/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

"Based on years of conversations, I am convinced that part of the cause of the problem is the tendency to call the system Linux rather than GNU, and describe it as open source rather than free software."

- Richard Stallman

>>59721669
Richard Stallman writes shitty software

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>>59721669

>>59721700
no u

Reminder that people who repost all those GNU/Linux/Stallman texts are literal retards who want to feel smart by bikeshedding about useless things.

>>59722346
>Freedom is useless
Spoken like a true cuckold.

Never messed with Linux in my whole life, should I get Ubuntu or Debian?

>>59722844
Start with Ubuntu, and when you git gud withc to Arch.

>>59722854
>Arch
No.

>>59722854
get out shitposter

>>59722346
see >>59722925

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>>59722844
Ich möchte nur einmal kurz etwas einwerfen. Was Sie als Linux bezeichnen ist in Wahrheit GNU/Linux, oder wie ich es vor kurzem zu bezeichen begonnen habe, GNU plus Linux. Linux an sich ist kein Betriebssystem, sondern eine weitere freie Komponente eines voll Funktionsfähigen GNU Systems, welches durch die GNU corelibs, shell utilities und andere wichtige System Komponente nützlich gemacht wird und ein Betriebssystem ist, wie es durch das POSIX definiert ist.

Viele Computer Nutzer benutzen eine modifizierte Version des GNU Systems jeden Tag ohne es zu bemerken. Durch eine eigenartige Wendung wird die Version von GNU, die heute weit verbreitet ist, oft Linux genannt und viele der Nutzer sind sich nicht bewusst, dass es eigentlich das GNU System ist, welches von dem GNU Projekt entwickelt wurde.

Es existiert wirklich ein Linux, und diese Leute benutzen es, jedoch handelt es sich dabei nur um einen Teil ihres Systems. Linux ist ein Kernel: das Programm im System welches die durch die Maschine bereitgestellten Ressourcen an andere laufende Programme verteilt. Der Kernel ist ein essentieller Teil eines Betriebssystems, aber ohne den Rest des Systems nutzlos; er kann nur in Zusammenarbeit mit dem Rest des Systems funktionieren. Linux wird für gewöhnlich in Kombination mit dem GNU Betriebssystem verwendet: Das ganze System ist eigentlich GNU mit dem Linux Kernel, oder GNU/Linux. Alle so genannten Linux Distributionen sind in Wahrheit Distributionen von GNU/Linux!

>>59722979
>funktionsfähigen
>Systemkomponente
FTFY
Also, I'd change the grammar a little bit (not because it's wrong but rather that it's constructed in a way that it doesn't really feel natural).

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>>59722979
Bavarian version when?

>>59722979
>>59723081
Actually, shell utilities should also be translated as `shell Hilfsmittel' or something similar (since shell is its own word in that regard, it shouldn't be translated like a shell of a slug would be usually).

>>59723138
Hoidei Fotzn.

>>59723138
dont have a bavarian but here is a swiss version:

Ii möcht nur rasch öpis zwüschewörfä. Säb, wo du als Linux bezeichnisch, isch eigentlii GNU/Linux, odr wien ichs sit Neustem nenne, GNU plus Linux. Linux sälber isch keii Betriebssüschtem, sondern einfach ä witerii freii Komponente vomene vollumfänglich funktionstüchtigä GNU Süschtem, wo vo de GNU Kärnbibliotheke, Shell Utensilie und anderä wichtigä Süschtemkomponentä nützlich gmacht wird und as vollständiges OS darstellt, wies definiert wird vuu POSIX.

Vilii Computer-Nutzer nützen jede Tag a modifiziertii Version vum GNU Süschtem, ohni sich dessä überhaupt bewusst z sii. Durch eigenartigii Umständ isch es passiert, dass d Version vuu GNU, wo hützutags wit verbreitet isch, als Linux bezeichnet wird, und vilii Nutzer devo sin sich gar nöd im Klarä, dass es eigentli es GNU Sütschtem isch, entwicklät vum GNU Projekt.

Es git ächt es Linux, und dia Lüt nützen's au, aber es isch ebä nur en Teil vuu ihrem Süschtem. Linux isch dr Kärnel: z Programm im Süschtem, wo d Ressourcä vo dr Maschinä dä Programm, wo am Laufä sin, tut zueteilä. Dr Kärnel isch en essenziellä Teil vumenä Betriebssüschtem, aber für sich alleii zwäcklos; är cha nur funktionierä zemä mit amenä komplettä Betriebssüschtem. Linux wird normalerwiis igsetzt zemä mit em GNU Betriebssüschtem: z ganze Süschtem isch grundsätzlich GNU zemä mit Linux, odr GNU/Linux. Alli vo de sogenanntä Linux Distributionä sind eigentlii Distributionä vu GNU/Linux!

>>59723187
kek & saved

>>59723187
Contributing a morse code version (translates into the english original):

Part I:
.. '-.. .--- ..- ... - .-.. .. -.- . - --- .. -. - . .-. .--- . -.-. - ..-. --- .-. .- -- --- -- . -. - . .-- .... .- - -.-- --- ..- '.-. . .-. . ..-. . .-. .-. .. -. --. - --- .- ... .-.. .. -. ..- -..- , .. ... .. -. ..-. .- -.-. - , --. -. ..- /.-.. .. -. ..- -..- , --- .-. .- ... .. '...- . .-. . -.-. . -. - .-.. -.-- - .- -.- . -. - --- -.-. .- .-.. .-.. .. -. --. .. - , --. -. ..- .--. .-.. ..- ... .-.. .. -. ..- -..- . .-.. .. -. ..- -..- .. ... -. --- - .- -. --- .--. . .-. .- - .. -. --. ... -.-- ... - . -- ..- -. - --- .. - ... . .-.. ..-. , -... ..- - .-. .- - .... . .-. .- -. --- - .... . .-. ..-. .-. . . -.-. --- -- .--. --- -. . -. - --- ..-. .- ..-. ..- .-.. .-.. -.-- ..-. ..- -. -.-. - .. --- -. .. -. --. --. -. ..- ... -.-- ... - . -- -- .- -.. . ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. -... -.-- - .... . --. -. ..- -.-. --- .-. . .-.. .. -... ... , ... .... . .-.. .-.. ..- - .. .-.. .. - .. . ... .- -. -.. ...- .. - .- .-.. ... -.-- ... - . -- -.-. --- -- .--. --- -. . -. - ... -.-. --- -- .--. .-. .. ... .. -. --. .- ..-. ..- .-.. .-.. --- ... .- ... -.. . ..-. .. -. . -.. -... -.-- .--. --- ... .. -..- .

>>59723328
Part II:
-- .- -. -.-- -.-. --- -- .--. ..- - . .-. ..- ... . .-. ... .-. ..- -. .- -- --- -.. .. ..-. .. . -.. ...- . .-. ... .. --- -. --- ..-. - .... . --. -. ..- ... -.-- ... - . -- . ...- . .-. -.-- -.. .- -.-- , .-- .. - .... --- ..- - .-. . .- .-.. .. --.. .. -. --. .. - . - .... .-. --- ..- --. .... .- .--. . -.-. ..- .-.. .. .- .-. - ..- .-. -. --- ..-. . ...- . -. - ... , - .... . ...- . .-. ... .. --- -. --- ..-. --. -. ..- .-- .... .. -.-. .... .. ... .-- .. -.. . .-.. -.-- ..- ... . -.. - --- -.. .- -.-- .. ... --- ..-. - . -. -.-. .- .-.. .-.. . -.. ".-.. .. -. ..- -..- ", .- -. -.. -- .- -. -.-- --- ..-. .. - ... ..- ... . .-. ... .- .-. . -. --- - .- .-- .- .-. . - .... .- - .. - .. ... -... .- ... .. -.-. .- .-.. .-.. -.-- - .... . --. -. ..- ... -.-- ... - . -- , -.. . ...- . .-.. --- .--. . -.. -... -.-- - .... . --. -. ..- .--. .-. --- .--- . -.-. - .

Okay, I've no idea where to look for a log of firefox.
Problem is, I'm trying to get the `watch with mpv' addon working. It doesn't want to start mpv with the video.
So I do the same when running firefox from the shell to look for an error message. And now it's working.
Running firefox again on its own, and it doesn't work any more.
So now I'm looking for some logs to see what could possibly be the culprit, since the addon _is_ working, but nothing relevant is found in /var/* and ~/.xsession-errors doesn't yield any results either.
What are some other places I could look for firefox logs? Or maybe someone knows what the fuck is going on and could tell me.

Part III:
- .... . .-. . .-. . .- .-.. .-.. -.-- .. ... .- .-.. .. -. ..- -..- , .- -. -.. - .... . ... . .--. . --- .--. .-.. . .- .-. . ..- ... .. -. --. .. - , -... ..- - .. - .. ... .--- ..- ... - .- .--. .- .-. - --- ..-. - .... . ... -.-- ... - . -- - .... . -.-- ..- ... . . .-.. .. -. ..- -..- .. ... - .... . -.- . .-. -. . .-.. : - .... . .--. .-. --- --. .-. .- -- .. -. - .... . ... -.-- ... - . -- - .... .- - .- .-.. .-.. --- -.-. .- - . ... - .... . -- .- -.-. .... .. -. . '... .-. . ... --- ..- .-. -.-. . ... - --- - .... . --- - .... . .-. .--. .-. --- --. .-. .- -- ... - .... .- - -.-- --- ..- .-. ..- -. . - .... . -.- . .-. -. . .-.. .. ... .- -. . ... ... . -. - .. .- .-.. .--. .- .-. - --- ..-. .- -. --- .--. . .-. .- - .. -. --. ... -.-- ... - . -- , -... ..- - ..- ... . .-.. . ... ... -... -.-- .. - ... . .-.. ..-. ; .. - -.-. .- -. --- -. .-.. -.-- ..-. ..- -. -.-. - .. --- -. .. -. - .... . -.-. --- -. - . -..- - --- ..-. .- -.-. --- -- .--. .-.. . - . --- .--. . .-. .- - .. -. --. ... -.-- ... - . -- . .-.. .. -. ..- -..- .. ... -. --- .-. -- .- .-.. .-.. -.-- ..- ... . -.. .. -. -.-. --- -- -... .. -. .- - .. --- -. .-- .. - .... - .... . --. -. ..- --- .--. . .-. .- - .. -. --. ... -.-- ... - . -- : - .... . .-- .... --- .-.. . ... -.-- ... - . -- .. ... -... .- ... .. -.-. .- .-.. .-.. -.-- --. -. ..- .-- .. - .... .-.. .. -. ..- -..- .- -.. -.. . -.. , --- .-. --. -. ..- /.-.. .. -. ..- -..- . .- .-.. .-.. - .... . ... --- --.-. .- .-.. .-.. . -.. ".-.. .. -. ..- -..- " -.. .. ... - .-. .. -... ..- - .. --- -. ... .- .-. . .-. . .- .-.. .-.. -.-- -.. .. ... - .-. .. -... ..- - .. --- -. ... --- ..-. --. -. ..- /.-.. .. -. ..- -..- .

>>59723328
>>59723343
Morse code can't have anything other than . and -
You need to convert the slashes and quotes to morse as well.

>>59723372

Generated with:

    sed '
        s/.*/\U&/;s/0/--O/g;s/1/.-O/g;s/2/.J/g;s/3/..W/g;s/4/.V/g;s/5/.H/g;
        s/6/-.H/g;s/7/-B/g;s/8/-Z/g;s/9/--G/g;s/X/-U/g;s/V/.U/g;s/U/.A/g;
        s/Q/-K/g;s/K/-A/g;s/A/.T/g;s/J/.O/g;s/O/-M/g;s/Y/-W/g;s/W/.M/g;
        s/M/-T/g;s/T/- /g;s/H/.S/g;s/B/-S/g;s/S/.I/g;s/L/.D/g;s/Z/-D/g;
        s/D/-I/g;s/I/.E/g;s/C/-R/g;s/F/.R/g;s/R/.N/g;s/P/.G/g;s/G/-N/g;
        s/N/-E/g;s/E/. /g
    '

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>>59722979

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>59723576
ls

>>59723576
sudo dd of=/dev/sda if=/dev/null
try it

>>59723576
w

>>59723576
ed

>>59723667
w -f | sed "s,^ ,,"

>>59723809
Actually, the ^ isn't needed since without the /g flag, sed will only substitute the first match.

>>59723839
It's needed because without it it matches all lines and shit doesn't line-up anymore.

>>59723875
>>59723839
>>59723809
autism

wtf Ubuntu feels like my Android phone. Don't tell me all distros are like that

>emacs
>no localization capabilities
why

new user here

if I'm making partitions and I set root to be 16gb then download 17gb of videos does that mean root is full or am I understanding this wrong

Ok, Ubuntu interface is shitty and slow, everything about it bothers me. Recommend me another distro

>>59724145
Ubuntu

>>59724145
Arch.

>>59724145
Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>59724145
Ubuntu with a different interface.

>>59724100
You save your videos to your home directory, not your root directory.

>>59724213
.

>>59724224
You can't remedy a meme with another meme

>>59724225
What is this

>>59724245
How?

>>59724145
try manjaro i3

>>59724285
is this steam os desktop mode

Currently using void but I hate xbps and the fact that it has no packages. Runit is amazing. I'm considering using Manjaro Openrc because I like Arch; is openrc officially supported?

>>59724100
"root" means several things, it's good to familiarise yourself with them
1. the "root" user (aka superuser), this is similar to "administrator" or "system" in windows, it can do anything, only use it when you need to, if you log into a graphical session as root, you're doing it wrong
2. the folder "/root", this is the home folder of the user "root"
3. the root of the VFS, "/". this is the upper-most directory under which everything is located, while everything appears here, it's important to note that the VFS is virtual (hence the V), the contents is comprised of one or more real or virtual filesystem mounts

>>59724566
top post
>>59724100
when installed, run the command "man hier" which will teach you the rest of the filesystem hierarchy

Is Manjaro based on Arch in the sense that it uses Arch packages, and just tears them more extensively, or is it entirely independent and just based on pacman?

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I want to try Linux Mint, which version should I take?

>>59724801
Based on pacman

What's up, still working on the bspwm guide, just not sure what else I could add. I'm thinking about making the polybar config more in depth. I could also add sections for bspwm modifications that you guys want. Any advice?
https://github.com/Pineabble/easyrice/wiki/bspwm

>>59724812
Ubuntu Cinnamon

>>59724944
doesnt exist

>>59725135
Sry, Ubuntu MATE
Or http://askubuntu.com/questions/94201/how-do-i-install-the-cinnamon-desktop

Is there any way to make my system play a sound with every keystroke?

My typing speed drops about 40 wpm if I can't hear the keystrokes when I have headphones on.

>>59725393
the latency you'd get would probably just fuck you up even more

>>59725393
search on github, there are lots of typwriter emulating programs

Cinnamon or Mate?

>>59725887
Gentoo.

Can I have the tabs in Firefox touch the top of the screen when maximized on xubuntu (or any other distro)?

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>>59725393
Interesting question, hacked this together:

stdbuf -oL xinput test 10 | awk '/ press / { system("espeak beep >/dev/null 2>&1 &") }'

Thoughts?

>>59726377
It becomes funny when you replace beep with cuck.
>virtual 4chan reality.

>>59724481
Anyone? I'm kind of confused as to whether openrc is officially supported or a community thing, and where to get an openrc iso.

Do I really have to call it GNU/Linux? I was fine with it when I thought it was pronounced "G New" but apparently that's not correct. I'd rather not make that sound every time I want to talk about Linux.

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any DEs that use attractive pixelart for its icons?

>>59726672
>de
>icons
They are independent of each other

>>59726631
Djee-Enn-You Lih-Nooks all day long, Lih-Nooks for short.

alias linux="GNU/Linux"

>>59726631
guh noo

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is CDE viable yet?
I want to install ubuntu and replace unity with this

Who else /jfs/ here?

I was directed here from the stupid questions general:

Do any linux distro installers support hassle-free fakeraid? Most I've seen require jumping through hoops to get it to work and I really just want one to recognize my array and install easily.

I'm going to dual boot Win10.

>>59727082
mdadm

So what happened with fontconfig and infinality?
aka
how do i unfuck font

>>59726487
No, it's not. Thus, whenever you install a package that the openrc version (notice the "-openrc" suffix) not available yet, either you have to wait or write that service file yourself.

>>59727088
Sounds like jumping through hoops.

>>59727254
>wanting non standard SOFTWARE FAKE RAID
Then i dont think linux is the operating system you are looking for.

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>>59727269
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Mint Mate or Ubuntu Mate? I can't decide

>>59727269
What I want is a distro that recognizes my array from the installer and doesn't jerk me around trying to install it there by making be start entering command line bullshit.

It's not about being non- standard, it's about automation.

I've used plenty of distros, I was just wondering if any of them are able to do what a windows installer can do in 3-4 clicks.

>>59727336
You dont have an array, you have a software array, meaning its not portable and you will have to configure it on each and every install you ever go to.

Solution:
Dont use shitty FAKE software raid

>>59727328
Ubuntu

>>59727414
Why?

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Someone posted these instructions for compiling from source in another thread. Will this put me on the right track or is it a trick? Is it really this easy? People make a lot of fuss about compiling from source being difficult, idk this seems too easy.

>>59727394
It's created through my BIOS. All I have to do is give windows a driver and it recognizes the array right from the installer.

Do you have any idea of a Linux distro that does that as easily, or are you just going to continue being condescending and reaffirm why the linux desktop is never going to reach the masses?

>>59725837
Thanks, I wasn't sure what to google really.

>>59725463
Yeah, I'm not totally sure the effect I'm getting is quite the same as hearing the key go down before the keypress registers, and the sloppy python script I found apparently slow-busywaits 0.02 seconds reading keymap events and then shells out to a separate command to play the click. I may just end up writing my own.

>>59727473
GNU/Linux*

>>59727473
see >>59722925

>>59727460
They skipped the part in between ./configure and make where your system is missing a half dozen dependencies and you have to install them manually.

Other than that, no it's not really that convoluted.

>>59727500
Pointing out that someone is being condescending doesn't mean I'm unfriendly.

>>59727533
That's covered if you have all of the prerequisites from above though right?

>>59727559
You're right, I guess I can't read.

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>>59727578
Cool thanks

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Let's not let this thread turn into a horrible mess like the last foogy looty

>>59727597
>i just wanna know where you got those linux isos
The old men low key want to get some too because they think they can make money off of them.

When ever i try to connect unbound to dnscrypt, it errors and faults out with no error
What am i missing?

/etc/unbound/unbound.conf

do-not-query-localhost: no
forward-zone:
  name: "."
  forward-addr: 127.0.0.1@5353

/usr/lib/systemd/system/dnscrypt-proxy.socket

[Socket]
ListenStream=
ListenDatagram=
ListenStream=127.0.0.1:5353
ListenDatagram=127.0.0.1:5353

>>59727082
>>59727269
It is literally like 3 or 4 commands to make a RAID from empty drives/partitions.
1. zero out the superblocks (if you had an old array, don't need to with fresh)
2. --create, with the raid type you want specified
3. cat /proc/mdstat
4. not related to raid, but partition the space that now exists in /dev/md<number> that is your new raid

Just google "RAID arch wiki" or for an even easier time, "mdadm how to create raid X"

And if you don't see your RAID after a reboot or something, the command is "sudo mdadm --scan --assemble" to bring it online.

>>59727434
Mint, mainly for the Mint Menu (like the start menu, has a text search) and better defaults.

If I were you, I would download virtualbox and try a liveCD of both of them. Just click around a bit and whichever one you like more after a couple minutes, use that one.

Also I think Mint has more easily googleable support.

>>59727967
>>Also I think Mint has more easily googleable support.
Any search results for Ubuntu will be applicable to both and vice versa

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>>59727967
https://github.com/solus-project/brisk-menu

>>59727967
mint is just ubuntu made worse and painted nice so newfriends like it

>>59728286
But it was a newfriend I recommended it to.
Also their update system is entirely different.

What syslog do i install to be able to view systemd logs?

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>>59727967

>>59728315
OpenRC

What filepicker do i install to be able to view thumbnails?

>>59728344
what's wrong with systemd

>>59728319
Good info. I do with there was a list of changes that Mint has made to Ubuntu, so I could pick and choose my own parts of those changes, but still be able to end up with the sameish result.

For example, I have never managed to get fonts in Debian to look as good as Mint/Ubuntu.

Is there ANY distro that ISNT a meme in any way?

>>59728171
What distro is that?

>>59727207
Fuck. I'll probably just go back to Arch. I want to like void but I miss the AUR.

>>59728171
sweet thanks for bringing this to my attention.

run gnome 3 on the desktop, but on my thinkpad, MATE is my go-to. this menu looks neat, will check it out.

Anyone know how to change the system wide monospace default font? Google is being surprisingly unhelpful with "linux change system monospace font". I'm using Mint MATE.

>>59728476
Stop using Google. It's NSA botnet.

>>59728476
literally first result

>>59728476
would recommend dropping mint, but if you want to stick with that mess of a derivative of a less messy derivative, then just check the MATE settings.

Is Solus ok for a newfag? It's pretty

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>systemd

What's a minimal distro that has a large amount of software available, doesn't require me to build from source and doesn't use systemd? I want a lot of the AUR's packages, mostly fonts, gtk themes and stuff like that I'm too lazy to manually install. (As well as a few useful programs). Also appreciate a clear policy on nonfree software in the repos. Deblobbed kernel would also be interesting, but useless for me because I need iwlwifi anyway)

>>59728576
Parabola, uses systemd, but you could follow any instructions to replace it that work for Arch.

>>59728400
But Ubuntu fonts are ugly

>>59728576
That distro doesn't exist.

>>59728568
Very new distro. Few users and developers. It has a decent amount of software, but is missing quite a lot compared to arch, fedora, Debian, Ubuntu and Gentoo. It has a new package manager which is quite inconvenient for new users imo. You'll get less support online because few people use it but the solus forums and irc are helpful. Updates are handled either from command line or with help of a graphical updater. It does look nice but lags a little if you have a shitty CPU or terrible integrated gpu. I'd just stick with Ubuntu gnome, Debian or something similar if you want nice looks. It's not really worth choosing an immature distro because of the looks, any distro can look however you want.

>>59728520
Didn't work, why you do think I mentioned the string I used?

>>59728633
>any distro can look however you want
This, font size 50px on distrowatch would solve thousand problems.

>>59728653
kek

>>59728677
well some people love tinkering, some just want something that look good ootb

>run program
>displays it's version in the upper left corner
>tfw looks pretty shiet tbqh
>dl source
>delet annoying string
>compile
>install
>run program
>everything looks nice

I fucking love free software.

systemd

fite

how good is Manjaro openrc? Is its nature as a community project going to make it less usable than systemd?

>>59728653
Thanks, for some reason that lists "Monospace 10", but the terminal preferences list "Monospace Regular 12" as the system fixed width default. Very strange, but a good lead.

>>59728741
fuck off

>>59728741
(poorly worded illogical anti systemd and red hat bait)

>>59728766
(poorly worded and illogical bait supporting systemd)

>>59728766
>>59728792
(poo)

stop

redpill me on gnome

>>59728825
systemd

>>59728862
GNU/Linux*

>>59728876
*systemd/Linux

>>59728825
~ Im memory of hakon, bug reporter ~

How many packages does Gentoo have compared to the AUR? Mostly interested in fonts and themes.

How do I open the "task manager" on Ubuntu?

>>59728893
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141154

>>59728924
gnome-system-monitor

>>59728986
Let's say I'm on a full screen program and it crashes

what desktop environment do I use
i don't want windows clone
and i don't want "simplicity" or "elegenace"

>>59729012
CTRL+ALT+F1

>>59728919
stop thinking in "AUR", git clone; make is all you need on any distro

>>59729017
none, use a wm

What's literally the best distro which /fglt/ recommends?

>>59729055
so the whole screen is just a terminal and i launch everything by command?

>>59729081
Well, if a program feezes and you're stuck, you can go to the tty and kill it, Much more comfy ofc are hotkeys for doing these jobs (open system monitor, terminal with htop, kill current window, etc)

>>59728428
Solus MATE. They're the ones who made brisk menu. It's okay, it's lacking a favorites category and I prefer the traditional applications/places/system menu on MATE but it's interesting.

>>59729076
The one I'm using.

>>59721586
So selecting 1920x1080 in Display crashes my monitor, but using this command makesthe display perfect. Ubuntu 16.04.

xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode 1920x1080 --right-of DVI-0

I don't want to have to run this fucking command every time I log in. I'm using a 52" TV.

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>>59729076
Manjaro is the official distro of /fglt/

>>59729119
wait, solus is a real non-meme distro? i always thought it some shit made up by that kevin guy

>>59729164
drop it in ~/.xprofile

>want to install Gentoo
>have no ability to connect to the internet w/ ethernet, only USB wireless card or USB android tethering


What's the best way to ensure that I can get a connection through one of those methods, /g/. Should I just use another liveCD/USB for the installation rather than official Gentoo CD?

>>59728825
windowsification of GNU/Linux

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>>59729171
They're making a good effort it's just young and not really recommended for beginners because of what that entails. It's fine if you want to stick with only the packages that are in their relatively small repos but if you venture outside of that you're going to need to do more advanced things and if you run into any problems google isn't going to be much help since it isn't based on an existing distro.

>>59729186
xprofile is blank. Is this normal?

>>59728825
It's okay. I use it sometimes.

>>59729229
>xprofile is blank. Is this normal?
Yes. Create it.

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>he uses NetworkManager

is solus a linux distro?

>>59729076
ubunboo

>>59729304
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59729338
is solus a GNU plus Linux distro?

>>59729076
Source Mage GNU/Linux

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>he isn't using vertex-maia
tasteless


>>59729304
Yes

>>59729359
>>59729304
no

There's this audio improvement thing in Windows where it will bring sounds to around the same perceivable level. What this means is if I'm watching a video and the volume suddenly goes up (i.e the guy shouts or loud music plays) it will bring it down. I tend to fall asleep with Youtube and the background but with Linux it's impossible because I can't find this feature or something similar.
Any suggestions? I'm using Linux Mint

>>59729365
>he isn't using transmission-daemon w/ tui/cli interface

>>59729409
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59729030
in my experience the AUR is a lot simpler
>want to install font
>clone repo, run provided install script
>fonts don't show up
>get the same package from the AUR
>Just works

systemd just works wtf

>>59729495
wtf?? I LOVE LENNART NOW!!

>>59729030
>git clone; make is all you need on any distro
How to keep track of updates then?

What distros are POSIX compliant?

>>59729675
man git

>>59730080
There is no solution here

>>59730061
most fsf approved ones are pretty compliant
only distros without systemd can be considered compliant because it throws POSIX out the window (poettering has explicitly said that he doesn't care about non Linux support, like bsd, and it doesn't work for anything other than Linux). That basically leaves guix.

>>59730251
not enough cpu power to support it

>>59730251
lol that's a funny terminal haha

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>>59730298
It's not that bad

>>59730314
I think you misspelled powerful and extensible

>>59730251
>tfw unironically use atom
maybe i should stop being lazy and pick up emacs or vim

>>59730251
do you know the name and address of the one who made this?
asking for a friend

>>59730342
https://hyper.is/
https://github.com/zeit (me)

Say I'm creating a new pool in virt-manager, I have the option of specifying a directory for that pool or just using a raw disk - which is better?

lel, Linux foundation hating on GPL http://fossforce.com/2017/04/lin-desktop-linux-gpl-openness/

>>59729240
I dropped it in xprofile and now it's fucked on startup. Posting from a Windows PC.

>>59730384
No idea how people always connect copyleft licenses with "more restrictive", when the only "restriction" simply makes sure that software can't be motr restricted - while "less restrictive" licenses allow further restrictions.

At the end of the day you have more "restictive" proprietary when using a "less restictive" than using a "more restictive" copyleft license.

>>59730497
Guess I got a bit lost while typing this ...

>>59730502
kek, got ya

>>59729365

>his theme is intrusive and distracting

I don't even notice my theme, because that's how they're supposed to be.

>>59729365
>titlebar
>menu
>toolbar
>takes 1/3 of screen
why

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>>59730469
Kek. Log into tty and fix it.

After it boots up, not while, hit CTRL + ALT F2 to open a tty terminal and login. It will ask your username then pass.

Then :

nano ~/.xprofile

and remove everything and save (CTRL+ X)

restart and fixed

>>59729462
'just werks' computing keeps people at retard level

>>59730469
>Windows PC
WC*

>>59730535
Functional. It's not a web browser nor is it full screen.

>>59730516
>I don't even notice my theme, because that's how they're supposed to be.
This fag doesn't even realize that he's just desensitized to his theme colors. Probably some gay blue.

every time i decide on a linux distro its usually about looks, but i realized that the what i'd truly like most is to just boot into linux and the only thing that is visible is the terminal emulator of my choice and from there I launch windows with what i assume would open in a windows manager. As a super casual linux user whos only ever installed a distro and used it, how do I go about having a terminal emulator as my desktop environment?

>>59730577
GNU/Linux*

>>59730555
>restart
forgot

sudo reboot now

or

sudo shutdown now

Hitting the power button will probably shut it down too though

>>59730570
>Functional
learn2hotkey, stop clicking buttons

>>59730497
Copyleft licencses, if you use code with it, forces you to do something (like giving out the sourcce code)
Permissive licencses don't force you to do shit.

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>>59730593
Stop telling people how they should use their PCs you pretentious prick

>>59730577

Your terminal emulator cannot be a desktop environment.
Your desktop environment consists of multiple programs, like a window manager, a file manager, a taskbar, a notification daemon, a program launcher, a wallpaper setter and other things.

What you want is an X11 session with nothing but a window manager that runs a terminal emulator on startup. Of course that's retarded and soon you'll realize that you want a taskbar, a wallpaper, notifications, a file manager and other utilities.

>>59730598
Copyleft licences, if you use code with it, makes sure that nobody can force you to do something you don't want (since you have the source code). Permissive licences support development of proprietary software that controls you.

>>59729186
WRONG. YOU ARE FAKE NEWS.

Trying to run a game I installed through wine and it won't even start but is stuck asking for me to put the CD in. I'm pretty sure my wine CD drive is set up properly and i have the the ISO mounted on /dev/loop0 when I run the game and it still refuses to start. Am I missing something or is this just some kind of DRM breaking in wine?

>>59730622
You are talking about a users point of view. It's quite different for developers.
This also assumes that you have the source code, how else would you use the code for your development?

The current situation is shit no matter how you look at it. Not only there are dozens of different licences, there are even projects with multiple licences and trying to figure out which part of it is under which licencse is not fun at all.

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>>59729164
>>59730469
Doesn't your DE have something like pic related? Just checked. It does.

>>59730469
Should have put it in .profile not .xprofile

>>59730630
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xprofile

did you do it right though?

>>59730469
You most likely didn't add "&" after the command.

>>59730800
that's not neded for a command that just executes and exits like xrandr you doofus

systemd is alright

>>59730822
except for when it's not.
which is most of the time.

I could use systemd

>>59730384
open source team being faggots is no news

I can use systemd

>>59730681
>It's quite different for developers.
Developers that want to use free code to make proprietary software can go choke on a dick desu

what's the best systemd tutorial out there?

>>59730384
thank god for red hat caring about desktop users
unlike the linux foundation

>>59730919

Nigga, for a casual user all you have to know is "systemctl start/disable/enable" and "journalctl".

>>59730970
ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>59730910
It's not about making free code proprietary

>>59730919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0xoCA_qO58

>>59730375
Thanks for the help instead of the constant bickering about systemd and what distro people use use anons!

This truly is /cancerlinuxgeneral/

For the record, I formatted the disk as f2fs and just used a path for the new pool.

>>59731147
systemd is a suite of basic building blocks for a Linux system. It provides a system and service manager that runs as PID 1 and starts the rest of the system. systemd provides aggressive parallelization capabilities, uses socket and D-Bus activation for starting services, offers on-demand starting of daemons, keeps track of processes using Linux control groups, maintains mount and automount points, and implements an elaborate transactional dependency-based service control logic. systemd supports SysV and LSB init scripts and works as a replacement for sysvinit. Other parts include a logging daemon, utilities to control basic system configuration like the hostname, date, locale, maintain a list of logged-in users and running containers and virtual machines, system accounts, runtime directories and settings, and daemons to manage simple network configuration, network time synchronization, log forwarding, and name resolution.

>>59731147
np

>>59731147
well shit good thing nobody helped your obnoxious entitled ass

>>59731147
hey kid, go play someplace else, the grown ups are debating serious stuff

>>59731147
systemd is serious busyness

Why do the majority of distros still use Grub2 and why do they use it when the piece of shit can't even let me boot off an ext4 partition?

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>>59730384

>>59730683
what font is that?

>>59731234
they still haven't seen the light
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd-boot

>>59731234

Works for me an millions of other people. That means you're very stupid, even more so because you're blaming software.

>>59731167
GNU/Linux*

>>59731256

That only works for UEFI systems.

>>59731270
>not using UEFI
the 2000's called, they want their deprecated BIOS back

>>59731258
It doesn't work, not unless it got updated in the last 3 months or something.

People like me who have GPT drives and want to boot from an ext4 partition can't do so.
>>59731278
Deprecated by what

>>59731300
seriously, try systemd-boot

>>59731312
I don't have uefi on the laptop I use for Linux

>>59731300

>GPT
I had no problems setting up a GPT disk with EXT4. All you have to do is create a 2MB partition At the beginning, that's all and it's all explainedo nline.

>>59731319
>not having UEFI on the laptop he uses for Linux
well then you can't use systemd-boot
I'd buy a new laptop if I were you

why does systemd-boot even exist?

>>59731342
literally for you to ask (I can't make up another reason for the life of me)

well systemd isn't THAT bad...

what's wrong with systemd?

>>59731342

Because it existed before systemd, it was called gummiboot and it's one of the most simple UEFI boot managers.

>>59731329
That's exactly what I'm complaining about, moron. That partition can't be ext4.
>>59731330
I have a newer laptop but it has a poo intel GPU, i like to play vidya sometimes and yes i have lots of native GOG vidya that work fine

>>59731381
so why is it called systemd-boot now?

>>59731369
>>59731379
>hardcode Google's DNS into the network manager
Yeah, I wonder what's so bad about systemd...

>>59731389
what the fuck, some please confirmt his isn't real

>>59731383

Then don't make it an ext4 partition, problem solved.

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>binary logs

>>59731389

Change it yourself, or even better, use a distribution. Package managers for distributions change that during packaging.
They have reasons for using Google's (as far as I know, you can't use the pool.ntp.org servers for that).

>>59731394

Kill yourself for just blindly believing things (including my post) and not spending 2 minutes to find out yourself.

>>59731395
Argh you faggot, the whole point of my post is that grub2 is shit because i still need a winshit partition type.
We should be able to do everything through ext4. Fuck fat32.

>>59731413
well it's YOUR fault

>>59731394
It's real https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=761658

>>59731410
>Change it yourself
What a splendid idea. I should just fix the broken mess that Poettering initiated and then keep on fixing it because the systemd devs won't learn and will keep on producing bullshit. Brilliant. Here's a better idea: don't use systemd.

some ideas:
sud, privilegues
cored, kernel layers
windowd, window system
moduled, exclusive drivers

>>59731413

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/BIOS-installation.html

I don't see any mention of fat32.

What's the go with Wayland and Xorg? If I'm using i3 as a WM do I need Xorg or can I use Wayland?

>>59731433

>broken
It's DNS servers and they work. There's a 99% chance that your distribution isn't using Google's by default. You have no idea what you're talking about. You also most likely use systemd, but you post retarded thoughts like this to feel smart for once in your life, by copying other people's edgy opinions since you deem them to be bold and you think it makes you appear knowledgeable. You go out of your way to get "triggered".
Kill yourself.

>>59731443

i3 is an X window manager. You cannot use it with Wayland.
Use Sway, which is very similar to i3, but is a Wayland compositor.

>>59731440
>moduled, exclusive drivers
Nice idea. Combined with hashsum checks that only allow specific modules, moduled could even improve security.

>>59731476

>i don't understand distribution packaging policies and common practices and i didn't follow the discussion around the topic when it was discussed
>i will just call it a shitpost because i have no idea what i'm talking about and i was wrong and i have no counter arguments
Kill yourself.

>>59731467
Welcome to Windows.

>>59731482
>>59731454
Could you please stop suggesting suicide ITT? This is a friendly thread.

>>59731454
>being this buttflustered
Whatever you say, brosef.

Sure those DNS work, but their also Google's. I can't stand people that are just ok with being spied on because "lol I got nothing to hide"
I bet you also carry a smartphone around with you all day wherever you go and go on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram, are an avid user of various instant messengers and what not.

>>59731454
>>59731482

>dns
Wait, I confused this with the NTP "issue". Either way, the point still stands, it will be changed downstream by the distribution packagers.

what's your favorite system clock sync server?

what's the best dns server?

>>59731525
8.8.8.8

>>59731525
mine

>>59731532
botnet

What's the perfect server distro

http://www.strawpoll.me/12673281
http://www.strawpoll.me/12673281
http://www.strawpoll.me/12673281

>>59731593
the best isn't listed, didn't vote

>>59731593
RHEL. With Red Hat, you can get a full stack of tools that are guaranteed to work well together (Ansible Tower, Ceph, Satellite).

Not sure about SUSE, heard it's used a lot in Europe.

>>59731618
fuck off retard

>>59731621
Well, what would you choose?

>>59731605
The only decent contenders are listed, you special snowflake bitch

>>59731631
>fedora
>perfect server OS
kek

>>59731628
Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>59731638
>Perfect
>I didn't say perfect
Back to red it, bitch

>>59731645
Thought you were >>59731593

>>59731645
>>59731655
>thinking there's more than one Anon ITT
You both need to go back.

Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly window manager for daily use?

>>59731590
It's a DNS server...
It's not a human operator, define a dns that isn't a 'bot net'

>>59731714
+tiling

>>59731714
dwm

>>59731714
tmux

Are proprietary wifi blobs/drivers botnet? Please only serious replies. If I'm running entirely free software aside from them, can the botnet still spy on me?

>>59731254
Cantarell Regular 10

>>59732046
>Are proprietary wifi blobs/drivers botnet?
nobody knows because nobody knows what nonfree software really does, so you can assume yes and no
>If I'm running entirely free software aside from them, can the botnet still spy on me?
if you use dis-services like facebook etc and don't block tracking ads, yes, if you stay away from these, no, so you again, yes and no

Is the root file system where the OS is installed so to say? I'm trying to understand partitioning and how big I should make them. A lot of people have /home partitoned, and some have /boot, /var, and obviously the swap.

>>59732046
Nowadays it's hard not to be spied on, but running entirely free software and not using facebook/google helps a lot.
That said, it's hard to have an entirely free system nowadays since even CPUs (post-2008) run nonfree code with full system access.
That said, you shouldn't care less and still fight back by rejecting nonfree software whenever you can.

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I'm wanting to set up a triple boot on my laptop. Currently I'm running Windows 10 and Manjaro and I would like to install Parabola as a 3rd. Have any of you done anything similar? Any tips?

>>59732211
Just replace Windows 10 with Parabola.

>>59732159
No reason for separate /var or anything like that. Swap is necessary if you have a small amount of ram (under 8gb) or want to hibernate (like a laptop. in that case you need more than your ram). If it's the only mount point, / stores every file. It contains /home and /boot, as well as /var. If you make a separate mount point for /home, it is a subfolder of /, but located on a different drive. this can be useful if you have two drives, you could mount / on the smaller SSD and /home on your hard drive. All system components are stored on /- this is 2-10gb by default depending on distro. Further software is generally installed here, but isn't that large. At least 20gb is necessary, 40 is good if you have the space. /home stores pictures, documents, downloads, config files and some installed programs (steam games). If you have one drive, there's no need for a separate /home. Just mount / and home will already exist. If you plan to switch distros without losing your data, you can keep /home separate, so that it isn't wiped when switching distros. /boot is sometimes needed to be separate for special configurations, but I like to keep it on /. (for ext4 at least).

>>59732223
I would but I like to play newer games. One day I'll be able to afford another HDD or 2. Not today though.

>>59732114
>>59732189
well that's sad
but unlike nvidia drivers, they're pretty small, so you can't fit that much botnet in them right? i guess it's kind of pointless worrying about that with a literal below OS level hardware backdoor. fucking thanks, (((intel))).

>>59723576
man

>>59732255
https://minifree.org/ free systems down to the hardware (libreboot doesn't work with cucked cpus).

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>>59732240
>>59732159
>No reason for separate /var or anything like that
There is if you're using a hybrid system with an SSD and a HDD. /var is constantly changing and does a lot of writing so it's a good idea to not keep it on your SSD if possible. Same case with /home.

>if you have one drive, there's no need for a separate /home
Unless you ever want to reinstall or switch to a new distro. You should never advise for someone to not separate /home from root, there are no downsides but it has benefits. Many people will wind up disappointed at some point if they leave /home with root.

>>59732299
>tfw to poor to be free

>>59732240
so my 8gb desktop which i never hibernate won't need a swap partition?

New thread please.
Also where is juggs OP?

How do i convert a good qual .mp4 or .flv to .gif?

>>59732335
ffmpeg -i a.mp4 b.gif

>>59732343
nice meme

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GNU Thread
NEW
>>59732373
>>59732373
>>59732373
>>59732373
>>59732373
NEW
GNU Thread

>>59732240
>>59732321
If you run out of RAM, without swap, your system will either kill programs to get back memory, or crash. If you never use all of your memory, no need for swap. If you plan on doing gaming, beyond pixel Indie games, or programming/compiling, I'd probably add at least 4gb of swap just in case, unless you're absolutely in need of extra drive space.

>>59721586
sheeeit since the last update, the thumbnails are always generating again.
Looks like something is wrong with the cache
Any idea ?

>>59727478
your best bet would be a microphone, hooked up to a simple analog amp which is spliced into the cable coming from your pc to your headphones (2*male > female y-splitter)
this way you can hear the typing

>>59724812
The one that isn't botnetted? Iso must be at least 18 months old. Why is this distro even around? It's literally just Ubuntu with Cinnamon.

>>59734003
>Why is this distro even around?
It's the flagship distro for Cinnamon made by the Cinnamon devs.