/wt/ watch thread

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First for Steve Jobs loved quartz watches and so should you

>>60005219

That's a nice watch

>>60005199
>>60005219
Samefag
S und H for you

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>>60005250

Doubt

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After playing USPS fuck fuck games I finally got my SARB017. Super happy with it, and glad the strap works well with it.

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A reminder that there's no honour amongst theives

>>60005294
The opening post counts as a poster too dumbass

>>60005310

You should try to get the engraved bezel for that

>>60005294
Yes and there were literally 4 posts when you took that screencap

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Why are quartz watches so much cheaper to repair than mechanicals?

The meme going around is that quartz watches will run out of parts but the opposite is actually true.

>>60005323
Meranom died for me since we know he buys chink parts

>tfw Boctok is no muhh 100% in house anymore

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>>60005527

It was just dials for one SE watch.

Anyone with a vintage accutron tuning-fork watch here? My battery is depleted and I need some info on how to put a new one in and what kind of battery it should be.

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Anyone knows what watch this movement is exactly from?

>>60005342
Not sure how crazy I am about the engraved bezel. Might look nice though.

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Pure sex movement

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>>60005740

>>60005766
Now the whole thing engraved looks stunning. Reminds me of an old over under shotgun in a field of deep green grass.

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>>60005740

>>60005849

It's a pity this guy stopped making them. People flipped them on ebay for many times what he sold them for so he stopped and started making his own watches.

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>>60005740

You could also go for a gold plating

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>>60005871
That's a shame, although not entirely surprising.

>>60005919

Easily one of the top 5 affordable watches in production today

>>60005858
Muh wrist

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Why are there so few smaller vostoks for guys?

>>60005713
From a Patek Philippe watch

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It was during the time of World War II that Switzerland controlled nearly 90 percent of the world’s watch industry, enjoying a well-protected monopoly in the watchmaking marketplace. Shortly after the end of the war, Max Hetzel, a Swiss engineer, developed a watch that ran without any mechanical complications and entirely by the power of electricity. The mechanics were reduced to a circuit board, a tuning fork which was powered by a 1.35-volt battery that powered the hands of the watch with the help of an electromechanical gear train. A watch that was powered by a battery instead of an unwinding spring was unlike anything ever seen before and it laid the groundwork for the quartz wrist watch. The watch came alive in 1960, manufactured by Bulova and was called the ‘Accutron’.

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Though the technology was entirely developed in Switzerland and the first prototype was entirely Swiss made, the watch companies back there didn’t welcome it with open arms, citing concerns that they weren’t ready for the transition from “micromechanics to microelectronics”, and that it would cause more disruption to the industry than anything else. A downright rejection of the idea of developing the quartz watch for manufacturing, despite enjoying a handsome monopoly.

It was the contribution of American, Japanese and a handful of Swiss manufacturers along with independent researchers that were really interested in this venture, that helped make the quartz watch what it is today. They recognized an obvious market for accurate watches at affordable prices and because these watches weren’t costly to make, the demand for quartz watches picked up in a very short span of time.

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Are these old Seamaster quartz watches any good? They have a 17 jewels movement I think which may be adjusted to a couple of positions too.

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In 1982, the very first Swatch prototypes were launched with a sole purpose to recapture the entry level market share that was lost by Swiss manufacturers during the growth of other companies. Coming in a variety of colours and attractive designs, Swatch even remastered the technology entirely by reducing the components from 100 to 51 without losing any of the watch’s accuracy!

>>60006277

They're good and extremely affordable compared to Rolex Oysterquartz that has been shooting up in value at auctions due to their limited production run.

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Give me your honest opinion on this watch.

The features are almost too good to be true.

>titanium
>500m water resistance
>top-tier ETA movement
>5-600 bucks
>lumed bezel
>etc.

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>>60006277
>quartz
>adjusted to positions

theyre generally good pieces though. also check out ones with the 1330 movement.

>>60006451
Fuck off Steinshitter shill.

>>60006511
I posted it three times in the previous thread, and got like 2 replies that didn't even make any sense.

>>60005457
>Why are quartz watches so much cheaper to repair than mechanicals?
I'm sure you know this, but:
Depends on the quartz and mechanical movement in question.
A seagull mech and a grand seiko/citizen thermo-compensated quartz is not going to have the same cost to repair ratio as would a jlc gyrotourbillion vs a swatch.

98% of quartz movments made today are not repaired today so much as just tossed out and replaced.
This is anything from the cheapest junk chinese cereal box freebie to some generic ronda quartz found in any of the "swiss" low to mid-tier makers (eg., tag et. al.).

I would think that the vintage good quartz found in like, the rolex oysterquartz and older seikos would cost more to repair today, no?
One assumes that the march of progress leaves many electronic components OOP or prohibited (lead parts etc.)

>>60005766
>>60005858
Love the colours of the watch, but have never been able to get over the redundant compass capter ring.

>>60006451
These watches are becoming more technically impressive, in regards to materials etc.
However, I just can't shake the perception that they're just a homage watch maker for people who can't or won't buy what they really want to buy.

Perhaps that's not a fair sentiment anymore since they have progressed in the years I've not looked at them, but it's a perception that sticks for me.

Entirely derivative and thus boring.
There's a plethora of microbrands out there that at least put some more effort into making some inroads to original design (though I find most equally bland, but in a different way), and yes though the model you posted isn't exactly like their other rolex knock offs, it's still too close IMO.

Still, if you like it stop fucking asking here and buy it already. It seems fine on paper.

How much of steinhart's stuff is "swiss made"?

My stainless steel speedmaster bracelet says 'Swiss made'

Checkmate

>>60006848
"swiss made" can mean "made in china" but then sent to swiss and attached to watch and put in box for sale

checkmate

>>60006894
That's not what it means though

>>60006915
did you see them make it with your own eyes?
no?
made in china, where it's cheap

matecheck

>>60006935
Stay stupid

Checkmate

>>60006979
enjoy your chinese handicraft
hope you got it for a bargain
:^)

>>60006915
Basically, "Swiss Made" can be manipulated enough not to help very much in evaluating the extent to which a Swiss brand actually makes their watches in Switzerland.

Basically you'll have to research each brand and evaluate the evidence yourself.

>>60006768
I'd love to be wrong, but I don't think there's any microbrand out there that comes close to these features for that price.

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>>60005919
>>60005310
Enjoy it. Easily my favourite modern watch under $5,000. I just wish the 6R15 in mine hadn't been such a piece of shit, had to take it in for servicing three times before Seiko just said "fuck it" and replaced the movement.

>>60005766
These are gorgeous, but I think I prefer the more plain look of a polished bezel and brushed lugs.

>>60006593
My watchmaker has said that repairing old Seiko quartz movements is almost impossible without some soldering knowledge and a very, very steady hand. Also if the coil goes, enjoy making a new one yourself.

>>60006635
The compass chapter ring is actually incredibly useful. Not just for using it as a compass, which is cool, but it does a good job at timing shit too. Think of it like a rotating bezel on a dive watch.

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STOP

Shitter posting
Fake posting
Steinshart posting

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>>60000173
Hey SeaGull 1963 anons.. How is your watch after x amount of weeks?
I'm thinking of picking one up to temporarily quench my chronograph hunger. Did you go acrylic or Sapphire?

Poljot24 has them from 275 eu including tax

>>60005903
Disgust.png

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>>60007664
Ok.

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>>60007694

AHHHH

>>60007741
I never really liked that watch, but that leather band is changing my opinion on it.

Looks great.

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Why is this watch so expensive?

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the Twenty-4 model is Patek Philippe's most high-profile quartz timepiece – and it remains in the collection. It currently even makes for more than 20 percent of the brand's worldwide sales among new pieces. In absolutes, this represents 10,000 of the yearly production of 45,000 pieces. In fact, many of Patek Philippe's ladies' models are also available in a quartz version, and today almost 50 percent of these models are powered by a quartz movement, a full three references of seven: Twenty-4, Aquanaut Luce, and Gondolo Serata. The manufacture, always a little reluctant to talk about quartz, tends to continue listing at least these three references in the catalogue.

>>60007812
Thanks. That's pretty much what happened to me. I never liked the two tone DJ until I saw one on leather.

>>60008061
It's covered in diamonds, that's all women care about.

>>60005858
This is genuinely beautiful

>>60006593
"Et" is not an abbreviation.
Also, "eg." is not a thing. I think "e.g." was what you were looking for.

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All this Alpinist posting. Might as well post mine.

>>60005563
If the battery in yours was a 394, just use that again. The 214 movement also has a rubber spacer put onto the battery. I'm sure you can find pics of how the battery goes in.

>>60007741
>Buys a rolex
>Can't afford a non-hideous shirt
nigga

>>60007921
What does the pusher do?

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These watches will go nice with my Thinkpad.

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Oh there's a new thread already. For those curious on what's inside your amphibia

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>>60007683
It's a nice watch that's for sure. It's not as great as everyone jerks it off to be mainly because you have to baby it a bit. For example if it's raining heavy outside you might not want to wear it. If it's your only watch that could be not very practical.

Surprisingly it's the watch I've gotten the most compliments about. If you open it in shitty lighting you might think to yourself why the fuck did I buy this but I assure you wait until it hits the light ... It's beautiful.

>>60009425
Is that the sapphire or the acrylic one?

>>60009468
This is acrylic. The domed is, I would say, a necessity

Undecided between a turtle or a sumo... Movement and case finish are worth the extra $$?

>>60005563
Just replace it with whichever battery it had previously.

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>>60006220
>that sloppy reproduction crystal

>>60009978
just go by looks, one is shiny one isn't. finishing on a sumo isn't incredible for example they didn't bother to get the drilling on the lug holes right so my bracelet rattles quite a bit.

>>60005547
No, it's literally everything that isn't the movement, case, back, and crystal. That means all SE dials, bezels, hands, straps, and the signed crowns.

>>60005527
Buy a standard Amphibian or Komandirskie then. Literally everything down to the jewels are made in Russia other than the straps. The only other exceptions might be the oils and raw materials.

omg the alpinist is like the Mexican lowrider of seikos

>engraving
>gold plating

SICK!

>>60010777
More like the middle ground over under shotgun

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>>60010792
yeah, no. your 'middle ground' over/under is classy and tasteful.

take a look, street trash. this car (pic related) = the Seiko alpinist.

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Hey fags, would a Sinn 556i look inappropriate on 8"+ wrists and a 6'3" body? what I mean is, would it look effeminate and too small.

I'd prefer feedback from fellow WIS. Thanksss.

>>60011002
It's 38.5mm, it shouldn't look too small.

>>60011039
thanks m8

>>60010971
it's the dual crowns that get me. the green starburst dial and gold hands look good.

but those dual crowns are abhorrent.

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>>60009178

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So I'm in Tokyo and want to get something entry level tier but nice to take home as a souvenir from this trip.

I'm thinking a Seiko 5 sports automatic, pic related, or the diver in the series. But there's also the Citizen eco-drive in the price range and some Orients.

>>60011406
honestly I think you're on the right track with all 3. they're all durable, well made, and will be long-lasting watches.

>>60011039
38.5 is a woman's watch.

>>60011002
you'll look like a goddam homosexual with a 38mm watch on a big wrist.

>>60011406
Might as well get something JDM, Orient Neo70s line is pretty good for around 1 man yen, and a lot of the JDM exclusive Eco-drives around 2 man are really nice for the price. You can get Seiko 5s pretty much anywhere, seize the chance to get something a little harder to find!

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Time to finally settle this question.

Nautilus or Royal Oak? I would say Nautilus, as the Royal Oak lacks the essential durability of a sports watch.

>>60012981
15202ST.

Does something like this exist?
>survival/nature/military watches
>at least average spec-wise
>can do some basic diving with it
>minimalist and rugged by design
>not priced as average car

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>>60007683
Don't buy chinkshit chronographs, Slav is the way to go.

recommend me a good plain white quartz watch with date indicator. but no winding mechanism, i prefer battery powered

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How does /wt/ feel about Steinshit?

>>60013196
Literally no worse than any Swatch scam brand. Though I've never actually held one in my hand, so I'm talking out of my ass a bit.

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alpinist-anon from italy reporting in

>>60013249
>Literally no worse than any Swatch scam brand.

Isn't the price for Steinhart pretty fair compared to most Swatch scam brands?

>>60013249
>>60013196

I can speak for my OVM here.
The bracelet is fucking great, really nicely polished and generally very comfortable.

There is a little bit of give in the bezel. A little spongy as it were.

Lume is great.
The engraving on the caseback is a prick though. Too many sharp corners to it, which really dig in when you crank the bezel.

>>60013297
But the movement is doing well?

How old is the watch and how much abuse does it see?

>>60013140
Not if we're judging by that ugly thing.

>>60013309
I've had the watch very nearly a year now.
It sees occasional bumps on counter tops. Nothing major, though the odd shock or smack isn't unknown to it. Just rare.
Just eyeballing it, it's running at +5s/day for me. So well within the spec.

>>60012981
i like both, but only in tiny vintage sizes with no seconds hand.

>>60013411
Never realized there were actual women on /g/.

>>60013443
i have a very feminine penis :^}

>>60012981
Royal oak, no competition. The Nautilus looks like shit.

>>60013061
g shock

>>60013196
garbage

>>60013480
>garbage
Pls elaborate.

Are there any watches with a jumping day-date (day at 12, date at 6) complication? I hate it when the date is halfway out of the date window. And I find a day-date in that configuration especially boner-inducing.

>>60013480
>g shock
>minimalist

Come on now. Shit is everything but.

>>60013525
you won't find a watch that complies with more of those stupid criteria than a g shock

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I am looking at two seiko prospex models, the blue lagoon samurai (left) and the blue padi (right).

The samurai uses the 4r36 movement, so it does at least have hand winding, but the power reserve is still only 40 hours. The padi is solar powered, so as long as I leave it out in the open it should keep ticking and its half the price of the samurai. Neither have a sapphire crystal.

They are both about 43-44mm in size. I don't normally wear watches so big but both of these models caught my eye, especially the samurai. For some reason it just looks striking to me.

Which one should I get? I am tempted to get both. If I get either one of them, should I change the bracelet to an aftermarket bracelet or strap or leave it as it is?

Whats wrong with a cheap chinese digital watch?

>>60013843
Samurai looks best, try a rubber strap

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>>60012981

Both look like shit when compared to the Rolex Oysterquartz

>>60013857

Nothing. They're usually just too fucking big.

>>60012241
>38.5 is a woman's watch.

t. Fatmaster

>>60008950

Chronograph

>>60013843
samurai.

>>60006098
Russians live teh dick.

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Is there any anon who knows his G-Shocks?

There is the good old Casio GA 100-1A1 and then there is a much newer AW-591BB-1A which, functionality-wise they look pretty identical on the paper, they even cost about the same price. However, design-wise the newer AWs are much more attractive for me.

Is there any difference, or it is just as I thought and I can buy AWs?

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Any modern quartz movements with these features:
>proper solid milled bridges/plates instead of just pressed sheet metal
>mechanical-sized gears in the gear train

Excluding ultra high-end shit like Grand Seiko of course. I'm poor.

>>60014521
Buy AW
>source
>Anon who knows his Gs

>>60014559
Would you please elaborate, dear anon? But yeah, I'm very much inclined to.

>>60014525
eta 255.461?

why not just buy vintage/used quartz?

>>60013196
Kill yourself, Steinshitter shill.

>>60013322
>A fucking Kirova chronograph
>Ugly
You are a complete horological pleb and should shut the fuck up until you develop some taste.

>>60014637
Nice argument, goober.

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>>60014525
The people who make high end quartz are the people that charge a lot of money. Seiko, Breitling, and Rolex are the kings of high end quartz movements.

Just stop being poor.

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>>60014651

>>60014655
Rolex don't make quartz, shithead.

>>60014727
>>60014226
What did he mean by this?

>>60014767
This is a discussion about new movements, not old shit.

>>60012981
Aquanaut
>same movement as nautilus
>less blingy
>lower priced

>>60014767
That's ONE watch from forty years ago. Rolex experimented with quartz then and never again, you fucktard.

Don't even try.

>>60014806
Do the crystals get old and stop working?

>>60014814
The Oysterquartz was in production until the early 2000s.

>>60014823
Which was already sixteen years ago (I think 2001 or something when they shut down).

>>60013196
Horrible.

Homages are automatically dogshit but literally every single design idea of their own that Steinhart has is PHENOMENALLY ugly, making their original designs even worse than their homages. Their design department is bordering on Citizen/Bulova levels of retardation.

>>60014851
And? What is your point? Well made watches last forever if they are maintained.

>>60014873
I originally said I wanted modern and not ultra high-end. The Oysterquartz movement is neither.

>>60014864
I like that titanium one. The hands make it a lot less of an homage.

>>60006533
Does this one make sense?

PETROL
E
T
R
O
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STATION
T
A
T
I
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Sup /wt/, is this too big for me?
I'm thinking of either getting a SARB or this model (SARY057)

This model is bigger but has no lume which I like. Also slightly cheaper than the sarb but has an inferior movement i think.

>>60015028
That dial is sized just right for you, but lug-to-lug seems too long for your wrist. Get the SARB btw!

>>60015028
It seems like literally everyone on /wt/ has tiny girly wrists.
wtf is up with that?

>>60015028
Yes, it's too big.

>>60015054
How you doing Faterico?

>>60005679
man, oysterquartz are so sexy

>>60015060
I'm a very lean dude with normal 7" wrists.

Where is nineball

>>60014898
Well, the answer to your original question is no. The only modern quartz movements made that way on a production basis are Grand Seikos, and Citizen Chronomasters. Even the ETA thermocomensated quartz movements are made the cheap way.

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>>60015054
>It seems like literally everyone on /wt/ has tiny girly wrists.

No, we have normal wrists, we're not FAT

>>60015126
If you are looking for a high quality quartz movement check out the Seiko Dolce line

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>>60015142
I didn't realize, but the Dolce line's 8J41 movement is indeed made that way. No
Good call.

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>>60015132
Speak for yourself.

>>60015126
what about the longines vhp

>>60014647
The movement is good and the dial is fine but the bezel and crown make it look tacky as all fuck, sorry to burst your bubble. There are far better looking Russian chronographs out there.

>>60015198
nice watch
ok strap
poor match

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>>60014814
>ONE watch

Model numbers of the Rolex Oysterquartz include:

17000 Oysterquartz Datejust, stainless steel case and polished bezel, stainless steel integral Oyster bracelet. Price: $3,025.00

17013 Oysterquartz Datejust, stainless steel case, 18K yellow gold fluted bezel, stainless steel/18K yellow gold integral Jubilee bracelet. Price: $5,050.00

17014 Oysterquartz Datejust, stainless steel case, 18K white gold fluted bezel, stainless steel integral Jubilee bracelet. Price: $3,575.00.

19018 Oysterquartz Day-Date, 18K yellow gold case and fluted bezel, 18K yellow gold integral President bracelet with hidden clasp. Price: $16,500.00.

19019 Oysterquartz Day-Date, 18K white gold case and fluted bezel, 18K white gold integral President bracelet with hidden clasp. Price: $18,200.00.

19028 Oysterquartz Day-Date, 18K yellow gold case and Pyramid bezel, 18K yellow gold integral Pyramid bracelet with hidden clasp. Price: $18,500.00.

19038 Oysterquartz Day-Date, 18K yellow gold case and Pyramid bezel with 12 brilliants, 18K yellow gold integral Pyramid bracelet with hidden clasp. Price: $21,250.00.

19048 Oysterquartz Day-Date, 18K yellow gold case and bezel, with bezel set with 44 brilliants, dial set with 8 brilliants and 2 baguettes, 18K yellow gold integral President bracelet with hidden clasp. Price: $25,550.00.

19049 Oysterquartz Day-Date, 18K white gold case and bezel, with bezel set with 44 brilliants, dial set with 8 brilliants and 2 baguettes, 18K white gold integral President bracelet with hidden clasp. Price: $27,250.00.

19068 Oysterquartz Day-Date, 18K yellow gold case and bezel, with bezel set with 44 brilliants, dial set with 8 brilliants and 2 baguettes, 18K yellow gold integral Pyramid bracelet with hidden clasp. Price: 27,500.00.

19148 Oysterquartz Day-Date, 18K yellow gold case set with 8 brilliants, 18K yellow gold bezel set with 44 brilliants, dial set with 8 brilliants and 2 baguettes,etc.. Price: $60,000.00.

>>60015303
And what movements did these use, kiddo?

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>>60015251
It's a reproduction of a very famous WW2 Tutima/Hanhart fliegerchrono design. The factory ended up in Russian hands at the end of WW2 and they liked the design so much they packed up the factory and sent it to Moscow.

You can read about it here:
http://edscorner1.blogspot.ca/2007/03/poljot-buran-chronograph-review.html?m=1

>>60015327
I know exactly what it is lmao, it's still ugly as fuck.

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>>60015271

>>60015028
YIKES that's large.

>>60015335
Oh, so you're just a total horological pleb with no appreciation for iconic historical watch models and designs then.

Feel free to fuck off then.

>>60014226
>no non-date oysterquartz
>hate the cyclops

Is there any rolex with the same not-royal-oak case without the date?

>>60015352
I can appreciate the history but still be objective about calling an ugly watch ugly lad. Plenty of watches have both.

>>60015071
most watch-lovers have small wrists (6-7").

they don't realize that there are real men, with real wrists, who wear watches. 6'3" 210lbs, 8.25" wrists.

In public they shuffle quickly past us. Admiring... and fearing us. On 4chan, they call us 'snowflakes' and "fatties" (even though we're neither). It's just their way of lashing out at the world.

>>60015381
>fatty with a victim complex has convinced himself he's special

Well there's a surprise.

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This chart should answer 100% of the questions in this thread.

Read it. Love it. Live it.

>>60015395
Bait

>>60015395
actually well-thought out.
they're mad because it's true, I'd imagine.

>>60015358
you could jujst replace the crystal

>>60015447
It's really not. Tudor, Omega and particularly Breitling have no business being in that top tier. Christopher Ward should be in never buy and Vostok should have a whole load of asterisks attached at the very least, or be in never buy at worst.

>>60015458
I guess, but even if you could find a non-cyclops crystal that fit you'd be fucking with the originality of the watch.

I don't know what'd trigger my autism more, the cyclops, or having a non original crystal.

>>60015132
I went to a watch maker the other day for some servicing questions and asked at the same time about getting a new watches.

Nearly all watches were huge as diner plates and garish like bombed disco. Could not wear any in good taste.

The watchmaker said that the towering dinner plate trend is now coming to an end and more tasteful designs are coming up.

I will wait.

>>60013843
What is even the purpose of a fin graded sub second dial when the seconds hand is that far away!?

Also removing lume because of the date window is a criminal offence.

>>60012981
Nautilus with the blue strap > royal oak >>>>> regular nautilus

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Pobieda

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>>60015527

>>60015395
It's wrong about Sea-Gull.

>>60015516
Do you think kids learn anything at design school?
Do you think companies develop new parts when they should, instead of using existing parts that ruin the design?

>>60012981
those are even uglier than panerai. omg... they look like invictas.

>ap's ASS
>wtf are you doing Patek Philippe??

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I don't know if the OP is supposed to be le ironic xDDD but I am legitimately considering a few quartz watches. I want something small—around 35mm or under—dressy, and under $300. The best two I've found so far are the Tissot T-Classic Desire ($155) and this old Raketa ($175).

Tissot:
- sapphire crystal
- "muh swiss" mufugga - seems like bullshit and I've seen people complaining about the movement
- looks nice and respectable

Raketa:
- old as fuck and might have problems although the seller claims that it's mint
- moonphase
- has more character than the Tissot IMO
- claims to have 8 jewels (?)
- kind of silly and less elegant compared to the Tissot's design, but still nice IMO

Anyone have any opinions or other suggestions? Are there vast differences in quality between the various quartz movements at this price point?

>>60015646
>Tissot
Toss it

>>60015271
agree
>>60015339
>>60015198

>>60015395
agree with this although i would put breitling, GS, credor(wtf is this seiko shit doing here), and blancpain down a level

>>60012981

they are both ugly, but the nautilus is noticeably less ugly. if i received them as gifts, the royal oak would go on chrono24 or ebay unopened, whereas i would at least open the nautilus box before selling it unworn.

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>>60015668
>>Tissot
>Toss it
Any specific reason? I'm having a hard time finding another dressy quartz watch <=35mm for less than ~$250. There are plenty of manual winders but I'd prefer quartz for various reasons. I don't really want to wear a moonphase to a job interview.

>>60015646
Tissot is a fucking Swatch "swiss made" scam. Avoid

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>>60015727
>Tissot is a fucking Swatch "swiss made" scam. Avoid
desu I don't really give a shit about them failing to deliver on marketing bs, I just want something of reasonable quality that won't fall apart. I'd even buy Timex if there were one in the right style. Pic related is $155 and I can't find a better quartz in this size/price range.

>>60015754
For $155 you could do a lot worse. If that's the specific style you're looking for just go for it.

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>>60015764
>If that's the specific style you're looking for just go for it
I'm not a huge fan of the Roman numerals but I can't find anything else. I really like the Orient Bambino (Capital) look, but they're just too large on my wrist considering the style. I don't understand the oversized dress watches meme—it just looks bad compared to the vintage style at 32-35mm.

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>>60015726
>I don't really want to wear a moonphase to a job interview.

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>>60015754
>>60015764
>>60015798
bauhaus is great, too, but of course they're all either automatic or >35mm

>>60015812
>hello my name is dumbledore headmaster of hogwarts school of witchcraft and wizardry
>yeah i'm here for the job interview

>>60015830
Plenty of respectable watches have moonphases on them. It's not some chuu2 shit, unless it's a day/night indicator pretending to be a moonphase.

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>>60015816
>wanting a watch smaller than 34mm
>calling yourself a man
srsly?

the typical women's watch today is 34-36mm.

is this a new gay homosexual trend? tiny watches? your wristlets can't be THAT small?

>>60015516
it's for minutes, nobody cares about seconds

>>60015816

t. wristpleb

>>60006768

> they're just a homage watch maker for people who can't or won't buy what they really want to buy.

so is Lexus an homage brand for making luxury cars a fraction of the cost of BMW? undoubtably with a Steinhard you get far, far more value for money than with the Rolex it is designed like

hell, it's different enough looking that it's not even obviously a sub replica.

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>>60015859
>sub second indices are for minutes

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>>60015854
>wearing the watch equivalent of crocs and sweatpants in an effort to satisfy your bizarre wrist inferiority complex
baka desu senpai

>>60015854
Womens watches are typically <32mm. I guess they were if you take into account the hot meme of oversized watches these past however many years though.

>>60015854
women's watches are 20-30mm. 30-35mm is getting into fashion-tier and anything bigger is just "look at me such a nerd LOL"

Any major disadvantage to autoquartz watches?
I was guessing price they seem to be on pace with autos.

>>60015798
Try to look for Lip watches if they are sold in your country.

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>>60015912
this guy's wrist is like 6"

>>60015920
yes, oversized watches are >42mm (they've been making 42mm watches for decades). admittedly tacky.

you're wearing 35mm watches...
so, you're either
1. a 6" wristlet/manlet under 6'
or
2. the next Caitlyn jenner

pick one and only one. it's 2017 btw, not 1949.

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>>60015972
I'm not the one looking for a <35mm watch m8.

Although I do just happen to be wearing a 35mm diameter watch.

>>60012981
Nautilus easy.
Royal oak is just unpleasant to look at

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>>60015972
>it's 2017 btw, not 1949.

>>60015880
oh i was looking at the other watch lmao

>>60015992
your wrist size? (honestly)?

>>60015964
what are you talking about? kinetic? spring drive?

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>>60015972
>this guy's wrist is like 6"
This is wrong. Unless you are a legit fat fuck, a 33, 34, 35, or maybe 36mm watch will always look objectively better. Objectively.

enjoy ur crocs&sweatpants lmao

>>60016029
hmm didn't realize seiko has 2 different technologies that use both autowinding and quartz, i need to read up some more

>>60015997

the royal oak looks like a prototype that accidentally got sent to production. you can just imagine the horror on the faces of the dudes working on the case assembly process when they found out that their buffoon superiors thought it was a "statement" design and shipped it without ever sending it to the designers to be completed.

>>60016039
>Objectively.

Literally not objective if almost all of the population disagrees with you lmao

>>60016029

autoquartz was an ETA thing and it's dead.

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>>60016039
how small are you people?

are you all tiny japper gnomes? are none of you over 6' with 8" wrists?

where do you come from!?

>"34mm looks better on men!"

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Is there anyone here with a SARB033, do you like it?

also for eurofags: Seiyajapan or Longislandwatches?

>>60015992
>>60016089
You are talking to multiple people and all you seem to have is
>lol ur small
lol ur fat etc

>>60016077
>Literally not objective if almost all of the population disagrees with you lmao
b8 and checked

>>60016089

in this age of grotesquely oversized watches, it's normal to have a bit of a revulsion toward the trend. but going all the way down to 34 mm is really extreme. a sensible reaction to the trend is to stick to the 38-42mm range, tolerating the higher end of that only for things like fliegers and chronographs.

>>60016083
yeah, I'm getting the naming all wrong. I was just talking about automatic watches that use quartz to get better accuracy

>>60016120

as far as i know, the only movement that does that is spring drive.

>>60016089
Not him, but here:

https://youtu.be/_RcoiIz2Jd0?t=1m50s

>>60016027
6.5" last I checked.

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>>60016116
>but going all the way down to 34 mm is really extreme
Men's watches were generally 32-36mm from the advent of wristwatches to like 1985. Like 98% of vintage watches with domed crystals fall in that range. The fact that you're a youngfag who has only ever seen huge watches for retards who don't know any better doesn't mean that it's 'extreme' to go back to something that is classic and simple. A watch is an accessory and a tool—it's not supposed to look like a dinner plate on your wrist, or be used as a big gay expression of your need to compensate for your lack of manhood.
>brushing your hair? dude it's not 1965
>hand tats are completely normal and most people agree
>yeah these holes in my ears make me look like i'm trying to copy an african tribesman but it's the new in thing bro
>lol it's not 1945 anymore grandpa

>>60016178
>6.5" last I checked.
Prime candidate for a 35mm watch (seriously). Stop memeing about masculinity and actually try one on for a few days, you silly nigger.

>>60016201
he's wearing a 35mm vintage chronograph right now you pederast.

and just as I predicted, he's a tiny being
>6.5" wrists.

>>60016201
>Stop memeing about masculinity

But I'm not, my only post was about how women's watches are (or were I guess) <32mm. Like I said, I'm wearing that carrera right now.

>>60016226
>>60016229
confused you two
anyway fuck off niggerfaggot with muh small watches are bad meme

35mm is too small for a chrono though lol

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>>60016116
I agree, I'm a tall man with large wrists, and I prefer 38-42mm watches.

Seeing these dwarves with 6" wrists and 36mm watches makes me sick though.

>>60016194
Not taking into account that people are literally getting larger per each generation
>but in 1945, they wore 30mm watches! so that's how it should be now in 2017 with the average 6'4" high school student!

>>60016249
small? 35mm is TINY. dainty. effeminate.

gay.

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>>60016268
Fuck off you obnoxious shitposter.

Jesus Christ these threads have been fucking cancerous lately.

>>60016249
The dial size is actually the same as on the speedy, there's just no tach bezel.

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>>60016279
Kill yourself.

>>60016268
why are you wasting your time here
>haha xD trolled
ok we get it, you're wasting the prime of your life trying to antagonize people (who don't give a shit) on the Internet
maybe you should try your shtick on reddit

>>60016279
>everything is about how the watch relates to your emotions and how it addresses your inferiority complex
lol

>>60016283
>people don't just ignore my obviously dumb austism anymore

FTFY

>all these SARB017s
>all out of stock

Fuck me they are nice

>>60016268
do you also believe that IQ is going up and that life expectancy has increased outside of improvements to infant mortality in addition to antibiotics? kek

My portrait of you so far is that of some numale faggot with all sorts of emotional issues. Seriously, you seem more pathetic with each new post.

>>60016323
It's you who clearly feels the need to feel like a special snowflake, not him. 38-42mm is completely standard today, anything smaller is you trying to be different for no real reason.

>>60016362
>38-42mm is completely standard today, anything smaller is you trying to be different for no real reason
>brushing your hair? dude it's not 1965
>hand tats are completely normal and most people agree
>yeah these holes in my ears make me look like i'm trying to copy an african tribesman but it's the new in thing bro
>lol it's not 1945 anymore grandpa

>>60016120
that's still really confusing. i'm assuming you mean spring drive then? that only exists in very expensive watches.

>>60016332
http://www.shoppinginjapan.net/alpinist-sarb017

>>60015754
While Tissot is normally rightly criticized for being a shitty pretend Swiss Swatch brand with designs usually deliberately screwed up so as to not undermine Omega, the specific model you are looking at is actually quite a decent value.

$155 for a quartz with a decent, simple design, reasonable quality quartz movement and sapphire crystal isn't bad at all. Just avoid the entire rest of their range.

>>60016362
>not him

>>60016313
>forcing a tiny watch meme
>"it was cool in 1941 and 1982!"
you trendy buttfag

>>60016381
Okay, thanks
>designs usually deliberately screwed up so as to not undermine Omega
They do this?

>>60016372
Congratulations for exactly proving my point. I'm sure your minuscule watch goes very well with your fedora in your quest to prove how above the classless masses you are in day to day life.

>>60016362
BINGO

>>60016378
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_quartz

Has a good list for seikos, looked up a couple with chronographs, they don't seem too expensive

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>>60016403
>anyone who isn't as clueless and ugly as me must also be inferior but for different reasons
>good is bad and bad is good
are you a literal nigger? like an actual person of african descent with an IQ of around 85? :^)

>>60016380
God damn I want to pull the trigger shiet

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>>60015871
Why, are all Lexus designs highly derivative of well known iconic designs from other automobile makers?

In reality, Steinhart offers oversized copies of iconic designs from other watchmakers, or designs its own utterly ghastly Invicta/U-Boat tier designs like pic related utter abortion.

Not even in a parallel taste free universe would Steinhart be acceptable.

>>60016348
kek not him, but how do you know what 'numale' is?

>>60008407
Where did you get that strap or has the original been replaced?

>>60016441
Would it actually go with the rest of what you wear

>>60016432
>all this projection

You clearly have a lot bigger insecurities than wearing a small watch to feel special. I'd recommend sorting those first and the change in the watch will follow naturally.

>>60016476
Leather jacket and jeans? I don't see why not.

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>>60016432
"omg it's ryan seacrest, he's wearing like this super nuvo-trendy 34mm in this pic I saw on TMZ. guize.... 34mm Is the NEW 44mm! let's go get some tiny watches and cute tanktops!"

Jesus Herbert Christ.

>>60016455
>how do you know what 'numale' is?
I lived in NYC for five years
>>60016478
>point out that everything you say relates to insecurity
>literally every post
>finally you resort to just "I know u are but what am I"
alright ok i'm done giving you (You)s, enjoy your life pathetic faggot

>>60016492
>Herbert
it's Harold

>>60016327
>>60016362
>>60016398
>>60016403
>>60016415
Kill yourself.

>>60016476
and the gayest comment apparently hasn't been made yet

we're down to
>"Would it actually go with the rest of what you wear!?"

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>b-b-but you can't wear a normal-sized watch because then my 42mm diver makes me look like a massive poser

Sorry bud.

>>60016495
I'm not the one trying to convince people thread after thread that it's the universe that's wrong and not themselves. You're literally the male equivalent of those girls who dye their hair blue and green in lieu of having anything else interesting to define themselves by.

>>60016194

your attitude is straining my patience because i have always found the giant watch trend repulsive and i have been a consistent voice of moderation in the face of watch size bloat. you also need to understand that i am old enough to remember what watches men were wearing in the 1980s — a good chunk of which were left over from the 1970s and even the 1960s — so my position is not one based on a lack of exposure, as yours is.

watches were larger than the range you describe, of course, at the very beginning of the age of the wristwatch, and shrank as miniaturization improved and small size became a symbol of status. the wavelength of the cycle seems to be much longer than with tie width, but rest assured that there is nothing intrinsically "right" about any particular size (within reason) and that watch size and design are still fashion characteristics that have to be read in the context of the prevailing trends.

>>60016508
you = >>60016432 's pic

trendy LA FAG

>"tiny watches are like so in right now 'Twan!"

>>60016509
It's quite an odd style of watch. Looks great on it's own, but it is goofy

>>60016526
>>60016194

sometimes, these things settle in to where all of the possible designs are timeless in some way, and the contribution of "current" trends becomes minimal — there are many types of men's shoes that have settled in this way. sometimes, they never do — neckties are an example of where the size you choose is ALWAYS something to be read in the context of the current trend. because of the expense of mechanical watches, and their long-term survivability with good maintenance, we should expect them, over the next couple of centuries, to settle in to a cycle of long wavelength (slow change from large to small or vice versa) and low amplitude (small contribution of fashion trends and large contribution of permanent personal style).

right now, wristwatches are still barely a century old as an article of men's attire. it is foolish and shortsighted of you to think that there is a "one" true size to return to, because the dinnerplate trend is just now testing for the first time how large watches can get and not look ridiculous, just as the tiny watch trend of the middle 20th century tested the other end.

>>60016532
>>60016194

the good news is that we've received our answer, and that most large watches do look quite ridiculous. but, like with the giant wide ties that have slowly crept back down to narrower widths, you must resist the urge to leap toward the smallest size you can find — and make no mistake, 34 mm is the SMALLEST size you can find. at no time has the predominant size of men's watches ever been smaller than that.

this is why i carefully chose the recommendation of 38 mm i gave for a normal everyday watch. 38 mm is passable no matter the prevailing trend and is a good long-term place to put your money given the past hundred years of watch size trends. when 33-36 mm was the norm, there were men wearing 38 mm watches that did not look out of place. today, when 40-45mm is the norm, there are men wearing 38 mm watches that do not look out of place. for the 41-42mm size, there are styles that have passed the test of time, but they are more limited in scope.

>>60016194
>>60016546

yes, kipper ties were extremely ugly and we are all glad they are gone. but the way to make a statement signaling against that trend at its height was not to reach for the skinniest tie of 50 years prior, but to just take it a step or two downward. your reaction is in fact extreme, because you are not suggesting a middle-of-the-road size that works with the whole range of sizes we know from wristwatch history. you have reached right for the far end of the smallest size trend.

but, then, that's to be expected, because you made your decision based on the distribution curve of watches from only a few decades when they were at their smallest, rather than on a broad historical look at men's attire trends in general.

>>60016526
You're talking to an angsty teen, who's embraced a tiny watch fad.

You just have to let those little retards play in their shit. They'll grow up and (hopefully) lose the trends in their 20's/30's -- depending on how shallow they are.

>>60016426
oh so you mean kinetic, yeah it's shit

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>>60016557

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>>60016553

>>60016589

speaking frankly, i am much more anxious for the rose gold trend to die than i am for anything else.

Today's women's watches are about 30-36mm.

It's just a new trend, these teenage males and their 34mm watches, calling people 'snowflake' and pretending they're conservative white men from 'Madmen'.

it'll pass. the little idiots are fickle if they're anything. and extraordinarily stupid.

>>60007167
Pretty much.
It's all up to reputation at this point.
And some logical inductions concerning the locations of certain factories owned by certain conglomerates.
Swatch have ETA factories in too many cheapo countries for them not to resist utilizing parts made there for their "swiss made" stuffs.

Lot of "swiss made" that's not actually made in china (or, shock horror, fuckng switzerland) are made in germany instead.

The greatest con that ever was:
"Swiss Time"

this guy is really desperate for responses heh

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>>60016599

>>60016607

just after the height of the wide tie craze, there was a similar counterculture of young men wearing skinny ties. to their credit, though, they all consciously and overtly expressed that their tie choice was a strong reaction against the trend, and did not falsely claim that it was the "normal" size of tie.

>>60016622

oof, make sure to get your shirt out of the way next time.

>>60016620
It may not amaze you (considering you're by far the minority in he world today) to know that it's several people posting with that opinion not one.

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>>60016633

>>60016622
>dat dial texture

Happen to know the ref m8?

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>>60016625

>>60016509
>would the watch go well with the rest of your attire
>gayest comment
these threads are cancer

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>itt Hublot aficionados try to rationalize their fetish

>>60016667
I don't, unfortunately, but it's probably a 75x movement model.

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>>60016607

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>>60016445
That design isn't that bad to be honest desu. Looks functional more than anything: nice oversized markers for legibility in adverse conditions, use of orange because orange is a color not used in alarm classifications, chunky buttons and bezel for ease of access with gloves, etc.
On par with some of the more expensive Sinns.

>>60016682
Not really, they just have one or 2 autists who need to convince themselves they haven't been making terrible decisions for years based on whatever pulled out of their arse criteria they can.

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>on-topic posts in the last 30 minutes: less than 10
>the vast majority of the thread is currently calling each other "gay" and arguing about case diameter and how it relates to masculinity
>recursive filter is still filtering these chuckleheads out
>these are the people I share this thread with

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>>60016722
(You)

>>60016694

here's a pair of hublot wearers who seem to have a solid grasp of the kind of statement their bizarre watches make.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpo8htCOTZc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vva51_OT9JY

...which is more than i can say for the average vintage extremist, who will insist to his grave that he's just trying to get a "normal" watch and is not consciously acting as a fashion reactionary.

>>60008061
It makes them easy money.
It's disgusting, and beneath them, but it's meat and potatoes shit keeps them going on easy street.

>yearly production of 45,000 pieces
It's more like 80k total; maybe 45k for ladies models or something.

I've heard around the web, and from some hardcore collectors that Patek's QC has really dropped in the past few years since they basically doubled production.
Not like they can suddenly magic up some extra master watchmakers to help them cope so they canniablised their repair teams leading to some horrible re-pair jobs.

Last I read (Sept. '16) they had, wisely, decided to ease up on production.
Either the market's slowing down, or they're trying to mitigate any further damage to their reputation caused by making way more shit, quicker, than they have been doing so in the past.

>>60008061
>>60016779
Quartz is objectively superior to automatic. The only reason to get an automatic is to imagine in your head that it's better. Full stop.

>>60016682
The weekends are really bad sometimes

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>>60016740
I was talking about this watch: >>60016445

And this Le Mans looks kind of neat desu as a novelty.

>>60010356
>Buy a standard Amphibian or Komandirskie then
The old chromed brass or the newer stainless?

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>Quartz is objectively superior to automatic

>>60016789 FOR PRESIDENT!

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Chronoswiss Timemaster with Heuerville rally strap.

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>>60016805
(You)

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>>60016918

Is it gay to buy an invicta and swap in a Rolex face?

>>60016936
you will also have to grind the invicta logo off the side of the case

>>60016936

yes.

>>60016734
Yes, and just buy a fake Rolex if you want a fake Rolex.

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what kind of asshole would buy an in-house movement?

with many in-house movements, the parts are only guaranteed to be manufactured for 10 years post-purchase.

that means that your watch is obsolete the second it dies, unless you have a small fortune to pay a watchmaker to machine a new movement.

I like the prospect of HAQ watches. Sadly they're not popular enough for enough demand. Which means a small selection.

everyone's fallen for the mechanical meme. for decades.

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>>60016742
>liken huge watch posters to Hublot aficionados
>immediately huge watch poster replies with youtube videos about Hublots

hahahaha

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today's hublot (pic related)

you might as well be an r. mille or breitling aficionado

>>60016971
>with many in-house movements, the parts are only guaranteed to be manufactured for 10 years post-purchase.
Which ones?
List them please because otherwise you're just talking out of your faggot ass.

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>finding rose gold 'repulsive'

>>60017102
all grand seikos to start.

>>60016973

oh if you think they are bad you have GOT to see phatkat collections!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_CiiItL2sE

>>60017148
it's not 10 years post-purchase, it's 10 years after the movement (not the watch) is discontinued

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It would be interesting to see the demographics in the thread like this.

Probably 20-something trendy hipsters with a conservative bent, sprinkled with some successful 30 and 40-something professionals...

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Oh yes. New watch.

Let me guess, /wt/ hates it...

>>60017233
those people don't use 4chan

>>60017242
neat
i don't like the movement seiko chose for the reissue, but it's pretty cool as a watch to own. now, wearing it...

>>60017242
Looks 80s as fuck, 7.9/10 would wear

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>>60017242