/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

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First for premium cup rubber.

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>>60087860
>>60087837
I want something fullsize and I fucking hate the meme layout of the FC980C.

If picture related was available in topre I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

>>60088031
whats wrong with noppoo topre clones?

Any good keysets I can order from Aliexpress?

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>>60087941
Why not have rubber and buckling springs?

>>60088077
Anything from KBPfans

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The last couple of threads have been pretty boring. Let's talk /g/uys. What things have you been interested inn and looking at?

I just ordered my first third party key set and now I'm looking into 75% boards with standard keys and DIY boards. I want to build my dream keyboard, lay out similar to Noppoo choc mini, rgb's in the case and behind the keys just because, black aluminum case, GMK hydro.
Any keysets or boards that have caught your eye lately?

>>60088031
Fuck you 1800 layout and its variants is best layout
>all the functionality of a fullsize
>aesthetically pleasing gaps that help locate different key clusters
>only slightly bigger than a TKL

>>60087979
How do you like the M9 compared to other pistols?

Also are you rish as fuck or something to own all those funs

>>60088065
I don't know much about them to be honest.

Is the white/gray 108EC-Pro the only model available or is there more? I don't exactly dig that aesthetic(or rather, it's fine, but it fits exactly nothing else I own and that's gonna trigger me every time I look at my desk)

>>60088145
I want a FC980C with the controller, silenced MX stems, and an Al case. I've been such a fan of my CP-SQ at work that I'd like to merge it with my Novatouch for home. However it doesn't seem like stem replacement is fully viable yet - the ones you can buy require some drilling for the stabilised keys, and you're completely boned with the space bar I hear. I don't know how soon (if ever) an Al case would come about, either.

Maybe someday.

As for caps, I want to see what kind of colourways will come out for MT3. I think the feel of SA matches that of Topre pretty well, so I'd be plum tickled to see something interesting come out in high-profile spherical PBT with decent legends.

>>60087812
topre is the meme of memes

if you aren't ready to spend that kind of money then stick to cherries or something. i have to admit that topre seems nice looking at/listening to those videos but they require a decently large budget to get what you want out of them.

>>60088363
there's the RGB version with all white caps

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Noppoo-new-108-electrostic-capacitive-pro-mechanical-keyboard-topre-clone-switches-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap-detachable/818123_2039433313.html

but i would recommend getting thick PBT keycaps in whichever colors you prefer to replace the stock ones. you can get a set for like $20-40.

>>60088363
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/RC930-104-electrostatic-capacitive-pro-full-mechanical-keyboard-topre-clone-55g-45g-switches-gaming-keyboard-RGB/818123_32600997780.html

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So this meme is now cheap on aliexpress. Anyone here bought them?

>>60088656
>Sorry, this item is no longer available!
whoops

maybe wait for this assdrop

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/royal-kludge-rc930-87

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>>60088656

>Sorry, this item is no longer available!

>>60088261
>>>/k/

>>60088656

https://www.banggood.com/RK-RC930-104-Keys-Electrostic-Capacitive-Programable-Gaming-keyboard-45g-55g-for-Your-Choi-p-979481.html

Why the fuck is it still so expensive if it's a fucking copy???

>>60088728
capacitive sensors are expensive m8, but that keyboard used to be 100 bucks
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1433

>>60087913
I can't seem to find any mechanical keyboards for an honest price that aren't marketed for gaymurs who easily get memed.

Are there any minimal mechanical keyboards, preferably knockoff Cherry, around 50 dollars, wireless, with low as possible resistance that a very kind and compassionate soul can find for me?

>>60088728
it's niche and it's relatively expensive to make. a cherry switch just has a physical metal on metal connection. this is capacitive like the touchscreen on your smartphone.

>>60088758
RK61 is 50 bucks with genuine cherry mx switches
https://world.tmall.com/item/526177787602.htm#detail?skuId=3202059279717

>>60088794

are there any cheaper ones without the gay little lights?

>>60088826
rk61 without the lights

hey guys, new here.

Just picked up the KUL cherry MX brown. also bought some blue dampener rings off amazon that will be arriving soon.

I'm kinda bummed all the other switches were sold out from KUL, does anyone feel that red switches would be superior? Looking for extreme speed and dexterity.

Love the form factor on this though, the design and build is flawless IMO

any cases that fit TADA?

>>60088847
I found mx reds to be really shitty, my typing suffered from them.
I'm using gateron reds now and they're much better.

>>60089442
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-anode-aluminum-high-Profiles-made-in-china/2230037_32790357144.html

There are other places to buy them for cheaper, like Taobao if you wanna try with the Chinks:

https://world.taobao.com/item/537653557670.htm?fromSite=main

>>60089442
This one, but only the read and blue ones are in stock
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/why_the_fuck_do_you_need_another_case/32790357144.html
The RS68 case should also fit.

>>60089489
>why_the_fuck_do_you_need_another_case
lol nice. but seriously why do you need one? did you scratch the old one or something?

>>60089464
why do you feel the reds are better? will my mx brown improve with the o ring dampeners?

I looked up a red gateron and they dont seem too expensive...

>>60088704
THICC

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>>60089556
Thats not thick
this is THICC

>>60089566
SHEEEEEIT

>>60089524
red cherries are super light and it's very easy to miss-press either through your own shitty typing or because your headphone cable brushes a key.

the gateron reds feel better.
they're still a light linear switch but they feel smoother and more predictable.
I've never owned browns.

>>60088794
No cursor keys / ins del print pause?
Dealbreaker. Sorry but thanks for looking.

>>60088672
I feel like I would regret this so much about one day after trying to use them.

>>60089566
FUCK that must cost like $5.63/cap

>>60089653
>print pause
really nigga

>>60089726
>at home checkin twitter
>spill malt liquor all over myself
>hit the pause key to pause my computer while i go change

>>60089753
lol what

anyway you're being too picky for $50 for a wireless mechanical keyboard

>>60089653
Here you go!
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/stop_being_so_vague_you_fag_how_the_fuck_was_I_supposed_to_know_that_when_all_you_said_was_Are_there_any_minimal_mechanical_keyboards_If_you_were_more_specific_then_I_would_have_been_better_able_to_find_the_keyboard_you_were_looking_for/32806731494.html

What's the low down on MX Clear switches?

Good or too damn heavy?

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>>60089795
best switches cherry has ever made

>>60089790
there are compact keyboards with int del print pause and cursor keys tucked in boi, you showed me one that was even more compact than that

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What's a good cheap solution to make my keyboard bluetooth?

>>60089814
But none of those are $50 bucks, also you never asked for that. Maybe if you said that from the start I would've told you to up your budget, or drop the wireless requirement.

>>60089814
so you want a 75% layout, maybe 65%. those are more niche and i'd be surprised if you could find a good one or one at all that's wireless for $50

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>>60089818
An adapter
http://handheldsci.com/kb
But you have to be fast
>Price: $39. Due to high demand, this product is currently out of stock. Our April 1st production was sold out in one week. We expect it be back in stock on May 1, 2017. We appreciate your patience.

>>60089800
That guide is confusing as fuck but I'm new to mech keys so maybe it's just me

>>60089800
>sold by a scammer
is he literally a scammer or more of a snake oil salesman?

Waiting for EliteKeyboards to get Realforce 87u-55s in white/gray back in stock is suffering.

Too bad the only other option is massively overpaying on eBay. Fuck.

>>60089845
>buy Beaglebone Black
>add wifi adapter and USB hub
>get mouse/KB/speaker Bluetooth device that can switch hosts via TCP commands through Ethernet

>>60089897
Neither - the 4chan label I think most closely applies is "jew", because it's just expensive is all.

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First MK
>budget
Midrange ($100- $175)
>location
Northeast U.S.
>switch type
Based on the imgur pic in the template I think I want Cherry MX Clear but, this is my first mk so take me to school
>layout
ANSI
>form factor
Tenkeyless or 75% (though I know they're rare)
>backlit
Yes but, only white. No colors. If there exists clear lettered keys so the lettering only shows up when backlit that would be really cool but I don't expect them to.

>>60089897
>>60090044
I think that its more to do with how he said he'll fix the problem of wobbly switches, but after what 5 rounds they still aren't fixed. Last September he said that this round will be the one, but I don't believe him.

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>>60090072
magicforce has one for 80 bucks
There is the vortex race

>>60090074
All cherry-style switches wobble to some extent. Did he say he would improve it, take orders based on this premise, then it turned out he did nothing when people got the product? I got in on R1 so I stopped following it.

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>>60090103
That's pretty much what happened. Though thanks to him gateron can't make cherry clear clones.

>>60090044
>>60089897

He forces Gateron not to create Gateron Purple/Old Clears, then sells them himself at a way higher margin than normal Gateron switches. And he constantly releases "revisions" to deal with key wobble, which doesn't actually address the issue, but makes his stupid fanbase buy more Zealios.

>>60090102
This looks awsome. Does it come in black?

>>60089726
kek

>>60090126
Where's the part where he said R2 (to which I assume your image refers) has "fixed" keywobble? I'm actually curious my man.

And you'll find no empathy from me about the exclusivity thing.

>>60090072
You absolutely need a Cherry test board. Describing the feeling of each switch in words is worthless. I almost bought a keyboard with Cherry browns because it sounded like something I'd like. Luckily I decided to buy a tester board first and found that I hated the way browns felt. I ended up preferring Cherry blacks.

>>60090139
I assume you mean black keycaps since the keyboard is black, but the answer to that is no. You'll have to buy separate black keycaps. There are all black 75% keyboards, but none of the ones I found had clears. Just the magicforce and race

>>60090176
i got blues and they were exactly like i imagined them

>>60090188
What about the weight? I was surprised by how light they were.

>>60089795
Gateron Clear is Jesus' preferred switch.

>>60090195
no i had already read that they're light

>>60087979
Nice my man

>>60090135
>makes his stupid fanbase buy more Zealios
>makes
I have no pity for the mentally disabled.

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>>60087913
I had to scratch an autistic itch I had an hour ago, so I designed a new keyboard layout to market to Power Users™ and meme up the price.

The philosophy is, essentially, to have a fully function fullsize keyboard compressed into a single rectangle without spaces and making some minor adjustments.

Explain to me how and why this is either worth manufacturing or completely autistic shartware.

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>>60090173
The image refers to R4 actually, but hopefully R5 will have all these problems fixed. What I really want is for gateron to sell cherry clear clones

>>60090256
He doesn't even say that he's gonna fix it in that post.

A friend of mine just got a Gateron Black keyboard, he let me get first crack at it to compare it against my MX Black keyboard. Tons of people say the MX Blacks are gritty especially compared to Gateron but i'm just not feeling it. They feel really close to me besides the Gateron being slightly lighter feeling.


Also the quality on these off brand chink boards is impressive. Outside of some tacky branding this MXX board is outstanding

>>60090180
>>60090176
Appreciate the help and yea, I'm getting a key tester. Even after after I decide what I like apparently they're just fun to play with.

>>60090251
What the FUCK is up with that right control? Also just stick with the lightsaver layout.

>>60090283
>my MX Black keyboard
Which is?

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What youll think

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>>60090251
you can go even smaller. If you really wanted you could add function keys ontop, but I wanted to stay in the same space as a 60% keyboard

>>60090251
the keys are too nonstandard. you can have 1.75u right shift and maybe 1.5u/1.0u bottom row modifiers and that's it. there are already similar layouts like on masterkeys pro m anyway.

>>60090283

MX Blacks will smooth out with use. How long have you used yours? Mine that I've used for a year and a half are noticeably smoother.

>>60090176
which kit did you buy for the testing? using browns now and Im thinking I may be in the same boat

>>60090355
Being it's a compassion of switches it doesn't really matter but my current board is a Leopold

>>60090376
I don't remember my board being scratchy when I get it though.


Right now i'm collecting vintage Cherry Blacks for a custom TKL board i'm gonna build but i'm gonna put a heaver spring in them and lube them.

>>60090356
Wrist rests are objectivity bad for you, besides that I really like it

>>60090358
Is that some honeywell colourway?

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This is so close to being perfect, just needs ducky style media keys above the numbpad to be perfect. Well also needs more switch selection.

Wish another company would take a stab at this layout

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>>60090279
Yes he does. Anyway this one was for R4.5 after R4 was still more wobbly then normal gateron switches.
If you just look through his reddit comments you can see multiple times where he addresses the wobble issue and that he is working for a solution to the next round.

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>>60090468
yeah I got bored

>>60090528

>some "designer" on reddit makes a honeywell scheme
>redditors get butthurt because one of their own already made a honeywell scheme
>no one realizes the "original redditor" just took it from honeywell corp in the first place

keycap colorway drama retards

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>>60090558
Really. Well then I should start copying honeywell so that I can have an army of idiots defending me.

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>on the fence about spending $200+ on keycaps
>see that they added blanks

well there goes the last reason I had for holding out, that blank homing-deep-dish key

>>60090431
maybe your cherry blacks were manufactured quite some time ago and they're not the same as the ones they're making now

so since that other anon left I guess...is there such a thing as the "best" test kit? if I'm spending money on a goddamn mock keyboard it better be top shit lol

>>60091096
there are plenty of test kits on aliexpress
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170426190903&SearchText=cherry+tester

>>60091096
>the "best" test kit
All the switches wired into Beaglebone Black GPIO and set up to play a clip of the mechanical properties and history of the switches you push. Then mass produce them and sell them to Best Buy or hipsters.

>>60090356
bottom

>>60090356
top

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Welp fuck yall, I went ahead and blew half my tax return on this monstrosity with gross colors and nonstandard keys
But
>clears
>DSA caps
>compact 75% layout

Pretty much my dream combo so I couldn't resist. Figure I can always change the keycaps if I REALLY want to r-right

>>60090327
Right control is stepped, similar to the caps lock key if you look carefully.
This is to make the caps lock key a smaller button while still filling in the space between it and A so that A is in a more comfortable position for the ring finger.

>>60091396
Good luck finding del and esc keys that fit that layout. It seems like you're stuck with DSA if you want a keyboard that'll look completely correct.

>>60091396
Looks like a Babby Learns How To Type playset.

>>60090358
This is cool and all, but I wouldn't want my divide key in the middle of the keyboard when the other operators are on the numpad.

At some point you have to strike a balance between not compact and asinine compact.

>>60090356
That there's a good chance you don't type.

>>60091446
That's okay, one of the reasons I like it is because it comes with DSAs
I agree the top row is kinda wonky tho

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okay /mkg/ I'm building a new gaming computer when Vega comes out but I recently broke the feet of my keyboard by pressing too hard

don't worry she was 8 years old. still works fine though

what keyboard do I get to replace it? I do more gaming than large amounts of typing. suggestions? please?

>$125 budget
>USA country
>not sure what type of switch preferred - suggestion? - i've heard black is best for gaming
>ISO
>full size keyboard
>yes for backlight
>currently have Saitek Eclipse II with broken feet

>>60091417
>Right control is stepped, similar to the caps lock key if you look carefully.
I understand that, but why not just have a gap?

>>60091537
you shouldn't have the feet folded out anyway. but it's about time you upgrade to a mechanical keyboard. you'll have more options with ANSI instead of ISO. ANSI is much better anyway. also with a smaller keyboard you'll have more room to move the mouse.

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>>60091550
OCD.

You think I want my keyboard to look like this picture?

>>60091655
Your analogy doesn't make sense, but whatever, I understand that it's irrational.

>>60091537
As far as I know only WASD sells ISO keyboards in the country that invited ANSI.

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>>60090475
Is this layout better or worse?

>>60091678
L I G H T S A V E R

>>60091690
L O O K S L I K E S H I T
Not traditional enough

>>60091678
If you like that layout why not get a AMG96 PCB then build it yourself

>>60091678
You could get any korean 96 key keyboard like the ZZ96, RS96, lightsaver, etc. if you want that layout. though your nav cluster sucks.

>>60091655
that's the most evil floor tiling i've ever seen

>>60087913
recommended mice? no "gamer" mice please, i am not going to register an account with a cloud service to turn off an LED

>>60092149
Ducky Secret

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Please god talk me out of this.

>>60092149
Zowie have literally no software at all, DPI changes are done on the mouse itself and once the drivers install you don't need anything else.

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Massdrop has this ugly thing for $30.00 after shipping. Does anyone know of a good six button alternative? The only other similar thing I could find was the MAX-FALCON-8 but that one has a silly looking open bottom.

>>60092216
why 5?

>>60092263
I want one of them but bluetooth, I know mass drop has one but its 100 bucks. Still might do it

>>60092263
y tho

>>60088261
most firearms aren't that expensive.

>>60092269
Because autism and the way they setup the kits you need add ones. I could do with 3 kids and cover everything but I also want the RGB mod keys. But the base kit doest have F5-F8 in the beige so it be a mix of RGB and the blue keys. My autism can't deal with it.

This is gonna lead me to buy a full size keyboard with MX greens for the complete retro styling. A ducky or one of them all metal IQKB that pop up on mass drop all the time.

FUCKING KILL ME

>>60092339
Looks like your autism will do that for you.

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>>60092263
Should've gone for a RAMA M10-A

>>60092375
>RAMA

Prove to me this isn't the memeist meme on /g/

Why the hell does it matter?

CLACK CLACK CLACK

>>60092453
My mechanical keyboard is almost silent

>>60092339
anon save yourself the anguish and get a whole different keyboard and keycaps for a more reasonable price

>>60092453
a true /g/entooman spends all his time at the computer. why wouldn't you want the tool best suited for the task that you're doing?

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>fully programmable
>RGB meme
>hot-swappable
>USB Type-C
>Aluminium Case
Is this good?

taobao/item.htm?id=549204234466

>>60092702
Your answer is on the keyboard.

>>60092702
for what use case? i'm guessing you're a phoneposter since you care about usb type c

imo you'd be better off with a magicforce 68 with gaterons and thick pbt keycaps

>>60090356

meme mouse, meme keyboard, horrid color matching (in both actually, red spacebar version is only slightly worse).

And then because it's not all cheap looking enough, you had to add that wooden "wrist rest" (which actually feels fucking horrible for the wrists because it's so small and has straight edges so you end up resting your hands on the edge, having them dig into your forearm) thinking it's somehow automatically stylish because it's wooden. Not only does its color and texture not go with your hardware, but it's actually fucking mismatched with your desk as well.

Good fucking job retard. You got cash for meme keyboards and ludicrously expensive plastic keycaps, but it seems cash can't buy taste.

>>60092840
that's a bit harsh yo. personally i'd drop the wrist rest but otherwise i like it

>>60092375
>the much hyped online configurator is literally broken
>official advice is just flash standard QMK because they fucked up so hard
K E K

i wish that mechanical numpad wast fucking ugly as shit

Whats a good program to rebind keys in Windows? I got a Magic Force 68 and would like to change the page up and down keys to volume up and down. Yeah I know it has a Fn keys for it but I'd rather have dedicated keys for it

Whats a good source for keycaps? You got some that are fairly cheap and some that are insane amounts of money. While I get why PBT is better is the rest of it just hipster hype?

So i got my tada and the leds shine through a few keycaps even in the lowest brightness setting. Its only visible in the dark but its annying. What to do?

>>60091673
>>60091606
Sorry, double-checked and I got ISO confused with ANSI. You're right though, ANSI is what I prefer. What keyboard is a good choice for me? I really have no idea.

>>60093216
autohotkey

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Gateron tactile clear when

where are you finding them for 80 bucks?

>>60093009

Hey, maybe I get triggered when I see someone spend way too much on keycaps for aesthetics alone, but has no idea what he's doing. Can't blame me.

>>60093097

pick and choose man:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/numpads

>>60093686
When someone pays up for a clear-like mold for Gateron. Zeal's too much of a jew to let them use the existing mold to make affordable products that wouldn't make him as much money as his ~ultra-premium~ switches.

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>>60092840

It's not a wrist rest. It's angled to match the slope of the case, at the front it's barely a 1/4 inch off my desk. My wrists don't rest on it, when I'm typing I don't even use it. It's there to rest my palms.

>>60090072
I'm not really sure Magicforce comes with MX Clears.
I got a Ganss 87 with clears for some 90$. get some custom keycaps with the rest of the money if you don't like the ones that come with the board.

why do people get backlit keyboards like nigga look at the screen hahha like nigga you dont need sight to type

>>60092375
>literally just a reprogrammable numpad
defeats the point.
6-8 keys is the sweet spot.

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>>60094077
Just set up another fn layer on your fully programmable keyboard or get a proper numpad (which is also fully programmable). That rama thing is retarded since not only does it not constitute a proper numpad, it's not even plate mounted. What's the point of putting something in a solid aluminium case if you're not even going to plate mount the switches.

>>60090356
I like bottom cuz bluefan. Is there a name for that keycap set, or is it custom?

>>60094155
dunno, I have a few fn layers but I ordered a falcon 8 for easy volume/media control and some macros.

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thought?
https://world.taobao.com/item/549612379770.htm
https://world.taobao.com/item/549508732565.htm
https://world.taobao.com/item/549582306931.htm

>>60092263
Just make ur own with a $2.50 chink nano 3.0, <$0.01 diodes, switches of your choice, and oh shit still no cheap to make a case and mounting plate in 2017

>>60094190
too many keys, just use fn layers

Any other good retro/used/cheap boards than the IBM model M?

>>60094077
>>60093026
The online configurator thing was an idiotic idea, yeah. Fortunately the macro pad is pretty solid quality. Got mine and the on board memory functions great, can just move around the house plugging the macro pad into whichever computer I happen to be drawing at and get to work.

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I took a pic of how I use my RAMA M10-A with my Surface Pro 4 for you guys. Figure someone here may get a kick out of it.

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>>60094469
Wouldn't you want to keep it closer to where you're drawing?

Also why isn't it plate mounted? Even cheap chinkshit has plate mounted switches.

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do any of you know what kind of keyboard is that? The coiled cable and absent windows keys show that it could be old enough to be mechanical
it's not my pic

>>60090126
Are these even a big deal now that Cherry has fixed it's stems?

>Forcing myself to to touch type for the last 3 weeks
>still faster and more accurate with hunt and peak

oh god please help me

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So I wanna build my own for the first time, and I want to do something with Gateron Yellows, but I'm getting some mixed signals on whether I should use the stock housings, or put them in Cherry black housings.
I don't really have experience with this, so does anybody have some input?
My current idea was just lubed Gateron yellows, but I've heard they wobble a lot.

>>60092840
>meme mouse
Kill you're are self. G500 is GOAT.

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>>60095047
Gaterons wobble so much that the slider constantly leaves the housing, you'll have to use glue if you want to use the stock housings

>>60088077
>>60088112
https://kbdfans.aliexpress.com/store/2230037

>>60095106
So, using cherry housings would fix that problem?
And does it have to be black housings, or would any cherry switch do?
I just like the fact that Gateron housings are transparent, does anything like that exist for Cherry?

is topre a meme?

>>60095047
>Gateron Yellows

I still say they are so close to blacks that they are redundant, fairly sure Gateron feels the same way since they seem to be discontinued. Also Gateron is over hyped, they wobble and have inconsistent springs

>>60095147
Well I've tried one on one blacks vs yellows and yellows are nicer I think. I was considering swapping both housing and springs desu.

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https://www.keyclack.com/groupbuy/zkwR1

Holy shit yes.

>>60095164
compared yellow to what? New cherry blacks? Compare them to MX Blacks that have been in use for a while then get back to me. Also Cherry has redone their stems to not need a break in anymore.

>>60095194
>$25 for 4 artisan meme + case
not bad

>>60095223
>not bad
what happened to /g/

>>60095223
I think it may be 25 per cap but if the group buy is 25 for all holy shit.

>>60095217
Gateron Yellow with Gateron Blacks.
Any Gateron stem is so much smoother than its Cherry counterpart in my experience. I've tried new and well worn Cherry Reds but they are not very good.

>>60095194
Why are you shilling your shitty kickstarter?

>>60095231
>Siege Bundle Pack includes all 4 ZKW-II units & custom artisan box

Is the "Siege Bundle Pack" the default or no? Anyone got an answer?

>>60095254
Not mine but I want at least one of them. Sorry for shilling something I'd want to buy.

>>60095273
Not for sure but I think its not the default. Default is one bundle is all four.

>>60095194
what happened to the mousepad they had up for preorder? i haven't been on their website in ages but was meaning to keep an eye on it, but seems like it's gone?

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Got a tipro 128 with mx blacks like pic related for free, any keycap set for this monster?
Also thought about 3d printing a new case

>>60095344
Yea it looks like the site got updated. Not sure if that older stuff would be put back up but it would be nice.

Any good cables below 20€? I'd pair it with a Pok3r.

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>>60095137
Gaterons don't fit into cherry housings, don't even try, I lost an eye that way

>>60094496
That's a comfortable spot for the arm to rest when using the macro pad in the left hand while using a pen with the right.

>>60087913
What kb?

>>60091712
But that's the shit that nerds go crazy for. If your objective is indeed the manufacture of a keyboard for nerds to get that meme profit, the lightsaver makes more sense than your nonsense that splits the bottom row of the numpad and pushes it up.

>>60093799
do you know if the zealios which kbdfans is selling are "official" or if zeal is already getting chinked?

>>60093885
are those DSA caps

cherry nature whites are good

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>>60087913
Where can I buy a tada68 from with the cheapest postage? I'm from Australia

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>>60095143

>>60095286
have you even watched the anime?

>>60095712
Zeal said they aren't official

>>60095746
SA pulse

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>>60087913
Is there somewhere I can buy a keyboard cheaply without keycaps?

>>60095761
Taobao, or aliexpress.

>>60095817
WASD is the only place I know that does that.

>>60095797
sounds like they're official

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/67bnbt/kbdfans_seems_to_be_selling_zealios_on_aliexpress/dgpeqr1/

>>60095817
the stock keycaps on cheaper boards are usually so cheaply made that you're not paying much extra for them and you can just get the board you want and put new keycaps on it.

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omg i found pic related on a different page and now with meme modifier options

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mechanical-keyboard-pbt-keyboarded-a-large-black-keyboard-keyboarded/2230037_32740037614.html

>>60090204
But gateron clear has nothing whatsoever to do with MX clear.

>>60095639
filename

>>60096009
I bought the ones with the gradient legends but I didn't know that was an option. Ill order those when the gradient ones come if I like them. The bright colored modifiers are really nice I think. Plus with that plain black and white space bar ill have more options for other key sets because ill be able to just use the black bar and shift. Nice find.
There is a really says removable cable mod for the choc mini that im going to be doing as well. If only I could find an aluminum case for it

>>60090135
On top of that, they're literally more expensive than the OG MX clears. The guy's a massive fucking faggot, and gateron should have told him to choke on a cock--he had no legal basis

>>60095864
Holy fucking cocks, $.85/switch? You can literally get MX clears for $.50/switch on mechanicalkeyboards, why would you ever support this cocksucker?

>>60096009
>>60096196
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/double-shot-pbt-keycap-cherry-profile-rainbow-cap-for-mx-usb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-5-5/32799680240.html

Thats the link to the ones I ordered, was on my phone couldn't link.
I'll be posting pictures and my opinion when they show up since it looks like I'm the only one to have purchased that set so far.

Has anyone ever had to appeal their credit card on aliexpress? How long did it take? I mentioned it in the last thread, but for some reason it won't allow me to pay for a set of enjoypbt caps, even though I've successfully ordered other stuff from the site.

>>60096293
It's a message from god telling you to not waste so much money making the chinks rich on shitty pieces of plastic

>>60096293
Try any other payment method except your credit card. It looks like someone got your credit card number

>>60096370
If it takes too long, I may decide that god is right. Still, the caps are exactly what I want and certainly less expensive than anything comparable on a non-chinese site.

>>60096374
Nobody has my card number, though. I've checked my bank statement. Also, I was able to order something cheaper on the same site, using the same card, *after* this order required an appeal.

>>60096293
Probably your bank denied the purchase.

>>60096428
It's possible, but it's odd that my bank didn't notify me of suspicious activity or anything.

>>60096407
Link the keyset?
In all seriousness, putting Him aside for a moment, your bank probably autodeclines international purchases. On my amex serve debit I had to pay extra to buy some shit from china because it's an international purchase.

>>60096464
KBDfans sells enjoyPBT keycaps on their website, and they take paypal
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/enjoypbt-keycaps-dye-subbed-keycap-set-117keys

>>60096538
Yeah, the set is https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Enjoypbt-keyboard-mechanical-keyboard-keyboarded-hot-117-keycaps/32694867686.html , and I'm trying to get the English caps with purple legends (kit 6). Several other anons had linked this set it in the last thread.

My bank uses Visa, and I've never had issues with international orders. Also, like I said, I ordered two 3u spacebards for $9 from aliexpress *after* there were issues with this order, and I had no issue with that order (just got notified that it shipped).

I'll give the appeal the 3 days they say it may take, but after that I may just order from enjoypbt's shopify site even though it will probably cost $10 more.

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What does /mkg/ think of this?

https://oblotzky.github.io/gmk-oblivion/

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Has anyone ever converted an old school Macbook Pro keyboard into a standalone keyboard? These metal keys were the best keyboards Apple ever made.

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>>60096902

>No ISO
>No Nordic keys

Into the trash

>>60096902
>ABS
Yuck

>>60096902
Gray on gray looks nice but the colored text on the modifier keys is autistically overdone.

>Caps Lock where Control should be
fucking triggered

>>60096902
>referring to programs as "code"
TRIGGERED

Also, >>60096977 . You can get a brand new unicomp model M with higher quality caps than that, and the entire keyboard will cost less than that set of caps. Also, if you're willing to go ABS then there's an enormous number of good-looking chinkshit that costs WAY less. Why do people enter group buys that don't even save money?

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Looking to get a first mechanical keyboard. Do SteelSeries make good stuff? Just want a minimalist looking keyboard. Was going to go for a Ducky One but they're all sold out

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>>60095754
holy shit, someone who's aware nature whites exist.

>>60097021
>>Caps Lock where Control should be
>fucking triggered
this

you would think these """"programmers"""" would have figured this stuff out

How do I clean my keyboard?
Can I just pop out all the keys and vacuum up all the dust?

>>60097112
steelseries has custom switches. i dont like them. try them in a store before you buy. they also make changing keycaps impossible.

>>60097440
no you cant. your keyboard will light on fire.
not really but canned air is prefered.

>>60097440
if it's mechanical you can remove the keys and brush off the dust and hair

also clean your keycaps while you're at it. put them in the sink with medium warm water and dish soap. do it before you go to bed so you can leave them to dry overnight if you don't want to spend too much effort on drying them (water tends to get stuck inside them).

I just got my Ducky Shine 6.
Feels pretty good to type on. Still getting used to Mechanical Keys.

>>60097480
Hows the software? I know its still in beta, but that was the one thing putting me off from buying RGB keyboards from Ducky. I just wish they'd ditch the red and black edgy gamer look.

>>60096603
Shit son the english set with the blue legends is so nice but I could buy 2 full gateron boards with $75

>>60097477
>>60097467
Thanks

>>60096902
ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY DOLLARS FOR ABS PLASTIC KEYS

6 MONTHS SHIPPING TIME

WHAT.THE.FUCK.

Options for a dust cover for a Model M?

Does anyone else not join groupbuys because you're not sure if you'll be living at the same place, dead, homeless, etc by the time the product arrives?
I can't commit to something like this

>>60097803
Unicomp, or you can just cover your keyboard with a plastic shopping bag.
http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/CVR

>>60097590
software is pretty baisc.
you can update firmeware and change lighting. thats about it but it works. you dont have to use the software at all. setting up macros is pretty simple if you read the manual / look up a guide

what red and black edgy gamerlook you mean?
the font or the grill on the back? i dont mind it at all.

>>60097808
It must suck to live in Brazil, but you probably shouldn't be joining group buys anyway.

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>>60097793
those "code" modifiers tho

>>60097842
I live in New York

>>60097838
I was talking more about how the software UI looks

>>60097854
Then consider going to a doctor since your paranoia is not normal, unless you already did. Then I wish you the best.

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>>60097858
oh yeah. it looks pretty shit.
but as i said you dont even need it and dont need to have it running in the background.
you can set up your colors and then save it on the keyboard and then uninstall the software.

>>60097881
I don't think it's paranoia. It's pretty normal to have no idea what your life, or if you will even have one, up to 6 MONTHS in the future will look like. You could lose where you live, die in a car accident, get killed, lose your income, etc.

>>60097729
Yeah, I'm trying to order them for a custom built board I'm working on. Just 3 days ago I probably would have never even considered dropping $80 on a set of caps, but when you see something that's exactly what you want you just can't compromise.

The ridiculous thing is that a custom build could, hypothetically, be way cheaper than a premade board--you just need switches, the cheapest possible caps, and a microcontroller (everything else is cheap if you can make your own case). But this will end up being my most expensive KB by far, probably around $180 when it's done.

>>60097935
Maybe if you live in china and can save money on shipping and shit but there are fully functional mechanical keyboards for like $30. It's impossible to compete with that when producing only one keyboard.

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>>60097021
>>60097418
oh they include the control key to be fair

>>60097975
To be honest I posted hating on the price but they are gorgeous. I'm just a poor fag and can't throw $130 in the wind. Hats off to anyone that can afford them but they have 0 excuse for not making them in a superior plastic if you ask me.

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>>60098038
They have every excuse to do so, you can't do that colorway with dye-subbed pbt and doubleshot pbt is not only a pain to manufacture but the legends also tend to look like ass.

>>60098038
PBT is very fragile and doesn't fair well with double injection molding. It took Ducky almost a year to figure out a way how to make them somewhat reliably. The only other places that do double shot PBT is vortex and Tai-hao, but there are severe limitations.

>>60098085
>>60098109
i see. I apologize for my ignorance.

>>60098085
Still, a keyboard (oh wait, it's $130 for just caps) for """programmers""" should be about texture, ergonomics, and durability. Looks are nice, but should be a very distant lower priority.

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>>60098109
do you know who makes these? vortex, tai-hao, other?

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mechanical-keyboard-pbt-keyboarded-a-large-black-keyboard-keyboarded/2230037_32740037614.html

>>60098148
Did you buy them yet? That's one of three sets that comes with a 5.5u spacebar which is very uique. There is also a blank white set, a black with rainbow gradient legends set, and then the one you linked.
The last option is a shitty 3d printed one.

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>>60098148
Looks like vortex to me

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>>60098164
yes that's my choc mini rgb in >>60096009

i think this one looks like it comes with a 5.5u space bar:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/KBDfans-121-keys-Dye-Subbed-Keycap-Set-Rainbow-Mechanical-keyboard-Customized/2230037_32775736503.html


>>60098168
interesting

>>60097962
True, but if you wanted to do something that's traditionally really expensive, like your own ergonomic layout, you could get something for about $50-60 if you get the absolute cheapest switches, caps and controller, and can make your own case or PCB.

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>>60098214
>https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/KBDfans-121-keys-Dye-Subbed-Keycap-Set-Rainbow-Mechanical-keyboard-Customized/2230037_32775736503.html
oh wait it says it's 6.0u, my bad

>>60098235
>>60098214
>>60098214
I'm close to just buying an ak33 or drevo board. They have the similar layout but use standard keycaps and are dirt fucking cheap. Under $50. The drevo exclaibur has the same layout but a metal case and removable cable. The primary feature keeping me on my noppoo is the hardware swap control and capslock which I need. I also love the pom caps but sadly Ibought thre white board and then changed my mind on going with a white set up.

>>60097808
This. I guess I'll have to have the stuff delivered to my parents' house.

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>>60098214
>interesting
The second shot injection pattern doesn't look like what I've seen in vortex caps previously, but everything else about them screams vortex. Though it seems that they updated their tooling anyway since the secondary legends are now arranged in a manner that allows for proper backlighting and there's that god ugly windows logo instead of "win" written on the super key

>>60098272
i'm happy with these keycaps but yeah once i need a new keyboard or i need to replace the keycaps and there's no more compatible keysets on the market i'm probably getting a different keyboard which uses standard keycaps

>>60098293
>have the money to spend on group buys of overpriced chink shit designed by reddit
>still unable to provide any sort of stable living condition
Are these the "working-class americans" trump was talking about?

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>>60098311
yep definitely looks like an updated version of pic related but with white legends instead of shine through

>>60090438
explain

How do you guys think this will look?
Satan gh60 PCB
Blue aluminum case
silver top plate
enjotpbt english with blue legends
blue lindy coiled USB cable

it's going to be like $200 bucks and i have to buy a soldering iron

>>60098567
You see anon, you need to take two separate keyboards and attach them to the sides of your desk chair, below the armrests. Then, let your arms hang straight down and you can use one keyboard for each hand.

This eliminates any need to twist your wrists or elbows, improves your posture, and helps you type with a lighter touch to reduce finger stress. Anything less than that setup, including wrist wrests, is kind of inferior and basically dogshit-tier trash that's literally guaranteed to give you wrist diseases.

>>60098567
putting any pressure on your wrists is bad for you. Ideally You want your hands to hover over the keyboard. But if you use them as palm assist then that should be fine.

>>60098687
That will definitely be a high-tier, good looking desk fedora, anon. Post pics when it's done

>soldering iron
Damn, now that's just too much.

>>60095521
So why do people do it on the wide internet D:
And what would you recommend for the same smoothness as a lubed Gateron Yellow?

>>60094301
bump?

Are there just IBM's couple models then?

>>60100035
Dell AT101
Focus FK

>>60100035
Old ass compass were mechanical, old Apple keyboards, Old Suns (if you can find the USB version (type 6 and latter IIRC had the option), otherwise it's a retarded proprietary connector (though type 5c is widely considered the best it didn't AFAIK come in a USB version))

>>60094301
>>60100035
Any of these will do
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Keyboards_with_Alps_SKCL/SKCM_switches

>>60096009

If only they understood how bad it looks that the F keys are right above the number keys like that, instead of being spaced out a bit. Perhaps sacrifice the insert or printscreen button.

>>60098085
No reason they couldn't do doubleshot pbt+pom in whatever colors they want and not have it turn out like ass like pbt+pbt does

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Anyone know if originative.co do ISO sets in cherry profile?

These keys are absolutely perfect for me but I need that bong layout.

>>60095521
I have a feeling you're memeing me. Pls be genuine.

>>60101128
that's the reason I only buy keyboards with that layout. they're more comfortable to press and then with the hardware control capslock swap makes control modified keybinds easy to reach too.

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>>60101128
it's fine imo, doesn't bother me at all. it leaves no gaps and it's comfy to use too. i definitely wouldn't want anything more than a 0.25-0.5u gap between esc and f1. not a 1.0u gap like pic related. if the spacing was even then i think it'd look ok but i don't think i'd prefer it.

>>60101798
That's nice. What keyboard us that? Very close to what I'm looking for.

>>60102094
Z-88 RGB

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Why don't more companies do this layout? Had one for years before a move killed it. Would have to add a set of PBT caps to the cost to complete it. That makes it an almost $200 keyboard at that point.

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Any information on a more ergonomic tactile layout than just using all of one switch? I cant even use reds after buying a board with blues but since i'm going to be building my own board I don't have to use all blues.
I'm thinking maybe watching what fingers I use for which keys and placing higher weight switches on the stronger fingers and super light or maybe even linear switches for the ones i hit with my pinkies or what ever
pic unrelated by i like its alot, its nice dont you think

Just found a cm firestorm at my local good will for 5$ what do? I would like to use it as a carry around and want to get ne caps. I'm not the most knowledgeable with keyboard

>>60103438
Congratulations, you just re-invented a Realforce keyboard.

Does the tada68 have media keys? Only thing keeping me from buying one.

>>60104889
layers

I have a Razer Blackwidow ultimate, and I don't really like it. The switches are actually pretty good, if a tad inconsistent. However, I don't like the keyboard. Too big, crappy keycaps with a non-standard layout so it's difficult to replace those. I don't like having to use software to change lighting either. Sysnapse is aids.
Does anybody know what switches the "Razer Green" are emulating? It's clicky and tactile bump, so I'm guessing blue. Has anybody tried both blue and brown and want to compare them? I'm thinking about buying a smaller (but still full layout) board.

>>60104050
Just get it nigga. Jesus, where do you all go to good will? Is it like right next to google HQ or something? All the thrift stores near me only have old clothes and VCRs, like you'd expect.

>>60103438
What board is that? Kbd 75?

>>60105900
did you try reverse image search? its an imgur filename so that makes it really easy to find.
http://imgur.com/a/VWQw0

Where the fuck can I buy a keyboard with a classic beige/tan colored case? Every fucking case these days is black or white.

>>60105972
>drevo excalibur
what's the difference between this and drevo gramr

are there any other 84 key drevos?

>>60106163
cherry

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I mean, if I get all the extras just for the yellow highlights I want and then TWO base kits, that's plenty enough keycaps to cover two keyboards.

$150 / set doesn't seem so bad...

>>60106165
No those are the only two. Also look at the AK33, Noppoo Choc Mini, Keycool 84(if they're still made), http://winkeyless.kr/product/b-mini-x2-pcb/ is expensive as fuck but whatever
and uhh there's a new vortex shipping in a few months
remember to preach the glory of this lay out whenever you can. I suggest a noppoo if you don't ever want to replace the caps, excalibur if you does

>>60106300
Jesus christ man. How does it feel spending more than enough for a really nice suped up rx580 or a used 980ti on that?
Shit you could buy a 12 thread cpu and motherboard

>>60106345
If I needed computer parts, I'd buy computer parts. At the moment I don't, and I enjoy playing dress-up with my keyboards and other things on my desk.

Anyone own a Unicomp Model M? Does the 2KRO fuck you up in video games?

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Post you're self typing on your favorite keyboard?
t. ~120 wpm w/ knock off blues aka the bottom out god

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>>60106372
I own a normal model M and it doesn't Since modifiers like shift space and ctrl don't count I don't have a problem. Also certain combination like QWER work due to the way who the matrix is designed

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