/hpg/ - Headphone General

I haven't had the urge to get anything new for over a year now. Pretty content with my HE560 for home and some ANC Bose shit for commuting.

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are headphones that have their own soundcards with '7.1 surround sound' a meme? waste of money?

also curious as to how long the lifespan of your headsets are? the last two I had shit the bed way earlier than I would have liked (and broke in the dumbest most frustrating ways).

Repost from the last thread:

An audiophool friend of mine was looking to get rid of some lower end stuff, so I was able to snag the SHP 9500's, DT770, and a Fulla 2 for $200.

Pretty new to all this, have I done well?

So far I like the DT770's more after eqing down the highs a bit.

What's the next logical upgrade I should look into?

>>59736111
yes

>>59736132
>SHP 9500
$50
>Fulla 2
$100 + shipping
>DT 770
$150

so not bad.

Reposting on this new thread.

>Budget
Under 30€

>Location
ITA, EU

>Source
PC, Android

>Type of headphone
IEM

>Sound signature
no v-shape, no mid centric. preferably flat, tending warm

>Past headphones
Xiaomi Piston 3 Youth Ed.
+strong wire
+pretty comfy
-weak wire-jack joint
-harsh treble, no bass at all
(prolly not original, I have to investigate, nothing to scratch on the box to verify genuinity)

Asus AHSU001 Zenear Earphone
+liked a lot how they sound, flat (as for cheap iem) with nice bass presence
+pretty comfy
-weak wire and joint
(-single control button)

>>59736132
>What's the next logical upgrade I should look into?
more EQing

For someone who wears glasses and can't easily wear contacts, are there any comfortable ways of wearing over-ear headphones?
I've got a pair with really soft pads that I can wear for hours on end without my glasses, but as I'm pretty much blind without them, it's not very practical. So, when I wear my glasses, I can hardly wear them for more than an hour because the pressure.

>>59736433
Take a look at the K7XXs, the pads are super soft and clamp force is non existent

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Headphones snapped at point in pic related

Headphones before that broke at wire-jack joint (had to wiggle around to get audio. Needed to be held in certain position)

>inb4 take better care of your things
I take autistic amounts of care of everything I own. I dont know how these happened

anything similar to pic related around 120 USD (flexible)? Audio quality of pic related was good enough for me, not too fussy. Must have a mic.

I Just want a STRONG headset that will not break easily.

>>59736433
get headphones with less clamp, softer pads and preferably open-back, too, to avoid killing the bass when the seal is broken by your glasses

>>59736495
Stop buying headsets. Theyre almost all built like utter shit. Hyper X Cloud Core is about the only thing that isnt. Just buy some headphones and get a desk mic or a modmic/boompro.

>>59736495
>120 USD
https://www.amazon.com/Philips-SHP9500-Precision-Over-ear-Headphones/dp/B00ENMK1DW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1491321691&sr=8-2&keywords=shp9500s

https://www.amazon.com/Antlion-Audio-ModMic-Attachable-Microphone/dp/B00R98JVVU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1491321714&sr=8-2&keywords=modmic+5

NO MORE HEADSETS

>>59736559
Hyper X cloud II was the other broken headset I mentioned. Though I suppose the wire-jack joint is pretty weak regardless of headset/headphones

feels bad...

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I'm a sweaty weeb from Australia who just had the 2nd hinge of their ATH-M40x's break off rendering them unusable after (just over) a year. As a result I am now in the market for new headphones.

I'd like to spend up to US$300 to get something with somewhat higher sound quality or will just last longer.

I use my headphones to play vidya (weebshit) and listen to music (weebshit and Daft Punk) on my PC and I was a fan of the strong treble and strong base of the ATH-M40x's.

I'd prefer closed-back over-ear to keep from annoying flatmates, but am fine with things bleeding a meter or two to get better sound quality.

Any anons have advice on how to proceed?

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Best headphones under $100 coming though

>>59736630
https://addictedtoaudio.com.au/products/sennheiser-hd600-audiophile-reference-hifi-stereo-headphones

I order from these guys all the time, they're great

>>59736613
Rather than the ModMic, why not the Boom Pro?

One cable and it's cheaper. The only downside is the headphones must have a 1/8" jack.

https://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-BoomPro-Gaming-Headset-Headphone/dp/B00BJ17WKK

>>59736658
I've heard some people have had issues with the Boom Pro cable, causing interference

>>59736630
770's.

>>59736630
Used TH-X00
You can get em for about 400 didgeridollars sometimes

>>59736059
I want to lick her feet

>>59736059
>Budget
$60 loose cap

>Location
USA

>Source
Streaming music on phone

>Type of headphone
IEMs

>Comfort level
Pretty comfortable, I plan on using them for hours doing homework

>Sound signature
neutral

>Past headphones
MDR-7506
Garbage $5 IEMs for temporary use

>>59736495
Read wiki linked @ top post.

Gaymer headset lol.

>>59736613
>Philips-SHP9500
im looking into these headphones atm. The point where the band connects to the cups and allows them to rotate, it looks like it may also be a weak point that would possibly break. (Same as my Logitech G35s in the pic from my last post)

Can anyone give their opinion on this? does it feel or look like a weakspot to anyone else?

Why is everything in sweden so expensive or not available, i just want a nice pair of headphones

>>59736111
>how long the lifespan of your headsets are?
Don't have a headset, but ht MDR V6 is sturdy as hell, i've heard of people who have had them for 20 years or so and only had to change the pads.

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Non-/g/fag here, apologies lads

>Budget
Around £75, give or take.

>Location
UK

>Source
PC

>Type of headphone
Full-sized.

>Open or closed
Unsure. General music and gaming needs. That being said, I'm not so much one of those competitive FPS players (i.e. people that might wish for a perfect 'soundstage' for awareness of where other players are based on hearing footsteps or whatever), it's more-so a matter of single-player games overall (if that affects the choice).
With other people in the house though, the idea of music and the occasional piece of porn audio not leaking out has its appeal.

>Comfort level
Long periods of playing games is a factor. Is anything really uncomfortable enough to warrant choosing lower sound quality in another pair of headphones?

>Past headphones
Some cheap Superlux HD681 with my first PC build, for too many years now. Don't really have anything to compare them to and pick out things that they might've been good for.

>>59736132
U did good but you may want to invest in DT880 (770 trebble is rape) HD600 or AKG 712 (2 of these go on massdrop for 200$ sometimes). SHP 9500 are nice tho

>>59737561
M40X seems to be within you budget, but if i were you i'd save a some more and get HD558 for open-back or DT770 80ohms closed-back.

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>>59736651
You seem to have accidentally posted a picture of the SHP9500 for some reason. Here are the actual best headphones for under $100, though, I've got you covered.

HD650s or X2 for gaming, anime, and n word music?

friendos: is there really any significant quality differences in standalone dac outputs over $100 or is it all a meme?

>>59736495
Don't buy a set with a microphone. Make sure you buy phones that either have a removable cord or consider wireless. Bluetooth is great, but isn't compatible with everything.

>>59737763
If all designs were competent there wouldn't be. In reality they aren't and price won't tell you which is. It's still pretty rare to get a downright bad standalone converter. Generally I'd advice getting a device based on its features as performance remains mostly unknown for majority of devices.

>>59737760
Rather than focusing on the content you are using them with, think of what you want. Your choice is dictated by preference to tonality, what you can drive and budget.

how much audio do open back headphones leak/bleed? the philips shp9500 in particular

Id rather not have everyone around me hearing what im doing. Is it just a bit more than closed back? or is the difference significant?

>>59737760
X2
Negerbass for negermusik

>>59737903
very, very significant.

So much that I use open back for gayming because I can hear myself clear as day. People in the same room while you wear them will hear everything.

>>59737903
Significantly more. Moving coil drivers like SHP9500 tend to emit a little less sound to the back than planar magnetic or electrostatic drivers but it still sounds like a little speaker to the outside.

>>59737763
DACs themselves are a meme

>>59737955
That's a meme

>>59737864
Budget is $250. I could get a 650 used for that, and save for a fulla 2, or get a new X2.

My preference is bass and clarity. I play lots of games, so I need soundstage, and watch lots of anime, so I prefer detail. These are my preferences for what sound I want.

>>59737943
>>59737951
With a mic connected to the philips shp9500, wouldnt music or game sound come through very clearly then? annoy everyone youre talking too?

>>59736495
PC 373 it's an HD 518 with a mic

>>59738013
I ripped apart a headphone/mic combo I got from amazon leaving only one earcup as a stand (so it doesn't pick up when I bump the desk) to use it as a desk mic

Currently I have it hung on the wall behind my monitor. Its a decent microphone for basic use.

Just wanted drop in to thank /hpg/ for suggesting M40X with Shure HPAEC840 pads for a friend with ear issues.

They sound pretty good for the budget, and the alternate pads are pretty comfy. Can't wait to hand them over to him.

Why are sennheiser headphones so ugly? The only good looking ones cost over $1000, and even those are plastic shits. Can't they learn to use aluminum or steel instead of chinkshit plastic?

>>59737694
>snapheisers
No
Even
Once

>>59737987
>My preference is bass and clarity
Somewhat mutually exclusive. You can't have it all with the response. Neither headphone is a bad option here I think. X2 is more boomy, has more low bass and an overall warmer tone. It would be very warm if not for the lone treble peak. HD 650 has a broad midbass boost which makes it sound warm, full bodied and to some extent thick.

Soundstage in the extent which headphones can alter it is a direct effect of the frequency response. Neither headphone is exactly worthwhile in terms of soundstage and you definitely don't need it in games. It doubt it does what you think it does. Detail is also just frequency response. The less colored the headphone is, generally the more detailed it sounds. Detail is a somewhat vague term and a certain type of coloration can give an impression of increased detail.

HD 650 is much less sensitive and might need an amplifier for you to drive it loud enough. I say might because I don't know how powerful your whatever device is at the moment and I don't know how loud you want it to be. X2 should be easily powered by the electronics you have already.

>>59738013
No mics don't quite pick up stuff that easy. I've been using modmic with various of open backs without an issue.

>>59738393
Thanks anon. I'd give you gold if I could

>>59738534
nice bait

>>59736184
Xiaomi Hybrids, you can't really go wrong with the price.

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I was really sold on the philips shp9500 until I noticed it was open back. Any other similar good quality headphones with a closed back and more emphasis on noise cancelling? (For a similar price under or around $120US)

>>59738555
not bait

>>59738692
>noise cancelling
>under $120

>>59736630
I'm considering getting m40xs, how were they?

>>59738748
he probably means isolation

>>59738748
>>59738765
Yes, isolation. My bad

>>59738609
anons told me about KZ ATE. what about them?

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How do I decide between open and closed headphones, /g/

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>>59736988
bump

>>59738731
Some slow individuals on 4chin unironically use Reddit as a boogeyman.

>>59738973
If you need isolation from external noise, you only have one option: closed. If you don't you can choose whichever. There isn't much to be generalized about their sound. Designs have advantages and disadvantages but these vary a lot depending on the model in question.

>>59738973
The only reason to choose closed is if you don't want sound leaking in while you're listening or don't want sound leaking out to those around you

Other then that there is absolutely no reason to chose closed over open

I have MDR V6 headphones, what would the equivalent be for earphones on the price/quality spectrum?

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>>59739056
>Some slow individuals on 4chin unironically use Reddit as a boogeyman.
i wonder why

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>>59739170
Anon, I think it's for the best that we don't know more about your subs. That wasn't headphone related anyway and attempts to discuss Reddit on 4chan is truly like opening a can of worms. A can of dumber than average worms.

>>59738973
>Do i need isolation?
>If yes: Closed
>If not: Open

>>59739315
>attempts to discuss Reddit on 4chan is truly like opening a can of worms
yeah because standards have dropped so low that it's not universally despised anymore

>>59737760
Sounds like X2 is for you, they have dat BAAAAAS and a big soundstage but be prepared for vocals to take a hit.

>>59737561
Chance of getting any other recommendations for this post if I narrow it down to just open or semi-open?

Let's say the budget's £80-85. Music, games, etc as I said. More of your audio-autism to prevent me from wasting dosh, /g/.

Indecisiveness is hell

>>59739480
How much of a hit do they take?

>>59738987
Etymotic MK5

>>59739838
For me it was quite too much, but bass was also too overwhelming. They are differently recessed, along with a midrange, and were overshadowed by bass. HD600 on the other hand that I got have the best midrange out of all open headphones that I've tried, and the most forward midrange so when music calls for it my waifus scream right in me ears. If you can go and audition both in stores, if you can't, try to find an order online that you can easily return and try X2 first, altho I would rather try HD650 and see if bass is enough but if you are listening to loads of SIMPLE, yeah there is some rap that isn't a simple 2 beats over fuck, fuck you pucci, rap than I feel that bass won't be enough and altho HD650 have a slightly bigger soundstage than HD600, HD600 soundstage is the smallest out of all open headphones in that price range that I know, imaging is pin point tho. What kind of weeb music you listen to? It can range from anywhere to simple idols where X2 may shine to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgwSOAoFA2c where OH GOD I LOVE HD600 VOCALS SINGING TO MY EAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS :3.

>>59738692
Brainwavs HM5

>>59740148
When I said anime I meant like, shows.

anyway, I had the K712, and I hate how boring and flat and neutral they sounded, so I doubt I would like the HD600s.

Aren't the 600s and 650s similar in sound? So I'm not sure if I would like the 650s.

Sadly I can't demo shit. My state is basically a swamp and rebel flag two teeth fucks. No audio stores around here.

>>59737760
I had both and ended up keeping the 650's over the X2's. The X2's bass is way overrated, there's just slightly more than the 650 but it sounds more bloated and anemic.
The 650 handles n word music just fine unless you just absolutely need your head rattled, in which case you shouldn't even be looking at open backs. The X2 might be a little better for chinese cartoons and gaymen (especially if you wanna use it as a headset with a Boompro) because of the wider soundstage but the 650 is better at everything else.

>>59740907
Anemic is the wrong word, I was thinking bloated. Point still stands for everything else though, soundstage isn't enough to make up for every other aspect of the sound.

>>59740907
would you pick the 650s even if they didn't have an amp at first?

I have a pair of LCD-2s that I drive with an o2+odac, worth upgrading the amp/dac at all?

>>59740148
Tried Love Live yet?

Also, if you like absurdly complex vocal work, you might enjoy 志方あきこ's work on Ar Tonelico and such.

Like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTO9DEc4cMU

This shit sounds great on HD600.

>>59741206
If you want more inputs/outputs/other features, or if you want more power for future upgrades, sure. Otherwise no. If you don't believe me, try and find a higher quality amp/DAC to ABX test. Make sure to volume match too with a decibel meter or a calibrated measurement rig.

>>59741059
That's actually what I did. Used them for a couple weeks unamped until I got an O2, it sounds perfect now.

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>>59741059
Not him, but do you have a sound card you could use them with? I've been running my 650s through an X-Fi Titanium sound card for around a month, and it sounds good. Ordering my external dac+amp this week probably.

I'm also listening to it using this EQ that makes them more like the Harman target response curve. I posted it last thread, not sure if you saw it before it 404'd. I really like the way it makes them sound.

>>59741405
How does it sound unamped? right now I have the standard Afterglow V1 headset, how much of an upgrade would it be?

>>59741406
I sadly don't. I have a motherboard that has HD audio, but I bet that doesn't mean shit.

>Budget
200USD, I'm willing to wait a while and up the budget if necessary.

>Location
US

>Source
Preferably laptop/phone, but I do have a fiio e6 if that'll do.

>Type of headphone
Over ear

>Open or closed
Closed, with decent isolation

>Comfort level
Very comfy, I'll be wearing them for hours at a time on a daily basis, and sometimes with glasses.

>Sound signature
I just don't want fatiguing highs since I'll be wearing them for so long, and I want my weeb music to sound good, so female vocals are important.

>Past headphones
Koss pro4s. I'm pretty happy with them, just looking to upgrade.

How are the schiit products? I was thinking about either getting a schiit stack or Jotunheim, is that a bad decision? I have the x2s, but might get a planar headphone pair one day. or one with more impedence

>>59739100
anyone?

>>59741864
They're good, the magni 2 is a very good value. I've heard the nfb-11 is better than the jotunheim and schiit stack unless you want the balanced output though.

>>59741864
I think they're great to start out with for the price as I have the common Magni/Modi 2. I do want to get something different now.

>>59740606
>anyway, I had the K712, and I hate how boring and flat and neutral they sounded, so I doubt I would like the HD600s.
All righty then, I think X2 will suit you more since I feel that HD650 won't be much of a difference from K712 for you. HD650 is basically HD600 but with bit more bass and rolled off highs, I didn't like it since female vocals sounded worse.

>When I said anime I meant like, shows.
So you listen to anime soundtrack?

>>59736111
Last time I checked I had 2 ears, not 8.

>>59741864
Not bad, but look into the NFB-11 instead.

Schiit Anon here, the thing is, i like my x2s sound signature, so is there any way to preserve that?

>>59742065
what a hard choice. I want good female vocals but I also don't want my headphones to sound boring. how much more bass does it have vs K712?

And I guess.

>>59741864
>trusting a company that released a product which literally blew out drivers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCZ-AJQOiDg

Schiit: worse than chinkshit. Buy fiio, buy O2/ODAC, buy whatever. Just don't by schiit garbage.

>schiit
>a good company

Pick one. They are literally worse than hifiman in terms of censorship. At least hifiman didn't blow out peoples' drivers. Just because they're made in the USA doesn't mean they're not complete pieces of shit scumbags. Don't buy schiit.

http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/07/banned-at-head-fi.html

>>59742259
>That driver crinkle
That's fucking scary

>>59742100
Alright, but i would like to get a dac and amp. However, I will not have the funds to afford both for a while. Which would be better to get first. Note: I am currently driving my headphones out of my computer.

>>59741235
Not yet, but I torrented it and ready to watch in one go over the weekend :3.

>Ar Tonelico 2 METHOD_METAFALICA
wait a second that sounds familia..
>2:49
>Akiko Shikata
CUM CUM CUM CUM, I've listened this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_vGeHAM4gM to death. Thank you for the song, now I am just gonna download all her albums.

>>59742132
I think you can find X2 on amazon and return it within a week or so, any amazon return policy experts? Idk if you can return used goods, but if you could I would recommend you try out HD650 first and if you are satisfied with baaaaas then you keep them. I don't want you to end up with boring sounding headphones but what >>59740907 >>59740970 said mirrows my feeling for X2, I've had them on for few minutes and it was literal insta no because of how bloated bass felt but then I don't listen to rap. I think I would recomend HD650, scew X2, bass murders female vocals and that is 99.9% of all anime soundtracks that has sining in it.

>>59742293
>nwavguy
Haha, good one

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>>59742293
>I’ve spent hardly any time on Head-Fi since March when Jude started censoring my contributions there.
>I’ve spent hardly any time on Head-Fi since March when the Jews started censoring my contributions there.

fixed

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>>59736433
Sounds like your phones have too much clamping force. SHP9500s have very little. They are SUPER comfy and they sound really good if you can live with open-back phones. Currently marked down to $55 at newegg.

>>59742457
and they sound okay without an amp yeah?

>>59742405
NFB-11 is a dac+amp/pre-amp combo. You don't need to worry about buying anything else. Your X2s should be working fine straight out of your motherboard, so just start saving up, then you'll be set for any headphones on the market (unless you fall for the balanced cable meme).

>>59742738
So i dont need any dedicated dac/amps?

>>59742457
>ready to watch in one go
:-)

Here I've just skimmed through the recently released fansubbed version of the µ's final live. For idol trash like me, this is way too much.

The seiyuu are insanely good the 1st day. Some interesting shit happens the 2nd (and final) day, as the seiyuu lose their shit.

I might actually watch it properly this weekend.

>>59742259
They sound good until you try amp and then they don't sound so good without it, at least it was the case for my HD600 which had a tighter and more round up bass and overall more collected sound but I have no problem listening to them without an amp now, didn't like the one that I've got and returned it, but some songs like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw2k3cRzUMo sound not as good as on amp. So I highly recommend an amp and I think fulla 2 for 100$ should do well enough.

>>59742659
Yes, like the HD600 (which I have), they should sound ok, just not loud at all.

If you want loud, you'll need the gain and power of an amp. I'd suggest the magni2, as the fulla2 I also have (and definitely e10k, as that provides less output) is insufficient.

>>59742757
No, it's all-in-one. Did you look it up?

http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB112014/NFB112014EN.htm

>>59742864
Sorry, I meant will this act as both an amp and dac at the same time. I am very new to audio stuff in general.

>>59742799
Yeah I know I just won't be able to get it at first.

>>59742860
How loud will I be able to get? is it sufficient?

>>59742877
>will this act as both an amp and dac at the same time

Yes, like I said before, you don't need anything else for it. Other than some new headphones afterwards :^)

>>59742860
My macbook drives HD600 to dangerously loud levels by itself, for me the main difference was in sound quality not loudness.

>>59742936
Alright. Thank you very much!

>>59742902
Magni2 on high gain, louder than you'd want to listen to with the knob past 2/3rd. It is however still useful for very quietly mastered classical music and such.

And it won't distort or anything even at the maximum... just don't recommend testing that with the headphones on.

>>59743052
no silly I meant without the amp

>>59742259
>>>59741864
>>trusting a company that released a product which literally blew out drivers
>Schiit: worse than chinkshit. Buy fiio, buy O2/ODAC, buy whatever. Just don't by schiit garbage.
Always carefully avoiding telling the whole story... these were damaged deliberately, ignoring warnings.

Schiit is utterly hated by other companies in the field because they broke the market several times by releasing better products at easily a tenth of the price.

>>59742293
The schiit side of the story (chapter 12): http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up

TL;DR: Nwavguy acted like an absolute moron, and got himself banned from a popular forum.

>>59743382
>>59743356>>59742293
I don't care about that, I just want to know, are their products any good. If so, what should I get. I am leaning toward either the NFB-11 from Audio-GD or the stack. Convince me either way.

>>59743441
>I don't care about that, I just want to know, are their products any good.
No, they're quite useless without working headphones.

>>59743441
You know the device's names now. You can google for them, watch youtube reviews and such, and make a decision.

>>59743356
>schiit schill trying to damage control

Give it up. No other company has released amps which LITERALLY DESTROYS PEOPLE'S HEADPHONES and then had the audacity to lie about it and schill and censor forums. Schiit is trash.

>>59743441
In personally I'm going for the audio-gd so I can use the pre-out to my speaker power amps and have an actual switch to choose between speakers or headphones without unplugging anything or switching outs in the OS.

>>59743382
>linking to that garbage "book" literally nobody cares about
You've outed yourself as the same retarded shill as in all the other threads. Take your brand loyalty elsewhere, I'm just trying to warn people away from a company that literally lied about destroying people's headphones.

>>59743128
>no silly I meant without the amp
Out of computer line out, HD600 sound decent just far from loud enough. HD650 no idea.

Smartphones tend to include a headphone amp, so it's good to test them there too.

You can always get a dac+amp thing later on.

>>59743624
>>59743602
>muh retarded shill
I'm not, but sure you're the usual schiit hater.

>don't read schiit's pov on the issue, don't research schiit, just believe me they're trash.
Good luck with that.

>>59743665
>their POV is in a gigantic tldr wall of text among 15 links

This is how you tell someone is trying to obscure the truth, folks. Once a liar, always a liar. Classic Schiit.

>>59743441
NFB-11 has more power, better DAC, and costs only a bit more than the Schiit stack. The choice is obvious for me. It may be chink-fi, but it's good chink shit.

By the way, I thought it would be worth mentioning that the TCXO upgrades for it are worth considering, but they're not necessary

>>59743681
Hai hai. Continue on your pointless quest to try to prevent people from reading something. See how much that helps you :D

>>59737694
>SHP9500S
>Better instrument separation
>Better soundstage
>Better detail

>HD 558
>More bass?
>Errr, comfort?

>>59743783
>implying anyone reads that snoozefest tldr garbage
I don't have to convince anyone not to read it. It's an obfuscation of the truth, it's very purpose for existence is that it should deter people from reading it.

>>59738121
They're over a decade old, anon. Lazy fucks over at Sennheiser are still willing to keep that shitty
kitchen countertop design.

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About to pull the trigger on some AKG K553's, wheres the best place to get some comfy pads for them ?

>>59743790
The HD 558 sound better overall.

>>59743872
Well, if you want mediocre bass. Its bass can get muddy at times, and there isn't even that much in the first place. Not to mention, its "smoothness" just hides detail compared to the SHP9500s.

what do you guys think of head-fi? It seems like I get a lot of opposite thoughts. with the X2 and the 650s, everyone here recommend the 650s, while everyone over their recommend the X2. thought it was pretty interesting

>>59743964
Head-fi is even worse with the brand loyalty sperging (hard to imagine, I know. You thought sennshills were bad).

>>59743964
Fidelio X2s for bass, warmth, soundstage, and build; HD 650s for mids and vocals. Different cans for different people.

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>>59736059
I see the false OP is back.

But let's get that out of the way; the best budget headphones are coming through. :)

>>59743964
They probably just assume you're all about that nigga-bass and it's the only thing you care about.

>>59743964
https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php, step up ur game fampatchi.

>>59738760
Loved them, but they broke after a year of daily use and aren't worth repairing.

They have a stronger treble presence than the m50x's, while the m50xs have a similar build problem. As far as I can see, the m70xs while fixing this build floor have a more neutral profile and generally weaker treble while costing twice as much, so I wouldn't recomend looking at those if you are interested in the profile of the m40xs.

I'd recommend them to see whether or not it'll be worth buying better headphones in the future, but again, mine broke after a year, so caveat emptor

>>59736698
The Beyer DT770s look like exactly what I'm looking for

Best bluetooth headphones for commuting/walking, for $75 or so? Widely available pls. All-rounders but if you gotta know I like me noisy lo-fi music and clean chiptunes, nothing very bassy.

Is there a place where I can go demo different headphones? I know best buy kinda does, but any other stores I could go to?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4PE9WfppJE

Daily reminder that this is what it's like to listen to Beyerdynamic headphones

is the T#0RP line actually hard to drive or is zeos talking out of his ass like usually?

>>59736059

My old Google in ears are on their way to death and I need me a new pair, so do recommend.

> Budget
~$100

> Location
The ol' Red, White, and Blue

> Source
3.5mm (PC, phone, etc.)

>Type
Prefer In ear, but could also do over ear.

> Open or Closed
Don't care

> Comfort level
Don't care a whole lot. Something that doesn't hurt afer ~2 hrs.

> Sound signtaure
Prefer neutral to bassy

> Past headphones
> Lightspeed Zulu.2 ANR
Usw it for flying. Can't be connected to PC or phone, except using Bluetooth

> Google Project Fi headphones
Google branded headphones that came in as a Christmas present from Google Project Fi. The wires are almost entirely ripped and should die soon.

>>59741864
>schiit
shit

>>59747811
Vsonic GR07 Bass Edition/Etymonic MK5
Brainwavs HM5/NVX XPT100
Somic MM185/Status CB-1

>>59747811
Hifiman re-400
ath m40x

>>59747998
>>59748068
Thanks. Will take a look at those.

I think I like my new Edifier R1700BT better than my HD650

>>59747153
No, they actually are quite insensitive. A Magni/Magni 2 easily pushes them tho.

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How do you guys store headphones when you're not using them and what are some techniques I can use to prevent my cable from breaking?

>>59748856
Put them on a shelf

Buy headphones with a removable cable, buy better cables, or stop treating your cables like shit. Figure out which is applicable to your case.

>>59748856
Cheap (<$10) headphone stand.

Cable should come from the rear of your desk (eg: behind your screen), not from under the desk.

>>59748882
I don't treat my cables like shit, but even my superlux headphone cable started breaking after years of babying it. I'm already using a cable extension to avoid stress on the headphone plug of my more expensive headphones.

>>59748884
Where do I find a cheap one though? They all seem to put stress on the earpads or put too much pressure on a single spot of the headband (banana hanger).

>>59736059
>PS: Ignore the trolls. Especially the mentally ill racist ones like TrustyFucks.
>you will never be this salty

>people unironically recommending audio-gd trash
Must be nice having Z Review's tier knowledge on headphone equipment, ie zero.

>>59748946
Explain why you don't like them.

>>59748965
Overpriced, terrible build quality sound like shit, measure like shit.

>>59749003
>measure like shit
Source?

Are these good and worth £116?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/n10/Etymotic-Research-Portable-iPhone-iPod-Earphones-Black/B000XPG2QI

>>59749078
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/audio-gd-singularity-19-dac-measurements.4135/

>>59749080
Yes. As long as you don't mind the dildo fit. God tier isolation

>>59749087
Any of the NFB-11? I never see anything but that spoken about here.

>>59749093
How much better are they than these ones for half the price?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Headphones-Earphones/Etymotic-Research-ERMK-5-mk5-Isolator-Isolating-Black/B00OQG7IC2/

Also, I don't know if I'll mind the dildo fit, is there something I could compare it to to get a sense of how it'll feel?

>>59736863
Funny that you would say that when we can't even see her feet.

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>>59746786
watched this with my 880s and there's no sound?

>>59749112
It hasn't been measured by a third party. Few threads back I tried to get an answer from the anon(s) who recommend it all the time and sometimes claim things about it without backing it up. Take all of those recommendations as a grain of salt that means nothing more than "works for me". Why they want to constantly recommend that single model to people here is anyone's guess.

>>59749462
I should add that the specs Audio-GD themselves provide are inconclusive. Given their track record with performance I have trouble trusting even the little what's there. Other than potentially bad gear, I take bigger issue with people buying into things they don't know or understand about and then continuing to blindly recommend them to people with even less ability to judge quality. This isn't limited to Audio-GD or /hpg/ but I think we should aim to keep that kind of attitude out of here.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/nuforce-primo-8-earphones/talk
oh dear

>>59748903
amazon has a shitload of them... a matter of finding one you like.

Anyone know if it's common for amps to play audio from two different sources simultaneously? I've got a Schiit stack coming in the mail tomorrow. Specifically, I was wondering if it'll play both my ps4 via optical audio and my computer via usb.

>>59750064
No, instead there's a switch button.

Playing for multiple sources would mean that the device would need a DSP (to do mixing and resampling), and it would not be bit exact up to the dac chip.

External DACs like the modi usually work bit-matched to their sources.

>>59750064
What you're wanting is a mixer.

Sennheiser CX 300 II or SoundMagic E10?

Mostly to play games on the PC and listen to some power metal on phone.

autism

Are there any headphones on the market similar to the AKG K26p / K414p ? They had an extremely bassy sound like the Koss Portapro, but you could fold them to an even smaller size. Plus they had bigger ear pads that, combined with the tight grip of the headband, resulted in some minimal sound isolation (just enough for taking a walk in the city).

I had like 6 of those in the past, the headband always broke... but now they don't make them anymore, and I can't even get any spares.

It's mostly the huge bass that I liked about them, but being foldable to such a small size is a huge bonus. I'm looking for something that sounds the same. Until then I'll repair my old portapro and use that (the cable is broken, needs to be resoldered).

I tried a Sennheiser HD 239 earlier today in the local music shop, and I didn't like it, it had almost no bass (compared to what I'm used to, anyway).

I use it mainly on my portable music players on the go, but also sometimes for my PC. Wouldn't want to spend more than 100€ on a new headphone, unless I know that it will last me a decade.

>>59751206
>On-ear, portable, foldable, bassy and sturdy
V-Moda XS has all the things you want with several nice extras, but it probably costs more than a hundred bucks.

>>59751267
Yeah, that's a bit extreme. I don't mind if it isn't sturdy, if it is cheap to replace.

actually I'd probably prefer a cheaper option, since I have no way of testing the headphones in advance.

Looked around a bit and the Soundmagic P30S is supposedly pretty bass heavy, and clamps down on the ears like my old AKG. Might be a good choice.

AKG 518 is supposedly bassier than that, might be the one I'm looking for.

>>59751362
>>59751206
Okay, I looked up the prices, I can get a K518 for less than half the price of a P30. And I've used AKG headphones for half my life so far, so I kind of trust that brand. Sounds like it has a better chance that I'll like it, and smaller loss if I don't.

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What should I buy to listen to weebslam?
Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XTI3hIGCTk

inb4 rope and chair

How is the Superlux HD668b positional accuracy?

>>59751881
>Superlux HD668b positional accuracy?

It is in a flux state of hyperposition.

>>59749093
>>59749135
Anyone able to comment on the MK5s and dildo fit?

I already have the O2 AMP, should I get the ODAC? What's the difference between ODAC and Modi 2 or other DAC of that price range? I'm pairing it with a DT880 250ohm

>>59751881
Like any other headphone: it doesn't alter it.

>>59752142
Id like you to use ath m50 and sennheiser 558 and tell me again there is no difference

>>59751642
A shotgun and ammo.

>>59752196
I'd like you to go study the basics of human sound localization, explain how a headphone alters this process and how do you measure the accuracy of the process.

Or just explain through your own example. Between the M50X and HD 598 which is more accurate and more importantly why?

>>59751642
As a fellow metal loving anon, I like the DT770 for it.
A lot of metal mixes are lacking in terms of sub bass which they compensate for. Same goes for the highs, but if you're listening to poorly mastered music it'll show.

Fill out the form for anything more specific. Hard to give a recommendation without knowing budget, source, etc.

>>59752134
I'd grab a fulla2. Costs the same as popular standalone dacs, sounds as good, is more useful.

>>59749087
I don't know what the problem is with that Singularity 19, but I don't think any manufacturers have a flawless track record.

Budget: 230usd or 2000nok
Location: Norway
Source: PS4(mainly) and PC
Type of headphone: Full sized
Open or closed: Doesn't matter as long as audio is good
Comfort level: Audio quality slightly more important
Sound signature: Not sure but like strong bass
Past headphones: Skull Candy, Turtle Beach(liked these the most), Sennheisers...

>>59753666
Fidelio X2 would be worth looking into, definitely since they don't need an amp. It is $20 extra dollars then your budget though.

>>59753666
HD599, HD598se.

>>59753666
V-Moda M100 + XL pads.
All you want and it will last a life time.

How are amazon's return policies when it comes to IEMs? Can I order some that I'm not entirely sure about safe in the knowledge I can send them back if they disappoint?

>>59753542
I don't think audio-gd have made a good product yet

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So right now I'm running a 2.1 soundsystem. Are headphones going to be an upgrade?

>>59754400
Yeah, but you should be looking at the $1500 and above market. Also you'll need a DAC and amp which will be approximately another $1500 if you want to get the most out of your headphones. Start by looking at the sennheiser hd800S.

>>59754400
Most people seem to prefer speakers to headphones. Is it a real 2.1 system or a prebuilt 2.1 computer speaker system?

>>59754400
Computer speakers or actual speakers?

>>59754795
>>59755020
It's actual speakers that I bought separatly.

>>59755044
Unlikely, do you have bass traps?

>>59755084
>bass traps
I had to google that. No, I don't have anything lilke that.

>>59755105
Headphones might be an upgrade then.

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The earbuds I bought at the airport a month ago no longer work, and I need a decent and affordable pair for the gym, running and general use.

I'd just be plugging them into an android phone and my laptop.

They don't need to blow my mind, they just need to not have a half-life of four weeks.

Any ideas?

>>59755230
KZ Ate

>>59754400
No. Speakers will always outperform headphones unless in a bad room.

A good set of speakers centered in a not retarded shaped/sized room with a reasonable amount of possessions in it is just straight up better, unless the speakers are just dogshit.

Hell, it's quite simple to tune a room yourself. Hang some thick blankets/carpets from your walls/ceiling, and if necessary build some bass traps according to a room analyzer. Unless you live with parents/roommates/in a dorm/apartment headphones are pretty useless for home use.

>>59755382
Headphones will always sound better at the same price.

>>59755822
You're insane. LSR305's and similar tier shit blow any headphone for the same money out of the water.

Only at extremely cheap prices will headphones out-perform, simply because of material costs.

>>59755860
retard alert

>>59755871
Nice redit maymay. How many upvotes do you have sir?

>>59755860
heh, enjoy your distortion.

So right now I have an HD439 and am planning on getting a HD650 with the Schiit stack.


I mostly play games and such and everyone complains about the soundstage for the 650,
will this even effect my upgrade since it should be better as it is closed vs open back?


Will I hate the 650 since my current headphones are less neutral? Should I bother?

>>59736111
I bought a Zalman like that.... Its utter garbage. It was only $20 so not a big deal. Its loud af, since its USB powered. Literally use them at speakers if its quiet in my place. I wouldnt recommend anyone buy it for anything beyond cheap gaming.(My 558's are way more comfy and sound considerably better)

>>59755822
I could believe that to some extent if we are talking about sub LSR305 price points. Nothing compares listening to music on a decent loudspeaker system in a decent room. I wish there were more binaural recordings. Stereo sounds so wrong through headphones.

>>59755860
You're telling me 2 $150 speakers will sound better than my headphones? There is no way they have the same clarity.

I'll buy them right now if you're right though

>>59756757
Unless you've got some insanely good headphones, yes. LSR305's and similar tier stuff in a not shit room sound better than HD800's [desu not a hard feat]

You'll need a sub if you have a large room though.

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>>59755893
Reddit is superior to 4chan. You can't tell me that 4chan is better, unless you point a gun at my head, and I doubt you'd ever do that.

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>>59756757
However you define "clarity" notwithstanding, they are much more accurate than any pair of headphones ever made and since they are loudspeakers, you'll actually hear how a stereo music sounds like when played through a system it was mixed with and designed for.

Bear in mind that loudspeaker/room-interaction is a huge variable and at least as important to sound quality as the loudspeakers themselves. A good loudspeaker with smooth directivity such as LSR305 helps to avoid excessive and unwanted room interaction. Positioning your speakers properly to your listening spot is important and also aided by good loudspeaker design.

Feels like a good time to read some of those books in the wiki.

>>59756815
You don't need a sub any more in a large room than a small one. Setting one up requires equipment to measure and adjust the response. Single sub is often only good for a single position.

>>59755382
>Speakers will always outperform headphones unless in a bad room.
Nigga doesn't even know what a bass trap is, you can bet your ass his setup is far from optimal.

>bad room
95% of people fall in this category.

Are the Fidelio X2 a significant upgrade from the ATH-M50x?

>>59758032
Yes, but they cant really be compared since the x2s are open and the m50xs are closed. A more direct upgrade would be the TH-x00s for example.

>>59758068
Thanks, here's an upvote

>>59755382
Speakers and headphones have different purposes and different sound representations. Speakers blows headphones in the soundstage and if you want a strong but natural bass speakers are your best bet. Headphones distort less because of smaller speaker and pick up details much easier due to the driver being close to your ear, hence they are used for mastering to pic small inconsistencies and noises when speakers are used for an actual music creation.

>>59756901
4chan is better than reddit.

There. I did it, and I didn't even need a gun.

>>59757098
>Nigga doesn't even know what a bass trap is, you can bet your ass his setup is far from optimal.
You never know. Cheap speakers can perform surprisingly well. Speakers are almost all down to mathematical measurements when designing the things. Headphones are a lot harder to make sound good due to pad shit among other things.

Knowing what a bass trap doesn't really dictate much either.

>95% of people fall in this category.
Not really. Unless they've just moved into a new house or have very few possessions, a simple carpeted room with a couch and some basic furnishings is more than enough. Shape of the room is pretty standard. Most people have square/rectangular rooms.

You don't need much to do well with speakers, though there are crucial things that can be fucked up.

>>59758308
>Speakers and headphones have different purposes and different sound representations.
I agree, but I doubt for the same reasons.

>Headphones distort less because of smaller speaker
A well designed speaker's is as audible as a well designed headphone.

>and pick up details much easier due to the driver being close to your ear
Driver distance means little in terms of 'detail'.

>hence they are used for mastering to pic small inconsistencies and noises when speakers are used for an actual music creation.
No. Frequency response and decay/reverb is really all that matters. Studios will always pick proper studio monitoring speakers over headphones when applicable. Headphones don't magically pick up more detail.

Do I understand correctly that E10K works as a soundcard? Because I have really shitty onboard audio. And what about all these negative reviews I've read on HeadFi about Fulla 2? They say it breaks after some time with channel imbalance and scratchy noises when you change the volume. I'm from Europe and it would be big problem for me so I guess it's not a good idea to order Fulla 2. The thing is that I will buy active speakers soon and preamp out would be really useful option. Maybe I need to look at Origen+?

>>59740099
second, these are very good sound for the price, and as close to neutral as you'll get at that range

also ety's are subjectively the most comfortable iem's I've ever worn

>>59736059
any anon have pxc 550? Trying to clean the leatherette pads and I'm wondering if I can even remove the pads to clean them or if I should just get a town with them on and clean them.

>>59753666
>Strong bass
Fidelio X2s
>>59753841
>Strong bass
>HD 599
>HD 598
Not even close.

>>59736651
I paid less than 100$ for my K612 pro.

please rate comment and subscribe

>>59758640
>No. Frequency response and decay/reverb is really all that matters.
Yes, frequency response decay does matter and since high frequencies wavelength is shorter, they lose their energy and dissipate in the air faster than low frequencies hence there is an advantage of a driver being close to your ear so high frequencies have less distance to travel and decay less. This can be applied to all frequencies but highs are affected the most and that's why monitoring headphones are usually tuned on the bright side.

>>59758640
>>59759180
>Studios will always pick proper studio monitoring speakers over headphones when applicable.
It still doesn't exclude the use of the headphones for specific purposes. Here is an advise video on mixing with headphones by a college music professor in Boston where he does say that ideally mastering should be done on speakers in a proper environment, I do not argue with that, but he then says that even in those conditions headphones have their uses over speakers and he quotes that for acoustic QQ by a mastering engineering, doesn't sound much fun eh, you gonna use headphones to check for various anomalies and problems that otherwise might get obscured with speakers.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE584rBHIXQ

Is there a good guide for DACs and desktop Amps?

Fuck off to speaker general if you like speakers so much. This thread is for headphones.

>>59759940
Simmer down, anon. You're going to burst a vein.

So how good are the Beyerdynamic Headphone lines? I currently own the Fidelio X2s, yet would like to own a pair of neutral sounding headphones. Are these good or what?

>>59760129
They are more v-shaped than anything else. The closest you can get are maybe DT880s.

>>59760129
Out of the DTXX0 series, only the 880 is neutral. Beyer headphones are built like tanks usually, real nice.

Anyone want to offer their thoughts on Bose QC25 or QC35?

>>59760155
Nice sound cancelling. That's about it; there are better options for everything else.

Alright cool, what would be good for neutral?

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>>59743790
>implying anything is more comfortable than SHP9500s

>>59760227
Hence why I added the question mark, my good anon. :)

>>59760175
Are they OK straight out of the box for listening to music on a phone or computer?

I know absolutely nothing about headphones and DACs, amps, etc.

>>59760152
>Beyer headphones are built like tanks
>no detachable cable

What did Beyer mean by this?

>>59760200
Budget?

>>59760256
They are pretty OK, out of the box; I wouldn't mind listening to music with them, and they are pretty comfy too. There are just better headphones when it comes to sound quality.

>>59760282
100-200, would prefer closed back.

>>59760302
Are you the same guy looking for a pair of noise cancelling headphones?

>>59760302
also, this would be after i get the NFB-11

>>59760315
No

https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=120&cp_id=12009&cs_id=1082302&p_id=16050&seq=1&format=2

Are these worth the hype? Looking to upgrade from HE400i.

>>59760325
Not much experience there; you'd get more answers if you filled out the form.

>>59760356
alright, will do!

>>59736059
>PS: Ignore the trolls. Especially the mentally ill racist ones like TrustyFucks.
WTF is this shit? OP is supposed to be clean of opinions like this.

>>59760402
>Text not fitting in with the rest
>Last thread not including this
>Thread before that not including this
>Thread before that did
That's not our OP, anon.

>>59760332
Don't get them right now. The launch batch came out with a lot of problems like the the wood cracking and channel balancing problems.

>>59760271
It's so you can swing the headphones around like a mace.

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>Budget
~50
>Location
NYC
>Source
Ipod
>Type of headphone
Doesn't matter
>Open or closed
Closed, but it really doesn't matter
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
Don't know how to answer
>Past headphones
Looking for an outside version of the logitech G230.

>>59761257
Creative Aurvana Live.

>>59761300

>70

Wew, do you own these yourself? How are they?

>>59761335
I got em for $50, worth it more at that price.

Sound is good, leans to the warm side. Mids aren't recessed, highs are laid back.
They're really light. Comfortable enough, but I never wear them more than a couple hours.

Budget: 150-200
Location: USA
Source: NFB-11
Type: Closed
Comfort: Preferably comfy, however i wouldn't mind having to break them in a bit.
Sound Signature: Neutral
Past Headphones: X2s

>>59761257
SHP9500S if you are willing to go open. But look away if you're taking them outside.

For SHP 9500 owners, how do you eq them to be more neutral?

I'm pretty new to eqing for headphones; been adding a shelf to boost everything below 50, then cutting a couple db each from 225, 550, 1000, and 5000

>>59761579
AKG k7xx

>>59761807
>Closed

>>59761840
>closed
>neutral
>200 or under
Choose 2

>>59761860
Closed and 200 or under, as long as it sounds different from the x2s, im fine.

>>59761891
M50x

>>59762156
If anon can handle those highs, that is.

>>59762193
He said he wanted something different

>>59762237
Just warning, but personally, i'm used to it.

>>59761891
DT770 80ohms

>>59756330
>I mostly play games and such and everyone complains about the soundstage for the 650.
>everyone
Who? The soundstage in HD600/650 is simply correct (non exaggerated)
>Will I hate the 650 since my current headphones are less neutral?
No, you'll adapt in a few days and then you'll love them. For games particularly, what you want is neutrality. I'd even go further and suggest getting HD600 for the extra neutrality, but either of the two cans should be fine, and they're more close to each other than not.

>>59758877
>e10k vs fulla2
Fulla 2 hands off. More power, far better connectivity options, nicer volume knob, more fair to the original sound (several anons report e10k change the sound, particularly at the bass, even if the bass boost switch is off).

Fulla2 is, however, very new, and the very first batches had a few dodgy QC issues. Most people are alright; I got mine recently and I don't suffer any of these.

>>59762544
I would argue soundstage is more important than neutrality when it comes to gaming.

>>59756330
>>59762544
The HD 650's soundstage is hilariously small for gaming; less than HD 598s which aren't even that large to begin with. Still better headphones overall, but personally, I wouldn't pick them up for gaming.

>the headphone that fits MY budget are the best so there's no reason to spend more than what I can afford

You HD600 fags need to fuck off with this bullshit

>>59762672
Gotta push that "neutrality" meme hard, anon.

>>59762544
>The soundstage in HD600/650 is simply correct
>Small-as-fuck soundstage
Holy shit, do Sennheiser shills really believe this?

>Budget
$1000
>Location
Beijing, China
>Source
Laptop, FiiO E7
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
Don't care
>Comfort level
Needs to be comfy for many hours
>Sound signature
neutral-bass
>Past headphones
DT770, Fidelio X2

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noob here,

anything to look for or avoid when buying 3.5mm auxilary cables? Will cheap shitty cables offer any less audio quality than expensive looking ones? or is it just build quality? (ie- expensive ones look nicer and have a longer lifespan)

>>59762661
I won't only be gaming, so it's not like it's just for that, It's just what I do mostly.

Is the soundstage better than the HD439 since that's a closed back? Sound's okay to me in games at least.

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I just got my first high(er) end DAC/Amp set up with my DT 770s. This is cliche and I hate myself for saying this, but I literally cried. Wave after wave of sensation and hair on end. It's like what I imagine the female orgasm is like. My head was resting over the back of my chair and when I sat up, tears rolled down my face.

This shit changes your life. Thanks for helping me get there, guys.

>>59763080
>tfw I've never cried while listening to music
Maybe this hobby isn't for me

>>59762605
>>59762661
Correctness is more important than everything else.

I do play FPS, too, and prefer HD600 and its "small" soundstage over the HD598 with exaggerated soundstage I also have which used to be my primary cans.

>>59763080
Great. Now get better cans. DT770 are too cheap to drive with an amp. Fuck, if you're right about "high(er) end", then you probably spent more on the amp/dac than your headphones.

>>59762911
The chinkest garbage has really shitty connectors which will fail sooner than not.

Generally, if you buy $6 cables rather than $2 you'll be saving yourself trouble.

Just don't go and buy some $100+ "audiophile" cables. These are likely to be worse than the $6 kind.

>Budget
Around $140
>Location
US
>Source
Shit motherboard sound card
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open since I am talking a lot while using headphones
>Comfort level
Comfort is #1 priority
>Sound signature
Don't really care, something with better bass than my AD700s would me nice I guess.Sound stage is pretty important too since I play games with them occasionally.
>Past headphones
AD700s. Extremely comfortable and can wear for days straight and stay comfortable. They are breaking down now after about 6 or 7 years though.

>>59763327
HD558, HD598se, HD599.

Whatever you can afford.

>>59763343
Thanks. Anything else to check out?

>>59763248
thanks buddy. Another probably retarded question, the cable doesnt need to be made specifically for headphones does it? Im seeing them referred to a lot as "car cables, iphone cables"

and which end of the cable you plug into the computer and which you plug into your headphones doesnt matter does it?

Thanks in advance to anyone who answers

>>59752196
One is open one is closed. Open has better directions cause of soundstage I guess

>>59763429
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
>>59763412
There's the beyers (DT880), but they do have a shitty treble peak flaw, and do offer less value/money.

Maybe some other anon will propose some alternatives... best to stick around until thread's dead and buried. Else, what I suggested (and I do own some HD598) is pretty comfortable and good sounding. The soundstage in the 598 is quite exaggerated, which is nice if you've never had headphones with that trait.

Best travel friendly headphones with a mic? I travel a lot for work and just want something decent to plug into the gaymen laptop when I have downtime. And by travel I don't mean it has to fit in my back pocket, but one that folds up and packs into its own case so that it fits in my backpack easily.

Not looking to spend more than like $80 really, $100 max.

Oh and preferably around ear.

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Budget - Preferably less than 60$, with a hard limit of 100$

Location - Oregon, USA


Source - Laptop and Galaxy S6

Type of headphone - Full sized

Open or closed - I'm not sure, I'll let you decide. I listen mainly to pic related and play of lot of League and Overwatch/shooters. The only concern I have with open headphones are that I'll be traveling on a plane in the summer and will want to listen to music during the flight. Otherwise I'm curious about soundstages.

Comfort level - Not too much of a concern. In most situations the absolute longest I would have these on before taking a break would be an hour.

Sound signature - Bass sure is fun, but I'm a sucker for female singers. I'm not sure enough to make a call.

Past headphones - I'm currently using the meelectronics m6 pro IEMs, and I like their sound a lot. it's clearer than anything I've used before, which isn't saying a lot. I can tell the bass is lacking, though it may be due to silicon tips. My only gripe is the build quality. Both cables snapped at the memory wire due to spring heat and it's slowly tearing away at the cabling. One side of the microphone cable already gave out.

>>59762605
Soundstage isn't that important. Imaging is really what you should look for. Any reasonable amount of soundstage is more than enough. Its why the ATH-ADx series is so great for vidya.

>>59764159
HD600 owner here.

Neutrality > *

For all sorts of music. For watching movies/anime. For playing games. For anything, really. Neutral means sound is shown as it is.

>>59763155
>Great. Now get better cans. DT770 are too cheap to drive with an amp.
What the fuck

>>59762605
Could some of you who think that explain why? I'm not seeing it.

>>59764455
>>59764455
>>59764455
>>59764455

New thread.

>>59759940
Headphones are really just speakers you put on your head.

>>59760152
>the 880 is neutral
Neutral with a massive spike around 8kHz.

>>59764484
With considerable differences in design.

>>59736059
ok come blah blah