/wt/ - Watch Thread

How to create a unique/successful minimalist watchbrand

https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

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Thoughts on this Railmaster?

It uses a 3205 cal, automatic column wheel chronograph based on the Piguet 1285

I love the railmaster style, but don't want cuck axial and don't have 10grand for a vintage ck2914

I am looking for a good chrono at some point and while I am pretty set on an El Primero I feel this could be easier on my wallet

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>>59555442
Shit pic, so here's some overblown render

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>>59555442
If the el primero is what you truly want just save up.

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>>59555462
All the el primeros that pop up are fucking hideous defys or some nasty plated gold.
The pic you posted and this are what I'd go for.

I also find it hard it hard to justify more than a month's salary on a watch

When will we see a watch made on Openmovement?

>>59555583
Are you a grill

>>59555627
no but a guy with tiny wrists
also i got the wristband in black

>>59555622
what?

>>59555622

Their website still projects 2018 before the first prototype gets cased.

>>59555622
I don't get it. Looks like hipster faggotry

>/wt/ - Watch Thread
>click "W"
>activates command "watch thread"
>watch watch thread

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>>59555714

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>>59555622
>Openmovement
neat

>>59555339
Kek

Citizen just dropped automatic divers

How does the dad phenomenon work? I thought it was a meme that dads like shitty busy dials and companies made them for that demographic and then just yesterday my father told me about brietlings he saw at the jewlers

>>59556246
They didn't really have any left anyway, apart from one ugly one I believe.

Still why does Citizen hate their own Miyota 9015 so much?

>>59556261
Baby boomers.

Complicated must mean it's good
Expensive must mean it's good

>>59555462
>Dress Chronographs

For what purpose?

>>59556304
Oh, and heavy. Heavy must mean it's good

>>59556315
For timing how long it takes your butler to bring your caviar at your formal party.

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How can I get my hands on pic related in UK? Is eBay my only hope short of going to Japan?

>>59556653
Disgusting

>>59556315
Not looking like gaudy, tasteless shit?

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How does /g/ feel about solar watches? I've been wearing my Seiko solar for a few months and I've been enjoying it.

>>59556708
It's hard to have an opinion on something with so little importance. IF it keeps your watch going, then great...

>>59556653
Do you actually like aliens and want a piece of movie history or do you want it because it's a meme watch?

Did Seiko stop making quartz chronos with a 1/10 or 1/5th of a second sub dial?

I have only seen them on vintage models. And browsing their most expensive quartz chrono line up they don't seem to have any that can time in increments smaller than 1 second.

>>59556745
mecaquartz are 1/5th on the main chrono hand i think

>>59556708

The solar power on my GW-5000 is kind of annoying, because I don't wear it all that often and have to keep it by the window or it runs down.

I guess I could turn off the beep and the atomic sync, but I use it to set everything else and then what would be the point of it? Still less of a pain in the ass than an automatic winder, I guess.

>>59555322
I've been wearing my new cal 1230 for two days and thoroughly recommend it.

>>59556797
I'd agree with you there. It's a real pain when I decided to wear my Seiko 5 once or twice a week and have to wind it back up and set the time and date.

>>59556767
Is this the replacement of the 1/5th subdial? Because honestly I prefer that to a main hand that records the increments.

>>59555462
>>59555481
These are the best Zeniths too imo

>>59556767
this is correct.

>>59556817
no idea what you're talking about. post a pic.

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>>59556850
Cleaned it up a bit - case still has a little grime to get off. And is of course still really grossly polished - will need somebody to at least get the whole case to a consistent finish.

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>>59556731
Both. This watch seems to have jumped from the £350RRP to like £500 already...

>>59556918
Disgusting polish.
That's an electrical or quartz?

>>59556966
It's a 720hz tuning fork (same as the op pic)

>>59556745
7t92 has a 1/20 second subdial, the SSC line all tick at 1/5 second intervals like the mechaquartz 6t63 as far as I know too.

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What watch is she wearing?

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Hey guys, I saw this grand seiko model down at my local boutique, going for 2800usd.

Its the SBGR087. There doesnt seem to be a lot of information about it online, except that it uses the 9R65 movement.

Is it an older model? I like the look of it and it fits my skinny wrists.

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>>59556261
My dad wore a seamaster for 30 years from the 80s he bought brand new.

Then he got a oyster perpetual but it fucked out so he wears some cheap tissot now while he looks for something new

Tldr: #notalldads
/blogpost

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Come at me bruv

>>59557278
kanker

>>59557283

Don't come that hard

>>59556261
My dad wears a 90s Tag F1 chrono, it was given to him by the McLaren formula 1 team.

>>59557214
that's a lot of coin brother! perhaps buy something you love rather than like.

>>59557214
Spring Drive or death, brother

>>59557436
Enjoy you maintenance costs.

>>59557214
N I C E
I
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I don't know shit about it that model in particular, but great movement and dial.

>>59555648
>what?
Basically an open source watch movement. It is not fast moving but still, I had hoped a watch would be on the horizon soon.

http://www.openmovement.org/?lang=en

>>59557629
What;s the point of this when you can buy "closed" movements off the internet and put them in watches?

An "open source" physical object makes no sense.

>>59557649
Good luck trying to get parts for an ETA movement lately.

>>59557649
Memeing about ETA shitters is getting old. We need something new to shit on

>>59557663
I just went on ebay and there are ETA movements for sale.

Unless Seiko discontinues the NH35 I think we're ok for movements.

>>59557691
>ETA stops selling to non swatch
>Swiss ETA shitter companies forced to use Seiko movements

Oh please let it happen it would be funny as fuck.

>>59557677
Does the t in those "eta" movements stand for Tianjin?

>>59557701
sellita is still a thing

>>59557751
Don't they just make ETA clones?

>>59557759
exactly, so the shitters would use that instead of having to change everything over to seiko

>>59557663

Why? What's going on?

>6R15 movement in one of my watches is less accurate than the NH35 movement in one of my other watches.

Reee I thought 6R15 was the superior movement? It's losing 5 seconds a day. Should I get it regulated?

>>59557469
>not getting it done during a holiday to Japan
It's okay mate, you stick to your Snk809s :)

>>59557845
the accuracy manufacturers give is a worst case scenario. you can get a 7s26 that happens to run +-0s/d, that doesn't make it a better movement than a -1/+5 8R.

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what the actual fuck

>>59557869

My garish gold-plated Seiko 5 ran at -0/+1 sec/day for months when I first got it. Now it's usually between +2 and +4. I am still pleasantly surprised by it.

>>59557900
you got lucky.

>>59557950

Very lucky indeed!

Do you take your watch off when having sex?

I dont, I use the chrono to see how long I last,

>>59557670
Vostok

>>59558093

Ah, so that's why you wanted a 1/5 sec subdial.

>>59555322
Is that a piezoelectric motor?

>>59558113
Absolute mad man

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>>59558113

>>59558129
It's a tuning fork that shakes a sealed box with a magnetic wheel inside (the one you see in the video with four holes). The magnetic wheel then regulates the gear train.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YkFsAVECBWA

>>59556653
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142316619979

This might be your best chance but it's probably gonna get up in the 400s...

>>59555442
The movement is excellent. Much better chronograph than the speedy pro (solid pusher feel, no seconds-hand jump. Good power reserve.

But way too fat for your wrist.

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>>59558536
Although FYI buyer beware and no returns accepted for this seller

>>59558671
Uhh, returns are accepted and that's not this seller...
What do you mean?

>>59558736
Derp I'm dumb sorry.

>>59558671
>No returns policy

Literally illegal in Europe

>>59557649
The ETAs are basically 1950's technology. Things have moved on since then. Just not ETA. So a movement that is in on the times is what is needed.

>>59559057
That's why we have seiko.

Sorry I don't get the point of an "open source" movement. Open source code is good when you're creating a program but how can a movement be open source?

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What you guys think of my collection? I know nixon is cancer but I like the look of this one a lot.

>>59558895
not for auctions

>>59559092
have you not seen shit like the open source phone, open source laptop, open source graphics card?
they're all pieces of shit that either never came out at a consumer level or just never became a reality. and when they did, they were complete garbage.
open source hardware is retarded. the only thing that makes sense for "open source" physical stuff is sharing models for 3d printing.

>>59559094
>nixon
>like the look
see the first reply of this thread
anyway your collection sucks, you only have bad watches.

>>59559118

Depends:
1) if you didn't buy the product you wanted
2) if the product was damaged in a way that was not in the description
3) if its a fake of what you thought you were buying.

Then yes there is a European law you can return it.

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Did I do okay on my first watch wtg?

>>59559118
Distance selling regs say I can return anything 30 days after purchase just because I've changed my mind.

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The worst part about being into watches is never-ending shit like this on my facebook feed. There's some new piece of shit coming out every couple of weeks it seems.

>>59559166
Umm, like this you mean?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KMbHNoY5zc

>>59559314
>Plastic

Ah yes this will keep time good

>>59559305
>facebook
You chose your own fate

>>59559218
2 of those 3 are literally fraud. You're basically saying fraud is illegal.

>>59559218
You can also return something if it doesn't meet the requirement you state you want the object fore.

Like if you say "I am buying this item because it does X" And the seller doesn't correct you saying it can't do X then he's broken the law.

>>59559528
Too useful to not have Tbh.

>>59559314
no i wasn't talking about watchmaking for 3d printing

>>59559094
Horrible/10

>>59559305
use adblock retard

>>59559626

1) It can happen you buy a product by mistake eg buying a baking machine that can't make white bread.
2) Sometimes products that are sold secondhand are considered in good condition for one user and another user can find this unaccaptable eg buying a watch with a hairline scratch some people can live with it some can't either way if it wasn't mentioned you can send it back.
3) Sometimes people buy a Phone online for a cheap price and are too ignorant to know its a knock off again if you buy a replica Rolex watch which is not illegal but not the real thing you can also ask for your money back.

and yes fraud is Always illegal

Anymore questions?

>>59559853
are you a autist

>>59559872

I am a lawyer so yes.

>>59559094
the omega is nice, if basic

>>59559305

i recognize that, it's the chink standard movement.

seems to be the the """""""best"""""""" cheap luxery mechanical watches are the Russian/German ones which bought old Swiss movement designs like the Strela/Poljots

anybody recommend these? A quality one can be found for $500, whereas from my searching you need to spend about $800 on a vintage Omega or Rolex

>>59559720
>have bookmark for messenger on desktop
>only have messenger app on phone
>have FB email you for event invites, wall posts, etc. so you don't miss out on anybody communicating with you

the facebook newsfeed is cancer

>>59559793
I do, none of them block out sponsored fb posts for me.

>>59560564
>right click
>block element
you are on /g/, right?

>>59560573
Would block one individual advert but not all of them, all facebooks targeted stuff is hidden so it looks no different to any other post to an ad blocker.

>>59560527
You're not really comparing like with like. The fake Russian watches' main competition is Seagull really, who also make decent movements with Swiss technology. Only difference is that theirs are a lot cheaper because there isn't a scarcity of the movements since they're still being made. If you like the look of one then feel free, it's your money and you could do a lot worse.

Though bear in mind that if you live in the US it'll be almost impossible to get serviced without sending it back to Europe which is time consuming and may cost money if customs decide they want you to pay import tax again.

>>59560849
Not him but shouldn't any good watch maker be able to service any watch?

>>59560890
Not necessarily, a movement they're unfamiliar with (especially a chrono which is what he's buying) is asking them to do a lot more work than an average job.

>>59559482
>Has not heard of Delrin used in Valjoux.

>>59559720
>facebook
>useful
choose one anon.
It may help you keep in touch with family or something, but don't try to pass it off as a useful tool.

>>59560947
I don't need to send my car back to Japan for it's service 2bh.

Movements should share similarities so that someone who hasn't worked on one before should be able to service it. Just like a mechanic can fix any car.

>>59559094
The Omega is the best one and even that looks like a vintage Seiko 5.

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>>59559231

>>59559305
I just post a link to the watch on Aliexpress in the comments.

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Whats the best watch, used or new, to represent me a a medical school student/doctor for 4-10k€?

I like the milgauss, but Rolex is for low class retards, but so is everyone else.

>>59561300
You should save your money for paying back that $200,000 debt when you graduate.

>>59561300
>Rolex is for low class retards
That's why a Rolex would fit you so well

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>>59561300
>Reflexively talking down Rolex
Grow up

Get a watch with a 15pulse pulsometer.

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Today I serviced this Hohol Special Poljot 2416. After setting everything near zero I got a 240° amplitude, which I guess is not bad, huh?

I'll check it again tomorrow when the oils have spread around already.

Also tomorrow I'll be picking up a 2209 tonneau-case Amphibia from the post. I guess I should eventually sell a few of these already.

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Lads

What is the best way to put a new hole in a leather strap

>>59561963
leather punch

>>59561744
Wow this watch looks great, I'm not even a doctor but I want one. What model?

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>>59561300
I think there are one or two JLCs in that segment.

>>59561744
If he is a student he is way too young for a mid life crisis.

>>59562061
This is a Seiko 5s21-7a10. It is a quartz high-beat (4hz) with a vial of liquid inside that dampens the movement of the second hand, resulting in a completely smooth sweep.

I believe the 5s21 was only made from 1989 to 1991. There are always some on Yahoo jp auctions and occasionally some on eBay, though there were a lot of case/dial designs so good luck finding this exact piece.

>>59562393
Sounds like it's not something I can order on amazon right now for less than $200

>>59562407
No, although if you watch auctions, watches with this movement go for around 200, which seems like a phenomenal deal to me

Are there any non luxery branded pulsometers?

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>>59562626
Second hit on Amazon for "pulsometer watch"

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>Diver Chronograph Puleometer

So is this a meme watch or?

Is it for taking heart rate underwater?

Hooray, my replacement Polaris GMT arrived and in working order. The blue hands look pretty good and the dial is quite sparkly and iridescent. Unfortunately none of these things show up in photos.

The dual-time addiction is unending but fortunately I don't have anything in mind for the next one.

>>59562818

Maybe it's for lifeguards.

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Jesus Christ

>>59563051
Is that a picture of a real watch? The crown and pushers look a bit weird. To be honest the watch design itself is fine but the tie-in is horrifying

>>59563135

Skagen does that repulsive smooth crown thing too. It appeals to nullos.

>>59563135
Might be a render but it is an actual watch that exists.

The same company also makes one with "CSI" on the dial.

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cop?

>>59556261

My dad is dead.

>>59563616
Does he ever say "hi anon I'm dead !" like a dad joke

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Here's a better view of an Alex Jones watch

Can you guys see what it is?

>>59563905
It's a submariner, nigga.

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My usual dress watches: a handwinding Tissot Seastar PR516 and Bifora Automatik (caliber 910).

>>59563905
that's a different watch than the last picture I saw of him. That one is a no date sub

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>>59536699
okay reporting back. It is adding 1 minute around every 15 hours and I think i fucked up the spring :(

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3135 will rise again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hqc-kzI68M

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who /brown/ here

>>59565682

I do not like things that are brown. Sorry.

>>59565682
This would be great if it weren't that shitty gold color.

>>59562250
Nice design. Shit strap though.

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Does anybody recognize this? Cool Rado found by a friend in Pakistan. Don't know anything else.

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snk805

>>59565879

What colors are Sat and Sun on the day wheel?

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>>59565879
....If that's an 805 your camera/lighting needs some work

>>59565916
its an 809. typo

>>59565907
red for sunday

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Im diggin the new GS chrono. this one doesnt have massive and obnoxious pushers.

>>59566564
I dig the running seconds. Tell me there's a non two-tone one though.

>>59566564
Yeah, it's just a massive watch in general. Nearly 47mm diameter and over 16mm thick.

Too big to actually be worn.

>>59566747
It's bi-material, rather than just different tones. The black is ceramic, the metal is titanium.

>>59566992
>The black is ceramic, the metal is titanium.

Neat.

>Nearly 47mm diameter and over 16mm thick

Yea that is far too big.

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This watch is in all seriousness stunning irl

>>59567066
>""""stunning""""

>>59555339
>/s
wow i didnt realize that wasn't sarcasm thanks for looking out for my best interests reddit

>>59561030
>Just like a mechanic can fix any car.
they really can't

>>59561933
get a strap for it now.

>>59567066
no, i have one and they're obviously cheap pieces of shit. the gold plating only makes it more obvious.

>>59563690
That's a weird DW.

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What is this thing?

>>59568043
Seiko sportura 9T82.

>>59568043
That's Jay Leno.

>>59568058
wtf, I hate seiko now.

>>59561300

Nursebro here, I've seen doctors wearing snk809s, casios all the way up to eplorer ii's

Talking down on rolex as if this makes you some how a horological genius makes you sound like a the low class retard.

Enjoy your 500k of debt and paying it off until your 50. Also have fun with the 16 hour shifts and 40k salary while the attending golfs.

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My father had this ZODIAC DRAGON WING

Seems really cool gorgeous design and good mechanism should i keep it

or go for another watch for example tissot chronograph or a citizen eco-drive chronograph i would prefer suggestions for chronographs

What are some good Russian watches and where would be a good place to order one?

>>59568377
Lurk the threads for a while. Modern Zodiac isn't worth anything like its vintages are, and it's quite gaudy like most other mall-tier watches. Tissot isn't particularly great either overall. Citizen is fine if you just want a nice watch that works and not much else but in that case just stick with what you have if you like it.

>>59568529
I see i appreciate the help i like the dragon wing a lot but i would like to by a chronograph that i will choose my self of and course keeping the zodiac for my self eh might hand it over to my father

>>59568529 Might you have any suggestions for chronographs only? Appreciate it

Gaiz, watch repair anon here. Steel screwdown caseback rusted shut, WD40 yes or no? I'm not worried about the seals, they're likely aged and brittle anyway.

Normally you aren't allowed to use WD40 on any watch or clock, but for loosening the rust on the case it can't hurt right?

>>59568953
Nvm, got it to move with a Jaxa wrench and a lot of elbow grease.

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>>59568953
Imagine trying to get this worn to shit off... WD40 did help.

>>59556261
Checks out >>59568377

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>>59569020
Christ, maybe this is why the Swiss don't do caseback rings anymore. Once the notches are worn there's no way to get a grip on that shit.

But yeah, mine is a 2209 Amphibia. Original owner must have took it for a swim in saltwater and didn't rinse it. Nothing horrible though, just a bunch of rust pits here and there.

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Anyone have suggestions for some quality chronographs anything you think looks modern and cool looking tkse the pic as an example

>>59569111
What a well fitting and totally not oversized watch

>>59569111
If by "cook looking" you mean "overly busy dogshit" then tag heuer is right up your alley.

>>59556261
Youngsters wear muh minimalism watches like DW, Bauhaus-style or similar. Dads go for more baroque shit. Grandpas are based with their vintage three handers and modern, but conservative-style Japanese quartz watches

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>>59569124 is 42mm considered oversized? What would you suggest then for a chronograph you people just judge and dont give suggestions...

>>59569256
It's oversized on that persons wrist above, but not on the one you just posted.

>>59569111
>>59569256
I like this watch but I would never pay as much money as they're asking for a non mecaquartz chronograph.

Are there any companies like Seiko that sell watches around the $100-$400 mark that are actually good?

I'm starting to realise I only ever look at seiko watches.

>>59569062
Always funny seeing these shitty watches advertise "stainless steel back", never mind anything important like the case, bezel, crown, or caseback screw ring. Rings are fine, just don't make them out out of soft ass brass. However, I've never seen one as bad as mine was. Single-piece backs are probably just an excuse for servicers to charge exuberant prices to also replace shitty sheared gaskets and water tests when performing routine battery changes.

>>59569424
There's Orient

>>59569429
"Stainless steel back" is mostly a vestigial remnant from the time most casebacks were nickel (like 80-90 years ago). It mostly survived because of hypochondriac normies' fear of metal allergy (when in reality they get irritated skin from the watch being fucking filthy), that's bordering on hysteria. Sometimes people refuse to buy all stainless steel (ie perfectly safe) watches because of muh metal allergy.

>>59569518
So Seiko?

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>>59557214
You know that feeling when you tell people you want to buy a grand seiko, but they tell you to invest in a watch from a better brand instead, like Oris. Or they tell you to get a seagull instead, cause its also an asian brand and its much cheaper, and has day-date-month and moonphase instead of just a datewheel.

>>59569666
I know I know, satan...

>>59569534
If someone fears nickel but not stainless steel they're retarded because stainless steel contains nickel.

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>>59558577
Thanks for feedback m8
Not my wrist but here's me wearing an orient ray ii..

But I'm thinking without the bezel a 42.2mm railmaster will wear quite large

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>New to watches

Thinking of getting this one
Thoughts /fa/ and /wt/ wise?

People which brand would you suggest for a good chronograph
Any suggestion taken into account

>>59570052
Hey, we'd love you to ask us over on /fa/

Also, please stay there! :)

>>59570052
TICK

Why did you guys tell me /r/watches is shit? This is legitimately hilarious,

http://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

>>59570182
Even a broken watch is right twice a day m8 :^)

>>59570182
Because they don't realize that they fall for the "Swiss Made(TM)" equivalent of the exact same scam and then post that shit like they aren't just as gullible.

>>59569608
No, they're not part of Seiko Watch and they don't have common parts or movements with Seiko watches.

>>59570452
Seiko bought them

>>59570455
No shit. Next you're going to tell me Epson printers are Seiko watches

>>59570512
They're literally the same ... What is your point?

>>59570455
Orient is completely independent of Seiko design-wise. It's only that Don Seiko gets a taste from what Orient makes.

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>>59570182
>>59570194
>The blue face really looks good and being a small fan of the Little Prince, I think this is a perfect fit.

>>59570628
Aw cute, that little boy is wearing his dads watch!

>>59570628
>Not even a BP, just a chrono
is that a wristlet or a kid?

>>59570527
They're totally independant.

What is objectively the best mass produced chronograph movement?

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fug

>>59571332
Whatever is in the seagull 1963

>>59571350
Isn't that was the bald fucker wears?

>>59571459
Captain Picard? Yep

>>59571451
ST19

>>59561300
If you think Rolex is for retards, get an Apple watch.

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>>59571350
Can't even see the blue

>>59571332
Ever? Or in current production? In current production you are basically choosing between the SeaGull ST19, Seiko 8rXX, Breitling B01, Omega 1861, Rolex 4130 and Zenith El Primero (I didn't include the Valjoux 7750 because it's shit).

Am I missing any currently series produced chronograph movements?

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>>59570052
It's great

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Need some advice. Going to wedding in 6 months and don't know what to wear. I have a rose gold and black orient esteem, sinn 556i, seagull1963, and a casio. What should i wear to the wedding? If you think i should buy one budget is $1000. Pic related is outfit.

>>59571332
Lemania 5100? It looks like shit but it was considered a serious military/aviation/racing-grade movement.

>>59571884
I was more talking from a standpoint of "best movement to buy today".
Sure it was the best back then but
>plastic parts
>impossible to get parts nowadays

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Just to piss /wt/ off, here's my Jacques Lemans quartz shitter once again

>>59571882
Assuming you have black shoes with that black belt, just wear anything with a black leather band

>>59571882
doesn't matter because no one actually cares what watch you wear

Where should I buy used Omega online? Are there people who service them before selling?

>>59572000
I always service your mom before selling her

>>59571734
>Am I missing any currently series produced chronograph movements?
F Piguet 1185

>>59571912

How big is that Jack Lemon shitter?

>>59572009

She's been dead for 20 year so I doubt it

>>59571906
>he thinks plastic parts are a negative
At a lot of places (mostly stuff on the bottom plate, like date complication, quickset, etc) they're literally better than metal.

>>59571906
Ironically it's not the plastic parts you have to worry about on a Lemania 5100. The real weak point is the chrono reset spring. I had to have it replaced last service and already bought an extra spring for the future if I need to eventually replace it again.

>>59572052
>implying they didn't just put them in to cut costs and be trendy with plastic becoming the new "high tech" material
inb4 muh shock resistance
I'd be scared to death of something like cracked date wheel support if I ever owned one of these.

>>59572272
I have one if you need it. I'll have to ship out of Toronto tho

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>>59571350
>Eaten numerals

>>59572309
Fair point if you weren't wrong.

>>59572012
Good point. Totally forgot about that one.

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>>59571912
>What date is it?
>25th
>but what day though?
>10ATM
What kind of shitter has a fake day complication?!

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>>59572317
I have an extra already, purchased to future proof against possible future parts unavailability. Also, like 3/4 of /wt/ posters live in Southern Ontario within driving distance of each other (myself included) so I'd be able to pick it up locally if I needed it.

>>59572319
Why? Are you implying IWC should have designed the watch or movement such that it wouldn't be necessary to have cut off numbers? You can't expect that in a $10,000 watch!

>>59572398

The things costumers ask these days!

>>59572343
Come on, Anon.
It's a cool movement, I'm not denying that.
But the watchmakers I talk to definitely have a split opinion on it regarding servicing costs and plastic parts.

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>>59572398

>>59572431
It's not cheap to service but I've heard no common issues with the plastic parts. I've owned mine for 10+ years, had it serviced twice, and as far as I know the main issue is the metal chrono reset spring and the movement is otherwise renowned for its reliability.

>>59563051
The first time I ever heard of Patek Philippe was when the brand was mentioned on an episode of House.

>>59572713
They don't need to market themselves as hard as Rolex or Omega. They have limited production numbers and a limited customer base.

looking to get my first penis seiko, but the listing I'm looking at doesn't come with a metal wristband. Where can I find good silver metal wristbands for 20-30$?

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Anyone know of a similar design with teal/seafoam green accents?

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>reks an Air-King he didn't even pay for yet
>-$5000
>financial ruin, wife probably chewed him out harder than a North Korean drill sergeant
>he now reviews a Komandirskie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qcdkl_Ap7E

KEKEKEKEKEKE

>>59571882
orient

>>59572828
Nomos must have something similar. I think the Metro has light blue, but there are other colours as well on it.

>>59573140
>~4000$ freedom bucks
might as well buy a fucking engagement ring desu, anything more in the 400$ range?

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>>59572828
Fake licensed retro brand bullshit needs to stop.

Junkers is my waifu.

>>59572777

You can't get a good metal bracelet for $20-30.

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>oh neat I always wanted to pick up a Seiko diver I heard they were a great value
>$1100

FUCK YOU SEIKO FUCK YOU RIGHT IN THE ASS

also FUCK NOMOS for charging $4000 for their shit now. no name bauhaus wankers what the fuck. I hope their buyers rightfully leave and let them die.

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I'm a NEET with some spare cash should I get a sub? Maybe having a Rolex would motivate me to do better.

>>59573591
Here are the simple facts: Nomos are literally the first new company to develop the capacity to design and manufacture mechanical movements including escapements on a series production basis since the 1960s. They join Vostok, Orient, Citizen, Seiko, ETA and Rolex as the only non haute horlogerie companies capable of this.

Developing this capability took a several year and ~12 million Euro investment in escapements and a further ~2 million Euro investment in designing the ultra-thin DUW 3001 calibre. These are enormous investments from a company with an annual sales volume of 10,000 - 20,000 units, and as a result must necessarily be reflected in increased unit prices.

In an affordable luxury watch market heavily dominated by Chinese-cased ETA-powered marketing-driven shitters, any watchmaker that makes the investments required to become a manufacture and actually increase the technical diversity of series produced mechanical movements should be applauded no matter whether you like the aesthetics of their product line. To the extent that Nomos succeeds by following this path, it may serve to encourage more investment in the technical aspects of watchmaking by other companies rather than just investing in more value engineering (i.e. cost-cutting) and more advertising.

Just in the last 10 years we have gone from a $1,000-$4,000 market where every single watch was powered by an ETA movement to one where you can now choose between ETA, Tudor, Nomos, and Seiko (8rXXs, 8LXXs). How can this development be regarded as bad for people interested in horology, regardless of whether you would personally buy any of those watches yourself? If only Miyota and Seiko would add micro-adjuster models to their ebauche offerings and Tudor would begin to use their in-house movement in more models, we could return to an era of real competition in movements in production watches not seen since the glory days of the 1970s.

>>59573749

They should start selling their movements to someone who will design something attractive to put them in.

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>>59573715
>Maybe having a Rolex would motivate me to do better.

>>59573749
I don't care

some newcomer with blandest nazi-era designs shouldn't be charging Rolex prices. they got popular for being a good value and now they think they're haute horology despite showing up barely a decade ago? I hope they tank for their hubris. their quirky watches were maybe appealing at $1000 not fucking 4 kilobucks

>>59573715

If you want to start working, you should invest in tools and/or training instead of buying a high-end watch. Maybe you want to work as a diver; if so, then you should choose a more modest dive watch to leave more for your other diving equipment.

If you don't want to start working, you should save your money and make some low-risk investments with it.

I don't see a reasonable scenario where someone without economically meaningful income should buy a Rolex.

>>59573258
It's 2400€ though

>>59573591
That diver is a great value.
Nomos watches start at 1000€.

>>59573787
>blandest nazi-era designs

They are Weimar-era designs, the antithesis of Nazi-era design.

>>59573838
heck no its not. it's finished about just as good as a seiko monster or the $400 limited edition turtles/samurai

I would price it at $600 tops

>>59573715
Get a nice watch when you get your first paycheck.

>>59573877
not the same guy, but I have some money set aside in a mutual fund which I intend to dip into for a watch once I graduate college and get a reasonable job

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What are some good mechanical watches like the lord marvel (dressy, no date window, manual wind) but that doesn't cost that much?

>>59573838
is 8R45 or whatever it is a new movement or is it that one thats above 4R35?

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>>59573787
>A company with a unit volume of 10,000-20,000 units per year invests 12 million Euros into developing the capacity to produce their own escapements
>Plus millions more designing new movement
Gee I wonder why their prices went up? It really sets the noggin joggin.

>>59573961
>mutual fund which I intend to dip into for a watch
Don't do that, numbnuts

>>59573967
barely anyone makes a handwind only dresswatch with no date affordably these days.

Seiko and Orient throw a fucking date aperture on anything because their movements have datewheels and it would cost more to change the production or take it off.

>>59574017
its my money, I'll burn it if I want

>>59573982
8R is the triple vertical clutch chronographs

8L is the base that doesn't get the full Grand Seiko treatment of the 9S.

>>59573749
I hope you've got this saved somewhere so you're not typing it out every other thread

>>59573258
>engagement ring
at least a watch pretends to hold value. Diamonds are literally throwing away money.

>>59573961
Don't get the most expensive watch you can. Get a nice-ish watch that leaves you with most of the money.

>>59574062
Yeah, I have it saved so I don't have to explain it every time some clueless horological pleb starts badmouthing one of the only production watchmakers even TRYING to innovate anymore.

>>59574045
thank, you I knew I didn't get the numbers exactly right

>>59574107
You should start doing like ninegag and not spoonfeed horology to shitheads.

>>59574098
thats what I intend, if I want to spend 5k or more I will probably only take a portion from the fund and save for the rest

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>I want the silliest mechanical watch imaginable
>say no more pham

>>59574146
Sounds like you know what you're doing.
Do you have an idea of the watch you would get?

>>59574279
Hey it's that Tissot chronograph

>>59573816
Rolex is entry level, still maybe I can buy it as a reward for starting school or something. After all the first step is the hardest.

>>59573715
Maybe you should actually achieve something in your life before spending daddy's cash on a Rolex.

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>>59574316
>chronograph
You were close!

>>59574378
Oops. Anyway, clearly the same watch.

>>59574045
fuck off ninefag

>>59574372
He died from opiates from alcohol damage I didn't get money but I do have his extensive gun collection.

>>59573591
I'm still pissed about this. someone agree with me.

62mas reissue asking nearly $4k as well is also complete faggotry. Didn't the original go for $200 or something.

fucking greedy faggots

>>59574528
The 62mas reissue is using an undecorated GS movement at least.

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Is the Seiko sna411 an Urban Gentry meme or an actually good watch?

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>>59574566

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Yay or nay?

>>59574566

I like it. Absolutely awful that it's 21mm lugwidth however.

>>59574566
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>>59574648
Presage is A#1

Are there any other movements that do what the Glashütte 58-01 does?
>stops the seconds hand when you pull out the crown
>resets seconds to 0
>minute hand moves to the next full minute
>turning the crown makes the minute hand jump from one full minute to the next
I'm not someone who drools over Grande Complications but this is fucking neat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4EXOlmCMyA

>>59570182

>>59574774
I think I told you last time you posted about this, theres an Fp journe with a double balance wheel that does a reset on the seconds hands.
That GO is neat though

>>59574774

Holy shit that's awesome.

>look it up

30k god damn.

>>59574288
On the upper end (for my first watch) I am interested in a Datejust or JLC master control as an everyday watch suitable for dress or work.

for a bit less money I like the Sinn 104 or speedmaster reduced.

>>59574774
unique complications? unique complications.

I actually love the idea of this true seconds mechanical. I don't care if the snobs whine about "it looks like a quartz reeeeee"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17fOFcGrb7A

>>59573414
wait is it really? good to know anon, thanks

>>59574991
JLC is calling it "true seconds" for their watch, but if you're interested in finding other watches with the same complication it's called deadbeat seconds.

>>59573523
whats the minimum I need to spend?

>>59575038

At least double that, but tell us which Seiko 5 first.

>>59575059
Its a 8000series 18mm penis seiko

>>59574934
One day, Anon...
>>59574883
Can you post the ref. number? Can't find it.
>>59574991
Cool.
The world time thing where you can set the hours without moving the minutes would irritate my autism though. Couldn't handle having slightly offset minutes and hours.

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>>59575072
like this, haven't purchased it yet, just need to figure out the total cost including a bracelet

Are there more watches like the Omega Chronostop that have a single seconds hand (no sub dials) but can be used as a stop watch?

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>>59575090

Well first I'm going for the PP 5170G

>>59575136
Yes

>>59570182
>(((Bergman&Stein)))

>>59575295
p-please post them

>>59574774
The reset part I'm sure I have seen elsewhere. It may have been on a Lange tourbillon.

>>59574991
>I don't care if the snobs whine about "it looks like a quartz reeeeee"
Nobody has ever said that.

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ayy ayy lmao

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>>59575379

Fine.

>>59575415
>>59575379

sorry. Didnt see no sub-dials.

>>59575136
There are some with a center minute and second chrono hands, no subdials.

>>59575090
Its the chronometre resonance

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>>59575136
No idea, have a pic of my chronostop

>>59575507
Give it to me.

>>59575465
Man that's so cool.
>>59575507
Jelly as fuck, Anon.
>>59575431
>>59575431
>>59575442
So is this just a useless thing to have or is there an untapped market for this kind of movement?

>>59575403
some do.

I found one:
Seiko 5719
Too bad it's super rare.

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>>59575559
>>59575603
I actually am gonna sell it sometime soon senpai. I wanna service it first though, might be a while.

>>59575603
It's really not useful, that's the problem. A chrono that counts only to 60 seconds has very limited use.
A chrono with a single subdial (minute register), or two central chrono hands (seconds and minutes) is much better.
But I do love a chrono with no running seconds.

>>59575725
>servicing a rare vintage chronograph
Sounds expensive.