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when is AMD gonna get actual good drivers. My R7 370 is literally useless on Linux.

Second for MATE.

Does /fglt/ ever talk about OpenSUSE? It seems like a decent distro that doesn't get the exposure it deserves.

>>59950089
>>59944644

Would it be possible to learn enough about: iptables, heartbeat, zabbix, tcpdump, ansible and network stack in several days to prepare myself for linux sys admin job?

I think I'm pretty advanced linux user, just don't have any experience with sys admin related topics.

These are only requirements in job description. Should I try it?

Reading RMS essays / books always makes me want to contribute to the free software movement. Should I git gud at C again (which I haven't used for years) or is there anything useful I can do in Python?

>>59950196
or you can give them money.

>>59950150
you can always try. I had a job interview once for a similar job. They were looking for a novice and I just went out of school where didn't study linux stuff. They gave me a test on a linux machine where I had to do a bunch of stuff.
The test was basically "can you do some stuff with the CLI" and "can you google the problem to achieve the task we asked you".

I failed the test badly, but they told me it was a test targeted to people with more experience that did sys admin or web admin studies, so ofc I was gonna fail, but compared to most people they said I did smart stuff, managed to google most problem and did more than most people with the same experience and sometimes did better than people with better studies.

tl,dr: they gave me a test to found out if I'm retarded or not and they decided to hire me.

When talking about GNU/Linux in public, should I pronounce it as "Gnu slash Linux" or is the slash silent? What if I talk about it in German?

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What's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>59950268
>When talking about GNU/Linux in public, should I pronounce it as "Gnu slash Linux"
This.

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PC won't boot GNUB with Ubuntu 17.04, it boots directly to Windows instead.

1. Not showing up in the boot screen where I can select which one goes first
2. Ran boot-repair twice, nothing changed.

Does this have to do with 17.04?

>>59950089

There are only a handful of distributions worth using and all of them get the same amount of "exposure".

>turn on computer
>POST screen
>for a split second between POST and GRUB, there's another screen with text
>not enough time to figure it out

Is there a way to get it that's not timing an awkward photo which is impossible with my camera?

>>59950393
Rip GRUB

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Watchdog did not stop!
Watchdog did not stop!

>>59950393
You updated windows.
Windows update overwrites the bootloader (not always, depends on what update brings)

I am surprised however that boot-repair-disk didn't work.

>>59950457
Checked it twice and won't let me get rid of going straight to Windows after the Acer bios.

I just want to get rid of Windows, I don't even want to run both systems at the same time anymore because of the aggression of a Windows laptop.

>>59950393
The problem could also be that you put GRUB on a different disk than the one containing the Windows bootloader (or the same one, I don't remember which gave me issues). Try reinstalling Ubuntu and take note of which device you choose to put it on.

>>59950489
something about secureboot maybe?
I have very little experience with maintenance of post-2012 machines.

>>59950500
I put Ubuntu and Grub on the same one so that's probably what's the problem here, where should I put the boot, directly over the windows boot loader?

>>59950393
Also if you're going for a single OS system, just boot into a live distro, nuke the HDD using GPartEd (leaving it unpartitioned) and reinstall Ubuntu.

tl;dr
Can i use an old version of nautilius, the one from ubuntu in arch and can i integrate Terminator with it?

i'm running Arch(antergos) KDE and i use Terminator as my terminal emulator, unfortunatly it's not possible to integrate Terminator with Dolphin (open terminal here, open in terminal etc.). Nautilius looks similar and it seems to have all of the dolphin features i use (tabs, split).

>>59950513
Yes. You need to replace the Windows bootloader with grub.

Is it even possible to release software intended to run on Windows under a copyleft license or does the nature of the OS executing the program automatically make all applications running on it nonfree?

>>59950565
Will do, will report back.

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>>59950569
>or does the nature of the OS executing the program automatically make all applications running on it nonfree?
and how exactly is that supposed to work?

>>59949600
What is the best loonix software for viewing pdfs?

>>59950607
check the OP and the sticky friend.

If you don't like GTK3, there's a GTK2 version of Evince called Atril

>>59950620
Atril seems good. Thanks.

>>59950607
I like evince

>>59950549

It is possible to make Dolphin use a different default terminal emulator and it took me 32 seconds to find out how.

>>59950675
it is but not dolphin, it lacks somethingorother
forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=223&t=130716

>>59950272
Red Hat™ Enterprise Linux™

>>59950675
>>59950717
>it is but not dolphin
it is but not with terminator

>>59950268
gnu plus Linux, gnu and Linux or pronounce the slash. If you just say "GNU Linux" you incorrectly imply that Linux, the kernel, is a GNU project.

>>59950731
>If you just say "GNU Linux" you incorrectly imply that Linux, the kernel, is a GNU project.
I thought as much, hence why I'm asking what to do with the slash.

>>59950745
I like saying GNU and Linux

>>59950724
>>59950717

You said you wanted your terminal emulator to open when you click "Open terminal here" or "Open in terminal". That can be done. Of course you can't integrate a different terminal emulator into the Dolphin widget itself.

>>59950745
>>59950268
"The full operating system comprised of the GNU system plus the Linux kernel"

>>59950569
What do you think Firefox/VLC/LibreOffice etc for Windows are?

>>59950766
>You said you wanted your terminal emulator to open when you click "Open terminal here" or "Open in terminal".
not any terminal emulator, Terminator.
>i use Terminator as my terminal emulator
>it's not possible to integrate Terminator with Dolphin (open terminal here, open in terminal etc.)

>integrate a different terminal emulator into the Dolphin
that is what i want to do, with dolphin or other similar file manager, i thought about old nautilius becouse i recently used it and liked it.

>>59950832

Then you should look up online or on your distribution's forum or Wiki, because it's all explained on there.

>>59950818
They are programs which do not require Windows to run; they can be run on the various distributions of the GNU/Linux operating system. I am asking specifically about programs that *require* Windows to be the operating system underneath.

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>>59949600
Sharpened it up a bit.

>>59950832
Why does it have to be old nautilus?

So does any of you use lubuntu or xubuntu with disk encrpytion and has a "good" laptop?

>>59950900
No

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>>59950272

>>59950899
I don't like the new one, and the new gpt apps design in general.
It doesn't have to be nautilius, it can be something else.

>>59950867
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Windows-only_free_software

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>>59950922
Okay I just tried it in 4 different file managers and they all let you 'open in terminal' you just need to change what 'terminal' is.

'terminal' in this case launches whatever is set to default. So just change it. You probably need to use exo-preferred-applications. Search your programs for preferred applications or exo-preferred-applications and change the default terminal to what you want. Launch it from a terminal if you have to. If you don't have it, install it.

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>>59951009
>en.m.wikipedia.org
>.m

>>59949600
How to install the Nvidia drivers on Fedora 25?

>>59951068
Same guy

Will this do the trick?

dnf install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia akmod-nvidia "kernel-devel-uname-r == $(uname -r)"
dnf update -y

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Hey, guys. I want my i3blocks to show current playing mpd song. It's simple to do, but i want it to update only on song change.
There's such option in ncmpcpp but i don't want to depend on external client. Is it possible with mpd only?

>>59951068
>>59951072
Add the rpmfusion repo(s)
https://rpmfusion.org/Configuration/

Then
https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia

>>59951087
mpc

What the fuck with systemd?
Why it takes 1 min 30 s to shutdown the computer?

>>59951111
You mean, to check mpc output every N seconds? It's a bit of waste. It will be checking the same output for like 5 minutes. Its not optimal, don't you think?

>>59951110
I did that. I also used that exact site.

I rebooted and I loaded the 4.10 kernel and I got a black screen with white text. The last line of text reading something along the lines of "Starting GNOME Manager". "GNOME manager started". And nothing was happening.

So I booted into 4.8. How do I know if my graphic drivers have been installed?

>>59951132
It has to transfer your browser history to the FBI first.

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>>59951132
I just timed mine.

Shutdown = 13.80 seconds
Boot = 20.33 seconds

>>59951256

ctt() {
    a='(•_•)'
    b='( •_•)>⌐■-■'
    c='(⌐■_■)'
    printf '\e[?25l'
    printf '\r%s                     ' "${a}"
    sleep 0.5
    printf '\r%s                     ' "${b}"
    sleep 0.5
    printf '\r%s                     ' "${c}"
    sleep 0.5
    printf '\r%s: Can’t touch this.\n' "${c}"
    printf '\e[?25h'
}

>>59951287
lel

redpill me on suckless tools

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>>59951287
i dunno

>>59951318
Don't make me replace you with a very small shell script.

>>59951318
weird ideology stemming from the fallacious assumption that number of lines of code is the only measurement of software value.
They make good points, but their proposed alternative is rarely good enough to consider viable.

dmenu is probably the only good one.
Some people quote dwm as well.

Haven't used their distribution yet.

>>59951287
What do I need to do to execute this?

>>59951403
that's a simple shell function
copypaste into the terminal -> run cct
if you want to save it, copaste into your bashrc

>>59951403
>>59951287
Nevermind I understand that it's bash now

>>59951318
pretty accurate. Software should be as uncomplicated as possible, and lines of code is a good indicator of this. It isn't always possible to create simple solutions, so in a lot of situations complicated software is fine IMO.

>>59951391
dmenu is the bomb

>>59951560
deprecated by rofi

>>59951570
I'm still using the dmenu2 fork and I'm happy with it. Is there any reason to switch to rofi?

>>59951570
>Rofi is a window switcher, run dialog, ssh-launcher and dmenu replacement
this is going to be the next systemd

>>59950089
It's a pretty great distro, the main reason you don't hear about it here is because they don't do too much in terms of advertisements (like ubuntu).

The best thing about OpenSUSE is the team behind it, it is comprised of paid professionals from SUSE/Microfocus that work directly on OpenSUSE, as it shares the same base as SUSE Enterprise Linux. This makes it generally more appealing as most other distro's are run by mere hobbyist's.

is there something like mpd+ncmpcpp but for videos?

>>59952042
mpv, or as I've recently taken to calling it, m plus v.

>>59952042
mpv

New to GNU/Linux, have been dual booting.

Can I just skip the GRUB menu and go directly to my distro instead of choosing between Windows and GNU/Linux?

>>59952042
https://github.com/wildefyr/mpvc

>>59952076
>>59952080
>>59952094
thanks lads

>>59952089
Uninstall Windows.

>>59952089

GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT=0

press and hold shift before grub loads (but after bios/uefi loads) to show menu when you need it

>>59952089
Change the timeout, also interesting: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB/Tips_and_tricks#Hide_GRUB_unless_the_Shift_key_is_held_down

can I dualboot arch and debian? I like them both

>>59952126
>>59952120
Thanks. Also, I have been looking to the Arch side. I feel Debian-based distros are boring - is the other side really better?

>>59952161
If you want more action on Debian, you can upgrade to Debian Sid, which is as up to date as Arch and may break too.

>>59952161
it is what you make of it
not necessarily better but also not necessarily worse

>>59952179
My only gripe with Debian in general is the lack of proper support for Apparmor, even installing it and activating it is a pain.

>>59952161
There is no better distro. A distro should match the base of your needs, if it does, it's the best distro for you.

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>GNU/Linux

>>59952179
>>59952186
Which is generally more stable - Arch or Sid?

>>59952161
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux.

How do I make a bootable windows USB from arch? I broke my shit so I just deleted my parititions and torrented windows from a archbang liveusb, but I cant for the life of me get it to work. I made the USB ntfs and bootable and copied all the files over, but my machine wont boot it

>>59952216
>frogposting

>>59952231
>>>/g/friendlywindowsthread

>>59952219
Depends on the user. Both woun't break if you follow announcements of possible breakage.

>>59952231
https://github.com/slacka/WinUSB
or write usb using rufus from a Windows VM

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What are some cool terminal commands?

Is getting an Arch-based distro worth it for AUR and the wiki?

>>59952348
color 02 enter
tree enter

What is a good lightweight video player on ubuntu?

>>59949600

I have a question.
Do I need a DE to run GUI apps?
More specific, do I need to install KDE Plasma on CentOS before I can run Waterfox for ex? Or will the Waterfox GUI appear if I run it from CentOS without a DE?
Is software GUI dependent on the DE?

>>59952476
mpv

>>59952480
not at all.
all you need is X server.
To make it easier try tinywm, probably the least resource-consuming window manager out there, it's like 1MB of RAM on top of X.

>>59952363
>Arch based

Install the real thing.

I installed the firefox plugin to have access to the gnome extentions but i see a "ReferenceError: chrome is not defined" on every page i go and i can't install anything from there, why???

>>59952348

flipflop(){ 
    sed '
        y/!?_.<>/¡¿‾·></
        y/ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA/ZYXMΛ∩┴SɹQԀONW˥ʞſIHפℲƎpƆq∀/
        y/zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba/zʎxʍʌnʇsɹbdouɯlʞɾ!ɥƃɟǝpɔqɐ/
        y/9876543210/68ㄥ9ϛㄣƐᄅƖ0/
    ' <<< "${@:-$(</dev/stdin)}" | rev | tac
}

>>59949600
Hi, i want to use a vm with a separate partition for /var with reiserfs. Is formating a separate image enough or will the fs its saved on (ext4) negate the advantages of reiserfs ?

>>59952596
¡xnu!˥/∩Nפ ɟo suo!ʇnq!ɹʇs!p ʎllɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ suo!ʇnq!ɹʇs!p xnu!˥ pǝllɐɔ-os ǝɥʇ ll∀ ·xnu!˥/∩Nפ ɹo ,pǝppɐ xnu!˥ ɥʇ!ʍ ∩Nפ ʎllɐɔ!sɐq s! ɯǝʇsʎs ǝloɥʍ ǝɥʇ :ɯǝʇsʎs ƃu!ʇɐɹǝdo ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ɥʇ!ʍ uo!ʇɐu!qɯoɔ u! pǝsn ʎllɐɯɹou s! xnu!˥ ·ɯǝʇsʎs ƃu!ʇɐɹǝdo ǝʇǝldɯoɔ ɐ ɟo ʇxǝʇuoɔ ǝɥʇ u! uo!ʇɔunɟ ʎluo uɐɔ ʇ! ;ɟlǝsʇ! ʎq ssǝlǝsn ʇnq ,ɯǝʇsʎs ƃu!ʇɐɹǝdo uɐ ɟo ʇɹɐd lɐ!ʇuǝssǝ uɐ s! lǝuɹǝʞ ǝɥ┴ ·unɹ noʎ ʇɐɥʇ sɯɐɹƃoɹd ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ oʇ sǝɔɹnosǝɹ s'ǝu!ɥɔɐɯ ǝɥʇ sǝʇɐɔollɐ ʇɐɥʇ ɯǝʇsʎs ǝɥʇ u! ɯɐɹƃoɹd ǝɥʇ :lǝuɹǝʞ ǝɥʇ s! xnu!˥ ·ǝsn ʎǝɥʇ ɯǝʇsʎs ǝɥʇ ɟo ʇɹɐd ɐ ʇsnɾ s! ʇ! ʇnq ,ʇ! ƃu!sn ǝɹɐ ǝldoǝd ǝsǝɥʇ puɐ ,xnu!˥ ɐ s! ʎllɐǝɹ ǝɹǝɥ┴

·ʇɔǝɾoɹԀ ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ʎq pǝdolǝʌǝp ,ɯǝʇsʎs ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ʎllɐɔ!sɐq s! ʇ! ʇɐɥʇ ǝɹɐʍɐ ʇou ǝɹɐ sɹǝsn sʇ! ɟo ʎuɐɯ puɐ ,xnu!˥ pǝllɐɔ uǝʇɟo s! ʎɐpoʇ pǝsn ʎlǝp!ʍ s! ɥɔ!ɥʍ ∩Nפ ɟo uo!sɹǝʌ ǝɥʇ ,sʇuǝʌǝ ɟo uɹnʇ ɹɐ!lnɔǝd ɐ ɥƃnoɹɥ┴ ·ʇ! ƃu!z!lɐǝɹ ʇnoɥʇ!ʍ ,ʎɐp ʎɹǝʌǝ ɯǝʇsʎs ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ɟo uo!sɹǝʌ pǝ!ɟ!poɯ ɐ unɹ sɹǝsn ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎuɐW

·XISOԀ ʎq pǝu!ɟǝp sɐ SO llnɟ ɐ ƃu!s!ɹdɯoɔ sʇuǝuodɯoɔ ɯǝʇsʎs lɐʇ!ʌ puɐ sǝ!ʇ!l!ʇn llǝɥs ,sq!lǝɹoɔ ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ʎq lnɟǝsn ǝpɐɯ ɯǝʇsʎs ∩Nפ ƃu!uo!ʇɔunɟ ʎllnɟ ɐ ɟo ʇuǝuodɯoɔ ǝǝɹɟ ɹǝɥʇouɐ ɹǝɥʇɐɹ ʇnq ,ɟlǝsʇ! oʇun ɯǝʇsʎs ƃu!ʇɐɹǝdo uɐ ʇou s! xnu!˥ ·xnu!˥ snld ∩Nפ ,ʇ! ƃu!llɐɔ oʇ uǝʞɐʇ ʎlʇuǝɔǝɹ ǝʌ'I sɐ ɹo ,xnu!˥/∩Nפ ,ʇɔɐɟ u! s! ,xnu!˥ sɐ oʇ ƃu!ɹǝɟǝɹ ǝɹ'noʎ ʇɐɥM ·ʇuǝɯoɯ ɹoɟ ʇɔǝɾɹǝʇu! oʇ ǝʞ!l ʇsnɾ p'I

>>59952596
d-----: ƃƃnɟ

>>59952363
90% of the stuff in the arch wiki is true for all distros. The only arch specific thing is pacman. Systemd, the filesystem and program specific troubleshooting are basically the same on all distros. I use void and still check the arch wiki all the time. The AUR is pretty worthless imo. It is full of orphaned/abandoned packages. It's insecure by design. It's full of fonts, themes, proprietary software and other useless stuff, with a total lack of consistency.

>>59952348

sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /

>>59952683
ありがとうございます

>>59952596
⠁ (braille)

how do I transfer files from my android phone to my computer, using mtp, from the terminal?

>>59952550
thank you, I'll give it a

>>59952348
fortune | cowsay | espeak

>>59952363
Arch is horrible, as are its derivatives. Avoid them.
>systemd is not terrible, but it is the antithesis of Arch's claim to keeping things simple. It keeps things simple for the developers so they can minimise the effort of maintaining the distro, I suppose.
>developers are incompetent, stupid and lazy. they themselves admit that the 'simplicity' is all about minimising their work.
>pkgbuilds are shit compared to debs
>the official repos are actually tiny compared to Debian, or even Void, necessitating the AUR, which is shit.
>its initial installation is much larger than minimal void, debian and gentoo installs.
Just use Void instead if you want a distro that's actually simple, minimal and rolling release.

>>59952579

I see, so I don't need a DE but I do need a window manager for GUI. Since I assume CentOS proper doesn't come with a window manager by default and since I plan on installing a DE anyway, I might as well install KDE Plasma before Waterfox. I assume Plasma has a window manager otherwise it wouldn't be a DE.

>>59952938
Kwin is the kde's window manager.

Bear in mind Waterfox is a GTK application and will not integrate well into the Qt environment. It will pull GTK dependencies it needs to function.
There are Qt based browsers and there's also Chromium.

How fast is your machine?

time echo faggot{,,,,}{,,,,}{,,,,}{,,,,}{,,,,,,,,}{,,,,,,,,}{,,,,,,,,}{,,,,,,,,}|wc -w

>>59952728
>install adb on computer
>enable debugging on phone
>connect to phone using USB cable
>run

adb shell

to explore phone file structure,

adb push $localfile $remotefile

to copy to phone,

adb pull $remotefile $localfile

to copy from phone

Fuck MTP.

>>59953009
this
mtp is slow and buggy compared to just using abd

>>59953002
kill -9'd after 5 minutes
wtf is this shit

>>59953002
real 0m3.317s
user 0m3.347s
sys 0m0.293s

>>59953002
5.131s on i5-750

>>59953092
it prints faggot 4,100,625 times

>>59953002

4100625
echo faggot{,,,,}{,,,,}{,,,,}{,,,,}{,,,,,,,,}{,,,,,,,,}{,,,,,,,,}{,,,,,,,,}  0.42s user 0.07s system 73% cpu 0.678 total
wc -w  0.28s user 0.00s system 41% cpu 0.671 total

>>59953092
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/syntax/expansion/brace

>>59952728
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MTP
wow that was hard what an obscure article am i rite

>>59953137
This is neat:
>http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/syntax/expansion/brace#more_fun
>Braceify" generates the expansion code itself. In this example we inject that output into a template which displays the most terse brace expansion code that would expand "$arg" 1,000,000 times if evaluated. In this case, the output is:

>eval printf "$arg"{,,}{,,}{,,}{,,}{,,}{,,}{,,,,,}{,,,,,}{,,,,,}{,,,,,}{,,,,,}{,,,,,}

>>59953193
At this point I'd just for loop {1..1000000}

>>59952973
>There are Qt based browser
Such as?
>and there's also Chromium.
Does chromium track you like Chrome?What plugins does it have?

>>59953210
>for
>when iterating over ranges
>in shell scripts
not gonna make it

>>59952348
nl, shorter than cat, prints line numbers

>>59953248
default chromium still connects to google for a lot of stuff but there's a set of patches called ungoogled-chromium. It's in AUR
as far as I'm aware it supports all the same plugins

>>59952348
boxes

$ printf 'I actually forgot what this code block does, but it somehow keeps the program running, so please do not remove it.\n' | fmt | boxes -d c
/*************************************************************************/
/* I actually forgot what this code block does, but it somehow keeps the */
/* program running, so please do not remove it.                          */
/*************************************************************************/

>>59953400
That could be an alternative considering the bloat that's Firefox/Waterfox.

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>>59953248
browser of the beast, install icecat instead

>>59953475
>bloat
lmao

>>59953248
https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=500922
tl;dr
>downloaded binary blob that listened to your microphone
never trust open source

What's a good tiling solution for small displays?

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>>59949600
Is there any benefit to staying as close as possible to upstream packages?
Just about every package upgrade I do on Ubuntu is "package_name-ubuntu0.1" to "package_name-ubuntu0.2".

To me it seems like they're just adding hacked together solutions to problems that are specific to their distro, but I'm not sure.

Is Debian better at staying closer to upstream?

>>59949765
Buy RX 480

>>59951132
Bumping question

>>59953630
>Is Debian better at staying closer to upstream?
They are about the same. Most of ubuntu's package maintenance amounts to renaming package_name-debian0.1 to package_name-ubuntu0.1.

If you want to stay closer to upstream use Source Mage of LFS

>>59953717
>Source Mage of LFS
*or

>>59953736
Don't you have to manually keep things up to date in source-based systems like LFS?

>>59953482
>icecat

Does it support all/most of the firefox plugins?

>>59953847
Yeah, basically.
there is a tool called jhlfs that auto-downloads and builds LFS from the book's xml source. I think it's possible to use it to update your system in-place with little intervention. It also has experimental support for package managers (you'd have to "teach" jhlfs to use it though through config) and I think it supports BLFS as well. Bottom line is it's quite a bit of work to automate (also I don't know if there is any kind of dependency resolution supported in jhlfs or it just rebuilds everything that is located in the chapters of the LFS book following the chapter for the package that needs an update) but it's "possible"

>>59953981
>jhlfs
*jhalfs

I'm trying to access my Windows 10 NTFS drive. Whenever I click on it in file manager it says that the drive is hibernated and can't mount it. Problem is that grub fucked with the bootloader and I can't boot it. I don't have my install disc with me to repair the bootloader.

Is there software that can read the drive? I just want to pull some pics off it and nuke it.

what are some tweaks i can install for xfce to optimize space for my new t420? 1366x768 isn't so bad but i do want to squeeze some quality of life from it.

>>59953717
>>59953736

Hmm, maybe one day when I've learnt more about GNU/Linux, but for now my goal is just getting a fully-featured, beautiful and not too bloated system without having to compile or do much work.

I can live with them tweaking packages if it means the system is stable and I don't have to implement fixes myself.

>>59954411

sudo apt purge xfce4 -y && sudo apt install i3 -y

good thread

>>59954848
good post

>>59954895
GNU/post*

What is the best program available for the GNU/Linux system?

>>59954946
GNU

>>59954946
systemd

>>59954946
linux

>>59954972
GNU/systemd*

>>59954989
GNU/Linux*

>>59954946
vim!

>>59954972
>the best program
>systemd

WRONG:
If you build systemd with all configuration options enabled you will build 69 individual binaries. These binaries all serve different tasks, and are neatly separated for a number of reasons. For example, we designed systemd with security in mind, hence most daemons run at minimal privileges (using kernel capabilities, for example) and are responsible for very specific tasks only, to minimize their security surface and impact. Also, systemd parallelizes the boot more than any prior solution. This parallization happens by running more processes in parallel. Thus it is essential that systemd is nicely split up into many binaries and thus processes. In fact, many of these binaries are separated out so nicely, that they are very useful outside of systemd, too.

A package involving 69 individual binaries can hardly be called a single program. What is different from prior solutions however, is that we ship more components in a single tarball, and maintain them upstream in a single repository with a unified release cycle.

>>59955014
First off, systemd is not an init system, it has an init system as part of the systemd suite. systemd is a project to build a standardised lowlevel userland for Linux. The project is pretty comprehensive and it delivers a lot of functionality under one umbrella. It does away with a lot of older, often undermaintained software packages, which were traditionally used to assemble a low level userland.

Which is where the contention comes from, as a system suite systemd is restrictive for Unix virtuosi who are used to tailor a system with wit, ingenuity, a lick and a prayer and a couple dozen of unrelated packages. systemd makes such knowledge useless.

The faction that thinks that systemd is Linux's Hiroshima, finds all the added functionality bloat, unnecessary and dangerous, as it is all under development in one project.

All the systemd jokes stem from the comprehensiveness as a low level system suite. People against it love to joke that one day systemd will write its own kernel.

There is a lot of FUD and hate going around. Some arguments do have merit, a lot of eggs in one basket is certainly true, but as with all things in life, it depends which tradeoff you prefer. Do you want a suite of well designed software, working closely together, so that system management is streamlined or do you want the complete freedom to tailor your own low level system with a lot of time tested, interchangeable components.

I have no desire to be a low level system designer, so I prefer systemd. I don't hate traditional init systems though. If a Linux system has one and I need to work with it, I'm still happy it boots and starts the necessary services.

>>59955014
>systemd
>designed with security in mind
https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet

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>>59955027
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>59955059
WRONG

>>59954073
s mh t bh f am

Hi guys

I know this is a stupid question but I will ask anyway.
If I install mint on a new hard drive I have laying around and keep window on my current will I be able to access files on the Windows drive while using mint and vice versa?

>>59955081
>stallman
>google account
seems legit

>>59955081
Jokes on you, I'm not really Richard Stallman.

>>59955136
>tries to give GNU credit for something they didn't do
>not Richard Stallman

>>59955112
>access ntfs from mint
0 problems
>access ext4 from windows
install an extfs reader program, there are freeware ones

do you guys save your shell history?

Is there a program on linux that will generate an ftp link to a file on my server that I can then easily share via e-mail? It would be even better if it could use a custom user with limited privileges and password authentication

>>59955272
>unironically recommending """free"""ware programs

>>59949600
install windows 10 on his laptop

>>59955300
yes and I always store it publicly on github

>>59955305
How about

ftp://[email protected]/fuck/my.ass

>>59955315
shoot, wrong thread

>>59955332
I know I can create the links myself but I would like something to add to a right-click menu so I can just fire it off quick. Maybe I'll just write a script to append the filepath to the ftp prefix

>>59955081
FAKE.

>>59949600
Is Wayland a good replacement for X? When will it start shipping en masse?
Will we finally get good driver support from AMD/Nvidya? or is there something else that needs to be addressed first?

>>59955368
>Is Wayland a good replacement for X?

Literally as good as replacing sysvinit with systemd.

>>59955368
http://without-wayland.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_wayland

>>59955368
it's OK but there's a lot of stuff that hasn't been ported yet, like an x forwarding replacement or good remote desktop sharing like x2go or xvnc

Messed up when resizing my LUKS LVM, going to re-install. Convince me on your distro.

>install gentoo

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>>59955394
was hoping it's real

>>59955366

echo "ftp://[email protected]$(pwd)"

why do so many gnu+linux users like anime?

>>59955475
pwd won't return the filename

I'm trying to do this with caja-actions

>>59955564
Linux*

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>>59955573
>>59955475

got it

>>59955564
*GNU-Linux

>>59955664
GNU/Retard*

>>59955573
>>59955619
You need to be asking yourself the following questions:
>Why don't you have 2 seconds to type the ftp prefix?
>Why aren't your friends able to add the prefix themselves?
>Why are you not using your terminal?
>Why are you in a GNU/Linux enthusiast thread on a technology enthusiast image board?

When's gentoo going to switch toolchain to gcc 6.3

>>59955712
already finished bucko

>>59955847
>Hey guys I heard you're enthusiasts with a disdain for people using GUI tools, how do I do this trivial thing that I could have looked up on my own using GUI tools?

Is there any FOSS """cloud""" aggregator and encryption software for GNU OS

>>59955880
stop sperging

If I'm going to be e-mailing people I'm going to be using a gui anyways

Sure I could use xclip and do it from the terminal but I've got to launch a browser anyways so I might as well just do it from my file manager

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>cloud

>>59949600
i-is tux okey?

If I switch to debian stretch now, will it break my xfce configs?

>>59955979
>sending emails from the browser
>not even a GUI email client but a fucking browser
>not using the terminal for all your file managing needs anyway
>trying to defend your shattered pleb honor instead of accepting defeat and humbly asking to be educated in the ways of the CLI hacker
This keeps getting better and better.

>>59956040
>GUI email client

2002 called

>>59956053
I agree, CLI email clients are vastly superior. However, I can understand wanting to use them as emails often contain pdf and image attachments which one may want to preview prior to downloading, which is awkward to do in a CLI client.

You guys think that t430 on newegg's flash sale would make for a good linux machine?

>>59956157
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

>>59956157
yeah.

>>59956168
Oh, excuse me.

You guys think that t430 on newegg's flash sale would make for a good GNU/Linux machine?

>>59956502
Let me try that again.

Wanted to delete a line from a file using sed.

$ cat "$myfile" | sed 's/^startofline.*$//' > "$myfile"

Now

$ cat "$myfile"

is empty. If I try appending the sed output instead of just redirecting it and overwriting myfile, it works as expected (myfile contains the original file contents, plus the file contents minus the line I wanted to delete). Is this intended behavior? What's a better way to update files?

>>59956193
Linux*

>>59956534

$ cat "$myfile" | sed 's/^startofline.*$//' >> tmp && mv tmp "$myfile"

>>59956565
OK. But why can't I simply overwrite myfile with the > redirection?

>>59956593
why not inverse grep?

>>59956534
sed -i 's/^startofline.*$//' "$myfile"

Is there a command or something for booting into a specific grub partition without using the boot menu?

On I one time basis I mean. So I don't have to wait for the menu and can just walk away from the computer while it restarts.

>>59956534
>Is this intended behavior?
yes
use -i if your sed supports it

>>59956602
That might work for the special case of wanting to delete lines (or parts of them) but what if I want to substitute it for something different?

>>59956610
>>59956633
I should really check the switches I can use before asking. Thanks.

>>59956628
I have a few ideas in mind, but elaborate first EXACTLY what you want.

>>59956784
Well. It might sound a bit silly. But I have sort of a ritual to boot my computer into Linux in the morning, where I read the news, email, twitter and all that stuff, but then I generally boot into Windows to do some work. So it would be nice to have a quick way to do it where I can just write a command in the terminal or something where grub will sort of skip the whole boot menu and go directly to windows, so I won't have to wait for it and select windows, so I can just write the command, go get a cup of coffee, and windows is there, fully loaded. I mean, I would just be saving a few seconds but I thought I might as well ask if there was an easy way to do it.

>>59956874
GNU/Linux*

>>59956874
Get rid of Windows, it's malware.

>>59956874
why not kvm?

The easiest approach though would be to install linux to an external drive and let your computer's uefi select the bootup drive. just unplug the drive and restart to make it bootup to the second boot option (windows)

>>59956874
grub-reboot

>>59956874
If you don't mind windows being the default in grub, you can go to /etc/grub.d and change the file order, putting "os-proper" before "linux"

>>59956935
GNU/Linux*

>>59956902
I will when Autodesk and Adobe start officially support to Linux.

>>59956935
>why not kvm?
I would like to try GPU-Passthrough but my old CPU isn't supported. I hope to give it a go next time I upgrade my computer If I ever manage to get it working with my limited knowledge.

>The easiest approach though would be to install linux to an external drive and let your computer's uefi select the bootup drive. just unplug the drive and restart to make it bootup to the second boot option (windows)
To be honest at that point I think I'd rather just spend the extra 5-10 seconds and for te boot menu to appear. This was more of a "if there is a clean easy way to do it might as well try" line of thinking rather than a necessity. Thanks though.

>>59956959
I prefer to have Linux start up automatically when I turn on my computer so I can then manually boot into Windows.

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>>59957024
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59957024
>I will when Autodesk and Adobe start officially support to Linux.
That's like visiting a brotel in order to fuck a guy. Stop using nonfree software.

>>59957069
But I need to make money in order to feed myself.

>>59957024
>To be honest at that point I think I'd rather just spend the extra 5-10 seconds and for te boot menu to appear.
Are you fucking serious? >>59956951
here's how to use it: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubReboot

>>59957069
people like you are the reason why linux will never win market share

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>>59957095
Oh fuck. Missed that among answering all the posts.

This is exactly what I wanted. Thanks anon. I appropriate it.

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>>59957118
Adding nonfree software to the GNU/Linux system may increase the popularity, if by popularity we mean the number of people using some of GNU/Linux in combination with nonfree software. But at the same time, it implicitly encourages the community to accept nonfree software as a good thing, and forget the goal of freedom. It is not good to drive faster if you can't stay on the road.

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>>59957118
They'll never get native support. Use an emulation layer or fuck off to Windows

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why aren't you using manjaro?

Why would anyone use [[ ]] instead of good old test or [ ]?

How to remove packages that were installed along meta-packages using apt ? I've installed the meta-package called "science-mathematics" on Debian Jessie and I have this problem. There are over 700 packages in this one.

>>59957575
[[ is better
[ is shite

>>59957575
If you use bash, use [[ ]], if you write a portable sh-script, use [ or test. Using [ or test in bash makes no sense since it has less features and is less error prone.

>>59957575
>not using (())

>>59957575
[[ can regex

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Arch is starting to frustrate me. I've installed 3 different packages (gvfs, ntfs-3g, and udisk2) in an attempt to make my external drives "just werk". Before I installed ntfs-3g, I was able to access all of them, but they were read-only. While trying to make them read/write with that package, I somehow made them all inaccessible. Any tips? I had to boot back into Windows 7 because Arch can't currently read any files from my external drives (ie all of my files since that's where I keep anything besides the OS anyway) and I can't read the files I saved to the desktop of my Arch install in Windows 7. Should I just uninstall all those packages and try to start over?

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>>59957615
>writing portable shell scripts
No. Fuck portability.
- use newest bash features
- use \e instead of \033
- the bash binary is in #!/bin/bash. idc where it is on your Applel.
- BSD doesn't support the -x flag? Let me remind your of your words:
>"GNU is so bloated!!"
Support your home! Stay incompatible!

>>59957865
>uncommon opinions
>>>/b/

Well shit, how do you like that. Somehow after booting back into Arch all of my externals mounted automatically (It took a few seconds, not really a fan of that but it's not too big of a deal considering how I have to spend 3 or more minutes waiting for explorer to stop crashing on Windows before I can even get to them) and when I checked the properties they were all read/write.

Is the general rule of thumb to just reboot if you install a package to do a certain thing and that certain thing isn't happening? This is pretty much the last problem I had, I might actually be able to start using this completely and give up Windows.

>>59957859
Just use a normal distro of linux like a sane man you fucking cum gargling aspergic faggot lord.

>>59958079
GNU/Linux*

>>59954257
you can either;
- mount it readonly, hibernate will be left intact (mount -o ro)
- clear the hibernate bit and mount read/write, this will break the hibernate (ntfsfix -d /dev/sdz1)

>>59958079
>cum gargling
You say that like it's a bad thing.

>>59949600
>2017
>I still waiting for a stable user-friendly GNU/Linux distro.

>>59958303
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux.

>>59958079
I've tried the normal distros and all of them were just as frustrating for me as Arch has been. Actually, Arch has been the easiest one for some reason, probably because of the wiki and the fact that I never expected it to just werk, unlike the other ones where I was tricked into thinking they would be useable out of the box. The Arch install process and getting all the post-install shit done literally takes less time than a Debian install. The netinstall wouldn't even work because my ethernet port had non-free firmware, lmao.

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>>59958310
>2000+20-3
>installing smeagol

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>>59958318
>>59958079
>normal distro
What is a "normal distro"?

>>59958350
I'm assuming he's talking about Debian and Ubuntu.

>>59958350
A distro for normies.

>>59958350
Ubunut

>>59958350
Something that will have basic computing capabilities out of the box. The guy was complaining that the distro won't even see his fucking HDDs who the fuck wants to go through that pain?

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>>59957865

>>59949600
Any arch users experiencing constant "No keyserver available" errors while using GnuPG? I'm wondering if it's the same bug from a few months ago.

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>>59955368
>Is Wayland a good replacement for X?
No, is a security risk
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Systemd-230-FBDEV-Woe

>When will it start shipping en masse?
When RedHat pays enough shills for its backdoor

>Will we finally get good driver support from AMD/Nvidya?
No, as Wayland is sabotage that's the point actually

>or is there something else that needs to be addressed first?
Yes, the systemd dependency problem its application has and the trojan horse this represents is just one of the many issues

>>59959260
There was no bug " a few months ago".
Dont use the default keyserver use something more reliable

>>59955368
You need a good DE since Wayland offloads much more onto it, than x.

>>59952231
if youre using a disk image for the os just use the dd command https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_flash_installation_media

>>59955368
>>59959409
Hey, me again. Realized you had no reason to believe anything I said... so:
I've been a sys admin since 2015. I have used many server OSs but by far my preferred one is Arch™.
The two biggest systems I've managed were an offshore Virtual Network and a system that uploaded and downloaded all kind of media from thousands of other machines.

Also as you can see, the link I provided in my previous post presents really well structured arguments that absolutely destroy systemd. Some storm fags will try to dismiss it as vain but you shall pay no attention to them.

>>59959654
Sadly not everyone in /g/ has enough qualifications to understand the technical implications, and even less brain to understand the business dark side of the whole thing

Already up and running elogind on my manjaro works like a charm, consolekit is outdated
There are now zero reasons to use systemd since theres eudev and elogind already

>>59959654
You're equating Wayland with Weston though.

>>59959734
Did you read it?

>>59959730
Can't you just get rid of ConsoleKit/logind completely?
There's no point running it on a single-user machine.

>>59959753
I read your post.
You're talking about a systemd dependency, which is a Weston problem not a Wayland problem.

>>59959734
>implying you have any choice between actual servers

>>59959779
Did you read both posts?
This one: >>59959654
and this one: >>59959409
???

>>59959789
kwin mutter

>>59959796
Yes, why?

>>59959796
One more link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_%28software%29#Controversy

Strangely, the wiki editors attempt to put blame on the Mir side by mocking good decisions of things like a GPL license

If this isn't marketing by RedHat it sure looks like too much coincidence for a smear campaign of any competition

>>59959808
So, we are not the same person.
This person provided some retarded arguments: >>59959409

Then I, ironically pretended to be her, here: >>59959654

Breaking my post down:
>I've been a sys admin since 2015
That was meant as a joke.

>server OSs but by far my preferred one is Arch™.
This part kinda of really throws shit on the fan.

>The two biggest systems I've managed were an offshore Virtual Network and a system that uploaded and downloaded all kind of media from thousands of other machines.
Personal VPN and SeedBox.

>Also as you can see, the link I provided in my previous post presents really well structured arguments that absolutely destroy systemd.
It doesn't.

>>59959835
It really hurts when you put so much effort on your shitpost and people reply seriously.

>>59959842
I've seen more ridiculous genuine posts desu

>>59959842
>any argument refuting me is "retarded"
Things like these is why I suspect people is paid for shilling

>>59959867
Who are you quoting?

To the net OP, stop forgetting the title and add the /fglt/ tag

>>59959756
Unix and unix based is traditionally multiuser I guess that feature stuck around for convenience
ConsoleKit is pretty much outdated by now I guess and logind is more actively developed thanks to systemd

>>59959756
I don't think you understand how simple a single user system has to be.

>>59959924
And don't forget about PAM, all the logind marketing forgets PAM is the best alternative anyway

>>59959924
>Unix
what are you referring to?

>>59959943
I don't think you understand my post.

A private pc that's used by a single person has no use for complex multiseat software.

>>59959986
Yes. It does. You don't want a poorly designed browser allowing some retard JS to modify your banking software.

Also, making a system that can be easily swapped between multi user and single user is harder than simply making it multi user.

>>59959986
there's good reason to have non root users that have specific access... even if they're not real people

>>59960018
>>59960022
Do you guys not know what ConsoleKit is?

>>59960064
Do you?

>>59960124
It's seat management.
Not user management or access control, which is what you've been going about.

New thread:
>>59960182
>>59960182
>>59960182

>>59960166
But are you defending CK? Because there are better alternatives for what you claim CK does

>>59959902
You

>>59960203
I thought I already clarified enough.
But evidently not, so I give up.

You win. I'm retarded.