/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

BSD is better, Linux is a commie cuck license

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>>59710051
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59710063
Still a cuckold OS

>>59707689
Hopeful bump

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>>59710051
>the linux license

Friendly reminder that ext2 is the only file system you need. Any securely destroyed data via shred can be recovered via journaling in ext3 and ext4.

>>59710334
ext4 has better data recovery methods, and secure deletion doesn't really exist

>>59710400
It's difficult to recover files destroyed via shred especially once you zero it.

>>59710425
difficult, not impossible
just use encryption if you need to keep your data safe

>>59710439
I'm talking if I need sensitive data destroyed, that's what shred is for.

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>>59710459
doesn't work reliably on an ssd

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My Japanese fonts suck shit and I need some help.

Basically, I took a look at what font amazon.co.jp is using, found it online on github, and installed it.

BUT, they are rendered like shit and without antialiasing. Pic related.

Wat do?

Also, I remember seeing references to

fonts.conf 

in the past. Is it possible to use that conf file to somehow "target" this font and force anti-aliasing?

Hope one of you font experts can help. Thanks so much!

PS: I use a regular freetype2 install with bitmapped fonts disabled. I don't use infinality or any other font rendering hacks.

good thread

>>59710017
>GNU
Forced communism isn't freedom.

>>59711351
>microsoft
forced capitalism isn't freedom

>>59711389
nobody told you it is faggot child.

>>59711389
>capitalism
there is no capitalism left in the world
all the banks are a cartel and all the governments are bought by the guys that sell you stuff

How long do you think it would take to set up a basic arch + i3wm (gaps) system on a netbook if I have little experience with Arch and have been used to GUI installers in the past? I've distrohopped over the years including using arch based distros such as antergos.

Quick question— installing an arch dualboot alongside Windows 10— do I install GRUB? Will it overwrite the BIOS on my motherboard?

>>59711545
if you follow how-tos it should take like an hour at worst

>>59711845
>>59711545
by that me means not the archwiki's
they leave out a lot like manual install of xorg and so on

Anyone here built cross Linux from scratch?

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>be me
>upgrade Manjaro earlier today
>sudo pacman -Syu
>updates available
>update the manjaro-system and archlinux-keyring which then says I have like (90) packages to update
>decide not to finish because I have to leave so I say fuck it I'll do it when I get back
>(y/n) n
>sudo shutdown now
>won't boot into lightdm when I get back
>worried that I won't be able to fix it
>think maybe I'll go with Arch proper or Antergos if I can't
>feels bad man because I liked Manjaro
>remember removing depreciated symlinks when I updated manjaro-system
>got eem.png
>put on my programming socks
>log into tty like a boss
>sudo pacman -Syu
>finish update confident that it will work
>sudo reboot now
>everything works as expected
>like Manjaro even more now

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>>59712045

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>>59710051
The idea that Richard Stallman or the GPL is communist is slanderous and the idea is often perpetrated by makers of proprietary software, including Bill Gates, in an attempt to discredit and suppress the ideas of free and open source software. Here is some his thoughts on this subject as well as some additional information to help dispel this fiction.


-https://stallman.org/archives/2015-nov-feb.html
>I advocate a mixture of capitalism (allow private businesses) and socialism (regulate them tightly, tax them a lot, and keep them small).


-https://stallman.org/notes/2015-may-aug.html
>Today's unchecked form of capitalism allows the invisible hand to crush people and toss their corpses on the scrap heap.
>The capitalism that the US had in 1970 was much better than the kind we have today. Thus, I don't conclude that any whiff of capitalism is bad, the way Ayn Rand thought about community. Rather, I say that capitalism must be compensated by community, and effectively regulated by democracy.

-https://stallman.org/notes/2014-mar-jun.html
>Before Reagan, capitalism as practiced in the US created a large middle class, and even workers could get by. We could make this happen again, if we defeat plutocracy.

>The example of China has demonstrated since the 90s that capitalism will not bring freedom to a former Communist country. Now the example of North Korea shows that it does not even necessarily put a limit on the general level of oppression.

-“Free Software in Ethics and Practice” talk at CMC MSU, Moscow, Russia
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrJpXJY4Oow
>Isn't it ironic that the proprietary software developers call us communists? We are the ones who have provided for a free market, where they allow only monopoly.

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>>59712139
-"Bill Gates and Other Communists" by Richard Stallman
-https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bill-gates-and-other-communists.en.html
>Bill Gates discussed patents with CNET under the heading of “intellectual property,” a term that covers many disparate laws. He said anyone who won't give blanket support to all these laws is a Communist. Since I'm not a Communist but I have criticized software patents, I got to thinking this calumny might be aimed at me.

>Mr. Gates' secret is out now—he too was a “Communist,” he too recognized that software patents were harmful, until Microsoft became one of these giants. Now Microsoft aims to use software patents to impose whatever price it chooses on you and me. And if we object, Mr. Gates will call us “Communists.”

>https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html
>In the United States, any advocate of other than the most extreme form of laissez-faire selfishness has often heard this accusation. For example, it is leveled against the supporters of a national health care system, such as is found in all the other industrialized nations of the free world. It is leveled against the advocates of public support for the arts, also universal in advanced nations. The idea that citizens have any obligation to the public good is identified in America with Communism. But how similar are these ideas?

>Communism as was practiced in the Soviet Union was a system of central control where all activity was regimented, supposedly for the common good, but actually for the sake of the members of the Communist party. And where copying equipment was closely guarded to prevent illegal copying.

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>>59712156
>By contrast, I am working to build a system where people are free to decide their own actions; in particular, free to help their neighbors, and free to alter and improve the tools which they use in their daily lives. A system based on voluntary cooperation and on decentralization.

>Thus, if we are to judge views by their resemblance to Russian Communism, it is the software owners who are the Communists.

-FOSS is not classless

FOSS development communities definitely have classes represented by things such as time spent within the community, amount of contributions made, and type of contributor (developer, systems engineer, designer etc).

-FOSS is not moneyless

People do make money off of FLOSS. It may not be through the sale of the software, but there are other methods with which to make money such as support.

-FOSS is not stateless

Though many think of FOSS development in terms of developer communities, many of the projects being developed are a part of larger efforts such as the Red Hat / Fedora Project relationship.

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>>59712180

Communism forces resource distribution(socialism encourages equitable resource distribution across the masses). FOSS software does not encourage any forced distribution of code, its completely voluntary to give out a framework, library (in other words its a commons good) as free and FOSS.

Communism in its purest form abolishes class distinctions (no country has pulled this off till date). FOSSF projects maintains a meritocratic class order. For example, some contributors are more trusted and given more access privileges for commits. You have to first identify yourself as a good committer by submitting high quality patches at a regular basis and thereafter maintainers give you privileges to contribute. Often these core contributors are employed by corporations just for that activity as a full time job.

People make money out of libre software all the time (and have gotten huge amounts of market capitalization due to that). Docker is a recent example in the tech world. Communist societies keep money flow under state control.

**Don't listen to Bill Gates. The libre software movement isn't communism.**

>>59712191
Are you from eightchan like me? Fucking hackers.

>>59712139
>>59712156
>>59712180
>>59712191
Stallman, please leave.

>>59712231
t. CIA

He may be a leftist, but he isn't a communist.

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>>59712226
>Are you from eightchan like me? Fucking hackers.
No. Did this get posted there or something? I go there sometimes but /tech/ is too slow and lacks a decent thread watcher even with atechinX. I compiled this a couple of weeks ago to debunk retards and shills who keep saying this.

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>>59712139
"Isn't it ironic that the proprietary software developers call us communists? We are the ones who have provided for a free market, where they allow only monopoly."
Yes, yes it is

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Is trisquel a meme?

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is it possible to make this into a terminal thumbnailer script?

#!/bin/bash
#
# z3bra -- 2014-01-21

test -z "$1" && exit

W3MIMGDISPLAY="/usr/lib/w3m/w3mimgdisplay"
FILENAME=$1
FONTH=14 # Size of one terminal row
FONTW=8  # Size of one terminal column
COLUMNS=`tput cols`
LINES=`tput lines`

read width height <<< `echo -e "5;$FILENAME" | $W3MIMGDISPLAY`

max_width=$(($FONTW * $COLUMNS))
max_height=$(($FONTH * $(($LINES - 2)))) # substract one line for prompt

if test $width -gt $max_width; then
height=$(($height * $max_width / $width))
width=$max_width
fi
if test $height -gt $max_height; then
width=$(($width * $max_height / $height))
height=$max_height
fi

w3m_command="0;1;0;0;$width;$height;;;;;$FILENAME\n4;\n3;"

tput cup $(($height/$FONTH)) 0
echo -e $w3m_command|$W3MIMGDISPLAY

taken from here
http://blog.z3bra.org/2014/01/images-in-terminal.html

>>59712341
No, eightchan is fucking b0rked. Some faggot played a
LOL TOTLAY AWSOM APRUL FOOLS JOEK
and broke the site

>>59712464
>No advantage over debian and ubuntu
>More obscure than debian and ubuntu
>Less up to date than debian and ubuntu
Yes.

>>59712508
possible

>>59712602
I have no idea how to print out images next to each othre though

>>59710017
Can someone help me? I just hooked up the HDMI to my Linux box, but it just turns to shit when I select 1920x1080. Not even usable. Right now I am stuck on 1360x768 and it's a total waste of space.

Ubuntu 16.04.

>>59712602
oh wait, actually I do
you just change this line

w3m_command="0;1;0;0;$width;$height;;;;;$FILENAME\n4;\n3;"

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>>59712527
>No, eightchan is fucking b0rked. Some faggot played a
>LOL TOTLAY AWSOM APRUL FOOLS JOEK
>and broke the site
No it's not and it never was. Who tf uses the home page? Go directly to any board, it's fine. All they ever did was change the home page.

Is there much difference between Fedora and Ubuntu?
I'm led to believe that Fedora is more up to date, does that make it more unstable?

Im going to install gentoo.
I tried it a year ago on my thinkpad but it couldn't compile fast enough and my battery died.
Trying it again. How long will it take for a core 2 duo to compile it?

>>59712814
did you try posting?
sudo is down, /v/ is broken, nothing works my dude

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>>59712846
>Is there much difference between Fedora and Ubuntu?
You'll probably have an easier time getting programs that aren't in the repos because there are PPAs for just about everything. Fedora has copr repos but not nearly as much is available compared to PPAs. I wound up compiling a lot of stuff from source during my time with Fedora, it's actually why I learned how, out of necessity.

>I'm led to believe that Fedora is more up to date
It is, especially when it come to GNOME packages. They drop them around the same time as Arch does.

>does that make it more unstable?
Not in my experience. I've never had any issues with distros that use newer packages and most people don't. I've been on Arch for ~2 years. I've never had an issue that wasn't explicitly my fault.

>Open Letter to the Free Software Community
https://libreboot.org/

>>59713079
>weaksauce apology. Leah's attack on the fsf was typical sjw opportunistic bullshit. I'm glad the libreboot "brand" is going to merge into librecore, and that these devs are only going to be contributors in a larger community.

>>59710334
>not XFS

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>>59713079
>Leah was at the time struggling with gender dysphoria and substance abuse
Fuck this bitch. He(?) has no business there. I hope something comes and overtakes libreboot, this is bullshit.

>>59710051
>BSD
>calling GPL a cuck license

>>59713335

>>59710051
This. BSD is literally getting cucked all of the time. Sony is fucking you hard up the ass, and so are others. They pick BSD explicitly because the license allows them to cuck you. GPL is ALPHA AF.

>>59711659
Please screenshot this question so you can laugh about it when you get more experienced.

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>>59713329
>>59713079
It's a man. A manly man dressed up like an ugly woman. He has a deep ass British voice. The only video I can find of him speaking is this one and he's allocated to a tiny portion of the screen. This shit is a disgrace and making libre look bad and libreboot is such an important part of it all. I hate this faggot.

http://mirror.onet.pl/pub/mirrors/video.fosdem.org/2017/K.1.105/libreboot.mp4

Someone please find a larger video of this monster speaking

>>59713362
kek, this

>>59713329
It's going to merge into librecore. it says so in the open letter.

>>59713481
Go with the times, if she wants to be a girl, let her, otherwise fuck off to normieville.

>>59713483
Okay. Then I hope something overtakes librecore. This drug addled monster is disgusting.

>>59713481
>many

>>59713507
Eat shit faggot

>>59713507
this

>>59713521
this

>>59713536
>>59713550
these

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>>59713517

>>59713556
so much this

>>59713585
this

>>59713521
+1

>>59713589
downvoted

>>59713593
>downvoting an upvote
It doesn't work like that homeboy

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>>59713507
>>59713517
>>59713521
>>59713536
>>59713550
>>59713556
>>59713565
>>59713586
>>59713589
>>59713593
>>59713604
Fuck this thread

>>59713613
>facebook frog
not this

>>59713617
newfag

>>59713621
only newfags call newfags newfag

>>59713621
I've never been to newgrounds, nerd

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>>59713481
This monster has no place in society.

>>59713631
-1

there goes the thread

>>59713631
thanks to leah, thousands of people can boot their computers in freedom, I guess you should rethink your assumption

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>>59713637
i-is this allowed?

stop shitposting rn

>>59713653
>thanks to leah
I don't believe you

>libreboot
>isn't a library for reboot functions

>>59713481
he doesn't even have a feminine voice wtf

>>59713696
doesn't mean anything, many women have deep voices but a feminin penis

>>59713481
>>59713631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWVRzGMVXbM&t=6s

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who do we hate more, Leah Rowe or Lennart Poettering?

>>59713744
Proprietary software.

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>>59713696
>>59713706
>>59713481
>>59713329
>>59713521
LEAH ROWE IS AN AMAZING, BEAUTIFUL WOMAN WHO HAS THE EXQUISITE BRAVERY OF A BUTTERFLY FLYING AGAINST THE WIND

>>59713715
They will always have a Y chromosome fuck off

>>59713744
stop being toxic

>>59713772
okay

>>59713767
The chromosome myth was already debunked.
https://intersexnews.blogspot.de/2009/04/cbx2-age-of-chromosomes-is-over.html

>>59713715
>biological sex is a social construct

deep penile infiltration

what happened to this thread holy shit

>>59713786
Fuck off with this bullshit

>>59712915
I have an x301. 1.6ghz core 2 duo. Compiling on battery is suicide. Kernel compilation took four hours. Firefox takes 5.

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>>59713786
>>59713759
>>59713715
>>59713536
>>59713507

>tfw a random anon gives you a (You)
saikou desu

>>59713767
Y chromosome is a social construct

I can't believe I'm installing a distro called "Fedora."

>>59714056
Don't worry, Anon, it's just a phase

>>59711459
Jokes on them, I can't afford to buy anything.

>>59713744
Non free software

>>59713744

>we
Kill yourself.

>>59712953
>/v/ is broken
Kek you are upset, aren't you?

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Something neat for Openbox users. Use Orcsome together with the configuration for it below to remove the titlebars for maximized windows. It works well if you have a top taskbar which displays the window's name anyway.

from orcsome import get_wm

wm = get_wm()

@wm.on_manage
def on_manage():
    @wm.on_property_change(wm.event_window, '_NET_WM_STATE')
    def property_was_set():
        w = wm.event_window
        if w.maximized_vert or w.maximized_horz:
            if w.decorated:
                wm.set_window_state(w, decorate=False)
        else:
            if not w.decorated:
                wm.set_window_state(w, decorate=True)

Are you guys /hype/ for a terminal emulator entirely based off of Javascript, HTML, and CSS!?

Well the wait is over! (if you don't mind compiling it)

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>>59714723
https://hyper.is/

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>>59714728

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>>59710017
>that picture

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>>59714728
Error: You must wait 3 minutes 52 seconds before posting a duplicate reply

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>>59714735
>Hyperterm uses 14 times more memory than x4ce4-terminal
So it's 14 times better?

Looks sweet, I like how it ignores the theme and has classy Windows 10 buttons on the top right.

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Post yfw you found out that Noah Chelliah has moved to BSD. Crazy, I'm gonna have to look into TrueOS though.

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>>59714728

>>59714728
I can't use Terminus font.

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>>59714868
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXB85_olYhQ
>two BSD guys hosting the Linux Action Show
>one former host already moved to BSD
>now Noah has
>all of these Linux guys moving to BSD
>Chris can't stand to be on the show while Noah announces this
This is the real reason they're ending the show. Really makes you think. Noah was the last guy I expected to switch to BSD.

>his whole company has switched to BSD
What is this madman thinking?

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>>59714906
It's menlo, whatever the fuck that is. Never heard of it.

>>59714728
>>59714735
>>59714750
Forgot to say AMA

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>>59714915
>>59714868
>he's using apple hardware instead of PCs and has switched to iPhone as well

>>59713744
Poettering, at least Leah Rowe is contained.

Lennart just keeps skull fucking everything.

>>59714926

Kill yourself you pathetic narcissist.

>>59714971
>>Kill yourself you pathetic narcissist.
Why do you think that? Please elaborate flampie.

>>59714947
i been out of the linux game for a few years, came back last week.

systemd is fucking out of control.

>>59714983

He installed Manjaro and he thinks he's hot shit now for using an "advanced" operating system and he feels pride for using software other people wrote and thinks it makes him a special snowflake to show off "his" customization.
Kill yourself again.

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>>59714971
Did you not catch on that these posts:
>>59714723
>>59714728
>>59714735
>>59714750
>>59714926
Are all concerning the new terminal Hyper written completely in Javascript, HTML, and CSS. Having images related to the posts is the whole point of an imageboard. He's not just randomly including screen/neofetches in his posts.

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>>59714926
I changed it to Terminus and it looks like shit.

>>59715045
haha wtf
it turned it into a scaled font, it's not even fixed width

>>59715027
>He installed Manjaro and he thinks he's hot shit now for using an "advanced" operating system and he feels pride for using software other people wrote and thinks it makes him a special snowflake to show off "his" customization.
It's all regarding hyperterm (the terminal in the images) read the fucking posts moron. Do you scroll through threads and just look at images? I'd say that you were the one obsessed with yourself. You don't even realize what's going on around you.

I installed gnome to try it for a few weeks. I just noticed that my display manager has a separate option for "gnome on xorg" and that the Wayland package has been installed. Everything seems to just work, even x programs. Is Wayland actually usable now? I didn't even notice that I was on Wayland until now.

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>>59715045
Hey cool. I like how you included an image that is related to your post!

>>59715027
>>59714971

>>59715085
>Wayland actually usable now
Yeah. It has been for quite a while. Fedora and Arch have been defaulting to Wayland since November I think.

>even x programs
xwayland

I've used it on my GNOME sessions since day one of the Fedora 25 release. Never noticed a difference.

>>59715126

>and Arch have been defaulting to Wayland since November I think.
There is no X11 nor Wayland environment when you install Arch, therefore there is no default. Fedora does it.

>>59715150
GNOME sessions on Arch have been using Wayland since that version of GNOME dropped. I thought it was obvious that we were talking about GNOME sessions.

Having trouble setting up a passthrough VM. When I create a VM through virt manager, I cannot find it through virsh. The .xml files are at /etc/libvirt/qemu/.
Host OS is Antergos running ACS 4.10.5-1 kernel.
Any virtualization friends willing to lend a hand?

I have an xps 15 with a 7700hq and a gtx 1050 as well as Intel graphics. Is it possible to run a windows VM using the 1050?

>>59715027
>He installed Manjaro and he thinks he's hot shit now for using an "advanced" operating system and he feels pride for using software other people wrote and thinks it makes him a special snowflake to show off "his" customization.
Henlo, this is a friendly thread and it seems that your reading comprehension is a little lacking so I will break down these posts for you.


>>59714723
This post mentions a terminal emulator called hyper and how it is interesting because it is written in JavaScript, HTML, and CSS

>>59714728
This post contains a link to the terminals website and an image of said terminal

>>59714735
This post has an image with a hyper terminal open and 2 system monitors and some editing comparing hyperterm to xfce terminal

>>59714750
This post has a gif showing him inspecting elements showing that it is written in web shit

>>59714926
This post includes an image of neofetch inside of hyperterm showing some additional information to the prior screenfetch as well as pointing out to >>59714906 that the font is in fact menlo, not terminus

Most of you probably already know but I just felt like giving a friendly reminder to anybody buying hardware for use with GNU/Linux, or in general: please don't buy any nvidia products. They are a cancer to Linux and free software.
>Have been hostile to Linux for years
>closed source driver
>doesn't support gbm Wayland like every other gpu manufacturer, instead demanding special treatment and using something that only works with gnome
>no effort to improve the broken hack that is bumblebee

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>>59714971
>>59715027

>>59711659
The BIOS starts the boot loader, which is on your HDD. You have to install GRUB and make it overwrite the MBR on the disk.

Have been using Void (heard forever that systemd is bad, but I liked the philosophy of Arch and hated Slackware's lack of dependency management) for about a week now on a ThinkPad (dabbled with package managers and UNIX stuff on Mac for a while before I had to use a PC).

Mostly set up according to how I want things, just wondering if someone can give me a beginner's guide to sound?

ALSA works fine and plays sound, but I've read I should install PulseAudio for multiplexing. I tried to start it, but it couldn't start its daemon, and adding verbosity levels simply gives me that it ignores that config.d doesn't exist.

I basically only understand that that's some sort of directory. Help?

Also, probably a lmgtfy question, but has anyone got a great book on Linux from generic setup instructions to advanced stuff? The Arch wiki has been helpful due to Arch's similarity with Void.

TL;DR: Problem with PulseAudio, and any good Linux beginner to advanced books?

Cheers.

>>59713079
I sometimes wonder if this is organised opposition.

>>59715328
Good choice with void. In my brief experience with pulse on void, it just worked and didn't need any configuration. It got pulled when I installed gnome, and just worked with gnome. After I went back to i3 it continued working. I never needed to start a daemon or anything. It just became the default alsamixer device as soon as I installed it.

>>59711459
But that's the logical conclusion of capitalism.

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>>59714723
>>59714728
>>59714735
>>59714750
IT'S A FUCKING WEB BROWSER TOO! HAHAHAHAHA

It's kinda neat, I just don't understand why.

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Why Firefox and Transmission are using so much memory? If I open a site like artstation.com on Firefox and have Transmission open at the same time my computer crashes.

>>59715328

>switching from a distribution which works for him because he heard that something is bad
Pathetic.

>>59715449
>2gb RAM
I think you've got more problems than a browser with memory leaks
for a start try running noscript

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>>59715445
In action.

>>59715521
We all use Linux because of design decisions, not because of "just works" and you know.

If "just works" was a valid argument over design then we would all be using windows.

Flocking to technologies or distros which have a more appealing design to us, even if we aren't experienced enough to fully appreciate it, is exactly what separates us from windows users.

>>59715449
most browers will happily gobble up as much memory as it can, firefox might be a bigger offender of this, but all browsers do it to prevent cache misses

>>59715445
>I just don't understand why.
It's developed on top of CSS, HTML, JS, no wonder if it can render a web page.

>>59715449
You have less than 2 GB of RAM. Transmission is one of the lightest torrent clients there is. Maybe try chromium and see how it works for you.

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>>59715548
>using a web browser
>not browsing the web in your Hyper™ terminal emulator

>>59710017
Hey guys, I uninstalled some bloatware (with dependent packages, obviously) from my stock Kubuntu installation but now the CPU usage monitor widget doesn't work.

>>59715667
Resolve required packages and install it using apt-get.

>>59715689
How do I know which packages are required?

>>59715297
its really a choice between shitty blobs + no vsync and worse performance/bugs. Good thing the mesa amd driver is improving and infinite times better than nouveau, but its still not there.

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>>59715621

Anyone here use Hurd as their main daily OS? I switched a few months ago, it's comfy af.

>>59715903
POWERMODE

>>59715727
Test it by uninstalling and installing and uninstalling and installing package one by one.

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>>59715912
no joke

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>>59715981

>>59715449
Did you increase dom.ipc.processCount in Firefox's about:config? It creates more processes and uses more memory. Try 1-3

how do you install packages from aur?
Do you use some tool or you do it manually?

>>59716884
I'm using yaourt, mostly because I'm to lazy to find a better tool.

>>59716884
git clone
cd to/it
makepkg
pacman -S it

>>59716966
You can do makepkg -i to install the built package.

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>>59716884
>>59716962
I use yaourt or pamac depending on my mood. pamac is easier, it automates the whole process for you. yaourt does a little bit but not completely. With pamac all you have to do is check a box and hit apply.

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>>59715449
you have user threads visible in htop, which might be confusing to look at
hit F2, go down to "display options", right, then space bar on "hide userland process threads", and F10 to save

ps. consider just using transmission-daemon and it's built-in web frontend instead of the gtk frontend

>>59713653
>thousands of people can boot their computers in freedom
not on modern hardware theyre not

but thats not hishers fault

>>59716966

>pacman -S it
Why do you try to feel cool by posting instructions if you don't know how to do it yourself?

>>59717196

pacman -S

is meant for install.
So, if I say

pacman -S it

, I mean install it.

Brehs, should I grab Debian or Ubuntu?
I'll need it to manage emails, running android studio, browsing web and watching movies.
I've used Ubuntu in the past but it was nothing advanced, but everyone bashes Ubuntu for its retarded update system, ceo tyrant and being slow. Is it that bad?
Ive used Arch for a few months so googling and terminal dont scare me off, should I go straight for the Debian?

>>59717268
no, "pacman -S" is to install something from your repos by name
to install a package file that makepkg makes, you use "pacman -U"

>>59717303
Don't use Debian and its derivatives.
Don't use Fedora and its derivatives.
Don't use OpenPEPE and its derivatives.

>>59717303
it might help if you told us what about arch you didn't like

who else here uses Arch and has a lot of issues with it, but still hasn't found a distro that's as good? I wish Arch used runit or openrc, and that it had a coherent policy/separate repo for nonfree software. It would also be nice if a small portion of the maintainers weren't lazy retards. For all my bitching, the AUR enables me to have every package I install updated with one program (pamac). No other distro comes close, and ubuntu/Debian ppas are AIDs. I also like the minimalism and user freedom, but there's no reason for it not to have a curses installer for the mandatory parts of the install.

>>59717329
Then make your own repo, and then "pacman -S" it.

>>59717303
Also I loved Arch for its Pacman and wiki, but I fought with wifi driver almost every day
>>59717343
>>59717347
I loved pacman, not installing useless shit and pr0haxor status, but I had issues with wifi (i had to manually enable the wifi card every boot and type ssid and password, sometimes it crashed and I had to turn it off and do it again), my Gt750m card didn't want to work for shit, even though I uninstalled the renuvo or some shit like that drivers and tried to install the ones from nvidia website, my xfce shat the bed too.
If I knew how to fix this shit then I would stay on arch

>>59717369
https://sourceforge.net/projects/archopenrc/

>>59717381
a lot of shits, my bad lol
also I tried gnome/kde and openwindow if I recall correctly and it sucked too

>>59717390
>sourceforge
>2017

>>59717405
>t. gittler
https://github.com/cromerc/arch-openrc

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>>59714744

>>59717405
sourceforge has changed ownership
update your memes

>>59717462
come off it, 99% of those aren't basic programs that make up the core OS

i don't have many of those things installed, does that mean i'm not running GNU?

arch linux calls itself "arch linux", without "gnu", does that mean i can respond with a list of everything in it's repos?

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>>59717531
When they spread misinformation by changing “GNU” to “Linux”, and call their version of it “Foobar Linux”, it's proper for you to correct the misinformation by calling it “Foobar GNU/Linux”.

>>59717462
This reply makes people think "How much GNU packages in my Linux system justifies GNU/Linux", which is misleading, since Linux is a package itself mostly used with the GNU system.

redpill me on systemd

>>59717740
its an init system

>>59717854
It's so much more

>>59717905
>its was init system
fixed

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>Freedom Penguin suggests Mark Shuttleworth should do a crowdfunding campaign to get Adobe Photoshop ported to linux.
https://freedompenguin.com/articles/opinion/adobe-hate-linux/

>>59717935
never in a million years

>>59717935
Yeah, that's what GNU/Linux really needs; more proprietary software.

>>59717957
It would be a big step.

>>59717935
>Who is the face of the free software community?
>Is it Richard Stallman? no
>Is it Linus Torvalds? no
>It's Mark Shuttleworth!

>>59717935
I don't get why people can't take the time to get used to GIMP the same way they did to get used to Photoshop.

>>59717935
>Freedom Penguin
first time I ever heard about that site tbqh

Why manjaro is a meme?

I have to set up ubuntu for a friend of mine on his laptop.
How can I set it up for him, so that upon first power on, he's asked to enter his own username and password. I can't seem to do it, and after I install ubuntu from an USB, and remove it, when I boot it goes to the PCIe boot, no idea why.
Please help

>>59718081
because they asked their users to turn back the system time in order to access their website

>>59718081
security issue

>>59717374

>i don't know what i'm talking about but i will say this ridiculous thing trying to cover it up
Idiot.

>>59717957
There is a lot of people whose biggest reason for staying on Windows is the Adobe suite. Proprietary software being aviable doesn't mean you have to use it. I would continue using GIMP even if Photoshop became aviable on Linux, but many people would like to have the option.

>>59718434
GNU/Linux*

>>59713356
Spoken like a true GNUtard

>>59718279
Kek
Any screenshot?

>>59718473
*Linux

>>59718590
GNU/Linux*

>>59718609
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.
Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.
One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?
(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.

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>>59718609
Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.
You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.
Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?

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>>59718609
If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this:
Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.
Thanks for listening.

>>59718208
Please help

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>>59718637
>>59718650
>>59718662
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>59718681
I'm terribly sorry for interjecting another moment, but what I just told you is GNU/Linux is, in fact, just Linux, or as I've just now taken to calling it, Just Linux. Linux apparently does happen to be a whole operating system unto itself and comprises a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Most computer users who run the entire Linux system every day already realize it. Through a peculiar turn of events, I was misled into calling the system "GNU/Linux", and until now, I was unaware that it is basically the Linux system, developed by the Linux project.

There really isn't a GNU/Linux, and I really wasn't using it; it is an extraneous misrepresentation of the system that's being used. Linux is the operating system: the entire system made useful by its included corelibs, shell utilities, and other vital system components. The kernel is already an integral part of the Linux operating system, never confined useless by itself; it functions coherently within the context of the complete Linux operating system. Linux is never used in combination with GNU accessories: the whole system is basically Linux without any GNU added, or Just Linux. All the so-called "GNU/Linux" distributions are really distributions of Linux.

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>>59718506

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>>59718700

>>59718700
>Linux is the operating system: the entire system made useful by its included corelibs, shell utilities
wat

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>this thread

>>59718723
Alpine Linux

>>59718751
Windows

>>59718760
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Windows, is in fact, NSA/Windows, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, NSA plus Windows. Windows is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another locked down component of a fully functioning NSA system made useful by the NSA corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by the government.

Many computer users run a modified version of the NSA system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of NSA which is widely used today is often called “Windows”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the NSA system, developed by the NSA.

There really is a Windows, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Windows is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Windows is normally used in combination with the NSA operating system: the whole system is basically NSA with Windows added, or NSA/Windows. All the so-called “Windows” versions are really versions of NSA/Windows.

>>59718751
How's that an argument? Such systems aren't GNU systems, same with Android, which is linux based, but isn't called "Linux" aswell, since Linux is just a kernel.

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>>59718809
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Android, is in fact, Android/Linux or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Android plus Linux. Android is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Linux system made useful by the Linux kernel, syscalls and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the Linux system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Linux which is widely used today is often called "Android", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Linux system, developed by the Linux Foundation.

Τhere really is an Android, and these peοple are using it, but it is јust a part οf the system they use. Android is the interface: the prοgram in the system that interacts with the user and starts the οther prοgrams that yοu run. Τhe interface is an essential part οf an οperating system, but useless by itself; it can οnly functiοn in the cοntext οf a cοmplete οperating system. Android is nοrmally used in cοmbinatiοn with the Linux kernel: the whοle system is basically Linux with Android added, or Android/Linux. All the sο-called "Android" operating systems are really Android/Linux.

>>59718809
Alpine Linux can run so-called "GNU/Linux" software, but isn't GNU/Linux, because it doesn't use GNU tools, but only the Linux kernel.

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>>59718829
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.

>>59718872
Linux is more than a kernel, it is an operating system.

>>59718998
Show me how you boot it, go online and post here with only Linux.

>>59719010
I use Alpine Linux

>>59719021
No you don't.

>>59719021
Alpine includes more than a modified kernel, which makes "Alpine Linux" wrong, even without any GNU parts.

>>59719043
Still means it's not GNU/Linux, but Linux

>>59719055
It simply means a Linux based OS without a name.
Linux is a kernel, nothing less or more.

>>59719063
Linux is an operating system, because people call it as any GNU-compatible system that uses the Linux kernel. People call it Linux, so it is Linux.

>>59719099
What about Android? It contains the same amount of Linux like GNU/Linux systems, yet you wouldn't omit "Android" and call it "Linux".

>>59719129
It's not GNU-compatible, Alpine Linux is.

>>59719129
rms should have been more radical and insist n GNU rather than GNU/Linux

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>>59719145
It would not be false to the facts, but it is not the best thing to do. Here are the reasons we call that system version “GNU/Linux” rather than just “GNU”:

- It's not exactly GNU—it has a different kernel (that is, Linux). Distinguishing GNU/Linux from GNU is useful.

- It would be ungentlemanly to ask people to stop giving any credit to Linus Torvalds. He did write an important component of the system. We want to get credit for launching and sustaining the system's development, but this doesn't mean we should treat Linus the same way those who call the system “Linux” treat us. We strongly disagree with his political views, but we deal with that disagreement honorably and openly, rather than by trying to cut him out of the credit for his contribution to the system.

- Since many people know of the system as “Linux”, if we say “GNU” they may simply not recognize we're talking about the same system. If we say “GNU/Linux”, they can make a connection to what they have heard about.

>>59719159
GNU/Linux != Linux

>>59710017
Linux is mostly made up of GNU in the same way AAA games are mostly made up of textures.

>>59717597
but how much of the Arch repos are comprised of GNU software?

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Okay this is pretty dope

>>59712548
>more obscure
What did he mean by this?

>>59717462
There are non-GNU (mostly BSD) versions of a lot of this GNU crap.

>>59717935
When freedompenguin says 'Linux', they are talking about a version of the GNU operating system, with Linux as the kernel, so they basically try to make GNU more successful. But what results does it really lead to? The purpose of GNU is to give users freedom - GNU is a success if it gives freedom to many people.

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>>59719320

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I'm new to Arch and AUR. Could someone with some exp pls help?

I'm basically trying to install a package from AUR which is hosted on GitHub. But before it gets compiled & installed, I'd like to modify few settings.

So, I made a directory, grabbed the PKGBUILD, placed it here, and then manually did the

git clone ...

of the repo. I did it manually because if I use makepkg, it does a full clone of the repo and the repo is 10GB in size! So I used shallow copy.

However, after manual cloning of the github repo, I tried running makepkg but it failed.

 makepkg -s
==> Making package: opencv-git r906.6534b24-1 (Mon Apr  3 12:33:21 EDT 2017)
==> Checking runtime dependencies...
==> Checking buildtime dependencies...
==> Retrieving sources...
==> ERROR: /tmp/opencv-git/opencv is not a clone of https://github.com/opencv/opencv
    Aborting...
 

Hmmm.. so it somehow rejects the manual "git clone..." copy of the repo.

Any idea why? Any other way of accomplishing the same thing?

I really wanna avoid makepkg downloading gigs of files every time I want to update the repo...


Thanks!

Any legit reason for MPD GUI Client like Cantata and GMPC not recognizing .dsf and .dsdiff files in my hard drive?

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>>59719560

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Trying to upgrade to debian testing/stretch. Am I supposedly to edit the lines under '# jessie-updates,previously known as 'volatile'"?

>>59719149

Kill yourself and your overused meme.

>>59719619

Custom DLAGENTS for makepkg. Took me 5 seconds on my search engine of choice.

Any botnet-ish things in Fedora I should disable? I've finally upgraded from my old core2duo system, and I'm excited to use GNOME 3 again. I'd usually use Debian, but configuring the fonts is just too troublesome.

>>59719714
>meme.
Do you know what a meme is?

>>59719714
>*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***
Leave

>>59719903
The only nonfree things in Fedora are kernel blos, eg: drivers.

>>59719903
SELinux + SystemD

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>>59719714
did you get lost?

>>59719959
>>59719959
oh boy, here we go

>>59719940
Yeah, I can appreciate that. I seriously doubt I'll ever have to enable the RPMFusion repositories.

>>59719959
I'm not concerned with SELinux, and I'm too used to systemd to mess around with initscripts.

>>59719903
>configuring the fonts is just too troublesome
And you want to deblob a whole distro?

>>59719903
>Distro developed by a company that worked together with the NSA in the past

>>59720003
When I say "botnet-ish" I mean things like telemetry, nonfree software (not drivers/blobs, I use a system that doesn't need them) and generally privacy-violating things.

>>59710017
Guys I need your advice.

I'm a junior programmer(less than 1 year of experience) but with 4 years of windows system administration and security experience.

I have basic experience with unix-like systems and familiar with its concepts.

I want to move from my windows 10 to a Linux.
Everyone tells me Ubuntu is good for begginers but I hate all the shit that comes with it.

Should I go with Arch?

>>59720120
yes go for arch

>>59720120
With that much valuable experience you're supposed to know that asking questions like that in some internet community is bound to be fruitless

>>59720024
Binary firmware is the only thing that isn't libre in a stock Fedora install.

>botnet-ish
There is nothing

>>59720024
firefox

>>59720120
You should try out a variety of distros in virtualbox and/or live USBs to get a feel for them and find out what you like.

>>59720180
>managed my high school computer lab office package installation because i told the principal i was good with computers
>"4 years of system administration experience"

sorry for being unfriendly but the guy was asking for it

>>59720218
it's actually experience from the military.
fuck off

>>59720257
That's why you can't make your own decisions?
My condolences.
Use Noobuntu

>>59720257
im sorry, truly. please lets be friends

>>59720271
No.

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>>59720279
dont be like that. here, have a rare stallman

>>59720257
>fuck off
>/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Stop

>>59719714
>overused meme
fuck off reddit hipster niggerlover

r.i.p. >>59718177
;_;
why is /g/ unable to discuss libreboot without loosing shit? this thread was so utterly shit that mods finally killed it, I'm mad

>>59720859
/g/ went downhill when /pol/ arrived

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I want to try Linux Mint, which version should I take?

>>59720910
/pol/'s been on /g/ for a long time
it's the election cycle that brought mouth foaming redditfags that lash out with shitposts

>>59721028
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>59721035
>>59720910
>everyone I disagree with is /pol/
Fuck off simple minded fucking idiot fucks

systemd/emacs

>>59721120
>fuck fuck fuck
screw off nerd virgin

>>59721135
haha jokes on you faggot I have 2 kids

This >>59721135 pretty much confirms this >>59721120

>>59721135
You're a massive retard who's just out of arguments. Grow up babby.

>>59721219
You mean your wife's kids?

>>59721275
You didn't have a single argument
Just fuck off with your babble and rhetoric

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>>59710017
This was the absolute worst thread in the history of /fglt/

>>59721360
Don't come to the next /fglt/. These are supposed to be friendly threads.

>>59721360
Liberals are so whiny.

>>59721418
Blow me shitposter

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>>59721418
This sounds a lot like >>59721120

I'm looking to switch from Windows to Linux. What's a good distro to try out if I want to move on from Ubuntu? I'm pretty busy so I won't be doing much besides web browsing, programming, and SSH into a remote server.

Also, is it a good idea to install the distro on an external HDD? I don't have the internal SSD space to make a partition for dual booting.

>>59721530
GNU/Linux*

and 300
new thread please

>>59721530
>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>>59721540
*Linux

-> >>59721586

>>59721576
GNU+Linux*

>>59721530
Debian

>>59721619
*Linux

>>59721436
Friendly Thread.

>>59721677
GNU with Linux added

>>59721530
>switch from Windows to Linux
>move on from Ubuntu
>space to make a partition for dual booting.

You can't possibly get all of those 3 without contradictions

>>59721702
Linux without GNU

>>59721729
I can deal with that.

>>59721712
I'm just afraid to completely nuke Windows in case I need it again.

>>59721790
How did you dare to use Windows over years without a mean to be able to nuke and reinstall it if needed? I'd get goosebumps.

>>59721807
I've never had any issues to where I've completely had to reinstall. There's always been built-in options for doing a factory reset. I guess I could always just use a Windows VM in a Linux environment?

>>59721836
Built-in options wouldn't do shit in case of hard drive failure. Never understood how people could rely solely on that.

Even if you stay at Windows, get an installation medium ready, seriously.


VMs have their ups and downs.

>>59721836
GNU/Linux*

>>59721871
I've done fresh installs on other systems, just not my own. In a worst case scenario, I could probably manage to reinstall.

All I'd really use the VM for is running Windows-only software.

So I kind of want to install a minimal distro on my other machine, but many of them seem to rely on having an internet connection through ethernet during the process.

Well, I simply don't have ethernet available most of the time.

What should I do to ensure that I can install something like Gentoo, but with my only means of connecting to the internet being either 1. tethering from an android device or 2. using an USB wireless adapter?

I guess I could just prepare the installation in a VM, too; that might be an interesting thing (to see how it works etc)

Void user here, strongly considering a switch to Manjaro Openrc. Is openrc officially supported, more so than on Arch? Anyone else tried it here?