/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>60047192
Not true.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11182/how-to-get-ryzen-working-on-windows-7-x64
https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/am4-chipset-driver.aspx

>>60047249
i'm too old and tired to be jumping through hoops beside win7 is compromised thanks to being aborted.

>>60047249
have any anons got Ryzen and 7 working? im curious

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>>60047270
>win7 is compromised thanks to being aborted.
Not true either.
http://www.pcgamer.com/user-patch-unlocks-windows-7-and-81-updates-on-kaby-lake-and-ryzen/
https://github.com/zeffy/kb4012218-19
If your excuse is you're too old for something so technically simple as sticking the drivers in a USB then you need to get out and rethink your life.

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>>60047271
I haven't visited any speccy threads lately so I have no idea.

>>60047315
>user patch
ye naw

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>>60047343
Go with your Ubuntu install then, Xubuntu or Kubuntu are pretty good.

Any russianons can recommend me a good ssd with 240gb?
budget is 6000 roubles

>>60047438
Cхoдить в CCД-тхpeд /хaвэ/ нeльзя?

>>60047446
>russian imageboards

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Comes to around $2000 Australian dollarooz.

Any recommendations/changes?

>>60047450
/hw/ is somewhat decent.

>>60047331
>current state of windows

>>60047460
Non-K 7700? I'd opt for 1600/1600x and AM4 mobo then.

>>60047460
>Goyvidia
>Jewtel

>>60047343
I know that feel. Yeah, W10 is fucking bullshit but it's all fun and games until you get a couple dozen actual botnets and a bitcoin miner on the side for fiddling around with debloaters, user patches and unsigned drivers from god knows where.

>>60047478
1070 is okay.

>>60047460
>2000 odds
>for Intel shit SSD and a Seagate
I think that 1070 is eating up your budget.

Will rx 580 8gb be bottlenecked with the G4560?

>>60047477
I'd be happy to spend the xtra $50 for the 7700K
>>60047478
do you have any viable advice or just memes?
>>60047487
I'm open to other ideas anon (1070 comes to $629)

>>60047460
>i7
absolute shit

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>>60047331

>>60047510
the i7 is shit you fucking mong theres your advice

>>60047460
Looks okay. Seems like a lot for not much PC, though. I think you can make similar in the US for about $900.
Not sure about Seagate, though. I haven't seen recent reliability numbers.

>>60047510
>I'd be happy to spend the xtra $50 for the 7700K
But you have a 7700 there.

>>60047528
shitpost elsewhere.

>>60047502
If anything, it's overkill for 1080p@60 which is what I suspect you want to play at with that CPU. Scale down to a 470/570.

>>60047271
I did temporarily but i couldn't get USB working at all. Was using ps/2. Just gave up and put Linux on it. It's not like many games or anything are even coming out and directx is going to die in the next year or two. Productivity stuff is better on Linux than windows anyway. For me at least.

>>60047502
>Will rx 580 8gb be bottlenecked with the G4560?
What do you think...? That's honestly such a dumb question.
The G4560 can't keep over 60fps in a good deal of games, whereas the 580 can handle 1440p 60fps+ let alone 1080p.
So yes, it will bottleneck it heavily in many games even at 1440p. If you want to stay over 60fps minimum in most games, you need at least a 1500X.

You should at most pair the G4560 with an RX560, 1050Ti, RX470, or simply use the iGPU.

>>60047564
>stuttering isnt a issue
>power consumption isnt a issue
>heat isnt a issue
>deliding isnt a issue
>the fact that it costs more than a 8 core isnt a issue

wew lad stop shilling for intel

Talk me out from replacing corsair cx750m for seasonic prime titanium 650. Please.
I can afford it, and want it but still feels like a waste.

>>60047600
7700 don't stutter nearly as bad as i5s, tho. Maybe he doesn't play any of the games that the 7700 still stutter on. I haven't seen conclusive evidence that it's so problematic like on the 7600k and other i5s. One is GTAV, which is fine if you just frame rate limit it to 150fps.
But maybe he should price out a 1600 and RX580 build and spend more on a monitor and shit instead.

>>60047607
Can't talk you out of that, senpai. That's a good purchase and the cx750m is pretty garbo. Though I'd probably get the 520w Seasonic fanless instead. Or one of the other brand models based on it that have some extra features.

Would I be satisfied with the i5-7600k if I intend to use it for gaming and normal desktop activities (watching movies/reading/shitposting) only, or should I get the i7-7700k just to be safe?

I don't plan on using more than 2 monitors(both 75hz), and I'll probably never use it as a workstation either

>>60047636
you should get 1600x. seriously.
$100 cheaper and no i5 downsides with all it's benefits.

>>60047632
>7700 don't stutter nearly as bad as i5s
stuttering is still stuttering, ryzen doesn't have this problem

>>60047636
4c/4t is garbage and a stutterfest in lots of games from the past few years.
The 1600 is better on average in every way over the 7600k.

As for the 7700k, that's an option that's better than the 7600k but don't forget the delidding service, more expensive board, cooler, and so on that makes it cost more, on top of the lack of warranty.

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I have a circuit thats based on Proto Stripboard. I built a couple and they work as designed. however I would like a cleaner board so was thinking express pcb or other place to make me some boards up. They have a designer however I am on a MAC and its for PC. If anyone knows of someone willing to help or can do it for a small fee let me know. I want to take the below circuit and add a DPDT relay as shown. I will also have another board I already have jumper wired to this board. This is what the circuit looks like... Any help or referrals will be appreciated...

What is going on, whole R5 line is available in salvlands except for 1600x.
Damn you bourgeois!

>>60047194
whats that comic?

>>60047698
That sucks since I heard the x version has no benefit over the normal one once you decide to oc

>>60047725
Tons of people don't want to OC.

Apparently the 1600X and 1600 are both extremely popular.
Jet had the 1600 for $190 initially, but since they restocked they're higher prices now.

>>60047723
>whats that comic?
It comes in the box with MSI GPUs. At least the RX500 ones but I assume GTX cards would have a slightly different one.

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>>60047647
>>60047656
price-wise the 1600x isn't really that different from 7700k

Seems like the only reason why a person would get it is for the core and thread count, and I'm not sure if they're needed(?) for what I'm planning on doing.

(My budget is around £800, but I can go over to 900 if necessary)

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>>60047746
>Apparently the 1600X and 1600 are both extremely popular.
NOOOOOOOOO

>>60047761
>X version
don't getting the 1600 and overclocking yourself is a better route

>>60047746
Yeah it's a holdout killer. I see heaps of people with ancient PCs grabbing 1600s.

>>60047761
The 7700k needs a more expensive motherboard and 180w+ TDP instead of 100-140w TDP cooler. Why are you comparing the CPU cost in a vacuum?

>>60047776
>Yeah it's a holdout killer. I see heaps of people with ancient PCs grabbing 1600s.
Yeah, it's the new 2500k of this past half-decade.

I want a 1600X though since I might not want to OC, or if I do for hopefully a slightly higher OC. I was hoping it'd go on sale quick like the 1800X did... but it's not looking like it will.

>>60047761
Wtf England. It's $300 Vs $500 in Australia between 1600 and 7700k

>>60047794
it's some sale, still more expensive than 1600x+B350 than 7700K+z270

cooler would be the same.

>>60047765
What did you expect? Its good and it's relatively cheap.

>>60047761
>>60047794
It's £195.99 minus VAT on Newegg UK, and VAT isn't £85.
Guy is just lying or dumb. Go figure someone stupid would use that website he screenshotted from to begin with.

When is RX 560 supposed to come out?

Would it be better to get a decent non reference 1080 like the Galax HOF edition over a reference 1080ti and spend money on somewhere else like a better motherboard, ssd or memory
coming from someone who plays on 1080p 144hz

>>60047906
I would also spend on monitor/ssd/psu/case first.
Most people will change the GPU much more often than those components, especially when they go Nvidia.

>>60047820
It's probably the latter, since I hadn't even looked/heard of the site before

I've never build a computer myself, so I just assumed that I'd be alright if I used Ebay and amazon like usual

>>60047782
Good question! I had a built ready in pcpartpicker, but I forgot to save it before cleaning my cookies so I lost it, but as far I remember it was within the budget and everything looked like it'd go together pretty nicely.

I've also heard from people that getting the 7700k would be more beneficial for me in the future, so I don't mind spending the extra 150 for whatever I need. They also claimed that AMD is slow and lags like crazy, but that was a few months ago and.

>>60047980
yes, a few months ago AMD was slow and lagged like crazy

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>>60047980
Why would a 7700k be more beneficial in the future when so many games the past few years use up 95% on all 8 threads without it reaching 144fps?

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>>60048171
95-100%*

Can't find a good comparison, though. Professional tech reviewers are too busy benchmarking 8 year old games.

So going by these threads, the general consensus on the GTX 1080ti seems to be
>Only buy if you have too much money or if you are an impatient chimpanzee

Did I get that right?

>>60048171
>Why would a 7700k be more beneficial in the future
It won't. More and more games and applications will be optimized for mutli core use in the future and this is where the 7700K will fall behind CPUs with more cores.
If you want something futureproof i suggest you get a R5, R7 or 6800K if you're an Intel fuccboi.

>>60048256
I'd normally say that about Nvidia's top end cards. Though the 1080Ti is actually decent performance/$.
It's just that Vega will almost surely be a better buy even without the Gsync-idiot-tax.

I've come into some money (UK) and my PC has issues with the motherboard ethernet (z97 gaming 3) and needs an upgrade, problem is that I will need to get new RAM and CPU along with it.

I'm planning to get an i5 7600k with 16GB RAM and 6 SATA slots. Mainly gaming with plans to get a 1440p monitor. Recommendations?

>>60048305
>i5 7600K
Shit choice. Get R5 1600. Also, if it's only your ethernet, why not simply get a PCI adapter?

>>60048305
Why don't you read the OP? i5s aren't worth considering for any purpose.

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I need advice on what AM4 motherboard to get:
>not more than € 200
>overclocking a 8 core cpu
>single gpu
>excellent audio
>good fan profile support
>at least 6 sata connectors
>good RAM support

What are my options?

>>60048408
>overclocking a 8 core cpu
Get one with 4 real VRMs and a heat sink, or 5 or 6 real VRMs if you're worried about VRM cooling. But really the pro 4's 3 doubled VRMs are generally fine.
>excellent audio
Get a DAC. If you want to be a bitch about it, then just look at ones that have the audio shielded and on its own PCB layer.
>at least 6 sata connectors
hard to say since some having a SATA disable for each m.2 in use. But you can easily filter your search for that.
>good RAM support
They all seem fine now.
>good fan profile support
They pretty much all have many 4 pin fan connectors and a fan control utility.

>>60047249
>main issue usb support
which means if I have a dvd drive I can install it from the dvd instead? neat

>>60048408
Gigabyte Gaming 3 or Asus X370 Pro.
Both have good VRM, good audio (ALC1220), good fan profiles, SATA idk, Gigabyte may have less than 6 and RAM... well, pick your poison.
Imho get the Asus X370 for better OC and more SATA ports, it should be like 150 bucks.

Hi /g/uys

So, im gonna buy the i7 7700 today but in my local hardware store there is no stock of 2400mhz ram.

>There is no problem using 2666mhz ram?
Because my i7 only supports 2133 and 2400

>>60048620
You can use faster RAM with it with a Z270 board.
I'm not sure if 2666 will downclock to 2400 automatically on a B250 board or if it'll drop all the way down to 2133.

Thoughts on this micro ATX build?
Its not for gaming, GPU only for additional outputs.

Fractal Design Mini
MSI B350M
AMD Ryzen 5 1400
R7 240 - for extra outputs
Corsair H100i AIO
650W PSU
8GB DDR4

>>60048649

That is my case I will buy a B250 mobo

>>60048657
>1400
>H100i
>650w PSU
what th fefuck

>>60048686
Should i go for a 1500X or 1600?

>>60048657
What is your budget and your build purpose? Especially programs that you will mostly use.

If there are no beeps whwn starting, fans spin, and you are sure psu works, how do i get to know if it's cpu or mobo dead? Cpu heatsink is really cold after half an hour of working

>>60048704
1500X at the very least. 1400 isn't really worth considering unless it's <$150 since the 1500X is so much better for only $20 more.
1600 is a good choice if you feel like overclocking and can stretch the budget another $30.

>>60048748
I also replaced cmos battery

>>60048336
Even if I disable ethernet I still get a huge hang on login

>>60048373
Posting from work so only read the first few sentences

re: R5 1600, looking at http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3885vs3919 the R5 doesn't seem to rate much better? It's been ages since I've had to care about a CPU so I'm pretty clueless nowadays, so feel free call me an idiot.

Current build:
CASE: Fractal Design Define R4 Black
SSD: 120GB Samsung 840 PRO
HDD: 4TB SEAGATE ST4000DM00 SATA3
GPU: 8GB MSI Radeon R9 390X GAMING
PSU: 650W EVGA SuperNOVA GS PSU


MOBO: Z97 GAMING 3
CPU : Intel i5 4690K
RAM: 16GB 2x8G CML16GX3M2A1600C10

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>>60048776
>userbenchmark
Yeah, you're clueless. How do you even wind up at such a retarded ass site?

>>60048461
I'll look into the asrock ab350 pro4, thanks.

>>60048581
I'll check these out as well. Any reason you didn't mention the Asrock X370 K4?

>>60048748
It's probably mobo. CPUs can usually outlast severial motherboards.

>>60048704
Buy 1600 if you just can afford it, extra two cores are well worth the price. But if you can't afford it then don't be too sad, 1500X is not too bad either.

>>60048776
>upgradeing from a haswell i5
retard

>>60048804
We don't know details about its VRM yet. Especially after it came out that ASRock is using a 3 phase on their B350 boards i'd be cautious with their boards. Only proven to be good ones are Taichi and Prpfessional Gaming, but they are expensive.

>>60048704
1600 and overclock it

Does crossfire suffer from microstutters just like SLI?

>>60048798
Honestly I just googled 'X v Y' and picked the first thing.

>>60048831
>upgradeing
>eing
Stones and glasses house anon. But if you mean I should just stick with the CPU and therefore the socket, I'll just look for a 1150 motherboard and keep my RAM/CPU.

570 vs 480 if price is the same? Which is better?

>>60049011
480 probably if it's one with 8Gbps memory. Depends on the model and a bunch of shit.

>>60048840
>We don't know details about its VRM yet
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8135/asrock-fatal1ty-x370-gaming-k4-motherboard-review/index3.html
He talks about the vrm briefly but then says he's not impressed in the conclusion.

>>60049135
I know that review, but it isn't conclusive. Is it 4phase doubled to 8, or is it the same shady shit ASRock pulled with the Pro4 / K4 by simply putting doubling the components in each phase to make it look like a 6 phase although it's a 3 phase.
Another thing is that they use NIKOS MOSFETs OR SinoPower, seemingly depending on region or random. It's a shady and bad practice.

>>60049180
Doesn't look like the Pro4s to me. Those are large mosfets and chokes.

Even if it is fucking "shadily hur dur" doubling like the Pro4, the pro4 will perfectly happily handle 1.45v vcore since the design runs cooler despite being 3 phases.

>>60049226
Current won't be as stable as with 4 true phases, also MOSFETs one the X370 K4 are the same, chokes are probably different since they advertise them if i'm not wrong?
>1.45v
That's not something i'd run 24/7, especially not on a 3 phase B350 board.

>>60049271
>That's not something i'd run 24/7
No shit. Which goes to show how more than good enough the Pro4's phases are. I think they're probably just as good as 4 decent real phases if not slightly better.
> especially not on a 3 phase B350 board.
Here I don't get wtf you're saying. The VRMs can handle it. It's just more than you'd want to give to the CPU.

Even the MSI GAMING PRO's 3 phases are probably enough, since it at least has a heatsink. That's the only thing I'd say is a requirement for overclocking the 4 or 6 cores, is that it has a heatsink for the VRMs.
But I'm pretty sure you could still get decent OCs on the 8 cores still on those modest boards.

I got my pro 4 and I'll let you know when I get my CPU I guess. But many people have shown that 5 or 6 phases is complete overkill even on the 8 cores.
Boards like the Taichi with its 16 small phases are made to deliver what.. like 350-450watts? Those are LN2 boards.
Seriously, just avoid the ones without heatsinks and you'll be fine, though personally I wouldn't go with 3 cheap phases like the MSI GAMING PRO.

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>CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHZ Box

>Motherboard: Asus H170 Pro Gaming

>Hard-drive: HDD 1TB SATA3 + SSD 240GB SATA3

>RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V Red DDR4 2133 PC4-17000 16GB 2x8GB CL15

>GFX: Asus Dual GTX 1060 OC 6GB GDDR5

What do anons think? I know it might not be the best, since we could only afford 1200€ for this so far, but I know it makes a difference to my previous PC, because it can run DOOM 2016 and Dark Souls 3 fine, aside of some other games.

>obviously prebuilt from PCComponentes

>>60049579
Really bad. Everything about it is bad. It even looks bad.

You must be trolling. I'd be ashamed to post that if it were mine.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/DGP8wV

Do I need to buy a wireless card for this? I cannot hook it up via ethernet

>>60049579
>~$1300 for that thing
You're massively overpaying in exchange for someone putting the parts and system together for you. You'd be significantly better off putting in the time and research to building it yourself and picking out the parts.

If that still sounds too daunting, there are plenty of places that will put together your computer for you for a fee, and it will still end up cheaper/faster than that.

>>60049730
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DGP8wV
>not dual channel memory
>$125 for a 1050Ti
>shit EVGA PSU that's not semimodular instead of the M12II

fix those

>>60049869
Rx 470 is $200 minimum. I've switched out the ram, please rec a psu

>>60049882
Not US? And I already recommended a PSU

>>60049928
I am US. 470 shot up in price

>>60050022
What's your budget for your GPU? Have you looked around for sales?

>>60050022
Then get an RX570. 60% better performance over the 1050Ti for 35% more money. How is that not obvious?

>>60050069
$5 cheaper than 470

>>60050059
$150

>>60050099
The point of a budget build is to get good value. Maybe you should sell your virginity.

>60% better performance over the 1050Ti for 35% more money

>>60050116
480's pretty frequently go on sale for sub $200, there's one on newegg right now for $190 with MIR -
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150774&cm_re=rx_480-_-14-150-774-_-Product

You could probably find a 470 for around that price if the additional $40 is too much for you, but the other anon is right, you're getting really bad value per dollar spent right now. 570/580s aren't expensive either, with three seconds of looking there are several models for $200 with no hoops to jump through

How much more power does a 980ti use than a 1070? Is my power bill going to go through the roof if I add a second 980ti instead of going through the hassle of selling mine and buying a 1080ti/vega?

>>60050232
note that the games I play support sli so it's not a problem

out of curiosity how long will ryzen 5 last me?

>>60049384
>how more than good enough the Pro4's phases are
Never said 3 phase isn't good enough to run an octa core on it, but i certainly wouldn't OC on it. Voltage regulation will be complete shit.
>I think they're probably just as good as 4 decent real phases if not slightly better
No. Just no. 3 phase design is never as good or even better as 4 phase design, doubled 3 phase will compete, but a simple 3 phase design won't.
They only thing you achieve by putting more components into each phase is to lower it's operating temperature.
>The VRMs can handle it
Sure they can, but for how long? I want you to run a 1700 OC @1.45v on a 3 phase mobo for some years, please tell me how long it took to fail.
>But many people have shown that 5 or 6 phases is complete overkill even on the 8 cores
Power delivery is one thing, voltage regulation is another one. More phases are always better.
The Taichi obviously is overkill, but something like a Asus X370 Pro isn't.

>>60050232
You will absolutely never feel a GPU on the power bill

>>60047460
>i7 7700
JUST

>>60047271
Ryzen 5 1600X running ESXi, loading Wangblows 7 Professional with 0 issues.

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>awaiting the last part for my computer (graphics card) that arrives today
>realize I literally have no clue how to build a PC
>start to freak out

Guys, I literally don't know what the hell im going to do. Any tips for first time builders or recommended videos to watch to help me?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CgNYzM
Yay or nay?

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>>60050708

>>60050744
you don't really need that much mhz on you ram. 2400 is fine, everything above is pretty much diminishing returns and you'll hardly notice it (unless cost is not an issue then go for it I guess).

>>60050708
I'm too lazy to link it but there are plenty out there that go over it in varying levels of detail, from general overview to 4 hour long videos with detail to every single thing

You'll be fine, do some research

is there a good website/program that would help me calibrate my monitor?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4BpQ9W

Can anyone recommend me a good PSU, and which ones I should avoid? I'm new at this. Any suggestions welcome.

How big of a different would it be to go from a laptop with a 770m, 24gb ram and an i7 4700hq to a desktop i5-760 1050 ti and 8gb ram? Asking for a friend, he got a desktop with an amd 4700 something and we're wondering if it would be a good move

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Is the Corsair Carbide 740 a good case?

>>60051140
Seasonic Prime Titanium 750w. That's the one I purchased for my rig.

>>60051237
It's a an amd 5700 something, not 4700

>>60051294
Isn't that a bit overkill for the rig I'm building?

>>60051246
Better than the model it replaces, but still meh.
No dust filters.
Lots of wasted space on that other side.

>>60051237
A 5770 to a 1050Ti..?
Like 50-100% better. An insignificant amount better when you're talking an 8 year old card compared to a new $125 card.
#50ti and #60ti cards are always a joke.

And an i7 4700hq to an i5-760..? A downgrade. Get a real computer.

>>60047194
What is that comic in the OP, I must have it for myself to then subsequently sexualize the dragon and post porn of it across various websites.

>>60051515
>ctrl+f to see if your question was answered already
fag

>>60051512
Well he said 5770m it seems like. The 1050Ti could be more like 2-3x that performance.

>>60051246
i'm super picky so it's taken me 2 days to put a pc together and thats the case i stuck with almost went for the temp glass Lian-Li mid but went with your pic

Redpill me anons
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LBCZKZ

>>60051798
>pc shart sniffer
what are you? retarded? Use your head do the work.

>>60051798
>1050Ti
>When you can get an RX570 for $170
Rest looks solid.

I have a r9 390 a shitty gigabyte one with shitty cooler.
a) how do I flahs a bios so it becomes an r9 390x and i can undervolt it (it's locked)
b) If I can't undervolt it this summer is either going to fry my system or start a housefire, what cooling solutions I can prevent rhis with.

best low profile CPU fan for non-OC'd i7 7700K?

>>60051598
the 1050 ti is way weaker than the 470/570 and are close to the same price, if you arent buying a 1080 or better, don't buy nvidia

>>60051798
here

was all good except for the gpu, its recommended to for a rx 470 over a 1050ti, the 470 is way more powerful

>>60047194
So from what I understand, ryzen cpus aren't compatible with Windows 7? How is that supposed to work? Is there any way to get around this or will I have to go intel?

Looking to upgrade my rig. Living in Norway. Looking to spend around 200 USD. My current rig is:
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition
GPU: GTX970
RAM: 8 Gig
OS: Windows 10 (Running on SSD)
HDD: 2x 1TB (1 used exclusively for shadowplay recording output)

I have a project where I record DOTA2 replays using Shadowplay (1080p, 60 FPS) provided by my GTX970 graphics card, while running a python-script in the background looking for certain pixel values in the background. The problem is that the output video is not quite getting the FPS I want, and with some FPS stutter. I get around 50 FPS during teamfights. Other than that I also do some FFMPEG H264 which would be nice to have run a bit faster, but for the moment its good enough.

Will I get significantely higher/smoother FPS if I buy a used Intel i5 2500k CPU, and a used/new motherboard? Planning to overclock this, with my after-market air cooler. Should I avoid buying the CPU if it has been overvolted? What about motherboard? I see for example used ASUS P8Z68-V PRO (60 USD), or ASRock Z77Extreme 4 (115 USD) available.

>>60051986
I know a C7 tends to be fine for a 7700 unless you have one that really needs delidding especially badly.
I don't think it's quiet enough for a 7700k though. Maybe a delidded one? Might need one in the 125w TDP range. The C7 is 100w TDP.

>>60052012
Tell that to the other anon. I already know.

>>60052089
You need to read up more if that's your understanding. Kabylake have the same thing going.
I don't understand where you guys are getting this idea that it's "not compatible" but you don't know what's actually happening. Are you getting this info from facebook or some shit?

>>60051887
Get an aftermarket cooler. I dunno about the flashing but I'd want to have a BIOS switch for that.

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>>60051887

See pic (its a raijintek morpheus).

Also: http://www.overclock.net/t/1561372/hawaii-bios-editing-290-290x-295x2-390-390x

>>60052246
>Will I get significantely higher/smoother FPS if I buy a used Intel i5 2500k CPU

Yes you would.

would a 600w seasonic psu be enough to support an i7 7700k and gtx 1070?

Cheap silent cpu cooler for a Q6600? I will leave it a stock.

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>>60052742

Are you running them stock? What else is in the system?

>pic related

>>60052784

Just about any tower cooler will do the job for a 105w TDP chip. To be honest at this stage basically any cooler that fits will be more than enough.

>>60052819
i plan to overclock the i7.
mobo-asus prime z270-A
ram-G.Skill Ripjaws-V 2x8GB DDR4 3000Mhz CL15 Kit

>>60052742
600W is plenty for any system that doesn't have more than 1 CPU and 1 GPU, unless you have some exotic setup.

Im going to upgrade some of the components in my computer, here is what i was planning to buy:
>GPU
AMD RX 580 8gb
>Motherboard
AMD B350
>CPU
Ryzen 5 1500x

Is this optimal?

>>60053007
Spend a bit more money and get an R5 1600.

Okay I got just ordered the last part to my upgrade. Maximum savings autism all done.

$0 Corsair 500R (from 6 years ago)
$0 7970 (from 6 years ago)
$0 HDDs and SSDs from years ago
$219.99 - 1600X
$48.99 - ASRock Pro4 mATX ($80 -20% ebates+giftwards -$15 MiR)
$46.99 - M12II 620watt ($59.99 -5% Amazon -$10 MiR)
$47.99 - Cryorig C1 cooler ($59.99 -20% ebates+giftcards)
$134.99 - 2x16GB DDR4
-$10 additional ebates discount
$3.70 - total tax
$4.99 total shipping costs
$497.64 total

>>60053026
Why? It is just 50 bucks more so im pretty sure ill go for the 1600 instead but im interested in knowing what itll improve

>>60053143

8mb cache and 4 extra threads is well worth it.

>>60053143
Everything, it has more more cores and threads so its better for multitasking.

So after receiving a thorough trashing by you guys when I said I wanted to buy a GTX 1080Ti I started to look at the GTX 1080 as an alternative since it's about 220€ cheaper, 250€ if I go for a store that I have never heard of.

I wonder though, can the 1080 run games at a consistent 144fps at 1440p? The 1080 doesn't have bad performance, but will it be enough for when I buy a 1440p monitor?

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my Radeon 7870 is showing its age, need a new card. budget is 300 burger shekels or less, Nvidia or AMD doesn't matter as long as it's got drivers. recommendations /g/ents?

>>60053177
>>60053185
okay thanks guys. the other components look good though?

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>>60053188

> wonder though, can the 1080 run games at a consistent 144fps at 1440p?

You're asking the wrong question because you don't understand the underlying issue. The answer is no and not for the reason you think.

>>60053212
Didn't really specify what motherboard and graphics cards you are getting, but other than that it looks good.

>>60053218
Care to elaborate?

Is there something wrong with the 1080? Or am I being memed.

>>60053238
the gpu is the asus rog strix radeon RX 580 OC 8GB and the motherboard is the b350 tomahawk

>>60053188
If you want to play new games at 1440p/144Hz, you're pretty much out of luck regardless of your GPU, unless you're willing to tone down the settings, and even then you'll probably just hit a CPU bottleneck.

>>60053269
Get rid of the asus, try to get a sapphire or XFX or MSI.

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>mobo won't accept 2933MHz RAM
>check BIOS for my AB350M, it's the first release F2 version
>grab gygabyte bios and flash it
>check it, it's the F4 version @10 april
>set it to 2933MHz and reboot
>BIOS reverts to F2 on its own
What. Why? Where did it even pull that F2 version? Why won't he accept 2933 RAM when the mobo specs allow it?

is a gtx 1070 enough to run whatever you throw at it at 60fps/1440p?

>>60053266

>Is there something wrong with the 1080?

No.

>Or am I being memed.

No.

In simolistic terms as obvious as it sounds a PC operates as many different parts working together. Having a 1080 doesn't mean shit if yo uare slamming straight into a cpu or game engine wall. Other hinderances might be games breaking at high refresh rates or (considerably rarer) requiring fast ram (or even shitloads) to cache data to keep those framerates up. Merely asking if a 1080 enough is like asking which is better for treating a broken leg, tuesday or friday?

>>60053143
>>60053007
It's fine.
The GPU and CPU are going to have pretty much equal chances of bottlenecking each other, both good for 60fps+ which is basically optimal, whereas a 1600 overclocked will give more headroom and not even a 1080Ti will bottleneck it in almost any game from the past few years.

The 1600 is going to have tons more headroom both from background shit while the 1500X would be running 100%, and for better performance in general.

If you can still grab a 1600 for MSRP, get it. Amazon keeps raising its price every day.

>>60053177
The 1600 is the same cache as the 1500X. But the cache does run faster.

>>60053207
Get the Red Devil GS, Nitro+, or GTR-S. Read reviews of those and decide for yourself. Good cards for 1440p and the only drawback is power consumption.

>>60053317
An RX580 can except for like 5 games that you'll have to turn settings down on. Mostly shit games like ME Andromeda.
Not worth the 1440p Gsync cost, imo.

>>60053266
You asked if it can run games consistently at 144fps.
It can't.
Many games have shitty engines limiting them to around 60fps no matter how good your hardware is.
Like are you retarded? You asked a question, got a simple answer, and you think you're getting memed?

>>60053304

Is your ram on the QVL? Just because a board supports xyz speed ram doesn't mean it supports YOUR ram of that speed. That is why the QVL list exists.

>>60053304
switch to single bios mode

>>60053301
found a sapphire rx 580 8gb pulse, which also was 60 bucks cheaper, so ill go for that one then i guess. thanks

>>60053297
Well, shit. I thought that with every site touting 4K performance figures on the high-end cards already that 1440p/144hz would be achievable. But I guess not.


>>60053351
Well, the rest of the computer (shouldn't) be a problem. Since I'm planning to put together a completely new rig with a new GPU (1080/1080ti) paired with an overclocked R7 1700 and fast RAM. All games are going to be installed on an SSD as well, and the whole thing is going to have more than adequate cooling.

But I will take the answer that was given, which is no, it can't.

>>60053372
The answer I received in the post I quoted was vague and so I assumed I either missed something incredibly obvious, or some kind of meme.

Currently deciding between a case. How is the Corsair 100R compaired to the 200R? Does anyone have any reccomendations in that price range?

>>60053392
Your welcome.

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ok here's my build 3rd revision keep preferences to yourself and tell me why I shouldn't buy this cooler

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>>60052246
This is my RAM, shown with CPU-Z. If I buy a i5 2500k, should I buy new RAM as well, or is this good enough?

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>>60053372
im not sure if i should go 60/fps-1440p,120/fps-1080p or just 60/ps-1080p.
i want to be able to run everything in the near future without hiccups.
what is the price difference between all those monitors if i want them to include g-sync?

>>60053519
your eyes can only see 40-50 fps and higher resolution is the only thing that matters

>>60053374
Yep. F4-3200C14D-16GFX. XMP ok. Don't know why.

>>60052819
Going to get a Raijintek Themis.

>>60053515

If you are trying to savem oney keep the ram. If you start piling parts up onto an ancient 2500k you might as well just go and buy a new cpu that will run rings around it.

>>60053624

Can't go far wrong with any cooler of that class really. /g/ memes the hyper evo 212 but its had its day - there are better coolers for the same money.

>>60053567
my eyes actually autistically notice every minor graphical fuck up.
that's why i invest into all this g-sync meme in the first place,v sync fucked with me for a long time.
i wish i could have pleb eyes it would save me a lot of money.

>>60053519
Freesync monitors at 1440p are like $150-$350 less than Gsync. Maybe $100 less on the worst case, I forgot.

Cheapest Gsync 1440p I'm seeing that's decent is $600. For Freesync it's $400-$500 for a few models.

>>60053683
distractions
high standards low skill

>>60053664
>there are better coolers for the same money
Any suggestions?

>>60053511
>artic silver 5
WHY DO YOU CUNTS NOT EVER GOOGLE ANYTHING TO SEE HOW IT COMPARES TO OTHER SIMILAR PRODUCTS HOW FUCKING DUMB ARE YOU.

I'm not helping you. You should donate your money to charity. You don't deserve nice things.

>purpose
Gayming + developing
>country
Ukraine

The budget is slightly over 1500$, considering the place all is overpriced here

CP: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X
Mobo: Asus Prime X370-Pro
Cooler: DeepCool GAMMAXX 400
Video: Asus PCI-Ex GeForce GTX 1080 Turbo 8GB
PSU: Chieftec GPS-650A8 650W
RAM: Kingston DDR4 2133 16384MB PC4-17064 (KVR21N15D8/16) (will add later up to 48gb as i work with VM's on daily basis)
HDD: Seagate BarraCuda HDD 2TB 7200rpm 64MB ST2000DM006
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo-Series 250GB 2.5" SATA III 3D V-NAND (MZ-75E250B)
Case: Corsair Carbide 200R

Won't PSU explode?

>>60053511
>no delidding kit
corelets tbhfam

>>60047194
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3L7Md6
Is this a good gaming build for a $1k budget?
>inb4 muh 1600x

>>60054191
Also, i don't see that particular ram stick on mobo QVL, but it's 2133 anyway. Am i fucked nevertheless?

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1440p 60hz. rpgs and 4x games. $1500 absolute limit, need new everything.

team red
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JtHp4C
$1350
>vs
team blue
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yyy8wV
$1450
not trying to reach extreme clocks, mainly want fast ram. ddr3 1600 to ddr4 3200 seems like a good jump.

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>>60053411
Help anyone?

>>60054283
>Shit motherboard.
>Stupid choice of CPU.
>2400 Mhz RAM for for Ryzen.
>Underage b& case
>Undersized SSD to buy in to muh m.2 meme.
Looking pretty good m8.

Rx 560 WHEN

>>60054283
why no cheaper case and ramp up the cpu instead? 1600 should be better in that case desu.

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im going to post it again because im really unsure i know what im doing.
please don't meme me into oblivion and just tell me what i can improve.
i want to buy it tomorrow.

how do the ryzen cpus perform against xeons?

>>60047723
i dunno man but he's a cutie i wanna know his name

>>60053411
200R has 3 optical bays,100R has 2
200R has 4 extra 2.5in HDD slots, 100R has none.
100r - maximum CPU Cooler Height 150mm
200R - Maximum CPU Cooler Height 165mm
Coolers such as Noctua NH-U12S or DeepCool GAMMAXX 400 won't fit in 100r
Also, 200r include front fan as well, while 100r only rear

>>60054468
You forgot the delidding service or kit.
Looks good otherwise, but you might be better off going with a cheaper 1500X/1600/1600X build.

>>60054390
>team red
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JtHp4C
Is going to give you the same/better at 1440p for $100 less, plus have lots more headroom left over for other shit running on your PC. So seems like the obvious choice.
Use the extra for a better monitor? There's $400-$500 freesync 144hz IPS monitors. Maybe you can still preorder that Nixeus for $400 idk. Not 32" but just move it closer on a Vesa mount or something.

On the Ryzen one, it looks like you chose a mATX board with an ATX case.

>>60054283
The least shit thing about this is the 1600X, as others pointed out.
A 1600X is fine if you want to spend more for higher stock clocks and might not want to OC. But there's so much wrong with that build, as pointed out.

>>60054191
550W would be far more than enough.

>>60053608
what cpu? 1700 has to be OC'ed to 3.8 to run 3200 stable

>>60054640
whats delidding?
is it the thermal paste between the cpu and cooler?

>>60054675
What about 2660 stable? I used to be able to run it like that from the start but the latest agesa update i can only run at 2400, even if my cpu is at 3.4GHz

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>>60054689
changing the paste between the heatsink of the cpu and pcb of cpu, aka removing the grey thingy over the cpu.

>>60054724
is it something i can do alone or is there a high chance of fucking it up?

>>60054703
gigabyte current bios is a bit unstable

http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/886/am4-beta-bios-thread

if you want to know more, id stay at 2133 for now 7% performance loss for couple weeks is not a big deal

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>>60054590
>his name
Lucky.
http://imgur.com/gallery/Qw8Vz here's the full comic for whoever makes next thread

DO NOT LEWD THE DRAGON.

>>60054743
you can do alone but high chance of fucking it up if you haven't watched lots of videos about it on internet beforehand (luckily there's a massive amount of them)
the 7700k will run very hot without delidding

>>60054743
The chance of fucking it up isn't super high. There are delidding kits that are like $25 to make it easier. $40 for someone else to do it for you.
You can do it with a razor blade and you need some adhesive to glue it back together. Just yeah, watch videos like the other anon said. With skylake it was never recommended... but now it's something you pretty much must do with them. And newer skylakes that were made have the same issue, apparently. It's due too having too thick of adhesive for the IHS that puts too much distance between the IHS and die more so than the shitty TIM quality itself (but boy it is shitty)

It voids your warranty no matter how you do it, though. Intel are Jews, making people void their warranties just to IDLE at acceptable temps.

>>60054821
>>60054743

Silicon Lottery offer a delidding service.

>>60054848
i live in bumfuck nowhere though and im not even sure the place i buy it from offers this service.
how crucial is it anyway?

>>60054763
too cute

>>60054875
Right now with Intel? Very important. Otherwise enjoy idling at 40C instead of 25-30C.

>>60055032
what about load temperatures

>>60054875

1) You can ship it to silicon lottery, they will delid, repaste and return

https://siliconlottery.com/

2) It only matters if you don't have a good cooler and want to hit 5ghz.

>>60055032

Oh noes 40c Idle. Delidding only matters when overclocking in practical terms.

>>60054875
>>60055046
It can be crucial even to run at stock speeds.. depends on luck.
Someone the other day was getting 43C idle temps at <1% load with a $120+ AIO.

I'm honestly really tired of going over this and how often we get people asking if their 45-55C idle temps on a 7700k are okay. No. They aren't. But that's what happens when you buy Intelaviv's shoveled shit.
That high of idle generally means well over 80C+ at load. At fucking stock. Meanwhile no one would recommend running a Ryzen CPU over 75C for long durations and they have no trouble staying under that temp.
I can ALMOST understand needing to delid to overclock, but this is fucking stock that they have these unacceptable temps.

If you really want to go Intel, I'd recommend just getting the locked 7700 with a Cryorig C7.

>>60055047
And yes, this is what I meant by delidding service. But, either way, it voids your warranty. Which seems to be Intel's entire strategy, here.

>>60055068

>Which seems to be Intel's entire strategy, here.

There is a reason why Intel solders all the important cpus they make. In addition it is a factor into why AMD builds the 4 core zen chips as 2 + 2 rather than a straight up monolithic 4 core.

>>60054763
https://www.msi.com/Landing/InstallationComic
This link has images of each individual panel.

>>60055094
Not quite the same, but yes it seems that AMD went 2+2 so there would never be a case where the 4 core heavily beats the 8 core.
desu it's hard to fault them on that, but it is sad.
We should see single CCX ungimped ones as Athlons at the end of the year, though.

>>60055244

>Not quite the same, but yes it seems that AMD went 2+2 so there would never be a case where the 4 core heavily beats the 8 core.

That is a factor but another huge one (and relevant for the delidding conversation) is 2 + 2 (with the disabled parts) offers enough surface area for solder to be worth it. These cpus are so fucking tiny solder isn't an especially viable option on these (relatively speaking) low surface area - and by extension, low core count - chips.

Considering that for ryzen 2 + 2 is the same as 4 + 4 surface area wise AMD can solder the fucking lot and then bin however the mood takes them. I'll have to brush up on the current Xeon range but iirc Intel don't currently make any 4 core xeons on the latest nodes/uarch.

>>60055330
I'm pretty sure they still make 4 core Iris Pro Xeons.

>>60055068
Is i7 7700 situation really that bad? I have i7 6700 at stock and meh cooler with only 2 heatpipes i get 20c at idle 40 to 50 at stress the highest i seen wa 55 and i already thougt that it is pretty hot for intel

>tfw you spent an hour lapping the heat spreader of your delidded 7700K to a mirror shine, only to realize you have to do the same with the bottom of the waterblock
ekwb's pretty good at quality control, right? I really don't want to spend another hour rubbing.

>>60055541

Why would you bother? The main point of lapping is to reduce the height of the IHS - the water block (and that delicious copper base) isn't going to change its thermal characteristics dramatically in practical terms.

>>60055495

>55c in stress test

Vidya =/= stress test. Go run IBT AVX and watch temperatures rocket.

>>60055596
Hm, should I reduce the height of the heat spreader's contact on the die itself by lapping the bottom edges of the spreader?

>>60054630
Are there any cases you would reccomend in that same price range though?

>>60055330
>iirc Intel don't currently make any 4 core xeons on the latest nodes/uarch.
They do, E3s are basically i7s with ECC support and few other workstation-tier features enabled.

>>60055330
>Intel don't currently make any 4 core xeons on the latest nodes/uarch.
Kek, my Xeon E3-1270 v6 begs to differ. If only Supermicro released a BIOS update so I can run it on my C232 motherboard already...

>>60055495
The 7700k? It seems to vary by where they were assembled and when. But lately we've been getting nothing but people that desperately need a delid just to run them stock. Forgot to ask them where they bought them from, and where it said they were assembled and shit.
I really don't care. I'm just so over it. It's annoying.

>>60055657
cases are tough. We could have a case general if it'd actually last a few days but /g/ threads die fast.
For anyone remotely technically savvy, they can pick out parts for the ideal PC for their needs in <15 minutes. Then cooler and case takes hours.

>>60055624

Not really - you don't want to risk crushing the die when you fix the block down.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J8fVTH
I need to get this down to $400 what can I do?

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>>60047194
Just bought a GTX 1080 Strix

Managed to have a stable 2030 overclock while GPU staying sub 70 c°

DId I did good /g/?

>>60055953
Drop the GPU. Wait for them to drop on sale closer to $100 again. Use the iGPU for now.

Get the 520w Seasonic M12II that's on sale for like $30 or less right now. MUCH better PSU.
Rosewill SRM-01 case? Was $20 earlier this week, not sure if it still is. Good case.
Get 2x4GB DDR2400 RAM even if it costs more. Anything else is retarded.

>>60056002
If it was <$450 yeah.

You people need to stop spreading false information about the 1500x
https://youtu.be/yeCKpBPvcN8

>>60056270
also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I2ZtitLnGQ

So the 1050 ti is not worth it what if that's all I can afford?

>>60056144
Well It was 660 dollar, but I sold the free redeem stuff what came with it, and now only 610.

For reference the cheapest GTX in my country cost $600 US but thats a reference design.

The normal GTX 1070 cost around $500

>>60056295
You should be able to get a 470 for the same price. The 1050 ti sells at a premium due to being the best GPU that you can use with PCI-e power only.

>>60056295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-SmvMykfR4
Rx 470/570 outperforms it by quite a lot for not much more.

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Thinking of upgrading my 4690K to a 7700K, but that would require me to get a new motherboard and RAM as well. A 4790K is roughly the same price as a 7700K. Should I just go for a 4790K or go all out?

Looking for a mouse to replace my MX518 that'a finally died. Low sens big movements FPS stuff and shitposting. G402 yay or nay?

>>60056546
Anything by zowie.

>>60056389
Go for the 4790K if you want to stay on a budget. Or a 5775C if you feel like a hipster

Can you buy the wraith spire cooler separately or does it only come with R7 CPUs?

>>60056628
It's a good cooler but not $30 good, it's not worth buying (and you can't buy it on it's own anyway)
It comes with the R7 1700, R5 1600 and R5 1500x

>>60056727
Oh, ok. I just like the way the LEDs look on the RGB model.

>>60056766
rgb is r7 1700 only

>>60056546
G402 is good if you like the shape / features.

is the msi or asus version of the 470/480 the only one worth getting? theres other versions of them and they're all like 30 bucks cheaper

is it really worth it to cough up the extra shekels for the 480?

Help me choose between 3 coolers: Noctua NH-D15, NH-D14, and dark Rock 3. Want to oc either a 6700k or 7700k to ~5.0.

>>60056938
also is it just me or did the 470 get a price drop? i see $200 ones on newegg and thats not even counting the sale. hell, one of them is even cheaper at $190 as a base price

Can anyone recommend some good, cheap KVMs? Preferably ones with IP connectivity for remote management?

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Hey, /g/uys, I'm retarded, can you help me with a gaming computer? Hoping for 1080p/60fps/High settings on most games released a couple years ago. Here's a shitty build I threw together, I'm sure it could be greatly optimized given a little help

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cCbVTH

4gb or 8gb 470/80? ;_;

do the extra gigs really help?

Anyone have an X370 Taichi? I'm trying to get the RAM in and I'm not sure how hard to press it. Do the clips automatically snap if I'm doing it right?

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>>60057079

Depends on the resolution mein neger. Doubt you could use more than 4 on the 470 anyway though.

>>60057028
you could save money by replacing the 1600x with a 1600 and overclocking manually (pretty easy with the ryzen master tool), also get more performances and still save money by replacing the gtx 1060 with a rx 580 (unless you need cuda or gsync)

With the $50 saved you could either go with a better cpu cooler (for higher clocks), better speaker (you seem to want audio quality...) or both

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>Already have 3200mhz RAM from my old i5 build
>Its not compatible with my x370 Taichi

>>60057079
4gb is currently fine if you're playing at 1080p. Chances are this situation is not going to change too much during the useful lifespan of a <$200 card.

>>60056940
>NH-D15
Of course.

>>60057232
NH-D15, for when you absolutely, positively want to bend your motherboard.

>>60057128
Might have gone a bit too extravagant on the soundcard, I wasn't sure if it was something worth sinking a little extra into. I wouldn't mind cutting back on simple things like that. I appreciate the advice, I'd probably go for a better CPU cooler

>>60056940
Get the thermalright le grand macho. At least as good as the best as coolers and cheaper.

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Cases-and-Cooling/Thermalright-Le-Grand-Macho-RT-Air-CPU-Cooler-Review

>>60057247
Literally has never happened.

>>60057028
Why do you need a $130 sound card and $12 speakers?

Why do you need a PCI ethernet card?

20" 1600x900 monitors to play at 1080p?

What the fuck is even going on here?

>>60057302
>What the fuck is even going on here?
You're eating delicious bait.

>>60057302
I am not a smart man. I scanned through popular parts, adding up to my budget, and planned to whittle it down from there. Trust me, I'm eager to learn, I just have a very faint idea of what's going on

is this a good model? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202277&cm_re=RX_580-_-14-202-277-_-Product

or i was thinking this
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD6H5ES5514&cm_re=msi_480-_-14-137-032-_-Product

going 480 4gb most likely

getting new CPU way the hell later

>>60057302
Revised

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tPf2NN

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>>60057414
>two cpu coolers
ANON

>>60057477
Aw geez, for real this time. I'm sure I could cut costs somewhere too

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HF49QV

>>60057284
What fan(s) should I get for it? I can only find the heatsink itself on amazon.

>>60057477
its so he can be twice as cool

>>60057553
RT version comes with a fan. If you can't find it you can get a 140mm PWM bequit silent wings, noctua, scythe slip stream.

>>60057525
Alright, i did a base build where everything is fine and balanced, this is the minimum you wanna get (unless you want to save lots of money) so it can only be improve upon. You can even ditch the unneeded fase can if you want.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MJtNFd

Now for the notes:
I didn't put a high end air cooler / water cooler, because the Ryzen cpus hit a voltage wall at 4.0GHz preventing them from going over it (voltage wall and not thermal). Which means there is very little chance your computer heats enough to require more than the $50 Noctua NH-L9x65 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler i put. This low profile cooler also has lower change of ripping your motherboard apart as you move your computer around (hello noctua dh-15)
I didn't put a PMW 140mm fan but instead a normal 140mm (can't control the speed) because 1. it's cheaper and 2. your casehas a fan controller built-in allowing you to set the speed of the case fans manually, so PMW is unneeded: you can control the speed at the front of the case.
Thermal paste unneeded because it comes pre-applied on the cooler (both stock & noctua one), and will improve temperatures by 2 - 3°C at best. Again, Ryzen is not thermally limited, so there is no point: it doesn't get very hot.
Getting a watercooler is still not a bad idea though as it could possibly be used for your next CPU upgrade.

Now, for the improvements: You can add a sound card in there, generally for $50 what is recommended is an Asus Xonar DG (or DGX, it's the same but one is PCIex1). If you don't already have a monitor then i'd recommend getting a 1080p Freesync one, as freesync is nice to have and doesn't cost anything. This 75hz one is quite popular on pcpartpicker:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hqmxFT/aoc-monitor-g2260vwq6
But there's lot of others, even 1440p or 144hz one. It's up to you.

For speakers i have no idea what is good, sorry.

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Is it possible to build a PC that can handle more than 32GB of RAM?

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What are the recommended PSU brands?

>>60057761
SeaSonic

>>60057683
You're a godsend, thank you

>>60057752
Of course.

>>60057761
Super Flower
Seasonic
FSP

>>60057801

Any recommended components?

>>60057819
ram

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>>60047194
7700k apu
GTX 1060
8 gigs of ram
500 gig samsung ssd
piece of shit 2.4 ghz usb 802.11 n adapter until I get my riser cable to relocate my 802.11ac nic from Asus.

some razr mech keyboard I bought for only $40 since it was a refurbed. It has been an excellent keyboard for the last 2 years I've had it. I get the leds are cheesy but it's fine and the housing is a nice discreet matte black.

Some lg 24 inch display I bought a few years back.

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>>60057837

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2tHnJV

how's this for 1080p gayming and general audio and video rendering?

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Boy I'm about to do it.

I prefer Intel/Nvidia to AMD.
Tell me why I'm wrong.

>>60058189
why do you prefer intel / nvidia?

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>>60058189
I don't know much about computers but it's nice to be open to new ideas sometimes anon. Needless to say, you do you. I hope you have a great day anon!

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>>60058189

>>60058210
I don't know,
It just feels right.
I've never used AMD before.
Always been an Intel Fag

>>60058161
>mobo
For the wifi?

>ram
3200mhz is 10 dollars more and way better.

>sandisk
Wouldn't trust it.

>case
I'd recommend the Define S over the R5 in your case. You don't need all the extra docking bays.

>psu
>paying extra for fully modular
Never understand why you guys keep doing this.

>>60058189
You're wrong because you have a worse price/performance doing that.

>>60058170
>tomahawk
Wish you luck, anon. Hope you don't get one of the many crappy ones.

>>60057863
thou must provide sauce

>>60058264
muh bedroom.

well /g/ I pulled the trigger. How badly did I fuck it up?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jDTj7h
Waited for a few sales and got the listed for just over $800 instead of what the link is showing

>>60058161
It's great, you might wanna add another 1TB hard drive which would come very handy so that you have one 1TB for OS & programs, one 2TB for audio & video projects, and the ssd for audio & video rendering cache. But it's up to you. I personally do that and having premiere pro not export & load from the same hard drive i have my programs & OS on makes it feel like i'm not doing any rendering at all

Why the x370 motherboard though?

>>60058246
brand loyalty then?
Intel is very jewish and fucked up the CPU market completely with their jewish tactics (oh, Athlon 64 outperforms anything we have for lower price, let's start bribing and modifying our compiler so that it performs worse on AMD), followed by 10 years of refreshed Intel Core architecture without even bothering to increase core count, lower price or do meaningful improvements. Nvidia is fine because even if they have a massive lead they still get insane cards out (gtx 980ti, 1070/1080/1080ti), though they do have their bad moment they're still fine. But intel will try no matter what to fuck you really hard in the ass and already have, so being loyal to intel seems pretty stupid to me.
No, AMD won't make your house magically catch fire or make your windows disappear from your hard drives. It's all micro transistors. The only thing that changes between brand is performance, power consumption, heat output and supported technologies, everything else in the same. It all comes down to your usage.

MSI Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming X (RX 580 Gaming X 8G) for 293,31 €
or
Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8GB Nitro+ (039448) for 348,71 €

>>60058368
msi without any hesitation. Whatever the Sapphire has to offer, it does justify the +50€. Also you should try checking for lower prices because those seem fairly high.

>>60058298
you're going to need at least half a terabyte of storage if you plan on playing modern AAA titles. DOOM takes over 80 gigs alone on my machine. Fucking sucks but I've been told is partly due to the huge textures they use now.

>>60058344
What about Nvidia performance on AMD builds?

>>60058387
>it does justify the +50€.
doesn't*

>>60058387
It is just greek pricing, so fucking retarded.. we are the poorest yurop country and have the most expensive hardware due to bullshit imports. These prices come from price comparison greek website.
Cheapest rx 580 is MSI Radeon RX 580 8GB Armor OC (RX 580 Armor 8G OC) for 262,74 € clocked at 1366mhz but i generally heard MSI has pretty shit drivers.

>>60058298
That PSU really isn't great and 700W is overkill for that build. Would have gone for a lower wattage with better build quality. Chances are it'll be fine, though. Wouldn't sweat it terribly.

Everything else looks pretty solid. Would have gone for a bigger SSD but if budget's tight then you've gotta cut somewhere. Assuming you have an HDD that's getting dropped in there?

>>60058424
it's not exclusive to AMD builds, also happens on Intel 6 cores and higher. And it's pretty rare so it took quite the time to be noticed.

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Welp. The fucking backplate doesn't fit onto the back of the mother fucking motherboard. My first build came to a sudden halt tonight. Shitty.

>>60058404
>80 gigs

damn I want to get into games but I don't want to spend 3 weeks downloading just a single one.

>>60058466
Anon, do you paint your nails?

>>60058447
Did I miss something?
What's wrong with Intel 6 cores?
I have the 5820k

>>60058487
It's nvidia, in some random games i you pair nvidia & 6 core or higher there's a possibility of the GPU not being used to it's max capacity so you end up with 60% usage. But again, it's very very rare.

>>60058404
>>60058446
I've got a 7200 1tb HDD to go in as well.
The PSU was on sale for ~45 USD when I got it, probably should have shopped around a bit more for something better

>>60058477
I smashed my damn thumb in my car door months ago. Now I'm fucking pissed because my fucking fan doesn't fit onto my mother fucking motherboard.

>>60058474
I think I only spent like an additional 15-20 bucks for my 500 GB samsung ssd. I bought it on black friday last year. Did ssds go up in price lately?

Anyways, even with half a terabyte I come real close to maxing out my storage.

>>60058506
Oh, good then. You're set, just put a few of your favorites on the ssd and the rest on the HDD.

>>60058515
what's the cpu cooler?

new thread when

Only three hundred replies faggot.

>>60058870
learn to quote, faggot!

I don't quote stupid posts.

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>>60058554
Cryorig h7

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>>60047194
First Time on /g/, be gentle please.

This is my first time building a PC and my budget is $800 but slightly flexible. Country is USA.
Games I want to play are Paradox interactive stuff, the Total War series but not warhammer. I want to be able to run Attila though. Also wold like to pick up some stuff like Fallout. Everything else I play will be much less taxing, this build is very much for the games I already listed.
I use OBS and Power Director very often. Will be with WIndows.
I want to have two monitors, at least 720p, preferably 1080. I only have 1 listed in the pic, but whatever is a good one, I will get two of them.

Thanks for the help senpais.

P.S. SOrry if this is common knowledge, but is the Ryzen 5 I picked at least as good as an i5?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xynNFd
Is Gigabyte still good?

>>60059004
outu.be/1ojR_kJde_E?t=55s
This guy's AM4 bracket seems different than your bracket, are you sure you have the right bracket? Maybe it's an AM3 one or something.

>>60059109
https://youtu.be/1ojR_kJde_E?t=56s

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Did I fuck up?

>>60059191
>MSI and Corsair
Wew. Tell me you didn't get a Corsair PSU.

>>60059053
you don't need an aftermarket cooler for the 1500X, it comes with a fine one. I'd get better RAM and go 4GBx2 for dual channel rather than a single stick. Maybe add an SSD for the OS and the smaller games. I never care for putting a smaller form factor board into a larger case but that's up to you.

>bought an EVGA fully modular PSU
>first build, following tutorials
>get to installing PSU
>cables have labels, okay
>which end goes onto the mobo/part and which end plugs into the PSU?
>manual only mentions pin numbers and is like 3 pages long
>only warning is "DON'T PLUG IN 2ND CPU BLOCK UNLESS YOU A REAL NIGGA"
>???

what the fuck am i doing?

>>60059208
I've had a CM 700w PSU for a couple of years now, never had an issue with it
Also what's wrong with that specific model of RAM?

>>60059432
Corsair ram is known to be iffy with some people, it's more of a hit-or-miss. Most of the higher end Corsair PSUs are fine, they're just rebrands. Plus it's a meme to hate on Corsair since they're products are overpriced.

>>60059457
*Their

>>60057363
Oh shit nigger, what are you doing? The 580 is literally the same thing for almost 100 burgers less.

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>>60047194

I don't know much about screen, what's the difference with IPS (and whatever is the alternative)? What are the pros / cons of it?

>>60047194
I'm building my first PC and I'm wondering if this build is a good budget build. I know some things are outdated, but I don't have much money.

Build I'm making:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FmbVTH

Pre-made Build: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6V659D8176&cm_re=FX-8350_desktop-_-9SIA6V659D8176-_-Product

The premade build seems nice also, but it doesn't specify what MOBO it has. So I'm kinda skeptical.

What I'm mostly worried about is compatibility issues. I know it says there are no issues found, but I tested that by adding a low wattage power supply and it still came up good. Any help is appreciated.

Should I go for the pre-made build ?

Has the 560 even been released yet?
It was supposed to be launched on April 18 but I haven't even seen it as "out of stock". It full on doesn't exist on either Amazon or NewEgg.

>>60059620
I can find the rx 550 pretty much everywhere but not the 560, weird. Doesn't looks like it has been released.

>>60059569
There are quite a few options now - you're better off googling the different technologies if you actually want to read about them.

In simplest terms, TN is cheap and has shitty image quality but is fast (good for 144hz+), IPS is more expensive and has better image quality but is not quite as fast (getting better though). Those are currently the two primary screen types for computers.

There's also OLED, MVA, PVA, PLS, and more, although these are less common.