/pcbg/ - PC Building General

SEASONIC PRIME TITANIUM 650TD

will this be enough for 390 Nitro?
kind of want it just to shut up my cx750, with R5 it's the only part that makes noise now

>>60014609
What's the a monitor with a good price/quality ratio, 1440p 60hz 27inch or above? Also needs at least 2 hdmi slots.

1700X on sale for $369 at microcenter, $100 off compatible motherboard, get a free B350 tomahawk with $10 rebate!!

http://www.microcenter.com/product/476004/Ryzen_7_1700X_34_GHz_8_Core_AM4_Boxed_Processor

>>60014622
i run a 390x and an i5 at 4.0ghz on a 550

> /pcbg/ - PC Building General
more like video games console assembly general

>>60014853
Would you prefer 50 threads a day by /v/idividuals who want to know if their build is fine?

>>60014828
>B350 tomahawk

There's a reason it's on sale.

>>60014828
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>>60014609
>There's been a huge upswing in disinformation in these threads
Just like the worthwhile cards have been dropped off the OP, eh?
>The Ryzen 1700 is the only R7 worth purchasing.
Sure thing.
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//You see a post and wonder who's behind it.

>>60014609
>for budget builds, consider a mATX setup for case/mobo savings
Holy shit, this. Nobody who only uses a single gpu and a moderately overclocked cpu needs full atx. Imo atx is for using a bunch of peripherals like a lot of hard drives, or sli/cf.

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Is this a good list of components for someone who doesn't play games at all but still wants to build their own PC?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/txC6Fd

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>>60014922
>copy pasted OP without reading

I won't do it again, anon.

>>60014962
I get triggered every single time I see somebody using a full ATX tower for a single GPU and a couple of hard drives.

>>60015006
Motherboard seems like an expensive choice considering the overall build and purpose.

>>60015006
You want more than 4gb of RAM 8 should be fine, you can get away with 4, but shit will write to disk all the time. Otherwise fine.
Check eBay for monitors. I got a 27" acer for $170AUD

>>60015046
Calm your autism bro, It's always good to have room for expansion

>>60015067
He has, 2x4gb ram, he's fine.

>>60015006
>>60015055
>>60015067
Changed my list around - case was mITX which limited my mobo options.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VQY9QV

I'll go look for a monitor on eBay but would like a good one and I don't think people sell good items on eBay anymore, at least not cheaply.

My 7850 died and retards want 150€ for a fucking 770 gtx where I live so I might try aymd again

What is the AMD equivalent of the 770/960 or something in that range good for the buck?

I just want 5-7k score on benchmark I will buy a proper card when they stop being shit that is overkill for 1080p or lackluster for 144hz/4k

>>60015116
I'm talking about used cards*

>>60015046
I buy full atx, then pick up a secondhand FX card later for maximum lifespan and savings.
>>60015109
Ah, I misread.
>>60015111
As long as it's not a Korean one you should be fine.
Make sure the seller also has a physical store.

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Will 550W suffice for b350 r5 1600 580 8gb nitro+ 2x8gb 3200mhz ram full overclocking build? Is Be Quiet System Power B8 550W 80plus for 56€ a reliable PSU?

>>60015006
basic specs are good. You might want to make the ssd 240ish gb, or get a cheapo hard drive, 500gb ought to do. You know your own storage habbits though.
Power supply is overpriced and shit btw.

>>60015116
RX470 4G is basically the cheapest card ever recommended for gaming, unless you are very specifically looking for something that is low power for old games.

>>60015181
if it works for this guy >>60014836
will work for you

>>60015181
The 600W version is reviewed here:
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/psu/90596-quiet-system-power-8-600w/

Looks like it isn't standout, but is decent enough and probably won't fuck things up.

>>60015116
HD 7970, r9 280x, r380 if you can find them at a decent price, and can make sure they weren't used for bitcoin mining. But only if you can find them wicked cheap. Otherwise I'd just go with a new Rx470/Gtx 1060 3gb, whichever is cheaper.

>btw there's gtx 960s in my area for $110US that could maybe be haggled a little.

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I've got a huge tower with an i5 2500k and an HD 7850. I'd like something at least as good but way more portable and under $700.

Specifically, I need to be able to finish the witcher 3 on it. Is the $600 NUC fast enough? If not, what small form factor pc's could I build?

Due to inexplicable events there is now a finger print in the tim on my wraith spire cooler. Is the best course of action to completely remove it and then reapply or try and patch it ?

>>60015319
nuc is shit.
here you go. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hfcbf8
size of an Xbox

>>60015319
A NUC won't have the graphics performance you need for gaming in general, and especially Witcher3.

A small mITX build will probably suit your needs - spend some time looking at different mITX cases and pick one, and then find parts that will be compatible. Many mITX cases can be configured to fit full size graphics cards.

>>60014880
I'd rather the mods do their fucking jobs and ban motherfuckers who post these threads and any threads like it. They have *nothing* to do with /g/; these people are just reading from a tier list.

The same goes for private tracker threads, headphone threads, watch threads, battlestation threads, desktop threads, any threads concerning CPU benchmarks for games, etc. Every single one of those belongs on a different board.

what's a cheap case with good dust protection and airflow?

>>60015496
reapply, possible air bubbles

>>60014707
bump
surely one of you fuckers can tell me

>>60015608
Don't overstate shit.
>>60015496
It'll be fine. You can wipe off 40% of the paste and still have OK temps.

>>60015590
Sounds like you should probably just find another forum more dedicated to the specific topics you're interested, friend.

>>60015608
Thanks anon.

My RAM comes tomorrow so I might be able to post pictures of my first build ever if people are interested

>>60015590
You're retarded. Unless and until 4chan makes a board specifically dedicated to consumerism, every single board is going to have discussions about purchasing board-related products which is perfectly valid.

On /v/ they talk about buying consoles and handhelds.
On /fit/ they talk about buying protein and steroids.
On /out/ they talk about buying boots and tents.
On /fa/ they talk about "copping" clothes.
On /p/ they talk about buying cameras and lenses.
On /o/ they talk about buying cars.
On /ck/ they talk about buying knives and pots.
On /n/ they talk about buying bikes.

And on /g/ we talk about buying electronics.

If the only thing you want to see on /g/ is GNU/Linux discussion, then just stay in the GNU/Linux general.

>>60015672
Post it in the GUTS thread.

Swefag here, I got a PC for vidya, but I havn't upgraded any parts for a few years now, and I can feel that while having two monitors and playing WoW on one monitor and doing anything else on the other.

My junk is
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750Ti
Intel i5-2500k CPU @ 3.30 GHz 4cores
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 8GB
And some Asrock motherboard I got for free that I can't even find the name for right now

Got a budget of about 1000 euros/dollaros, doesn't need to be top end stuff but I just want some better stuff overall and some new SSD's, and no AMD please, the one I had before melted

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>>60015194
>>60015288
>bitcoin mining.

Welp, I forgot about that, fuck AMD

I got some guy with a 65€ 770 (2GB)

Should I?

I was pretty happy with my 7850, the only shit it could not play was witcher 3 and a couple more shits and I guess the 770 will since its 200% the cpubenchmark and shit and I will stay at 1080p/60hz for a while

So im selling my Pentium G3260 as well, which should net me a good 30$ or so
With the rx460 selling at what i presume will be 70$, whats the best PC i could get for around 100$.
Everything but a GPU included.
It doesnt have to be powerful, id be using a Gt 710
Im thinking just another core2duo machine, maybe core2quad if theyre cheap.

>>60015934
If you're feeling limited in multitasking, you need to bump up your CPU game.

If you won't buy anything AMD, the only real recommendation is to go all the way up to the i7 7700k.

>>60015996
If you want a full build for $100 your only option is to scan used sales in your area and buy whatever is best. There's nothing /g/ can recommend since we don't know what is available in your area.

>>60015934
do you want to spend the whole $1000? because your setup is salvageable.
You could buy a beefy cpu cooler, crank that puppy up to 4.5ghz, get a new gpu and ssd. just doing that will make your system feel brand new.

>>60016062
I got a Cooler Master V8 CPU cooler, is that good?
And you mean overclocking the CPU to 4.5 or buying a new one?
Any gpu you'd recommend? Preferably I'd like to keep myself to nvidia since I never had a problem with those, as my former grapic card HIS Radeon HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 actually melted after about a month,

>>60015265
There is also CoolerMaster Elite 600W for 49 and Corsair VS series VS550 for 50 however i have heard the Corsair VS series is chink shit. Is EVGA 600W with 80 PLUS any good? It's the same price as the Be Quiet one but has 0 comments on the greek price comparison website im at. I'd rather generally not go over 60€ on a PSU here's a link on what PSU's i'm looking at http://www.skroutz.gr/c/30/psu-trofodotika/f/405607/%CE%91%CF%80%CF%8C-501W-%CE%AD%CF%89%CF%82-650W.html?order_by=pricevat&order_dir=asc&page=6

>>60016140
The problem with going only nvidia here is your GPU choice for something actually new would be worse than the AMD equivalent in a few ways

You would be best off with an Rx480, which is comparable to a GTX 1060 but the 1060 is more money and performs worse in some games. A 580 would be a fantastic choice but again the only nvidia competitor is the 1060, which performs worse than the 580 and costs more.
You had a housefire of a GPU. Like A 280x or an HD7790 with a blower cooler. AMD has yet to make a housefire this generation
(though its gonna happen soon, looking at that 585x2 concept)

Get a 480 or 580, slap a good cooler on your 2500k and overclock the bitch, then youre good to go for a while.
Your 2500k is getting old and an upgrade would be nice but right about now we're looking at 3 generations of Intel processors that dont have shit in performance gains.
An i7 4790k is only about 15% slower than a 7700k is for example.

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Can I really overclock Ryzen 1600 with stock cooler and use it comfortably or it's just a meme?

>>60016261
yeah, you can. stock cooler is the best product to come out of ryzen, by far. followed by the 1600. so you're good

>>60016261
You can, just not as good as with a more beefy cooler. You can get a decent OC on stock with moderate temps but a good aftermarket cooler can bring it further and get even better temps.

>>60016246
Do I dare to go Radeon again after having my previous one melted? the 1060 is like 20 euros more expensive for me.

I should probably get some more RAM though, I keep being around 90% memory use when I do my usual stuff on the computer.
I guess I'll wait with the i7 or whatever and get myself a decent SSD

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Currently have a non-modular PSU in this thing and it's taken up a lot of space. I need to use that PSU for another build anyways, so I need a replacement.

Is a SFX PSU worth the price premium to give the case even more space? Or is a normal modular one good enough?

>>60016261
Depending on silicon lottery you can go up to 3.8GHz +/- 100MHz on the Spire with confortable temps (not Intel's 90C+ "this is fine" temps) as long as your case has a half decent airflow.

I'd say it's on par with $20 solutions like the Artic Freezer Pro. No wonder third parties didn't want AMD to release the Max on retail (it's OEM only for now) given how it has $30 worth of cooling potential.

>>60016160
Are you going to overclock the CPU? If not, the Seasonic 520W might actually be the best choice as it should have no issues handling an RX580 and looks like the best build/performance out of those options, and with a 65W CPU + 225W GPU you'll still only be at about 60-70% capacity at load.

Here's a good review of that PSU in particular:
http://en.gecid.com/power/seasonic_m12ii-520_bronze_evo_edition_ss-520gm2_2015/?s=all

>>60016246
the 1060 beats the 580 by 7% overall in avg frames and 1.2% in 10% lows. what a tard.

>>60016359
radeon nowadays is fine. The 580 is a bit less known to be reliable than the 480, though. And 1060 is a solid choice. Heck, I own 7

>>60016364
nah, go EVGA G2 (quieter and cheaper) or G3 (smaller and more efficient) and never buy a PSU again.

>>60016385
this is a legit comment. Only cooler I own (out of many) that I'd put over the stock under $40 is the Arctic Freezer i32.

>>60016359
The current cards are not high wattage housefires. While ill agree that AMD really loves to put out high wattage nightmares, the 480's and 580's are not those. The 480 is around around 150w tdp i think.

If you are using 1080p, go with a 4gb 480/580, 8gb is not needed for 1080p at all. If you go with a 1060 for the love of god do not buy a 3gb GPU in 2017, quite a lot of stuff still does need over 3gb and we should be sending a message that 3gb is retarded. The 3gb 1060's are also lower binned chips and dont perform as well as the 6gb ones.

While i would personally recommend a 4gb RX 480, a 6gb GTX 1060 is still a good option, you'd just be paying more for about the same performance. But if you prefer nvidia and youre willing to spend that bit of extra money, nothing wrong with that.
Same reason i spend 2$ more per pack on cigarettes, i prefer a specific brand over other options.

>>60016442
3gb are binned AND throttled. yet they do perform better than the 480, and 2% worse than the 580 overall in 1080p. 2% better and 5% worse in 1440p.

>>60016442
>a 6gb GTX 1060 is still a good option
Is this the one you mean? Cause I been eye-ing this one for the last hours
https://www.komplett.se/product/897294/datorutrustning/pc-komponenter/grafikkort/pci-express/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-armor-oc#

>>60016290
>>60016338
>>60016385
Thanks. I only want 60fps in games so I guess I'll be fine? Also, do I need x370 mobo for stable overclock or b350 will be enough? I'm thinking about getting Asrock B350 Fatality one but I heard there's some problems with vrm? So I wonder if it's fine to do 1600 oc with it.

>>60016412
Well since i'm getting the R5 1600 i'm definitely going to overclock it with its stock cooler which i read is pretty powerfull. I will also be overclocking the motherboard to take 3200mhz of RAM. I don't really care about the build being quiet but i don't want any of my poorfag decisions to fuck up my build.

>>60016494
I'd go gigabyte, but Asrock probably second. ASUS are okay, but shit customer service, and MSI has like 3 power phases.

>>60016494
B350 is enough if you are going to use the stock Spire cooler and expect a 3.7 or 3.8GHz OC without cranking up voltages too much. Get X370 only if you're expecting to go beyond that (which will need an aftermarket cooler anyway) or if you absolutely need either SLI/CF support or the additional I/O.

>>60016556
A high quality B350 can hit 4 on 1600 chips just fine. It's the chip that is the decider.

>>60015689
>Consoles and handhelds
That's basically what people talk about in these threads. People here aren't asking about rare or hyper-niche hardware.

Not every little thing that is tangentially related to electronics belongs on this board.

Torrents have an entire fucking board dedicated to them. Headphone threads have very little discussion to do with technology other than they're electronic. They belong on /mu/. Watch threads rarely discuss anything more than the aesthetics of watches. They belong on /fa/. /wg/ already does regular desktop threads, and they could probably fit battlestation threads, too ($500 chairs are not technology). Desktop threads were not allowed years ago and it was a good decision they should have never quit enforcing. Threads about benchmarks for games belong on a board for games; they are not complex discussions about topology or VLSI, they're people rehashing the same pseudo-intellectual points over and over again. Send them to /v/. Chinese buying threads belong on /biz/, in the same way we banned cryptocurrency discussion from here 4ish years ago.

If you think Linux is the only thing to discuss here outside of buying shit, leave /g/. Please, talk about anything other than this bullshit. Talk about networking, security, machine learning, robotics, electrical engineering, hand-built hardware, custom OSs and languages, or large projects you've been a part of. Yes, these are slower topics and the board would be slower, but that's not an issue when they're not getting slid 24/7 by retards like you who think this board exists for their consumerism threads.

We don't shit up /trv/ with two pages of threads about cars and car parts because "you need a car to travel." Please extend /g/ the same courtesy.

>>60015659
The problem with forums is that usernames and non-opaque administration turn them into a circlejerk, because very skilled people often don't get the recognition they truly deserve, and so they take it out on their userbase.

>>60016710
You need to strike gold for that though, I've seen a couple of people having trouble cranking their 1600 beyond 3.7GHz on B350. That's why I mentioned X370, as the extra power phases and better VRM heatsinks can help with stable OCs beyond 3.8GHz if you happen to get a meh chip.

Also, to tame expectations. People forget really easily that reviewers will always get the highest binned shit from the manufacturer and real life results might be really different.

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Redpill me on motherboards /pcbg/.

The budget build I'm making uses a G4560 and will run fine on a board from h110 to b250, but if i want an upgrade path is it better buy a b350 board now for $30 more?
Is the b350 needed for Ryzen or is it just for overclocking?

>>60016522
Main problem is that everything in that price range around 600W is going to be using cheaper chinese parts in order to hit that price point and often won't even meet ATX spec for all requirements on PSU power handling.

It's not that a 500W PSU won't work (it'll run at higher load than is maybe ideal), or a chinese 600W won't work, it's that you're running slightly higher risk of having problems than you would having a quality PSU with a little more headroom.

A 1600 at full overclock + a 580 will be running over 400W at full load.

any anons know of some aussie sites for good deals? fuck paying a fuck ton for a graphics card that's only for hardware acceleration & rendering
...and probably a bit of emulators or something

>>60016913
I see, i can possibly stretch a bit to the 70-75€ price range. I don't really care however for the 80 plus gold just to possibly get a return after 3-5 years of use. Can you check this greek price comparison website for a cheapest reliable recommendation? Would really appreciate it greek commenters give 5/5 on Corsair VS series just because it's Corsair.
http://www.skroutz.gr/c/30/psu-trofodotika/f/405607/%CE%91%CF%80%CF%8C-501W-%CE%AD%CF%89%CF%82-650W.html?order_by=pricevat&order_dir=asc&price_max=100.0&price_min=50.001

If you had the opportunity to buy a WD Gold, would you get it over the WD Black? Are they strictly better?

>>60016414
>Calls other people tards
>Unironically suggests the EVGA G2
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/585894-why-you-should-not-purchase-the-evga-g2-lineup-especially-in-homes-with-frequent-brownouts/
Bad advice general.

>>60016904
The fast check on upgrade path is making sure every CPU you are interested in is on the same socket.

B350 has an AM4 socket for AMD Ryzen processors. The G4560 will not fit and is not compatible.
H110 and B250 have LGA 1151 sockets for Intel processors. The G4560 will fit and MAY be compatible.

First you need to pick the right socket, then you should check the motherboard CPU compatibility list to ensure the CPU you are choosing is listed. 99% of the time if the CPU fits the socket it will be compatible, but this is not 100% the case.

While you're looking at the CPU compatibility list, you can see what other processors the motherboard will support so you can know what your options will be when upgrading in the future.

>>60016869
Odd, from what i've read X370 does not benefit overclocking at all and is only for SLI, future proofing ports, extra sata's, better onboard network/sound cards.

>>60014707
b u m p

>>60017111
That's what I've read too, but I guess it may help a little bit with better quality components and better power delivery so you don't need to use toasty voltages.

>>60017111
But having more power phases is directly related to overclocking?

>>60017192
Most have at least 2 hdmi slots.
First check for anyone possibly selling a used one since some are upgrading to 144hz or 4k.
Beyond that price for a new one depends on your country, if you're in europe i think dells are pretty cheap and good quality

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>>60017075
Following up on this - here's the two 2TB options side by side

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>>60017286
And here's the 4TB option.

>>60017255
thanks desu
I'm in australia so anything decent will cost me an arm and a leg. Let a 27inch 4k screen for $350 slip me by a few weeks ago, been kicking myself since.

>>60017249
Well, i'd expect motherboard manufacturers to at least mention their more expensive models benefiting overclocking so they can sell more of those but oddly enought they don't. Check Asus http://edgeup.asus.com/2017/02/22/ryzen-am4-motherboard-guide/

So if I am only gaming, would getting a 1700x be worth it? I can get it for $264.99 while a 6700k will cost me 269.99. Also buy 1080ti or give vega a chance?

>>60017341
I'd give vega a chance first. If you have the budget, I'd go for a 1700x.

>>60017341
If you gonna get Ryzen than go for full AMD build.

>>60017042
If I had to pick something from that site for your build, I would go with the Seasonic S12II-620, but to be honest I am surprised at those prices and selection - I guess Greece is fucked?

The S12II-620 has a good quality build, but and old design that doesn't perform as well overall as newer designs like the SSR-650RM which is only $77 in the US.

>>60017341
A 1700x at that price is a steal, as long as it's not second hand and therefore a potential dud. GPU is up to you, depends if you want to play the waiting game for at least a couple of weeks.

>>60017386
Finding good midrange PSUs in Europe is a fucking pain. EVGA, Antec and Seasonic are only officially releasing stuff here since a couple of years ago or so (mostly their high wattage stuff) and their price is highway robbery. For quite long you could only chose between whatever Corsair model was flavour of the month or just go with taiwanese brands like Aerocool or local brands with chink manufacturing like Nox

>>60017386
>I guess Greece is fucked?
Sapphire rx 580 nitro+ costs 385€ here so...
also greece is the poorest yurop country with min wage being 300€. I've been hardcore saving for 2 years to build this r5 build.

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I absolutely have no idea what GPU to get, it's insane. Been running my Intel HD 630 for over a month now and I can't seem to find a sweet spot GPU to go with my build. RX 580 are seriously overpriced at the moment and 1070/1080 are stupidly expensive.

>>60017684
Go for RX 480 same card as 580 just lower clocked. Maybe you can find a used one from some idiot upgrading from 480 to 580. Also if you aren't going for anything more than 1080 the 4gb versions will work fine.

>>60017684
>seriously overpriced
They're at about 480 price levels for a better card. What are you talking about?
If you've already joined team red retard then you should be accustomed to waiting. So if you want to wait for Vega, then just do that. Otherwise get a 580 and look out for sales if you can't handle it.

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>>60017746
I don't like buying used stuff, and the 480 are the same price as the 580 at the moment.

>>60017747
In the US maybe but here in Europe it's around 290-350€.
>If you've already joined team red retard
I mentioned Intel HD.

>>60017684
What's your monitor?

>>60017796
1080p 60hz but I might upgrade to 1440p in the future who knows. That's why going RX 480 doesn't sit too right with me if I already feel limited by it in 1-2 years.

>>60017862
No point in getting 1440p 60hz at this point, either go 4k 60hz IPS or 1440p 144hz IPS both of which run at $400

an RX 470 through the 580 would be fine, a 4GB 480 is going to be the sweet spot

Maybe we can update OP's GPU section with something a little bit more specific so the same questions aren't asked over and over again.

>MOBA/CS:GO
RX550, RX560, consider IGP if extremely budget constrained
>1080p60
RX570 / 1060 3GB
>1080pFreeSync or 1440p60
RX580 / 1060 6GB
>1440pFreesync
Used or clearance R9 Fury (X) / 1070 / 1080 / Wait for Vega
>4K
1080Ti, consider SLI from previous tier if you already have one
>But anon, that card won't run this shitty game on Ultra!!111
Go up one tier

>>60017862
Yeah. I'd totally base my GPU buying decisions on a monitor I might get a year or two in to the future, possibly, maybe. Wise decision there famalam. Trying to future proof with tech that moves as quickly as GPUs is always super smart. Just like you.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDZNXRAtXs0
was it worth the wait?

I already own an RX 480. If i buy a vega when it comes out for 1440p gaming, what should I do with the RX 480 besides sell it?

>>60017901
I agree with this. There's no reason to go 1080/60 to 1440/60 when you'd have to buy both a more expensive graphics card and a replacement monitor. Either stick with 1080p and get a cheaper card, or go 144hz or 4K and get top end.

>>60017972
Monitors move way slower than GPUs though. You don't have to be a faggot.

>>60018042
Do you already have a 1440p monitor?

How much am I fucking myself over if I buy ram on sale before I buy the rest of my ryzen build? Damn ram issues and jew prices are awful.

>>60018127
Yes but what if I didn't?

>>60018156
If you didn't there'd be no point in buying one

But in any case you could use the 480 as a coaster

So I got 4 slots for RAM in my computer, and I know I need more than 8GB of RAM at this point, can you mix different brands/models of RAM with the 2 I have or do I either need to buy the same one I got or a new 16/ two 8's?

is it really that big of a deal to spend $100 3200mhz ram for ryen? it seems likes its a complete waste

>>60017954
Although I wouldn't personally recommend the 1060 3GB, I'm generally OK with this. Just like with CPUs, there's tons of shit on the market but really there are only a few options that hit the sweet spot to make them worth buying.

At least 90% of builds fall into these tiers:
CPU: G4560 -> R5 1600 -> R7 1700 / i7 7700k
RAM: Cheapest 8GB -> 8GB@3000+ -> 16GB@3000+
GPU: IGP / RX560 -> RX 470/570 4GB -> RX 580 8GB / 1060 6GB -> FuryX / 1070 / 1080 / Vega -> 1080Ti / SLI

And then there's a tiny group of specific-usage needs like the i3 7350k, 1800x, 32gb+ ram, tri / quad SLI.

This of course is how logical increments started, because it became obvious pretty quickly that most build advice was very repetitive.

>>60018216
no, 2400 mhz is enough. You won't really notice any higher speeds.

>>60018216
how about you learn to spell intel cuck

>>60018201
You can mix but they won't pair the same, so they will probably be a bit slower than if everything was the same.

>>60017954
hey, I wrote the OP, and I'll consider it. I'll probably modify this and fix its inaccuracies.

>>60014609
help me /g/
i unironically want this card http://www.galax.com/en/graphics-card/10-series/galax-geforcer-gtx-1070-katana.html

>>60018201
There is a reason they sell em in 2x8gb deals usually, it's better if it's the same model.

>>60018253
thats what i thought
also i just found this http://www.anandtech.com/show/8959/ddr4-haswell-e-scaling-review-2133-to-3200-with-gskill-corsair-adata-and-crucial

>>60018243
>i7 7700k
into the trash with that shite

>>60018300
I know it's
>linus
but still, it's a good test imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Yt4vSZKVk&t=309s

Hi /v/
Is the Pentium g3258 good enough to play the Hyperdimension Neptunia games?

>>60018339
yes but idk why you'd buy it new

>>60017901
>>60018072
I see, thanks for the insight.

>>60018363
I'll buy it used

>>60018339
Yes, definitely.

>>60018412
Thanks

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Do NOT de-lid your PSU.

You could DIE.

>>60018283
no you don't, it's a blower without direct exhaust
even worse than reference

>>60018300
that's not ryzen though
http://www.eteknix.com/memory-speed-large-impact-ryzen-performance/

>>60018283
That would be cool if you wanted your PC to sound like a plane about to take off. Also kek @ the HOT SURFACE sticker.

>>60018473
ah my b thanks. though i wish they would benchmark with an amd gpu

>>60018410
get a G4560 for fucks sake

is there an up to date mouse tier list anywhere? in desperate need of a new one

Any recommended 700W+ PSUs?
Super Flower's seem pretty good, but I'm hoping to look for something a tad bit cheaper.

Where do I get DDR3 ram without the massive markup?

>>60014828
tomohawk is shit boot time and etc
google problems with ur part b4 u buy

>>60018635
Saw one recently but didn't save it.

IMO short version is buy something from Zowie, Logitech Gaming, or Razer. If you have specific questions about some other mouse then ask.

>>60015590
This

>>60018692
Used.

I'm thinking about either rx 570 or gtx 1060 right now.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/brH2NN

I think both cards will be enough for my needs (starcraft 2, moba, diablo 3 etc). I may or may not want to have cuda for some machine learning shenanigans but I'm not sure. What would be more "future proof" (can still run games like that in 6-7 years halfway decent)

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Is it fine?

>>60017286
>>60017304
Anyone?
If you've bought a WD Gold or Black I'm interested in your opinion.

https://www.umart.com.au/newsite/goods.php?id=36824

is this memeory compatible with ryzen 5?

>>60018762
Yup. Any specific goal in mind, like reducing costs or getting more bang for the buck?

>>60018861
I think the only pricey thing is mobo but I get it for possible future upgrades, better overclocking and better network and sound as a bonus. Still not sure about 580, maybe it's better wait for Vega.

any good ryzen mobos with wifi?

>>60019007
yeah, but they're expensive, look at the X370's

>>60019031
damn i guess ill just go with an external wifi

>>60018932
The only thing I'd do would be scaling back the PSU for a 550W or 600W one if it was significantly cheaper. Mobo is fine in price/features compared to your average 100€ B350 board.

>>60019050
they're usually better

My PSU just died and I need a new one - what do I need for a GTX 1080 (Buy later) currently on P5K-VM, Xeon E5450, 8GB PC2-6400 and a Sapphire R7 260X O/C Edition (+7.4% to stock) and 4 SATA HDDs

How much will I need?

I'm currently using 2 PSU, 1 for 3 HDD other mobo, CPU, GPU and 1 HDD

>>60019142
>Xeon E545
>8gb of ddr2

I hope you intend to upgrade ya know, everything else first

otherwise for a single gpu system, 550w gold rated or better with two 6+2 pins for maximum compatibility with models including the reference 8 pin cards and oc 8+6 pin ones

>>60018692
slavlands
it's same price as pre ddr4 here, not sure how many people even buying it but it's in stores

Are there lists of compatible memory for Ryzen 5?

Anyone know?

>>60018762
нe бepи ripjaws doesn't work most of the time at 3200

i'd get OEM, single sided, samsung and OC it
same thing as under those radiators
but much cheaper

ie M378A1K43CB2-CRC

>>60019279
so just found this:

>"AMD seems to have obtained good internal results with some 2933, 3200, and 3500 MT/s rated memory configurations, namely 16GB kits based on Samsung "B-die" memory chips. Potential kits that AMD has tested to pair well with Ryzen include Geil EVO X (GEX416GB3200C16DC [16-16-16-36 @ 1.35v]); G.Skill Trident Z (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR [16-18-18-36 @ 1.35v]) and the Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 (VERSION 5.39 [16-18-18-36 @ 1.35v])."

https://www.techpowerup.com/231518/amd-shares-details-on-ryzen-ddr4-memory-support-and-upcoming-am4-updates

>>60019218
No need yet, all games I run are only GPU limited, including Project Cars, Doom, GTA V

As long it stay at 60% CPU usage I am good, that CPU is a beast believe it or not but I plan to buy a cheap DDR3 board with the RAM and a good Xeon/i7 4.0GHZ for cheap when I could afford it - just waiting for the GTX 1080 to drop

My base isn't that bit - Biggest I had in it is a 8800GTX and I had to remove the metal handle

550W, got it thanks

>>60018831
yeah, but not work at 2933 for now, depending on your board
check QVL a lot of g.skill stick works fine even if not in qvl

>>60019319
>yeah, but not work at 2933 for now
what did he mean by this? People ARE getting 2933 on Ryzen RIGHT NOW

>>60019355
not with ALL modules

you never know, thing may be in QVL but not support 2933 without tweaking
some say you got to OC non x CPU to at least 3,8 for it to work, others bump voltage and it
runs fine

and it may just work out of box, 2933 is much much easier to make run than 3200 though
not that it changes real world performance that much

Why are the ryzen 5 1400 and the 1500x so expensive for what they are, the 1400 should be $150 and the 1500x should be $170

>>60019318
did you oc it? i was planning to buy and oc 5450 for my lga 775 mobo but i realised for a little more i can just get better ipc sandy bridge i3 + mobo + ram

>>60019582
so glad i got the 1600

Might be a bit unrelated, but is doing PC formats as maintenance still a thing?

>>60019678
no

>>60018650
G2 or G3 are the best bet. Or RMX

>>60019620
Never needed to, still runs flawlessly, no need to buy else, go for a E5460 even - worth buying it - mine I paid 45$ delivery included

>>60014609
I have an r9 280x, play at 900p.
Want to get a new gpu, thinking of getting an gtx 980 or 980 ti second hand.

Also have an fx 8350, thinking of upgrading to ryzen or intel. But honestly, I've seen a shitload of benchmarks between the 8350 and ryzen and intel cpus (with the same gpu) and it doesn't looks like it's worth buying a new board, cpu, and ram just for gaming.

>>60019879
Get an ASUS ROG STRIX Geforce GTX 1060 for smooth gameplay.

>>60019770
i think you mean X5460 - it's minimally better but uses more power, so im
E5450 is about 20$ on ebay/aliexpress. you should definitely oc if you have the cooler

>>60019938
But the 980 ti is faster (same as the 1070) and I can get one for around the same price on ebay.

>>60019954
Same price as a 6gb 1060, I mean.

>>60019954
Yes but are missing out on the benefits of Nvidia's latest Pascal architecture.

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Whelp. The Gigabyte Aurous gaming K5 is a garbage heap of a motherboard. Wouldn't wish it on an enemy. all the flash and flare of better boards, with none of the actual performance. Returned the 1700 and gigashit board to microcenter today. Only returned the chip because I needed to to get the $50 off the new board. Or so I thought! They started their "$100 off any Mobo" bundle again for the 1700X/1800X.

I paid $50 more and walked out with a 1700X and Asus ROG board. My old am3+ cooler mounted without issue too.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/SithZero/saved/cNdP6h
How expensive do you think vega will be?
Any way to drop it to below 500?

>>60020027
I only had to buy 1 Z270 board.

>>60019982
Is that really going to matter for someone playing at 900p?
I hear that nvidia is releasing the 2080 ti, 2080, and 2070 this years... so I may even wait for a cheap 1070 if pascal is a big deal.

>>60020057
Same when I was on Z170. It's not that that the gigabyte board didn't work. It was simply missing BIOS features that I feel should be fucking standard by now. I.e. manual voltage control, proper voltage stepping, Load Line Calibration, etc.

>>60016246
>>60016140
>>60016359
He stated he plays WoW and Nvidia is like 20-30% (that is, 1060 was about 20-30% better than a 480) better there. Sucks, but that's the reality with Blizzard games.

>>60016773
Fuck off faggot. This isn't your secret clubhouse.

Hey /pcbg/,

What's a good CPU/GPU configuration for a 16GB Ram machine?

>just wait on vega

https://youtu.be/LE4gibDSMFw

>>60020376
i7 7700k and 1080 ti.

how long does the sticky back on RGB light strips last for?

>>60020504
How dare you don't recommend Ryzen? Where the fuck do you think you are?

>>60020572
Literally faster. Who the fuck cares it's just a hunk of silicon.

>>60020594
>Literally faster
Depends. On single core applications and gaming? Yes. Everywhere else? No.

Plus price/performance is a thing.

Is Ryzen 1600 actually good for games?

>>60020027
>960 EVO

For what fucking purpose?

>>60020689
yes, believe it

believe the h y p e

>>60020027
get a fuggen taichi muh d00d don't dug roung wid da asus stuf

>>60020832
Stop drinking.

>>60020844
i don't drink alcochpol i jusgt type for fun cuz i got one hand n asus mobo suck and my iq is high

Any estimates on Vega pricing?
Trying to figure out if it's worth it over the 580.

>>60020998
If you're just going to do 1080p gaming don't even look at the Vega lmao. It's for the rich folk with the 1440s and the 4Ks

>>60020998
They wouldn't (shouldn't?) leave huge gaps in their GPU pricing so taking into account the 580 is in the $200 to $300 bracket depending on RAM, clock and binning I'd say Vega could start on $350 for a cut-down or Nano-like version (maybe with just 4GB HBM2 instead of 8GB) to $400 for a full air cooled chip to $500 for the water-cooled housefire. Maybe this time they'll go the extra mile and give us a Vegax2 monster like the 295x2. IIRC they had that one planned for Fiji but never got to actually releasing it.

>>60021062
Why not though? Vega will be about as powerful as 2070 which is a minimum for comfortable 1080p gaming with proper AA at 60fps and it will ensure you can play new games for at least few years ahead. What are gonna do with 580 after two years?

>>60020692
Because I can. Dedicated work space drive for when I edit video/photos/encode Blu-ray rips. It's not a 1TB because they were all out when I went to buy one.
>>60020832
Taichi board is not in stock anywhere. Even microcenter only had 1 and it was open box. I don't do open box. Not anymore. Not since.....It happened.

>>60021138
>Vega will be about as powerful as 2070
lol

>>60021138
>What are gonna do with 580 after two years?
Not the anon you replied to but, keep on using it? I mean, it's not like AMD cards slip to legacy support and shit the bed performance-wise the second a new architecture hits the market a year or two later.

>>60021138
>What are gonna do with 580 after two years?
Play 1080@60 like a breeze and have $300 extra to spend on more crap games to play at 1080@60.

how important are the tools when actually assembling the computer? i have carpet everywhere and i'm worried about static. what's a good solution?

>>60021062
I have a 3x 1440p144 monitors

>>60021264
Assemble on a table or something, sit on a chair, discharge static before starting.

>>60021337
so are static wristbands and grounding just a meme?

all i really need is a screwdriver? one without a magnetic head?

>>60014609
Best RX 580?

Vega when?

Disregarding the price, how much faster is the 1080 compared to the 1070?

>>60021264

touch the case often and it shouldn't be a problem

>>60021414
>so are static wristbands and grounding just a meme?

they're not a meme (unless they don't plug into the mains then they're placebo tier) but the likelyhood of static damaging populated boards is fairly low unless you're trying to do it

>>60021574
10~15% iirc

Will R1600 be enough for Vega?

>>60021414
Wrist bands are. Grounding is not. So do as that anon said and build on a table. As far as grounding, is your case part metal? If so, just make sure to touch the metal part of the case before touching a component. Boom, you're grounded.

As for tools, I have a t-handle ratcheting screwdriver set with a bit for every bolt or screw imaginable. Was a $15 kit from home Depot. Then a small pair of dikes, pliers, and needle nose pliers. $10 for all 3 as a set. Also from home Depot. Magnetic related, it didn't really matter. The strength of the magnet in screw drivers and the like is so weak, it won't effect anything.

Take it slow. Triple check all your connections before trying to boot.

>>60014609
i was going to go with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zz4Md6
but i literally have to spend 80$ extra to get dual channel ram compatibility on my mobo.

Someone want to build me an i7700k w/ 1080ti or something, I was going to go with ryzen, but the price keeps tacking on.

>>60021635
What will vega be comparitive to currently?

>>60021647
1070-1080

>>60021597
the main thing i'm worried about is installing the cpu

i feel like i have to create a vacuum, disinfect myself, shave all hair off my body before inserting the cpu or else some fleck of dust is gonna get in the pins and annihilate everything.

>>60021659
Well that's pathetic. Guess I should give Nvidia 700 shekels.

>>60021661
That helps, but no. The best way to do it is to take your time, don't force anything and be sure everything is seated correctly,

When you tighten your cooler go like

1 4
3 2

Half turn here, half turn there. Make sure you have even pressure

How do I choose a case?
I know what form factor I want my motherboard to be, the length of my graphics card, that I don't want a window, the amount of hard drive bays I want etc.
From there, do I plug that into a search engine like Geizhals and just pick what I think looks good by a company I recognize?

>>60021777
Don't spend less than $100.

>>60021777
Just take an old microwave, it will be fine.

>>60021694
>480/580 comparable/slightly better than a 1060
>no option for higher end like 1070/1080
>"hey, *BRAAAAAP*, uh, *belches* what's this unreleased graphics card with little to no information available about it comparable to??? *jacks off*
>"Gee, I dunno, maybe it's made to compete with the more powerful Nvidia cards out that AMD doesn't have direction competition with?"
>"gafhafwafahaaahahaha. . .*belch* that is pafetic!! haha gonna buy those nVidia cards *burp* instead!"

>>60021777
shop by aesthetics. then look up some reviews. most cases are fine.

>>60021833
are you okay man

>>60021833
Ebic post anon! ;^

>>60021833
What the fuck is wrong with you? Is this what autism is?

>>60021806
Zimbabwean dollars, I assume. Great, thanks.

>>60021810
Thanks, that's a good idea. My microwave is 700W, so it can double as my powersupply.

>>60021841
>most cases are fine
I'll follow my heart, then.

Should I upgrade my 4670k? Seems like BF1 and PUBG are quite heavy on the CPU (running a 8GB 480).

It would be cheaper to drop in a 4790k cause it's just 279$ and I could keep using the same cooler and mobo.

Or would a 1700X with a B350M for 359$ be faster? Would also need new ram though.

>>60021950
Also comes with a window kit, best ITX build.

>>60022044
Just get i7.

>>60021901
No, autism is building a $2,000 computer to browse 4chan and watch YouTube

>>60022044
Is your i5 overclocked? Of not that would help a bit
Games like those are multithreaded. While an i7 would be beneficial, I don't think it's worth $279 for a new old i7 on a depreciated platform with older standards. (No nvme m.2 support, ddr3, etc,)

As far as gaming and general use, I would exceed an r5-1600/1600X. Get the X for faster out of box speeds. You can get a decent B350 board and 1600 for around $300 total now.

>>60021777
Three things:
>Aesthetics. Look at a case and see if it fits your room layout. It sounds like common sense, but you would be shocked at the amount of people who buy the most expensive ugly cases and regret it. Go check out Phanteks cases though, quality and aesthetics are their specialty. Also Greyx Black, White are the only colors you should look at. Any other color is just gonna fuck up your aesthetics (imagine having a high end modern room with an eysore bright red and bright led cases sitting there. eww). Subtle and elegant is the best. Looks great and in place anywhere.
>Size. Mid tower or Full tower. Minis aren't worth it to me honestly. I got a full tower and am thinking of downgrading to a tempered glass mid down the line. Basically, get what you need and see yourself having.
>Price. $70 is the lowest and $200 is the max. Anything outside these bounderies are an utter waste of time an money 9/10. Research it also. Lots of great videos and such detailing virtually every case imaginable.

i7 7700k or i7 6800k
gamen only

>>60022179
Ryzen r5-1600X

>>60022179
6800k don't listen to the Ryzen shills.

>>60021138
>Vega will be about as powerful as 2070
You almost had me there.

>>60022249
ryzen has ram compatibility with it's build I kept choosing out, so I had to spend 100$ on ram, costing more total.

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Is Vega going to be worth the wait?
My 280X CrossFire is getting a bit old now

Ordered parts for a gaymen build last night but I'm getting cold feet. Help me /pcbg/.

Compelling reasons not to cancel the rx580 and go with the 6GB 1060? That fucking power draw, famalams.

>>60022292
Nope, get the 1060.

>>60022292
Go 1070 my brother

>I'm waiting for vega
>nvidia releases volta
Kek

>>60022292
It's been blown way out of proportion, especially when compared to Thermi or the 2/390 triple fan holocausts. Remember when they were recommending 600W to 700W PSUs for single cards?

How long until I can get a pre owned 1080 ti for a similar price as a preowned 980ti?

>>60022109

Why save 50$, when I can get a B350-M Prime and 1700X for 359$? Also I won't be getting an m.2 drive soon anyway, as my 850 pro is fine still.

>>60022292
Get a cheap 980ti or r9 fury x

>>60022109

4,5ghz stable, but no huge impact in PUBG.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2xDZKZ
how we looking
inb4 get ryzen

>have always had Intel cpu and ATI/AMD gpu
>just ordered everything for Ryzen 5 1600 except GPU

Should I go nvidia? Vega is taking way too long.
Playing at 1440p 144hz, but I actually don't care about hitting 144fps. As long as it's above 60 it's fine.
Would that mean I should get a 1080?

>>60022326
A bit rich for my blood, matey. Strictly 1080p here and came in pretty much bang on my budget. Both GPUs are exactly the same price and for the stuff I play they pretty much trade blows.

Had gone AMD because of dx12 (also fuck nvidia), etc. But even there it doesn't seem to be a compelling difference in most stuff.

>>60022354
Just feels like I'll be throwing a lot more heat in to my case for no appreciable return. I don't even know, mang. I guess I'm overthinking it given that either card is perfectly fine for what I'm doing.

>>60022403
Britag here. Short of going second hand, which I'd really prefer not to do, they're not an option.

What sort of improvement we going to see with volta over pascal?

>can't even play heroes of the storm on low without hard fps drops
Whelp, at some point I really have to get a new PC that will last for the next few years again.

>>60022488
Indecisivefag here again. Fuck it. I'm sticking to my rx580 guns. Still salty over a driver update stopping my fans and murdering my 8800gtx back in the day. Will just put muh PSU to the test and use my case as a space heater.

FWIW here's what I'd settled on: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/K8TJHN

>>60022697
You did well.

Are there any good sticks of ram without memespreaders?

>>60021640
not that anon, but what are other ways to ground myself outside of touching metal on the case?

>>60022856
Touch anything metal. Ever shock yourself touching a doorknob? That's built up electrical charge discharging when it makes contact. I've been building for phone and profit since I was 16. Never once ever used a static band.

>>60022401
Sorry. Didn't see you were getting the 1700X. Was going to say that 12 faster threads is better than 16 slower ones for gaming. But the 1700X is great. Its what I have.
>>60022418
PUBG may just be terribly optimized. Isn't it an Arma 3 based game as far as the game engine? That is known for being stupidly heavy on the cpu. A 1700X would be a step up, just make sure you know it's no guarantee in PUBG. It's in early access for a reason.

>>60022853
>No heatspreaders on RAM
Woah. Steady on, cowboy. How else are you planning to spread all of that heat? If your RAM doesn't have at least 18" fins then you can pretty much guarantee it's going to melt itself before you get through POST.

If you insist on taking the chance at least put some blue LEDs in the case to cool things down a bit.

>>60014609
Is the RX 580 worth a $50 difference over the RX 480?

Which do I need a 144hz monitor with?

>>60022977
Spend the 50 dollars on a blowjob from a mexican hooker, burger-san, and get an OC'd 480.

>>60021777
First is obviously by size: full tower > mid tower > mini tower/matx tower > "large" mitx (can fit fullsize GPU/PSU) > compact mitx (cannot fit fullsize GPU/PSU > NUC/BRIX/etc

Second is by necessary features - eg. how many hard drive bays do you need, do you need a disk drive bay, etc.

Third is by price

Fourth is by aesthetics

Fifth is by cooling options (case fan configuration/etc), cable management features (such as space behind the motherboard to hide cables), or other handy features.

>>60022996
that sounds like my tuesday

Will the i7 7700k bottle neck if I get sli'd 1080s

Anyone purchase a PULSE RX 570 ITX? Is it any good? I can't find any reviews.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202284

>>60022977
>Is the RX 580 worth a $50 difference over the RX 480?
Almost certainly not. IIRC you're looking at ~5fps difference in most cases. Ordered a rx580 just because I managed to snag one for about the same price as the 480 I'd had my eye on, but would have had no qualms going for the 480 if there'd been a real price gap.

Just get the cheaper card and add $50 worth of pop tarts to your cart.

>>60022434
Personally I would build Ryzen, but for an i7 build that looks pretty good to me.

My only opinion is I would get the 850 EVO M.2 instead of the 850 EVO 2.5". The performance is the same, the price is the same, but the M.2 won't require cables or case mounting space.

Also not the biggest fan of that case, but whatever floats your boat. Personally I have a full tower and while it was easy as fuck to build in, at the end of the day it is just huge and heavy and not really worth it.

>>60023168
thanks for the suggest of the m.2
only thing im looking into changing is the 7700k to 6800k and 1080ti to sli'd 1080s

any opinions on these

>>60022856
>>60022900
I usually use the screws that are used to attach lightswitches to walls - they are attached to the lightswitch casing which is grounded.

>>60023074
The answer is maybe, depends on the game, graphics settings, screen resolution/etc.

>>60021635
>Will R1600 be enough for Vega?
Not a chance. You should opt for the Intel® Core™ i7-7700K and pair it with an Nvidia® GeForce GTX 1080 Ti to experience gaming The Way It's Meant to Be Played™. Invest in your computing future, anonymous.

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>XG2401
Is $260 a reasonable price to pick up a 144hz Freesync monitor? There are cheaper ones out there, but this seemed to be the most consistently well reviewed model and I'm desperately looking for an upgrade from my decade old 1080@60hz Asus.
I'm currently "waiting for Vega™", but a few anons have mentioned there's a chance Nvidia will support it in the coming year, so I'm not that stressed if it ends up garbage in comparison.

>>60022434
>Spending $2K on a system
>Using a 1080p monitor
CS:GO or Overwatch?

>>60023300
Neither.
Stalker with mods, some mmos maybe, might take a whack at csgo sometime, but don't have interest in it.

>>60022434
That monitor is L I T E R A L L Y garbage. You've picked probably the worst 1080p 144hz monitor out there.

>>60023333
instead of telling me it's shit and not providing a better monitor, provide a better monitor and tell me it's better.

>>60023195
6800k not worth it imo - if you want the extra cores/threads AMD is a much better option.

2x1080 should be faster, but you also get the joys of SLI generally including inconsistent performance/etc.

Always go with a single card unless SLI is the only way to get enough performance.

>>60023358
>>60023300
>>60023333
might go 4k 60hz
would sli benefit from it.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/K3ZcvV

Adding a rx570 or a gtx 1060 3gb for 1080p gaming. Don't know which one yet. Thoughts? It should last me for moba shit, blizzard games etc for the next 6-7 years desu. Current pc is not that great anymore after almost 8 years.

>>60023331
You could build a system that'd have a fair stab at that for less than the price of your GPU, famalam. Seems like some hefty overkill and I'm from the 'future proofing is a bad idea' school of thought so it makes me twitch. But whatever. If you've comfortably got the dosh to drop then sit back and enjoy it and let the haters form an orderly queue.

Since you're burning dosh I'd question that fairly small SSD, though...

>>60023423
SSD is operating system only

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>>60023352
Samsung CF24G70 for curved VA panel/image quality
Viewsonic XG2401 for bretty gud image quality/better Freesync range than Samsung with about a $20 discount
XF240H if you can't afford the above and are willing to deal with shittier image quality
You have officially been spoonfed

Is there any reason to get a gold power supply over a bronze?

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>>60023423
Also, listen to this anon
Unless you're playing some twitchy competitive game that is 99% of the time a shooter or you value overkill on your framerate, there's no reason to pick up a 1080p panel in the first place
t. someone that still uses a 1080p panel for shitty twitchbased competitive games

>>60023489
>value your framerate
are you one of those cs:go babies who believes that having super high FPS gives you an actual advantage

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>>60023440
.

What's a good surge protector if I life in the US? Saw Insignia ones at Best Buy but they seemed kinda shit. What's the SeaSonic/EVGA of power strips/surge protectors?

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>>60023512
No, I'm just an autist about using the same/similar resolution I've used for over a decade

>>60023469
>Windows 10 Home
>$92.99
Stopped right there mate.

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>>60023469
>gaming keyboard
/mkg/ weeps

Windows 10 is going to cost me 120 maple syrup bux according to pcpartpicker. where else can i look for cheaper?

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>>60023469
Here. Just take it: (You)

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What the fuck is ASATA?

>>60023604
just pirate it

>>60023604
Kinguin.net

WHAT FUCKING SURGE PROTECTOR SHOULD I BUY

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>>60023469
Why are you paying for Win10
Why are you buying a 1000W PSU
Why are you buying a gaming keyboard
Why are you paying for a $215 motherobard
Why are you buying 2 7700Ks
Why

>>60023624
What keygen do you use after you download the ISO from microsoft

>>60022942

I think its unreal 3 or 4.

>>60023637
this isn't rocket science you fag, look up a review of a decent surge protector and buy it
it's going to do its job if you put in even a second worth of effort to look them up
>>60023651
>he doesn't just leave it unactivated

How much storage do I need for a gaming PC? If I have a SSD + HDD, do I put my games on the SSD so they load faster? Which files should go on the SSD or HDD?

Right now I have a 500GB SSD and 2TB HDD picked out

>>60023637
None. Stop being a cuck and start living life on the edge.

>>60023604
There are OEM keys on play-asia for 15 bucks.

Otherwise pirate windows 7 with whichever method you like that gives you an activated copy, then head to the microsoft homepage and there's a section where you can claim a free Windows 10 upgrade if you need any accesibility help like the screen magnifier or sticky keys.

>>60023678
Operating system and gaymes on SSD
Media storage/shit you're not using with any frequency on HDD
Space is entirely dependent on how much you need, look at your current game library and what you want to have installed at all times, and then look at your media collection to see if you need anymore, but 500GB/2TB is more than plenty to start and it's not hard to add more later

>>60023717
Ok great, thank you sir

>>60023693
thanks!

>>60023693
Can you get pro this way still? I wanted to use LTSB but apparently it's not going to be compatible with some drivers into the future.

REEEE POWER SURGE R3EWEEEEE

>>60023777
No harm on trying. Never done it myself but I'm sure there are tutorials out there.

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for a friend so dunno everything he's gonna do with it, but primarily playing overwatch, csgo, and aaa titles. also plans to get a 24" 120/144 mhz monitor, which is pretty much the reason for the 1070 i guess.
pretty standard probably, but should be fine, right? primarily asking bc of psu.

>>60023828
Yeah, I still have all the tools for W7 ultimate and Dazloader, but I need 10 if only for DX12. I'll give it a try.

>>60023938
He may aswell get a 6600k or a ryzen 1600/1600x.

>>60023661
Whats the difference between genuine windows 10 and unactivated?

Don't know if this is the right thread, but I need suggestion for a headphone/microphone combo for my new computer since I'm starting from scratch.

>>60024208
RAZER Kraken

>>60024268
>Razer
Please tell me this isn't a meme.

>>60023938
>i5 7500
>2017
No me gusta.

>>60024047

was also considering ryzen, but is out of budget and i don't think he can make good use out of it's perks plus, being pretty new i guess he'd probably have some stuff to tweak. he's pretty much a consumer only, so he doesn't want to deal with stuff like that.

6600 also too expensive and as he doesn't want to OC, i believe it wouldn't be worth it the upgrade anyway.

future upgradeability isn't important, only performance atm and ease of use.

thanks though

>>60023938
>i5-7500
>not R5 1600
Case is overpriced as shit, 8GB is minimum, imho 16GB unless all he does is gaymen, PSU is fine but imho 500W version for upgrades or whatever.

>>60023966
Consider saving yourself the hassle with Windows 7 and just going straight to Windows 10 and activating with something like KMSpico. That's a lot of hoops to jump through just to go 'legit.'

>>60024208
>>>/hpg/

>>60024330
No rupees from r5 sales today, Pajeet.

>>60023938
Not sure what euro prices are like but the M12II 520 is a go-to cheap PSU if he's looking to step it up slightly. Going much cheaper than that you're either sacrificing build quality, wattage, or modularity.

>>60024403
>Not sure what euro prices are like but the M12II 520 is a go-to cheap PSU
https://geizhals.de/seasonic-m12ii-520-bronze-evo-edition-520w-atx-2-3-ss-520gm2-a1097136.html
About 5.5 € more, it seems.

>>60024330

y case probably subject to change.

ram is 16gb/2 8gb kits.

>>60024427
He should really spend less on non essential shit like a case and save a bit more cash to get a k version or a 1600x.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fHpKgL

headphones just broke today so I had to add them to my build list. How does this look?

>>60024401
>t. Goldstein
Enjoy inferiour performance and stutter.

>>60024541
Why no 1060?

>>60024558
Because they are generally more expensive where I am.

>>60024556
Work on your spelling Rajeesh.

>>60024541
>2400mhz RAM
>Ryzen
>$2 cheaper than the equivalent 3200mhz Shitjaw V kit.
plz stop

>>60024655
Shit, did not notice that. Will replace immediately. What is your problem with Ryzen though?

>>60024682
Ryzen's muy bueno. Ryzen with unecessarily low-clocked RAM is less so.

>>60024586
Pure autism, but yeah.. that's what you'd expect from someone licking Intels arse clean.

>>60024426

thanks looks good

>>60024481

i'd definitely go that route if it was for myself, but he won't oc, doesn't do much multitasking and mostly wants to just play current game titles on nice settings, and if possible on 120/144 mhz, without really worrying much about future upgrading.
i agree, that the 50 euro extra would be worth it but if he doesn't wanna spend more it's his choice. so is it worth it the 6600k (or ryzen) over the 7500 for roughly 40 euro price increase all those things considered?
case probably will be changed but don't know what else could be cut down? I think ssd is mandatory and else i don't think i can safe that much on the other parts to fit in any of those 2.
thanks for the help!

>>60024655
Ram speed doesnt make a difference

On a budget here for my first PC. Can't decide between these 2 builds... Yes, I know the graphics card isn't the best. Fuck off.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6CMCVY

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Stolen_Recaros/saved/mnFrHx

>>60024783
Both bad get cheaper board cheaper ram even skip ssd for the time being if needed but buy better gpu rx470 at last or even better rx480/580

>>60018759
I'd say the rx 570 8gb one.

new bread

>>60024683

Hey guys, does a molex cable to 4 pin and 3pin wire exist?

>>60021148
>I don't do open box. Not anymore. Not since.....It happened.
Come on anon, we're curious.

>>60018762
I'm probably too late to save you, but get a Gigabyte Gaming K3 instead

and don't buy expensive RAM unless it's Samsung B-die, should still be able to get lower times, just not higher speeds

Is the 1500 the one with 8MBs of cache? I'd get a 6 core minimum man

>>60024840
Ye, dump the SSD if necessary to upgrade the vid card, then get an SSD later.