/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Recommendations on which mATX mobo to get for a Ryzen 5 1500X please.

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Daily reminder: ryzen "wait" fags couldn't refute the fact a $60 pentium g4560 btfo their $200 to $400 line up multi "cores" """"processor"""" in any game performance, period.

>>59677494
GA-AB350M-Gaming 3

has fastest ram support and up to 64GB

>>59677520

>>59677494
>>59677542
you don't need ryzen 5 for 200 dollars. get pentium g4560 instead just for one third of the price and twice the performance

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>>59677553
>>59677520
forgot picture

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>>59677420
>>59677520
>>59677561
>>59677566

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>>59677561
>implying there's just one Ryzen 5 CPU
these prices listed are higher than actual release.

go away kike.

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>>59677581
>shitout 4
nigga please

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pls r8 my build, /g/

>>59677606
trash, post link and il fix.

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>>59677566
nice alternative "facts" you got there pal, and why won't you post price/performance ratio as well?
look how ryzen is being btfo by a $60 real CPU here >>59677581 you amd shills
>>59677586
still twice expensive than pentium g4560 and even worse performance, shill

>>59677606
swap cpu with a pentium g4560 and you are good to go.

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>>59677606
>buying intel 2 weeks before Ryzen 5 release
good goy, pay overpriced intel markups just before the competition makes us lower our prices!

>>59677616
here you go

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>>59677606
>single channel ram/10

>>59677614
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9sBJ2R

>>59677639
those processors are not even out yet and what's this fake news benchmark? come on shills give me something real. also there is no comparison with pentium g4560 because amd shills are afraid of being btfo in their fake benchmark. lmao

>>59677598
>still posting proven fabricated benchmarks

sigh, when will amd shills grow the fuck up

>>59677653
Much better IMO to max a slot out for easier upgrades than having to rebuy

>>59677664
>>59677673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5cqOtWz5sU&feature=youtu.be&t=276

>>59677520
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU INTEL KIKE SHILL
WAIT TILL RYZEN 5 AND OPTIMIZATION AND YOUR SORRY ASS WILL BE MINE

>>59677639
>implying I'm buying anything right now
I enjoy planning ahead, anon.

>>59677420
>>Ryzen5 4c/8t release in 2 weeks is just as good as i5/i7 with good RAM, for far cheaper should force Intel to lower prices.

>not even out yet
>needs better ram, therefore not actually cheaper.

nice cpu yopu got there m8

>>59677697
>just wait!!!!

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I need a VM server that can host 16 production VMs. Several of the VMs will need to use more than 1 virtualized CPU. Total RAM requirement exceeds 64GB. There needs to be storage enough to host 16 active VMs and 4 VMs on standby.
File/VM transfer speed within its internal back-up drives and external SAN must be able to handle at least 500 MB/s throughput with the lowest possible latency.
Uptime and the lowest possible energy consumption also a must.

Help me

>>59677699
then say so in your fucking post, retard

>>59677706
>doesnt know how to read
it says "good ram" not "better".

>>59677653
I want to be able to upgrade to 64 gb without buying replacement RAM. What's wrong with one channel only?

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>>59677420
fucking shit your tips are retarded. i'm aborting thread til we get a competent OP

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>>59677694
That's irreverent. You have to test the real processor in order to get real performance, shill.
>>59677697
This amd shilling hothead has lost his composure, typical amd shills.
>just wait
>they'll fix it with optimization
LMAOING@ ur life
>>59677706
this guy gets it

>>59677723
>it says "good ram" not "better".
ryzen needs faster ram to be able to compete, which costs twice.

can someone make a proper thread?
thx

>>59677743
I just bought 16GB of 3000 RAM for $96.

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>>59677743
lmao pay "less" for weak cpu and much more for ram, just amd things.

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jesus FUCKING christ the intel drones ITT

>>59677827
>intel drones
>nothing but amd shilling itt
really activates those neurons...

>>59677862
fact is AMD is only 10% behind in IPC and they're selling equivalent chips for far cheaper than intel, hardly shilling.

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>>59677894
>this is what amd shills really believe

>>59677420
proper thread
>>59677920

>>59677722
Anyone? Please?

>>59677932
go watch simulated R3 and R5 test, and any R7 bench.

>8 core 16 thread for same price as an i7
>4 core 8 thread for same price as i5
>4 core 4 thread for same price as i3

>10% lower IPC
>more cores/threads for same price.

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ENOUGH! I keep seeing in most gaming benchmarks that the i7-7700 beats the 1800X yet people here keep saying that the 1800 is better

Not a shill I just want to know why I have most of my PC ready to build except for the mobo. cpu and gpu

Also should I get the 1080 or just try to catch the 1080ti if it ever comes back in stock?

>>59677993
you don't need more cores. IPC is much more important for gaming as well as productivity. That's why amd is such a failure.

>>59677993
>8 core 16 thread for same price as an i7
But performs the same as an i3
>4 core 8 thread for same price as i5
But performs the same as a Pentium
>4 core 4 thread for same price as i3
But performs the same as a Celeron

>10% lower IPC
No, try 20% versus Kaby Lake

Must be 9AM in Bangalore.

>>59678032
R7 are more workstation oriented. If you just game get one of the R5 chips coming in 2 weeks.

>>59678051
>But performs the same as an i3
in single threaded tasks
>But performs the same as a Pentium
in single threaded tasks
>But performs the same as a Celeron
in single threaded tasks

>>59678095
>MUH MULTITHREAD
look pal most of ppl here are just gaming and light productivity work, and none of them will use more than two cores. Save your shilling for someone else, amd drones.

>>59678095
>in single threaded tasks
kek, Ryzen R7 1700 can't even hold a candle to the 7700K in multithreaded tasks. Nice try AMDrone
KYS

>>59678110
then you would be happy if AMD forces intel to lower their prices on i5 and i7 or if you could get equal performance for cheaper, which is what AMD is offering.

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>>59678125
fuck off kike

>>59678144
>cherrypicks the $300 more expensive 1800X that's been overclocked to prove his point
kek

>>59678169
>r7 1700 is same price as i7
>can OC to 1800x speeds
fuck off kike

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>>59678144
>>59678215
>>59677586
>>59677697
what's with this bonding between antisemitism and amd fanboys? No wonder they are losing because they're just bunch of neo nazis.

>>59677722
>>59677963
>asking for actual hardware help in the only fucking /v/ thread in /g/
>16 production VMs
>some will need more than 1 virtualized CPU
jesus fuck, how many? "some" is as much of an answer as "maybe"

>>59678215
>overclocking
>Ryzen
tippity toppity kek
Ryzen 1800X can't overclock past 4.2 GHz with all eight cores. Good luck getting a worse-binned 1700 to 4.0GHz on air.

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>>59678259
learn to fucking read you retarded schlomo holy fuck

i said the 1700 will OC to 1800X speeds

>>59678293
>moving goalposts
We've got a real bad AMDrone infestation in this thread
Abandon thread
>>59677920

>>59677606
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z3GDXH

buy the video card here.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-Geforce-GTX-1080-8GB-GDDR5X-Graphics-Card-ZT-P10800C-10P-/371827472098?hash=item5692a4f6e2:g:vckAAOSw241YZoAD

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>>59678310
>moving goalposts
no, you're the one taking shit out of context.

take your kike posse and fuck off back to israel

I'm looking at the EVGA 1080 FTW, anyone here have it?

I'm putting a new PC together using PC Parts Picker and my one question is about the case. I would like to try and seal it up as much as possible to prevent dust and hair from getting in, so are there any cases that are good to choose, or is any case fine so long as I get some filters for the fan intakes?

>>59678601
phanteks has everything filtered.

>>59678601
you should get one that has fan filters, and if you are really anal about it, pull some stockings around those filters for even better result

>>59678614
So all the fan ports are filtered on phanteks cases?

>>59678614
>>59678665
ye and so does fractal.

>>59678681
fractal doesnt have the top ports filtered.

>>59678703
because they're exhaust....

>>59678713
who cares?

it still doesnt have them filtered and you're a retard.

If I have a 4690k i5 and I get a 1080, am I fucking myself with having such an old CPU

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Would upgrading the GPU be worth it? I kinda wanna play newer games without worrying about getting 60fps.

>>59678731
yes.

buy a cheap 980 for under 200.

>>59678731
yeah buy pentium g4560

>>59678830
kek

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811854052

or

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352053

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fresh out of the oven

>>59678936
phanteks imo.

what's a good set of 16gb 3000mhz ram that'll work with the asrock x370 taichi?

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>>59677494
>>59677520
4 drinks, do it.

>>59677616
>nice alternative "facts" you got there pal, and why won't you post >price/performance ratio as well?

Huh? Is this a joke? But you posted the AMD picture so I'm not sure.

But okay.
>1500X+mobo to reach that 4Ghz
$280
>7600k+mobo+cooler to reach that 4.8Ghz
$480

So it's almost half the cost, yet better.

>>59677606
Fine except that that cooler isn't very good. A Noctua big air cooler is better. If you want a good AIO that out performs the Noctua, you need to spend more in the $150 range.

And that 1070 seems way overpriced. You can get a 1080 for $420, and 1070 for ~$300-$325.

>>59677722
Snowy Owl should be coming out in late Q3, senpai.
Unless you mean that each VM needs full cores instead of splitting them? I think you mean splitting cores so say each VM gets half or a third of the same cores.

>>59677935
You're retarded

>>59678033
>you don't need more cores. IPC is much more important
1500X has higher IPC than the 7600k due to SMT. Just like how the i7-7700 non-k stock outperforms the 7600k with a 5Ghz overclock on average. Both of these are irrefutable facts that you have to be a moron to argue against.

>>59678731
The fuck? You were already answered in the last thread

Get a RX470 4GB or RX480 8GB and a 3770.

>>59678032
All of the shit they'll reccomend for you will be over kill anyway. I'm still not buying into the 4k meme.

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>>59678032
Well you have to define 'better'.

In all these benchmarks, the 1800X never seems to be more than 50-65% utilized while the 7700k is usually 95-100% utilized.

That means if you just put Twitch or something on your other monitor with the 7700k, you're going to drop 10-20% FPS and be below the 1800X, for example. While the 1800X can have so-much-shit running in the background and still have nearly what the 7700k is getting in a clean environment.

Also, with 3200mhz RAM, the 1800X seems to surpass the 7700k in most games from the past few years. Especially when you go by 1% minimums and frame pacing, which is pretty much the most important with games.
And an update to support 3600mhz+ RAM is coming in May.

Is the 7700k better, on average, over all games, which includes 10 year old ones, in a clean and sterile benchmarking environment with nothing running in the background?
Yes, by about 10-20% or so, but:
>a lot of these outlier results seem to be due to Nvidia's DX12 driver being dogshit for some reason on Ryzen.
<

There's plenty of cases where you can put a certain GPU configuration on 7700k on a certain game using a certain graphics API and it's the one that does terrible.
So it's just not black and white. Things are more complicated now than they were when we were comparing the Pentium 4 and Thunderbird with simple graphics APIs.

Is it good /g/bros? Should I change anything?

>>59683682
Shit forgot to link https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zscPLD

Random question, but which brand do you think has the best UEFI?

>>59683695
ASRock

>>59683693
-spending as much on a 1070 ($400) as you can get a 1080 ($420) for.
If you're getting a 1070, it makes more sense to spend more around $320 for one. Otherwise you can get an R9 Fury for $235. At your budget, a 1080 on sale makes the most sense.
Or wait for Vega, for that matter. Then $400 1080s will probably be plentiful and you won't be limited to 1 or 2 models, or just get Vega itself.

-shit PSU. You can get a much nicer 550-650W gold rated Seasonic for around $60-$70

-Why not just get a 500GB SSD for $140 instead of a 250+1TB? Add a HDD later once you need it.

-Why cheapshit RAM when you're spending so much on CPU+Cooler+Mobo?

>>59683693

Here is a far more robust and higher quality build for about $90 more than your configuration.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9WNFyf

>>59683750
Thank you. Can you tell me what's wrong with that PSU?
>>59683819
Thanks man

>>59684118
Cheap EVGA's are just nothing like their high end ones. Same with Corsair.

Seasonic tends to be best for the cheap PSUs.
You can get a semi-modular 550W gold rated Seasonic for like $60-$70. Well worth spending a few bucks more for especially with all those other expensive components you're using.

Hell personally, I'd forget the overpriced 7700k, motherboard, cooler, and get an actual great $100+ PSU. The PSU and SSD are the components you're most likely to keep the longest. You're spending the most money on the components you're most likely to replace first, or first after the GPU.

>>59684263
I see. Thank you

>>59684598
You're welcome.