/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

I've got a Thinkpad T530 with no screen, no OS.
I've got a Mini DisplayPort to DVI-D cable, a VGA cable, an RJ45 cable, power adapter for the T530, and a non-EFI PXE server setup.
There is a password set for the BIOS, and I know the password.

I can't traverse bootup blind to get it to network boot. pls, anyone w/ a Thinkpad T530 willing to guide this blind anon?

>>59992914
is a 2008 t60 worth anything, it's fully functional

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>>59992914

T430 Master fucking race.

Add in a $50 SSD, $12 3rd party adapter, and $30 3rd party 94Wh battery.

$200 each (after upgrades) for a laptop that benchmarks within 10% of current gen ULVs and can be tossed off ladders.

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>>59993070
oops wrong image

>>59992914
Okay guys i just got a thinkpad and i put a ssd in it and tried to install windows it booted up to the home screen but it won't let me connect to the internet nothing even shows up to connect to
help please

>>59993068
Depending on the screen it's got they can be worth quite a bit. 1600x1200 IPS is rare as fuck, most listings I've seen for it on ebay want $300 or more if they know they have it. 1400x1050 IPS is also uncommon and I've seen those go for $150-$250. If it's a 14" or widescreen model, it won't be IPS, and won't be nearly as sought-after or valuable. 1400x1050 14" can still go for a decent price around $100. Anything 1024x768 is <$50 territory. Screen and condition are really the only things that matter for hardware so old.

>>59993135
ok, thanks

>>59993070
>>59993084
Damn, I got fucking ripped off for my T430.

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reposting this from the last thread

just installed 10 LTSB on my T420, when I was loading it up with 7zip the fan wasn't running
I've got all the drivers I can find installed, not sure if I'm missing something

>>59993261
Don't worry, I paid $200 for my first T430 and still had to buy an SSD and new battery. What'd you pay for yours?

Here I'm paying ~$200 total (for each, so $400 for two) for a brand new SSD, Battery, and Power Adapter.

I might flip one for a few bucks, but maybe not since Jewnovo is taking weeks (going on 4 now) to fix my P50s. Gonna be nice to have a well performing beater (or two!) in the meantime.

>>59993286

Does Lenovo's control suite stuff work on Win 10 with something like an xx20?

>>59993286
well I found the correct download for power manager and the fan runs now
>>59993365
some does and some doesn't, drivers are the harder part, but I was able to get everything including WWAN working fine

I just finished installing basic stuff on my x230 (got it for ~$120) any recomendation on some software that will help me keep it in decent condition/battery life ? And is msata SSD worth it (~$25 for 80GB intel one) ?

>>59993482
msata is only useful if you don't need WWAN and need 2 SSD's
if not just stick with a regular one

>>59993495
Crap :/ So I have to buy bigger ssd now :c
Aren't there 2 slots for mpcie ?

>>59993553
there's 1 that does mPCIe and 1 that is a mPCIe slot physically, but electrically is only mSATA (for SSD) or USB (for WWAN)

>>59993566
oh thx for the info

>>59993097
please help

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>>59993752
install drivers you ding dong
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=thinkpad+drivers+site%3Asupport.lenovo.com

>>59993752
>>59993097
You're a perfect candidate for suicide. Consider it.

>>59993097
>>59993752
There's no ethernet port on windows.
You have to install Wallsocket 8.

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Is the T420 a meme

>>59994355
yes

it's a good meme though

Hey Thinkfriends, I see some of y'all posting pictures of T420s with QM (quad core) CPUs. Is installing a quad core cpu in a T420 as simple as just doing it, or are there heat and fan issues to take into account?

I'm in the market for a quad core Thinkpad, and right now W520s seem to be my best bet for getting the jist of what I want without having to spend too much in post-purchase-upgrades.

>>59994448
>I'm in the market for a quad core Thinkpad, and right now W520s seem to be my best bet

Sorry, should add:
>quad core Thinkpad with the classic keyboard

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What faggy stickers are you guys rocking?

>>59994448
Heat can be a problem even without a QM, if you want to take full advantage of a powerful CPU, a 15" will be worth it.

>>59994767
So are you a child in middle school or the guy who lurks at middle schools?

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>>59994767
>shitty keyboard
>greasy laptop
>stickers
>gaymr controller

>>59993482
didn't know they were cheap. might get one for linux learning. having 3 drives is so comfy

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>>59994767
I've only got the one but i like it

>>59993482
yes: https://github.com/Bizzaro/x230-osx

this will keep it in better condition than brand new. born-again computing.

>>59994767
>>59994970
I'm gonna be getting a few for that post ironic haxxor nostalgia feel but I am definitely cutting away those shitty white edges.

>>59993482
where can you get an 80gb msata ssd for $25?

whats an x60 worth? found one in basically perfect condition, the seller wants 100 AUD, what should I offer?

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>take screen bezel off
>put blutac over holes for webcam
>tape up the retardedly bright battery and sleep lights

Much better.

what are some good smaller size thinkpads? like under 13"

Lenovo ThinkPad T500 2056 - 15.4" - Core 2 Duo T9400 - Windows 7 Home - 4 GB RAM - 160 GB with charger and dock for 70€
Y/N?

Someone here tell me why I shouldn't get a T470 with a FHD ips display, 8 gigs of ram, i5 7200u, 128 gb SSD +500 gb HDD and an oem 72w/hr battery if it only costs me 700 USD

>>59996189
A 6/10 yes, imo the dock is what makes it worth it

>>59995480
X220 or X270. Unless you wanna go further back than that those are the only solid options

>>59995211
For any online negotiations, half the asking price for your first offer, and then settle between your first offer and half way between their asking price and your first offer.

I.E. he wants 100, you say 50, your price range is between 50 and 75

>>59996369
Alright, I'll be contacting the seller. I hope it does not have any dGPU on it.

>>59996416
>>59996396
Also see what I said here, doesn't hurt to try to save a few bucks

>>59996396
hmm, i offered 75, no reply yet.. Ill keep your tips in mind though, im not used to haggling..

>>59996435
It's just a matter of realizing they want/need to sell it, and if they didn't it wouldn't be listed. You've got the power in the situation and some top tier hewing can be done if you know how to bargain with people

>>59996451
>It's just a matter of realizing they want/need to sell it, and if they didn't it wouldn't be listed.
i'd never thought of it like that.
> You've got the power in the situation
So that makes a lot of sense

>>59993070
No precision touchpad

>>59996492
>using a touchpad at all
>not using trackpoint exclusively
>not writing a bash script to disable your touchpad on login

SHIGGY

Is the x230 with x220 keyboard mod the last great thinkpad? Are any of you interested in the retro thinkpad that might get released later this year?

>>59996532
Pretty sure you can just download precision drivers too

>>59996532
scrolling is shit with the trackpoint.

>>59993777
Checked

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>>59993070
>T430 Master fucking race.

bought myself a new clit mous. worth it if you were considering it. i use it exclusively, i've gotten pretty good with his ass

>>59996451
>>59995211
seller says no offers, 100aud/75usd for an x60?

>>59996710
Yeah, its not a bad deal with the dock, just make sure you have use for it/really want it

>>59996647
>chiclet keyboard
you can mod a x20 series keyboard on very easily. It's also possible to overcome the network card thing but I admit it's very involved.

Anens I just bought the L412 with i5 M520 ( for 60 buckaroos shipping included). Is it any good ?

Got my X1 Carbon 2015 today, but the screen looks so grainy. Is there any fix to this?

Can I discuss other laptops here? I'm in dire need of suggestions concerning getting a new one, probably used.
Russia
700 usd and below
Around 15-17 inches would be perfect
I just want to be able to run modern vidya at at least 30 damn fps.

>>59997276
Try a hammer
T470 got delayed, again, I'm stuck computerless for an indeterminate amount of time.

Should i buy a T460?

Looking at a:

Thinkpad X201 (3626)
CPU: i5-540M
RAM: 4 GB
HDD: 160 GB
1280x800

Planning on swapping out the HDD for an SSD.

How does $190 sounds for such a laptop, it is allegedly a store front model, with a new battery and 6 months warranty.

Think pad buyers guide suggests $150, so not how good the deal is.

>>59997590
what country? that's a lot of money for a x201

IBM x61 laptop⁄ 2gb ram / 60gb hdd⁄intel core duo L7500

113usd, only x6x I can find in my country so far

>got T520
>swapped display out for B156HW01
>flashed coreboot, swapped CPU out for Ivy Bridge one
>replaced heatsink with NVS version
>replaced RAM with 2 × 8 1866mhz
>added msata ssd
>going to order an expresscard so I can have usb3.0 ports
>might get a drive caddy for the ultrabay eventually so I can have 2 HDDs

Is there anything left to upgrade/change on this thing? I'm pretty sure it's absolutely maxed out at this point.

Is Asus G74SX worth it if I can get one for 600$?

Was upgrading my librebooted T500 with a 2GB Turbo Memory Card I got off eBay. Checked to see if it was any good.

nandtest -l 0x20000000 /dev/mtd0
ECC corrections: 0
ECC failures : 0
Bad blocks : 0
BBT blocks : 0
Bad block at 0x00080000 4)...
Bad block at 0x000c0000
Bad block at 0x00100000
Bad block at 0x00140000
Bad block at 0x00400000 4)...
Bad block at 0x149c0000 4)...
Bad block at 0x150c0000 4)...
Bad block at 0x151c0000 4)...
Bad block at 0x152c0000 4)...
Bad block at 0x153c0000 4)...
Bad block at 0x155c0000 4)...
Bad block at 0x156c0000 4)...
Bad block at 0x15740000 4)...
Bad block at 0x15840000 4)...
Bad block at 0x15940000 4)...
Bad block at 0x15a40000 4)...
Bad block at 0x15ac0000 4)...
Bad block at 0x1e640000 4)...
1ffc0000: checking...of 4)...
Finished pass 1 successfully

This means it's pretty much defective and I should just return it, right? I couldn't even properly use ubiattach with it.

>>59992914
going to upgrade my t420 with an i7 2630qm.
how will that affect battery life from lived experience?

>>59998005
It will enter the Marianas trench.

>>59998005
first make sure you disable turbo boost and hyperthreading

>>59998021
yep sure thing after my cum-thermal-paste mix im ready.

tinkfan -mode "unengaged"

>>59997826
Croatia, Europe usually has a bit higher prices as far as I saw....

>buy T500 on ebay
>check photos to obseve condition
>photo of keyboard depicts a T400

If this happens am I fucked if I receive a T400?

Just got my X220 from the mail, it works perfectly and I'm loving it. Very glad I took your advice on this. My config is a basic i5, 8gb DDR3 ram. The screen is still TN crap and it's bugging me out to no end, so I'm ordering an IPS panel right away. What else is a good upgrade or measure to get the most out of my new machine?

>>59999309
Throw an mSata drive on it

>>59992942
I might be able to help you when I get home. I have a T430

>>59996647
>Ivy bridge is house fire
>Being so new that he doesn't know mobile cpus don't have heat spreaders
You have to go back

Hell, /tpg/!

I have a T510 that I purchased used about a year ago. Last night it kept shutting down and now it won't turn on at all because it apparently isn't getting any power from the battery. Not sure if it's the battery charger, the thinkpad battery or the cord or what the problem is. Any tips on troubleshooting to determine where the source of the problem lays? Or anyone else have a similar experience to this and how did you resolve it? Thanks.

>>59994448
You can just drop any second gen cpu on the T420 though if you want to use a QM cpu you're going to have to pick up the heatsink from the Nvidia version of the T420 unless you're in the mood for some house fires

>>59995480
X220 or X230

>>59996481
>Asymmetric keyboard
>>trash

>>59996617
It is if you don't use the middle button

>>59997457
If you want TB3, no, if you don't, yes

>>60000418
Solved this, it was the cord.

>>60000614
i love using the middle button on my x121e as an actual middle button. opening links in new tabs and closing tabs is so convenient with it. 2 finger scrolling and or using the pg up down keys is a bit annoying, but I'm okay with paying that price.

>>59996377
>>60000575
what about the n or e series?

>>59993396
if you can't find the win10 driver, just install the win8 one.

I've just got a T420 from ebay for a decent price. The only bad part is some minor scratches to the top and the keys have been used to the point of a shiny finish (cheap abs?)

Does /tpg/ have a go to guide on the best way to deal with the key issue or should I just get a new set of keys?

I think I broke my X220 keyboard.
I push the power button on it and it does not turn on. The battery icon, however does blink when I plug in the charger.

i was thinking about installing fedora workstation in my x220 (i5, 8gb ram, ssd+hdd) - how is it running compared to windows 10? i'm also concerned about the battery runtime (9cell, about 8,5h+ with win10). does it worth the switch?

Why is the T420 the /g/ approved laptop?

because it's easy to repair and plenty of spare parts?

>>60001691
Don't forget cheap as ass.

>>60001691
>>60001755
same goes for the x220.

bought a "T420p" on ebay the other day for $150.

item description was obviously a T420, but the pictures were very plainly of a T540p, so holy shit this could be happening.

I can't wait to get home and see what I got. worst case I have another T420 for only a bit more than a fully functioning one is worth. Best case I got a 540p for waaay under it's value.

>>60000745
In to the trash they go
Only the T, X, W and P series are proper thinkpads. The E and N series are equivalent specced models with worse build quality

>>60000671
I love using it as both a middle click and scroll button on my T430. Though this is only on Linux so I have even less reason to use Windows

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Found a broken T530 at my job's electronic waste.
Turns out to be a i7 quad core with graphics card and Full HD screen

I took the risk and bought a used motherboard and it just werk now.

What do you guys think I can sell this baby for? (Middle europe)

>>60002054
I would buy it for a pretty penny

>>60001691
Libreboot, the lack of battery and wlan card whitelists. The T430 is as easy to repair, has more options for keyboards, has the same tanky build as the T420 (carbon fiber reinforced nylon + magnesium rollcage) and it comes with a 3rd Gen core cpu without libreboot

If you're planning on buying one, unless you're planning on practicing your freetard or want to run a lot of sketchy chink batteries go for the T430

Just got a T420. What's the best way to get my SSD into this while not losing my old data but getting all the proper drivers to work?

>>60002590
transfer your important shit from HDD to flash drive / ext hard drive. or buy an external drive dock.
install SSD
install OS on SSD
transfer shit from step 1 onto SSD (if you're installing SSD alongside HDD, do the following instead of this step)
wipe HDD (with data on some other drive. flash / external)
format HDD into OS
transfer shit onto HDD
if you're running windows, make all your libraries sourced to your D drive, which presumably is your HDD

>>60002590
So you want to take out your SSD from an old PC and put it into the new Thinkpad?

If you run Windows 10 it should install all new drivers itself.
If you want all your shit from a HDD to a SSD there is migration software. No need to format and reinstall.

>>60002629
>>60002590
if you're asking about how to move an OS with all it's shit onto the SSD in one step, I'm not sure that's much of a thing.

Can you put a second HDD or SSD in a t460? Google only gives people dancing around the issue

>>59992914
Is the 9 cell battery for T420 really worth it?

How long one can last with tlp and if it's brand new?

Using the following configuration and as you can see baterry is good as dead.

System:    Host: T420 Kernel: 4.10.8-1-ARCH x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.9.4 Distro: Antergos Linux
Machine:   Device: laptop System: LENOVO product: 42363E1 v: ThinkPad T420
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 42363E1 UEFI [Legacy]: LENOVO v: 83ET79WW (1.49 ) date: 09/05/2016
Battery    BAT0: charge: 19.4 Wh 95.5% condition: 20.3/47.5 Wh (43%)
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5-2520M (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 3200 MHz 1: 905 MHz 2: 831 MHz 3: 993 MHz 4: 1454 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: [email protected]
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.0.2
Audio:     Card Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.10.8-1-ARCH
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
           IF: enp0s25 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] driver: iwlwifi
           IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (22.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST9500423AS size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 28G used: 7.4G (28%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0
           ID-2: /boot size: 753M used: 100M (14%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-3: /home size: 427G used: 92G (23%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-2
           ID-4: swap-1 size: 4.00GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/dm-1
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 1990

>>59998279
No, open a case with eBay and tell them the item you received wasn't as advertised, keep with it and they'll refund you

>>59993070
Shame about that garbage fucking screen.

>>60001885
2014 was a sad year for thinkpads

>>60002945
i ain't worried. like i said, i either get strong computing power in a weak frame for super cheap, or decent computing power in a strong frame for average.
i don't travel with it, so it can just be a desktop replacement for all I care.

>>60002990
If you really get a 540p though it's really good. Like the 40 series was shit but its still a lot more than 150$

>>60003020
that's exactly my reasoning. not my favorite aesthetic thinkpad, and not the best build quality, but for $150 i could roll dice.

>>59996647
>keyboard memes (which are just preference)
>needing to install autistic wifi cards in your laptop

lol alright buddy, you're taking the autism a little too far.

>>59996647
>my older laptop with worse specs is better
this meme is getting stale fast

>>60000000
>>59999999

>X230 Tablet w/ Touch
Feeling experimental, installing fedora 25 workstation on there would be considered an abomination?
Should i just go for arch?

>>60002000
ty m8

>>60003522
Also what about the docking station, how much trouble will i have getting that thing to work properly?

>>60003522
Why would that be an abomination? I hate Gnome with a passion but it seems to work nicely with touch based devices.

Also, docks should work OOTB.

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>>59992942
Okay I just checked out the BIOS and there is no easy way to enable network booting but there is something better. You can set your output as your default boot display

Hit F1 to get into your bios you should here beep if your mute isn't on
Left Down Down Down Enter
Now this should get you to the display menu in your bios
For vga: Down Enter
For display port: Down Down Enter
Press F10 Enter to save and exit

If you have trouble getting a display out just try every option after entering the menu until one of them boots up

>>59996647
>>60003440
>My older laptop with worse specs is better because I can satisfy my inner freetard easier

>>60003701
Right. That's not exactly a good reason to shit on the T430, especially since that's clearly not the reason we get the T430. The logic is just fucking retarded.

>>60003608
Alright thanks, i've had it running on the X61 and it was working just fine. was just wondering if i was going to run into any troubles if i did decide to install it there aswell.

>>60002796
what utility generated all of that info for you? Seems pretty useful.

>>60002796
It's a straight 40% increase in capacity. Do the math.

>>60002716
Pls respond

>>60005392
Can you remove the disc drive?

>>60002796
I just got one a while ago, the 6 cell that came with my t420 gave me about 3.5 hours, and the 9 cell (non OEM, from eBay) gives me about 5.5.

It's pretty nice, even if you don't go OEM.

>>60005501
I don't have a t460 but I'm asking since I consider buying it. The SSD is removable ofc

Is this the perfect thinkpad?

>x230 with core i7 3520m processor
>16gb ddr3 ram
>msata ssd
>ac wifi mod
>x220 keyboard mod
>1440p screen mod
>slice battery + 6cell battery

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>>60006296
>slice battery
>x220 keyboard

no

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>>60006296
>>60006387
btw
>falling for the 16gb ram meme

>>60006551
>he doesn't have to do serious computing involving hundreds of variables with thousands of observations
>he doesn't use virtual machines in his day to day work

stay unemployed and unproductive, anon.

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>>60006598
Yeah, that's what you totally do on a used 150 dollar laptop

>>60001691
cheap as a big mac
3 possible ssd drives
upgradeable CPU (to sandy bridge i7 quad)
great keyboard
usb3 with express card possible

>>60002590
clonezilla

>>60000482
nope, it doesn't get cooler, just more quiet.
just use arctic silver.

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>>59994767
thinking of buying a bad decisions slap next.

>>60006636
150 dollar laptop? With all the upgrades I just posted it costs at least $750.

>>60002590
acronis true image is what I use. it can copy the contents of one drive perfectly onto another. it costs money though, unless you have a western digital drive, then it's free I think.

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Just bought some more memory for my Thinkpad T430 (i5 3320m) since it's pretty easy for me to get up to 4GB usage and things start to slow down a lot.

I'm running GNOME, coming from 4GB to 8GB how much improvement can I expect to see? I know that the hd 4000 in the machine uses system memory as well so hopefully my graphics performance goes up a bit.

>>60006636
My $200 T430 can do all of that, are you retardo?

>>59996647
The only issues that should make a person choose a 220 over a keyboard swapped 230 is the need for a wireless N card or of they're autistic about the caps lock light.

Everything else is either objectively better or easily overcome.

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>>59992914
My elitebook 8470p just came in.
Other than a few scratches on the lid, it's absolutely immaculate.

It looks better than any of my thinkpads for sure, the brushed metal aesthetic looks and feels great.

The touchpad is fantastic, I never expected glass trackpads to feel this good to use, especially with KDE's robust touchpad support.

Both the clit buttons and touchpad buttons are rubberized and super comfy. Doesn't have any diver issues and worked with the SSD I pulled out of my X201 (rip) right away.
Also the boot screen is super fast compared to the thinkpad one, was in GRUB in less than a second.

Runs super cool, even with a riced out firefox full of tabs running 1080p youtube

Screen is great too. As good, if not a little better than my 1600x900 T420.

The BIOS options are MUCH more robust than a standard thinkpad one, and it's much appreciated. You can "sterilize" the HDD from the BIOS for example.


Now for the bad:
Keyboard layout is comply normie tier, and the chicklet keyboard doesn't feel as clicky as the newer thinkpads.

No middle button for click. but I got used to that surprisingly quick.


Overall worth the 150 cuckbucks I paid.
Very impressed, and overall I think it's a better option than the equivalent thinkpad (T420)

Definitely going to buy the 12" version of this and see if it's better than the X220/230.

Is it better (in terms of build quality) than a T400? Absolutely not. T430? Yes.

>>59993345
How is your p50 compared to newer laptops?
I can't decide if Zbooks are better than the T460 and P50 or not.

>>59996481
Are those hinges plastic or metal?
They look a lot less sturdy than the older style ones..

>>60007075
If youre not a n00b you can spend 30 to 40 shekels on the tools for spi programming to remove whitelists from bios and use ac wifi on an x230.

>>60007315
Hello hp employee.

>>60001885
>T540p
postan from an extremely well kept T540p, y'al

>>60007072
Of course you can, but I just got called unemployed by >>60006598
What kind of sane person runs VMs on a ThinkPad? Sure not an employed professional.

>>60006844
Still a +5 yrs old laptop

*shitposted from my Celsius H760 mobile workstation of my employer

>>59992914
Hi thinkfriends

Location: US
Price range: $450 max
Size range: 12" to 13"
Performance requirements: Enough for some super duper light 'gaming'. Like, ancient 5 dollar games on steam that run on linux.
Also programming, netflix, general shitposting. Nothing major but I would like to feel like I'm using an up to date machine, not a fucking caveman like I do with my shitty hp mini netbook. (I know, it was my first computer. I was retarded and I hate myself.)

Other requirements: Keyboard needs to be 10/10. I cannot fucking stand shitty laptop keyboards. It'd also be nice to have a good battery life. 5 or 6 hours during normal use. This can be ignored mostly since I'm not a fag and won't be writing a faggy socialism novel at starbucks.

kthx <3

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>>60008120
kek here's my X201
Why would I be shilling like 5 year old machines?

>>60008433
There's a reason for everything. :^)

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>>60008445
Is there a reason for your autism?
Here's an old GNOME shot from when I was trying it out

>>60007437
Metal obviously

>>60008433
You come here with your gateway drug. Buy a 4-8 year old elitebook today, tomorrow you'll be sucking cock for pavilions.

>>60008528
>tomorrow you'll be sucking cock for pavilions
Fucking kek
I'm kinda done buying laptops for now, maybe a 12" elitebook and a T400 if I find some good auctions for them while I'm bored over the summer, but that's pretty much it for now.

Also it seems I got jewed on this chink battery. It's supposed to be a 9cell, 7800mWh. Should I open a dispute?

>>60008528
This.

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>>60008566
whoops

>>60007982
Yeah I am a noob, but I'll keep that in my back pocket in case I care about doing that later.

>>60008566
Why do you bother buying multiple laptops? What do you use them all for?
Do you collect them or something?

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>>60008592
>Do you collect them or something?
Yeah, because I'm not rich enough to collect cars.
But the real reason is that I like them much better than the shit consumer machines out now, and old thinkpads like the T60/1. T400 and X200 are maximum fucking comfy, especially while running linux and something like MATE or Xfeces.

Also it helps fill the void.

>>60008646
>Also it helps fill the void.
:(

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>>60008646
Why not buy one and try to modify it for even more comfy?
Might be a good goal which will lead to a lot of new knowledge along the way and with plenty of challenges to overcome.
Imagine your apartment/room looking like a genuine cyberpunk abode instead of some vapid facsimile fashioned out of random ledstrips.
Imagine it.
A creation of your own rather than a collection of other people's creations.

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>>60008727
Modify what? A thinkpad or a consumer shitbox?

Also, I have a T61, T420, X200 and X201 (rip), all bought for less than a shit machine like pic related.
The most expensive one was the X201 that I bought 3 years ago for 170, it came with a dock and original power supply as well.
And it survived 3 years of me abusing it for school, it would sometimes be on all day at school, and then stay on all night too. I think the longest uptime was a month or so.

I also scored a basically new X200 for 30 bucks. Like it's so new the spring for the latch is still tight as fuck.

Watching old 4:3 anime on the T61 with the thinklight on is 100% certified comfy.

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>>60008853
fuck the gtk filepicker

>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW6J17hZ_Vgr6cQgd_kHt5A

>you'll never have a mature waifu that reviews thinkpads for a hobby

feels super bad man

>>60008853
Anything.

Holy shit. Browsing with the ThinkLight is really comfy.

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>>60008566
What the fuck?
What do I do about this?

>>60004812
The tool is called inxi with -Fz options

>>60004874
I know but just wanted to see if it is worth it. 5.5 hours as another anon mentioned is great.

>>60006074
Is there a chance you can drop some BAT0 stats for the non OEM battery or a link to the seller ?

Can the X200S be librebooted like the normal X200?

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Did 2K IPS for T430 ever happen?

Some rando on leddit claims to have solved the flickering issues and is now testing a new FHD mod on his T430.

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I is got an business Idea.
I want to make hoverboards.

In the movie back to the future, they had one where they jumped on and flew all around the place.

They made one of them and nobody has thought about making more...

I want to make money of this idea, where do i start?

>>60011580
AFAIK there is only 2k for x230.

>>60011799
First you should probably take your grade school ass to sleep.

>>60011580
Enjoy: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43820633263&toSite=main

Are **10 model's touchpads prone to failure?
For some reason mine occasionally acts up and only lets me go left or right, been using the trackpoint for now.

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Is renewing your thermal paste on a 5 year old ThinkPad a meme or could it really improve my temps?

i was considering upgrading my x301 because the battery is shit, and the CPU is horrible because its dual core. I also think the screen is pretty small. I was looking at the specs of the t420 and x220 which seem nice, but it looks like they only come with dual core? Is the only way to get a thinkpad with a quad core really to buy a 2.5kg+ w series? i want a 15 inch screen on a laptop with a decent quad core CPU, but don't want something that's ridiculously thick or heavy. I could probably afford a new-ish laptop, are there any new thinkpads that are portable with a quad core? I want something that's the same size and weight as a 15 inch macbook pro, but obviously not macshit.

>>60011075
bedposting with no lights on except for the thinklight is the apex of comfort

>>59996647

>this picture
>in this thread

Wow, its like Russian dolls of autism. So I can't use shitty knockoff chink housefire batteries and for some reason a different wifi card, who cares? Do you care that much about wifi cards?

Has anyone ever built a ThinkPad entirely or mostly out of new spares? If so, is it hard? Its something I'd like to do one day.

>>60012512
I picked up an X220 for $15 AU which had pretty much nothing but the case and motherboard. The upside was it was in near-perfect condition.
>Pulled keyboard from T410
>Already had SSD and 8GB RAM
>Went with a TN screen to keep it cheap, $50 off ebay
>Went with chink 6-cell since I didn't need battery life and wanted to keep it light, ~$22
In retrospect I should've gone with the 9 cell just to use it as a handle.
>Hard drive rails and cover plus spares for all of the screws since some were missing was ~$5 from china

It worked out fairly cheap since I already had a lot of stuff for it and the laptop itself was cheap even for something missing so many parts. If I had bought all of it at more ordinary prices I wouldn't have spent much less than the going rate for a complete specimen anyway, so it's probably only worth it if you're able to accumulate decent amounts of cheap spares over time.

>>60012306
also wondering about this... It's only an hours worth of work and $8 on amazon...

>>60012389
it's a pretty big difference senpai... ac wifi has speeds of like 900mbps or some shit

Should I get an xps 15 or a new thinkpad? I'm considering the fhd xps 15 because thinkpad screens still suck (and the thinkpads are all dual core, except for the massive and heavy ones).

Wtf is going on with my x201 internal WLAN card? It seems like every 2-3 minutes it hangs up/stops working for about 10 seconds.

>>60012736
Wait until thinkpad retro comes out in october.

>>60012826
you can replace it you know...

>>60012623

Thanks for the information. Did you buy any shit off AliExpress? I'd be able to basically order components for a whole ThinkPad off there. If you have, are items described as 'new' actually legit and in proper packaging etc? I've never dealt with chink sites before.

>>60012708

Why would I need wifi with those speeds? I don't transfer gigabytes of information every day across my home network.

>>60013032
farther range and shit too. why wouldn't you want better connection? don't be obtuse.

>>60013026
Nah, everything was off ebay, it just so happened that it was cheaper that way. The battery and HDD cover were both new from China (battery was shipped from within the country though because lithium) and all of it would probably be much the same prices off aliexpress just with longer shipping. The laptop itself and a lot of my spares came cheaply from a local IT disposal business that does occasional sales to offload broken laptops and other old stuff.

x230 mute LED doesn't work. Audio mutes just fine. Cleanest solution?

>>60013412
Replace keyboard. It's really clean, like 4 screws

>>60013412
>>60013437
Wait fuck, which os? I haven't been able to get that shit to light up on some wms too.

>>59997590
I paid $190 for a x230 a couple of days ago.

>>60006826
>it doesn't get cooler, it get quieter
Because that's because it's able cool it better you tard. The Nvidia cooler doesn't spin down and throttle the living fuck out of cpu. I was hitting 100+ with the stock 35 watt cooler now I get around 80 with the new cooler and i7

Just bought a T430. Should I use GPT/UEFI or MBR/BIOS for everything? Planning on Windows/Linux dual boot

>>59992914
Anyone has tips for this issue?

I've done the following:
sudo /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/tpacpi-bat -v -s ST 0 40
sudo /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/tpacpi-bat -v -s SP 0 80

but I'm currently on the charger and I'm getting a not charging and not discharging at 79%

sudo tlp-stat -b                                                                                                                                                             

+++ ThinkPad Extended Battery Functions
tp-smapi   = active
tpacpi-bat = active

+++ ThinkPad Battery Status: BAT0 (Main / Internal)
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/manufacturer               = LGC
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/model                      = 42T4911
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/manufacture_date           = 2011-07-04
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/first_use_date             = 2011-09-26
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/cycle_count                =    557
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/design_capacity            =  47520 [mWh]
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/last_full_capacity         =  20310 [mWh]
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/remaining_capacity         =  16140 [mWh]
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/remaining_percent          =     79 [%]
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/remaining_running_time_now = not_discharging [min]
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/remaining_charging_time    = not_charging [min]
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/power_now                  =      0 [mW]
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/power_avg                  =      0 [mW]
/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/state                      = idle

tpacpi-bat.BAT0.startThreshold                              =     40 [%]
tpacpi-bat.BAT0.stopThreshold                               =     80 [%]
tpacpi-bat.BAT0.forceDischarge                              =      0

Charge                                                      =   79.5 [%]
Capacity                                                    =   42.7 [%]

>>60013437
Nothing's wrong with the keyboard.

>>60013454
Arch. I've found shitloads of posts with recompiling acpi to fix this, but I can't be arsed since it's just the light that doesn't work - everything is functional otherwise.

>>60013498
GPT/UEFI. Windows doesn't work without it.

>>60013102

Ok well I forgot about the range but, still. I don't hang on the edge of my network's reach nor am I stealing wifi from neighbors. It would be nice to get such a wifi card but definitely not a dealbreaker.

>>60013494
can't judge for sure since i'm using a t430, but i've tested using the 3612qm with the stock heatsink and the nvidia heatsink and i actually got higher temps (around ~5c-10c) with the nvidia heatsink.

however, switching from paste that was on it my laptop when i bought it to even some cheap cooler master paste dropped my temps about 30c, though that may have been because someone replaced the cpu before selling it and did a super shitty job putting on paste.

>>60013918
>dropped my temps about 30c
What the fuck man did someone use chocolate instead of fucking thermal paste.
Personally under load I got much lower temps with with 3630QM. I wasn't able to hit 3 ghz under load

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If I plug pic related to mSATA slot will I be able to connect to internet through my carrier?

>>60014091
Not unless you have a driver for this kind of modem.

>>60014101
I'm running linux, shouldn't the generic drivers take care of it?

>>60012736
HP Zbook

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I just bought a new battery finally. 9 cell OEM lenovo. Goodbye 30 minute battery life.

I've plugged it in, but what do I do now? Is there a specific way I should condition it? Discharge it first? Charge it a certain amount?
Something like this. I want to make sure I don't somehow fuck it up somehow.

>>60014419
Charge to 100% then discharge to 0%
After that charge it to 100% then use it as you see fit.

>>60014419
First check the max capacity of the battery with acpi or whatever else
Lest you get jewed out of 2000mWh like me >>60011199

Also, what should I do about this anons? I feel like I'm gonna buy the label and he'll give me the run around when it comes to paying for it

>>60014513
>get jewed out of 2000mWh
What's the normal mWh should it be?
For 6 cell T420 battery?

Anon, I have a question.
What are chances there'll be selling batteries for T460s about two years from now on?
I've noticed they are actually removable but aren't considered customer replaceable by Lenovo, so they don't sell them - at least now.

>>60014532
Why would you get a 6 cell? A 9 cell is only a few bucks more and should give you at least an extra hour of battery

>>60014552
Wait, you can't remove the battery on the T460?

>>60014560
Because when I bought it I was told it's 9 cell battery.

>>60014586
Just check the max capacity

>>60014570
T460 has a customer replaceable battery. T460s does not, however, batteries it has aren't actually soldered in.

>>60014091
Isn't that a microSD card reader? If you're trying to connect to mobile networks then the cards are completely different, and most thinkpads already have a slot behind the battery for them anyway. Get whatever the factory WWAN card option for your model was.

>>60014613
>47.52 Wh
It's a 6 cell right?
Is this the normal capacity?

>>60014662
6 cells are generally like 48-52ish Wh, so yeah.
You should get a decent 2-3 hours out of that
>>60014628
Oh, so you just have to unscrew the back to get to it?
I don't see why it wouldn't be offered then, since they sell macbook batteries.

>>60014674
>Oh, so you just have to unscrew the back to get to it?
Eeyup
>I don't see why it wouldn't be offered then, since they sell macbook batteries.
Great to hear. I was concerned about the longevity of the laptop but knowing I'll be able to replace the battery when it'll inevitably wear out is good news.

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>>60014656
My bad.
Mine didn't come with one, so I just searched for "SIM card reader mSATA"
This should be the correct one, right?

How do you connect with it?
Do I need special application?

>>60014736
I don't have any first-hand experience with WWAN cards but I assume that that would be fine, though if ideally your laptop would have been a model that originally supported that card just to guarantee compatibility. Just don't forget that you also need antennas for it, assuming you're not just replacing the WLAN card or something.

So the wifi card in my T420 can't detect 5G wireless, which card do I get for it to do so?
Would I have to deal with BIOS whitelists and such?

>>60014813
>Just don't forget that you also need antennas for it
Where do I get those?
Shouldn't be included within the laptop?

>>60015101
They're only included if the laptop came with a WWAN card as far as I know. If you had any then they'd probably be floating around where the mPCIe slot is. They should just be the same as the Wifi ones though so you could always use those I guess. You can also buy them off ebay, just searching for "laptop antenna" gives me results, though of course they might be the wrong length. They also route through around the screen to get a good signal, so if you wanted to retrofit it properly you'd have to take half the laptop apart, hence needing a specific length. Otherwise you could probably just sacrifice on signal strength and run the antennas wherever is convenient if you're lazy, though maybe someone else in this thread will have an easier solution.

>an x220 with modern generation specs
hnnnnng

>>60015187
It's OK, it's there.
So I just shove a SIM card there, and it will show up as ...What would show up?

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>>60014736
I got one of these in my T530. How the hell do you use it? There is no SIM-Card slot on the entire laptop

ok so I finally ordered the following yesterday:
>HP 2570p 12,5" laptop, i5-3320m, 500GB HDD, 4GB RAM, extra HDD caddy
>16GiB Kingston HyperX RAM
>240GB Intel 535 SSD
>2TB Samsung M9T HDD
>i7-3740qm quad core CPU
>90W PSU
>thinkpad soft rim clit
>WWAN module
>BT module
>intel 7260 wlan module
>extra 90W PSU plus dock with key

How much did I fuck up? Should've got x230 instead?

>>60006840
is that a 2570p?
Did you try removing wlan whitelist?

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>>60016333

>>60016333
>i7-3740qm quad core CPU
>in a 12.5" laptop

housefire?

>>60016433
it is reported that it handles this cpu perfectly fine
It's also known to have a superior cooling system, unlike x230 which overheats even with i7-3520m

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>>60016428
let's face it, it looks superior in comparison with x230.
And you got instant access to all internals with just one switch

>>60016511
>looks superior
That's just opinion. I prefer the look of xx20 and xx30 ThinkPads over what you just posted.

>>60016511
Those Sandy/Ivy elitebooks were pretty awesome tbqh

>>60016511
i've got both, the 2560/2570 feels more solid but i prefer my x230

the hp having a removable processor certainly helps though

>>60016641
you're right, forget the look argument

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Ordered a new 9 cell genuine battery from ebay for less than the least sketchy looking Chinese knock off. TLP shows it as it having slightly more capacity than it was designed to. Feels good.

>>60016673
>Cycle count: Not supported

ayy

>>60016673
All genuine lelnopevovo batteries have more capacity than advertised
but in reality they still use shitty 2800mAh cells instead of 3400mAh ones (like dell or hp), and that's a good reason why I boycott this company

Just bought a t420. I have officially fallen for the meme.

The trackpad and trackpoint really are quite unresponsive. The keyboard is wild though.

>>60016333
that sounds pretty dank anon
it also has expresscard too right? You could even, dare I say, play vidya on it

>>60016757
yes it does, and it works with eGPUs

>>60015644
have you tried looking in the battery compartment? My T430 has its sim slot in behind the battery

>>60016766
nice, I run my T430 with a 1050ti. pretty comfy desu

>>60016428
>activate windows
kek

I am now the owner of a t420. Paid about 280 for it.

What should I do to it?

>>60016704
Cycle count wasn't supported on the original battery either, not really worried about it.

>>60016877
Burn it and get hp 2170p Master Race (tm) instead

>>60016877
I am >>60016755 and I paid $200 for it, plebstein

>>60016877
>im a owner of a t420

well, everyone is a t420 owner at this point

>>60016715
Fair enough. I was just happy about it as the original battery was down to around 33500mWh / 57000mWh.

How much should I expect to pay for a t430 with no HDD? Is there really no workaround for chink batteries?

>>59992914
The pajeets from /ptg/ stole our thread pic. We should do something about it.

>>59996647
>**20 series
T410 MASTER RACE FOOLS

Need a cheap laptop for next semester. My old Toshiba died last year ;(

Location: United States

Price range: 200 - 400

Size range: Something not too big

Performance requirements: Mainly schoolwork, light games.

Other requirements: Keyboard has to be nice.

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>>60016989
>hype spreads

>>60017033
More like street sharters spreads.

>>60012885
>Wait until thinkpad retro comes out in october.
where is the evidence

>>60017007
>1st gen CORE cpu
>32nm
>hd 1000 igpu
>no 16gb ram support
>no msata
>dogshit-tier screen
>gigantic power consumption
no thanks desu~

>>60017033
question is do I start a new /mkg/ thread with a rip off /tpg/ image

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>>59993070
>3rd party adapter

>>60017029
asl?

>>60017029
xx20 or xx30 series
X2xx if you want a 12.5" screen T4xx for a 14" screen
make sure youre getting the 900p variant for the T series and try to not to get tne nvidia variant as it gpu wont let you play any vidya and it eats up power for no good reason
and dont get the T430s or the T420s theyre pretty shit

>>60017084
Obviously

>>60017138
The fire rises brother >>60017159

>>59996542
there's some chinese mod that has modern'ish specs I think?

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You have 10 seconds to show me a better laptop
>protip
You can't

>>60017270
x1c

Hey tpg! I just got my t420 in the mail. I also purchased a little 64gb SSD to put my OS, Doom 2, and Sublime on. I've never actually installed a SSD before. It's extremely tiny and not in a case! Did I need to buy a case for it to go into? Can someone give me a clue as to how to install it? Can post a pic if needed.

I'm using this video as a comparison, by the way! The SSD I bought is smaller than the RAM stick he installs!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLAlTbA5GXQ

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>>59992914
Has this meme been tried yet in a T/W 430/530?

>>60017270

What a fucking abomination of a ThinkPad, disgusting.

>can't even make them flat black anymore

God dammit, Lenovo, what the fuck are you doing?

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>>60014513
Doing the discharge thing with the lenovo tools so I can't reboot into arch to use that utility.
If this tool is accurate enough though, this is what it's reporting.

>95.1Wh

Seems okay. 6 hours at ~80% seems a bit low for the 9 cell from what I've heard. I'm on an x220 here.

Of course, it's not calibrated yet so that figure could be trash.

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>>60016672
You got me curious on the "internals in one switch" thing however. So I looked it up and I must admit that this is pretty awesome

>>60016770
Is it right next to the battery pins? There is a thing that looks like a cardreader.

>>60016865
I don't have a harddrive for the newly fixed T530 yet. So I just put one in from another PC for testing (and to make this photo)

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Wat do /g/?

>>60017569
wow, stupid phone flipped the image when it uploaded. gay

>>60017505
yeah its the thing with the little pull tab and sim icon

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regular T520 user, (i7, 250gb ssd, 1tb ultrabay HDD, 16gb ram, only upgrade I have left to do is display and eGPU, my favorite machine i think i'll ever own), but got pic related from an older friend who had it sitting. guy tells me he's got two old laptops if i wanna fuck around with them, accept, first was an XP-era HP pavilion that was beat to shit and the other was a pleasant surprise, near mint elitebook 8440p, i5, 6gb ram. after fresh win7 install, initial impressions of this thing are pretty good. i feel like i'm cheating on my thinkpads but i feel like this is a respectable cousin or something, even /tpg/ allows it by name, can't be too haram. display is bright and sharp and it has the clitpoint, which leads to my question. can a thinkpad trackpoint cover fit on these? it's missing one rn so fuck it. i also need another docking station now fml.

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>>60017648
Looks like there is no "pull tab" for me. Thanks for the info! Maybe I'll take my ThinkPad out into nature sometime and shitpost in /tpg/ from the forest.

>>60014835
guys pls

>>60005392
Very strange nobody answered you. Hope you see this,

The t460 has a empty m.2 slot, where you can put an ssd, and have 2 effective HD's, without having to substitute your CD-Drive.

You will be looking for the 2240, like: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-256-SATA-Type-2240/dp/B00KLTPUG4

Wish i had the money to the t460, great machine!

>>60017350
Do they even have socketed CPUs?

>>60017412
You can do the same thing in linux
Just charge to 100% and let it run down to 0

>>60017350
>T430
FORGET IT. Don't even try.
t430 has problems with handling low-end i7-3630qm at 2.4GHz because it throttles like a motherfucker.
>W530
This i7 comes as an option in W530, and it's the highest ivy bridge mobile CPU available on the market. I'd buy it immediately if you got one

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>>60017033
you missed the Mechanical Keyboard General image

>>60019246
Just accidentally entered the /ptg/ thread due to the similar image. Fuck these memesters

x200 worth it? how the battery life on one running linux? i have a t420 but am looking for something smaller and portalble, is the x200 lighter than the t420?

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Got a SSD for my X61t and installed Windows 10. It detects wifi connections just fine but it just refuses to connect. I'm also not able to change the brightness and the CPU makes a electric whining sound every time audio is played. Is this shit fixable or should I just fuck off and give Linux a try?

>>60019006
Right. That'll take a while then.

It was looking like 8hrs there at 75%. I'm pretty happy with that.
Looking forward to see if arch is even more eco.

I'm currently running a T420.

Is it worth it to get a T440 and upgrade the screen to an IPS?

I could probably do it for around 300$ or so, but I want to know if anybody else made the upgrade and deemed it worthwhile.

>>60019727

Make sure you use Win10 LTSB or don't bother with windows at all. Also get linux anyway

>>60019793
Well fuck might as well go Linux anyways. Any distros that are lightweight? It's more of a casual use laptop anyways.

Can we add more RAM to the x1 carbon 5th gen ? Seems like ram is soldered, but they have 8 and 16 GB options, so not sure. How about older models?

I've got little to no experience with linux and I just got a t430 which I plan on putting linux on.
How fucked am I? Should I dual boot? It will have win7 on it by default.
Also how do I dual boot? Would it be better to just boot linux off a usb stick?

>>60019919
If you're new to Linux, Xubuntu or Debian. If you're experienced or want to be thrown in the deep end, Arch.

>>60019919
Pretty much this >>60020696

You could try manjaro. I've never used it, I just installed arch. I hear it's more user friendly though. Debian is a good shout anyway.

For what it's worth. My RAM usage on idle is 192mb on arch vs 1gb on win10 ltsb

I used to run win7 but even on a clean install idling, the fans were always spinning up to keep it cool.

>>60020696
>>60021015
I'm in the process of installing Mint by the time I read this. Should I still go for Debian or Xubuntu instead?

>>60021218
Mint is fine, tough i do like Xubuntu a lot.

>>60021536
Yeah now that I got it installed holy shit. Right out of the gate everything works perfectly and all the problems gone. Even the tablet button controls work without having to fuck with drivers.

I have a Lenovo thinkpad and I regret it so much

It's such a piece of shit, it's fucking trash
I want to fucking kill myself

>>60022312
hand over the thinkpad first, then you can do what you like

>>60019765
>T440
>not superior T440p

so question regarding the 440 and 450, can I change the keyboard in them to be the 420 or 430 keyboard?

>>60023199
no

>>60013890
By that logic why even have wireless? Its not like youre not sitting in your room shitposting anyways so why not ethetnet up... you see what im getting at? Of course, its not necessary by any means but its still nice to have.

where can i buy a T420 replacement keybaord with the right FRU (45N2071)? Ebay is full of clones with shitty switches.

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