/pcbg/ - PC Building General

WAIT FOR RYZEN+ REDUX EXTREME ELECTRIC BOOGALOO

Best, sexiest mAtx case right now? Planning to wait for InWin 301, but I'm curious which one is right now the standard.

I have this motherboard:

http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK-rev-10#ov

If I am planning on upgrading a bunch of parts, when is it time to upgrade the mobo? I should be fine for a couple more years with this thing right?

OP is a tech illiterate the general.
I really want to see how well the R5s hold up tomorrow.

Please add budget cooler advice to the OP. If I see that 212 Evo one more god damn time...

What are some recommended youtube channels?

>>59833254
https://www.youtube.com/user/NationalAutisticSoc

>>59833254

For what?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PTjJZ8

How does this look for $3000?
I included monitor and keyboard

Recommending a pentium is like trying to convince someone getting fucked in the ass is a good idea.

Some people will love it, most people will hate you for life.

>>59833279
PC building general. More than anything I want news hightlights.

>>59833306

Then check out Paul and Kyles live streams.

>>59833183
>G4560 for budget builds
No argument here, but can people stop with the $60 meme? That's on one site that's had no stock pretty much ever as far as I can tell, and no expected restock date. Be aware of this when pricing your shit on pcpartpicker.

>>59833320
>Paul and Kyles
Awesome Hardware, right? I'll give it a watch. Thanks

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Why are there hardly any comparison reviews for the various motherboards on the same microcode?
I've only found a few, and they don't list the microcode used which skews the results.

They're also dated. I want to see how the new Gigabyte F5 bios looks.

>>59832991
uhhh the ASRock B350 Pro4 is not mATX.

>>59832807
Looks like the majority are going for Vulkan now, anyway.
Just VM for win10 dx12.

>>59833211
>Best, sexiest mAtx case right now
I think the one in the OP is sexy. But maybe not "best" since you need to mod it to get better airflow.

>>59833286
>59833286
>1080Ti Founders Edition
>founders edition
No, this is severe dysfunction. Absolutely HORRID cooler that will make this fine beast suffer from thermal throttling.
Get yourself some MSI, EVGA, Asus or whatever that is not Founders Edition.
Also, do not expect it to absolutely crush 4K games. No single card does that perfectly yet.

>>59833286
Can't do any better, good picks

>>59833331

It's a live stream, so expect them to literally read the news articles then explain what's going. While they drink beer.

>>59833332
>uhhh the ASRock B350 Pro4 is not mATX.
Good thing that's not the board I mentioned then, eh? And I've pulled the trigger.

Anyone recommend a nice miniatx case. Need something smallish for my dorm room

>>59833337
Acer predator x34 is widescreen 1440p. Much less taxing than 4K. I think the 1080 ti should be able to get good fps

>>59833286
I wouldn't pay $1000 for a monitor now with HDR10 Freesync2 monitors coming.

I also think ultrawides are trash. Even the 34" ones.

>>59833353
Oh nevermind. Googling it kept giving a different result. Yeah that looks good.

>>59833321
It's $65 with free shipping on Newegg and it's not even on sale. Close enough.

>>59833254
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCss3QxegBkF8BAetIo0qXA
Guides and tips

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>>59833196
(you)

>>59833364
My bad. Will definitely perform better than pure 2160p, but still do not expect overwhelming performance on very certain games.

>>59833354
Just go full Node 304 and don't look back.

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Why build a computer when perfect can be bough, and picked up from your local Apple store?

It just doesn't make sense to me.

>>59833376
The what what monitors? Are they compatible with NVIDIA?

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Current PC - wanting to do a up(side)grade in the coming months. New case and 1070 SC Black are in the mail currently.

Thinking of cannibalizing the CPU and HDDs/SSDs only and getting new Mobo, and RAM.

All other peripherals are taken care of already.

Tips appreciated

>>59833400
Seems kind of cubic. Do they not have tall ones?

>>59833418
>perfect

Even Apple said that the Pro was a mistake.

>>59833418
>Why make your own fine meal when mass produced trash can be bough, and picked up from your local walmart?
>It just doesn't make sense to me.

>>59833441
Don't fall for the cubic meme. Check out fractal's Define Mini C. It's a very nice micro ATX case.

>>59833421
They aren't Gsync, but will work in that they'll display picture, yes.

Gsync will probably die off within a year, anyway.
Nvidia has no competing proprietary tech for Freesync2 despite HDR10 monitors coming out this year, and everything is including Freesync now days anyway which is compatible with Freesync2.

>>59833418
Already obsolete, and a real Mac Pro is cumming this year.

>>59833470
>Define Mini C
Looks nice. Thanks

>>59833510
Not him but just keep in mind it has no place for an optical drive which was one of the reasons I passed on that one. But if you're one of the people that'd question why someone has a blu-ray drive in their build then you'll probably be fine.

But I agree with the other anon, it's a very nice case overall.

>>59833486
Unless vega and this new type of monitor severely cuts price while performs as good as 1080 ti and Gsync I don't think it will be worth the wait

Any ATX cases worth looking at? I'm going to disassemble and clean before summer and was going to replace the case in between.

Really need to keep the temp in control.

>>59833428
>EVGA Housefire
retard

SALES
http://www.frys.com/product/9127118?site=76premail041117
1400 with cooler for $150. $20 off.
$152 from Jet's. $52 for G4560 from Jet's as well.

https://www.wdc.com/products/solid-state-drives/wd-blue-ssd.html
1TB SSD $180 if you have an .edu email. 500GB $95

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/misc/deal-of-the-day/pcmcat248000050016.c?id=pcmcat248000050016
960GB SanDisk Ultra 2 $40 off, $230.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131704&Tpk=N82E16814131704
RX480 8GB RX480, $180 after MiR. It's Power Color and not red dragon, though.

>>59833557
uhhh HDR10 is way nicer picture. Way bigger color gamut and contrast.
You can't really see steps in a gradient with HDR10.

So is the Asus B350 motherboards are bad meme over? Is it good now?

>>59833576
1080 Ti $651
https://jet.com/product/ZOTAC-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-DirectX-12-ZT-P10810A-10P-11GB-352-Bit-GDDR5X-PCI-Expr/67918a4b072b45b08dba5f29c87ee79b

>Go to only real b+m system builder in my area
>Discuss them building a system according to my parts list
>Watch guy behind the counter take what looked like a pretty high-end Noctua cooler, affix some kind of thermal pad to the bottom, then install it
I... I can trust them not to fuck my shit up like that if I stress what I actually want them to do, right? Right /g/? They're pretty much my only option short of a prebuilt.

Inb4 build your own. Would love to, senpai, but cerebral palsy is a shithouse.

>>59833576
>he won't give reddit credit
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/

>>59833613
The ASUS B350 was always fine.
It was the X370 that sucked, but it seems the latest BIOS finally fixed it.

>>59833576
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01NCTHS6E/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new

1440p 24" 144hz freesync monitor. All time low price. $350.

>>59833635
Why would I? There's a bunch of crap there that's not actually a good price or worth buying.. I'm just pointing out the good ones. That's not the only place to find shit on sale.

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>>59833657

>>59833541
Other guy here. That's actually a really good point about the optical drive. I know they are kinda niche these days but I'm surprised at how quick manufacturers have been to dump optical drives in general.

>>59833573
Define S/Define R5/Define C/S340. Those are a few decent ones around $100 and have several options for cooling configurations.

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What does /g/ think of my build? pic unrelated

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yFyVyf

How many cores are Ryzen desktop APUs going to be?

>>59833779
>Fractal Design case
enjoy your AIDS

>>59833779
It's okay senpai but JUST step up to the 1600. Or don't. Benchmarks out tomorrow.

>>59833811
You have OBJECTIVELY shit taste.

>>59833779
That RAM may or may not cause problems if you want to run it at its rated speed on Ryzen.
Also:
>Wireless in 2017
Run cables or go powerline, my nigga.

>>59833811
Is this the faggot who was building a poverty spec shitbox in some godawful exposed-front-LED-fans case these last couple of days, by any chance? Either way, nice argument.

are RX480s still having grey screen issues or is it safe now? or will 580s be close to the same price?

>>59833838
Any specific RAM I should get instead then?

>>59833779
I'd get the Gaming 3 or Gaming 5 motherboard.
I see no reason to not go with mATX, either.

And I'd get a 500GB SSD and add the HDD on later when needed.

How long till cases start adopting front panel type C in mass? Will we see more of those at Computex? Does type C need a special motherboard header? I assume you could plug it into a regular USB 3 header and have it work at 5gbit speed rather than the 10gbit speed, or am I wrong?

>>59833846
All speculation but I think same price if rumors hold up.

>>59833803
You're looking for single rank samsung b-die from whoever can provide you your chosen speed the cheapest, basically. Not to say that's all that'll work, but it's all that seems to be 100% guaranteed at the moment. This might change as more BIOS updates roll out.

People seem to have been having a lot of success with G.Skill TridentZ stuff. The 3200mhz CAS 14 stuff is what normally gets brought up but it's pricy and it seems like everything of theirs 3000mhz upward is on samsung b-die right now, so the cheaper kits are probably good too.

>>59833907
Think this was meant for >>59833852

>>59833861
Doesn't mATX have less expansion options though?

And why add the SSD later?

>>59833803
4c/8t at most for consumer APUs.
There may be cut down 3c/6t as well.

>>59833947
>less expansion options
For what purpose?

>>59833779
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yFyVyf
looks good

>>59833956
Well it has no PCI-e port for one.

>>59833633
Doesn't bode well, mate. Not sure I'd trust them unless I was looking over their shoulder the whole time and I dount that would go down well. Do you not know any local neckbeards or independent guys doing that sort of thing?

How well can I do at $500 for a build with no gpu but with a case like the one
>>59833510
(Define Mini C) wants. I mostly do programming and watch videos here and there

>>59833986
wat? Yes they do. mATX can have up to 4 PCIe slots.

How long til ryzen? It's midday here in Australia and still no ryzen!

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I only game and do graphic design that doesn't involve 3D rendering or video editing. Didn't really care about aesthetics beyond cable management, but a number of the parts happened to have a white option so I'm hoping it will contrast with the black case interior. Will the CPU fan be plenty if I'm not overclocking?

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>>59833861
>And I'd get a 500GB SSD and add the HDD on later when needed.
But what if he already has more than that in his anime folder AND wants to install some games?

>>59834018
>i5
>when ryzen 5 exists

dump that shit and get a R5 1600

>>59834005
Only like a $10 difference but sure I'll change the mobos.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rJZxjc

Looking for hate from AMD fanboys

>>59834018
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, son.

>>59833183
who is this semen demon?

>>59834018
>$1486 for 4 threads
>212 evo
>overpriced 1060
>1200watt PSU
Worst build posted so far in this thread. Start over.

>>59834007
Tomorrow
>>59833852
G.Skill or Corsair RAM
>>59833491
Nice try kike.

>>59834057
Don't fall for the bait

>>59834051
>who is this semen demon?
Jonsbo UMX3, I think.
It's mATX, obviously.

>>59833986
mATX has PCI-E, hell even ITX has PCIe support.

Now on mATX vs ATX, it depends on how long you plan to keep your computer for if those the expansion really matter to you. I have an old ass computer that I use as a HTPC with mATX and it has 1 PCIe x16 slot, 2 PCIe 1x slots and a PCI slot. If I was to use a PCIe GPU it would cover up one of the PCIe 1x slots, so I don't because I want both PCIe 1x slots for a wifi card and a USB 3.0 card (shit is so old the motherboard doesn't have headers for it to run it to the front panel). If I had more slots maybe I could do something, but at this rate I think it's best to just throw that shit out because it's 6 years old.

How is this fan as an intake for a positive air pressure set up?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KF7Q4WG/ref=pd_gwm_simh_2?pf_rd_p=cc000f63-21ee-4dc4-b9b6-9082ebacae63&pf_rd_s=blackjack-personal-1&pf_rd_t=Gateway&pf_rd_i=mobile&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=TPKGPY0VM01BFK4MMC0W&pf_rd_r=TPKGPY0VM01BFK4MMC0W&pf_rd_p=cc000f63-21ee-4dc4-b9b6-9082ebacae63

>>59834042
>Windowed case
>LED fans
>Gaymur keyboard
4chan is an 18+ site, kiddo.

>>59833992
How heavy is the programming? You could probably get a case like that and a budget intel CPU and be alright if you're not interested in gaming. You might be able to swing a locked i5 with a cheap motherboard too.

>>59834073
Preferably I would like my computer to last long.

>>59834038
The mATX case is cheaper. It winds up being like $30-$40 saved.

>>59834073
There are mATX motherboards with on-board wi-fi.

And as for sound, you can get a USB DAC that's even better than any PCI sound card.

>>59834042
>$2000 quad core system
Just fuck my shit up, son.

Have you guys ever dealt with Fractal Design's customer service? How did it go?

>>59833612

>>59834018
Your researching skills are trash.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3F97HN

>>59834067
I already have corsair RAM selected.

>>59834106
>>59833612
Who the fuck did you buy this from? Couldn't have been amazon directly, had to have been a marketplace cuck. Get amazon involved for sure.

>>59833183
>>G4560 for budget builds (<$500) unless G4620/i3 is discounted over 25%

this is an american site

stop fucking using dated news

post a link to a new boxed G4560 in america with free shipping that is fucking $50

NOT 69.99

which is what BH is selling for, the only retailer on pcpartpicker actually in stock

and at that point its barely $10 cheaper than the 4600 which is in stock plentyful at $80 and better all around

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About to pull the trigger on a Gigabyte K7, it just got a BIOS update and more ram compatibility. However, the ram on the list is 2x16 CMK32GX4M2B3200C16, the one I wanted is 2x8 CMK16GX4M2B3200C16. Would I be correct in assuming that there shouldn't be any difference?

>>59834069
is there any way to get jonsbo cases in the US other than aliexpress?

>>59834152
In compatibility, I mean

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what card should I upgrade to in order to play ghost recon wildlands on something other than low?

budget is about $225-250

>>59834141
Was already posted. Quit being a whiny, sperging faggot

G4560 for $52 >>59833576
Available from many other sites for $60.

>>59834129
Says "Sold by: Amazon.com LLC" in the order overview.

>>59834155
There are global shippers. I know you can get the VR2 from grooves-inc.com

>>59834173
4770k or 4790k. Then you don't have enough for a GPU, so you're fuck, unless the stuttering mess your 4c/4t will give is fine.
Only GPU you can get in that range that makes sense is the RX480 or the upcoming RX580.

>>59834141
It's in stock at Newegg for $65 with free shipping, you stupid cuck. The G4600 is only 100 MHz faster, who gives a shit. That's not even worth $10 more if you're that destitute you're considering buying that in the firstplace.

>>59834185
Brutal. Initiate the return process with them. Never seen anything like that before.

>>59834199
I'm not trying to upgrade my cpu, just the gpu

>>59834042
>Not getting an m2 disk in a $2000 computer
>full tower 1 disk, 1 gpu
>2666mhz in the year of the lord of RAM OC
>gtx 1080 in 1440p 165hz, enjoy your constant 50 fps
>keyboard cost the same than the motherboard

Retard, enjoy your aids.

>>59834042
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qzdxjc
Dont get me started on your MSI SLI gaymur shit

>>59834222
Trips of truth

>>59834088
Nothing too heavy. Programming in C, compiling a tiny linux kernel and running one or two virtual machines.

I found a some build combinations that can I try to base mine on.

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212X 82.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($119.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($119.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.79 @ OutletPC)
Total: $659.51

I'm not sure where to go cheapter. I actually wanted more RAM and perhaps more cores. Maybe Ryzen 5?

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The only 3D game that doesn't work well on my GTX 260 is Civ VI
>tfw a suitable GPU is $250
>just for 1 game

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3tbksJ
Man i love Intel, but you gotta hand it to AMD. 6 cores for $249, thats amazing! Sure it doesny have top performance, but Im not xx_1337_gaymur_xx

>>59834075
Anyone? I've not had any experience with their case fans, only their CPU coolers.

>>59834289
idk dude. There's no CFM listed. Can't be much when it's so thin, I don't think.

>>59834220
If Ghost Recon:Wildlands is what you want to play, the GTX 1060 works a bit better than the RX 480 (right now) so you might consider that. If they're the same price or you can get a 480 for much less then go with that since they're very close in performance and much, much better than what you're using now. If you're interested in a variety of games then I'd lean toward 480 anyway, just pointing out GR:WL.

>>59834215
I'm okay with this image.

>>59834244
Wait until tomorrow to see Ryzen 5's benchmarks. It seems like it will be right for what you're trying to do. The quad core Ryzen 5s are going to be a really good value with performance better than similarly priced i5's in lots of tasks. You could probably save a few dollars on a more basic power supply. Usually something 80 Plus bronze would be alright for a personal computer unless you're running it all the time and really want that efficiency. If you do go Ryzen expect to be able to save a couple bucks on a b350 motherboard since they can be had a bit lower than the one you have selected.

>>59834289
It looks like a nice fan but I can't say I have any personal experience with it. How's your airflow right now without it? Like the above mentioned it doesn't state the CFM.

>tfw casually open games once in awhile to play with friends
>never play game by myself
>Just like building and upgrading PC

>>59834352
Thanks for the advice. I'll wait and see for the Ryzen 5 benchmarks :)

>>59833286

saved you a thousand dollars and you'll still play everything at max without being autistic

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f6bwZ8

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Should I do it?

>>59834262
You could spend $100 and you could get a graphics card that is about 5 times more powerful than the GTX260.

>>59834364
The ride never ends.

>>59834369
yw

If Ryzen doesn't have an integrated graphics card, what happens if your dedicated GPU shits the bucket? Will you not see anything on the display? How do things like HDMI ports on the mobo work if you don't have integrated graphics? I'm assuming that's what they're for.

>>59834177

>$60

>>59834209

>$65

the fucking hooplah and articles was at $50 not fucking 60 or 65 or 70 which is what its going for

>>59834394
Pull the trigger, sell the GPU, wifi adapters, and peripherals, and use that money to upgrade your GPU.

thoughts on build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dcJnr7

>>59834215
This seems accurate.
But the text looks fuzzy like it's saved to jpeg when it's a png.

ONLY comparing performance/$ in cinebench is bad, though.
Either remembers that or combine performance of like cinebench, linux compile, photoshop filter application, ray tracing, AoTS and GoW 4 CPU-only render test, or whatever other gaming benches have a CPU only mode.

The last paragraph in the middle-right is too wordy.
And really it misses the bigger point:
AM4 platform will be around for 2020+ while LGA1151 is being phased out already after only a year and a half.
The 7700k doesn't even reach 144fps minimum for the majority of newer games like Watch Dogs 2, GTAV, BF1 multiplayer, and so on. Those games max it out while the 1600X and 1800X have power to spare and just aren't utilized well yet.

NZXT S340 or Fractal Design Define S?

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What are /pcbg/'s thoughts on AIO coolers? Thinking of getting pic related because the aesthetic is fucking gorgeous, but primarily because I heard that AIO coolers are whisper quiet. Should I just stick with aftermarket fans? (212 EVO at the moment, ordered Ryzen and am hearing great things about the stock fan) Never used an AIO though, so not sure how to go about it in terms of what to expect and maintenence of it.

>>59834413
Yes, you won't see anything. The ports are for future APUs that'll come out later this year.

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>>59834394
>dude doesn't even know how to take a screenshot
Reason enough not to do it.

>>59834416
Who cares? There is nothing that even comes close at $65 right now. You're acting like the whole thing is invalidated as a budget option because of a $15 dollar swing when it's not on sale.

>>59834440
Pretty interchangeable, just whichever style you like better at that point.

>>59834329
>>59834352

If this is the same fan I found a page with more detail. My airflow is okay at the moment but I feel like I could do better. My i5 6600k is at high 50s low 60s under load at stock speed and voltages. My 1060 6g (Gigabyte) reaches high 60s low 70s under load at stock.
(https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8r9KHx/noctua-case-fan-nfp14sredux1500pwm)

>>59834403
>You could spend $100 and you could get a graphics card that is about 5 times more powerful than the GTX260.
$100 cards don't run Civ VI well

>>59834444
I don't like them, because 90% of them perform worse than a big air cooler while costing more, being less reliable, etc.

There are some okay ones, but meh.

>>59834462
So 78 CFM? Sounds pretty good.

>>59834479
There were lots of RX470 in the $110-$130 range the past week.
A little more than a week ago, some people were even getting them for $85 with some hoops.

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>>59833183
Hello /pcbg/, will Z270 GAMING M7 motherboard fit in my Corsair 200r case?

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>>59834444
>primarily because I heard that AIO coolers are whisper quiet
They're usually louder than high quality air coolers as well as less reliable. Avoid the meme.

>>59834444
checked
AIOs take longer to get loud, but longer to quiet down. It's a good investment, considering anything 240mm+ can cool pretty much anything

>>59834491
>RX 470
I got an ASUS ROG Strix for $120 today. Microcenter had five of 'em in stock.

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>>59834497
Here's the pic of the motherboard

>>59834394
I wouldn't buy it for games. Decent office computer for that price. That CPU is end of life for games, it can still play games today, but it's already 5 years old, it will increasingly show its age as time goes on, GPU is worthless for games nowadays.

>>59834521
are you trolling? no office pc would ever have anything stronger than a shitty i5

>>59834537
It's $400, how much lower do you think a used system with an ivy bridge i5 is going to be? Not very much much less.

My mATX Gigabyte gaming-3 should be coming soon. How do I update it to the lastest revision?

>>59834453
For the longest time I knew APU as "Arithmetic Processing Unit"

Anyways, the moral is that if you own a ryzen cpu you should be plugging all of your displays into the graphics card? Does the HDMI port on the mobo even offer any functionality? Can it be directed as an output for the dedicated GPU?

Does anybody have recommendations for putting a fileserver together?
I really don't want to have to drop $300-400 on everything just to have a machine to hold files

>>59834595
Get a cloud service.

>>59834578
Yeah the MB ports are basically useless. No I don't think you can

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Hey can someone help me out here.
I'm looking to buy a new Video Card today or tomorrow.
looking to spend 400 and under.
looking at 8gb 480s and 8gb 1060s.
Can someone help me look on Newegg.ca for the best card in that price.


wifes bum pic for the help =D

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>>59834497
As long as they are mid tower or full tower atx cases

>>59834753
MUH DICK

>>59834753
Don't fall for the SLI/Crossfire meme. The best card in your price range in a single 1070 unless you want to wait a month or more for vega to come out.

>>59834753
>8GB 1060
That doesnt exist.
https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/YpH48d

>>59833353
Where are you getting it from?

I think I want that same AB350M ASRock mATX, but it's not on Newegg.

>>59834787
Oh didn't see that you were canadian. With your prices you best going with a 8gb 480, although they are doing a refresh in a few weeks or so, but it won't much much better than the 480 that is already out.

what's a solidly midtier gpu? i'm not looking for the top of the line, but im not also buy the cheapest shit out there

>>59834855
gtx 1050ti

comfy as fuck

>>59834855
RX470 4GB will play pretty much all games at 1080p 60fps min at max or near max settings.

If you need more VRAM for mods and shit, or higher resolution textures, then the RX480 8GB.

>>59834885
the 1050Ti is more expensive than the RX470 usually are, and the RX470 is 40-50% faster.
1050Ti is only for mITX builds.

>>59834787
What's wrong wtih SLI/Crossfire?

>>59834885
>>59834906
I was recommended a 4GB RX-480, how does that compare to those?

this is the specific card
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6898TW/gigabyte-radeon-rx-480-40gb-g1-gaming-video-card-gv-rx480g1-gaming-4gd

>>59834497
yes.

how long till ryzen 5 now?

>>59834936
The biggest problem is that not all games support it, and in that case you might as well only have 1 of the 2 GPUs you bought. Then you have microstutter, vastly increased power usage and heat. Overall not worth it, always go for the single best GPU can afford.

>>59834855
>>59835001
It depends on how much you want to spend. If you have around $200 to spend, get this.
https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-Graphics-Graphic-11260-20-20G/dp/B06VSWDK2H/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1491877826&sr=1-8&keywords=rx+480+8gb.

would buying a 32inch tv be better for pc gaming?

>>59834936
Not all games support them, and SLI often causes microstutter last I'm aware.

>>59835125
Better implies that you're comparing something against something else senpaitachi

>>59835146
better than getting a monitor

>>59835125
>Better
In general I would say no, but you'd have to give an example of resolution vs viewing distance at least.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8xprXH

I've been here slowly tweaking my build today and I think this is 95% there. I just need to pick peripherals, a monitor, and an HDD. I'm pretty sure the RAM is "Ryzen compatible" and if it isn't, it should be after BIOS updates. The Taichi is gonna be a bitch to track down, but it seems to be exactly what I want.

So what's a good 7200RPM, 2TB 3.5" HDD? I liked Hitachis because the price/GB ratio was fantastic but all the review say they're loud. I want to forget my computer can even make noise and while the R5 might work to mitigate it, it might not be worth the risk. WD has a great reputation but they're more expensive than everything else in the bracket.

Also, any good recommendations on an Optical Drive? I had a huge DVD and Blu-Ray collection and would like to be able to use them with my PC.

Should I get a 80+ Bronze 500W PSU or a 80+ Gold 550W PSU for my new Ryzen machine?

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>>59835182
a 27 inch monitor at 1080p or a 32 inch tv at 1080p

viewing distance of 4-7 feet

>>59835162
That's still very vague. First of all what are your components, specifically GPU. Then what sort of monitor: 1080p? 1440p? 2k? 4k? What refresh rate: 60hz? 120? 144? Higher? Now for the 32 in tv, the same questions apply including response time which is frequently a problem when using tvs as monitors.

We can't read your mind.

>>59835195
Are you the same guy that won't edit the RX480 price in PC picker to show the lower price it is elsewhere that they plan to get?

>>59835215
Gold hardly costs more. Can get a good Seasonic 550W gold for $60-$70. Is easily worth it.

>>59835222
Are you doing one of those "build a pc that i can use while being a couch potato" things?

>>59835222
32" is pretty crap for 4-7 feet away. You're buying some turbo garbage.

>>59833286
Get better faster RAM if your going to be paying that much. If you want to have hotter components in that ugly cheap airflow case, be my guest. I really dont reccomend resolution before refresh rate, either: go 144 hz 1440p.

>>59835255
Does this sate your autism?

>>59835195 (Updated List)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DKfh8K

>>59835233
my b my b . im still very ignorant on this sort of thing.


a 27 inch monitor at 1080p 60hz or a 32 inch tv at 1080p also at 60hz

rx 480 gpu , probably getting a ryzen 1600 for a processor . 12gb ram. 1tb hdd. 250gb ssd

>>59835258
nah this is just hypothetical. i havent built anything yet. im just seeing my options. i figure from your responses i should just find a good freesync monitor

>>59835125
A generic monitor will have a lower input lag time than any TV.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4KzksJ


waiting for vega

>>59835195
Here's my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nrF4hq

Hey which lineup of EVGAs GPUs was it that their garbo backplates overheated? Was it SC?

>>59835334
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nrF4hq
Looks cool to me. Good luck getting a Taichi. I don't know how often these things are shipped but hopefully you and I can get in on the next batch.

Have you used a Hitachi HDD before?

And what drew you to that monitor in particular?

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What are some nice black and white cases that aren't over 200$?

>>59835008
Comes out tomorrow famalam.

>>59835397
is there a midnight release

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>>59835369
Check out Phanteks cases. Quality build, sexy designs, and fair prices. The only downfall is that their windows are scratch magnets, but a lot of cases suffer this issue. There are some glass and non window variants if that annoys you. Most are sub $200.

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Are there any performance upgrades I can get from this if I only want to spend $800? Mostly for gaming at 1440p. Will consider changing to Ryzen 5 depending on how benchmarks/prices go.
Thanks.

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My bitch's new i7. What do you guys think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7rdxjc

>>59835445
>locked 7700
>unlocked board
but why

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s there a better mATX case than the Fractal Design Define Mini C?

>>59835419
>Are there any performance upgrades I can get from this if I only want to spend $800
Yes, get a 1500X instead. It's the same price but better and has a better stock fan.

>>59835459
Is*

>>59835445
no seagate

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When does ddr5 RAM come out for consumers? can we expect it around 2020?

Also, how many years does it take to merit building an entirely new build from scratch if all you do is gayming and CAD work?

>>59835467
>>59835419
Thanks my dude. Can anyone give me a basic gestalt on the dual channel memory meme? I'd prefer 1x 8GB for price and I've read that real world performance difference is nonexistent.

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>cases with vertical motherboard placement

Directly into trash.

>>59835363
>used a hitachi before
Yes. They are extremely reliable.
>why am i getting that monitor
Cheap 1080p monitor with over 60Hz. Thats pretty good.

>>59835497
It will probably be in servers around 2020, don't expect it in consumer stuff till 2022-2024.

>>59835497
As many as it takes until you can't run your gayms and CAD applications to the standard you want? You're always going to get a more powerful PC for the same money the longer you wait, so it's always better to wait.

>>59835457
The bitch needs no overclock. I just choose this board because of some features, the price and the chipset.

>>59835532
>Hitachi are extremely reliable
sourced from your asshole I'm assuming?

How are Ryzen temps compared to Kabylake? Would they be suitable in a mITX build? Would an AMD GPU?

>>59835489
Why not? I have this exactly HDD model in my machine for years. Never had any problems. No bad blocks, no nothing. It's a good product.

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Will this run on a Ryzen 5 1400 or 1500X? Bought this and will be buying Ryzen tonight and need to know if I fucked up. Pic related is the RAM.

(https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R2VBD3/gskill-memory-f42400c15d16gvb)

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>>59835540
>some features
Like what?
>the price
But it's more expensive than locked options?
>the chipset
But that doesn't really matter if you're not overclocking?

>>59835532
>>59835550

HGST are premium quality and have data-center level reliability. Consumer Hitachi is dog shit tier (different factory), and you're opting for the >3tb size.

enjoy the CLICK CLICK CLICK lol

>>59835445
Retarted/10
>locked CPU
>unlocked mobo
>hdd is not the best one for price/gb
>wtf is that gaymen case
>>corsair builder PSU, not gold rated or seasonic
>getting an optical drive after 2015
>again, youve been memed. That monitor is horrible for that price.
>good job on keyboard, but that mouse looks like garbage

>>59835562
Because you can get other manufactures for the same price. Search HDD manufactures by failure rate and see Seagate come dead last by a considerable margin.

>>59835585
>gold certified PSU recommended for consumer use
I really, really like this meme.

So R5 is today, right?

>>59835580
This is HGST. Check the fucking link. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LYVD7ME/?tag=pcpapi-20
>oh fuck just realized its refurbished wat do

>>59835524
Dual channel definitely affects performance.

But if you plan to upgrade to 2x8GB later, then just get the 1 8GB now.

>>59835540
>The bitch needs no overclock
That's not what I said.
It's just you're paying more for that motherboard chipset when you could get B250.

>>59835560
>How are Ryzen temps compared to Kabylake? Would they be suitable in a mITX build?
As long as you stay under 1.275v, it's anywhere from 1.25-1.5x the perf/watt. So, massively better.

>Would an AMD GPU
RX400 series, no. Not unless you get the XFX GTR RX480 and undervolt it a little.
But it looks like RX500 is on a more power efficient process and would be.
You might want the 1050Ti for mITX, but it's not nearly as powerful. So just wait for RX570 or RX580.

>>59835270
100hz and 144hz you wont notice the difference

Hey what is this single rank dual rank RAM goyim trap bullshit marketers are pushing

>>59835621
With a B250 I'll have no Intel® Smart Response Technology available.

what graphics card do i need to run games at 1440p on ultra?

Current system is

i5 3570k
gtx670

thinking of 1060 or 1070?

>>59835621
I kept that in mind but I could just as easily go to 4x 4GB. Got any sources on dual channel improving gaming/consumer performance because I can't find shit.

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>>59835566
>will this ram stick run on my cpu

Two issues, anon. First, I assume you aren't plugging those ram sticks into a slot on your cpu. Surely you intend to insert those ram sticks into a slot on your motherboard. Perhaps it would be wise to check the website of your motherboard manufacturer to find your actual board and see if it mentions your specific ram sticks as compatible. And lastly, why 2400 ram and not something 3000 or higher, anon? If your motherboard can accept higher ram speeds than 2400, I recommend going with something faster.

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>>59835669

>>59835683
1070 or 1080, not sure
>>59835691
Meh wouldnt it be pointless for him to get over 2666 with current RAM issues?

>>59835708
>current RAM issues

Explain

>>59835691
>Surely you intend to insert those ram sticks into a slot on your motherboard
You know what I mean, smartass. I've heard that Ryzen has been having problems with RAM so I was wondering if that RAM would work in tandem with a Ryzen CPU. I only got 2400mhz because it was the cheapest 16GB kit around.

>>59835728
Have you been living under a rock Patrick? Or you just another AMDrone shill?

Any anons know a nice 4k monitor, around 30in preferable for around 300ish? I don't need professional color and I'll only be casually gaming every now and then, really just looking to add some screen real estate for music production. Preferably matte over glossy, and I don't mind Korean panels or whatever

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>>59835754
>PC building advice thread
>asks for advice on a current issue
>"LOL U DON'T ALREADY NO ABOUT THIS CURRENT ISSUE?"

>>59835730
A lot of boards have been getting updates that allow for faster ram to be possible. When researching a board, I'd suggest seeing if it has a bios update.

>>59835560
Lower

>>59835765
Two monitors is still better for work desu~

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>>59835784
>confirmed /v/ fag. Go back where you came from.

>>59835785
What's the worse that can happen with incompatible RAM on a Ryzen CPU though?

>>59835784
>Guy giving "advice" on a subject he knows nothing about making his shitty advice turn into just plain ol' shitposts.

Just Google shit. Ryzen is new and MOBO manufacturers are slowly working on getting them to work with higher speed RAM.

>>59835809
It would go as fast as 2666 max. Worst case scenario is your system wont POST.

>>59835754
Or you can just buy a ram module with samsung chips so you can oc it

>>59835809
You get the lowest speed that ddr4 is rated for
I haven't heard of a severe incompatibility that made a board not POST

>>59835801
I know, but for a number of reasons both practical and preference one monitor would be a lot better for me right now

>>59835819
I'm afraid of the worst case scenario is all. I can easily just get some new RAM but I don't want to break my system.
>>59835830
Ok that's all I was worried about. I can always get better RAM later anyways since its super easy to upgrade.

>>59833838
Powerline only works in very new houses with good wiring, especially if you care about latency. In a huge number of houses, WiFi is still a far better choice.

>AMD 1700
>Gigabyte AX370-Gaming 5
>16G of whatever RAM
>m.2 SSD probably

Is this good for a Jack of All Trades computer? I do a bit of video/image editing and play some video games, planning on sizing GPU's later, probably just use my current one for a bit longer.

>>59835900
yes its good

>>59835900
The expensive motherboard is probably excessive.
You sacrifice nothing except 2 PCIe lanes and SLI with a B350.

If I want to run 2 GPU but not in crossfire, can this be done in a b350 motherboard?
Also, how is overclocking on the b350 platform, similar or a bit more dicey?

>>59836049
So in SLI? Or no SLI/crossfire at all? How would that even work?

>>59835809
You won't be able to shitpost in infinite number of threads, but instead will be forced to close each tab before opening new one.

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I'm trying to pick out a cooler to use for my 1600X build.

I'm looking for a down blower, probably 120mm since they cool VRM and RAM much better, and I like how they look more.

-C7 might not cool quite enough, with just a 92mm fan. Fine for stock, but I might OC.
-NH-L9i might be okay. Seems good for a 92mm model. Still really expensive and I'd prefer 120mm.
-Cooler Master GeminII M4 is apparently garbage, like most Cooler Master coolers.
-Scythe Shuriken 2 (picture related) seems ideal! ... but they aren't making fucking AM4 mounts for them...
-NH-12 Seems the heat sink performance is exactly the same as the Scythe Shuriken 2, and fan it comes with is better... only it is a lot larger, and doesn't look nearly as aesthetic. It's tall as well. I guess I could just put one large fan underneath instead of the dual fan thing.. but meh. I especially don't like how uneven it looks.

Is there anything else like the Shuriken 2 that's under $50? Preferably more like $35.
Needs to fit to AM4, obviously.

>>59836049
Some B350 do support Crossfire, as far as I'm aware, yes. Just not SLI.
>how is overclocking on the b350 platform
Entirely depends on how good the VRMs are. 5 phases can be okay if they're good digital ones. Otherwise 6 or 7, at least. You have to look up overclocking review for the particular boards you're considering.
A lot of overclocking records were set on the B350s initially.

Any more sexy as fuck mATX mini tower cases?

>>59836110
I think he means using one card for something, while having the other card dedicated to doing something else in the same computer, and yes you can in fact Ryzen is the best processor to this since all cores have no utilization and does jack shit with one GPU so there shouldn't be any problem.

>>59835965
>>59835900
imo, you might as well put money into your motherboard. You will be using that motherboard for as long as you're using that CPU.

I need a good case to fit all my current parts in, I'm due a new one because I feel the one I have is too small.
I want a case that has great cable management, spacious enough for my CPU Cooler and must have good airflow.
I have a budget of like £150.
Also, I'd like for it to be preferrably a mid tower, maybe a full one if you guys give some good choices.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7YhjCy

>>59836254
X370 is in no way better if you're not actually using those 2 extra PCIe lanes.

Some B350 boards overclock and perform better than many X370 ones.

>>59833183
>yesterday thread said get Ryzen 5 instead of i5
>Last thread said don't get Ryzen 5 or i5, get i7
>Now this thread says get Ryzen 5 instead of i5 again
Make up your fucking minds already, don't pull this flip-flopping bullshit on us.

>>59836296
>great cable management
>spacious enough for my CPU Cooler
>good airflow
>a mid tower

You just described Fractal Design's Define R5. It is an extraordinary case. I own it and the Fractal Design Define Mini C (microATX). Both cases are just brilliant.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/nwVBD3/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr5bko

https://youtu.be/H4tHXx7RRAI

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>>59836349
do your own research instead of others telling you what to do

>>59836349
Drake poster is a faggot. But he makes the threads like half the time.

>>59836362
>Fractal Design's Define R5 Blackout edition

Also comes in a less costly standard edition (with white-bladed fans instead of black)

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/sjX2FT/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr5bk

>>59836362
God bless Anon

>>59836327
Interested in this. What boards are looking good for overclocking? Digging around on userbenchmarks has shown me nothing

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>>59836203
Anyone?

>>59836601
Haha benis :DD

>>59834155
Jonsbo is supposed to be opening up US distribution Real Soon Now™

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>>59836349

>>59836824
decent enough edit. At least you put the effort of drawing the armband on and it applies to the situation at hand

6/10 you memes pretty well

>>59836755
Whao really?

Thanks for the news.
I almost bought one imported for like $200+ but meh. My current case is fine except for the lack of dust filters.

whats a good modem to buy? been leasing one from TWC for like 6 years now, dont wanna lease anymore

>>59836694
More importantly. What is that dog doing in the background?

>>59836986
Just go to your local Best Buy, Office Depot, or Fry's and pick a modern-looking Linksys with at least 3 antennas

Hey does anybody have any experience w

>>59837007
Probably part of the joke. Humping some slut?

>>59837026
Didnt finish typing before auto send. Hey does anybody have experience with the ZOWIE ZA11 and the Razer Deathadder Chroma/Elite? I like the feel of the ZA11, but mine broke. Can somebody tell me if the mouse sizes and feeling are similar?

>>59837007
Untying a knot.

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Super rare brand new 2009 single core. check it
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mqhmvV

>>59837049
Over priced laser mouse in 2017? ISHYGDDT...

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>>59837057

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mqhmvV

>that psu

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>>59837057

>>59837057
>>59837079
What the FUCK is that horror?

>>59837015
what are the antennas for if im going to be using an ethernet cable

Planning on physically downsizing my home server while upgrading its storage. The plan is to keep my current mobo, CPU, and RAM employed, while everything else gets rebuilt around it. This current build is just my retired primary desktop.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CdXY7h

>What I already have from that list that is getting gutted from my current server:
CPU, mobo, RAM, SSD, optical drive

>What I plan on buying listed there:
cooler, HDDs, case/PSU

>Why I'm keeping the old-ass hardware:
rock-solid Phenom II, my power bills are tiny, and Plex transcoding needs more than an old laptop

>Why I'm not sticking with what I have:
big-ass fugly case and having only 1 5TB Seagate drive scares me every time I think about it

Thoughts?

>>59837074
>ISHYGDDT
>2017
shiggy shiggy ding dong

>>59837049
The mouse size is perfect on the ZA11, i just want to know how good the deathadder elite is as a replacement.

>>59837170
Depending on the case I wouldn't worry about an aftermarket cooler. Should be fine on stock especially with stock speeds, if not then I would just underclock. I'm not too familiar with that case so hard to be sure but you should be fine
2 drives are great, I have 8 of them running in my server
What do you intend to do with the drives? Some kind of raid? If so you should really consider a controller, otherwise why 2 drives?
What os? That's more just me wondering though

>>59837252
Aftermarket cooler is probably for noise and the case is pretty big for what it is. I don't think it'll be a problem. You just gonna tape the SSD somewhere or what? Not that it's a problem really.

>>59837294
>noise
>server
Not even trying to shit post noise shouldn't matter on a server, just put it somewhere away from where you work/relax/sleep, problem solved

>>59837252
I still have the stock cooler in a bin. It got noisy so long ago and has been replaced by bigger beefier heatsinks that keep it cold.
Mobo is capable of RAID 1, that's my plan. I've somehow never done it before. If that doesn't work out, then I have no problem shelling out for a dedicated controller.
Currently running Win7, because X4 and light work means I don't give a fuck about overhead. Previous servers ran Debian, and I wouldn't really object to going back to it.

>>59837294
>You just gonna tape the SSD somewhere or what
Actual InWin site lists off 2 3.5" bays and 1 2.5" bay. Somehow. If that's untrue, then yeah, it gets stuffed somewhere.

>>59837317
Forgot to say that it's tucked up into a closet. Noise really isn't as big of a problem as heat. The current cooler is fuckhuge, only reason it's staying below 30C.

>>59837321
>motherboard raid
Save yourself now, don't go down that path. Trust me, do some quick googling and you'll see what I mean
>>59837336
>below 30c
Those Temps are fantastic, Jesus I wouldn't worry unless the Temps were north of 50ish regularly. What cooler is on there now? I've got a phenom II x2 running with a stock cooler in another server and I've never seen it stay above 50 for more than a few minutes.
OS is cool. Might want to go back to Debian, it has a bit more in the feature department for raid and storage server potential Afaik, but if win 7 is easier then it doesn't matter
Ain't broke dont fix it

>>59833865
>How long till cases start adopting front panel type C in mass?
never
it's even more brittle than fucking microusb

>>59837387
I always hear about getting dedicated controllers anyway, so I'll heed this advice.
Current cooler is the ARCTIC Freezer 7 Pro rev 2. Bought one for a friend recently as well since his stock fan was too noisy. Previous one was some no-name "Delux Infinity TwinTower" I only found at Micro Center and has since disappeared. Fan itself needs replacing, but it kept just as cool if not cooler than that Arctic one.
I love me some Debian, but I've never worked with it on a desktop. Just tons of old laptops. Would be interesting to try out.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Permafrost/saved/mLhmP6
>got the powersupply for free
should i upgrade anything ? i was thinking of ryzen/vega machine later this year

>>59837451
>it's even more brittle than fucking microusb
That's not true! That's impossible!

>>59837537
Why are you spending $190 on a motherboard when you can get a good b350 board + cpu for just $100 more?

>>59837537
Why get a Z series board for a non-OC CPU?
Also why buy an old intel not used?
You can even get the 4960K for under $200 on ebay

>>59837593
got these back in 2014 and got the cpu+motherboard for a deal at FRYS forgot to add
>>59837597
refer to above.
my bad for not adding previous info

>>59837751
>got these back in 2014 and got the cpu+motherboard for a deal at FRYS forgot to add
So sell them and get Ryzen now instead before they depreciate more.
AM4 platform will be around for a while and you can't use that DDR3 RAM you'd be wasting money on.

Here is a build for around 1k euro. Ryzen 5 is like only 100 euro cheaper so I don't know if it's worth it.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/mzGc7h

>>59833254
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ

>>59837958
>https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/mzGc7h
you should get faster memory for ryzen, like at least 2800+

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/npNgHN

Anything wrong with this? I have 7200rpm drives to drop in from my old build

>>59837993
>you should get faster memory for ryzen, like at least 2800+
what new meme is this

>>59838025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G80uG3acg44
>>59838005
looks fine

>>59837170
spend the spare money on beer.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qt4BJV

Anything wrong with the EVGA G1 PSUs? I know that johnnyguru is a big proponent of the G2 but is it super enthusiast stuff, and is the G1 fine?

>>59838025
What's new about it? It's been known since day1.

Intel CPUs scale well with memory too in lots of games, but Intel locks better memory to Z270 boards, so it's not like you could get better performance from better memory even if you wanted to on their platform.

However with Ryzen, you can get a cheap B350 board and still benefit from 3200mhz, or potentially higher, memory.

So whats the best CPU Cooler that's around 120 burgers or less? Is a closed circuit water cooler really better or should i just choose a very high end air cooler?

>>59837958
mindfactory.de has free shipping if you order from midnight to 6am. Pcpartpicker doesn't take this into account and only shows amazon prices (more expensive). You can save at least 50€ that way.

>>59838140
depends on you cpu, you don't realy need an AIO watercooler, unless you have a very hot chip (115W +), or are running a high oc on a ~90W chip

>>59838087
>spare money
While that case looks good and fits my needs, and I'm sure the cheaper cooler is just fine, the tradeoff is having to buy a separate PSU instead. The old RAM stays, even though keeping all 16GB is unneccesary. That case doesn't seem to have an external 3.5" bay either. I still use mine in the current setup for a card reader, if you can believe that. The input is still greatly appreciated, as I just like seeing how other people go about building their own PCs.

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Any comments, suggestions or needless hate on this?

>>59838189
Ah thanks, I have a 6700k and was wondering whether I should upgrade my cooler as it gets a little hot during high usage
>>59838212
>that 20tb HDD

>>59838212
>all that money
>only 4 threads to show for it
nice bait, faggot

>>59838212
Don't get an 240mm AIO watercooler for an i5.
Some 30-50dollar tower will do just fine. And if you still want water, just get a smaller one

>>59838221
I just cant trust AMD again man I'm sorry.

>>59838212
>20tb HDD
>Muh p0rn collection

>>59838234
nah.
240 will have better resale. Also they're not much more for the extra cooling.

>>59833286
>Z270 Pro
>70 dollar case
>EVGA 650W
>Wi-Fi adapter without AC
how the fuck was this 3000$. This build is awful

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>>59838140
There's a lot of them in the $60-$90 range that are good as far as big air coolers go.

I'm getting the C1 for my 1600X build, which is probably huge overkill. But intel CPUs run much hotter, so it's on the more moderate end for them.
You can get double or triple fan big tower coolers or massive heatsinks that cool better.

>>59838212
You dont need a watercooler with an i5. Get a motherboard that's not ASRock. Don't get 64 GB of 2800 RAM. Don't spend 160$ on an 850W PSU.

>>59838253

Partly but also movies, tv shows and my music folder is already almost 2 TB's on it's own. i go through a lot of media and even though I delete a lot of it after use/viewing I cant get through it all at once.

I'm always surprised by how little space most people buy on build sites, but maybe I'm the crazy one.

>>59838280
asrock is fine
just dont get a niggabyte board cause shitty BIOS

>>59838295
I hope you know how to RAID that 20TB of data.

>>59838297
ASRock is ASUS' budget board. Just get Asus if you're spending hundreds to begin with.

>>59838212
Suggestions
Consider going with 4tb drives instead of the 5tb. Iirc 5tb platters have a higher rate of failure for whatever reason. Check out the hgst nas drives. They're the same speed as typical desktop drives. With that much storage though I would just build a nas and go matx though my man.
>7600k.
I really can't recommend it, but if you're gonna you're gonna. Maybe consider buying a used 4670k if you want to overclock or going with a xeon/h series Mobo if you don't.
>2tb ssd
OK, again I get the lots of storage but unless you have a need for that much fast storage that's just passing money away. Are you working with high bitrate video footage or something?
>Dominate me ram
If you really want to literally waste the money ok. There is comparable ram for far less. Also pretty sure you don't need 64gb of ram, but I have no idea what the intended use is
If you tell me what the hell is going on here and the intended use I can maybe help you out a lot more

>>59838212
>4c/4t cpu in 2017
>not getting a ryzen 6c/12t or 8c/16t cpu

the fuck, why
went from i5 4670 to a r7 1700 and never going back to intel ever again

>>59838280
I've been thinking about scaling back on the ram to 32 as it does seem like overkill.

What is the problem with AsRock? I've never used them before but the board was rated high on a few sites. I got burned hard by Asus on my last build so I don't really know what to trust concerning that.

>>59838234
I'm buying the tower mostly for looks and the potential to have the HDD's somewhat separate from another. Space out to try and not have all that heat in one area.

>>59838309
>ASRock is ASUS' budget board.
they used to, but since 2010 they are no longer owned by asus

>>59837954
why would they deperecate?

>>59838323
I love how it's mainly the people that got jewed over with getting a 4c/4t.

Myself included. I got a 2500k. This shit was good for a while but started falling off in around 2015.
People then said HT basically did nothing, and that turning it off often improved performance. But it only took a few years for that to really start changing.
I should have just spent the extra $100 back then, and I'd probably be fine still and not need an upgrade.

>>59838361
They've held value due to Intel offering poor upgrade options. Lots of people still on those old motherboards needing a CPU who can't justify buying a new motherboard for a 15% improvement.

But Ryzen offers a 40% or 80% improvement instead.

>>59838363
2500k was god tier
also ht back then was way worse than it is now

>>59838363
not only are 4 cores not enough anymore, but the fact that you have to pay an EXTRA arbitrary amount of money just to overclock was a huge dealbreaker for me (probably would have waited for zen+ if I could OC it)

meanwhile I got an AMD 8 core and can overclock it out of the box, with the stock cooler, to 3.8ghz from the stock 3.0! so of course I'm not going to support the kind of business practices intel exercises anymore

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>>59838390
me too

>>59838333
No. Get 3200 CAS RAM. doesnt matter how much you get. you only need 16GB, anything higher is overkill. ASRock has a history of being cheaply made, but that might have changed in the past few years. You can go with MSI if you don't trust ASUS.

>>59838405
my nigga

>>59838316
I'll take the HD suggestion into account concerning 5's. I'm going with the 2tb because game installs are getting absurdly large already and I don't see people's 500 and 256's GB's lasting for very long concerning that when some games already have a 50 GB install.

I'm already going to scale back the ram, again I was trying to think a bit ahead with 64 but I'll probably have this current comp for a while. So maybe it's wrong to jump that high at this point.

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>>59838390
>4 cores not enough anymore
oh mah cores

>"Yeah, it will take us at least a month to start shipping Ryzen 5, probably longer"
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
I can't wait more than a month before I have a working PC again.
Looks like I'll have to shell out for i7 7700K and I'm not happy about that. Unless of course I can ship it in from somewhere abroad.

>>59838425
If I was you I would save some money now and go with a 512gb m.2 for >sick speeds or a 1tb ssd and save some cash and get a 1080ti instead. Ssd keep getting cheaper, you can always add another drive my man

>>59838390
Yeah. If you could get an unlocked pentium for cheap, and B250 supported faster RAM, none of this would be a problem.
But Intel creates and artificial market to make the 7700k seem worth it by having a bunch of gimped CPUs below it.

Adding HT doesn't cost much.
2 more cores when a ton of die area is taken up by cache and an iGPU already doesn't cost much.\
I imagine the G4560 costs something like $30 to produce, while the 7700k is probably in the $65-$80 range to produce.

Intel could have just been selling 4c/8t at reasonable prices for years, and could have made B250-equivolent socket not shit for years just like how B350 isn't shit, but they're jews.

>>59838436
I guess I could isolate the part that has broken, but man, I had this PC for 6+ year already, I was looking for buying a new one.

Would you recommend me waiting like 1-2 months for this processor? Will it be worth it?

>>59838453
If CPUs were so cheap to manufacture, and there's two competing major brands, why doesn't AMD just sell their processors for nearly around the actual cost and just completely envelop the market due to being cheap and effective enough? Your logic is flawed. Intel doesn't just artificially spike prices because "they're jews". It's a competitive market and their CPUs are made of expensive materials and expensive engineering teams.

>>59838434
yeah, they aren't, I play 7 days to die with friends and on my i5, playing + hosting on the same machine resulted in 90-100% cpu usage all the time, fps drop spikes, general shit performance and other issues

meanwhile on my 1700 I can host, play and record in x264, and the cpu usage never goes above 60%

so yes, the extra cores help a lot, eat shit

>>59838486
amd did sell their fx cpus at manufacturing price

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As a preface, I'm tech retarded, but I already ironed out my retarded CPU choice by reading this thread (sadly waiting for the R5 isn't an option).

Am I not overspending on that motherboard?
I'm probably overspending on the power supply, but from what I've heard there are sites that can find you a fitting one after you input all the parts, which I'm going to use once I'm finished with my list.

As for the GPU I was thinking about GTX1060-6GB / RX480 8GB. Which of those 2 would you recommend?

>>59838721
>waiting for the R5 isn't an option
>>59833525
>Ryzen 5 gonna be released today

>>59838748
See >>59838436

>>59838486
>why doesn't AMD just sell their processors for nearly around the actual cost and just completely envelop the market
lmao?
They did, you tard.
They were selling Vishera for $90-$135 and including Ashes of the Singularity

Those cost about what a 7700k to make (larger manufacturing process) and they sold them for 1/3rd the cost.

These Ryzen CPUs likely cost less than a 7700k to make thanks to the smaller manufacturing process. That's how they can undercut and still make a good profit.

>>59838721
>waiting
>IT'S LITERALLY RELEASED TODAY
But your build isn't too bad. Major problems are that I don't think those particular SSDs are reliable, and that shit 2133mhz RAM.
Did you forget the cooler, too?
>Am I not overspending on that motherboard?
Not really. You need at least a $140 Z270 motherboard to equal the sort of overclocking you get from a $85 B350. That's just how it is because of Intel licensing fees on their chipsets. That's a decent one.

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>>59838982
>>59838982