Why does /g/ promote software communism?

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Because it benefits everyone.

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>>59954323
Software & information is a post scarcity realm.
The only possible place it can work.

Free software is better than nonfree.

because the alternative is getting cucked by propietary software

>>59954323
>he fell for the "communism is bad" meme
top kek. enjoy your brainwashing faggot

Daily reminder that you can dynamically link with GPL without you work being derivative
https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/eupl/news/why-viral-licensing-ghost

>>59954410
...people aren't actually this mentally diseased, are they?

>>59954323
are you retarded? it's anarcho capitalism at its finest. every free software had been created out of spite.

>>59954323
What is "software communism" OP? The closest thing I can think to what you're describing is proprietary software, although that is closer to software fascism.

>>59954323
Because I believe only the political and military elite has the right to use technology.

Because in a world where you can copy shit for basically free, communism makes sense.

>>59954323
>make something cool
>BSD license it
>some big jew corp takes it and uses it in some trillion-dollar proprietary software package and only repays you with some verbal credit in a tiny font on the "about" page
There is literally nothing more cucked in the entire universe than the BSD license. You're actively permitting and even encouraging the development of proprietary software that takes away EVERYONES freedoms.

Just ask yourself if you want more or less free software in the world. If you want more, use GPL, if you don't, kill yourself.

>>59954426
Let's put it this way.
Would you eat a cake that might contain poison or a cake that you can be sure doesn't?
You sure look stupid now.

>>59954323
Because

>Security is best done in the open. Everyone should be able to perform an audit on any software
>The value of everyone's knowledge is greater than your own
>The existence of open tools allows other people to create new stuff at low cost
>Software "communism" is not at odds with profits

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>>59954445

You mean software capitalism

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>>59954522

>>Software "communism" is not at odds with profits.

True

More like:

Software communism! - sponsored by Google and Facebook

>>59954416
That is incorrect. You must be thinking of LGPL. That is literally the difference between GPL and LGPL

>>59954516
So are you saying you don't ever eat a cake prepared by other people?

Daily reminder that only 10% of contributors to the Linux kernel work for free. The majority of contributors are employees at large corporations that are dependent on Linux for their day-to-day activities.

>>59954426
>literally all of your beliefs in life come from your hick parents
I feel sorry for you anon

>>59954655
>this somehow a bad thing
So what

>>59954654
Only if it's GNU/Cake.

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DO NOT BELIEVE THE INTELLECTUAL MONOPOLY JUDEN.

By definition, any form of state-backed artificial scarcity system is ANTI-LIBERAL.

ONLY FREE SOFTWARE IS POSSIBLY IN A REAL FREE ECONOMIC SYSTEM.

>>59954654
I wouldn't eat a cake prepared by ISIS

>>59954323
install gentoo

>>59954372
this

>>59954637
It depends on how you do it.
You are not allowed to send the GPL licensed blob with your blob.
But if the user brings them together, you didn't distribute them together and didn't break any license terms.

FSF *claims* that they would win a court case here, but have never done so and just try to intimidate people to not do it.

>>59954663
It's not. It's the reason why Linux is usable.

Just saying, that calling it software communism is pretty laughable. Software libertarianism is probably a better term desu.

>>59954676
>>>/pol/

>>59954704
Fair enough. Probably the best thing Linux achieved was being recognized by big corps as something worth investing in.

>>59954656
>literally all of your beliefs in life come from aging cat ladies
I feel incredibly sorry for you anon.

>>59954676
This.
>>59954707
Go eat a jewish cock somewhere else you statist scum.

>>59954727
>Fair enough. Probably the worst thing Linux achieved was being recognized by big corps as something worth investing in.
Fixed that for you.

>>59954771
>>>/pol/

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>>59954786
>waaa I want muh safe space DON'T YOU SEE THE GOVERMENT IS THERE TO PROTECT ME!!!

>>59954704
The last state of communism isn't that different from the last state in ideal libertarianism.

>>59954820
Who are you quoting?

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>>59954358
>>59954372
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>>59954410
Wrong answer. GPL embraces capitalism, free software = communism is a strawman and even Stallman himself says so.

>>59954707
>>59954786
Nice try copyright shill.
>>>/oven/

>>59954531
No, I do not. Proprietary software is propped up by a government-enforced monopoly. It's not even remotely close to a capitalistic idea.

>>59954826
At the end of the day nearly everyone wants full luxury communism except maybe some crazy ancaps.

>>59954410
t. Brainwashed commie kid.

>>59954877
Everyone wants it just like everyone wants world peace, it doesn't mean it's possible.

>>59954902
t. Brainwashed capitalist idiot.

Ever wondered why nobody actually wants to live in the USA that experience a decent country before?

Because they went ape shit crazy into capitalism, and all decent countries have some socialist ideas.

Just think about it, extrem versions of pretty much anything are the worst option.

>>59954968
>>>/pol/

>>59954902
>implying capitalism is benefique for non-rich people
obesity, laziness, poverty, mortgate, credit, mediocrity and so on is the goal of capitalism, there is not even one good reason to promote capitalism if you're less than millionaire.

>>59954902
>coming to a conclusion which contradicts the beliefs you were raised with is brainwashing
I don't believe you are really this retarded, anon

>>59954820
>>>/pol/
>>>/b/
>>>/trash/
>>>/reddit/r/the_donald

>>59954993
not him, but being a contrarian is just being a child.

also communism always fails because of scarcity and fundamental human greed.

Just because in software you've freed yourself of scarcity in software does not mean communism can work. You still need to eliminate the human factor.

Capitalism on the other hand turns greed into development and motivation towards positive change (if regulated correctly). Of course a 100% free market would likely have people running as much actual slave labor as they could get away with. But yeah

>federal minimum wage is good, but we should have a regional minimum wage that goes more fine grain than state
>the AMA should be abolished and lodge practice should come back to fix healthcare
>software does not need to be free. People can sell software under the GPL 2.0, and some people make good money doing it in super niche areas. Make a business like that if you want in on it.

>>59954826
You are retarded. Libertarianism and communism are basically opposite. You are probably thinking of liberal and not libertarian.

>>59955140
>drawing conclusions which happen to contradict the beliefs of the majority is "being a contrarian"
I don't believe you are this retarded, anon.

>this thread
>>>/pol/

>>59955188
>American education

>>59955227
Communism implies more government regulation. Liberatians want less government regulation. This isn't a difficult concept. On the other hand, liberals do want more government regulation.

>>59955253
What was the last book you read? Hell, skip that, even a simple wiki article would do to see that you're talking out of your ass and parroting bullshit from other idiots who talk out of their ass.

>>59955292
The libertarian parties own website has this as the title "Libertarian Party | Minimum Government. Maximum Freedom."

That is in direct contradiction with the idea of communism. Now fuck off you unedated retard.

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>>59955108
>triggered leftist cuck.

>>59954323
because they don't need to pay the bills living with mommy

>>59955384
>taking the bait

>>59955340
>libertarian parties own website
Great source. What does the democratic republic of Kongo say?

>That is in direct contradiction with the idea of communism.
"As soon as there is no longer any social class to be held in subjection, as soon as class rule, and the individual struggle for existence based upon our present anarchy in production, with the collisions and excesses arising from these, are removed, nothing more remains to be repressed, and a special repressive force, a state, is no longer necessary."

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>>59954323
free distribution of copies from an inexorable source is not communism

cheap or free distribution of products from a finite source which also depends on the lacking motivation from those who reap only equal benefits from it until they finally stop because it's finite... well that is communism and it's pretty much a failed ideology

>>59955437
>What the Libertarians say doesn't matter because they are biased
>Now, let me defend my argument by telling you what the Communists say

>>59954854
>literally believes property is theft
>"lol it's capitalism guys I swear!"
Nice try, shill. You're not fooling anyone.

>>59955384
>I’m so insecure about my opinions that I assume everyone I meet is the evil SJW boogieman and immediately have to tell them about the benefits of the free market and how much of a cuck they are
Go cry on >>>/pol/ , nobody comes to /g/ to listen to you talk politics.

>>59955530
What a political party claims is irrelevant to the actual ideology. Murican Libertarians pick only their reinterpretation of the bits of the idea, basically how Murican Christians don't give a fuck about most Christian values.

Or do you want to claim that North Korea and Kongo as examples against democracy given how both claim to be democratic?

>by telling you what the Communists say
The Communist manifesto not related to a specific party.

>>59955551
Who the fuck told gpl does not allow for property?

If anything you can choose to sell your software . eg red hat sells linux for 300€

>>59955629
Stallman is against intellectual property, you retard. Are you even aware of what's the subject of this thread?

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>>59955607

>>59955629

Red Hat sells support though.

The whole GPL concept of copyleft is opposed to the concept of property in copyright.

Read the GNU Manifesto.

>>59954828
>>59955108
#triggered

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>>59954323
You're in a technology board. Why would you expect anyone passionate about technology to defend an anti-reason, science and progress system like capitalism?

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>>59955787
>I'm entitled to you property because I work for you as stated by a voluntary contract!
>somehow wages aren't driven by supply and demand like everything else in a free market

>>59954410
>>59954676
>>59954820
>>59954902
>>59954968
>>59955384
>>59955661
>>59955785
I wish the mods would grow a spine and ban /pol/ shitposters. Practically nothing in this thread is anything to do with technology. Look at the OP, do you really think he intended a technology related discussion to stem from that? It's a rhetorical question, he obviously didn't. This is a poorly disguised /pol/ bait thread and its kind are ruining the entire website.

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>>59955929
>complaining about thread quality on shtitpost /g/enerals only because people disagree with my vews
Look, another leftist cuck.

>>59955911
>property
>free market
Thanks for pointing out the problems, anon!

>Butthurt over commie software.
You tards know you've got a Soviet-installed president, right?

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>>59955911
>I'm entitled to what somebody else produced because of some abstract concept called "property"
>somehow there should be no concept of justice in wages because the "market" is more important

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>>59954872

You need to read the definition of fascism.

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>>59956018
>deluded leftist
>>59956129
>voluntary trade and association is somehow unjust
AHAHAHAHHAAH
oh wait better shot someone and take aways his property, that justice armite?

>>59956320
>"voluntary" trade and association
>submit to your corporate overlords or die of hunger or exposure

conservatism is a mental illness

>>59956320
>never work
>be rich by stealing the product of others' work
>call that "voluntary trade and association"
>"haha see what I'm doing is perfectly okay lol stay mad"
Fuck off to your capitalist paradise of Somalia already.

Reminder that Linux is actually owned by corporations and the average Linux user is just a beta-tester.

>software communism
First, communism is just bait for socialism.
Second, in the socialism government, the software belong to the state.
Free Software the software belong to "everyone".


>>59955996
>complaining about thread quality
Global Rule 6, faggot.

Linux is for fucking faggots. It's too hard to use and always does bullshit that windows doesn't so.

/pol/eddit is leaking for sure

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>>59956387
>muh evil whitey is oppressing us
>muh infograph with a pig wearing a hat and monocule is proof that communism works goys!!

>>59956432
what an utterly pointless post

>>59956432
Like run stable? Sure, Loonix is ugly as hell but ironically it tends to "just work" unless you're having a weird ass system combination.

>>59956414
Linux faggots love big meaty cocks in their mouths. They love it when a rock hard dick goes shoved into it. That's why they shill it for free so their masters can blow their loads in them.

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>>59956463
>accuse communists of violence
>repeatedly spam a forced meme about throwing people who disagree with you off helicopters mid-flight

>>59956463
>I-I'm going to be rich too... just you wait...
>i-if it weren't for those damn asshole on welfare driving muh taxes up I could make money doing nothing too...

dumb smelly sociopath

>>59956488
>>59956490
Stop replying to paid corporate shills.

>>59956488
what do you get when you combine autism, poverty, low IQ and shitty parenting?

a right wing hick

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>>59955929
This.
I left /v/ because off-topic politics, please keep politics out of /g/.

>>59956507
Sad thing is that they aren't corporate shills but brainwashed cucks who hope their masters will give them bigger scraps.

>>59956488
Keep sucking that communist cock linux faggot. Work extra hard and daddy will fuck your tiny asshole hard tonight.

>>59956507
I am a paid russian shill mate it's my job

>>59956549
>shilling on 4chains instead of writing articles about the Führer
It's like you hate rubles.

>>59956549
I read that in a Russian accent.

>>59956540
>/v/
Dear God... But should horrible see your games be destroy by SJWs and your board by /pol/acs.

>>59955555

>>59956549
Why are you should shilling for reactOS?

>>59956577 (checked)
>>>[s4s]

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>>59956488
Communists don't believe in rights and private property, therefore they are exempted from the mutual contract of non aggression and morals, meaning they can be thrown out of helicopters without any moral implication.
>>59956490
>being OK with welfare
HAHAHAHAHA
fucking leftist you can't make this shit up.

>>59956626
This, cock sucking communists need to die to destroy the linux virus. They want us to work for free.

>>59956646
>communists want us to work for free
Uh... you're confusing us with capitalists, anon.

>>59954323
Free software is our version of free speech. Are you here to burn free speech like the commies do?

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>>59956626
>implying capitalists believe in rights for anyone but themselves

>>59956678
Communists don't believe in free speech so free software is not free speech

>>59954416
dynamic linking was a mistake

Daily reminder that communism has never been tried.

>>59954323
Because the internet isn't real-life.

>>59956722
Hate speech is not free speech. It hampers free speech. If you're okay with allowing hate speech, then you're the one against free speech here.

>>59956778
You're a mongoloid.

>>59956778
Sure, kiddo.

>>59956778
You should seriously be thrown out of a helicopter.

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>he's not an software anarchist

>>59956787
>>59956794
>>59956809
edgy teens pls leave

>>59954968
>Because they went ape shit crazy into capitalism, and all decent countries have some socialist ideas.
Really made me laugh.

>>59956816
>loving freedom is edgy but Stalinism in 2017 isn't edgy

Top reddit m8. Did your mom buy your estrogen injections for this month?

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>>59956816
>edgy teen
>hate speech hampers free speech

>>59954323
Why would you as a consumer shill for a product that costs money?
it is in interest of consumer to chose free products like gnu + linux or free web browsers like Firefox or chromium.
shilling for windows is like shilling for internet explorer 7

>>59956848
If nothing costs money, then there are no consumers or producers, idiot. Just slaves and masters. Read "Who owns the Future?" and fuck off.

>>59956757
It has been tried though. Usually ends with an army marching in.

>>59956904
>>59956757
Daily reminder that capitalism is working great for Haiti, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Sub-Saharan Africa, the Middle East... oh wait!

>>59956884

Actual slavery in our world is done in the name of corporate profit. Spare us your vacuous statements about slaves and masters.

>>59956884
>here, read a book written by someone from Microsoft
No, thanks!

>>59956949
And socialism works just wonderful on Venezuela.

>>59956884
why are you against competition from free software?
if your company you are shilling for does not produce anything better then free software it should move to other places, or change and become free software itself
same happened whit web browsers, same will happen whit windows and other software

>>59956965
>I don't read things that I don't agree with. I like to stay in my safe space subreddit full of fake news and tranny porn. I sure do love being a redditor. Please plunder my anus.

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>>59956982
>le "Venezuela sucks because of socialism and not American imperialism" meme

>>59957100
>recommend a book that's literal propaganda
>whine when nobody wants to read it
Stay rectally shattered.

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>>59957104
>le "it's not real socialism when brown people do it" meme

>>59955253
>Communism implies more government regulation.
Are all Americans like that?

>>59956904
Various types of socialism have been tried but not communism. Communism is stateless and no society has ever claimed to be communist.

>>59956982
Populism directly caused the depression. They replaced a shitty government with an even shittier one.

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>>59957122
>le "it's not imperialism when America does it" meme
MURKA A GUD BOY DEY DINDU NUFFIN

>>59957241
>excusing socialism with american imperialism

>>59957241
Any country that aids in killing communists is an ally in my book
t. Chilean

/pol/ is leaking

>>59957241
>coup d'etat with support of the CIA
Even the CIA said that the 73' coup in chile wasn't sposored by CIA, they knew about it only.
The sposored CIA coup was the Taquetazo, and, as expected of a useless intel agency, was frowned.

>>59957330
Deal with it.

>>59957349
Shhhh, that doesn't fit into the narrative that communism doesn't work only because muh evil USA is preventing it

>>59957292
Nice meme, but American imperialism cares about nothing but American interests. Fighting communism is only a pretense. It's only ideological ammunition. In practice, when it's convenient for America to support communists, they will support them. For instance: America supported communist dictator Plutarco Elías Calles in México. What, you thought México was bad because of "socialism"? Think again, all of Latin America is bad because the United States is always keeping them down and destabilizing the whole continent in order to gain political influence and easy access to its natural resources. Read a book and stop being naïve.

>>59957292
t. too young to live through the dictatorship

>>59957241
Half of these things aren't actually bad.

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>>59957417
You haven't been to South America lately, have you?

Kill all linux users. As long as linux is around communism will never die.

>>59956463
But capitalism works, when 1% of the worlds population owns half of the wealth on the planet?

>>59957477
>1%

>using memes that are almost 1 decade old

>>59957477
BAD GOY OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN

>>59957417
I'm south american. Fuck you.

>>59957394
You mean the US put into power? Funny how communism is called the root of all evil when capitalistic globalist elitist pigs keep having the US put up dictators or supply them so they can give each other a nice pat on the back from their slave owners.

>>59957330
Fuck off commie faggot

>>59954323
Stealing code from someone smarter than you are is always easier than coming up with that code yourself.

Companies want results, they do not care about having actually competent employees.

And here you have the reason why indians are taking over this market.

>>59957511
http://www.oxfam.org.uk/media-centre/press-releases/2016/01/62-people-own-same-as-half-world-says-oxfam-inequality-report-davos-world-economic-forum

The gap between the rich and the poor is increasing every year, don't drop out of high school in your next life

>>59957417
come here and see for yourself. just don't go to the touristy areas.

if you don't get kidnapped or killed, you then can have an opinion, otherwise, shut the fuck up.

>>59957446

Why did you post a picture of Texas, anon?

>>59954323
Because it's in my rational self-interest. I am not an idiot to support a property system when I don't own any property. If I were to be spawned on the first world territory and by that fact received 10 times more for my labour than I do now, it would make a little bit more sense to join reactionary forces and protect my middle-class crumbles, because one day™ I can become Steve Jobs...

>>59957393
Don't get me wrong, I know very well that a big government does inside and outside the borders.
but I prefer US interventionism over communism regimes every day of the week.

>>59957511
>it's old therefor it's wrong
You're right, Anon. It's gotten worse. 8 people own as much as 50% of the global population.
Eight.
People.
>We need less regulation! You're being too hard on us poor corporations, I have a family to feed!
Do you seriously believe them when they tell you this?

>>59957677
You don't seem to have understood my post. US interventionism often enables or even directly promotes communism when it's in America's best interest. I even gave you one instance of it.

>>59957380
The fun fact is that Allende even wasn't a communist in action, because the fuck moved between coorporativism and some kind of weird social democratic thinking.
The international left would have abandoned as a martir (as the USRR did in his time) if his goverment would ended without a coup.

>>59957714
>the fuck
the fucker.

>>59957714
Quadros of Brazil wasn't a commie either. He was even in favour of mass privatizations. Yet the CIA deposed him and, not a year later, threw a military coup.

>>59957643
Colombian here.
I don't understand your post, I don't see how these things are related to USA. Here on Colombia who murdered you and kidnapped you were the FARC, Marxist Guerrilla who believes on Communist principles.

>>59957694
>8 people own as much as 50% of the global population.
Does anyone have numbers from history? It's hard to believe it was ever more imbalanced.

>people think communism and libertarianism are opposites
What a load of shit. Communism is a stateless system where people should care about others, and libertarianism is a stateless system where people should care about themselves.

Communism is not attainable in the real world, it's too utopic, and libertarianism turns dystopic when put on practice, might as well return to the feudal ages.

>>59957801
The ways of CIA are inscrutable

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You faggots don't understand what communism is.
Communism is the political movement of the masses themselves, directed at reorganizing their conditions of existence. It is not muh parties, muh government, muh central planning or voting for socdems. It is anti-representational. Of course, as history shows, not any movement of the masses is like this and it can acquire reactionary direction, like in Hitler's times, when all mass activity was redirected from dealing with socio-economic antagonisms of capitalism to the upholding spooks of the nation building and physicall removing undesirable elements, but this in itself was the political outcome of the failure of communist movement.

>>59958058
> Communism is a system where people should care about others
It is not. Communism =/= altruism.

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>>59954358
>>59954410
did I here communism?

>>59957104
Except we haven't intervened in Venezuela in anyway. Venezuela collapsed because the leadership is too incompetent to move to a mixed model economy at the very least to keep their country solvent and still fell for the Communism/socialist meme.

>>59958408
You missed this helpful infographic, friend: >>59957241

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>>59957945
You'll notice the last time it was anywhere near this high it was during the great depression. It was at its lowest around the 50s, which we call the golden age of America. There is a direct relationship between wealth inequality and the health of the economy. There's another crash coming, and it's going to come hard.

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>>59958580

>>59957393
>All of Latin America is bad because its inhabited by dumb browns and therefore easily manipulated by the United States.

fixd

Demography is the only thing that leads to success, everything else is trivial.

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>>59955929

>>59958530
>le epic communism dun work cause evil burgers xD
Nah, Venezuela failed because the fuckers literally spent all the shit that they earned with oil in microwaves for the people and unsustainable social programs.

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>>59958120

>>59958913

But that`s how communism works.

>You must now grow corn and nothing but corn, comrade, or its the gulags.
>Y-Yes comrade!
>and then they starved to death.

>>59958580
>>59958656
t. Economic Illiterate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-qWILwGC8U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Cdu0D9h0g

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>>59958989
Still better than capitalism. Ask any Haitian.

>>59959104
This isn't in 1st world countries.

There is no way to fix this. You now how we try? Immigration. But you know what happens when we do that.
But (((They))) profit from more refugees.
Communism will not fix this.
Bit you support Communism. Wouldn't be smart enough to understand this.

>>59959104
But people have been dying of these things ever since the beginning of human time. Honestly, it's because of capitalism that we are finding and improving the tools to fix these problems in the world. Do you think an ideology that couldn't solve the problem of breadlines could be able to find a solution to world hunger?

>le gommunism doesnt worg XD
If communism doesn't work, then how come free software is superior to proprietary shitware?

Checkmate, factory owners!

>>59959483

Ummm... because it isn't? Literally every single piece of open sores software out there is subpar compared to its proprietary analogue. The only reason it's even relevant in a few niche markets is because it's cheap.

>>59959516
>a few niche markets
what did she mean by this?

>>59959183
>people starve to death on capitalism
>"IT'S NOT CAPITALISM'S FAULT, CAPITALISM DINDU NUFFIN"

>people starve to death on communism
>"HAHA WHAT A FAILURE GUYS LOOK HOW BAD COMMUNISM IS LMAO"

Nice double standards, faggot.