/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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First for smash capitalism!

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h-hey.

I can't decide on a distro.
What would I lose choosing Manjaro over Arch?
Would updates be delayed over when Arch gets them? No as many packages? Anything like that?

Is there like an easy guide on how to quickly get Arch up to how Manjaro is, like step by step and up to date on what you need for all the basic normie desktop stuff? And I don't know, a better installer?
Or would I just not miss out on anything using Manjaro?

>>59873487

You can check the arch wiki for that guide you're asking for.

Manjaro AFAIK does hold the updates for a little, but it should be a matter of a few days if it does really work like that.

desu who cares in getting something a week sooner or later; 99% of things you won't directly notice anyway

>>59873487
This should be in the sticky:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zpgQpdy_fI

>>59873585
Experimenting with distros is time consuming when you're using it as your primary desktop.

>>59873542
Then what's the downside to using Manjaro over Arch?

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>>59873487
Manjaro updates average about 2 weeks behind Arch for most packages and the user experience is the same minus initial configuration. If you want to run plain Arch without the extra testing you can use the arch-anywhere installer or Antergos. I ran Arch for a long time it's not a fragile as people meme so don't worry about it but in the long run Manjaro will probably save you from a breakage of some kind down the road because of the release model. And if you want, you can use the Manjaro unstable repos which are synced with Arch and be just as up to date and if you have problems revert back to stable.

>>59873676

I'd had to google to give you a complete answer, but apart from the install method there shouldn't be much.

Arch linux forces you into a netinstall, whereas a distro like manjaro eases the process and maybe has some kind of *forced* desktop environment installation (maybe they install KDE? maybe they give you some choices but defaults to KDE?).

desu the *up to date packages* is kind of a meme

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>>59873676
>Then what's the downside to using Manjaro over Arch?
You will be abused on the internet by Arch fanboys

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>>59873779
Okay I did some more reading.
How is Antergos even a different distro? It seems like it just has a better installer and rename's Arch.

>Despite being Arch-based, Manjaro uses its own repository and holds back Arch's packages for a testing period
Hm.. but if I change to unstable, it'd use Arch repos or something?

I guess where I'm at I... want hand holding pretty comfy desktop experience to start with, but I don't want to be held back by it.
I have plenty of experience with Debian servers, know how to use Linux through a terminal, and command line is comfy for me, but I don't necessarily want my desktop experience like that.

I was considering Debian unstable for desktop as well, as that'd be more familiar, but I was getting the impression from people that customizing it to the degree you would with Arch could likely lead to instability and updates breaking.

>>59873814
But when I google image search "Arch Linux", I see a bunch of people's desktops with anime backgrounds. Isn't this a big downside?

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>>59873899
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

So, I'm having a problem right now regarding lightdm installation I follow the installation guide exactly the same in the wiki. I also installed lightdm gtk greeter theme. I did enabled lightdm.service successfully and when I start lightdm.service, It just show blank screen. I already did the blank screen fix based on the wiki. but nothing happens.

here is what the systemctl status gave to me: Apr 13 23:29:10 hajim lightdm[450]: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

can anybody look into this matter? as I am a newbie.

>>59873899

you can go with debian testing (instead of unstable) and there isn't a single thing holding you back from having a light, customizable, start

during the installation you simply select no desktop environment and start apt-ing what you want to use or just stick with one of the options

debian testing has been frozen for a few months, though; if you don't care about the release cycle there shouldn't be any issue

>>59873962
I'm terribly sorry for interjecting another moment, but what I just told you is GNU/Linux is, in fact, just Linux, or as I've just now taken to calling it, Just Linux. Linux apparently does happen to be a whole operating system unto itself and comprises a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Most computer users who run the entire Linux operating system every day already realize it. Through a peculiar turn of events, I was misled into calling the system "GNU/Linux", and until now, I was unaware that it is basically the Linux system, developed by the Linux project.

There really isn't a GNU/Linux, and I really wasn't using it; it is an extraneous misrepresentation of the system that's being used. Linux is the operating system: the entire system made useful by its included corelibs, shell utilities, and other vital system components. The kernel is already an integral part of the Linux operating system, never confined useless by itself; it functions coherently within the context of the complete Linux operating system. Linux is never used in combination with GNU accessories: the whole system is basically Linux without any GNU added, or Just Linux. All the so-called "GNU/Linux" distributions are really distributions of Linux.

>>59874007
Linux is not POSIX certified

>>59874006
>40 peers
>4.44 MB/s
thats some slow networking

>>59874021
GNU isn't either

>>59874050
GNU+Linux is

>>59873984
Well I just need 4.10 kernel at minimum, 'cause Ryzen.

There any reason why I wouldn't start with a desktop environment, then replace its desktop with KDE from there?

But umm. I really hate when I need a new thing and it's not in the repo. It doesn't seem like Debian testing/unstable is really that bleeding edge with my past experience, is it? Compared to Arch?

Can someone help me? Im using ubuntu and have alsamixer and pulseaudio installed. Every time I reboot the computer, 'Headphone' in alsamixer is set to 0. So whenever I reboot, the sound mutes itself again. I need then to manually set the sound to my liking(pretty annoying).
Ive tried:

alsactl store in terminal
disabling automute in alsamixer
Uninstalling pulseaudio
Running a script on startup:
script.conf

amixer set 'Headphone' 100%

In etc/init

>>59873899
>Hm.. but if I change to unstable, it'd use Arch repos or something?
Not Arch's repos but Manjaro's own repo that they sync with Arch stable.

>>59874129
Why are you messing with alsa when you have pulse installed? Install pavucontrol.

>>59873984
>>59873899
Debian (stretch at least) is a buggy mess. I switched to it from Arch thinking that I was going to get similar package freshness with split packages and it was a disaster. They like to patch everything just because they can evidently. The mostly vanilla packages from Arch are tons better.

Arch is a stepping stone.

>>59874094
>But umm. I really hate when I need a new thing and it's not in the repo
You won't have that problem with an Arch based distribution since you will have the Arch User Repo.

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>>59874226
Yeah... I've had pretty bad experience with Stretch.
But I hear Arch can break a lot too and "don't update".

Void looks super promising, but immature... I feel pretty lost still.

>>59874267
>You won't have that problem with an Arch based distribution since you will have the Arch User Repo.
Yes, that is appealing to me.
And why I'm shying from Void.

But I mean I could add "user repos" to Debian, too. It just often created problems in the future.

>>59874240
>Arch is a stepping stone.
toward what?

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Why doesn't someone fork systemd into something that is only an init system and more moduar?

>>59874289
>>Arch is a stepping stone.
>toward what?
An Arch based distribution

>>59874322
because anyone capable of doing that is most likely fully aware it will never catch on nor have the force behind it to replace the original one resulting in a little to no impact on the linux ecosystem and therefore a massive waste of time and effort that could be put into something more useful.

there are alternatives to systemd.
noone uses them.

Devuan is now 1.0 RC, it's almost ready for prime time. Also, I think that by june debian stretch will be released.

So I just put in a second graphics card to hook up a third monitor, and I got to experience the wonderful world of having more than one X screen, and being unable to move windows between that monitor and others, among other things. Apparently, it's impossible to have one X screen span monitors that are connected to different cards.

Is Wayland going to fix this shit? Because up until now I've been pretty ambivalent about all of Wayland's claimed benefits, but if it improves multi-monitor then I'm getting on the train.

>>59874061
No it's not. POSIX certification is a costly process not reasonable to free projects.

>>59873585

That guy is one of the most obnoxious person I have ever seen post videos.

>>59874226

Just because you messed your installation doesn't mean something is unstable. If it happens something didn't work out for you but it actually did for others maybe you should think twice about the issue and where did it stem from.

>>59874094

If you start with an already set up DE installation you're fixed to what that installation medium provided to you. In the case of debian, I'm not sure which packages it does install, since you have several options available (like desktop-environment-core vs desktop-environment-full).

I'm not sure which kernel does debian testing have right now because of the frozen state. IIRC I used to have the important updates a week later or so, not sure there but it seemed *soon*. Not that I care most of the times anyway. I'm going to boot up to debian and check.

I don't mind installing from source every once in a while. AUR has many packages available, but it's still the Arch User Repository, not the official one (not like it matters in the end for an average desktop usage desu).

>>59873676

The downside is that it's a useless downstream distribution.

You don't even know what makes up a distribution. Instead of informing yourself about the few things that do and then forming an opinion about it yourself, you want to be spoonfed "the best" distribution out there. Invest some time (30 seconds) or effort asking the right questions and you'll get answers.

>>59873979

Which distribution? What hardware? Did you install the video drivers? Because LightDM wouldn't start on me without installing drivers (modesetting one didn't work). Did you install X?

>>59874129

This >>59874190.
Undo all the changes you did. Reinstall Pulseaudio. Install the "glue" package your distribution should ship to make Pulseaudio work flawlessly with ALSA (called pulseaudio-alsa on Arch, no idea about yours).
Then delete all the Pulseaudio configs in your home directory. Do not mess with ALSA directly then.

>>59874094
>>59874542

debian stretch is frozen in 4.9

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch
> 2016-08-13: Stretch kernel will be Linux 4.9 LTS

if you need 4.10 you can either install a different distro or stick with testing and wait for the new release

Actually its called systemd-linux.service. Get with the times nerds.

>>59874322

Because systemd is modular and it has an init system component.

>>59874390

that's a fairly niche use case outside of hooking up a dozen monitors

but on a serious note I'm pretty sure xinerama is what you're looking for

>>59874606
it's*
, nerds*

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Hey /g/, what's the best simple and modular init system for daily use?

>>59874542
>If you start with an already set up DE installation you're fixed to what that installation medium provided to you
Wait really?
I can't switch between Cinnamon, XFC, KDE after it's set up?

So if I want Arch with KDE, I need to install Arch CLI only, then get the KDE packages?

>>59874604
Alright, thanks.

>>59874650
runit? Well, not that modular since you can only use logrotate.

>>59874604
Or just install 4.10 yourself

How useable is Debian GNU/kFreeBSD?
Anyone with experiences?

>>59874542
>Just because you messed your installation doesn't mean something is unstable.
It was just a net install of Xfce. There was nothing I could have possibly fucked up.
All I did was install Chromium and tweak Xfce panels, that's it. It froze within the first 5 minutes when I was tweaking panels. The clock in the panel would crash if I tried to change the format. And Chromium, They disabled the use of extensions except the 3 bullshit ones they shipped it with. I fixed it but still. Overall everything is pointlessly flavored and patched. Arch is proof that vanilla packages can work together fine.

Debian is garbage.

Can a 32 bit distro burn an ISO for a 64 bit OS?

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>>59874555
Asshurt archfag beta(tester) confirmed

>>59874704

Yes.

>>59874700
>program doesn't work
>blame distro
epic

>>59874612
>Because systemd is modular and it has an init system component.
It's modular to the point that you need 42 out of 69 binaries. Which isn't even modular by definition. By a simple definition maybe but not the full one.

is modular a meme?

>>59874665

didn't mean that; there are multiple ways of installing a DE, just the core-utils or the full blown package with all the stuff. I don't know which one chooses the installer. You can uninstall, reinstall and install whatever you like afterwards

>>59874679

Well, you obviously can, but it's a desktop installation with many packages, not a small server or a small embedded box. It doesn't seem reasonable to me; you need to be aware of multiple possible broken dependencies and it's a tedious process for someone that doesn't want to bother with it.

literally

>But umm. I really hate when I need a new thing and it's not in the repo


>>59874700
>If it happens something didn't work out for you but it actually did for others maybe you should think twice about the issue and where did it stem from.

>>59874728

Can your brain come up with any actual thoughts instead of the same stock response and an image? Obviously not, because otherwise you would have understood the tone of my post.
A normal and not retarded person would understand that downstream distributions serve no purpose. Arch isn't the only distribution which has idiotic downstream leeches. I suggest you familiarize yourself with some basic knowledge about the topic you're posting about.

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>>59874771
Go sniff a floppy dick

>I am a normal and not retarded person
lmao then why are you on 4chan of all places arguing with strangers about your beloved distribution?

>>59874801

I see you have realized that you have no real argument and are resorting to more assumptions.
Why do you assume I love Arch or even use it? It doesn't change anything. You seem to be obsessed with Arch or Manjaro, because you only point out my posts where I call Manjaro retarded. It is retarded.
I don't see you making such a baseless and wrong fuss when I call Korora, Bunsenlabs or Peppermint Os retarded. I suggest your kill yourself or go to the Manjaro forums if you need a hugbox.

Why do archfags suffer from dangerous levels of faggoyry?

Is there a way to create a .desktop file, and make so that this desktop shortcut has no name at all, not even the path? I want only the icons to appear on the desktop, nothing much else.

>>59874734
I thought 32 bit couldn't read 64 bit files. Or was it just for launching executables.

>>59874893
can run 64 bit binaries, has nothing to do with the data

>>59874869
give it a newline character \n or tab character \t as a name or something

>>59874869

I assume you want it because it looks better. In that case, you have the wrong approach. Look if there's an option for the desktop icon program you use to hide the names. Don't mess with the .desktop files, mess with the program displaying them.

>>59874909
I was told you cannot run a 64 bit program on a 32 bit OS

>>59874765
Oh you mean a DE (desktop environment..?) with the installer instead of CLI installer. And the DE for the installer can be different than what the OS actually uses.

>>59874869
Stop replying to trolls stupid fuck you're ruining these threads

>>59874934
Not you at >>59874848

>>59874923
yeah I meant can't, sorry.

you can manipulate any data you can read/write, has nothing to do with the OS bit version

>>59874962
Okay, I can copy, move, burn, etc 64 bit stuff on a 32 bit OS I just can't run it. Got it.

I have a problem that is driving me nuts.

I installed Fedora on my MacBook pro, and whenever I put it to sleep or hibernate, it immediately wakes up.

Where do I start in troubleshooting? I can't ever take my computer around in my backpack because it will run warm (closing the lid only causes it to sleep and then imediately rewake), so I am sort of desperate.

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>>59874934
Are you schizophrenic?
>>59874921
I dont think thats a problem since I create the desktop files myself. Im running the latest version of LXDE and I didnt find an option for that.
>>59874920
I had forgotten about this. This worked. Have some gold

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>>59874852
>Why do archfags suffer from dangerous levels of faggoyry?
anime.

Any cutie trap arch users post pics, btw.

>>59875033
Are you by chance using the Transmission torrent client?

I had the same problem back in the day when I was using it and it also was driving me nuts. Transmission has an option to "prevent the machine from going to sleep or hibernating".

Is kali linux a useful distro for basic compiling on top of using it to test exploits on my main machine?

I plan on running it from a netbook to test my houses net security.

>>59875097
kali is too mainstream, use blackarch

>>59875097
kali linux is a distribution supposed to be used as a livecd

>>59875129
You mean bootable usb.

>>59874933

it's starting to get a little messy, let me rewrite what I was trying to say

> There any reason why I wouldn't start with a desktop environment, then replace its desktop with KDE from there?

tl;dr not really, if you want a certain desktop environment just go with it

If you're running a random distro you often have at least two choices to install a desktop environment. A "core" package that only has the bare minimum to run the desktop environment and a "full-desktop" package, that also has a bunch of extra apps and services apart from that minimum installation. The installation medium of *random distro* might use one or another. You can remove or install whatever you like afterwards, anyway. You can't remove the core apps and services of the desktop environment, even though you can install alternatives and use them instead of the "official" one. You can use nautilus (gnome) instead of dolphin (kde) in KDE. Or firefox instead of konqueror (kde).

>>59875097
It's literally debian (unstable), but with its own repository and a lot of extra tools.
You can use it like you want. You just have to be root to use the extra tools.
Use the liveCD in a virtualbox, so you have an amnesiac kali in your daily kali.

>>59875033
/proc/acpi/wakeup

should tell you what devices can cause wakeup

otherwise, check journalctl after it happens, something should be there

GCC needs to be rewritten from scratch. It's so painfully bloated it's not even funny

>>59875166
who gives a shit.
it's the performance of the produced binaries that count.

how can clang boys even compete

>>59875180
GCC lards ladies and gentlemen

>>59875151
Hm. That makes it sound like I can't use GTK with KDE. Why is that? Can't you use GTK on top of windows shit in Windows?

>>59875216
well you can but you'll have a bunch of excess dependencies for only a few programs and basically all gtk programs have either a qt build or an equivalent program

>>59875060
That's sort of hilarious, but no I'm not using it.

>>59875164
Will try it out and report back.

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>>59875216

GTK is a toolkit for creating GUI applications. KDE is based on Qt and I guess it renders better Qt based than GTK apps, but don't quote me on that because I don't have any solid idea about this.

Both gnome and KDE work alright with wx, qt, gtk and what not, AFAIK. You have multiple tools to work the theming of gtk/qt, I remember using lxappearance or something like that when I was using i3.

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>>59875234
Excess dependencies is not a problem unless you're trying to run on a 512mb of RAM 1ghz machine, no?
Like Windows is full of so many excess dependencies.

>>59875342
Alright ,thanks.
You guys have been way more helpful than I expected.

>>59875164
I now tried hibernating, and it immediately woke up. Running journalctl -n I get

Apr 13 20:28:54 localhost.localdomain audit[4930]: USER_AUTH pid=4930 uid=1000 auid=1000 ses=2 s
Apr 13 20:28:54 localhost.localdomain kwin_x11[1482]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow),
Apr 13 20:28:54 localhost.localdomain kwin_x11[1482]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow),
Apr 13 20:28:55 localhost.localdomain wpa_supplicant[1026]: wlp3s0: Trying to associate with SSI
Apr 13 20:28:55 localhost.localdomain NetworkManager[947]: <info> [1492108135.4174] device (wlp

(sorry that some of it got clipped out)

In my /proc/acpi/wakeup file I have

Device S-state Status Sysfs node
PEG0 S3 *disabled
EC S4 *disabled platform:PNP0C09:00
HDEF S3 *disabled pci:0000:00:1b.0
RP01 S3 *disabled pci:0000:00:1c.0
RP02 S3 *disabled pci:0000:00:1c.1
RP03 S3 *disabled pci:0000:00:1c.2
ARPT S4 *enabled pci:0000:03:00.0
RP05 S3 *disabled pci:0000:00:1c.4
RP06 S3 *disabled pci:0000:00:1c.5
SPIT S3 *disabled
XHC1 S3 *enabled pci:0000:00:14.0
ADP1 S4 *disabled platform:ACPI0003:00
LID0 S4 *enabled platform:PNP0C0D:00

I don't know what to make of this.

>>59875446
the only other issue is you'll have to manually tweak the appearance to match the rest of your theming if you're aestheticfag

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>59875497
cowsay

>>59875529
>not modding cowsay to darkwingduck
pleb
also fortune

>>59875497
curl wttr.in/hereyouputyourplace?lang=hereyouputyourlanguage
>so you have the weather
fuck
>you have to install thefuck but it's cool and usefull sometimes

>>59875452
XHC1 is a USB hub, and it's allowed to wake your pc

echo XHC1 > /proc/acpi/wakeup

>>59875497
:(){ :|: & };:

>be a memer, fuck about with random distros, have fun
>need a 32-bit machine quickly for some uni work
>download debian netinst i386 and get it going in vbox
>literally click "next" a bunch of times and wait for some progress bars to complete

Are these the joys of well-made automatic installers, when you don't care enough to manually fine-tune your system? I never knew

>>59875632
the only distributions that don't feature this are either those where it wouldn't make sense or those who take autistic proud in making things complicated

Thinking of switching to Openbox but worried about losing hardware compositing, what do?

>>59875701
compton?

>>59875656
Normally I spend a bunch of time configuring things in the installer even when there is one, so it usually takes at least half an hour. This time it took about 5 minutes, of which at least 4:30 were just waiting.

That said, I take back some of what I said:
>select all sane options, except no DE because all I need is to use a CLI tool
>boot into my new machine, login as the user created during install
>make: command not found
>fair enough
>sudo apt-get install make
>sudo: command not found
Why do they do this? Like, literally, what is the rationale behind that? Or is it just my particular system being somehow autistic? Literally the only thing I changed from default was unselect all DEs.

>>59875713
Is it okay with Openbox? Someone told me it was broken

>>59875719
>If you do not specify a password for the root user this account will be disabled but the sudo package will be installed later to enable administrative tasks to be carried out on the new system. -- from debian-installer/manual/en/howto/installation-howto.xml

>>59875719
If instead of clicking "next" like a drooling retard actually read what is put to you on the screen you'd know that during the user profile setup youre asked for root password.

Leaving root password blank disables the root account and installs sudo and puts your account as a sudoer.

>>59875865
>>59875863
So when installing you have to choose to either have the root account disabled, or not have sudo installed by default?

Alright, at least it's AN explanation.

>>59875950
Youre acting like installing sudo was a massive fucking issue

>>59875983
No but it was annoying

I just don't see the point of not having it. It's not like the whole thing is geared towards a minimal install anyway.

>>59876011
Security reasons.
sudo is a security flaw and always have been, but it's trading convenience for security.

>>59875797
it seems to work fine from me simply running it. there's transparency and whatnot

Tried asking the vidya boards and no one seems to know, so trying /g/.
How do I transfer PS2 games to/from GNU slash Linux to a PS2+HDD?

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>>59875797
Works fine here.

>>59876094
>file.png

>>59876076

>>59876094
Looks pretty nice, would you mind sharing your config? I wanted a basic little menu set up so I can keep track of what I have got open
>>59876123
What should he have called it?

>>59876082
I used FTP from what I remember. I ran a homebrew FTP server on the PS2 and just transferred files over the network. That was over 10 years ago tho.

Just google it, really. There's gotta be a tutorial somewhere.

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>>59876123
>take screenshot
>don't save, copy to clipboard
>ctrl + v in the comment field
>file.png
That's just how it works my nig

>>59876154
>Looks pretty nice, would you mind sharing your config? I wanted a basic little menu set up so I can keep track of what I have got open
Kind of vague. You want the tint2(bar) config or something else?

>>59876196
Whatever you feel like sharing, kind anon. I haven't really done much config of Openbox so more would be better than less. Any ideas to make it look decent would be great. I just want to replace Unity 7 after the pretty crappy news that they were dropping it. It always worked well for me, didn't even use much RAM.

>>59875623
>friendly thread

>>59876513
Not an argument

>>59874650
Systemd

My laptop mic on linux is very low but on windows works normally, what is problem anons?

>volume is on max

>>59876543
Not an argument

>>59876267
>I haven't really done much config of Openbox so more would be better than less. Any ideas to make it look decent would be great.
Okay then. I'll recommend some stuff that doesn't involve digging into text files then.

>bar
If you decide to use tint2 as a bar, grab tint2conf as well. It comes with 30 bar presets you can choose from and you can also edit them from the same program so you don't have to wrap your head around doing it all in an unfamiliar config file.

>openbox
Grab obconf if you want a GUI to configure it with and grab lxappearance, it will allow you to tweak a couple of things that obconf won't. You can get obmenu for a GUI way to edit the right click menu.

>>59876554
linux

>>59876554
mic boost you dum-dum

>>59876597
tint2 is a panel

>>59876672
GNU with Linux installed*

>>59876267
>>59876597
Forgot something kind of important

To run things at startup create a txt file called autostart at /home/anon/.config/openbox/autostart
openbox looks for it when it starts, if it exists it will run it, if not it just moves on

Here is an example that sets the wallpaper with feh, and starts tint2 and compton. Notice the &s

feh --bg-scale ~/Pictures/wallpapers/wallpaper.png &

tint2 &

compton &

Also you can use compton-conf for a GUI to configure compton with instead of hacking into the conf file yourself.

>>59876695
>tint2 is a panel
tint2 is a panel/taskBAR

>>59876867
feh doesn't need to be backgrounded, also sh ~/.fehbg is enough

>>59875623
woah, this is cool, I didn't know my terminal could do that!

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How to I make the makefile in the top right work? Really struggling to understand the format of stuff. + What happens if there's a cpp and no h?

Trying to put my skills to the test with SDL, and this is my first time both writing a game from complete scratch and on Linux, so I'm taking it slow.

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>>59875623
How does it do that?

>>59876958
You don't need to run two separate instances of Emacs.

C-x 2 to make a second buffer window
C-x o to switch between windows
C-x 0 to remove the window you have currently focused
C-x 1 to remove all buffer windows but the one you're currently pointed to

>>59876958
oh you poor thing you've lost you're .h :(

>>59876958
GNU/Linux*

>>59877015
>screenshot.png

>>59877061
But main currently doesn't need a .h? And if it did would this then work?

>>59877060
Ah yeah, thanks! I only put it there so I could show multiple things on one screenshot, I guess I could've made a better effort though.

>>59877114
Got it

thanks all :)

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>>59877142
What does it mean?

>>59874390
xinerma
>wayland
KEK

i have computer with uefi that doesnt let system boot from micro sd slot. how would i go about running a linux system of sd card with minimal presence on main internal drive?

>>59877582
GNU/Linux*

>>59877597
GNU+Linux*

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>>59877597
>>59877621
"linux system" is a broad term that includes any tools inside the definition.
GNU+Linux = A linux system

>>59877669
Linux is just a kernel.

Cant seem to copy paste in VM's using virtualbox. Guest addons are enabled as well as copy paste

>>59877582

wget https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.10.10.tar.xz
tar xvf linux-4.10.10.tar.xz
echo "CONFIG_EFI=y\nCONFIG_EFI_STUB=y" >> .config
make
mount /dev/sda1 /boot
cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/gnulinux.efi
efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -p 1 -L "i'm too retarded to use linux" -l "\gnulinux.efi"

>>59877669
GNO. GNU+Linux = A GNU system

>>59877716
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mis take in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

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>>59877716
i was told this place will be friendly

>>59877764
what up with all these pictures with that thin white line at the bottom that recently appear everywhere on the web?

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>>59877787
could be tracking bytes

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>>59877844

>>59877844
jesus christ

How do I get off of Ubuntu LTS from terminal? I don't have that software center stuff anymore. Apparently I need to do that before I can do-release-upgrade to 17.

>>59877844
>that perfect white teeth

>>59878029
Never mind I found it.

Edit etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change to prompt=normal

I've been messing around a bit now, sorry for not thanking you guys who helped me in troubleshooting my computer always waking up, but it still isn't working properly.

I think the computer will wake up as long as the lid is open.

If I close the lid, the laptop goes to sleep and does not rewake.

If I put it into sleep mode through menus, it goes to sleep then rewakes immediately.

Same for manually hibernating, except hibernating causes the computer to reboot (?!?)

I guess I could disable lid from waking up the computer, but that is actually something I want. I just want it to be the lid action that wakes my computer, not the lid position in general.

Is it likely that I am wrong, or might my conclusions be correct?

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>>59878571
>8 sentences
>13 lines
What kind of school did you go to?

>>59876867
Thanks anon

>>59878991
>barely 1 sentence
>4 lines

>>59878571
Why do you want to hibernate or sleep? Have it lock and turn off the screen and call it a day.

>>59879027
If you don't understand how it's not the same thing you need to leave.

>torrented over campus's wifi
>after a while they blacklisted device
>reinstalled linux distro
>device got re-blacklisted
>my windows partition works fine
>tried mac address spoofing but nada
>It was connected b/c I could ping google's dns server.
>device works fine over different wifi connections

I am totally at a loss for what they are tracking it with.

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>>59878571
>>59878991
I just learned this a couple of days ago when I was writing my first reddit post. Then I found out about this place, it's much better desu senpai.

>>59878571
Why do you space your posts like that, redditor?

>>59879091
Wrong thread

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>>59879092
"desu senpai"
What the fuck I didn't write that

>>59879131
Lurk more, stupid newfag.

On Arch, how do I remove a group without removing a specific package? I'm trying to uninstall GNOME but pacman is complaining about how it can't remove adwaita. How do I get around this?

>>59879092
You really made an effort with this post, didn't you.

This aint me btw, who wanted to know about hibernation.

>>59879155
Don't feed him.

>>59879102
I hate reading blocks of text, compared to reading bulletpoints. I also tend to ramble, so instead of writing 8 paragraphs, I made 8 lines to divide up all the bits of info.

>Torvalds will die in your lifetime

>There will be a massive power vacuum of corporations, governments, and SJWs trying to get "their guy" in charge

>>59879250
>Torvalds
who?

Thanks guys.
This thread has been more helpful for me than Linux related IRC channels.

Those channels are full of the sort of people that Linus hates.

>>59879289
>Linus
who?

>>59873414
My ex just text me happy birthday, and I do not want to initiate a conversation. What's the most polite way to tell her to fuck off and don't embarrass me?

>>59879604
texted*

>>59879604
Tell her to install Gentoo

>>59879604
Happy birthday!

>>59879626
Thanks :)

i have a hdmi display connected to my gtx1060 and a 17" VGA monitor connected to the only VGA port my PC has - the on-motherboard VGA out

both work automatically, but act as one display. they both show the same exact thing, mouse moving around and all, at the same resolution. if i use the "nvidia xserver settings" application and change the resolution, for example, it changes the resolution on BOTH monitors. because they're the same display basically, they are a mirror of each other.

but what i WANT is for the HDMI display to be a second display, not a mirror of one display i already have

i've never run into this before. usually the display either works, or it doesn't. i can't figure out how to make it operate as a second monitor rather than mirror of one monitor. is it impossible since they aren't connected to the same graphics device? the HDMI display is connected to my gtx1060, the VGA monitor into my motherboard.

this is mint 18 xfce if it matters. if i run xrandr, i can see both devices. HDMI-0 is my HDMI display in the gtx1060, DP-1-2 is my VGA monitor

Has anyone tried Devuan? Do you think it could be used as a main operating system yet?

>>59879091
>tried mac address spoofing but nada
I had the same issue at my old school. I used 'macchanger', make sure you're setting the right device. Changing eth0 or en0ps wont make a difference if you're using wifi.

>>59880041
Devuan is garbage don't use it.
>Debian still officially supports sysv
>after two years, devuan still isn't out of beta
Developers are clearly retards. If you want to escape systemd, use a distro with a modern init system like openrc or runit instead of shitty init scripts.

>>59880226
>escape systemd
what is wrong with systemd?

>>59880307
Not everyone wants to use one piece of software. Alternatives are good.

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How do I upgrade from GNOME 3.22 to GNOME 3.24 on Ubuntu 17.04? My image came with GNOME 3.22 for some reason

>>59880328
i dont understand this argument, how is it systemd related?

>>59880343
systemd was designed to be irreplaceable.

>>59880358
but it is replaceble? see runit or openrc?

>>59880307
it's a meme, it's fine

>>59880372
systemd comes with a buch of extra features that add dependencies on systemd to applications that would otherwise run fine without. logind comes as an example, running recent GNOME without systemd is becoming harder and harder.

>>59880394
systemd doesnt add dependencies to applications; applications add dependecies on systemd

>>59880407
this
>>59880394
stop parroting memes

Is there an easy way to set up a work and a private [Spoilers] porn [/Spoilers] user account without having to set up everything twice? Can I share essential configs somehow?

>>59880407
>>59880422
the systemd developers are the ones forcing dependencies on systemd
https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/428
>t. systemd developer

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>It's another systemd episode

>>59880434
>trying to use spoiler on /g/

>>59880450
It's a meme you dip. Answer my question.

>>59880435
>forcing
the developer of a program xy decides if he wants to depend on systemd - the developers of systemd may make requests, but it's not their decision, it's the decision of the developers of program xy

wake up senpai, you got meme'd

>>59880484
>t. lennart poettering

>>59880407
this

>>59880407
>consistently edges developers away from portability to systemd-specific functionality
>blames on app developer

>spend 2 years using Gentoo
>ready to return to Slackware with new knowledge
SystemD better not have bombed the shit outta Slack while I was gone!

>>59880548
I'm using GNOME with Wayland with Pulseaudio on Arch and everything works fantastic.

Does this upset you?

>>59880604
>pulseaudio
>works
pulseaudio never worked for me, it always spewed out errors on startup, just like anything else lennart poettering makes

>>59880613
Sound in Linux never worked until pulseaudio came in

>>59880624
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mis take in your post. Luckily, the users of GNU/Linux are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have referred to the GNU/Linux system as "Linux", but Linux is just a part of the system! Whoops! Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux. You should always remember to say or write "GNU/Linux", unless you are referring to the kernel "Linux" alone!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to your new operating system!

>>59880636
Linux*

>>59880636
I know it's GNU/Linux, I'm basically too lazy

>>59880636
>doesn't know what GNU and Linux do
top kek

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>>59880636
Fuck off faggot

>>59880636
>>59880653
You can use alsa/pulse without GNU.

>>59880657
I've rewritten most of GNU coreutils in D. It was a nice practice to sharpen my skills. I intend to finish it all

>>59880674
not pulseaudio, it needs GNU extensions

>>59880686
>D
that must have been alot of sperm

>>59880674
You can use Firefox without Windows.

>>59880710
>tfw shaming myself for finding this funny, kek

>>59880713
You can use post on 4chan without being an adult.

>>59879169
sudo pacman -Rdd

>>59880307
It's doesn't follow Unix philosophy and it uses a lot of memory. I might be being a little nit picky for not wanting to use it, if there are alternatives available i don't see a reason not to use them.

I'm looking for a terminal emulator that isn't total garbage. By this I mean that it should be customizable without having 10 programs open to be able to pick colors and fonts manually before moving them into a config file and also multiplexing the terminal windows.

Most importantly, however, it needs sgr support. To my surprise, it appears only xterm supports it. lxterm, terminator, sakura, st, urxvt, mate-terminal -- doesn't matter, none appear to support it. However, xterm's customization is dreadful and its feature set plain sucks.

>>59874842
Flip Debian and Fedora and this is very accurate.

>>59880927
>It's doesn't follow Unix philosophy
so doesn't linux

>>59880226
officially as in you have to manually patch 90% of the software in the repos, sure.

>>59880939
whats sgr?

>>59880307
It's a buggy piece of garbage chuckfull of backdoor-size security flaws, and everytime yet another one is found, the devs decide to CLOSE-WONTFIX it and call it a feature. Do you enjoy your entire system going down at random because the piece of software that stands at the parent of every other software on the system is one huge bug disguised as software? Then systemdick is for you.

>>59880964
google it, fag.

>>59880967
if it is so bad, then why all majpr distros switched to it?

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>>59880927

>>59880979
>google
found the cuck

>>59880941
>he ended up on the beta-test distro
But why?

>>59880980
They were paid or threatened for it. For example, none of them have ever accepted the impossible challenge of providing a reason for accepting it. The best response we ever got was that "the men in the linux community who hate women the most" are against systemd. Yes, this is a direct quote.

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>>59881006
you dropped something

>>59880948
There isn't really a good alternative to Linux except for free BSD, but i don't like the license.

>>59880939
>sgr
escapes sequences?

>>59881037
your plain stupid anon

>>59881060
*you're

>>59881033
>nothing to see bad goy
>they don't need a reason to abandon their stated mission that they've maintained for decades
>bad goy, debian switching to unstable crapware, completely breaking systems for months on end and still trying to force said crapware is totally normal and has totally happened before!
>the fact that important debian devs defected over this is totally usual. Nothing to see here.
>what? the only arguments for systemd are that if you don't like it, you're a misogynist? We all know it's true though, shitlord!
>crash on empty string? who tests for empty string inputs bad goy? that's fuzz test territory! CLOSED WONTFIX!

>>59881048
no

>>59881085
yes

>>59881088
I see you're an expert on using your anus as a search engine.

>>59881098
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code#graphics

>>59881103
Is using a search engine really that hard for you?

>>59881118
your plain stupid anon

well, https://defectivebydesign.org/tim-berners-lee-receives-obedience-award

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post your best linux memes

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>>59881520

>>59881520
GNU/Linux*

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>>59881847
>meme
Please check the output of the commands in pic related and come back

>>59882148
1. it's a meme by the definition of the word
2. I actually meant to correct him

wtf

Im looking for a new project to tinker with. I want to use gentoo so i can use openrc,but i also want to use musl instead of gcc.My google foo is lacking and only finds a "musl-hardened" package/page for musl.

Is it that hard to just replace gcc with musl and then be on my way?

>>59882854
Musl is a C standard library implementation, GCC is a compiler.
What you're actually talking about replacing is glibc.

However, I think musl is supposed to be a drop-in replacement for glibc. Just backup your system, try installing it and just see what the hell happens.

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is there a distro without systemd and selinux that is simple and easy to use like ubuntu server?

>>59882854
install source mage

>>59882881
yes, it's called source mage
http://sourcemage.org/Intro

>>59882874
Would i not need to make symlinks that link musl?

Its not my main system, so im really up for anything

>using a downstream distro
KEK

>>59882894
is this a meme? if so gtfo bitch nigger!

>>59882942
it's mot a meme
it's a great distro

>>59882952
does dragora have selinux?

>>59882961
you can disable/enable it on any distro if you reconfigure and recompile the kernel

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>>59881520

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>>59882976
man fuck that... i am going to install bsd

>>59882986
it's easy, stop being such a pussy
any retard can uncheck selinux in an ncurses interface

>>59883013
the problem is that both systembbc and selincuck are they are deeply 'rooted' through the entire kernel and many modules honestly the linux kernel is glued together...

>>59883041
just install gentoo if you don't want systemd and a choice to disable selinux
or use arch+openrc, void, slackware, crux or sourcemage and recompile the kernel if needed

>deeply 'rooted' through the entire kernel and many modules honestly the linux kernel is glued together
consider educating yourself a bit on the matter at hand before you spout nonsense

>>59879832
you can't just set the resolution with xrandr then?

xrandr --output DP-1-2 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 60

>>59883041
why do you want to disable selinux anyway?
do you even know what it is?

>>59883096
fug i am dumbdumb lol! XD AYOOXD
>>59883123
i dont trust it

>>59883139
>i dont trust it
I'd say you're not the only one, considering the circumstances around it, hell NSA is in the name of the kernel features
you really think smarter and more autistic people haven't audited that code already?

>>59883206
why have it at all? i do not want it and i do not want to attempt to remove it...

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What's the best distro for my thinkpad?

>>59883218
Seriously need to ask? Gentoo.

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What's a free email service that lets me send plain text emails?

Tutanota can't.

>>59883215
>why have it at all
so you don't know what it is
it's pretty well documented, why not do a little research?

https://selinuxproject.org/page/Main_Page
>SELinux is a security enhancement to Linux which allows users and administrators more control over access control.

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/SELinux
>SELinux is a mandatory access control system which enables a more fine-grained mechanism where the security administrator defines what a user can do. Unlike the standard discretionary access control in place for Linux (where the end user can still decide for himself how his resources are accessed by others) a mandatory access control system is fully governed through a security policy. With SELinux, enforcement of the access controls is done by the Linux kernel, governed through a security policy that is loaded at start of the system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux
https://wiki.debian.org/SELinux
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SELinux

>>59883280
Cockli

>>59883215
be sure to take a good look at this article in particular, it's newb friendly
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/SELinux/Quick_introduction
>SELinux is an access control mechanism, supported through the Linux kernel, that works alongside the Linux regular access controls. But unlike the regular access controls, it is a mandatory access control system, ensuring that users cannot work around the rules set by the administrator. But before we get into the gritty details of SELinux, let's first see how the regular access controls on a Linux system work. Then, we continue with the SELinux features one by one, explaining most of the models supported by SELinux.

>>59883331
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Like I'm going to sign up for something so shit.

>>59883351
You're an idiot. cock.li is by far the best mail server for professional email addresses.

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>>59883373
.....

Updated mpv, now it has a dep error with libbluray,which didnt have installed previously,so i installed it, now it throws the same error despite it being in the system.What do

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>>59873962
>>59874007

I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, systemd/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, systemd-linuxd. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning systemd service made useful by the systemd unit files, service files and vital systemd daemons comprising a full OS as defined by systemd.

Many computer users run a modified version of the systemd every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of systemd which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the systemd, developed by the Redhat Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the systemd operating system: the whole system is basically systemd with Linux added, or systemd with systemd-linux.service enabled. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of systemd!

Yesterday I was asking for a lightweight linux version to run in Virtual Box. I had already tried Lubuntu and LXLE both failed because no pae and forcepae -- forcepae didn't help. An annon suggested puppy but the noPae version failed with "Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt". Any other Ideas or suggestions?

If you like systemV over systemD, you are seriously an idiot

>>59883550
>Many computer users run a modified version of the systemd every day, without realizing it.
>modified version of systemd
>modified systemd
kek
Not even pottering himself could create a modified version of systemd

Got a laptop to learn Linux, installed Debian with Xfce, booted it up, had a menu bar and all that(there was some popup the first boot, I chose default), turned it off, went to bed. Today, no menu. What happened and how do I fix it?

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>>59884202
Forgot this.

>>59883489
works for me (I assume you're on arch like me)

Hey guys what is wrong with my raspberry pi2...?
Whenever I let it sit connected and if it loses Ethernet connection it won't reconnect and I have to reboot it, what gives?

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>>59884205
>oversize icons and text for your 1366x760 desktop

>>59884323
>1366x760
>acer claims full hd 1080p

its fun when /g/ is retarded

>>59884323
...are you retarded? Did you read the post? Fresh install.

>>59880141
This.
>macchanger
>vpn
>tor + proxychains if possible
Even with a static IP, it works.

sup faggots, today my system crashed (frozen window, no keys, mouse, etc) so I just could hard reset and lost my very large uptime benis

now, where can I look what went wrong? dmesg doesn't show any errors, it's like everything just stoped working and went to holidays

>>59884705
kek, goodbye

>>59884705

>dmesg
It for the current session only, obviously. It gets cleared after every reboot.
Look into your system logs.

>>59884705
if the kernel really locked up, you wount find anything
check some logs at /var/log/ or run the based gnome-system-log program

>>59884705
remember these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key

>install manjaro
>everything just werks, as advertised
holy crackers

how to make a 64bit program run in wine

On a low-end laptop, does the distro really matter when trying to get the most out of the machine? I know the DE matters, but you can change that to a WM on any distro anyways, so would there be a difference between any of them when stripped of the UI?

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>>59884945
try the i3 and bspwm(!) editon, very nice pre-riced shit

>>59884954

Negligible, non-existent.

>>59884971
nah I like Xfce

should I upgrade kernel to 4.10?

>>59884979
not even the kernels?

>>59884988

Yes, there wil be a 0,0053% performance gain or loss between different kernels.

-> >>59885045

>>59884971
i3 is the real autist wm. really.. everything is done with keyboard shortcuts that only an autist can remember and simple things like moving a window cant be done with a mouse like you can in all good wms.

>>59874704
Not being mean, but this is just cute.

>>59879604
Happy Birthday Mr Shill!

Do the *buntu variants have telemetry and phone home, or is that just Ubuntu with Unity?

Example, if I installed the server image and GNOME on top would it still contain the telemetry?

>>59885306
None of them actually have telemetry. It's a meme. There's still no reason to use it instead of Debian though.

>>59879250
It would be best if he names his succesor himself

>>59879250
fuck, feels bad.
At least because it's GPL, if it does get controlled by complete retards we can just fork it.

>>59885523
it is already controlled by complete retards

>>59885338
Ubuntu Unity sends health reports to Canonical

How do i set keyboard layout in arch?
I need

en_US.utf8
sr_RS
sr_RS.utf8

this is what i get when i type locale -a and i need us, serbian latinic and serbian cyrillic letters

>>59885812
>>59885049

Never had this problem but I reinstalled Fedora and mkv files are choppy in mpv. mp4s are totally fine, for whatever reason. mpv has always just worked out of the box for me so this is weird.

>>59883280
>emacs

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>>59883373
its dank but gets raided too much to be trusted for anything important

>>59884323
xfce looks like shit with the default theme