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Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (try to use a search engine that respects your privacy such as searx, ixquick or startpage).

$ man <command>
$ info <command>
$ help <command>
$ <command> --help

Don't know what to look for?
- $ apropos

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros)
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool games?
https://www.gamingonlinux.com
https://linuxgameconsortium.com

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/749768
/t/'s GNU/Linux Training Videos: >>>/t/713097

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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Does anyone here use GNUStep?
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>>59556706
>that image
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>>59557047
Window Maker is very comfortable and doesn't look like ass out of the box
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How to integrate firefox and it's extensions better with dark gtk themes? When I've been using arc-dark theme, ublock's block element dialog looked like pic related(white fucking text on white background). Now I'm using default Adwaita theme with firefox, but it looks like shit, and if I want to open downloaded archive from firefox, archive manager opens with Adwaita theme instead of system default one. Is it possible to keep my dark theme without breaking ublock origin's dialog?
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rate my gnuitar
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What's the best internet forum software to install on my future server?
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>>59557800
For something as alternative/non-mainstream as a jm, I'd expect a more obscure S sticker.
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>>59557835
>S
OS
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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?
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>>59557346
Options > content > colors
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>>59557885
>2017-03-24-123217_1365x748_scrot.png
Why is your time crippled that way?
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>>59557800
>fender
>expensive shit for the low quality of an elder past.
>mumuh hipster and nostalgic sound
We have real guitars now, even modern guitars made for high distortion have a better clean sound.
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>>59557800

Pseudo-hipster logo on a pseudo-hipster guitar.

2/10 kys desu
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>>59557904
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Forgot to turn on filename stripping
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>tfw the only thing preventing me from using Fedora is the name.

Seriously who the fuck thought it was ok?
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>>59557979
Red Hat
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>>59557979
Red Hat memers thought it's funny.
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>>59557885
That's not what I'm looking for. If I set it to "Always", websites look bad, and any other setting does nothing.
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>>59558032
Which websites look bad? I've had mine set to "always" for ages and most websites look fine, even when I had an eyebleed color scheme. Every once in a while it'll break a checkbox or something but that's the worst of it. Those are your only options, you either take the website the way the authors intended or you override it with your own colors.
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>>59558075
It looks like this.
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>>59558135
Are you sure you're setting it correctly? Try refreshing/restarting browser. I'm also on mainline FF rather than nightly so that might be the issue.
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>>59558167
Now it works, but I'd be happy to see solution that doesn't fuck up site's css. Anyway, thanks. Now I don't have to override firefox's start command.
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Why did linus think a monolithic kernel was a good idea? I've been looking into OS development and monolithic has a lot of issues, even though at the time linux was designed alternatives designs such as microkernels were already being discussed.
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>>59558430
just look at the hurd
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>>59558784
Just got sound support in the year 2016!!!!!!
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Planning on swapping from fedora to ubuntu tomorrow (for game compatibility) what files and directories should I back up?
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>>59558884
That's a pretty weird reason
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>>59558884
~
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>>59558903
some games I like don't work on fedora but do have linux support and I'm missing them so I need something debian based but I don't want debian
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>>59558884
backup /proc
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>>59558430
Microkernels had performance issues due to IPC needed when you place core subsystems in userspace.
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>>59558940
>I need something debian based but I don't want debian
wat
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>>59558884
>backup
>not having your home dir and other important directories on a different partition
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>>59558884
You should have partitioned youre drive with a partition for /home/
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When making backups, how can I preserve creation time. Say moving contents between two ext4 filesystems.
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>>Gaming
>>Linux
What the fuck are you doing?
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>>59559028
not playing games, that's why I'm switching to ubuntu
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Anyone here using zfs? What is its current state on Linux?
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>>59558963
Interesting, so it was an unfortunate quirk of the hardware at the time?
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>>59558940
I somehwhat doubt it's a distro-specific thing.
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>>59559053
Ah, I meant ipc as in interprocess communication.
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>>59559054
it is, the games have linux support
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>>59559070
And? You think Ubuntu is magically different?
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>>59559074
well considering the games got tested on ubuntu and not fedora yes
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>>59559086
That doesn't mean shit
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>>59559154
>games tested and verified to work on ubuntu
>games don't work on fedora
ok whatever you say pal
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>>59559086
Probably just means you would have to compile the package yourself on Fedora.

>being a gaymer
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>>59559202
It's that bad on fedora? Even on arch, where there's no native steam support I've managed to play some games.
>inb4 >>>/v/
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>>59559202
Sure thing buddy, things magically work on one distro but not the other.

>>59559235
Sounds like a serious case of user who doesn't know how to use his system.
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Good thread.
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>>59559003
rsync has such options
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>>59559086
that steam <3 canonical shilling campains is disgusting to be honest
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>>59559855
Good post.
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>>59560045
Good reply
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Why is the color maroon so closely associated with GNU?
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I was wondering guys.
Vulkan, it's new yes, but it's only for games or it can replace the basic driver?
Nvidia driver is shit on debian (tearing etc...), so can it be a better alternative.
I don't know shit desu, what do you think about that? Still need GL if vulkan is installed?
(and i'm really sorry for my english, i'm still learning, correct me if you want, it always help)
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>>59560255
ma-ro-on
mor-on
Its in relation to what stallman is
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>>59560269
Got this joke from reddit?
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>>59556706
Using FreeBSD, I need an RPM package with 'libxrender.so.1' in it. Where do I find the RPM package with this file in it?? I see a site of 'rpmfind.net', is this actually safe? Using the CentOS 7 version of the Linux layer, so if it's from that release it'd be brill...
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>>59560552
>ibxrender.so.1
What is it?
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>>59558279
https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/addon/text-contrast-for-dark-themes/
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>>59560260
Vulkan is not a driver, so it can't replace any driver
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Brainlet here, can I expect hardware that is supported by other distros to be also supported by Arch? Running a live CD and check for myself is kinda not a viable option in this case.
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>>59561221
yes
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>>59561221
Yes anon
What distro are you coming from and what hardware are you worried about?
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What music players who you lads reccomend

>>59557800
>guitar + distro trend when
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>>59561221
Arch is a monolithic kernel,unless you have some obscure hardware that you had to add additional modules to the kernel in your last distro, it will most certainly be supported in arch
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>>59561312
>What distro are you coming from
I'm using Windows 8.1 right now, but I have used Ubuntu in the past and I know Linux basics and how to work with a shell, so I'm not a complete noob.
>and what hardware are you worried about?
I'm actually going to buy a new laptop soon and I will make sure it's Linux compatible before buying it, but as they say, better safe than sorry. If you have tips regarding what hardware to choose and avoid that would be appreciated, though.
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>>59561533
Can't ever go wrong with a Thinkpad anon
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>>59561533
Gahnoo/Loonix*
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>>59561613
>Gahnoo
really? I thought it's just Ganoo
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What the...
What do I do?
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>>59561666
We dont speak surrender flag.
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>>59561666
if you could translate that anon...
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>>59561389
mpd+ncmpcpp

audacious with winamp-like gui

aplay/oggplay/cat file.wav > /dev/dsp if you don't like bloat
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>>59561666
Didn't know hat Satan is french.
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>>59561693
>/dev/dsp
wat
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>>59561389
Just use mpv. Supports shiloads of formats.
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>>59561677
>friendly gnu...

>>59561686
Serious bad bug on on binutils...
Are you sure to want to install?
It's an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
(it's on apt-get upgrade right now)
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>>59561752
we dont speak vague either
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>>59561752
select no & re-run the update some other time
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recommend me a good distro for browsing the internet
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>>59558940
>>59558964
>>59560260
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>>59561830
>google
nice botnet
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>>59561763
>>59561677
I won't forget.
>>59561700
I always get the 666, don't know why.
>>59561785
Ok i'll do like that. Thx.
>>59561830
I am just >>59560260 not the other(s)
Good evening
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>>59561796
Fedora. Why?

- surfing the internet is dangerous. Fedora comes with SELinux built right in!
- Sometimes FOSS browsers like Firefox, Midori or Epiphany (all available in Fedora's repositories) don't quite cut it. Not to worry, Google(tm) Chrome(c) is offered as a ready-to-install rpm package by Google themselves!
- want to add your online accounts to your DE? Just put in your account details and synchronize your mail, contacts, calendar and much more with Google Drive, Dropbox and others!

but in all seriousness, as long as the latest version of Firefox runs on it, what does it matter which distro you use?
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I just heard about this place on r/linuxmemes XD you guys are so cool!
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>read Arch installation guide because I'm tired of using BotnetOS and Debian shits all over my wifi card
"After booting into the boot media, you will be logged in on the first virtual console as the root user, and presented with a Zsh shell prompt"
>Zsh by default

WTF I love Arch now

While I'm here though, can someone give me a quick rundown on Arch as a day-to-day OS?
>have moderate experience with *nix
>happy to configure stuff myself, to a reasonable extent
>dislike bloat
>mainly going to be used for web browsing, development work, possibly some gaming on a GTX960M (if that can even be achieved)
>love apt

Just trying to look around gives such wildly differing opinions that I can't even make up my mind as to whether it's worth it. The minimalistic, bloat-free, configure-it-yourself aspect sounds wonderful, but once configured I like my environments to be easily usable (that's the whole point of customising them), and I can't tell how much of "it will break on every update and pacman will literally break your everything and you will have to spend days fixing it every week" is a meme and how much is real.

And if it really is that bad, any recommendations for a relatively minimalist install?
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>>59556706
is use the network manager open vpn addon to use open vpn,but I cannopt seem to connect to my vpn.... it just stalls in nmtui...
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>>59562160
Arch isn't minimalistic, but it's pretty solid in stability.
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>>59557979
>using fedora
I hope you like being a red hat shill
>beta testing systemd before it was good
>beta testing every shitty new version of gnome
>literally the worst modern package manager with the possible exception of eopkg
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>>59562274
Is pacman actually as broken as they say it is?

I kinda enjoy "apt-get install foo"-and-forget. But if compiling is simple enough (I'm quite capable of calling a make install command or whatever if that's all it usually takes) then I could do without.
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>>59562329
pacman has nothing to do with compiling
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>>59561796
some /g/entooman once made a hardened-gentoo based live system for browsing anonymously (similar to Tails), anyone remember what was it called?
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>>59562160

Zsh is only used on the installer. Bash is used in the "base" package group.
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>>59562160
It's nice but has a lot of problems, mainly incompetent and lazy developers. The install is overcomplicated for literally no reason (seriously, they could just make the parts that are mandatory ncurses...) but not very difficult. Pacman is imo the best binary package manager. The AUR has a lot of packages for people too lazy to build from upstream, especially fonts, window managers/themes and nonfree software.
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>>59562279
>literally the worst modern package manager with the possible exception of eopkg
This whole package manager meme needs to stop. They all do the same thing.
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>>59562347
Correct me if I'm wrong, but my basic understanding was that you often need to compile stuff yourself because pacman is too broken to use properly.

I could very well be entirely wrong, though, so please enlighten me if that's the case

>>59562379
So the whole "compile it yourself" thing is a meme?
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>>59562329
pacman being broken and updates breaking x is a meme. pacman is faster than apt, dnf and zypper.
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>>59562396
nice memes
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>>59562392
compiling from source on arch is largely pointless because you have no USE flags
that said a lot of aur packages are built from source, but some are binary
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>>59562229
>openvpn --config here-you-put-the-file-by-drag-and-drop
That file you have found for exemple on vpnbook
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>>59562425
>mfw I have to install gentoo
That would be a battle for another time. I think I'll go ahead with arch and maybe tackle gentoo if I really feel like it once I'm more experienced.

Also, Parabola is mostly a meme, right? Assuming I'm not a 100% free software hipster.
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>>59562358
No but i'm interested.
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>>59562160
>>59562329
>>59562392
arch is a cancerous meme for many reasons:

- It's "KISS", not in the sense of keeping engineering simple to avoid bugs and making things simple to understand but "KISS" in the sense of keeping it simple for the developer. Arch seems perfectly fine with including complex pieces of engineering that are known to oftentimes bug out, as long as they don't have to write them themselves. Someting like Void or Slackware is KISS in the former sense which leads to both systems being rock solid and typically devoid of bugs.
- I really dislike how Arch' packages are extremely large and how many things they dump together in one package. They don't split library from interface in packages or runtime libraries from their development headers, the latter of which typically being larger than the runtime library itself and almost never needed. Other systems split this off to avoid having unneeded things on your system
- "partial upgrades are not supported", as it stands I lie partial upgrades a lot and I hate to be forced to upgrade thing X in order to upgrade Y. If I want to keep X back and upgrade Y I'd like to do so.
- The entire system is devoid of policies, the developers basically make it up as they go along and change things when the want with no promises for the future. A lot of systems have strict public policies they adhere to so you know what you can expect when you install
- Arch' official repositories are super small compared to most systems, people often praise how large the AUR is, but that's a necessity beause you have to use the AUR for things most systems have officially maintained packages for. And the AUR is still a minefield, any maintainer of a popular AUR package could troll all its consumers at any point and just install spyware or whatever
- Pacman is unsafe, package scripts run as root and can do anything they want.
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>>59562490
continued:
- Arch is in general kind of a system of "good enough" as in they are perfectly willing to let race conditions and other things continue to exist which are sufficiently rare that it's "not really a problem", this is also how they encode dependencies in packages, not encoding a lot of dependencies and above all correct versioning because "Meh, 99% of users will have this package up to date enough"
- Due to the above, Arch can become unupdatable if not updated for a specific time. And since there are no policies it's unclear what that time is. But typically if you come back after 3 years to an Arch install and do a world update it'll fail and throw your system into a malformed state which it can't recover from. They say you should "frequently" update, but how frequent, no one knows really.
- Arch doesn't really support a lot of things like SELinux or other such stuff
- Arch has no policy regarding acceptable licences and how this is handled or in general what software is acceptable in their own repos or anything like that.
- Some Arch maintainers seriously put builds on a cronjob automatically and push it out to the repos when the build completes without error and automatically sign it, no human intervention to as much as check if it all went appropriately or any testing.

Basically. Arch is a toy, it doesn't take itself or its users seriously, is an unregulated system that plays it fast and loose and just makes it up as they go along. It's unfit for anything more serious than a home desktop OS and it's therefore not really used for anything more.

I use gentoo and occasionally slack, but they also have a lot of problems.
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>>59562028
kek
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>>59562497
>>59562490
Nobody cares, you're seriously overthinking shit. It works great without any bullshit intervention and that's why people like it.
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>>59562509
upvoted :^)
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>have multiple file paths
>want to print all of their contents into a file
how do i do this? im pretty sure that echo or cat cant handle all this output
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>>59562497
>>59562490
So should I actually unironically install gentoo

Like I'm trying to find something that isn't full of bloat, has decent design and practices, and I don't really care too much how hard it is to set up as long as it works afterwards.

The fuck do I do

Might as well install some hipster shit like Dragonfly BSD or whatever
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>>59562526
>without any bullshit intervention
exept when you update
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>>59562550
You need the >> operator.
cat file1.txt >> file2.txt

adds the content of file1.txt to the end of file2.txt

echo "kek" >> file2.txt

writes kek to the end of file2.txt
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>>59562497
>>59562490
lmao found the newfag who couldn't install arch :^)
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Arch is the best

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_is_the_best
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what happens when you run
sudo mv / /dev/null
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>>59562735
You'll probably get "/dev/null: Not a directory"
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>>59562766
if rm basically just unlinks a file, whill moving a file to devnull make it completly gone?
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>>59557809
People still use internet forums?
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>>59562795
what are you using?
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How can i use perl like grep and sed?
Can anyone show me some examples?
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>>59562735
>literally "delete system32"
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wew, the linux foundation finally discovered manjaro
https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to-linux/2017/3/manjaro-user-friendly-arch-linux-everyone
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>>59562846
Perl has its own internal grep function
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>>59563073
>check first screenshot
>adobe flash
tab closed, nothing to see here
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How do I make my desktop look like this?
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>>59563339
set pic as desktop background
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>>59563339
>darude sandstorm
The meme is still alive.
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>>59563339
install a tiling wm like awesome, i3, dwm
install mpd+ncmpcpp
open 3 terminal windows
play darude sandstorm
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why is it that on some distros my thinkpad scrolls with middle button + trackpoint, but it doesn't on others?
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>no distro that looks nice out of the box and doesn't have systemd as default
WEW
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>>59562846
http://www.softpanorama.org/Scripting/Perlorama/perl_in_command_line.shtml
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>>59563737
what's wrong with systemd?
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I've download Android Studio for Ubuntu, which is annoyingly not in the repositories. It's basically a zip file which I extract somewhere and has all the program files in it. I have to run a .sh script to start the program. Except I wanta nice executable that I can pin to my launcher.

How do people typically deal with programs that are run by shell scripts? is cd-ing into their directory and running them with bash really the canonical way?
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>>59563836
link the launcher to a directory which is in your path or simply create a foo.desktop file
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>>59563588
It's dependent what package you're using for input as well as a conf file. Like some distros/DEs won't do double/triple touchpad tap unless you have the right package like xf86-input-synaptics or libinput and add e.g.
synclient TapButton1=1 TapButton2=3 TapButton3=2


You should have a conf file somewhere like
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-thinkpad.conf
containing something like
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "Trackpoint Wheel Emulation"
MatchProduct "TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint|DualPoint Stick|Synaptics Inc. Composite TouchPad / TrackPoint|ThinkPad USB Keyboard with TrackPoint|USB Trackpoint pointing device"
MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
Option "EmulateWheel" "true"
Option "EmulateWheelButton" "2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "false"
Option "XAxisMapping" "6 7"
Option "YAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection


I'd bet that you can make it do what you want by editing this file or you may need to add a package (xf86-input-evdev or xf86-input-libinput). Regardless of distribution this wiki page should explain everything with more depth.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TrackPoint
>Default Xorg behavior supports click and point. For the evdev driver middle-click and scrolling requires extra configuration.
>extra configuration
i.e one of the packages mentioned above

After looking at the page it looks like there is also a package you can use for GUI control called gpointing-device-settings.
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How should I partition my SSD and HDD on a desktop I just finished building?

Relevant specs:
512GB SSD (Samsung 850 Pro Series )
3TB HDD (Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM)
64 GB RAM

Based on what I've seen, "/" and "/home" are the best for the SSD, but I'm stuck with what to do with other partitions. Do I need a swap partition with this much RAM?

My Linux experience is limited (dualbooted Ubuntu 16 and Windows 8.1 once).

This desktop will be used for machine learning research.
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It's normal to not have the xorg.conf?
And it is normal that all the graphical stuff go away after creating that xorg in the nvidia settings?
Can't make and save a setup...That's ankward. Have to delete it to repair the graphical boot...
I can continue like that but meh...
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>>59564033
>swap
do you want to hibernate? yes
don't? no
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>>59563765
it took my wife and left!
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>>59564033
>64 GB RAM
I don't understand why anyone would need this much ram.
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>>59564168
Looks like I misunderstood what a swap partition was for. I don't need one.

>>59564209
Training neural networks on massive datasets needs that much ram. Even though the GPUs will do the heavy lifting, you need at least as much ram as you do vram.
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>>59564033
>Do I need a swap partition with this much RAM?
Kek no, unless you really use 64gb (gods...)
If you don't want to make things to delete swap you can just reduce it with gparted, to have more space. (sorry for my bad english)
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what are some really cool things I can do with GNU+Linux?
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lids, when is the nu gnome update hitting arch? is it in testing yet?
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>>59564033
>How should I partition my SSD and HDD on a desktop I just finished building?
Objectively.
SSD: '/' , /usr, /usr/local, /opt
HDD: /var, /home, /tmp

>>59564033
>Based on what I've seen, "/" and "/home" are the best for the SSD
No. If you think that /home should be on your SSD you need to research more. Don't put things on the SSD that are written to a lot. Keep home off of your SSD. SSDs have fast read speeds but their write speed will slow down significantly once you run out of unused blocks -> HDDs can overwrite any and all data without first erasing the data, SSDs can only write on unused or previously erased blocks. And unless you got a really nice SSD the write speed may actually be slower than your HDD. No kidding SSD read speeds are great but the write speeds generally aren't.

>Do I need a swap partition with this much RAM?
No. I can't imagine how you would manage to use that much ram.
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>>59563836
should have an option to add a launcher.

look around in the menu bar.
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>>59556706
Can anyone provide me a shell script that could run after the system has been up for 10 minutes and then delete itself?
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>>59557850
xubuntu. preferably minimal install
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>>59564304
Hack the world.
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What is the best distribution to use for someone coming from Windows 10?
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>>59564564
>Windows 10
I suppose you still have a bit of a cuckold fetish then, so I guess you should use Ubuntu, where you can still get your fix.
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>>59564564
Ubuntu is the more friendly, but the real question is: what do you really want to do with your new system?
Think about it and lurk.
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do I actually need a separate /home?
is xfs /home and btrfs root good (opensuse installer suggests it)?
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>>59564329
It's in [gnome devel]

add this to your etc/pacman.conf


[gnome-devel]
Server = http://softwareperonista.com.ar/repo/archlinux/gnome-devel/x86_64
SigLevel = Never


and
sudo pacman Suu
not -Syu. That's if you already have gnome. If you aren't already running gnome you'll have to install all of the packages from the repo
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>>59564679
You don't NEED it, but it can be useful to have.
If you ever install another Linux distro, it means you can still have all of your files without having to do anything.
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>>59564710
*pacman -Suu
whatever you know what I mean
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>>59564209
>not loading your root filesystem into ram
Do you shut off your computer at night or something?
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What do the /g/uys think of SELinux? Anyone use it on their servers? afaik it pretty much makes all zero days and exploits useless.
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>>59565013
it was created by the NSA and is activly developed by them.
I dont think zero days really count at this point seeing how they can throw some sneaky code in,cause we all know not all of it is constantly audited on every diff.
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>>59565013
I run CentOS on my home server, so it's there by default.
I find it truly stupid how many "guides" for doing anything on CentOS just tell you to disable it, because they can't be bothered telling you how to configure it properly.
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>>59564728
True but I like to keep all my files and documents in a separate filesystem mounted on /home/ and the config files in the normal directory. That way I don't have to worry about differences between configurations on different distros and versions.
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How feasible is it to not install X for an everyday use laptop? The main hangup is most character and framebuffer browsers don't even support html5/javascript. What do?
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>>59564364
Tell me if my understanding is correct:
SSD:
'/' contains system files
/usr, /usr/local/, and /opt contains programs and apps

HDD:
/var contains variable data that persists between boots
/home contains personal files
/tmp contains temporary files that get deleted on reboot

My question is, what should the size of each partition be? And if /usr, /usr/local/, /opt, /var, and /tmp are small enough in size, isn't good enough to partition like so

SSD: '/'
HDD: /home

?
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>>59565079
Install a Wayland compositor.
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>>59565086
You can run /tmp/ in ram as tmpfs
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>>59565086
>/usr, /usr/local/
Splitting off /usr is not a good idea.
>/tmp contains temporary files that get deleted on reboot
Don't bother with this either. /tmp is often mounted as tmpfs, so it will exist in RAM.

>what should the size of each partition be?
It really depends on what you're doing. I would probably go for at least 20GB for '/', but if you're not putting your /home on the same drive, you may as well just use the entire drive for it.
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>>59565086
I would just mount /tmp in ram /home for all your personal files as big as you need on HDD and everything else / on the ssd 20-30GB. No need to mount them all separately unless you have a reason for doing that.
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>>59565098
You will need the xwayland to even render anything as there are maybe 5 programs that are wayland only while the rest pull in X for its rendering
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>>59565181
A lot of GTK3 programs work fine with just Wayland.
I don't know how good web browsers are without xwayland though.
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>>59565098
I said X but I meant also wayland. No windowing/compositing whatsoever, just running everything from the cli. Or am I just being autistic?
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Does a 3.5" HDD enclosure with USB3/UAS that works well with Linux exist?
I tried an Inateck enclosure and it would spam my dmesg with error messages and halt any transfers bigger than a couple GBs.
I also tried one by Startech and it had the same problems, but it would also eject the drive and remount.
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>https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-March/010062.html
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What distro has the least GNU? How functional a replacement to GNU/Linux could you make without any GNU software? The only major problem I could see is not being able to compile the kernel.
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>>59556706
Is there a remote desktop like RDC for windows but for Ubuntu
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Will installing windows 7 alongside a pre existing ubuntu delete all my files?
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>>59566488
No. It will not touch system files or your personal files, but it probably WILL delete the Linux bootloader (GRUB). To repair grub you'll need to boot a Linux live usb (Ubuntu live is good) and then update grub. You won't be able to boot Ubuntu until you do that. Make sure to prepare ntfs partitions first so it doesn't wipe the drive.
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GNOME 3 is pretty nice. I was set on sticking with Xfce and i3 but something about GNOME keeps drawing me back to it. I don't even really know why I like it but I do.
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>>59565086
>/var contains variable data that persists between boots
More importantly, /var is constantly changing.
Ideally not something you want constantly eating away at your SSD. Same with /tmp to a lesser extent but that won't be an issue if you're using tmpfs.

>SSD: '/'
>HDD: /home
Based on your first post I thought you were going more in depth than that. But if you really need to keep it simple, yes. But that will leave /var (which is constantly changing) on your SSD slowly but surely (and needlessly) wearing down your SSD. No way I would be okay with that. Imagine using your PC everyday and in the back of your mind you will always know that /var was constantly reading and writing needlessly onto your SSD eating bad sectors into it because you were too lazy to put it on your HDD.

That said a lot of people are saying to quit worrying about SSDs and how they are much more durable in the current year, I'm not convinced personally.
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>>59566978
>Imagine using your PC everyday and in the back of your mind you will always know that /var was constantly reading and writing needlessly onto your SSD eating bad sectors into it because you were too lazy to put it on your HDD
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>>59557800
You play any GNU metal?
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>>59564710
thanks anon.
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>>59567058
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>>59557850
Gentoo
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>read systemd FUD here
>get memed into thinking systemd is bad
>try some non systemd distros
>Slackware has a nice installer, but is very bloated. I stopped using it when I realised that it has no multilib by default, and that package management is literally just building from upstream, or praying for a slackbuild.
>Gentoo is interesting, but seems too complicated and I don't personally care about USE flags etc (enough to justify waiting for compiling anyway).
>realise that all non systemd distros are needlessly complicated/not binary (I haven't tried void yet so maybe it's different)
>come to realise that systemd is actually quite good. writing unit files is easy, the whole thing is fast and advanced. it's a pity that systemd developers insist on not being simply an init system, and assimilating stuff like udev and logind though.
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What is the lightest distro of Linux I can toss onto an ancient laptop with 1gb of ram? What software is ultra-low memory use in regards to IRC, browsing, and other common tasks?
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>>59564304
Ricing KDE
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Am I retarded or can you not shrink an xfs partition without formatting?
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What filesystem do you guys use? I don't really care about btrfs cool features, I just want something reliable and fast. I always use the newest kernels if that matters.
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>>59567550
>What is the lightest distro of Linux I can toss onto an ancient laptop with 1gb of ram?
I'd pick BunsenLabs. It's Debian based and it has a pretty badass Openbox setup ootb.

Other notable preconfigured light weight distros:

-Sparky Linux
-Puppy Linux
-Porteus
-Peppermint OS

Or you could go plebeian and use Lubuntu. They say it runs fine on 128MB of RAM.
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>>59567834
ext4 all day every day in every situation
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The idea that Richard Stallman is a communist is slanderous and the idea is often perpetrated by makers of proprietary software, including Bill Gates, in an attempt to discredit and suppress the ideas of free and open source software. In his defense I've compiled some his thoughts on this subject as well as some additional information to dispel this fiction.


-https://stallman.org/archives/2015-nov-feb.html
>I advocate a mixture of capitalism (allow private businesses) and socialism (regulate them tightly, tax them a lot, and keep them small).

-https://stallman.org/notes/2015-may-aug.html
>Today's unchecked form of capitalism allows the invisible hand to crush people and toss their corpses on the scrap heap.
>The capitalism that the US had in 1970 was much better than the kind we have today. Thus, I don't conclude that any whiff of capitalism is bad, the way Ayn Rand thought about community. Rather, I say that capitalism must be compensated by community, and effectively regulated by democracy.

-https://stallman.org/notes/2014-mar-jun.html
>Before Reagan, capitalism as practiced in the US created a large middle class, and even workers could get by. We could make this happen again, if we defeat plutocracy.

>The example of China has demonstrated since the 90s that capitalism will not bring freedom to a former Communist country. Now the example of North Korea shows that it does not even necessarily put a limit on the general level of oppression.

-“Free Software in Ethics and Practice” talk at CMC MSU, Moscow, Russia
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrJpXJY4Oow
>Isn't it ironic that the proprietary software developers call us communists? We are the ones who have provided for a free market, where they allow only monopoly.
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>>59568031
-"Bill Gates and Other Communists" by Richard Stallman
-https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bill-gates-and-other-communists.en.html
>Bill Gates discussed patents with CNET under the heading of “intellectual property,” a term that covers many disparate laws. He said anyone who won't give blanket support to all these laws is a Communist. Since I'm not a Communist but I have criticized software patents, I got to thinking this calumny might be aimed at me.

>Mr. Gates' secret is out now—he too was a “Communist,” he too recognized that software patents were harmful, until Microsoft became one of these giants. Now Microsoft aims to use software patents to impose whatever price it chooses on you and me. And if we object, Mr. Gates will call us “Communists.”
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>>59567929
>BunsenLabs
Why? It's a bloated version of Crunchbang.

Crunchbang++ is the true and only successor to good ol Crunchbang.
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>>59568056
-https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html
>In the United States, any advocate of other than the most extreme form of laissez-faire selfishness has often heard this accusation. For example, it is leveled against the supporters of a national health care system, such as is found in all the other industrialized nations of the free world. It is leveled against the advocates of public support for the arts, also universal in advanced nations. The idea that citizens have any obligation to the public good is identified in America with Communism. But how similar are these ideas?

>Communism as was practiced in the Soviet Union was a system of central control where all activity was regimented, supposedly for the common good, but actually for the sake of the members of the Communist party. And where copying equipment was closely guarded to prevent illegal copying.

>The American system of software copyright exercises central control over distribution of a program, and guards copying equipment with automatic copying-protection schemes to prevent illegal copying.

>By contrast, I am working to build a system where people are free to decide their own actions; in particular, free to help their neighbors, and free to alter and improve the tools which they use in their daily lives. A system based on voluntary cooperation and on decentralization.

>Thus, if we are to judge views by their resemblance to Russian Communism, it is the software owners who are the Communists.


-FOSS is not classless

FOSS development communities definitely have classes represented by things such as time spent within the community, amount of contributions made, and type of contributor (developer, systems engineer, designer etc).
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>>59568064
-FOSS is not moneyless

People do make money off of FLOSS. It may not be through the sale of the software, but there are other methods with which to make money such as support.

-FOSS is not stateless

Though many think of FLOSS development in terms of developer communities, many of the projects being developed are a part of larger efforts such as the Red Hat / Fedora Project relationship.


Communism forces resource distribution(socialism encourages equitable resource distribution across the masses). Open source does not encourage any forced distribution of code, its completely voluntary to give out a framework, library (in other words its a commons good) as open source.

Communism in its purest form abolishes class distinctions (no country has pulled this off till date). Open source projects maintains a meritocratic class order. For example, some contributors are more trusted and given more access privileges for commits. You have to first identify yourself as a good committer by submitting high quality patches at a regular basis and thereafter maintainers give you privileges to contribute. Often these core contributors are employed by corporations just for that activity as a full time job.

People make money out of open source all the time (and have gotten huge amounts of market capitalization due to that). Docker is a recent example in the tech world. Communist societies keep money flow under state control.

Don't listen to Bill Gates. The open-source movement isn't communism.
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>>59568063
>>BunsenLabs
>Why? It's a bloated version of Crunchbang.
It has 52 major packages the same fucking number as Crunchbang had so where do you get the idea that it's bloated? You're talking out of your ass and haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

I would compare that to ++ but it's not even on distrowatch and I can't find it anywhere on their website but I'm assuming that it's also 52 because:
>All packages were forked directly from the #! repositories/Github and changed only where necessary to keep it up to date with newer packages.


>++ not even on distrowatch
kek

Also
>version 1.0
>no older versions listed
>website © 2015
What the fuck is going on over there?
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>>59568208
heh
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>>59562358
Isnt that Subgraph OS? Or like older?
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>>59568063
Eh faggot. http://crunchbang.org clearly says Bunsenlabs is the successor.
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>>59568077
>The open-source movement
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Open
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>>59568347
Whoops I'll revise that in the copypasta. Honestly though 'free software' is the absolute worst thing you could refer to it as because normies don't understand it as free as in freedom and it just sounds like cheap free software to them. We don't have a single word in English to describe it like 'Libre' in Spanish. Calling it free is just a bad idea. "Free and open source" is probably the best we have.
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How do i convert my .flacs into .mp3 on linux?
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>>59568402
ffmpeg -i file1.flac file2.opus

Comfiest way to convert things on GNU/Linux.
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whats the easiest way to stay on top of patch management for all these cves for pre-installed libs in linux distro>

some type of apt-get update all command>
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doesn't the mp3 patent die this year?
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>>59568430
Yes, and the decoding one already died.
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>>59568427
since you mentioned apt-get (not all gnu/linux distros use apt-get as package manager):
apt-get update without argument will update all your package sources to the newest version
apt-get upgrade without argument will upgrade all your packages to the newest version
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>>59567939
>Not using btrfs for root and xfs for home
Ext4 development has stagnated and ext3 was fundamentally flawed to begin with. Ext4 is good, but xfs has better performance and equal reliability. I keep all my documents in xfs, but my system files in btrfs because of snapper.
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>>59568423
>opus
My nigga.
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>>59568478
what's wrong with ogg vorbis?
>>
>tfw used to use crunchbang but never switched to bunsenlabs because I like the crunchbang name and crunchbang has the best fetch logo
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>>59568493
wew
>How to choose a distro:

>Is the screenfetch logo cool?
>Yes: Install.
>No: Choose a different distro.
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>>59568493
>>59568511
>screenfetch -A
>neofetch --ascii_distro
This is peak autism
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>>59568511
Finally a good reason to use one distro and not the other.
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>>59568511
works for arch users
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>>59568511
it's the hard truth

beginners are presented with 1000000000000000000 different distros and they have 0 knowledge about how they differ, so the the only way to choose is to literally choosing the coolest logo
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>>59568543
We must go deeper, with luck we can finally figure out the best distro, so, which distro got the best logo?
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Posted this in /sqt/ as well, but I figured you guys would know more
I've just noticed that the company MediaHuman is distributing and selling proprietary software that utilizes GPL software. Isn't this a huge problem?
Should I contact Stallman about this?
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>>59568609
How do you know?
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>>59568640
Because it ships with ffmpeg (the GPL3 version not the LGPL version). My understand is that it would be required to be GPL as well because it is entirely dependent upon the GPL software.
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>>59568609
Read
less /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL
and make sure they *really* violate the license, because freedom 0 also means running a program as you wish (which also means next to proprietary software), otherwise Bash on Windows wouldn't be possible.
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I'm running pfsense as my main router
I've got a few servers mapped with static IP's
pfsense has a feature where static IP's will get a domain name to use
server: foobar 192.168.1.50
lan name: example.net
when on lan foobar.example.net = 192.168.1.50

on my laptop running linux (arch), this doesn't work, but on my android phone and all windows machines it works fine
is there something on linux I could change to fix this
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>>59568680
I'm going to properly read it now, but just glancing at https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html tells me that there's a problem because they don't include a license for ffmpeg or indicate anywhere that it's not covered under their software license.
But also, are you sure about that? Because if that's the case then I could just write, for example, a program that's nothing but a border around bash and sell that. I thought GPL wanted to prevent shit like that?
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>>59568715
there's nothing wrong with selling free software as long as all freedoms are kept intact
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>>59568710
Might have to set your arch machine to use the router as one of its DNS servers.
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>>59568715
Read this: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html
It's a good read if you want to understand the GPL better.
>>
using a thinkpad x301
should I use thinkfinger or fprint? I don't want any closed source drivers
>>
>use RXVT for terminal
>SSH to server
>entering command
>forgot sudo
>press home
>instead of bringing the cursor home it beeps and inserts a ~ character
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>>59568725
I'm reading through GPL3 now and I see that I was mistaken about a couple of things on it. It still seems like a GPL violation because they didn't provide a license or provide information on ffmpeg.
It also utilizes Qt, same situation. I don't know about the license of Qt, though. A quick Google search has revealed to me that Qt's license is apparently a very complicated situation.
>>59568735
Thanks. I probably won't read it tonight, but I'll get around to it eventually.
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>>59562550
cat file1 file2 file3 > outfile
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>>59568763
Actually, I've found https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/1867
Seems like the ffpmeg (devs? team? rightsholder?) knows about it and is choosing not to enforce his copyright.
So I guess bringing it to the attention of the FSF probably wouldn't do anything.
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>>59562791
if you want to delete (overwrite) the /content/ of a file, and not just its inode(s), then you can use a tool like shred, or just manually overwrite it before rm'ing it
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>>59562550
>>59568794
I'm having a dejavu.
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So there are lots of games for GNU/Linux, which come as large .sh file.

How do they produce such a file?
What's a secure way to run such games?
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>>59568921
the .sh is usually just a method of launching the game
most of the game itself is actually in .so files
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>>59568921
they're just an archive with a shell script added as a header

>What's a secure way to run such games?
consider running the installer and the game through firejail, configured to limit what it can access to only that which is needed by the game
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>>59569010
>firejail
Will look into that, thanks.
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Is KDE neon good?
Is it better than ubuntu 16.04? more comfy?

Should I try it out?
>>
Can't get any Linux to install on that old laptop. Grub fails to install. And trying to find an answer for that leads to a lot of incoherent yammering about shit nobody but their special club understands.

Linux remains, as ever as before, a fucking joke.
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>>59569154
not sure if this is shitty bait or someone asking for tech support:
if you want anyone to help you, please explain what distro you're trying to install, and what partition/drive setup you have.
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>>59569171
Tried to install the Bunsenlabs thing. It failed. Tried to install Lubuntu. It failed. Said it couldn't install Grub and that it was a fatal error. No partition. Wiping the entire computer.
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>>59569182
Well, obviously you can't install shit without making a partition.
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>>59569182
do you have a separate /boot partition? UEFI or BIOS? GPT or MBR?
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>>59569182
Use Archlinux. It's the most reliable distribution.
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How can I configure which program x-terminal-emulator will launch?
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>>59569126
every time I've tried KDE it's never worked, though I'm sure that's due to me fucking it up
I just stick to i3
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>>59569200
nice meme
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>>59569154
>>59569182
>didn't try debian first, which has a near-idiot proof installer
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>>59569126
KDE neon is basically ubuntu
everything is exactly the same as Kubuntu
except, you get some packages (Mostly KDE stuff) basically as soon as it's ready. kde is the best DE, aside from maybe xfce
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>>59569222
>kde is the best DE
everytime I tried it, it felt kinda clunky and slow. Maybe I am just too used to unity.
Guess I gotta give it a try
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>>59569219
I doubt Debian is any different from Lubuntu in that regard. (Maybe even worse since idiots won't know how to get non-free drivers)
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how do I get fprint with pam to work for login an sudo etc? on opensuse
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>>59569200
kek
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>>59569308
only issue with arch I've had in the past 4 years of using the same install is forgetting to run mkinitcpio and fucking my system
>>
hey guys, can you help, I've not time for distrohopping, can you just tell me which distro is the best?
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>>59569319
Gentoo
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>>59569327
>>>/r/eddit/
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>>59569327
waste of time
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>>59569319
>can you just tell me which distro is the best?
Ubuntu. It really just werks
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>>59569373
Why Ubuntu instead of pure Debian?
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>>59569380
I like unity
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>>59569126

>more comfy
>describing software with the comfy meme word
Kill yourself.
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aaand one more nonfree program uninstalled
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/free-rarv3-extraction
>>
What's the most comfy and lightweight dock panel on XFCE?
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>>59569619
What the hell did you use in the last years to extract rar archives?
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>>59569619

Nice.
It mentions RARv3, will it handle every RAR file? I don't really know if there have been newer versions released after that.
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>>59569633
the nonfree 7z package ;_;
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>>59569638
afaik there was unrar-free which could extract rar files, but not rarv3, unar can extract both
>>
~$ pacman -Qi $(pacman -Qoq unrar)
Name : unrar
Version : 1:5.4.5-1
Description : The RAR uncompression program
Architecture : x86_64
URL : http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm
Licenses : custom
Groups : None
Provides : None
Depends On : gcc-libs
Optional Deps : None
Required By : None
Optional For : file-roller
Conflicts With : None
Replaces : None
Installed Size : 299.00 KiB
Packager : Antonio Rojas <[email protected]>
Build Date : Wed 31 Aug 2016 09:08:14 PM CEST
Install Date : Thu 01 Sep 2016 11:37:30 PM CEST
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : No
Validated By : Signature
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>>59569619
There are people creating rar files in current year?
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>>59556706
My graphics card is not supported by Linux.
And.people claim that "Linux runs everthing"
pic related
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>>59569651
7z package should still be free software, what are you talking about?
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>>59569706
install gentoo
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>>59569706
Did you provide the specs of your graphics card to Linux developers?
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>>59569714
Gentoo is Linux too retard
It will have even lesser of support for his graphics cards than Ubuntu.
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>>59569711
p7zip itself yes, but not the p7zip-rar package, which provides the rar support.
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>>59569720
What specs? The model number?
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>>59569729
install the ubuntu version of gentoo
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>>59569740
No, the documentation of that card which explain how to interact with it?

Ho, it doesn't exist... Because you buy a slave graphic card...
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>>59569731
>>59569633

There was also unrar, but as mentioned it's non-free. This might sound like a small thing, but its impact is quite thorough. Like it's plugging a small, but serious hole.
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>>59569626
pls respond
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>>59569673

>ma look at me how unique and smart i am for unnecessarily complicating things
What's your point idiot? Everyone knows that unrar is not free.
Kill yourself and your narcissistic desires.
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>>59569755
I didn't care using a nonfree program when there's no free program available, but when I discover a libre replacement, I replace it.
It just feels better.
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>>59569765

All software weighs the same (negligibly) and software is virtual, so it cannot be comfortable.
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>>59569771
Because I like rar. One day I will buy a license.
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>>59569784
>One day I will buy a license.
lmao
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>>59569754
>blaming the hardware
I am okay with that.
But then don't claim that "Linux on everything".
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>>59569797
I don't blame the hardware, I blame the lack of doc and the slaves who buy such things and complain.
>>
>>59569797
Also it would be good if the members of the Linux community would be honest and instead of keeping us waiting to use our laptops would simply agree that at least right now no solutions exist for cards like mine and we should probably migrate to the worst OS(Windows).
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>>59569783
That's not very friendly.
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>>59569802
Well not everyone can buy a ThinkPad or a XPS.
I for one, am from a middle class family in a third country and buying this laptop was a need for us because of my studies.
Looks like Stallman and his devotees live in a Ivory tower.
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>>59569816
Unless you give details about your card that doesn't work your complains will be filed under user-error.
>>
>>59569797
>>59569816

You still haven't mentioned which laptop and which hardware you have.
If multiple people reported that they got it to work, it doesn't mean they're lying, it means you don't know how to get yours to work.
I also seriously doubt that there is mainstream hardware (cheap on laptops) that would be so obscure that it doesn't work with Linux.
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>>59569847
>>59569848
Yes. It does "work" with Linux but the CPU usage and the boot up time areabnormally high.
Also a large video, say a movie, stutter sometimes.
Also Firefox or Chrome or Chromium takes ~15 seconds to start.
Even the file explorer takes ~5 seconds to start.
>>
Is it possible to remove all antergos bloat and turn it into standard arch?
>>
>>59569885
If you want Standard Arch, just install Standard Arch. It's the easiest way to get there.
>>
>>59569885
Why? Do you want to be cool when posting your screenfetch?
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>>59569890
>implying arch makes you somehow cool
>>
>>59569887
>>59569890
Because the other arch installers don't work on my thinkpad and I'm too pleb to do it the hard way
>>
>>59569885
try arch-anywhere
it's literally made for installing arch for people who can't
>>
>>59569908
Installling distro A and turning it into distro B will always be harder than installing distro B.
That should have been obvious. Calling installing distro B the hard way is flawed. It's the easy way, your crazy idea of distro-morphing is the hard way.
>>
>>59569870

>no CPU information mentioned
I have computers with worse specs than that and none of that happens. You don't know how to use your comptuer, this is a PEBCAK issue and you're just looking at excuses for your retardation.
Buy an SSD if you want your programs to start faster.
>>
>>59569908

You're a pretentious idiot. If you were in a position to "need" Arch or any other distribution, you'd know how to install it or how to use it.
Kill yourself you poser.
>>
>>59569932
Antergos is just arch with a sticker theme...
>>
>>59569945
but it's not the same logo
>>
>>59569942
>kill yourself
bitch please, friendly thread
>>
>>59569870
>it doesn't work
>it does work, but

Those are mutually exclusive. Your screenshot also doesn't tell shit about what you actualy have and use.
>>
>>59569934
6th generation Intel Core i5-6200U
I agree that I don't know much. That is why I am asking for help.
But don't be negative.
I would be happy if you can tell what exactly is the problem.
>>
GNU/Thread: >>59569964
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>>59569942
Nobody "needs" arch. In fact only pretentious idiots would use arch.

Kys fggt
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>>59569765
>>59569626
Have you considered just using an xfce panel with transparency + window buttons and some tweaked settings to make it into a dock? I don't use it this way but hacked it together pretty quick for proof of concept.
>>
>>59569989
can you rephrase your question
>>
>>59569915
arch-anywhere is great. I wouldn't do an old school arch install again.
>>
whats the point of installing arch again?
it has no averages, in fact it's worse than every other distro
>>
>>59570023
There isn't. It's for people too dumb to use Void.
>>
>>59569996
Thanks anon, I guess I'll try that. Everything else so far was either too fancy or needed too much configuration.
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>>59570023
>whats the point of installing arch again?
>it has no averages
Averages?
>in fact it's worse than every other distro
Quite the opposite it's actually very stable contrary to popular belief and has good repos as well as access to the AUR giving easy access to any package you could want. And you get mostly unfucked with packages from upstream. And probably the best package manager. You don't even need to install 'Arch' to get it. Antergos/Manjaro/arch-anywhere whatever.
>>
>>59570205
see >>59562490 and >>59562497
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>>59570212
I don't care about any of that nonsense. Everything works good and it's the best user experience I've ever had with Linux, and I've used most major distributions extensively, and that's what matters to me.
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>>59570250
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>
>>59570250
>pepe.png
this isn't pepe, dumb redditor, that's apu apustaja
>>
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>>59570262
See pic related, in which the creator of the Linux operating system corrects RMS and the GNUtards
>>
>>59570598
It's a fake?
>>
>>59570611
yes anon
>>
>>59565237
I support your autism and would also like to know the answer
>>
I have a nvidia geforce 920M on my laptop.
Is it gonna be hard installing the proprietary driver on debian?
>>
>>59570023
>worse than every other distro
- mostly-vanilla packages with most functionality enabled at compile time
- fast and simple package manager
- gigantic user repository making manual installations a rarity
- rolling release with most packages on their latest stable upstream release at all times
- very stable considering the previous fact, at no point have i felt like i'd be better off with a more stable system
>>
>>59571048
see >>59570212
>>
>>59571048
oh yea,
- top tier wiki, full of practical examples. even users of other distros find it helpful, it's that good
>>
>>59571059
he bring up valid points, which i do agree with as well
i'm not saying arch is perfect, or that it's suitable for everything
but it suitable for what i use it for, personal desktop OS, which he himself mentions it is usable as

would i use it on a critical machine at a large workplace? nope, but that doesn't make it any less suitable on my personal desktop
>>
>>59562583
not him, and i personally use arch, but i used gentoo prior
gentoo (or funtoo) might be something you'll like, just keep in mind that you'll probably spend a lot of time compiling things unless you;
- get your USE flags sorted out quickly, forgetting something and adding it later might require many things to be recompiled
- don't install new software often
- don't update often/like to stay on current versions of software

as far as "getting things exactly how i like it" go, gentoo is up there, just with the disadvantage of not really having a choice in making it how you like it (the defaults for USE flags, iirc, are really barebones, which makes sense, but probably not practically useful), and the need to compile anything that changes
>>
>>59571066
how is the quality of the wiki related to the quality of the distro?
>>
>>59571236
i'm not sure how you can compare them
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>>59571216
if you're wondering why i don't use it anymore, i tend to use or at least try out most of the features of the software i install, so there was constant USE flag updates and most stuff got recompiled more than once while still on the same version
the potential disk and memory savings from stripping out unneeded functionality wasn't significant on my desktop, despite being pretty outdated at the time (dual core/3G ram in 2011)
so the main selling points of gentoo just didn't really suit me for this purpose
if i was to put together something with a specific purpose/featureset in mind with constrained hardware, i would still consider gentoo for that
>>
>>59556706
Is there any similar setup like .xinitrc and startx for wayland?
>>
>>59571339
If I want to generally customise my things but not to the point of perfectly tailoring every single install with individual USE flags, would you recommend Calculate Linux?
>>
>>59557904
>not maim
>almost 2018
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>>59572036
maybe, i haven't tried it or know too much about it
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