/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Time to buy a xeon

How worth it is a 1500X over a 1400?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bhjBJV

this is my build . thoughts? (i have an ssd)
aiming for 1080p 60hz gaming

>>59844630
Double the L3 cache. 1400 is a good option if you're in a tight budget and it's the best you can afford. Otherwise the 1500X is a nice upgrade for very little extra money. It's not just a case like the 1600->1600X where you can just OC the former.

>>59844650
Get an aftermarket GPU and faster RAM but it looks good other than that

>>59844650
Looks good, but I'd try to squeeze at least 2400 RAM and an Hitachi/HGST hard drive (or skip it altogether and live off the SSD for a while) as the WD ones, especially from that era and storage size, are not the most reliable.

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>his motherboard isn't rotated by 90 degrees
lmao

>>59844630
Very worth it, IMO. The 1400 is lackluster.

1600 seems to be best overall choice though for a mix of gayman and productivity, but might be outside of tight budgets.

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>>59844630
The 1400 seems the most meh one. I wouldn't get it.
They should have just disabled SMT on them, priced them lower, clocked them higher. I literally don't see the point in them except to get people to spend $20 more for the 1500X.

1500X, 1600, 1600X all seem like good options, though. Just depends on needs and budget.
-1500X is nice if you can't afford the 7700 but don't want games hitching so much from not having enough threads or from other applications running in the background since it's going to have more CPU utilization free than a 4c/4t. Even one at much higher clocks.
-1600 is a nice cheap 6 core with a cooler that games will likely utilize better in the future. And even if they don't, it's like a 4c/8t with an i3 to spare for your other shit to not interrupt gaming. Good for dual monitors, letting Steam download and update while you play without slowing shit down, etc.
-1600X is not quite as good price-performance as an overclocked 1600, but it's still a better binned chip and not too expensive. And if you planned on getting a better cooler anyway, you may as well be getting this.

>>59845130
>They should have just disabled SMT on them, priced them lower, clocked them higher.
That's supposedly what the R3 line is going to be

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/tFW8dC
Anyone want to make any improvements to my build? I have a max budget of $1500. The things that I want to stay the same are the GPU, the CPU, the mobo, and the PSU.

>>59845180
I'd try to get at least a 250GB SSD and downsize the HDD to 2TB to make up for it. 120GB is too tight nowadays for Windows + games and/or dual booting (been there, done that), take into account some behemoths like Doom or WoW are around 50GB a pop and WoW for example is one of those games you absolutely want to be running on the SSD if you don't want minute-long loading screens.

>>59845160
I know.
I'm saying they should have just binned those 1400s down to R3s. They seem pretty garbage.
Or they should have just been cheaper. If they were $150 or less, that might make sense.
Sure you can overclock them to 3.8ghz to generally beat the i5-7400 with CPU utilization left over... but that's not exactly a high bar.

>>59844650
T W O C O O L

>>59845180
Are you aware of the problems that Nvidia GPUs are having on Ryzen right now? It's pretty fucked, and on tons of games.
If I were in your position, I'd just get that RX480 that's on sale for $190 right now and spend that savings on getting a 1TB SSD. You'd probably be thankful for doing that later down the line since upgrading GPU is more painless than upgrading SSD.
And 1080p? Meh.
Otherwise the other shit looks good.

Is there any reason to buy 1600x over 1600 ?

>>59845249
Alright, ill see what I can do. But from what Ive seen, this hard drive is enterprise grade, and is amazing. Plus if it fails, i will get full warranty.
>>59845251
No i was not aware of those compatibility problems. Can you give me a source?>>59845272
Yes. Its binned better, and has higher IPC

>>59845306
So, if I only gaym? 1500x is the best for me? or 1600x ??

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>>59845272
Maybe 3.5-6% better overclock.
Or better stock clocks if you didn't want to overclock.

It should generally be 1800X performance in games, but half the price.
It's just up to you, man.

>>59845306
Check Anandtech's Ryzen review. They tested with the RX480 and R9 Fury in addition to Nvidia cards. You can see cases where an 1800X+1060 is HALF the fps as a 7400+1060, but put them with an RX480 and it becomes GPU limited like you'd expect.

>>59845329
1500x, 1600, or 1600x are all good. It just depends on your budget and what kinds of gaymes youll be playing

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>>59845306
He's another example.
GTX Titan only at 52% load because the driver won't keep the GPU working.

It's obviously not CPU bottlenecked. No thread is at 100% load. It's the Nvidia driver fucking up.

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>>59845130
>>59844630
One interesting thing I am noticing from the reviews is that Ryzen chips seem to perform disproportionately better for gaming when combined with fast ram AND and an AMD RX video card.

See pic related.

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>>59845375
>GPU from 2014
>Beats Nvidia's best $1200 card from by almost 25%
NVIDIA DRIVERS ARE THE BEST

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>>59845332
>>59845375
Fugg i dont want to wait for coffeelake 6-core, but i dont want Radeon graphics.
>>59845409
Its a new CPU retard. Plus both Nvidia and AMD are having a stalemate.

>>59845391
Yeeeep.

Ryzen + Vega is going to be greatest of all time.

>>59845391
Lucky i have rx480 then :^)

>>59845391
Yep, that's why we're recommending either holding onto your current GPU until 5xx/Vega releases or go for a 470/80 for a Ryzen build, at least until Nvidia sorts their shit out. Even though they are competing with AMD in the GPU department, they most likely don't want to be meme'd as the manufacturer to immediately dismiss if you're going to use an AMD CPU, especially if Ryzen gets legs and starts munching marketshare from Intel.

>>59845391
Lmao.

1% minimums on the RX480 are better than for the GTX1080 on all CPUs, not just Ryzen.

>>59845428
>Fugg i dont want to wait for coffeelake 6-core, but i dont want Radeon graphics.
Don't worry. As you can see, things are shit on Intel CPUs as well in many cases.
AMD performance is much more consistently where you'd expect it to be.

But seriously though, why?
Look how many people you see on /g/ still using a 7970, 280X, 290X, 390X. Old ass GPUs who don't feel the need to upgrade at all.
People with 290X back from 2013 can still game 1440p @ 60fps+ on almost any game.
People with Nvidia GPUs usually feel they have to upgrade every year and shit because they age like milk.

>>59845481
Will Nvidia ever sort their shit out?
These aren't just problems on Ryzen. Many of these problems are with Intel CPUs too. An RX480 should not outperform the 1080 in any metric, yet it does.

Rate hate and comments please
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pd2WCy

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Has anyone had any experience with this mobo? Looking to get it in an R5 1500X build.

(https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144029&cm_re=pc_mate_b350-_-13-144-029-_-Product)

>>59845593
It's probably shit.
Cheap MSIs are always shit. So are cheap ASUS. May as well get Biostar.

>>59845613
>cheap
isn't $100 standard for a b350 mobo though?

>>59845648
yeah it is but idk. Like it's not the Tomahawk or Mortar.
People are having troubles with Tomahawks sometimes, too.

Why not just get the ASRock Pro4, or Gigabyte Gaming 3 or 5?

It does LOOK nice. I do like how it has the x1 slot above the x16 but eh. Some others have that too.

>>59845559
Well, as I said it's in their best interest to improve. They've had some trouble with card-bricking, housefires and performance-tanking drivers in the last 6 months while AMD has done nothing but improve since they started with the Crimson drivers and added DVR and streaming options. A couple more mistakes on their end and all their customers left will be the ratty middle schoolers listening to YouTube shills.

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>can't find anywhere selling r5 1600 for less than 250 euro that ships to/is in Ireland
man I hate not being American

>>59845593
Have it. Its fantastic. Dint be cucked into soending more than necessary like this faggot
>>59845613

>>59845822
Thanks senpai I'll get it for my new build

>>59845566
Looks good man. Be careful what m.2 cover you get tho. Those things always run red hot as it is

>1600(X) at 3.9 really does perform on par with a 4.8ghz clocked 7600K in games. Literally destroys it in everything else
>Do it while streaming with zero performance loss
>tfw waitfagging actually paid off
Shit. Is. Getting. Interesting.

I'm sorry I doubted you, /g/entoomen. Thank you for convincing me not to pull the trigger on muh meme i5 build. Particular thanks to the guy that talked me out of a 7700 non-k.

How am I looking:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/m7yHKZ

Is the general consensus to go with the non-X and overclock?

>>59845854
Yup, pretty much since you can also use the stock cooler and wait until there are more AM4-ready coolers that don't need you ordering separate mounting brackets.

I'm looking into a Ryzen R5 1600 or 1600X build but i'm still undecided on the mobo.
On the one hand I kinda want to buy the Asus Prime X370, but apart from better sound, VRM and Intel LAN it doesn't offer really anything i need for about 40 bucks more.
On the other hand the Asus B350 Prime, MSI Tomahawk or whatever other mobo is good offers everything i want, apart from better sound, VRM and better Intel LAN, imho Realtek is meh.
So, my question is, should i spent the 40-50bucks more on the better mobo or simply stick with a cheaper B350 (if so, which one do you recommend) and call it a day.
To give an idea, budget 1k without GPU, i'll stick with my RX470 until something better comes around, then i'll upgrade to 1440p, too.

>>59845854
Why not just spend an extra 70 for 7700k if youre worried about gaming

>>59845854
>Is the general consensus to go with the non-X and overclock?

Yes, although most places seem to indicate that X chips are better binned and therefore more likely to hit high OC. Realistically though if you're satisfied with anywhere around 3.7-4.0 you should have no issues with the 1600, and you can even use the stock cooler.

Build looks good to me, but you may want to consider getting an AMD video card, for the issues previously mentioned in this thread - eg. see the RX480 getting better performance than the 1080. Unknown when/if Nvidia will provide a driver fix.

>>59845920
It's not just "an extra $70". You'll need a much pricier mobo to OC, and a 3rd party cooler becomes mandatory. Those $70 can quickly ramp up to $200 extra against a B350+1600 build.

>>59845920
>70 extra
Except it's £85 more. Then £40+ for a decent cooler. And £20+ more for a Z270 board.

Nah mate. Nah.

>>59845920
>Corelets trying this hard.
It's over.

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>intel announced yet another chipset
>the release CPU for said chipset has 72 cores
>running at 1.5GHz

>>59846018
Do ryzens not need coolers for overclocking? I just use my z170 mobo. Works fine after bios update

>>59846059
>mfw a single Skylake-E core at 1.5GHz is worth a Zen core at 2.35GHz
>mfw Opteron Zen will top out at 32 cores
maximum kek

Honestly if I use my computer for gaming and the usual light usage (music, browsing, etc) should I get a 7600K or spend the extra money on a 7700K?

>>59845926
May hang back a little while longer and get some more insight in to the binning. And since I'm now considering the rx480 that'll give the rx580 time to show up too.

Damn. This time last year I wouldn't have guessed I'd ever be seriously considering an all-pajeet build. This comeback can only be good for everybody in the long run, even the biggest Intel shill.

>>59845908
>that don't need you ordering separate mounting brackets
Many manufacturers will send you a free mounting-kit anyways and many are already compatible.

>>59846085
Most of them come with coolers that are good enough to OC with.

>>59846108
R5 or 7700K depending on your budget. The i5 is officially dead as of today.

>>59846108

r5 1600

>>59846127
Didnt know people actually used the stock coolers for OC. Guess that makes imthe 7700 about $100 more

I want to be able to play games but also do some game dev with Unreal Engine 4. Would I be gimping myself with a 1600 or should I get the 1700? Is the jump from 6 to 8 cores really worth it for what I'm doing? Honestly if games run just as well with the 1600 as the 1700 then I don't care about the performance in UE4.

If you don't want to read all that: is the difference between a 1600 and 1700 worth it for just gaming?

>>59846108
Depends on how much $100 really means to you

>>59846059
>245 W
FIRE FIRE FIRE

>>59846167
Historically no one did - but the new Ryzen chips are efficient enough and the boxed coolers good enough that it is actually feasible.

Of course it's not going to be good for extreme-end OC, but there is quite a bit of headroom regardless.

>>59845409
more like
>2 gpus from 2013

>>59845428
>not wanting something thats better
?

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>>59846201

Its why the 1700x and 1800x comes without coolers - the wraith spire wouldn't really be much use on them (it would keep them below meltdown but only just) but on the 65w parts it gives enough headroom for some moderate overclocking.

As per The Stilt's analysis you really don't want to push ryzen (especially ryzen 7) to 3.7-3.8ghz without proper cooling due to slamming into a voltage wall.

Pic is my overclocked 1700 that has a cooler rated to handle nearly 300w bolted to it (it was previously used to cool a 7.7ghz 8 core vishera chip). If it try and squeeze 4ghz (which I don't think my chip will hold) I need obscene voltage and temps rocket.

>>59846167
Nobody really does but that doesnt really win internet arguments

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Do I pull the trigger on this? The R5 1500X is already a few bucks over budget in my third world shithole, but I suppose I can try getting a 1600 if it would make a significant difference.
I won't need a cooler, right?

>>59845566
Bump. Pulling the trigger on a build tonight

>>59846018
Where are you buying a z270 board for 20 pounds?? If you meant 200 there are much cheaper options

>>59846343

Why do you have 2 AIOs and why do you not have a D15, R1 ultimate or other such cooler?

>shit mouse
>buying windows
>6 fucking fans
>M.2 as a boot drive

>>59846251
>7.7ghz 8 core vishera chip

Why the hell did you even upgrade?

>>59846391
£20+ more than a B350 board, chum.

>>59846408
Whats wrong with m.2 as a boot drive?

>>59846415
Im 100% sure you can find a comparable mobo. If you like amd just say so dont reach

>>59846343
>$120 for RBG meme fans

Whatever, just do it, you obviously aren't concerned about value.

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>>59846412

Lol woops typo. I meant 4.7ghz. 7.7ghz is not a realistic number.

Besides even if I did have such a chip it would be pulling so much juice I doubt many psus could keep up. Note I never said I kept my vishera cool, noly that I kept it stable and below thermal shutdown (only just).

>>59846408
One for my cpu one for my gpu. I dont like big fans i think theyre ugly.
>shit mouse
Programmable really good reviews. Im open to suggestions
>buying windows
Kinguin has windows for 20$
>6 fans
2 in the case 2 in each aio
>m.2 as boot drive
Dont see the problem? Great read times and size/no wires keep it discrete

>>59846464
I think they look cool. So i guess theres no problem with the hardware?

>>59846516
>coming here for hardware advice
Look at the lost little faggot. Thats not what this board is for m8

>>59846408
I use m.2 to boot. Wicked fast brotha

>>59846540
Ya im starting to see that :( I just wanted to make sure I didnt have some major flaw as this is my first build. I guess if there was one somebody would have
>pointed it out

>>59846499

How do you plan to actually mount one AIO on your gpu? How are you going to cool the memory and vrms?

Why are you using SP120's? There are better fans (especially PWM) than that. I just don't think you have thought this through.

>>59846568

Its the write speeds that make M.2 worth it over sata, something a boot drive doesn't give a fuck about.

>>59846445
>If you like amd just say so dont reach
Oh right. You're an intel shill. And here I was taking you seriously.

Even if the motherboards were identically priced, which they're not, I'd still be looking at a big hike in budget for pretty questionable returns for my needs. Not interested, famburger. 1600 does literally everything I want from it for significantly less money and doesn't tie me to a dead socket.

>>59846464
$120 isnt that much money to people over the age of 22. Thats only about the cost of a nice dinner

>>59846598
>Paying $120 for a box of shit
>"W-w-what's the matter, can't afford it?"

Also:
>Over 22
>Buying LED fans and a side-windowed case.
kystbhfam

>>59846579
>>59846579
Nzxt sells a mounting bracket for gpus. Id be open to fan suggestions tho. I just wanted them all to match with pretty lights. I come here for suggestions all the time and all people ever do is tell me to buy ryzen 1600 or that im wasting money

>>59846591
They are literally identically priced. I think theres like one shot b350 for $10 cheaper but thats splitting hairs. I said comparable and they are

>>59846618
Im over 22 and i have a windowed case. You sound salty

>>59846665

EK Vardar. Or if you are insane get some 38mm thick server fans and tame them with a custom fan curve (watch out for that power draw though).

Shame you don't have 140mm mounting as that opens up options for some monstrously powerful fans.

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Here's what I'm working with so far.

Could use some advice on a few things though:

Case: NZXT H440 vs Thermaltake F51; I like the NZXT's appearance more, but the F51 still looks nice and is almost half the price, is there much difference in features?
CPU Cooler: Which coolers can handle a 1600x overclocked to 4.0 - 4.2 Ghz? It's hard to find any info on what kind of TDP a CPU cooler is meant for.
Motherboards: Which of the B350's can handle overclocking a 1600x to 4.0 - 4.2 Ghz?
PSU: Should I even bother with anything other than the 620W 80+ Bronze Seasonic?

The "reasonable build" in the image is what I'm aiming for. I'm trying to keep the price under $1400 so that I've got ~$600 to spend on Vega.

Open to suggestions beyond the parts I've got listed.

Also I'm building two of these computers - same parts in each, so if there's anywhere I can look for bundles that would lower the price a bit, it'd help.

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>tfw you nearly followed logical increments' advice and bought an i5 7500
Fucking hell. That was a close one.

>>59846739
Thanks man ill look into those. You are the forst person to ever give me any useful feedback. Its appreciated

>>59846817
>$1700
>Not even a GPU

>>59846849

Don't thank me yet. What you need to think about is what you prioritise - cooling performance or silence? Slapping a 3900rpm delta fan onto your radiator could let it cool hundreds of watts of heat but it would sound like Heathrow Airport in the process. For the longest time the Gentle Typhoon was THE fan every watercooler craved for and iirc they are back in production.

>>59846868
That's because the GPU's I want aren't out yet.

Are all mATX Ryzen motherboards already released? Can't find the ASrock AB350M Pro 4 being sold anywhere, or a release date for it if it hasn't been. There's no pricing history or out of stock indicator on pcpartpicker.

>>59846885
That's not the point.

>>59846888
>ASSrock

>>59846739
I need 4 140 mm fans. What are your suggestions?

>>59846516
It's a 7700k/1080, it's obviously going to be fine, even if you are blowing money on meme fans. They have no impact on performance over non-meme fans, they are just more expensive.

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>>59846598
Sure, it's subjective, but when you come to /g/ with meme fans that don't do anything for your performance and ask for feedback, you should expect to get raked over the coals.

>>59846893
It's not meant to be reasonable, it's meant to be "throw money at a 6-core", hence the fucking name "Splurge Build"

Jesus fuck how do retards like you exist?

>>59844578
I want to play overwatch 1080p @ 144hz

is rx 470 4gb enough? I was going for 1060 6gb but it seems overkill

If so, which rx 470 should I get? XFX's 4GB is $169 fucking cheap

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Long ago in 2009, you /g/entlemen helped me assemble my current build with the help of the falcon /g/uide.

It's time for an upgrade and I've been perusing logical increments. Still can't settle on a cooler.

Got any recommendations? Should I go for an air cooler or an all in one?

pic related, dug it off backup drive

>>59846981
I forgot everyone here was a neetfag

>>59847042
fug off my baord

>>59847011

Air cooler. How big depends on your case size and exactly how far you want to overclock (if at all).

Also: I haven't seen that image in years - how time flies.

>>59847042
You don't have to be a NEET to have a problem blowing $120 on RGB fans. People who work for their money try to spend it in a way that maximizes value.

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>>59847077

Righto, thanks. I'll start looking at some reviews.

Indeed, was disappointed I couldn't find the actual /g/uide. Looking at that folder is like a time warp.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CVpQYr
Rate/hate.

>>59847112
Nobody here works and you know it

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I wasn't sure whether to post this here or in /sqt/ but I'll take my chances posting here.

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M5A78LM_LX_PLUS/specifications/
>2 x DIMM, Max. 16GB, DDR3 1866(O.C.)/1600(O.C.)/1333/1066 MHz ECC, Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory
I need more memory, but I don't wanna spend $100+ on 16GB of DDR3, when there's a ridiculous amount of price fixing and shit going on. This is what my motherboard's specification page says, and there's an "ECC Configuration" setting in my BIOS which is disabled (presumably because my current RAM isn't ECC.) I think I'm all good to purchase some cheaper ECC RAM and have it work, but I wanted to double-check to make sure I'm not being had. Additionally, if the person selling the ECC RAM says it's compatible with so-and-so workstation or server, would I still be okay to buy it and slot it in, or is ECC RAM really, truly tied to the manufacturer? I can't imagine any reason why it wouldn't work on my mobo, and such warnings are only meant for people who haven't checked to see if their shit is ECC-compatible, but I figured I'd ask just to make sure I don't waste any money.

>>59847152
Looks good famalam. Maybe stretch it a little bit for a 1600 if you can? Otherwise it's solid.

Anyone got a source for X370/B350 mobo reviews? Can't find anything other than muh professional youtuber unboxing """"""reviews"""""....

>>59847404
Is it just one guy spamming the 1600 all day?

>building a $1100 ryzen rig thats 25% slower than a $1200 intel
Why

>220$ for a 1600 in states
>250€ (~265$) in yurop
Literally why. Amazon.com ships it for free.

Just put together my r7 1700 last night, noticed my idle temps are high at around 40c.It's not getting that hot under 3dmark load, as that's the only thing I got a chance to test last night, but the idle temp seems really high. I know the x variants have a temp read issue, but I thought the non x didn't. Is it possible to be accurate? I'm using the spire and stock thermal paste.

>>59847559
>saving $100 for a minimal performance difference and the jews get none of my money

sounds good to me

>>59847559

because we're not autistic manchildren that play vidya all day.

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>>59844578
Got this so far https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ss9wZ8 , I want to be able to keep it within an $800USD budget for just these parts.
I'm mainly gonna be playing video games at 1080p, with the heaviest game I'm thinking of going to be Witcher 3 on at least Medium settings with High shadows. I do want to do some streaming and recording on this shit too using a second 4:3 1080p monitor, but I'm not that concerned with getting the highest performance in that regard.
I also deliberately chose these parts so that I can get an edgy black and red color scheme going on, the Air 240 being the nicest case I could find to fit that motif.

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Alright, it's been 8 years since I've upgraded my computer and I think it's finally time. I use it for more than just playing video games, so I think getting a Ryzen 5 is a better idea than Intel.

Here are my current specs, of which I'll be moving over the GPU and power supply into all of this.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3tcgHN

I don't plan on doing overclocking, so I went with a 1600X.

Am I making any big mistakes or shortcuts where I shouldn't? The SSD is for my operating system, of which I'll need to get a new copy of windows. Is there somewhere cheaper I can get a win10 key than buying it from them directly?

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Anyone have this 360mm fan from Thermaltake yet? What's /g/'s opinion on it? I'm interested in it because i can easily recycle it for future builds
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106390&cm_re=thermaltake-_-35-106-390-_-Product

Is there any reason to filter by anything beside video RAM and chipset if I only want one card?

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Any suggestions before i pull the trigger ? I need to go intel since its going to be a vfio setup.

>>59847727
>What is ~20% VAT and no taxes added in the US prices

>>59846341
Get the 1600. 2 more cores (= 2 more goods)

>>59848212
Alright, I'll try cutting something else so put it in budget (possibly a 1TB HDD).
Anything else, or is it good?

>>59848238
Aside from the CPU great choices

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>>59847559
top kek, intel fags are delusional

I'm upgrading from fx 6300 to i5 6600k with GA Z170X gaming 3, sata ssd to 960evo m2. Still with 960GTX gpu. Am I fucked? for gaming

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P9jR6X

thinking of buying this, any thoughts or changes you guys would make? I have the money for a little bit extra but I thought it was appropriate for gaming at 1080p at 60hz.

>>59848405
yes

>>59848422
I would swap the 1060 for the 480, but that's a personal choice. They are essentially equal, but the 480 is cheaper.

>>59848405
You're not really going to see much in gaming improvements since you're mostly gonna be GPU bound.

Step 1 to improving videogame FPS: Get a better GPU

everything else comes after that

Is it worth it to build a color theme/aesthetic build in a case with no window? no rgb memes though and prices aren't bad

>>59847841
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hbjvcc

>>59848464
this is retarded

>>59848494
so I should have rgb after all?

>>59848464
>can't see internals
>wants an æsthetic build
Unless you're cleaning your pc you never gonna look inside unless to troubleshoot
Just go lowest price for the parts you want then consider color and memes

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>tfw your parts list is perfect in every conceivable way except video card but that is just a placeholder for whatever is best value when I build it

I have an old gaymen desktop with a Phenom II 965, 8GB of RAM, and a 650 watt power supply. The video card went ded (Radeon 5830 HD) and a friend of mine is offering to sell me his GTX 970 for $150. My questions are:

1. Is that a decent price for a used 970?
2. What will I lose by putting a pci-e 3.0 card into a 2.0 slot?
3. What kind of problems can I expect booting into Win7 with an Nvidia card?

>>59848464
>aesthetic
>no way to see it
Thats like a new art museum being created, and then not letting anyone in. Its a waste of money and ultimately retarted.
>>59848547
>tfw someone even considers the SC version of any EVGA 1000 GPU
>buying a gumstick drive meme so it csn be baked into the motherboard instead of an actual nvme drive

>>59848605
arent nvme drives hella expensive

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>build the coomputor
>front audio out only has one speaker output
Now I pray that it's just cable thats fucked up, seriously don't want to RMA the mobo

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pic is build right now.
i want to upgrade but don't have much idea.
here's what i though about:
cpu: i5 7600k
mobo: asus prime z270 A-LGA1151
ram: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4 3000MHz CL15
fan:Noctua NH-D14 CPU Cooler
hdd: Transcend SSD220S TS240GSSD220S 240GB SSD SATA III , Western Digital Purple 1TB 64MB Sata III

i dun goofed or is it plausible?

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>>59844578

>finally ordered R5 1600 rig today
>cheap RX480's are sold out everywhere
>literally bought a PC without a graphic card

should i pay top dollar for some leftover 480 or wait for the 500's release and get by with my old HD 48xx?

>>59848916
Get a 1060

>>59846822

I wonder if the (((logical))) intelment shill will have the balls to keep the i5 on the list now.

>>59849033

>giving Jews an arm and my first born for a graphic card they're too lazy to optimize for ryzen

no

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How's this for an upgrade to a 7 year old toaster? I have a spare HDD and case laying around, so I don't need one of those. Trying to keep it budget-minded.

>>59849209
Maybe scale down to a 550W power supply? Other than that it's good. It will be absolutely day and night compared to whatever you have now.

>>59849033
The 1060 is fucking deeeeeeead until nvidia get their shit together, and with the 570/580 refresh coming next week they'd better hurry up. Got to be some sweaty brows over there tonight.

Love that we've finally got some competition in the industry again. Don't see that being bad for anyone.

>>59849209

Honestly I don't think it makes sense to get a 1600X. For the price of the 1600X+cooler you can get a 1700. Besides I think the OC headroom for the 1600X should be relatively small as it already runs much hotter than the 1600/1700.

It just seems more logical to either drop to a 1600 and use the money in something else or get a 1700.

So Ryzen for general computing and Intel for super high performance gaming?

Looking to replace my 5.5 year old i5 2500k build.
Is now finally the time?

>>59849240
I like having that comfy safety cushion. It fits within the budget well enough anyway.

>>59849275
I think you're right. It kills me that the 1600x doesn't come with a cooler like the 1700 does. The stock cooler on those is decent, right?

>>59849305
The newer platforms will give you another 5.5 years lifespan and all the mod-cons.

Why wouldnt you upgrade now you know everyone coming out till 2020?

>>59848916
try 470s

dont put that 4000 radeon fire cracker anywhere near your new pc

>>59848592
Anyone?

>>59846181
Short answer, no. Long answer, most games not even utilize full 4 cores, so you would be fine with either. If you are doing video editing and rendering shit, more multitasking, then 1700 has upper hand on 1600. Otherwise, 1600 is the best bang for bucks.

>>59849275
Pretty much this, given that Ryzen hits a bit of a brick wall at ~4ghz anyway. All going to come down to the binning and just what you can reliably get out of the 1600 on stock cooling, I suppose. Going 1600 here regardless. By the time I really feel that potential gap I'll probably be gearing up for Ryzen 2 anyway. Might be different if I had a spare cooler I could order AM4 fixings for.

If they'd put a cooler on the 1600X it would have been such a glaringly obvious choice for gaming builds. As it stands it's merely good. We're spoiled at the moment, aren't we?

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>>59849269
nvidia_executive_tugging_at_collar.gif

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poorfag here. Is this worth it? I don't even have a gpu, but this price looks too good to be true

>>59848916
>all top RX480 sold out here, too
>some RX470 sold out
>RX500 delayed until 18th
Well.. good thing i got a XFX RX470 RS Black Edition on sale for 169€.

>>59848916
How desperate are you? Obvious answer would be wait a week, but I'm pretty sure you already know that.

So it turns out R5 is worth it. Should I pull the trigger now or wait for RX500/Vega?

Any point to going beyond 2.4MHz if I don't plan on OC?

>>59849521
How does that look too good to be true? A GTX 750 Ti goes for around $90-110 now, bought one back in 2015 for $120 on amazon

>>59847011
Holy shit, do you have anything else from that time period or do you only frequent the board for upgrades? I actually distinctly remember reading that guide when researching my first custom PC. Can't believe you still have that

>>59844578
Is this actually a decent combo build by Newegg?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3446197

i7-7700(non K) or 1600x/1700?

my friend is looking to spend less than ~1k for a gaming build.

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>>59844578
Is there even any point of a sound card?

>>59849674
Unless onboard is blasted, you're on a fucking old potato mobo or getting some electromagnetic interference from other components, no.

>>59849585
It's weird that all the prices on amazon are still 100+ thanks though

I just bought a Ryzen 1800X and GTX 1080

How fucked am I?

>>59849639
For gaming? 1600(X). Hands down.

Only kaby lake chips anyone should ever be considering as of today are the G4560 and the 7700K.

>>59849724
you should be fine

You want a Gamer PC (AAA games).
You will receive a gtx1070 and a 600W PS.
Your screen is 1080p
You have $900 budget.
What would you buy? ( motherboard, ram, cooler, processor... No peripherals)

Jesus fuck why are there virtually no cheap non garbage modular PSUs in france? WHY IS THE CHEAPEST ONE 94€ WHILE US GETS 60$ ONES?

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I'm about to pull the trigger, any last suggestions? I'm missing the GPU and Power supply, but I already have one of those ready.

The only thing I'm worried about is 8 GB RAM. I do more than just play video games on this computer.

>>59850055
What GPU?

>>59850073
It's GTX 950. I planned on upgrading that at a later date.

Besides, if I got a new graphics card and cheap power supply, then I'd just have two computers.

Shit

>>59850055

The 1600x comes with a cooler at least as good as that CM.

>>59850165
1600 comes with a stock cooler, 1600X does not

Friend mainly wants to be doing music production on studio one and shit, will get a 480x or so in the future if he wants to play games. How is this build for that? Would switching to ryzen be smart?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nhxTRG

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>>59850310
>locked i5
>z270
Stopped reading right there.

>>59850436
its almost like im not sure what im doing and i came here for advice and opinions

huh

>>59849674
i have a legacy m-audio card where the drivers from win 7 still work in 10 so i use it for 24/96 audio over RCA to my studio monitors. i also used to rip vinyl with it. i'll end up putting it in my next build because i've personally never had a good experience with onboard audio.

This motherboard : ASUS ATX B150 DDR4,
what do you think about it?

>>59849871
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zp4PNN

>>59850452
if you're too stupid to do research even that basic then you should just stick to prebuilts since you'll probably put in your motherboard without offsets and short your system.

>>59850055
>Memer 212 Evo in 2017
>2400mhz RAM for Ryzen
>That SSD

>>59850500
Nah probably not

>>59850310
I just fixed your build added a random good looking sound card. Pick and choose your won. I wont baby you anymore

>>59850598
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/brsMgL

>>59850538
Well the MOBO can only do 2400mhz without overclocking and I'm getting the 1600X since I don't intend to overclock.

What's wrong with the SSD? It's only meant for the OS.

anything in particular to look out for in a wireless network adapter? my internet is super shitty so I'm not even sure a strong one would do me any good

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>>59850055
>V300
No me gusta.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/184253-ssd-shadiness-kingston-and-pny-caught-bait-and-switching-cheaper-components-after-good-reviews
Off the top of my head I'd recommend the sk hynix drive in that price bracket if you don't want to buy a complete piece of shit.

Also: Read about Ryzen and RAM and why you're about to make a mistake.

>>59850598
>>59850612
Thanks. Any thoughts on Ryzen?

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This is pretty similar to other builds ITT, the most taxing things it'll have to handle will probably be brower/vidya, but I was curious since I use emulators regularly if that wasn't going to be a problem.

>>59850874
all of the modern emulators are heavily dependent on single threaded performance, so intel would still technically win in any benchmark. there's a notable performance gap between intel and amd in the dolphin benchmark, but realistically that system can handle any existing emulator just fine.

>>59850477
So, what do you guys think? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w2LdZL
(+ GTX 1070)
(+600W PS)
(+480SSD and 1TB HD)


you may say... "Wasn`t it $900 budget??"....
Unfortunately those 4 components cost ~R$3200,00 (aprox. $1000),
So thats my limit.

>>59850941
drop the i7 and meme 212 and get Ryzen

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So I want to order all my computer parts from one place but since I live in CA in burgerland newegg's tax is astronomically high. Are there any alternatives or should I just bite the bullet and have it delivered via amazon?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2pTFM8

How does this look for a first time pc build? Anything I should change?

>>59851206
>wifi on a desktop
But why.

>>59844578
>Currently worthwhile GFX cards:
>>RX470, RX480 8GB
How big a difference do the 8GB make?

>>59851277
My router is too far away from my desk for an ethernet cord to reach.

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>>59850538
>>59850655
Alright, I've made updates except for the meme cooler response.

How is this?

>>59849724
>Ryzen 1800X
Why?

it's still slower per core which is all that matters

>m-more cores!

Only matters in multi threaded environments which no one uses

>>59846341
im doing FX8320 with a Corsair h100i planning on overclocking probs get 4.2-4.6 GHz. the XFX 480 is gay because the fan will suck too much dust, get one with the open air for less dust. same GPU. probs gonna need more RAM. more is better. needs more RGB reeeeeeeeee

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>>59844578
did somebody here ever build the ultiimate COMPACT browsing (shitposting) & chinese cartoons watching machine?

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>>59844578

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gWFCkT

Purpose: Office work (word, Excel, PPT), web browsing. Will run mint cinnamon, use wine/libre office
Alt purpose: home Nas (*buntu derivative), will be sharing media over samba and SSH access for backups. Would add PCI sata cards.

Budget: not a lot. <$300 USD.
Country: USA

How does this build look? How can this be improved while still remaining inexpensive?
Should pentiums be considered as alternatives?
How are Kingston v300 SSDs in terms of reliability? I have a 60gb that I picked up for $30 a couple years ago, but it hasn't seen use. How does it compare to the pny in the linked build?
Can I use a case from a 2005 emachines to save $20? Are fitment issues likely if I do that?

>>59851438
http://www.lattepanda.com/

>>59851447
>120 Gb accross the board
That's a bit light, innit?

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>>59851569
No games, running mint cinnamon instead of windows, minimal locally stored media, and documents aren't very large.
If used as a nas build, the 120 would just be a boot drive.

Still too skimpy on the storage? I'm a touch worried about ram

>>59851447
power supply is a bit overkill but 4gb of ram is plenty for this

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>>59851786
PSU was the cheapest 80+. Is that not something I need to worry about?

>>59851808
i mean, for this kind of build i wouldn't worry but if you have the money for it then it wont hurt

>>59851438
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QCsMgL

>>59849724
other specs?

>>59846428
It's just a waste.

You want NVMe speeds for scratch and working disk. It hardly affects boot times.

>>59849724
You wasted $250. Should have gotten 1600X

>>59851447
get this ssd instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam
not only you get 130gb more but it's also much faster while still fitting in your budget

psu is a bit overkill but desu going overkill with your psu is a good thing

>>59851447
>>59852015
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Evo-250GB-vs-PNY-CS1311-120GB/2977vs3614

>>59852015
This one is even cheaper
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820329009&ignorebbr=1

>>59852049
can't find this exact one on userbenchmark but another one from the same brand is still pretty slow compared to the samsung ssd
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Evo-250GB-vs-SK-hynix-SH920-25-256GB/2977vsm6594
honestly I would invest in the faster ssd since it's speed will be the bottleneck for almost everything he plans to do with his computer

i was thinking of buying this monitor:
https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-VX2457-MHD-FreeSync-Monitor-DisplayPort/dp/B018MYTH9U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491966093&sr=8-1&keywords=free+sync+monitor

thoughts?

im gonna pair up a ryzen 5 1500x + rx480

>>59846822
>logical increments
There's your problem. That site is awful when it comes to making an actual reasonable build.

>>59849081
>I wonder if the (((logical))) intelment shill will have the balls to keep the i5 on the list now.
Oh, they will. It'll recommend the 7400 right beside the 1500X as """equals"

>>59849275
>Honestly I don't think it makes sense to get a 1600X. For the price of the 1600X+cooler you can get a 1700
Sure it does, if you want the best chance for better single core perf.

>Pretty much this, given that Ryzen hits a bit of a brick wall at ~4ghz anyway
How do you guys keep spreading this misinformation?
That
>brick wall
shifts based on the binning of the parts.
For a 1600 or 1700, that wall is in the 3.7-4.0 range.
For a 1600X and 1800X, that wall is in the 3.95-4.15 range.

5-8% doesn't sound like much, but it does in those cases that rely on the performance on a few threads. Tests seem to show that it can really account for more than a 5% gain since overclocking the CPU makes the cache go faster as well on Ryzen when it doesn't with Intel.
It seems like the difference between 3.7 and 4.0 on Ryzen is more like 15% the minimum frames in some cases, not 8%.

RX480 now or wait for Vega?

>>59849521
You'd have to be retarded to buy that when you can get a 280X for the same price, which is 2x faster.

How do people get into browsing for used hardware when they have no idea what to actually get and what's wroth it? Seems like an easy way to scam yourself.

>>59849633
The cooler is ass, and you can sometimes find 1080s for close to $400.
I mean it says right there..
>save $60
That's pretty crap.

>>59849674
A USB DAC is better and you can get one cheap.

>>59849639
Locked 7700 and 1600/1600X are both really good performance/$ builds that should hold up for a long time.
Hard to say. I'd go with the 1600X because you can upgrade the CPU later for a lot cheaper while LGA1151 seems to be a dead socket.

>>59849724
>I just bought a Ryzen 1800X and GTX 1080
>How fucked am I
You're fine if Nvidia fixes their drivers.

>>59850436
locked i5 with a Z270 is fine.
You get much more value out of the faster RAM than you do from overclocking. I wish more people understood this.
And the cheap Z270 boards are shit for overclocking anything, and only worth it for the faster RAM.
>>59850310
Getting an i5 for music production is just retarded, though. A 1600 or 1500X would obviously be better.

>>59850598
>>59850612
>>59850692
Add a fucking $30-$125 DAC, not a sound card.
Doesn't your friend know what DAC he needs?

Like a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2. You can get them for $90 at Guitar Center.
And yes. Get a Ryzen 1500X or 1600 with a B350 board.

>>59850941
6700k with a b150? No.
the locked 7700 has better all turbo clocks if you're running stock speeds.

>>59851421
The cooler is seriously not that good, even for $25.
It was good for 6 years ago, but not today.

>>59851094
anyone?

>>59847773
>25%
>minimal
What did he mean by this?

>>59851927
How is it a waste? Lots of people use ssd to boot

>>59852414
Pay your taxes you fucking leech

best case under $200, any form factor. go.

>>59852503
S340 elite

>>59852536
compare to H440

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>>59845566
perfect build brotha would buy the same if I had the cash 100/10

Rate My build https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ADAS20/saved/qGPD3C
How could i improve it? I have a budget of 700

>>59852503
Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass
Eclipse P400S Tempered Glass
phantek has the highest quality cases atm

>>59845566
Two 240mm radiators wont fit in that case. Youll have to run your gpu on 120 and that will only leavd the top fan for cooling the rest of your unit. Id scratch the g10 and just use stock fans

>>59852613
Sorry, new link https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yH2zRG

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>>59851447
>>59851763
You might want to get Optane, really. That seems basically what that's for, rather than the SSD.

>>59852257
>RX480 now or wait for Vega?
Those are completely different price points.

>>59852425
It's minimal compared to the total build cost.

>>59852463
Because NVMe isn't really faster for OS boot compared to SATA.

>>59852578
Make sure you get enough coolers when you do yours.

>>59852503
picture related

>>59852650
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yH2zRG
get 2400 memory.
Get an RX470
Go mATX for the motherboard and case savings.
Get a motherboard with decent audio and wifi and drop the wifi and sound cards.

>>59852652
the m.2 stick that was originally being referred to isnt faster but it isnt any more exensive either

>>59852685
expensive*
Sorry. Its past my bedtime. Too excited to sleep though my parts are coming tomorrow! Ups dont fail me now

>>59852272
>The cooler is ass, and you can sometimes find 1080s for close to $400.
>I mean it says right there..
>>save $60
>That's pretty crap.

Other than the cooler, is the rest of the build alright?

Not too worried about the savings desu, just want a good build and it'd be nice to get everything in one shipment.

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eh

its coming along

all other peripherals are taken care of

>>59852354
So what cooler would you recommend? If it's anything above $60, wouldn't I be better off getting a 1700 that comes with one already?

>>59852672
I updated my build a bit, how does this look? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TgBy7h
I need the wifi card because i cannot access the ethernet port in an easy manner.

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how badly did i fuck up?

>>59852650
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2RVLnn
30$ over budget but a much better pc, you can cheapout on the case and get a 15$ case and buy a good one when you have money so you meet your 700$ budget

>>59852755
>shitair ram
welp gl getting that runing at 3000mhz should have picked 3200mhz g.skill ram

>>59852810
Badly. You can get an easily superior case for $90 less

>>59852810
wheres your prime, boy?

>>59852844
such as? still not too late to cancel.

>>59852852
pls go mr. moneybags

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>>59852810
>>59852852
>>59852860
almost couldve gotten a better case and a year of prime for that amount

HeH

>>59852881
what case?

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>>59852652
>>59851849
>>59851786
>>59852015
>>59852038
Thanks!

>>59851908
Cooling is CORSAIR Hydro Series H60, motherboard is an ASRock X370 Killer

>>59852725
I've seen far worse builds posted on here many times every day.
So yeah it's not awful.

>>59852781
The 1700 doesn't have a cooler worth $60.. it's worth maybe $20-$30.

Well I'm getting the Cryorig C1 because I like down blowers. An H7 is better and cheaper, though.

>>59852792
Better, but I don't get why you wouldn't just get a motherboard with wifi on it. It'd be cheaper than the board+card together.
>>59852816
he needs wifi and a monitor, obviously.

Speaking of cases
>2 diffenrent entries on pcpartspicker for Corsair 200R
>one is cheaper than the other but as far as I can tell they're the same
Why?

>>59852860
Fractal Design Define R5

Aren't Corsair HX 650 PSUs supposed to be high quality? Fucking hell I think mine is dying on me, I'm getting random shutdowns while playing demanding games, and that shit is like 4 years old.

Question: is there any monitor on the market that matches the iMac 5K in terms of ppi and color gamut yet? Or am I better off just hooking up a TV to my computer?

>>59852997
>tv
Lol

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RX500 prices, apparently.
So yeah, roughly the same as the RX400 but better cards.

Anonymous 04/11/17(Tue)21:15:31 No.59853056 ▶
Is the consensus now that if you're too poor to afford an i7, but rich enough to afford an RX480/GTX 1060 3GB, you should buy Ryzen 3 or 5? And now all of Ryzen 7, i3, and i5 are eternally BTFO'd for consumers?
>Intel i7>Ryzen 5>Ryzen 3>= Intel Pentium

>>59853087
Fuck mobile posting sucks.

question about cpu coolers
I know the hyper 212 has been the go to for a long ass time, but now with other offerings like the cryorig h7 and others is it still the best band for the buck?
What would be the cheapest acceptable aftermarket cooler? what would be the best performing budget cooler? I'm not even sure which companies are really in the budget cooler game these days, and especially not the smaller lesser known coolers, ie. the silver arrow to the nh-d15

>>59852945
i asked for a case, not a dumpster.

>>59853074
How much better is the actual question.

>>59853074
will they all have the same coolers on them?

Will I regret buying one of the EVGA ICX 1070/80?
I actually like that the card lights tell you if your components are too hot.

And I don't want one of the exploding ones. But even the SC2 one is a solid $50 more than the bad versions of the cards.

>>59852924
but the 1700 does have the Wraith Spire cooler, he is bretty gud

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6F9bZ8

My psu blew over and I was able to save some parts and decided to rebuild it with top kek specs. Are these new parts worth it or just memes? what other alternatives would you suggest? The general purpose of the build in playing vydia and video editing.

>>59851347
8GB versions are faster memory
Not a huge different, maybe a few FPS here and there, but it'll help if you wanna play high textures on anything

>>59853087
Ryzen 7 is amazing for non-gaymers.
But the 1600 or 1600X is the obviously better buy for gayming over them unless money just doesn't matter.

The 7700 is obviously great for gaming, but I'd still recommend a Ryzen one simply for the AM4 platform. Much better upgrade path even if the current gen doesn't clock high enough to be ideal for gayming.
Hell, even for gaming, the 1ms lower input delay on Ryzen is generally a bigger deal than 0.5ms lower frame times, right?

Like as good as the 7700 is, it still drops under 144fps in games like For Honor when the 1600 doesn't.
What's the point in spending all that money for the "very best" gaming CPU that doesn't even keep 144fps minimum in so many games?
The 1600 doesn't in lots of games either, but it's good for other things and seems like it will be better able to in the future.

And for some reason, Ryzen seems to do far better with a slight GPU bottleneck under Nvidia. But without one, Nvidia GPUs often seem to not fully utilize when they should.
It'll be much more interesting when we can see 1600X+big Vega vs 7700k+big Vega or 1080Ti. Especially in DX12/Vulkan.

>>59853157
>is it still the best bang for the buck?
Not if you factor in noise (which I do), no. The H7 and some others are far quieter in addition to cooling better.

I know the C1 only cools about as good as the 212 Evo, but it's 1/10th the noise. Costing double, and that it cools RAM And VRM, was worth it to me.

>>59853179
>How much better is the actual question.
Looks like 8-12%. That's not insignificant considering it was already better on average than the 1060 and destroyed it at 1440p and/or DX12/Vulkan.

Would it be unwise to put a locked i7 in a mini ITX build

>>59853251
>video editing
get an r7 1700 it is much better and gives you better 1% in games.

Anyone have any experience with the corsair 300R case?

>>59853301
Keep the TDP under 65W for ITX. They are really difficult to keep cool without using a water-cooler/Peltier-cooler

>>59853396
ive been using one for almost 4 years now

>>59853396
I have one. I bought it because it was on the logical increment suggestion a few years back.
I have no real objection to it, but it was my first case so I'm not exactly picky. Only 2 USBs up front if that matters to you.

>>59853446
>>59853447
How's the cooling and cable management? the 2 usbs shouldn't be a problem.

>>59853279
>but it's good for other things and seems like it will be better able to in the future
not this fucking shit again, same crap was said about bulldozer, wait until more programs use more cores and then the CPU will be amazing!

anyone know where to find a thermalright true spirit 140 in the US?

What's a good $60-$80 atx sized case?

>>59853469

ample space in the back for hiding cables and you can fit like 2 big fans up top

Looking to do a video editing build(don't play games anymore), so do I really need to splurge on a graphics card? I was thinking 7700k plus 1080ti but, if GPU doesn't matter could I just go 6900k and a 1060?

>>59853683
7700K is awful for video editing, any Ryzen 7 is going to perform as well as the 6900k while being miles cheaper. GPU doesn't matter much for video editing.

>>59853837
ty anon ur the best
DESU I haven't looked at computer building in such a long time I'm just due for an upgrade so u helped a lot

>>59853556
No, because it doesn't matter if they use more cores.

It's still good to have 20%-30% of CPU utilization left over while giving comparable frame rates. rofl.

Just how it is now is good.

>>59853683
There are some video editing tasks that are GPU accelerated, but final renders will always be CPU due to the better quality for a given bitrate.

Just get an R7 1700. Or the 1700X if a microcenter is near by so you can get it for a more reasonable price. It's otherwise not worth $70 more when it doesn't come with a cooler.

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I have no idea what I'm doing

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Dmv2nn

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>>59853957
>ca

>>59853989
anywhere is better than living in the third world shithole I was in before, even
>a fucking leaf

>>59853957
>A FUCKING LEAF
I would add another power supply for future upgrades but that looks fine.

how's this video card?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6898TW/gigabyte-radeon-rx-480-40gb-g1-gaming-video-card-gv-rx480g1-gaming-4gd

I don't need something amazing and im not trying to spend anything more than $200

How's this build look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RgxVyf
>cpu cooler wont fit
fuck pcpartpicker, it will, it's been done many times
>850w psu
planning on adding a second 980ti at some point, as well as overclocking, still feel like that might be a bit high though.

>>59854012
thanks anon. How long do you figure this build will last with smooth frames if I play shit at
- 1080p Ultra settings
- 720p Ultra
- 720p High-mid
respectively? I just wanna do it once and not bother for years to come because I'm a lazy fuck who is too scared of fucking up a build

R5 1600 $181 at Jet right now.
G4560 $50 at SuperBiiz

>>59853957
What's the price for the Seasonic 550RM? You probably want that instead.
And get faster memory. 2800-3200.
And get an RX480 or RX580. Dunno why you're paying extra for a card that often has drivers gimp its performance on Ryzen right now.

>>59854061
You can get the ROG Strix 8GB for $215
Is the Red Devil one still not on sale for $190?

>>59854125
The CPU will handle 60fps in virtually any game fine, except for the same ones where the 7700k also drops under 60.
The 1060 and RX480 both aren't going to play EVERY game at "ultra" settings. You might have to turn a setting or two down but it'll still look very good.

>>59854150
I was plannign on switching up the RAM. This one should work, right?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/pH2rxr/geil-memory-gpr416gb3000c15adc
as for the video card I'm not sure if I wanna go full AMD just yet, and the leaf price range is actually higher for the RX480 by about 100 bucks for the 8Gb version while the 4Gb one is still slightly more expensive

>>59854215
Yes, that RAM will work.

I saw canadian prices earlier and it seemed like the RX470 and RX480 were still better buys compared to the 1060.
Maybe you should wait for the RX500 launch anyway.

would this power supply be overkill for my build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kz7CmG/evga-power-supply-210gq0650

my current build : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bhjBJV

>>59854323
Just give the fucking model number so people dont have to copy fucking URLs.

But yes, it's overkill. You won't draw over like 400watts doing a major stress test of CPU+GPU combined. Most of the time you'll be at 35-200watts.

You should also be able to find that Seasonic 550RM for $50-$60 unless that sale already ended.

Thinking about upgrading from my fx-8370 to a r7, would a 1700x OC be better or as good as a 1800x stock?

>>59854455
The 1800X is on average 2.5%-4% better.
Your luck may vary and you could get a 1800X that's barely better than the best 1700X.

>worth
is subjective. To most of /g/, 2.5-4% better overclock potential is not worth 25% more money.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mktNjc

Putting the final touches on the build:
>Should I switch from EVGA to SeaSonic for the PSU?
>I need a good HDD. Something quiet, 2-3TB, 7200RPM.
>These ASRock Motherboards are hard to find. Will they be back in stock anytime soon or are they the Nintendo of the mobo realm?

>desktop doesn't boot
>open it up
>thermal paste is badly deteriorated
That'll teach me.
I'm not sure how to diagnostic what died. I'm tempted to say the CPU or mobo because the screen says it gets no signal whether I plug it into the gpu or mobo. Any suggestions?

At the same time, it's a 4 yo rig, so I'm considering basically re-doing it from the ground up. CPU and GPU were
>i5 4430
>Sapphire HD 7850 2Go

I was wondering if I should keep the GPU for now since I think it's not dead, or just get an RX480 right away. I'm probably going to angle towards ryzen 5 for cpu now since i7 is out of my budget. Also, should I buy a PSU in prevision? I still have the seasonic M12II-520Bronze as a result.


I'm surprised how expensive the CPU and GPU apparently still are, I was under 900€ at the time with everything included. Do prices not go down or something?

>>59854577
>Should I switch from EVGA to SeaSonic for the PSU?
That's a good PSU at that price.
Unless the 550RM is still on sale for $50 and you want to save money, then sure why not.

>These ASRock Motherboards are hard to find.
Yeah everyone wants them.
That and hoping the 1600X goes on sale is what's holding up my build...

>I need a good HDD. Something quiet, 2-3TB, 7200RPM.
Why? It won't spin up most of the time, and the whir of the HDD is the best sound computers make.

is the i5 2400 still good for games
the most demanding thing ill play is fallout 4

>>59854636
>is the i5 2400 still good for games
I think a G4560 is going to be equal to it in a lot of cases.

>the most demanding thing ill play is fallout 4
I would Imagine it runs that pretty shit.

i5/1060-6
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s7jqgL
**vs**
r5/580-8
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FTf2nn
>mfw you can get a pc this good for $1000, what a time
>>59854455
1700 non x or Just Wait™ for Zen+ 4.5ghz 8 cores.

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Building first pc

Thinking gtx950 (for cost purposes) and going 1070 later. Is the rest sound? More than likely going to get a gold/silver psu.

Have some questions about the tower itself if anyone has experience making a tower from scratch.

>>59854634
Was looking into Hitachis a couple days ago and all reviews mention loud clicking. I don't mind the background drone of fans and drives spinning, but audible clicking doesn't sound too appealing coming from an HDD.

>>59854682
Forgot to mention, will be getting ssd later and probably not getting the dvd (or ill salvage one from an old pc)

>>59854682
no seagate

>>59854649
I'd love to see benchmarks between those two systems.
You have no idea.

Also replace the MX4 with NT-H1/CP7/GC instead.
And you can get the 1600 for $180 from Jet right now.

>>59854682
>all that money
>only 4 threads

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so this is my pc now basically but its got whatever else it needs just generic crap

well me gpu died recently n lookin to replace it, no more than $200 australian dollars. not lookin for highest end or anythin just want somethin that can play me vidya even if lowest settings. recoommendations?

>>59854682
should get a 500-600w psu and also ryzen 5 is better then the i5 7600k

>>59854720
Advice then? You can probably tell I haven't built one before

I know it's in the OP, but still. What should I get RX480 8gb or GTX 1060 6gb?
I have i7-6700k and 600W PSU.
Considering RX480 because sweet extra VRAM, but on benchmarks 1060 is a little bit faster, so I can't really decide.
Also 1060 is ~15$ cheaper, but it's pocket money so who cares.
Planning to play some games 120hz 1080p

>>59854727
the rx470 or the 1050 ti should be good for that price range

>>59854745
RX 580 on the 18th

>>59854744
People have posted way more good builds than usual in this thread.
Scroll up and see the advice given on them and such. I'm sure you can find a good one in your budget at least as a starting point. I'm tired right now.

>>59854745
>but on benchmarks 1060 is a little bit faster
Are you looking at benchmarks from June/July 2016? Newer ones I've seen show the RX480 way better on average. There's exceptions like Overwatch, GTAV, and The Witcher being quite Nvidia favored. But the new RX580 coming out are like 8-11% faster for the same price which makes them the obvious choice even if you play a lot of Nvidia favored games.

>>59854727
I believe you can get a 4gb RX470 for around $200 AUD.

>>59854771
>If I could get an i7, would that be a better than the ryzen 5
Better than the 1500X? Yes, definitely. I would not consider any i5, though.
Better than the 1600X? Depends. 1600X will have lots of CPU to spare for other shit running on the computer without impacting your gaymes. And the 1600X is better at 7zip, rendering, encoding, EXCEL SPREADSHEETS, and so on.

>>59854759
Unfortunately, Russian retailers probably will shit on the original price so it's not gonna be worth it.

>>59854758
>>59854758
would rather spend as little as possible desu. i get the impression that just about any video card these days will do the job. not sure why my r9 270 shit itself on me htough. vidya i was playin has been havin problems recently since a recent update with fps n such,...

>>59854782

Ok i'll do some scrolling

does the i7 exceed the 1600X in any circumstance then?

>>59854794
What are used 280X in your country?
In America they're half the cost of the 1050Ti but much more powerful. That's usually my go-to recommendation.

>>59854577
Can anyone answer the ASRock/Taichi question? How often do those things come back into shelves?

>>59854771
yeah it should better, but do some research though

>>59854727
try oven baking the gpu.

>>59854832
fuck off linus

>>59854794
then go down 1 card below what i said for both brands and you should be under the $200 range

>>59854805
Only in gaming, and that's if you just play and don't expect to stream or multitask. Also dead Intel socket upgrade-wise vs. AM4 being around until 2020

>>59854805
I just said the i7 does. Yeah in the vast majority of games, at least with an Nvidia GPU, the 7700k will get more FPS. But it does that without CPU to spare for other tasks, is the point I made.

The 7700k is a good cpu, but expensive, just like the OP says. the 7600k is not.

>>59854682
>7600k
>using twice as much CPU to deliver lower framerates half the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JypkqwpOtNI
And this is the stock 3.2ghz 1600. Jesus.