Pyra

>>59747449
>going to be faster than anything else we have right now
>the GPD Win exists
Pick one

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>>59747461
the first one

>>59747461
>gpd win
Not that chink shill shit again

>ARM
stopped reading there

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>>59747449
It's not even a UMPC. For $600 I could get two GPD Wins or a GPD Pocket.

>>59747486
It can run anything like what the OpenPandora can, many x86 games got ported onto it, it could also run wine

>>59747496
Pls stop shill

>>59747498
it's literally useless, you can't even play Witcher 3 on it

>>59747508
>mobile lower power must be as good as high end desktops
This is a tech board, stop being a tech illiterate or fuck off

>>59747504
>discussing a commercial tech product on a tech board is shilling
ebin

>>59747544
>every day there is a thread or two with posts how great the win is
makes you think

>>59747449
This has to be a joke

>>59747588
I'm not denying that there are people shilling it, but you can't just go blindly calling everyone who brings it up a shill. I'm just some guy who browses /g/ talking about a relevant device I want in a thread.

>>59747449
Do want! I always wished for a up to date UMPC

>>59747659
What's a shill though? Someone who is payed to market it or just fanboys who like to talk about their device?
I don't think the second one should be considered shilling and I'm pretty sure chinks don't give a fuck about us to come shill it here (their main market is still China) like EA games or Nintendo does on /v/.

>>59747659
k

>>59747683
The prior, I wouldn't doubt that GPD's got legitimate shills here.

>>59747686
kk

>>59747690
I think youre just confusing them with retarded fanboys

>>59747730
Some of them seem pretty obvious, could be fanboys though

>>59747737
I have seen Pocket threads though that present the device like the OP here and that is quite suspicious

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>>59747496
Why do you need two GPD WIns?

>>59747844
I don't, the point was that I could buy two better systems for the price of the Pyra

>yfw you realize that /g/ is where pop-up chink brands come to advertise, for free
>no accounts to be banned
>no usernames
>just shilling bliss

Fuck off, fuck off and take your disgusting chink shit LE QUIRKY XD looking toy with you.

>>59747878
Wut, the Pyra is German/British

>>59747882
Pretty sure the British dude fucked off before the Pyra was even an idea.

>>59747901
Dunno, I just based it on the fact that it's the successor to OpenPandora

>>59747901
Still not a chink project

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>>59747449
>Backlit keyboard
>The Most feature-rich ultra portable Mini Computer

>>59747937
>backlit keyboard
>bad

>>59747910
Yeah, Craig has never been a part of the Pyra. EvilDragon is the one in charge.
>>59747912
To be honest I didn't look at what the post I corrected was in reply to, I just wanted to clarify that the guy who backed out on the community with no warning isn't involved at all this time.

>>59747943
Just that they call themselves future rich because of that

Also generally it's considered a meme thing, one of the first arguments made against the MacBook Pro as a useless feature

>>59747950
>Also generally it's considered a meme thing
For desktops and laptops I agree, It's different with thumb keyboards though. You don't just pick one up and touch type like you do when going from normal keyboard to keyboard.

>>59747937
Does the Win have a backlit keyboard?
No.

>>59747966
The high quality IPS screen illuminates the keyboard though even in utter darkness.

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>>59747948
>EvilDragon
seems like /ourguy/
I know he's autistic as fuck tho

>>59747966
It's only half the price, obviously it's not a "premium" product like the Pyra

>>59747999
>premium
I don't think I've ever seen a non-backlit thumb keyboard, even $10 cellphones have them. I'm quite surprised to hear that the Win doesn't have one.

that price is absurd

>>59748042
It's a low volume run made by like 5 people and mostly produced in Germany.
You can't expect it be anywhere near as cheap as chink stuff.

>>59748007
They are also very differently engineered, it would be nice addition, but I don't think it would be feasible with the size/price point

>>59748058
How would it be difficult in either way when phones smaller and 30x cheaper do it without issue?

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>>59748058
The size of the domes would makes LEDs under the keys impossible and putting them into the corners would not carry like all over the keyboard anyways.

>>59748065
>>59748066
They could put a layer of transparent plastic under the keyboard, but that would make it thicker slightly and would need smaller domes under the keys that make it less comfortable to type on

>>59748066
You can easily fit some 0402s in there

>>59748042
>>59748057
For additional context the OpenPandora sold something like 7k-9k units in its lifetime, iirc (it's now discontinued). The low volume is also why they went with the Texas Instruments OMAP5432 for the Pyra - no one else would sell to them at the numbers they wanted and could afford.

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>>59748066
>The size of the domes would makes LEDs under the keys impossible
Not really, USB A connector for scale

>>59748098
Lot more space though

>>59748057
What practical solution are these even being made for?

All I can see is it being a ROM box and my phone does that well enough already.

It's too small to be useful for actual work, it's too expensive to replace a cheap netbook, it's basically a glorified nvidia shield.

>>59748102
What?

>>59747882
>>59747901
>>59747910
>>59747912

When will people understand that these ultra-niche little gimmick products will never work? They're tacky, disgusting and offer nothing new. Most importantly, they will make no money. This is even lower down than Kickstarter garbage.

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>>59747966
It's NOT mant as a UMPC you dip, it's a gaming device, if you want a backlit UMPC get the Pyra or Pocket

>>59747449
Stop shilling you autist.
Phones have better specs nowadays.

>>59748106
Portable gaming device/computer, can replace your phone if you get the model with the cellular radio

>>59748115
Pyra's NOT a UMPC either

>>59748106
Mostly for emulation, yes.

Important for them is that you can emulate home computers like the Amiga that need a keyboard to emulate everything.

>>59748111
OpenPandora made lots of money and GPD Pocket got $2.5mil of its $200k goal

>>59748131
Wasn't it a loss for them because the Brit fucked them?

>>59748137
What has this to do with it?
The question was if they make money, they do, people want that shit.

>"fully modular"
>proprietary modules

What's the point then? When this little amateur project tanks and I want a component I'm fucked and my burgundy netbook is useless.

>>59748147
The modules are open as fuck together with the schematics, nobody is stopping you from creating your own x86 module for it for example

>>59748147
>What's the point then?
Future proprietary upgrades.

>>59748147
But it's open.
You can download the CAD and Gerber files from their homepage.

>>59748007
How many gaming devices have them though? The Pyra is going to have one and it has a ridiculous price

>>59748125
Are you really going to replace your cellphone with a clunky gaming device?

Like, just how badly do you need to be able to play a text adventure ZX spectrum game on the bus that you need to replace your phone with one like some shadowrunner wannabe hacker?

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>>59748166

>But it's open.
>You can download the CAD and Gerber files from their homepage.

>don't worry, if you need something just make it yourself in your 3D printing facility!

Thank you for the laugh. In all seriousness though, take your fucking timesink neckbeard pacifier thumb-netbook to >>>/toy/ where it belongs.

>>59748187
Not him.

But a phone can't replace a dedicated gaming handheld

>>59748187
I only use my phone for texting and email, I'd be fine with replacing it with clunky gaming device.

>>59748178
lol poorfag

>>59748202
Nah, just stupidly overpriced if I could get a shitty chink shit like Win for half the price and it's actually more powerful

>>59748195
>can't 3d print/mill parts and etch his own pcbs

get out of my /g/

>>59748207
Not to mention the Win can play PC games

>>59747449
It's not a UMPC, even on the picture they call it a Mini Computer because they know they can't call it a UMPC.

Just how much of a shill can you be?
You can get better features in a $50 chink tablet

>>59748216
Yeah, the whole Windows software library at its disposal

>>59748222
>stop wanting shit that you like and can afford when I don't like it and/or can't afford it
k

>>59748222
Show me a $50 tablet with QWERTY keyboard, gamepad, dual SD slots, USB A, eSATAp, etc.

>>59748195
Never got it why they compare it to Tesla if Tesla is literary open source

>>59747449
Still PowerVR garbage.

Stay put for a proper RV64G solution. Not that much longer to wait.

>>59747498
You can get your own Pyra using Linux Deploy

>>59747496
>falling for the china meme
laughing_whores.jpg

>>59747449
>gaymer gimmicks
>that horrifyingly shit keyboard
>ugly, bulky cheap-ass looking enclosure
>grade-A vaporware at an exorbitant price
It's barely a UMPC, it's a fucking toy that reeks of mediocrity. Shove it up your ass and take GPDshit with you while you're at it, all of this crap is a fucking disgrace.

>>59748282
What's the problem with chink shit? Almost everything is made in China nowadays.

>>59748282
I'm not falling for any meme, I'm just excited to get a modern pocketable VAIO P.

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>>59748287
It's not a UMPC in the first place.

>>59748299
Right, so you agree with me that OP should eat a sack of cocks and fuck off?

>>59748306
Sack of cocks? No. A thousand tons of a fatasses spicy dorito shit.

>>59748306
yes

>>59747449
So i clicked for more info but all that happens is that the image get small again???

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>>59747449
What can it do that my GPD Win can't?

>>59748332
Natively run ARM software

>>59748332
not be a botnet

>>59748332
lmfao, sick icon collection

>>59748340
I actually think judging by the old ass ARM chip in the Pyra that the Win could even emulate ARM shit faster than the Pyra can run it natively.

>>59748345
I don't mind Microsoft watching me playing Harvest Moon, it's a dedicated gaming device anyways.

>>59748357
Thanks.

Should I change the icons to represent the systems the emulators emulate?

>>59748372
you were already autisitc enough to change the shortcut names to the names of the consoles emulated rather than the names of the emulators, might ad well go for it

>>59748380
Some of the names of the emulators where too retarded and if I change one I might aswell change all.
Might do it though sometime.

I would actually like a dedicated gamepad controlled launcher/frontend but all of them have some problems in one way or another.

>>59748396
first off, why if there an emulators folder on your desktop along will icons for all of those emulators

second, what is wrong with retroarch?

>>59748340
you mean that base composed almost entirely of free software that can easily be built for x86 in the extremely rare case that it hasn't been already?

>>59748403
>first off, why if there an emulators folder on your desktop along will icons for all of those emulators
For quick access to the emulator files and ROMs themselves.

>second, what is wrong with retroarch?
Haven't found it as detailed in configuration and it doesn't have all the systems I play, so I better just keep them all dedicated emulators.

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>>59748332
Ok, i'll bite.

Have a centered keyboard, remove the battery, run Linux|GNU, have battery life, modem, more SD-card slots, etc, and finally community.

All the luck to you with your win, but it is made by a company that doesn't know anything about games, and has a bad attitude towards quality control.

>>59748455
>but it is made by a company that doesn't know anything about games
GPD means Game Pad Digital tho and they always made cheap chink shit emulator devices

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>>59748360
You are wrong. And the moduleboard is, modular.
A harvest moon device and shitting streets, something in common they have.
>dedicated
>designated
Gypped Tearsonchin -The indie(trash)goer

>>59748413
I mean that the Win has an x86 CPU which means it can't run ARM binaries natively.

>>59748455
>Have a centered keyboard
I play games with it and for the rare input a game needs its efficient enough.

>remove the battery, have battery life
The 5 hours of GameCube emulation is more than enough for me personally.

>run Linux|GNU
That's a con not a pro for a gaming device.

>modem
Modem is 100€ extra and again, gaming device.

>more SD-card slots
I already have 430GB of space on it, I don't think it's a problem.

>and finally community.
Huge and growing daily, not surprised if it has outgrown Panora/Pyras already.

Not to mention the size of the much bigger library of games and emulators the Pyra can't do.

I'm not saying the Pyra is bad, just seems a worse device for me personally.

>>59747449
>build in gamepad
Into the trash it goes

>>59748488
>And the moduleboard is, modular
Call me back when it has a x86 module that is at least as powerful as the shitty Atom in the Win.
Except obviously it can't do that because they haven't accounted for cooling on the modules.

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>>59747449

>>59748546
>Piss-Dora
Just realized it literally is the fedora of handhelds

>>59748455
>but it is made by a company that doesn't know anything about games
yet they have better dpad and sticks then the pyra

>>59747449
>ancient CPU, released in 2013
>only 2gb ram
>ARM instead of x86
>resistive touchscreen
>600€
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>59748585

>>59747449
Fucking hell this makes even the gpd win seem like a superb device

>>59747449
Who though the keyboard layout is a good idea?

>>59747449
no 4G?

>>59747991
I've seen a few of his videos, a lot more thought put into the pyra's construction too bad it cannot even hope to contend with the gpd win.

I like how the keyboard is less cramped with power button out of reach instead of next to the fucking volume button, the thumbsticks actually click, and you get 3 SD card slots which can easily give you 1TB of storage, along with simcard/LTE modem for making calls and remote internet access. Upgradeable and easy to disassemble as well apparently but I wouldn't put much faith in upgrading it.

gpd Win has an X86 processor, capable of running windows, with much better specs. But it is cramped, gets uncomfortably hot, and doesn't last very long when playing something intensive. But they managed to secure enough funds and are based in china so it is easier for them to push a larger volume and drive the unit's price down.

>>59747449
>Built in gamepad
When will this meme die?

>>59747480
>chink shill
It is one of the most complete indiekike projects I have ever seen.

>>59750266
Why? Got a better idea how to play emulated games?

>>59748455
>remove the battery
I don't think it's that hard. It's literally a generic battery wired up.. with basic skills you should be able to replace that..

>>59750322
>Got a better idea
You could try not being a fedora wearing autistic man child

>>59750325
I think he means removable like a phone, you can change it for another one on the go

Not that now we have proper battery banks, makes it totally useless

>>59750348
Can't do that. Next idea?

>>59750349
Exactly. I am also a removable battery advocator, I don't buy a phone that cannot be repaired. And boy, batteries break with all this fast charging.

But, I don't care if it takes me 10 seconds or an hour to replace it, just allow me to.
For example HTC is literally hot_glue.png. It is near impossible to replace anything in HTC phones.

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>>59747515
You just got memed

>>59750377
This one's battery should be much easier as I have seen people do it and also it is generic like you said, a lot of chink batteries work in there

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>>59750393
Well memed my friend

>>59750394
Btw why not just check which phone voltage is most common and then you could just dump like 4 Note 4 batteries in there?

Or anything.. you get the idea.
It would make sense... to me?
They could even buy them in bulk.

>>59750412
Why not have a extra replaceable battery on the back? They are thin enough and you could 3D print a case of it.

>>59750427
Well a hatch could you this creation I just dreamt up. ZeroLemon basically does this, straps cells on each other in various ways and calls it one battery.

The batteries would be connected with a terminal inside the housing. Really don't see how this couldn't work.

>ARM
>UMPC
Can we please end this meme?

>>59747449
>ARM Dual core
>Resisitive touchscreen
>2GB ram
>Linux
>Gamepad
No.

>>59750450
smack z sucks

>>59747480
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't exist you fucking idiot.

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>>59750456
At least it's an actual fucking UMPC

>>59750467
Every time I said it, you fall for it kek. Every time.
I want to see them actually bringing it out already.

I shit myself

>>59750467
Thank god.
What would I do if my device wouldn't heat up like crazy and eat through my battery quickly..

>>59750467
stop posting, pajeet.

>>59750504
I do as well, the current "UMPC" market currently revolves around pretend ones like what OP is shilling and ones with shitty intel atom SoCs.

>>59750520
Don't worry, Smack Z has you covered

>>59750531
stop posting, pajeet.

>>59750543
oh no, an autism tantrum? i guess just keep echoing whatever we say until you calm down, kiddo

>>59750567
Go suck a cock faggot and choke on it

>>59747449
looks like something a Nintoddler would use

>>59750582
lol okay, go chill for a bit kiddo

>>59750535
>Intel atom
>shitty
Yeah you're right, let's stick a 45w quad core i7 into a 5 inch computer.

>>59750609
Obviously it's not shitty for a x86-64 chip that only takes 6W power max.
We don't have much better right now, m3 is still slightly more power hungry and the settings AMD is developing are 15W.

>>59750609
Merlin falcon APUs can have their tdps throttled to 12 watts and still provide better performance than a shitty atom SoC.

If the surface pro series have been able to successfully cool down 15W chips since forever then I don't see how this thing will have a problem cooling down a 12W chip.

>>59750647
The Surface Pro is twice as big you retard

>>59750647
That "shitty" Atom is still less power hungry, produces less heat and can run far longer on a device several times smaller.
I still don't see how it's shitty.

>>59750670
No shit but it proves that a small active cooling unit can cool down 15W chips. This is something the final smach z will have.

>>59750671
iGPU performance is shit, intel "HD" "graphics" have always been the cancer and bane of the computing world.

Granted I will admit those atom cpu cores are pretty energy efficient.

>>59750837
>No shit but it proves that a small active cooling unit can cool down 15W chips.
How does it prove that it would work with something that has 8 times (front and back) less surface area to dissipate heat?

>>59750837
I agree it's nowhere great, but it can play all my emulators fine I'm happy and even shit like Portal 2 or Skyrim.
Obviously I'm not saying I don't want something better if there ever will be, just that it ain't that shitty if you think how small it is.

>>59747683
Someone who is on a companies nuts like herpes.

>>59750922
Nah, someone who is actually getting paid to market, what you say is just a fanboy

>>59748332
That shit can't emulate GC and Wii games

>>59750864
True. Well we'll all see if this thing turns out to be shit or not in a few months. I won't pre-order until I see the final product and benchmarks but I have my fingers crossed.

>>59750982
If you hate those consoles the Pyra might be a better idea, you're right

>>59750982
>That shit can't emulate GC and Wii games
The Win runs GameCube perfectly and most of Wii titles fine though

>>59750671
In my experience, the cherry trail Atom is only let down by its turbo. (Bay trail was just shit, imo)
Its far too unstable to use for long stretches of time and Windows tries to force it at every opportunity which is what I theorize causes drivers crashes and instability in memory management. Not to mention the 2.4ghz boost rarely helps improve performance in most things since the internal GPU is the big limiter on the device anyway.

Fortunately you can turn this off and get tremendous improvements on the GPDWins battery life and its thermals. You can gain extra hours on 25% brightness and a disabled turbo.
And a 1.6ghz quad core sans turbo is still a very capable computer. I even downclock mine to 1.2ghz or even 1ghz if Im playing light emulation or browsing the internet.

In comparison ARM devices do terribly at such low clock speeds. I had a 1.2ghz Moto G 4G phone as my first ARM device. The damn thing would crash all the time, though I feel this is in part due to android pre-5.0 being pretty crap and inefficient.

Core m3 stuff appears to have a much better way of performing at low clock speeds and in handling turbo but at the cost of it consuming much more power and being considerably more expensive.

The only bugbear I have is intel not fully implementing vulkan properly into the atom. Could have been a nice little boon for the device.

>>59751521
I'm letting it constantly run at turbo speeds, because cooling is no problem (usually stays in the high 60C's on full load).
Never had a single crash or hangs or anything.

>>59751521
>Its far too unstable to use for long stretches of time and Windows tries to force it at every opportunity which is what I theorize causes drivers crashes and instability in memory management.
you probably just have a shitty unit

>>59751521
>You can gain extra hours on 25% brightness and a disabled turbo.
I can already get 5 hours of GameCube though with brightness at max and turbo without the device getting hot or crashing, I just have a Windows profile with limited CPU speed if I ever need it to not turbo, but I haven't bothered using it.

Also this >>59751617

>>59751521
>>59751604
What revision are your units?

>>59751746
Second revision >>59751604

>>59751617
>>59751645
Well I got a first gen Win, (second batch). So you might be onto something there. (Used to suffer from occasional memory management BSODs but I managed to fix it)
Not heat-sink modded mine or opened it though, just tamed its kinks by modifying windows registries, you know, various fixes people shared here and there.

I really should heatsink mod it and get those thermal gains, but I'm pretty lazy.

>>59751779
>I really should heatsink mod it and get those thermal gains, but I'm pretty lazy.
Do it! You won't regret it.

I also heard there's some problem with a resistor on the older units that used to cause many crashes on them, that might be one reason your crashes with turbo, the CPU doesn't get enough power.

>>59751779
good idea, also look into the resistor fix like anon said

>>59751836
Is it something you can do yourself tho?

>>59751859
I remember reading about it on a forum somewhere, someone actually changed the resistor that was causing problems, I really can't remember where I read it though

>>59751836
>>59751815
I know about the resistor fix, but it sounds like an absolute bastard because of how tiny those resistors are.
I've taken apart a PSP 2000 before to change its case and fit in a new screen, (since the old one got screen rot overnight when I left it on a damp window and I fancied a clear case), so its not like I couldn't do it, but it would be significantly harder, (PSP was piss easy since its all modular parts) and I not even sure its worth the trouble since the unit works fine, and I get like 8-10 hours on it without the turbo enabled. Having to charge it all the time was a real pain.

Hell without the turbo on, I can get like 35fps in Fallout New Vegas in the overworld with some mods, so again, Im not sure if the turbo achieves much more than just making the unit hotter.

>>59751964
>Hell without the turbo on, I can get like 35fps in Fallout New Vegas in the overworld with some mods, so again, Im not sure if the turbo achieves much more than just making the unit hotter.
That's pretty awesome actually, limit it to 30 FPS and you will have a smooth yet playable game that won't even eat as much battery/produce heat as it does right now.
If it's working it might not be worth the try to fix it, as it might break even more. The revision 2 units are great though, it sucks they didn't catch onto it earlier and produced some shitty units at first.

You can build this piece of junk out of a pi 3 and a screen for 150$. Anyone who buys this is beta desu

>>59747449
>Dual core 1.5GHz ARM
>600 euros
No thank you

>>59752056
kek

>>59750647
>12w in a smartphone sized computer
You're a fucking idiot.

>>59752022
Thermals are good too. High 60s at max. Considering its unmodded.

>5" 720p screen
So what reason would I use this? Instead of just using my 5.5" 1080p phone or a real laptop/netbook