/hpg/ - Headphone General

What's with the sennheiser veil meme? I've used basically ever legit brand of headphone (sennheiser, audio technica, beyerdynamic, etymotic, AKG) and, ignoring the cheapo budget crap, sennheisers have the best sound out of any of them

Finally a /hpg/ that doesn't suck
Thanks for the non-anime op!

>>59620535
Maybe there can be two HPGs, one for NEET anime autists who listen to anime music and shitpost, and one for normies with jobs

>>59620417
Any specific headphones?

>>59620417
Some Sennheisers are kinda veiled desu. Namely 650's. All similarly tiered Beyer/AKG are bright. AT headphones tend to be just wacky though often have peaky treble. Dunno about Etys.

600 aren't really veiled, though the treble is slightly recessed.

>>59620269
Just got my tma 2 with their most accurate and detailed configuration speakers 4 pads 6 but they are muddy as fug

The paper in the box did say allow for 24 hours of burn in with medium/low sound

>>59622190
You've just made them bassy as fuck, anon. Just take a look at their frequency response.

>>59622294
WTF this is supposed to be the clarity version I didnt think this would pummel me with bass

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Any rec for Made in Japan or Germany headphones?
Budget is ~1000 Eur.

Yes, I'm racist that way.

>>59622309
SO1 speakers paired with EO3 ear pads seem to be the most neutral. Never tried any of their headphones though.

>>59622404
WTF I have to spend $70 for a new driver

Could have got some fancy shit with this money

>>59622354
German Maestro GMP400 or your pics and especially the first gen ones.

There is no decent Japanese headphones outside of Stax electrostatics, but they of course, even cheapest models have mid and high to die for.

>>59622420
Can't you return them?

>>59622468
No they turned out to have a retarded return policy, only new in box

Why do the more retarded bass versions cost more while the neutral is the lowest config???

I thought I could get something better than m40x I see spammed here with these

>>>59622497
>>59622563
Is it possible to have a system wide bass reduction?

If possible would this perhaps produce undesirable results to try and kill bass?

And yes I did notice the bass on their charts but I didn't think it could hurt this much just going from my only real cans the PC 373 they sound like absolute shite

>>59622625
On my HTC 10 by the way for the sound

>>59622625
You could always try to eq your headphones.

>>59622354
https://youtu.be/NtKXGbsA94E

>>59622717
Fucking hassle since I don't always listen to my music on exact the same channel

>>59622851
I think you're stuck with bassy headphones then, unless if you plan on spending more money.

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When you're listening to wavs, the bit rate is higher. I know flac is lossless but if there are less bits, I don't see how it could actually be lossless. Less bits means less bits.
But is wav total placebo? Does anybody even use wavs for music?

>>59622901
>First, FLAC is probably the only lossless compressor that has a published and comprehensive test suite. With the others you rely on the author's personal testing or the longevity of the program. But with FLAC you can download the whole test suite and run it on any version you like, or alter it to test your own data. The test suite checks every function in the API, as well as running many thousands of streams through an encode-decode-verify process, to test every nook and cranny of the system. Even on a fast machine the full test suite takes hours. The full test suite must pass on several platforms before a release is made.

>Second, you can always use the -V option with flac (also supported by most GUI frontends) to verify while encoding. With this option, a decoder is run in parallel to the encoder and its output is compared against the original input. If a difference is found flac will stop with an error.

>>59622901
Wav files are fucking huge, even compared to Flac

>>59623094
Yeah, I'm just getting into hifi music and I've been getting odds and ends off of bandcamp (most in 44.1/16) and it's already building up. Recently went to flac though after a blank banshee album almost took up a gb in wav.

>>59623062
Didn't know that. I guess I should pro ably suck it up and just go to flacs. They format better anyway, wavs have really bad album/track/artist formatting.

>>59622880
Le fucking kill me then

$300 can get you some really nice mobile shit like HD 800 mobile

>>59623176
You spent how much on your headphones?

>>59623204
$200 for this configuration and then it will be $70 for another driver

>>59623273
You win some, you lose some, I guess.

>>59623307
Fuck it I have some Amazon gift card why not I just get the bower and wilkin p7 for some real sound

>>59623518
I've never tried those, so I can't comment on their sound. Might want to do more research for better options out there too.

Here's a decent place for more detail on the headphones.
http://ca.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/bowers-wilkins/p7

>>59623650
I just looked there and the leakage is a no go

>>59623732
>>59623650
According to rtings the QC 35 are the best bet with their treble out performing Sony mdr 1000x, not to mention the best comfort around and mouse cancel as a bonus

>>59623761
I only have really tried open-backed headphones, so again, I can't really be of any help. If you want, there's another headphone general >>59620300. There's more people there; just stay wary of the shitposters. Just fill out the form, and you should be fine.

Sennheiser also makes comfy noise-cancelling headphones that aren't featured on that site, so maybe take a look there too.

is headphone burn in real?

>>59623914
Nope. Your ears adjusting to your headphone is, though.

>>59623888
I rarely got a response actually filling the form, infact I filled out two entire forms and got fucking nothing, probably because I was discussing whether to get a qc 35 or a mdr 1000x etc. And all of that is "frowned upon"

Not sure about senns because they block out higher frequency to make sound more "comfy" and the Bose appear to actually allow for more sound to come

>>59622777

that was so satisfying to watch, do you know any other videos like this?

>>59623977
From what I know, Bose makes damn good noise cancelling headphones. They're just a bit overpriced when it comes to sound quality. They are general flat headphones until you get up into the higher frequencies. If you want a good noise cancelling headphone, then get Bose.

>>59624099

Do you have Asparagus?

>>59624899
Is white Asparagus OK?

can get m40x for 80 euro should i?
first headphones.
will use mostly for when traveling and sometimes movies or gaming.

>>59626428
Pretty nice for the price, but they can get pretty uncomfy with those thin pads and there are better options out there for gaming due to its pretty narrow soundstage.

>>59626559
I dont play much pro shooters mostly league of legends
Im looking for good music/movie sound quality
something that will change my experience and take it to a new level like trying something for the first time

>>59626601
They're good headphones for the price, slightly v-shaped, but I doubt you would find any better closed backed headphones for the price.

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Guys, I realize I might be asking for something stupid but is there an automated way of transfering the correction curve to use in EQAPO or will I have to do it by hand? I don't know if this really makes sound "neutral" like they advertise but it sure as hell gives them a really meaty bass.

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Opinions?

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What are the best cheap on ears like pic related?

I got thesefor 12 bucks but they only lasted a couple months before one of the ears went out.

I have a pressure point above my right ear that makes it fucking impossible to wear headphones without it hurting after long periods of time.

What the fuck do I do?

Are SHP9500S good headphones for $60, or are the better options for the price?

>>59627077
get speakers

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Are there any good IEMs under $100 with metal housings? I was looking at pic related but apparently they've fucking been discontinued and cost $260 for a pair now.

>>59622901

>2017
>still compressing music files

Storage is cheap as fuck, people.

>>59624899
Get out of my conversation

>>59623914
Yes. Some audio products will indeed change sound quite noticeably, but most change very little if at all.

>>59623938
this anon (and most other posters in these threads) don't seem understand the procedure - so I'll explain the concept:

Play brand-new audio product and give a short listen. Note its sound characteristics. Then, without listening, simply allow it to play (burn in) for some number of hours/days. After burn-in, listen again. Note change (if any) of sound characteristics. Last step, enjoy audio.

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>>59629135

They're pretty hard to beat for that price - as long as you can deal with open back phones that have almost zero isolation.

>>59630116
Do you know if an AMP + DAC would help? I'm using on-board audio (ALC1150) right now.

>>59630176
Do you know what isolation is??

SHP's are easy to drive, so you likely won't need one unless your on board crackles or something.

>>59630459
Yeah, I do. Plan on using them at home.

Thanks.

Are there any IEMs that actually provide an oomph? I got Pistons recently and they sound nice but they just have the power to make me feel something.

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>>59629135

Recommendation for a very comfortable over ear closed bluetooth headphone? Location Germany. Thanks beforehand.

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Is there literally any reason to buy IEMs if you already own earpods?

>>59630820
Any differences between those?

>>59631364
you don't hate your ears?

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>>59620269
Oh shit I thought I was the only one who owned these

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What's a good portable amp that will power a 250ohm headphone? Id like something under a hundred

>>59632638
Btw they are dt 990s if that matters

Good over-ear relatively cheap headphones for working out?

>>59632076
Probably the exact same, but if I were you I'd go for the like new one just because it might be in more perfect condition. It's a heck of a deal, and they sound much better than the SHP9500 do.

>>59630820
I think I should have gotten these instead of K7xx.
I'm a little underwhelmed.

>>59633515
Either that, or just spent a bit more than the K7XX and got the HD600 or HD650.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGcCylruRIs
Thoughts on this video?

>>59623159
Loosless compression, anon.

When you "zip" a file and then extract the contents, do you think you lost something in the process?

>>59623094
>compared to FLAC
Depends on the audio in question and the settings used to encode FLAC. FLAC can achieve over 50% file size reduction or it might be only 10% even with highest level of compression.

>>59623914
No if you are referring to audible structural changes in the driver because it's being used. It would basically be faulty if it did.

>>59626839
No. That correction is easy enough to do anyway. Don't touch the range above 3 KHz without listening to test tones such as sine sweeps.

>>59630023
What was the point of the procedure?

>>59633664
Confirmation bias and baseless assumptions; overall a waste of time for all viewers. Merely an attempt to make money off of the viewer via referral links to the products they're shilling.

Don't post shit like that here, or anywhere for that matter.

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Daily reminder that Sennheiser is veiled, cheap plastic shit with muddy niggerbass and overpriced af.

See the light. Come to Beyerdynamic.

>>59634156
I wouldn't doubt that the HD650 would sound off to you when your brain is so used to the sound signature of your Beyerdynamics. It's what you're accustomed to.

>See the light. Come to Beyerdynamic.

You're an embarrassment.

>>59634399
And you're a giant cocksucking massive fucking faggot. KYS.

>>59634156
>one chinese plastic shit headphone is better than the other
you tried, i guess

>>59634810
all of you are just a rich kids who spent more than 300 bucks in plastic shit to listen shit music like Kain Guest in you pc instead of appreciate the good music and enjoy buying records, you don't need spent so much, just buy a decent headphones for 50 bucks and do it, stop postin shit stadistic like ryzben and intel fags if you plug a headphone in a mobile the signtal is shitty, if you want to real music buy a vinyl player and put Sam Cock live album

>>59627048
Koss porta/sporta pros.
or KSC75

learn to solder tho
itll save you a lotta money

>>59632638
FiiO Q1
or E17k if you want a cool display i guess

>>59634842
bro ryzben is betteur

how bad are the 201/202s

asking for a friend

>>59635110
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD201.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD202.pdf

Bad.

Been over a year since I bought my HD650s and I still think they're the best thing I've ever bought. Just wanted to share that with you all/

Are M40x‘es good for vidya or should I look into some open headphones for the same price instead? How badly will people complain if I'll use open headphones at night?

>>59620535
No problem and yeah even I was fucking done with these anime shit.

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>>59620269
I need an affordable daily headphone and is this one okay?

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Thanks /g/entlemen for suggesting these as the poor man's option. Best 24€ I've spent in a while.

At first my ears felt a bit sweaty after using these but I got used to it in a week or so. I'm thinking of getting another pair for the office so I don't have to commute with them.

>>59635993
Are you using the tissue mod?
It cancels the 15 dB 10khz peak a bit.

>>59636064
I considered the mod at first but after a while it turns out it's not an issue for me.

>>59636090
I have the 668b with velloure pads.
They sound really good for the price and I even prefer them over my porta pros.

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This will arrive friday, did I do good?

>>59635868
No these sound terrible.
For 20 bucks you would be better off with a pair of Chinese iems.

>>59636155
yes no maybe

>>59636155
If you got new pads, yeah.

>>59636155
get hm5 pads and you are gucci

>>59637621
>>59637502
what's wrong with the stock pads. They're comfy as fuck

>>59633144
Sorry, I meant the SHP9500S and HD 558.

>>59635110
Not bad at all.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/sennheiser-hd-202-inexpensive-headphones-done-really-well-page-2

>>59639363
Like I said, the HD 558 sound much better. And you can do the foam mod.

>>59638730
lolno. M40x/M50x stock pads are absolutely horrible. Theyre fine for the first like 20 minutes, but after that they get really warm. Shitty small pleather pads do that quite easily. If you've never used more comfy headphones, you might find them alright, but even some similarly tier shit like MDR7506/V6 are way more comfy. DT250's are also way more comfy, though they're velour so kinda a different story.

The pads also disintegrate real quickly, but so do a lot of other cheap pleather pads so I can't get too ass-mad about that. Pads are ultimately a good with a limited usable lifetime.

>>59639774
Thanks.

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Just bought a pair of AKG 240's for 70 bucks, have I done well?

I need some good over ear headphones for a friend

>Location
Around the world

>Type
Over ear headphones

> Open/closed
I don't really care, but probably he doesn't really need any closed back (he listen to music only at home)

>Source
HI-FI stereo, phone, computer

>Signature
Kinda bassy, kinda flat, but I need a good bass kick

>Music
Mostly techno (that's why basses are so important) but also a lot of different genres.

>$$$
Around 500 US$

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thinking of getting this, should i?

>>59636155
No. Shitty reddit meme phones. If you include price of hm5 pads they are no longer a good deal. If you don't buy pads they are unbearable.

>>59620417
Midbass hump I guess, more so with HD650 that also have a rolled off highs. But HD600 are the most enjoyable out of german trio, you get addicted to them, it's a best midrange headphone out of them altho loses in soundstage and has a rolled off bass but the one that sound the most natural. HD600 just sound natural and right, everything else sounds forced in a way for good or for worse.

>>59640189
i mean the only other choice is the MDR-1000X. try them out at a bestbuy or something. both are on display.

>>59622354
I would rather try to find a deal on HD800 and mod them or EQ a bit, but some people like beyers.

What's the opinion on the American Audio HP500?

>>59640524
>American Audio

So I'm looking for some super cheap headphones (under $30), according to reddit the monoprice ones are the best ones for the price, are they right? Or am I better off getting some Chinese shit on aliexpress?

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How ear-rape are these? I see that treble peak and I'm scared.

>>59640887
Superlux headphones are decent, if you want a semi-open pair. You might find them more comfortable too.

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Hey guys, figured I'd ask here seeing as you guys are all audiophiles

I'm in the market for a new sound system for my desktop rig. What brands should I be looking for, and are there any systems you guys would recommend?

Max I'd like to spend is $400

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>>59620269
I'm looking for any and all opinions on these bad boys, since I don't quite have the budget for andromeda's

>>59641323
Is this a bait post or something? One advise, if you can go to the nearest headphone store and just try shit out. You can narrow your choices to lets say 3 headphones but you got to try them out ESPECIALLY if you don't have much experience in it. All those reviews online or people's advises are as good as your knowledge goes for the sake of comparison comparison. I've literally spend 2 hours in a headphone store rocking between HD600 and DT880 but it was so worth it. Now I start to understand my sound preferences and I can finally start making a sense of what other people say and commend on headphones.

>>59641389
Sorry, I didn't mean headphones. I'm talking about a full stereo system.

Non-anime OP

KYS what a shitty thread, this is bullshit only with retards showing who got the most expensive and absurd headphone

>>59641465
Fuck off and die weeb

>>59631364
check Shure E215 and later come back to say if IEMs are equal or just simple similar

>>59641440
this is the headphone general

>>59641501
I know, I just figured that this would be a good place to ask seeing as most people here have experience with audio equipment in general. I'd rather not make a new thread for a simple question

Can anyone link me/tell me which HM5 pads are the "extra thick" ones?

>>59641440
Oh ok, I don't know much about it besides that you can get a very decent speakers for around 300$ and from my limited experience with them I feel that they are generally on the safer side because headphones are 'whops, too much treble good buy your ears :D" There was a speakers general time to time there, might as well start a thread to filter all of the incoming bait/shitposts.

>>59641511
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEgwxGWgiIg

>>59641550
Ayy

>>59640642
So they're bad, right?

Can anyone tell me if its worth it getting a portable DAC like the Fiio E17K? I like listening to music on my Nexus 6P and I own House Of Marley Liberate XLBT. I had a Oneplus 3 and I definitely notice the difference between the DAC in the OP3 and this 6P.

>>59641569
Never heard of them, but the name reminds me of chink shit companies that boasts American shit and such. They may sound decent, but I doubt it.

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RHA T20i or Sennheiser IE80? Not looking for something flat. I kind of want it to sound a bit v-shaped. What's better, the adjustable bass on the IE80's or the different filters on the T20i's? Also, muh soundstage. Recommendations besides these two are welcome. Thanks.

>>59641383
just save for andromeda you won't regret it

Is there a DAP <€100 with a screen that isn't complete dogshit?

>>59641511
Brainwavz Angled padss.

If you want thickness, get alpha pads.

Whats a good headphone for bass heads that doesn't have murderous highs?

>>59642933
Fill out the fucking form.

>>59642933
Fidelio X2s if you want more lows than highs.

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>>59642973
Fine.

>Budget

Under $500

>Location

'Murica

>Source

Schiit Stack

>Type of headphone

Full sized, over ear.

>Open or closed

Doesn't matter.

>Comfort level

I wear it 12 hours a day, I have permanent bumps in my skull from my Q701s, something that won't do that.

>Sound signature

Lots of bass + sub bass, no painful highs.

>Past headphones

M50, Q701, HD600

>No anime shitposting
Is this /hpg/, dare I say, the best /hpg/?

>>59643101
Just a different OP, my guy. There's already a new thread from anime OP.

>>59643187
Thread goes much faster there too; too bad there's a shit-ton of noise and shitposting over there. HD 600s was just recommended to an anon asking for closed-back mobile headphones.

>>59643227
That shit's funny. They can give some decent advice but it's also a lot of nonsense.

>>59643227
The insufferable sennheiser worship is the worst thing about /hpg/

>>59643227
>>59643289
Speaking of nonsense, how would I setup a Magni2 to my PC's soundcard? I'm using a FiiO K1 at the moment and a Creative Sound Audigy 5.1 internal card.

>>59643346
If it has RCA output, just connect them with RCA cables. Otherwise get a 3.5mm to RCA cable.

>>59643391
Will RCA to 3.5mm change the sound output or keep it stereo?

>>59643499
Nope, it'll be the same. As long as your 3.5mm out has proper line-out functionality, should be no different.

>>59643513
Alright, thanks

>>59641752
Can IEMs really be worth 1k? They look like pure sex but I'm not sure even 400 is worth for pods.

>>59641752
It's shit and it's uncomfortable.

>>59644124
>Can IEMs really be worth 1k?
Anything can be worth 1k.

Any reason to not buy HD 600?

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I like my headphones like I like my people:
Not colored.

>>59645364
so you don't like any headphones then

>>59645623
>muh "non-colored headphones don't exist" meme
I bet you like beyers

>>59620269
this is a fake /hpg/. quit calling it that. name it something else.

>>59645672
i bet you think truly neutral headphones exist :)

>>59640130
>50 dollars with free shipping on amazon right now
>just paid 70 dollars

gud deel comrade

>>59645758
With a parametric EQ and enough gain headroom, they do.

>>59645701
This is the better /hpg/, anon.

>>59633786
>What was the point of the procedure?

If you want an informed idea of what the audio product "truly" sounds like, this will prevent you from making premature judgements.

>>59635993
>open back phones at work

You might as well just play your cel phone speaker. It will sound just as annoying to your co-workers

Anyone know a good 4k receiver to get sound quality wise? I have a nice Denon 7.1 from about 6 or so years ago, but it was early ARC and hmdi-CEC so it has some issues, plus it can't support any of HDR or 4k standard stuff. I'd like to get something with equivalent or better sound quality and hopefully not spend a completely fortune.

There is a poineer on sale on amazon right now for around 370, but I'm not sure how it will compare to the denon.

my new padear pro earphones beat my whole collection of IEMs up to my SE215-CLs... they're $10

>>59641383
>andromeda
Sort of bassy. Lacks some 2-6 kHz emphasis as well. It picks further around the 7-10kHz range, some of which will come down to eartip choice. Gets kinda peaky there.
Very low DC resistance that significantly picks up with frequency as with most balanced armatures. With anything other than very low impedance outputs, you can expect some amount of sloping boost with higher frequency. It offsets the upper-mid/low treble dip and bass boost, but can make the higher frequency spikiness worse.

>jupiter
Also bassy. If I remember right: if Andromeda may be somewhat recessed around 2-4kHz, Jupiter is really recessed there.

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For me it's the SHP9500, the best poorfag headphone that have been consistently a pleasure to wear.

I have a question that's pretty out there but I hope someone can answer.

I recently broke a pair of headphones and I decided to try and fix them myself however I broke several lines and cords and I have no idea how to figure out which of them go where? Anyone have anyway to find this out?
It's a [spoiler] Xiaomi Hybrid [/spoiler] and uses a 3.5mm 4 pin jack.

Any help would be appreciated since I am a poor fag and can't afford much right now.

>>59645963
if you have to EQ it then there's something wrong with the headphone

>>59645188
Well you could buy the HD 650 instead. It was a tough decision between the two for me, but I love my 650.

>>59644124
Look for trusted reviews, I've never heard anything bad about them. Worth 1k is relative to income.

>>59645950
I am a Aussie...
They usually go for 150 here without shipping.

>>59620269
Why do people here say no to everything? Why are you all so shitty and arrogant?

>>59640130
I think they're ok for $40 headphones like when they go on sale.
Not really worth it otherwise desu, too muddy.

>>59649174
no

Why are headphones so unbelievably expensive on the UK Amazon website? Is there an alternative set to the UK which isn't extortionate or should I import?

Is he just meming or being cerial?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0DzLwfZufQ

>>59649892
He's meming like always