/ourguy/ won't sign this, r-right? https://archive.fo/f0pzZ

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How do we end the """conservative""" brain disease?

GOD DAMN REPUBLICANS ARE SO FUCKING JEWISH AND BREAINDEAD

Net Neutrality is so fucking cancer. If you support pic related, you are a cancer. Kill yourself.

Capitalism and Bolshevism are two sides of the same Jewish coin.

>>59631819
Of course he will sign it.
Regulation is bad. M'kay.

>>59631819
This is it.
Herbert Hoover is back. He's been reincarnated in the Legislative to fuck thinks up one a-motherfucking-gain.

Prepare for 1929 numero dos

>>59631819
something to hide, anon?

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>privacy exists in the '''''''''current year''''''''''

go post a picture of your latte on facebook you dumb niggers

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>>59631819
MAGA

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>>59632048
>Prepare for 1929 numero dos

but her emails :(((

>>59631819
Yes, he will. All those torrents, DDLs, etc. will be known by the RIAA/MPAA. Enjoy living in a box.

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>your internet history comes out
>no one wants to hire you because you shitpost on 4chan for multiple hours every day
>mommy sees your internet history and cuts off your supply of tendies

>>59632120
Why would your internet history be suddenly available now?

>>59632132
Because it's for sale now. Are you paying attention at all.

>>59632099
podestas emails did the most damage by far.

>>59632153
Who is selling it?

>>59632170
Not him but your ISP

>>59632170
ISP's.

>>59631819
>washington post
Out of all the fear mongering, unprofessional, opinion piece generators you could have chosen, why that one?

>>59632183
>>59632184
Why weren't they selling it before?

>>59631819
We just can't stop winning, this means more jobs with all the new small ISPs that will be created

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this gets worse by the minute

>>59632186
They weren't allowed to.

>>59632067
>I have agreed to make myself such a harmless, unthreatening, and uninteresting person that I don't fear having the government/corporations know what it is that I'm doing

>>59632067

Yes. And it's none of your fucking business what it is.

>>59632186
not allowed.

google was free to do it though, as was facebook and any other fucking website.

>>59632194
Under which law?

>>59632200
Which law prevented them from doing so?

>>59632099
>her emails
>literally 20+ years of fucking people
Dude, if the democrats would have picked literally anyone else besides the communist man and literally "secret" elite - this would have been a vastly difficult election..

Hell i would have voted for the communist if he would have said something like "we'll look at why school costs so much" instead of saying "no fuck you, the country is gonna be blindly paying for this overpriced meme"

>>59632067
Lots of porn, and 4chan.

>>59632193

As if they didn't have access to the data they wanted via warrant.

Now it's just another data farm for machine learning.

>>59632200
they were collecting it, but not selling it
and guess what, now they can
and anyone can buy it
anyone with shekels

>>59632210
>Hell i would have voted for the communist if he would have said something like "we'll look at why school costs so much" instead of saying "no fuck you, the country is gonna be blindly paying for this overpriced meme"
bernie would have kept the scam going.

he would have just paid for 100k a year state tuition through taxpayer money.

>>59632221
Why doesn't Google sell the search history of its customers?

>>59632201
dumb nigger, learn to read.
maybe if you did that for once our country would improve for a change
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/10/27/the-fcc-just-passed-sweeping-new-rules-to-protect-your-online-privacy/?utm_term=.498648a718b3

>>59632234
because it's illegal?... If Trump doesn't veto it, it will become legal.

>>59632203
Jesuschrist, you're dense. The same law that forbids me to send a hundred and fifty five trained pigeons to follow you everywhere.

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This is what happens when you elect a meme.

>>59632245
Which law? Post a specific number.

>>59632241
The date of that article is 2016/10/27. Why weren't ISPs selling your internet history on 2016/10/26?

>>59632241
>Under the Federal Communications Commission’s new rules, consumers may forbid Internet providers from sharing sensitive personal information, such as app and browsing histories, mobile location data and other information generated while using the Internet.
Gee I didn't know that Google and Facebook counted as Internet providers.

>>59632186
Because they weren't allowed to. You're free to not use google or facebook or any other datapimp website. Many people only have one ISP in their area. With schools and such saying that internet access is a requirement to be a functioning person, ISP's were not to put you in a position to put your sensitive info for sale (without you actually making any profit) to function in society.

>>59632251
You post a specific number of the law that allowed them to do it. Go on. I'm waiting.

>>59632251
Admit you are a retard and ill spoon feed you the law and number

>>59632274
>You post a specific number of the law that allowed them to do it.
thats not how laws work you retard.

>>59632259
It's possible that they were, so the previous administration passed a law that would stop it. Now the current administration wants to make it explicitly legal.

>>59632278
I'm a retard.

>>59632278
Oh, the irony.

>>59632280
So why can't I find your search history if it was being sold before?

>>59632284
Communication Act ,section 222

>>59632302
And the bill mentioned in the OP is repealing Communcations Act, section 222?

Some nigga's getting Socratic Methoded right now

>>59632302
So where in the bill that is being passed does it refer to Section 222 of the Communications Act?

Sign the damn petition.
The official WH petition thing is filled with retarded liberals demanding Trump release his tax returns and resign as president bullshit and this is buried beneath it.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/reinstating-protecting-privacy-customers-broadband-and-other-telecommunications-services

>>59631987
>>>/pol/

>>59632377
when will you retards learn that petitions do jack shit.

obama put them there to make you think they mean something.

>>59632386
/pol/ has been an alt-right board since moot left. If you fix it for me maybe I'll return there. Right now, it's full of retards

>>59632120

>can no longer get MAGA minimum-wage factory job

>>59632416
>>>/int/

>>59632400

>Obama invented petitions

Holy shit we've got a live one here!

>>59632416
my bad
>>>/reddit/

>>59632269
>I didn't know that Google (The company that supplies internet through their service known as Google fiber) counted as an ISP
Get your head checked.

>>59632489
It was the Obama administration that created the White House petition page, idiot.

>>59632560
What about Facebook? They must have some juicy personal information to sell. Why can't I see your post history?

>>59632573
>Why can't I see your post history?
Because I have never posted on Facebook.

>>59632607
Why can't I buy my neighbor's Facebook history? I know for a fact he has an account.

>>59632570

>Nobody signed petitions before Obama personally remodeled the petition site.

Masterful debate newfaggot.

Does this mean I can buy my own history or do I have to pay a lot of money and buy in bulk.
Would be fun to buy the history of my neighbours and freak them out.
Or is stalking and harassing not what they had in mind for getting this law removed?

>>59632687
Why don't you try asking Google for the search history of their users since they aren't bound by the same regulation?

>>59632628
Not him, but that's not what he said. He said that petitions are useless (they are) and that the sole reason the page exists is to make people think someone cares what they're whining about.

>>59632626
Realistically they aren't going to start selling packaged profiles to random buyers. Everyone would abandon Facebook overnight if their boss/crazy girlfriend could purchase a full profile detailing all their "personal" conversations and interactions with others.
That doesn't mean they won't sell all your info to advertisers and anyone else with millions to throw around though.

>>59632687
If weirdos get their requests denied, they should sue for discrimination. What a time to be alive.

>>59632714

>Not him, but that's not what he said. He said that petitions are useless (they are) and that the sole reason the page exists is to make people think someone cares what they're whining about.

I know. I'm giving hm shit for using it as a mouthpiece for his garbage /pol/shitposting.

>>59632714
So I just need to be an advertiser to get access to your individual history? How much does it cost?

>>59632734
How much does it cost?
How the fuck should I know? Why don't you hit up some of the major datamining companies and make some queries? They don't openly advertise that shit to the general public for obvious reasons.

>hurr durr they dun do it u nerd. nuthin 2 wurry about
I don't really give a flying fuck if you think they actually do it or not. The issue is that it's legal for them to sell whatever info they please. If we had halfway decent privacy laws this would not be the case. The whole point of passing legislation is to ensure something cannot become a serious problem.

>>59632734
>individual history
It'll be sold in bulk, likely by demographics.

"Hello this is P&G, we would like to purchase histories on all females between age 18 to 45"

>>59632774
Ok, so if my neighbor is a female between 18 and 45 I can get access to her Facebook history?

>>59632067
>be you
>support government going through your internet history and controlling your every move
>"nothing to hide" because Trump is in power and youre alright right now
>the left wins next elections
>net privacy is gone
>they see your search history
>be on a nazi sympathizer list
>public and working life actually destroyed beyond repair
Youre like zoe quinn wanting youtube censorship and getting her videos censored.

Freedom of speech remains even if you have nothing to say
Freedom to bear arms remains even if you dont have a gun
Privacy remains even if you have nothing to hide

>>59632790
I'm not retarded I use an offshore VPN paid with cryptocurrency instead of blindly trusting the government to protect my privacy.

>>59632697
Google made the decision to not sell user history some time ago. If they sell data, they get bad publicity and people can just use another search engine or another map/GPS app. If you get pissed off at your ISP, most people can't just switch to a competitor because there isn't one.

>>59632826
So why didn't they sell user history in 2015? It's basically free money right since none of their users have a choice.

>>59632851

They do, in large quantities. They sell demographics, not individual histories. You actually think an ad company is going to mine through 100 million raw entries? You actually think Goggle is just going to hand out their most valuable asset?

Get real.

>>59632878
And why would they start selling individual histories now?

>>59632885

Because Google isn't an ISP and this bill doesn't affect Google you dumb fuck.

>>59632774
Histories are fun because they can contain things like links to static sensitive content and session tokens.
:3

>>59632878
>You actually think an ad company is going to mine through 100 million raw entries?
No because they don't need to. A third party processes all that data and presents it to the ad companies on a silver platter. Those third parties will also be selling that info to your employer.

>>59632891
Why didn't ISPs sell individual users' history in 2015?

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>>59632818
>freedom of speech isnt needed because I write everything in code and under a pseudonym
>we dont need the 2nd amendment because I keep a secret stash of illegal weapons under the floorboards
Look at hackerman over here, good for you mate.
You being safe or not was never really my point. Removing freedoms is always objectivly bad for the people.

>implying gov cant read your history if they want to anyways
Also are you even encrypting all communications throught the VPN? In an out. Otherwise its wasted effort. And broadband. Not that it matters.

So who wants to put in an order for the house member's internet history?

>>59632901
Link me to the page where I can buy 100 million entries of user data from Google or Facebook.

>>59632903

Because the FTC didn't allow them to.

>>59632914
And why would the FTC allow them to now?

>>59632912

Not him, but you're fucking retarded.

>>59632903
You aren't clever. We get it, you don't believe anyone shared personally identifiable information before and you don't think they'll ever do it in the future. You implicitly trust billion dollar corporations that are solely interested in making money and are willing to lobby privacy laws out of existence in pursuit of profit.

>>59632926
Ok, but I want this link. I am interested in this data and have a lot of money to pay for it.

>>59632910
You can't because it will never happen. Libcucks ITT are eating up the MSM's spin on this entire thing.

>>59632919

Because they lost a suit filed by AT&T in 2016 where the supreme court which took away their ability to do so.

To the anon that tries to defend removing basic liberties, with one line question posts, the reading comprehension of a middle schooler and the argumentative abilities of a bottle opener.

How old are you? Serious question.

>>59632940
And the solution to that is to give a completely separate organization power instead of returning it back to the FCC that was doing a perfectly good job before?

>>59632938
Or you can just read the house resolution you retard

>>59632934

>link

You talk to a sales rep and go for shitty meetings where they buy you lunch you fucktard. It's not buying from Amazon.

You've never worked for an enterprise in tech have you?

>>59632934
So why are you asking random dudes on 4chan? We've already told you that nobody advertises that sort of thing openly. Go contact some datamining companies.


>hurrr I don't beleeb that Shell sells oil in large quantities. I don't see a "buy 10,000,000 barrels" button on their site!

>>59632958
Everybody knows that Shell sells oil. You see plenty of Shell gas stations across the country, where at each one you can buy oil from them. Why is there not one example of a place where you can buy user data from Facebook?

>>59632946

No this bill is about repealing regulation put in place by the FCC to make up for the loss of the FTC. Now Repubs are angry because the FCC is doing things the FTC is supposed to do, but now can't.

The solution is to fix the FTC, which won't happen because money is more important.

>>59632934
>Hello my friends I would be interesting on buying very big ammounts of the illegal things you have. I have very money and I want to buy. thank

>>59632983

Because you don't buy raw user data, you say "hey facebook I'd like to run an ad targeting 10k 18-25 males who are interested in glitter and Adidas shoes, let's meet for lunch with one of your sales reps in the bay area and go over the specifics"

That's how it works.

>>59633009
>oh no I now get ads on adidas shoes instead of diapers!
>there goes my privacy!

>>59632983
Because facebook is a private company that relies on trust from its users. You dont buy "data from facebook". You buy "select 15-25 female demographic. Interests: MCR, Fallout Boy. Political Views: Center-left, anarchist tendencies. Hourly usage: 2-3 hours a day, mobile device".
Its not "people of facebook". That kind of data is useless.

>>59633036
>reeeee stop invading my privacy to show me ads I might be more interested in!!!!
Wow, I thought you people were scared of employers firing you for your browsing history or some other bullshit.

>>59632983
>Why is there not one example of a place where you can buy user data from Facebook?
Obviously because it doesn't happen. Facebook makes all their money by magic. I'm sure their ToS includes this just for fun.

" Advertising, Measurement and Analytics Services (Non-Personally Identifiable Information Only). We want our advertising to be as relevant and interesting as the other information you find on our Services. With this in mind, we use all of the information we have about you to show you relevant ads. We do not share information that personally identifies you (personally identifiable information is information like name or email address that can by itself be used to contact you or identifies who you are) with advertising, measurement or analytics partners unless you give us permission. We may provide these partners with information about the reach and effectiveness of their advertising without providing information that personally identifies you, or if we have aggregated the information so that it does not personally identify you. For example, we may tell an advertiser how its ads performed, or how many people viewed their ads or installed an app after seeing an ad, or provide non-personally identifying demographic information (such as 25 year old female, in Madrid, who likes software engineering) to these partners to help them understand their audience or customers, but only after the advertiser has agreed to abide by our advertiser guidelines.
Please review your advertising preferences to understand why you’re seeing a particular ad on Facebook. You can adjust your ad preferences if you want to control and manage your ad experience on Facebook.

>>59632983
Cont.

Vendors, service providers and other partners. We transfer information to vendors, service providers, and other partners who globally support our business, such as providing technical infrastructure services, analyzing how our Services are used, measuring the effectiveness of ads and services, providing customer service, facilitating payments, or conducting academic research and surveys. These partners must adhere to strict confidentiality obligations in a way that is consistent with this Data Policy and the agreements we enter into with them.

TL;DR
Facebook can sell your data and the ToS is subject to change at any time. If you "share" data with Facebook (by using Facebook services) it means they have the right to use it how and when they want.

>>59633059
So what about this scenario where your employer buys your history from Facebook and fires you because they found that you were posting on an alt-right nazi forum?

>>59633035

You're missing the point, of course.

Facebook for example is an AD company in itself with both data AND the audience, they don't need to sell the raw data because they can sell eyes.

An ISP just sells the first three layers. The data will need to be sold to a third party that will be the bridge between the data and the eyes.

There is no regulation on this third party selling ISP data because they don't exist yet.

That's the fucking problem.

Once this gets repealed there will be a new market for that data to be sold in ways that hasn't been possible before by third parties who give ZERO fucks about you.

Until we regulate that. And then the process starts over.

>>59633076
The point of the thread is that that sort of thing will be legal, you fucking retard. The whole idea of passing laws is to prevent people from doing things you don't want them to do.

>hurr but did dey du it b4??!?!
It doesn't matter if it was or was not done before the law was passed. There's no logical reason to support the repeal of the law unless you are personally making money selling user data.

>>59633055
"Alright sales rep man, get me a list of everyone that has ever posted on any of these alt-right super nazi websites"
And thats how you lost your job.

I elected a meme for a reason

>>59633109
Ok here you go
Advertising id #19294858844
Advertising id #29399485858
Advertising id #29939485855

>>59633109
/pol/ once gain BTFO

>>59632005
>the vertical difference between 1/2500 and 1/500 is less than the difference between 1/150 and 1/110
lol

>>59633120
>advertising ID
It comes from your ISP, you massive retard. That company that your mom pays so you can shitpost online. They know who you are and what you do online, and now they can sell it to whoever pays enough.

>>59633155
They know that I connect to a VPN in Switzerland, and used 600GB of transport this month. And the model of my modem. Other than that, they don't know any more than my grocery store.

>>59633180
>its not a problem because its not my problem xD
Must be fun

Do you encript all you traffic, in and out? If not you're just adding another step to the chain and changing nothing, your traffic still passes through your ISP, thats their job.
>implying they cant crack your weak ass security even if you encrypt it

>>59633180
>I'M connected to a VPN so this doesn't effect ME

I'd rather not have to trust, yet another party, who already has no legal incentive not to sell me out as the new gold standard of internet privacy.

>>59633229

Not him, but VPNs are legit though for these purposes as long as he's tunneling ALL his traffic through it.

>>59633229
>>implying they cant crack your weak ass security even if you encrypt it
They cannot.


Alternatively a handsome sum of ISP money would open those private keys right up...

>>59633180
>"Hello, VPN-kun? This is the police, hi. We had a serious tip about you having tons of traffic from nazi sympathisers, pedophile rings, organ traffic and my little pony hosting. We'll be taking everything."

or

>"Hello friends. How does 2 million sound for those keys? No one will ever know."

>>59633322
>the government is willing to pay 2 million to attempt to jail me
Wow, I must be really important!

>>59633322

>my little pony hosting

This is a dead giveaway.

Anyway VPNs are vulnerable to timing attacks and other things too, so it's not like they have to fire up Titan to get anon's keys.

Wait what are we protecting ourselves from here now.

>>59633343
>Wait what are we protecting ourselves from here now.
We're just protecting our cute anime porn. Don't let the government have it. Let us enjoy it in peace.

>>59632416
>If you fix it for me maybe I'll return there.
The only way to fix /pol/ is to purge it.

>>59633341
>its not important if it doesnt happen exactly to me!

>>59633369

Moot should've never brought /pol/ or /r9k/ back.

>>59633248
VPNs have a financial incentive not to sell you out. If they do, you'll stop using their service since there's no VPN monopoly.
You just wait until 'government' makes VPNs a monopoly too.

>>59633369
after we purge you, kike

>>59631987
>getThisManARefugee.png

>>59633322
>nazi sympathizers
Are you implying the holocaust happened, in this day and age?

>>59632210
>communist man
wew

>>59631819

As a britfag i'm glad you guys are getting a bit closer to our Orwellian utopia.

>>59632005
evolution is a beautiful thing :) we are the future of humanity

>>59631819
trump will save us 4D chess, screenshot this

>>59633434
Only problem: Who has to know about bribes?
Make a reasonable amount of money off a userbase concerned about privacy < Make an infinite amount more money selling your data as it comes through (to government or privately owned companies)

There has to be some form more transparency before I'm willing to give in to the VPN meme.

>>59632914
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>59631819
The protections rightfully belong to the FTC, not the FCC.

>>59632910
ISPs wont sell individuals data just as no major service provider sells user data. It's business suicide.

You'll probably be able to sue if that happens.

It's hilarious how ignorant people are about this """""""new legislation"""""""

>>59633077
If it didn't happen before why would it happen now?

Why can't you regards justify this?

>>59632910
>>59634151
This. They will sell a data array without names or addresses.

Y'all gon be backtraced for real suck it americans and your 'freedom'

>>59634184
>Surely scrubbing the metadata of overt qualities will prevent it being used to trace users

>>59634123
Except the FTC regulations no longer apply to ISPs since the Supreme Court ruled in favor of AT&T last year. That's why the FCC regulations were put in place.
>>59634151
Not true. Dataminers will be able to match it to people easily.

>>59634184
THIS IS STILL SELLING THE FUCKING DATA. The advertising industry can de-anonymize it by correlating it with other data they already have! There is NO such thing as anonymous data!

I'm only a right winger so people don't think I'm a homosexual

>>59634151
>implying you will ever know
>implying you didnt agree to it on your T&S
>implying you cant cross-reference databases and get name and address for every field anyways.
>Implying you'd ever win any sort of lawsuit against AT&T right now

>>59632790
>Freedom of speech remains even if you have nothing to say

1st ammendment

>>59632790
>Freedom to bear arms remains even if you dont have a gun

2nd ammendment

>>59632790
>Privacy remains even if you have nothing to hide

nowhere in the constitution

you have no "right" to privacy and never have

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Google and facebook sell your information to target ads at you

My ISP has never shown me an ad, Am I going to start getting popups or ads from my ISP? I mean what are they going to do with my info, they are basically invisible to me

>>59635240
You can always opt out for this thing (atleast for google)

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>>59635260
>You can always opt out for this thing (atleast for google)

but what is the end game for ISPs selling my info, let's say I have been browsing looking for a new truck, they sell that info

how are the truck dealerships going to advertise to me? Google can show me ads on their search site and on sites that use google to manage ads (most sites)

my ISP can't do shit

>>59631819


"our guy"

fuck off you subhuman.

Trump will never sign this bill.

>>59635306

oh yes he will

>>59635306
>Trump will do something smart
Yeah, he definitely has a good track record when it comes to doing smart things.

>>59635306

of course he will. do you really think he wants to do bad against his rich friends? why do you think he got elected, to save the rust belt? LMAO!

>>59635306

he's a republican, all the fucking republicans voted for the bill

he's going to sign it, that's how the game works

I bet no bill has received so much support from the party of the president then had the president veto it in modern history

>>59635215
Privacy is a right according to the UN Declaration of Human Rights which the US signed in 1948

>>59635398
>Privacy is a right according to the UN Declaration of Human Rights which the US signed in 1948

meaningless feelgood bullshit if it's not in the constitution, on the same level as march being Labrador retriever month

you have no right to privacy that you can cite in court when appealing, that's why this will not go to the SCOTUS, it's not a constitutional issue

>>59635398
>Privacy is a right according to the UN Declaration of Human Rights which the US signed in 1948

do you know that the UN is not the governing body of the USA?

>>59635398
This 'right' you call privacy is mostly abused by kiddie fiddlers and terrorists. If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about. This bill is just another step to make America safe again.

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>Spiders could theoretically eat every human on Earth in one year

>>59635443
>This 'right' you call privacy is mostly abused by kiddie fiddlers and terrorists. If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about. This bill is just another step to make America safe again.

weakest bait i have ever seen on 4chan

>>59635426
>>59635434
It isn't, however the right to privacy is implied in articles 1,3,4,5 of the US constitution, and has been recognized in SCOTUS cases
However legally binding covenants inspired by the declaration have been ratified by the US, and those include articles explicitly mentioning the right to privacy

>>59635510
>It isn't, however the right to privacy is implied in articles 1,3,4,5 of the US constitution, and has been recognized in SCOTUS cases
>However legally binding covenants inspired by the declaration have been ratified by the US, and those include articles explicitly mentioning the right to privacy

>implied

There is no constitutional right to privacy in the USA, that is why this bill is constitutional, will be singed into law and will not be taken before SCOTUS

>>59635287
I suppose they can sell your browsing history to other advertising companies, which helps them better direct relevant ads based on your IP and the importance of your browsing history.

So you're looking for a new truck, but Google's automated system somehow deems your interest in anime is more relevant because you've been searching for anime like crazy and you go to myanimelist daily. In this case, if another advertising company has active truck sales campaigns for your region and the info they get from your ISP helps them show you truck ads on sites they advertise on, then it is worth it because a potential truck purchase is of another order of magnitude compared to, say, a crunchyroll subscription, and so the affiliate commission received by the advertiser is higher. Google's system might miss all of this if you clear cookies often and/or you have a dynamic IP, but the ISP won't cause they don't rely on cookies and they're the ones allocating you IPs in the first place.

I don't work in internet marketing, so I might be completely off-base though.

>>59632048
>he thinks hoover caused the great depression

Imagine a world without Republicans.

>>59635537
>in before nothing changes and you still get ads for shit you've already bought

>>59635587
>>in before nothing changes and you still get ads for shit you've already bought

>be me
>buy phone from best buy
>get nothing but ads for phones from best buy for like a fucking month

I JUST BOUGHT A FUCKING PHONE FROM YOU THAT IS THE LAST THING I WANT RIGHT NOW

>>59635537
Another piece of info I forgot: many advertising companies obviously want a bigger slice of the pie, but the current situation favors Google in terms of advertising by a huge margin. ISP data could potentially give them a great boost, even if they'll never get to compete with Google.

>>59635587
That is a possibility. Still, any advantage, no matter how insignificant it may be, helps the advertising market in the long run and if they have a shot to legally improve their methods of tracking your online "identity" (through lobbying for the death of net neutrality, for example), you can be sure they'll try.

>>59635215
Have you even read the constitution?

4th ammendment

Prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures and sets out requirements for search warrants based on probable cause as determined by a neutral judge or magistrate.

>>59635694
>Prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures and sets out requirements for search warrants based on probable cause as determined by a neutral judge or magistrate.

nothing is being searched or seized by the goverment here anon, 4th does not apply

>>59635711
>bill literally says they'll be able to search your history and sell it to ISP's
Try harder, faggot.

>>59635694
>prevent search and seizure
ok two problems
a: you are dealing with a PRIVATE ENTERPRISE not exactly just big brother
b: you are expelling data on their own channels, you signed nothing that said they can't look at your hentai browsing history using their data.

>>59635694
The 4th protects you from government agents or someone acting on the government's behalf from searching you without a warrant, probable cause approved by a judiciary or without one of 11 exceptions.

It doesn't protect you from companies and other private individuals from doing so. Only laws against those actions or individuals do that.

Johnny law has to get a warrant from a judge and then prove in a hearing why he thinks he had probable cause. Sammy Businessman doesn't unless your state prohibits it.

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>>59631819
Congrats.

>>59633129
It's almost like that's how proportions work or something

>>59634184
A person in theory could just find out where he lives or has lived through social media and then put in an order from an ISP for histories of the the demographic that shares the same residential zipcode as the guy. Since most areas usually only have one or two ISPs, it wouldn't be a hassle to deanonymize the data.
In theory of course.

>>59632945
-21

>>59635822
In theory nothing, smart appliances from the same company can talk to each other.

If your phone that you posted that dank meme on puts out data like where you posted from and that you did the same from the same place yesterday they can just look to see if that phone communicated with a smart TV on the same network.

Trace that back to a credit card purchase or an account registered to that TV and the anonymization of the phone data means nothing.

I'm not saying that will happen day one. But give it a few months. Being on top of the information game has a clear financial incentive. And there isnt strong incentive to do otherwise if no one shows that they care.

>>59635726
>>bill literally says they'll be able to search your history and sell it to ISP's
>Try harder, faggot.

no it says ISPs will search your history and sell it to marketers

Government not involved in the search, 4th does not apply

Yahoo, or your ISP or Google can look at your shit and report you if they feel like it, don't like it? don't use their services

http://www.koat.com/article/woman-uses-cpr-to-save-baby-on-lancaster-county-road/9200777

>>59635896
>http://www.koat.com/article/woman-uses-cpr-to-save-baby-on-lancaster-county-road/9200777

meant to post this

http://www.koat.com/article/yahoo-tip-leads-to-child-porn-arrest/5064026

>>59631819
>>59635448

Who the fuck cares about US Citizens' internet privacy when we got a huge spider problem to deal with first?

So what can really be done about this, other than persistent protest?

Is setting up your own VPN worth the hassle? I'd be willing to learn enough to get that done

>>59635955
If you're in the US, move to a better country. Unless you have a good job there or something, there's literally no reason to stay.

Prove me wrong, faggots.

>>59631819
T-Thanks Trump

>lawsuits buy ISP data
>sue everyone for torrenting
>profit

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Don't worry goy... er I mean boys
The plan is going just fine
Don't protest and America will be great again!

>>59633129
Lamo Xd

>>59636010
I dont like the other alternatives and I dont think $2000 is enough to start from scratch in another country.

Narrowing it down to english speaking countries who's laws I understand for the most part, all I'm left with is Brittan and Canada, and they have a worse privacy situation.

>>59636093
With $2000 you could live like a king in south america. But you'd also have to try not to get robbed.

>>59636130
What if I'm black. Does that give me some shielding?

>>59636148
You're 10% less likely to get robbed if you act like a nignog

>>59632005
>prevalence
it's obviously diagnosis

>vote for authoritarian crypto-fascist
>shocked when he does authoritarian crypto-fascist shit

god damn /pol/tards are stupid

>>59631819
of course he'll sign it. trumpfags won't give a fuck about privacy until they've been told to be outraged by it.

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WE DEMAND COMMON CARRIER STATUS!!
WE DEMAND INTERNET AS A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT!!
AND WE DEMAND
8
DAYS
OFF
A WEEK

>>59636148
Yes. People will be scared of you robbing them.
So you can pretty much keep to yourself and be fine for the most part as long as you avoid racist spooks practicing self defense on the innocent.

>>59636242
>vote for authoritarian crypto-fascist
>implying there was an alternative

The shit most angry casuals think this means... Obama already did in January.

>>59636242
Its funny. The guys who use cuck as their go to insult let a fat old man fuck their country as they watch and jerk off in a corner about how much they love it

>>59636398
fucking lol

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>>59631819
This is the most epic meme we ever conceived, even better than Marblecake also the game, and I support it wholeheartedly. The only thing that could top it would be if we memed global thermonuclear war into existance and utterly eradicated this sad excuse for a world.

>>59636490
>we

>>59632297
You think you're smart but are only showing how retarded you are.
"Since it doesn't visibly exist it doesn't exist at all"
- you

>>59633248
maybe if this law goes into effect, more people will get serious about online privacy and Tor/VPNs won't get so much of an illegal hacker reputation from the general public, and more websites will have no choice but to disable those godforsaken captchas and blanket bans, preventing you from even reading their site. i'm against this law too, but with or without it, advertisers were always able to collect and sell your information even if your ISP wasn't able to.

>amerifats defending their banana republic