60110106
China generally refers to "clear" as "white" and "white" as "milk", so they're probably Gateron clears, ultralight linear switches.

>>60106526
Blacks are 60 to 65 grams, depends on who made them. Reds are universally 45 grams. Blacks are generally thockier, although that also depends on the keycaps. If you go for blacks, avoid Cherry blacks like the plague. They are extremely scratchy and unsatisfying. Gareron blacks on the other hand are considered one of the best switches ever because of how smooth they are

>>60110122
I can confirm, Gateron Blacks are amazing while Cherry Blacks are Garbage

>>60110122
>>60110143
Cherry recently replaced the molds for the MX blacks, there's people on GH confirming that they are now the smoothest black switches out there.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/96-DIY-Kit-Mechanical-Keyboard-Customized-Set-PCB-Case-Plate-Stabilizers-Underglow-RGB-Free-shipping/429151_32733608635.html

So this is a DIY 96 key kit right? Is it any good?

>>60110114
there was both clears and whites

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Got this in the mail today

Vortex Pok3r AYY LMAO blues edition.

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>>60110406

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>>60107706
>keyboards
I'd like to point out that you only post one keyboard

A friend of mine is looking for cheap Japanese Cherry MX caps. What would be a good place to look for those?
Aliexpress only sells a set that's over 60 euro's.

>>60110789
>phone doesn't support USB OTG
>tablet that does broke
>can't use my sexy mechs while computer is broken
Life is suffering

>>60110901
I assume you're talking about EnjoyPBT, they're the cheapest and best Japanese legend keycaps.

>>60110916
yeah, I was hoping there would be cheaper caps around the 20~30 euro price mark.

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>buy small keyboard because /mkg/ told me to
>literally no sets have the right sized modifiers
FUCK YOU GUYS

>>60111227
most small keyboards have a standard layout, what kind of meme shit did you buy

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>mechanical keyboards

>>60107612
They still got Geocities.

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Day two of touch typing on my new mech keyboard. I'm 32 and hunt and peaked my entire life. Will I get good?

>>60111352
sure, if you keep at it

>>60111352
I admire your honesty anon. I learned to touch type at 13 by just using the computer all day.
Check our keybr when you get your wpm up a bit. I use it to kill time when I'm bored. It generates lessons for you and has detailed statistics about your typing.

>>60111352
Try typing club if you're at that level, it's a bit of tedious work but well worth it to help get over the initial learning curve. Once you're done with the lessons move onto typeracer. Remember to focus on accuracy and the speed will come along with it.

Are there good mechanical keyboards with a Mac key layout?

>go to reddit mech keyboard board
>tons of enthusiasts who build their own shit, talk about keyboards exclusively
>go to /mkg/
>fags flirting

explain

Is reteaching myself to touch type really that much better?
I can type without looking down, I don't hunt and peck but I noticed I use my index and middle fingers for letters, the thumb for space and my pinkie for modifiers while my hands float above the keyboard.
This is just how I learned, I have about 85wpm with this janky method.

Obviously just learning to touch type I'm getting much lower but is it actually going to be better?

>>60110938
lol, maybe if you were in japan. Give up, or pay up.

>>60111461
Yes. Any keyboard will work, you can even take your old mechanical one and replace the keycaps. If you want new then matias and magicforce make some

>>60111599
yes, learn to use all fingers. You will be slower at first, but when you get comfortable you will probably be faster

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>>60111545
I'm slow

>>60111620
>2KRO

So you basically can't play any game ever made?

>>60111673
I barely play games.
But I have a few cherry boards I just pull out if Im gonna geyme

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>>60108164
here is some green.

>>60111438
>typing club

Thanks, I do find when ever I try to go fast I fall back in bad habits. Like my pointer finger going up for the E key. I'll keep at it though, learning to touch type is next on my list of self improvements and I completed everything else so far.

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>>60111545
ok faggot ill take your bait just like i take dick


lets go to reddit

first three posts on the top in that shithole:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/67vqv2/mrw_my_wife_sees_my_freshly_assembled_whitefox_on/
a meme post, go fuck yourself

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/680qef/introducing_the_cherry_mx_heavy_for_those_who/
another fucking meme post, go fuck yourself

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/681h01/got_my_jellykey_aaaaand_its_broken
artisan keycap bullshit, go double fuck yourself

fuck you

>>60111717
v3 when

>>60111717
>just like i take dick
With bitter resignation, it seems?

>>60111673
Most rubber domes are 2kro and people play games just fine, also modifiers don't count towards the limit, and depending on how the matrix is designed certain 3-5 key clusters can register. For example on my model M I can register all keys on the left side, except for S and X.

>>60108164
Just wait until Miami posting starts

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>>60108164
Perhaps this is more becoming of your gusto?

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You guys aren't spending insane amounts of money on special keyboards without at least vaguely being able to use one right?

>>60111932
I spent over $250 on my keyboard and I hunt and peck with just my index fingers

>>60111952
Well why don't you follow this guys
>>60111352
example and learn to type? Honestly I have no idea how that's even possible. Do you just never use your fucking computer? I never had any formal training or instruction, touch typing is a natural thing if you actually use a computer.

>>60111968
always did the two finger hunt and peak. Could crank out like 80wpm that way.

>>60111992
wow that's legitimately impressive. I'm sitting here trying to do it but I can't stop my other fingers from pressing the buttons.
my form is not ideal i over use my index fingers and don't use other fingers at all but it works

>>60112014
I mean I don't use "some" other fingers at a ll like my right ring finger is only used to his backspace and right pinky is only used to hit enter.

>>60112014
Opposite for me, the second I stop focusing on my typing I revert back to two fingers.

>>60111717
Why so much hate for brown, it's a wonderful switch.

>>60112050
It's totally subjective, just like headphones. So that being said if you don't use blue you're a huge faggot that loves cock

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>>60112050
Did you try any other switches?

Going to purchase a TADA soon, should I go for gateron red or brown? I've only had experience with cherry reds.

>>60112096
Why are you so set on linear? I would go brown over red because it's heavier.
Do you bottom out on your red keyboard?

>>60107547
>need

>>60112147
Browns and reds are the same weight. Gateron browns are indeed pretty nice, as are reds, but I think if I'd get a second tada I'd get browns just for having a keyboard with them.

>>60112050
Browns have such light of a bump it might as well be linear and feels so close to reds it's a redundant switch.

I like blacks and greens and switch back and fourth through out the year

>>60110122
Not necessarily true. New mx blacks are smooth as fuck, but from personal experience, vintage mx blacks are godly smooth.

>>60107706
Holy shit i love that smol one on the left

>>60112075
I did try cherry and kailh, not gateron.

>>60112329
It's going to take a while for those to consistently be on the market though, stock needs to get used up first. Until then it'll be a gamble.

>>60112412
Also browns?

>>60112320
Gat browns are more pronounced, I can't tell you what they're like for typing yet since I still have to finish the board, but they seem more promising than cherry mx shit.

>>60112050
Gateron browns are fine, its the cherry ones that feel like shit.

cherry browns are shit because they have no bump, not because they're ``scratchy'', that's a fucking meme

smoothness is highly overrated

>>60112427
Cherry blue, red, black, green, brown and Kailh red, blue.

>>60112444
Try some gateron linears and compare them to cherry linears and then come back.

>>60112458
You still prefer cherry browns? I found them to feel like reds with dirt in the middle.

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>>60112471
>linears

>>60112471
Dirt in the middle is the best. Unlike linear I need to bottom out every time to make sure the switches is pressed.

cherry is only good as:
-62g clears
-62g vintage blacks
anything else is crap

>>60112520
Why not get something that's actually tactile like clears?

>>60112478
>Not liking various types of switches
What a pleb

>>60112594
clears are fucking trash

They sound nice on youtube, in person they are thumpy, mushy and heavy.

I prefer blues, or any switch thats high, light and clicky.

>>60112594
Not him, but there are very few good offerings with clears unless you build your own KB, which is something a random anon is unlikely to do unless they already have experienced several switches and know what they want.

>>60112594
Because brown is lighter.

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Just ordered these """black""" and purple motherfuckers from the KBDFans shopify site. Figured it was worth spending $5 extra over aliexpress, which was blocking my (perfectly fine) debit card for some reason.

>>60112676
looks pretty slick

>>60112641
There's not that many offerings with clears and they tend to be more expensive, but I think to say that there are "very few" is a bit of an overstatement. There's plenty of good manufacturers making boards with clears in the common form factors.

>>60112639
They're obviously heavy, but I don't see where you're getting the mushy from. They're about as tactile as cherry gets.

>>60112710
Huh, I guess my knowledge of clears is showing its age. Guess there are several (fairly unattractive) chinkshit boards with MX clears on newegg now. Like 4 years ago it felt like there were no options whatsoever, except maybe for the overpriced CODE keyboard.

>>60112795
I don't know of any chinkshit, unless you get something from memeforce off assdrop, but ducky, vortex and leopold all have offerings with clears last I checked.

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>>60112837
Yeah, I didn't either, but check out this top-tier $48 chinkshit: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAAZM45N9536&cm_re=cherry_mx_clear_keyboard-_-9SIAAZM45N9536-_-Product

The page claims it has clears, and there are several others around that price range on newegg that also claim to have clears.

>>60112874
That thing looks pretty atrocious, but it's nice (and pretty surprising) to see that you can get boards with clears for less than 50 bucks now. Cheers.

>>60112898
My thoughts exactly. It's a good time for mechanical keyboard newcomers, and the cherry clone market is finally having an impact on prices.

>>60112874
jfc that font

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>>60112910
I remember when the lolita spyder was the cheapest mech around a bit more than a year (or maybe it's two by now) ago. Seventy bucks for a TKL with kalih switches. Nowadays you can get boards for as cheap as 30, with gaterons starting at 40 or so. It's a great time to get into this inane hobby.

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>>60106447
The sound of a mechanical keyboard drives me insane. Someone at work has one and I literally just want to throw my monitor over at his desk each day.

I can't even imagine having one at home either, I got my entire system to be as quiet as I can get and to introduce something as loud as a A10 doing strafing runs on Muhammad and friends would just ruin it.

So I wanna replace my 5 year old QPAD-MK50.
I don't give a shit about fluff options like RGB backlights, media buttons or macros. Raw performance for a good price is where it's at.
My shitty country of Sweden has very few options aside from ordering online though.
A few considerations include:
>Mission SG GGK 3.1
>$85

>Corsair K65
>$152

>Logitech G413 Carbon
>$112

What does /mkg/ think? Suggestions?

>>60112961
My entry-level board was a rosewill with MX blacks that cost around $90 back then. I guess you can still get the RK-9000BL, but it would be terrible value these days.

On the other hand, my unicomp model M cost $85 3 years ago and hasn't changed in price, and I'd still consider it a very decent value.

I'd say that, in addition to the larger number of cherry-compatible switches and caps, the greater acessibility of laser cutting over the past couple years has brought about some great DIY case options.

>>60113023
Oh and

>red switches
>max budget about $150, even that is very pricy, easily affordable but it feels undeserved

>>60113018
Not all mechanical keyboards are lound. In fact, some are even quieter than most rubberdomes. But if you want to use your apple chiclet keyboard with 0.5mm of travel, then more power to you.

>>60113018
Then get a quiet mech. Not every mechanical keyboard is the same you dunce.

>>60113023
Skip that shit and get a Ducky from one of your sweddish sellers. I can't read swede but google translate says they are in stock

>>60113089
I'm a total scrub and I've only seen Ducky being mentioned here and there ever.
Sell me on it, what are they so good at?

>>60113018
Buy him a quieter mechanical keyboard.

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>>60113037
My first board was a cherry mx board 3.0 with browns, with the wrist rest it was 80 bucks. It's funny to think back of how I thought it was absurd to pay seventy bucks for a keyboard back when I bought it. My model m was 120 bucks with shipping, nearly half of that price being the damn shipping, I think the most I spent on a board so far was my shine 4 which I sold recently, with the import costs and shipping and doubleshot translucent pbt caps I got for it, it totals somewhere around 300 bucks.

I haven't tried anything in the direction of laser cutting yet, though I probably will once I get on to making some custom layout. I'm not a massive fan of sandwich-style cases, though alas, I am currently in the process of making one myself.

Now if only GMK sets would be available for a hundred or so I would be a happy man.

>>60113114
Ducky is one of the biggest mech sellers in the world, and are the only ones that have a dedicated nordic store called Ducky Nordic. That way if something goes wrong support channels are right next door. As far as their keyboards go they are verry solid and actually listen to the community and improve. The shine 3 for example was a piece of shit LED problems. The shine 4 used higher quality LEDs similar to corsair, then the shine 5 improved it even further while costing the same. Their new keyboards have steel construction solid polymers and keycaps that are on a whole other level compared to corsair and logitech. Plus they have nifty features like nkro over usb and programmable media keys and macros while having a mimimalistic look.

>>60113018
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1RqfqT3dl8T

a sonnet i wrote just for you

>>60113212
Okay, it sounds great, but it costs me over $200 for one.

Cherry MX are the worst type of tactile switch.

Why do people still buy them?

>>60113306
because I already have a model M

>>60113306
They're the mkst commonly available, understandably so since they're the best on the market from an OEM point of view.

>>60113306
Which one should people get then?

>>60113304
>>60113212
Actually there's also Ducky One at about $120 too.

>>60113304
Really? You guys have like 6 different stores and I can't read swede, but this should be around 150 bucks
https://www.inet.se/produkt/6100205/ducky-one-blue-led-mx-red-svart#specs

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>>60113340
Ducky One was my third mech keyboard, and I would absolutly recommend it. I'd skip the backlight and get the one with dye-sub PBT keycaps.

>>60113349
Yeah I first meant the Shine 5

https://www.maxgaming.se/gaming-tangentbord/ducky/one-black-blue-led-nordic-mx-black Interests me the most right now, not sure about blacks though, I'm very used to reds.

>>60113335
Buckling spring, Alps or even Topre

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Gateron yellow stems in cherry black housings with 62g springs. Talk me out of it (pls).

>>60113381
Blacks are just 15cN heavier then reds. Thats all

>>60113372
something about a full size keyboard makes me rock hard.

>>60113419
i think gateron stems don't fit cherry housings
62g springs feels great on linears

>>60106447
Am I an idiot for getting the corsair k70?

>>60113476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHLIjplHnc8
Seems to work.
I have no actual experience regarding it though.

I bought a Pok3r.

Did I do good?

>>60113571
Yes.

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Check out my WIP switch tester/case design practice

So what are your thoughts about the Corsair K70 Lux? I heard it has many led problems Im currently in a store and the type feeling feels amazing. 180 euro, it would be my first mechanic keyboard, yes or no?

>>60114102
Why? I like it quite a lot.

>>60106447
dose anyone know where i can find and buy The Amazing Chocolatier set, i want it so badly but i have no idea when it might be back on mass drop

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>>60111837
>Miami posting
allow me to instigate.

>>60114207
What you are about to do is the #1 mistake you can make with mechanical keyboards.
Go look up nicer keyboards online, learn about switch types, and don't impulse buy a shitty Corsair because its right in front of you like every other fucking shit normie.

>>60114317
I have a theory that everyone with miami caps hates themselves. Is that true?

>>60114207
For 180 eurobucks you should be able to get something better than that

>>60107626
you can never have enough dildos, anon

>>60114318
But I like my k70 :(

Browns are pretty lackluster imo... A vague unsatisfying middle ground between being linear and barely tactile. Like many people say, reds with dirt in them

Browns should be replaced with mx clears imo

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>>60114344
This is true
T. Miami poster

>>60114318
I did my research and I know people hate Corsair because of the gamer look and they seem to have led problems, I visited the market do feel them and I must say that the Corsair with red switches feels amazing to type on, I also thought about getting the Logitech G910 the typing is solid.

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going to buy this what do i expect? getting it with blank led overlay to hide the ugly ass logo of course.
>inb4 not IBM Model M 1391401 from ebay lol
>inb4 MUH BUILD QUALITY
fuck off. ebay sold listing prices for model ms are just as high as new Unicomp Classic from pckeyboard.com
build quality is inferior relative to older model ms, but really high for a modern mechanical keyboard

>>60112147
Reason why I'm set on linear is because I dislike the loudness of tactile switches like blues. And yeah, I bottom out reds.

>>60114247
>LED problems
>Retarded spacebar size limits you to garbage chinkshit replacement caps
>The stock caps suck ass
>Ugly gamer aesthetic
>Mandatory software to use any of its advanced features that's basically malware and is known to deliberately fuck with peripherals from competitors
>Low build quality
>High pricetag because casual gamers are retarded sheep and will throw their money away if you tell them it'll make them better at games

Pick your poison

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>>60114527
I've got one, it's pretty sweet but my membrane started fucking up after about 3 years of heavy use. (The 5 key and occasionally 'b' or something close don't register consistently). This seems to be a pretty rare occurrence, so it's kind of annoying that it happened to me. Fortunately, you can buy a new membrane for $10, but I haven't gotten around to doing that yet.

Anyway, that's my one complaint about it. Otherwise, it was great to type on and it's still clicky, heavy, and has nice caps. I'd buy a new unicomp over an old model M caked with cat hair and cigarette ash any day.

>>60114656
What about K65?

>>60114656
>No problems with LEDs yet
>Software is fie and works well.
>Don't give a shit about aesthetic
>Spacbar is fine?

I will give you that it was expensive. This was my first mechanical keyboard, and I didn't want to get into one where I couldn't feel the keys before buying.

It's OK if people like things that you don't anon.

>>60114689
would you say it is your favorite tactile keyboard?

>>60114527
>>60114689 here again

Thought I'd comment on
>really high for a modern mechanical keyboard
This really isn't the case. The build quality, apart from the weight, is fairly sub-par compared to modern mechanical keyboards. You can easily get something fullsize with an aluminum case for the same price. (I'd still say the unicomp's a good deal, but even I'd admit the case wasn't anything special). Not that it matters much since keyboard problems basically never stem from the case. If you're getting a model M, you should be buying it knowing full well that you're getting something for typing, not aesthetics or fancy features.

>>60114754
For sure, but I haven't used many other switch types for nearly as long. I like it more than MX blues and definitely more than MX browns. I'm working on building an MX clear board, but I bet I'll like it more than clears, too (the main reason I'm getting clears is because I want something fairly stiff and tactile that can still take MX caps/accessories).

>>60114609
Matias quiets

>>60114427
Where can I buy this? It looks beautiful

>>60114846
It looks autistic

>>60114876
I'm attractive enough where nothing looks autistic. Answer the question.

Lubed clears are the best switch, after fucking with everything from zeals to ergos and lubed clears are literally perfect. Put on a set of cherry profile caps and it's amazing

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Rate my keyboard.

>>60114689
How hard is it to find custom caps for it?

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Is the planck actually good for typing?

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>>60114773
>The build quality, apart from the weight, is fairly sub-par compared to modern mechanical keyboards.
disappointing to hear but not a deal breaker for me. thanks for the clarification

>If you're getting a model M, you should be buying it knowing full well that you're getting something for typing
pretty much. i already have memeboards to shitpost with see>>60114317 so sacrificing aesthetics for THE tactile keyboard is not an issue.
although keycap customization is nice, a mx tactile switch keyboard just aren't very good at producing tactile feedback im afraid.

here is a comparison between MX Clear and Buckling Spring

Clear is much more drawn out and not as nearly as succinct as the Buckling Spring.
but even the duration and intensity of tactility are preferential matters which can be debated

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>>60114944
It's basically impossible. Unicomp does sell plain white and legendless caps for it, though, so people have done some cool stuff with using dyes. See pic

>>60114344
Yes.
I don't hate my miami caps though

>>60114427
WHERE DO I BUY THIS?

>>60114912
How do you lube them? What is the best lube?

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>>60110789
Once upon a time, I posted this in an old keyboard thread.

So yep, keyboards.

>>60115136
I bet they help with learning to touch type since you won't want to look at your keyboard anymore.

>>60114317
w-where can i buy this beautiful keyboard? new to /mkg/.

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>>60115197
That is a magicforce 68 that you can find on amazon. The keycaps are NPKC Miami which are also on amazon or ebay

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>>60114885
>>60115140
That looks like any 60% keyboard that you can find, probably a KBP v60. Miami keycaps can fe found almost everywhere. tai-hao and npkc are the popular ones.

>>60115234
>also on amazon or ebay
Who's the seller? They all come from China. Is it legit?

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>>60115285
where do you think people buy these? They all come from china, and its legit

>>60115285
>amazon
i can confirm NPKC on amazon is legit. shipping is $15 to U.S via DHL. (came to my house less than 4 days)
amazon's a-to-z policy applies in this case so don't worry about ordering

>>60115320
So is this one legit? https://www.amazon.com/NPKC-Switches-Tenkeyless-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B06XG1CQZT/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_147_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=N300V15PDQKPQQD6FV9Z&th=1

Which one do I buy? 61, 87, or 104 keys?

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Vortex race 3
> Mx clears
> 75%
> DSA caps
> Goofy top row

Am i a genius or insane for pre ordering this?

>>60115351
Its legit. Basically its asking you want kind of keyboard are you gonna put these on. 60%, TKL, or full size. If you don't know what keyboard you are going to get then just buy the 104. If you have a corsair or logitech keyboard then don't bother

>>60115352
youre just like a normie i guess

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>>60115351
>So is this one legit?
yes
>Which one do I buy? 61, 87, or 104 keys?
i would buy 87 if your keyboard is TKL. (no numpad) buy 104 if your keyboard is full-sized

>>60115352
I can forgive the short right shift, and even the 1u bottom modifiers. But that top row is an instant no buy.

>>60115280
>>60115414
>>60115343
>>60115406
Thank you I'm new to keyboards, but what would you recommend for someone who does some gaming (singleplayer RPGs, emulators, etc., no competitive shit) and browsing?

Some guy earlier mentioned a KBP v60 and a magicforce 68

>>60115414
its not the real og miami

>>60115550
tai hao looks like dog shit, though

>>60115564
tai-hao isn't the og miami either

>>60115583
post og miami then dip shit

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Oh man look at all this 75% goodness. Fuck yes.
>>60115352
I'd cut off my cock for one of those.
>>60115320
HOW DID HE DO THE SPACE BAR LIKE THAT I WANT MIAMI NOPPOOOOO
>>60115280
Sold me on using a blue plate over silver on my upcoming build this fall.
>>60115234
miami is so nice

Miami guys if you like vidya as well as keyboards Zowie is selling a white eca-2 which is a really good mouse and will look so nice with miami. Ordering mine tomorrow I think.
I'm waiting on pic related to get here on tuesday. Anyone else waiting on packages?

>>60115592
not with that attitude. Maybe if you asked nicely
ctrlalt.io/buys/miami

>>60115617
looks terrible, npkc > tai hao > og shit

>>60115475
Magicforce is a great choice as it comes with many different switch options from cherry, gateron, and outemu. It comes in several form factors from 65, 75 and 100%, and are all cheap.

>>60115650
How does it compare to a razer black widow, for example? Because that's what I have, but I want to replace it since it's too big and quite frankly, looks ugly.

>>60115650
I bought the silver one and regret it. You're going to end up replacing the keycaps, so unless you are a supreme patrician and have 0 plans to buy new caps get the black version. The base looks nice with just about every set of caps, even white ones. The silver just doesn't look very good irl.
I also reget not buying the backlit version but the value is found in the gateron non-backlit versions

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>>60115637
Except those are in OEM profile. The original miami was in cherry. As far as keycaps go all OEM profile ones are automatically shit.

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>>60115475
im this fag >>60114317 i recommend magicforce with gateron red or gateron clear (same as mine) for long session rpg gaymen, although light linear switches are great for fast-paced competitive games and FPS in general too (i.e. CSGO, OW, osu!, Subnautica, Minecraft, etc.)
>emulators
you really should use a controller for old school emulation

Be Aware: Gateron Clear actuates at 30g, not 35g. They can be really really light for some people from the get-go.

>>60106447
>be a germanfag
>want to buy a mechkeyboard
>the only shit german stores and amazon offer are "gaymer" shit like Razer, Roccat, Corsair
>want to buy a Vortex Poker 3 RGB with MX Red
>search online even on ebay
>lol nothing avaible

Fuck this shit I'm tempted to buy a gamer shitboard, this is hell.

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>>60115686
Magicforce has a metal body, but the stock keycaps suck. Though it seems like you are going to replace them anyway. The magicforce 82 is my favorite, but the 68 is more readily available. The gateron switches will be smoother then your old black widow.

>>60115713
Buy it abroad? Fucking idiot

https://www.amazon.de/Vortex-KBC-poker-Ultra-kompakte-Hintergrundbeleuchtung/dp/B01M02U374/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1493405006&sr=8-7&keywords=pok3r+rgb+mx

Also I just found what you wanted.

>>60115713
lol you guys have candykeys, and cheap $5 cherry keyboards, so go fuck yourself.

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what's better, MX blues or Gateron Blues, currently have a full keyboard of reds , I got this keyboard for free and I absolutely hate reds but free is free, ive been modding it little by little and I got a switch tester and after I bought new LEDs for it and soldered them in (it had over 30 dead white LEDs and I bought blue chink LEDs and made a stripe pattern) I like blues the best and eventually got bored and soldered in the switches from the switch tester, The different feels for it is very nice (put them on keys commonly pressed like Shift and enter and space etc)

pic related

>>60115713
https://www.candykeys.com/product/pok3r-black-pbt-mx-clear-ansi/
How did you miss the best one?

>>60115693
>>60115727
Thanks guys, I intend to switch the caps with the Miami NPKC ones. But that being said, I have no idea which Magicforce to get.
>>60115687
If I buy a magicforce and replace it with Miami NPKC, which one should I get?

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>>60115775
The 68 is the cheapest one and can be found on amazon. There are others, but you have to jump through hoops or proxys to get them.

>>60115713
>be germanfag
>can literally walk next door to Cherry factory and ask for custom keyboard
>lol nothing available
???

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>>60115762
keys aswell (if anyone was interested, although switched the MX blue [space] and Razer Orange [ESC] ) yeah I didn't expect to get those in my switch tester but those chinks are full of surprises, they are also legit Razer so I guess it's cool to have

>>60115690
This is the only acceptable miami keyset. fact

>>60115791
Black or silver? If I get the 68 one, which key cap set should I buy if I'm going with the Miami NPKCs? Because the only options I see, include, 61 keys, 87 keys, and 104 keys. No 68 keys.

>>60115690
>As far as keycaps go all OEM profile ones are automatically shit.
can you elaborate? OEM profile is just taller Cherry profile right? if both are made with same high quality material with same thickness, I can't see why one is better than the other.

>>60115814
Miami would go better with silver. Get the 87 keys, you'll have a few extra keys left over.

>>60115804
Hm not a bad idea, marking important keys with different switches.

>>60115814
>black or silver
preference
>If I get the 68 one, which key cap set should I buy if I'm going with the Miami NPKCs?
you'll end up with extra keycaps but you have to buy the 87 or 104 keys for Magicforce 68

>>60115822
Its not just the height, but also the angle, edges, curves, etc. It doesn't appear in pictures, but there is a huge difference.

>>60115837
thank you, it's also very nice for different feels while typing but it's dulled down alot because of the stabilizers , alot different then the regular keycaps size

>>60115852
>>60115835
All right, thanks guys. Also, which type? I'm browsing the Amazon page (Qisan, I think), and I'm seeing shit like "Brown Switch," "Blue Switch," "Backlit."

Which ones the best for someone like me? Some gaming (RPGs, single player games, browsing the web, etc.), and do the Miami NPKC work with backlight or no?

>>60111717
"Tactile" is the new "tactical"
What a gaylord subject to become an enthusiast about. Almost-cancer thread.

>>60111717
How about Steel Series QS1?

>>60114436
>I did my research
>K70
>Logitech G910
Yeah you didn't do shit and you're a normie so REE to you and go to r/mk with your purchase

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>>60115899
All keycaps will work with a backlight, but the light won't shine through the center of them. It would be like pic related. As far as switches go I went with cherry blues and I'm enjoying them. They are medium weight switches with a loud click. The tactile feedback on them is okay, but if you don't like how the sound then consider gateron browns. Personally I don't like linear switches, but maybe you do. Since these keyboards are so cheap, and you are ordering from amazon you could buy several then return the ones you don't like.

>>60115981
What are linear switches? Also, I don't mind the sounds of mechanic keyboards. In fact, I actually like them.

>>60115693
>>60114317
Yo, fag-kun, I really like your keyboard. Thanks for answering my questions. What mouse and mouse pad do you use?

>>60115996
Linear switches means there is no tactile feedback. Rubber domes are tactile for comparison. Clicky switches just mean that there is an audible click in addition to the tactile feedback. I'd recommend you walk into a big box store and at least try out the blues, browns, and reds that most of them have. If you think they are too light then consider getting heavier switches. If you think they are too heavy then there are lighter ones.

Just got my FC660C. Hooooly fuck. This is it. I'm done.

>>60115899
>which type?
depends on your budget. the $39.98 ones, labeled as with "Brown Switch", "Blue Switch", etc, are non-back lit and use OUTEMU brand switches. the perimeter of the aluminum top housing is also not shiny in these ones.
the $62.99 ones are what i recommend since they are single colored back-lit, have shiny edges, and use Gateron switches. Gateron makes the smoothest mx linear switches right now. good for gaymen.
not sure about other priced magicforce 68s since i've only bought the two above

>>60107188
Underrated

>>60116054
Budget? Probably under $100.

>>60115130
>taking a picture of keyboard on the grass

What a fucking faggot.

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>>60115130
I know that unicomp does sell colored keycaps, and can do custom printing. I don't know if they stopped doing that though.

>>60116090
It's astroturf and outdoor lighting is best.

>chinks have cloned topre and created new hall effect switches
>they haven't moved on to cloning buckling springs yet

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>>60116123
they did tho

>>60116110
http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/PRK

I think this is what you are talking about.

Is "single unit wide" a standard letter sized key?

>>60116134
shame it's in a retarded layout and expensive as fuck

the organiser seems like he's not going to allow more model f clones after this production run

>>60115140
Massdrop just did a drop, they're also on Aliexpress.

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>>60116141
I think so. I never bothered, but I've seen people online with blue or green modifiers on their SSKs

What are the best gateron switches to purchase?
Anyone have a chart?

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>>60114846
>>60114436
Its a poker 2 with npkc miami, both can be found on amazon

>>60116259
they are all pretty good. it depends on your preferences

>>60116301
That's the thing, though. I don't know what my preferences are since I don't know the differences.

>>60116134
That isn't a Model F reproduction. That's Snoopy's powdercoated original kishsaver

>>60116357
Yes it is, retard

Wat happened with Miami Dolche keysets?

>>60116396
You really just called me a retard when you were fucking WRONG?

LOL

Read this you sack of shit
https://deskthority.net/photos-f62/kishsaver-photothread-t7483-30.html

>>60116396
No it isn't
https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/brand-new-f62-kishsaver-f77-industrial-model-f-s-made-this-year-t11046-480.html

>>60116450
You're completely wrong. Read the article again, imbecile. Of course you think I'm wrong, since you have piss poor reading comprehension.

>>60116476
Are you trolling or just stupid?
That is an original Kishsaver that was powdercoated black.
My guess is you were serious before because you honestly thought that was a reproduction, so much so you decided to try and call me a retard for saying otherwise. Then when I proved your ass wrong and humiliated you like the bitch you are you try and play it off as trolling

Pathetic.

>>60116476
The case is powdercoated in RAL 7021 (matt). It was done by a local company. They also removed the old paint.

The keycaps are blank black from unicomp. (Only available in ansi).
The clickclack is depth black.

Sadly no sunlight here today... so no pics today... I need a lightbox or something like that.

- Snoopy

>>60116500
Whatever you say, retard. That is not a Kishsaver.

>>60116519
lol it is.

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>>60116519
Yes it is LMAO, you really shouldn't be in a mechanical keyboard thread, you're clueless.

Here's another KISHSAVER :D

>>60116540
Retard. Clearly different. Get your eyes checked, yeah?

>>60116575
what is so important about being right on the internet to you?

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>>60116575
I think someone's a little upset over getting humiliated.

It looks different because it had been powdercoated and the underlying flippers were in different locations you sperg.

Here's my 4704-107 the Kishsavers bigger brother. But wait... It must be a reproduction too because the case is black right?

Idiot.
>>60116585
He clearly has raging autism

>>60116585
>>60116601
stop bullying me

>>60116601
>He clearly has raging autism
everyone posting here does

>>60116601
>tfw no capacitive buckling spring with normal layout and compact case

>>60116663
that f107 is the closest you're gonna get

>>60116692
i feel like it could have been more popular if he didn't stick so rigidly to the original model f design

>>60115822
>if both are made with same high quality material with same thickness
Well here's the first problem, they're not. All manufacturers of OEM profile caps just make cheap, thin crap like Tai-hao.

>>60116782
Definitely, if you wanted standard layout capacitive buckling spring you should've gotten in on the Model M/F group buy. Basically Model F internals in a standard Model M or Model M SSk case. Hopefully mine should arrive this year.

What's the best? Gateron Brown, Red, or Clear?

What are the differences?

>>60116808
wait, is that the same gb with that has mx stem compatibility?

>>60116320
Blues and greens have resistance that increases just before actuation then sharply decreases after actuation, also they make a clicking noise on actuation
Browns have a slight increase in resistance before actuation and a slight decrease after
Blacks, yellows, reds and clears all have smooth, even resistance all the way down until you hit the bottom

>>60116832
never mind, ignore me - it was something else I saw on deskthority

>>60113018
Retards thinking all mechs sound like Cherry MX Blues

>>60116832
That has been brought up in the M/F threads but I'm pretty sure there's seperate topics on that
This is the group buy page

https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/model-mf-drop-in-kit-for-converting-the-ibm-model-m-into-an-f-t15091-900.html

>>60116888
Thanks anon, I'm going to keep an eye out on that model mf thread and will probably buy in if and when phase 2 gets announced

>>60116120
It's not astroturf (obviously cut with a lawnmower and includes clover), but it's also not my picture so I don't care if the photographer is called a faggot.

I get around 100 wpm with a shitty laptop keyboard. Would that increase with a Gateron switch?

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>>60116053
Yeah man, love my FC660C. Shits all over cherry.

>>60117064
I increased my wpm with Topre immediately.

>>60117064
Scissor switches are actually quite fast because of the low travel. They're just hell on your tendons over time.

new thread get in here fa/g/s

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>>60116888
Holy shit how did I not see this sooner?
The only reasons I haven't bought one of the new Fs are the outdated layout and case design.

>>60115981
wish more boards used this layout

>>60116444
I mean can you just get it over massdrop?

>>60114121
Neat, but why not cram another key in there?

>>60117064
Don't think so but I think mechanical keyboards are just more pleasant to type with. Kinda like writing with a fountain pen instead of a ballpoint pen.