/hpg/ - Headphone General

I suggest we don't include that under $50 "rule" there. It serves no purpose.

>>59555009
Pretty tempted to buy this Homu to be honest

>tfw busting out my lambda signature after daily driving HD800S since launch
Absolutely kino.

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Holy shit these H6s are fucking brilliant
Less than 24 hours in and I am really coming into the sound.

Drive them straight from my Xiaomi chinkshit and the volume is perfect.

Warm natural sound, bass when you need it, trebles not harsh at all. I'm throwing every genre I've got at it.

Listening to Duke Ellington - Avalon, wewww

>inb4 b&o shill
If you're looking for a good commuter pair, definitely grab a pair. 2nd gen though ignore first gen unless you've got more than a phone to drive them

>>59553038
Not right unless you run into thermal or excursion limits. Thermal limit burns the voice coil and excursion limit causes mechanical wear. Wherever these limits lie aren't tied to a specific loudness. Drivers are vastly different from one another. Generally speaking you will harm your ears far sooner than the headphones and it's not guaranteed that your amplifier is even capable of driving the headphones to such limits.

>>59550414
Entirely dependent on the in-ears. Bass level is an indication if they sit well.

>>59547439
>newfag
Oh boy. Been a while. Thanks?

Now get your ass back to school and refrain from posting until you understand some basics of headphones and their market. Price is irrelevant past the absolutely bottom of the barrel options where you truly are limited by manufacturing costs. At $50 we are long past that point.

>>59547583
QC is cheap. Tuning isn't done in production.
>will sound like shit
That's subjective, not a matter of your preference when someone else is asking for help and sound isn't the only criteria when choosing a headphone.
>arguing
We are talking about giving a suggestion. Where is the argument?

And even in the hypothetical world where they all "sounded like shit", so what? What's that got to do with our ability to give a suggestion?

>>59555495
Don't bring arguments into a new thread pls

>>59555009
Who else full 2 here? Got mine and I swear the bass and overall tone is slightly smoother and less harsh sounding than my e10k and o2. Though it could be placebo. Can anyone else hear a difference with it? It's a sexy little amp either way.

Give me a reason not to buy a pair of HD 600.

Snapheisers are not a valid argument.

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>>59556736
>valid arguments aren't valid

I bought a Logitech G35 headset about a year ago. After about four months of use, the thin faux leather that covers the foam on the earcups started to disintegrate. It was actually crumbling away. For example - I'd wear the headset for only an hour or two before bedtime and put the headset down on my desk. I'd come back to the pc the next morning. On the desk below the earcups, there would be tiny pieces about the size of an oatmeal flake of black leathery plastic that fell from the earcup. I go to work and come home in the evening and even more black stuff on my desk below the earcups.

It's about a year now. Almost all of the black faux leather has fallen off the earcups. Is that normal? It can't be normal. Is it my skin? Do I have a fungus or bacteria on my face that transferred to the earcups that eats faux leather? Or does Logitech make junk now?

>>59553458
Different folk for different folks, anon. You have yours, I have mine.
>>59554545
>HD 598 Cs
>Neutral
>>59556736
No bass, that clamp, and worse than chink shit plastic.

>>59556912
Standard Logitech build quality; nothing to worry.

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>>59555009
>>59555248
>under $50
Bad idea.
We do need to update the old guides. The in-ears list is very dated, the 200+ infographic needs rework.
Where is the fix to new draft infographic?
The old one, for reference.
The typo regarding greater/less than is already known.

>>59557015
>LCD-2 doesn't need amp

Really?

>>59556736
There's no reason.
Clamp? Search yt for "HD 6XX PSA." Thank me later.
No bass? Buy a closed pair. You can also eq them to sound more like the 650s.
Only reason would be that you don't want to spend money in an amp. Still, fiio e10k will do.

>>59555009
Does anybody have entry level custom IEMs ($400-$700 I guess) they recommend?

I don't need like two dozen drivers in each ear, just like maybe two.

>>59557083
>Buy a closed pair.
Closed HD 600s?

AKG K612 or SAMSON SR850 which one is better?

>>59557395
probably the k612 because it costs 4 times as much, if you think it's worth it.

>>59556736
Because you already have one, shill.

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>>59557523
>k612 because it costs 4 times as much
not an argument

>>59556736
You can easily bend the headband by the METAL to fix the clamp and I've used an eq for the bass. They're the best headphones I've ever tried. Period.

Is it normal that my foam tips only last for about 1 month before they break?

is the hd598 worth the additional money or should i just get a hd558?

1. For all purpose (movies, music, PC/PS4 gaming) is it better to buy an IEM or headphone? £100-ish budget.
2. Are those what hi-fi reviews/product of the year list actually good or just shit?

>>59557015
>bad idea
What do you mean? We certainly don't need infographs for under $50 options but to outclude discussion or recommendations for them entirely make sense to me. Was there ever a problem?

>>59557061
Yes, especially post Fazor.

>>59557728
help plz

>>59558444
HD 558s are $80 USD right now. Wouldn't recommend HD 598s for twice the price of those.

>>59558506
where? i'm from canada

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Neutrality is overrated. Ear rape treble is where its at.

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>>59557395
K612 if you want neutral and have the budget for an amp. SR850 if you want a bright phone with a big midbass hump though that can be EQ's down like pic related. 668B's and SR850's have the same drivers if you need a graph for reference.

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>>59558592
Looks like Koss PortaPros.

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>>59558666
Yeah as soon as I posted it it suddenly came back to me, which is why I deleted the post.

Thank you very much Anon, I remember it being very comfy so I wanted to buy it again to enjoy the new Zelda on my Switch.

>>59558566
>Canada
Oh. Well, may as well go for the HD 598 SEs instead then; they're only slightly more expensive than what an HD 558 would sell for there.

HD 598:
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0126HISOO/?tag=pcp0f-20

HD 558:
https://www.amazon.ca/Sennheiser-HD-558-Headphones/dp/B004FEEY9A/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1490380328&sr=1-1&keywords=hd+558

>>59558713
my brother lives in us so maybe he can get them for me and send them or would that be just as expensive ?

Is HD6XX really just a cheaper HD650 or is it a scam?

>>59558745
It's a cheaper 650 with even chinkier plastic.
Snappety snap!

>>59558690
If you don't want to pay the somewhat shitty premium for PortaPros, you can get KCS75's which are the same drivers on a clip-on hook or SportaPros which also the same except they're not as compact as PortaPros.

>>59558807
I'm not a fan of clip-on hook sadly, they tend to irritate my ears after a while.

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>>59555009

I have pic related. No bully pls

>>59558739
Not sure, but here is the link to amazon.com link to HD 558s and HD 598s.

HD 558:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sennheiser-audiophile-over-the-ear-headphones-titan/1700513.p?skuId=1700513&ref=199&loc=8BacdVP0GFs&acampID=1&siteID=8BacdVP0GFs-J9K1Z2xVW13t9TYpP66RIA

HD 598:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0126HISOO/?tag=pcpapi-20

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>>59555009
I'm having a problem ever since I got my Fulla 2 and HD600. For some reason my sound would randomly cut out on everything and then any videos or music that's playing would just freeze at the same time. This never used to happen with my old headphones and no amp. Even now I have no sound and don't know when the sound will come back (it just comes randomly).

Is my amp using too much energy or something?

>>59558745
No. They're essentially shittier HD 650s made with shittier materials.

>>59558939
Have you tried your Fulla 2 with a different headphone? Or your HD 600 without your Fulla 2?

>>59558939
Also disabling and re-enabling the Fulla Schiit audio driver seems to fix it, but it acts up again still.

>>59559002
Think I figured it out. The USB that came with the amp doesn't fit so snugly in my motherboard slot, so it keeps getting disconnected. I'll just use a different one.

>>59559002
>They're essentially shittier HD 650s made with shittier materials.
[citation needed]

>>59559550
>Being unable to compare both

They are poorfag HD 650s, anon. Meant to milk those sweet, sweet poorfag Massdrop dollars.

>>59560032
I have, they measured within margin of error/inherent differences in production drivers, they are built identically as well. The only differences are the cable and paint finish.

I'd like to know where you've pulled that out of your ass because I even compared the dates and serial numbers on the drivers themselves.

>>59555009
Why is it always anime girls wearing headphones for these generals? Also is there a real market for this stuff? There seem to be an infinite amount of them in supply, for just about every brand and model you can think of.

What's the deal? It annoys me. You're all annoying.

>>59556151
Just got my fulla2, which I tested at work with HD380 Pro. Very good.

At home now, testing them with HD600 (vs schiit uber stack). Only an hour or so testing. So far, I can say it doesn't sound bad vs stack (feels somewhat odd though... not sure how much is psychological), but the gain seems insufficient. It's loud plenty enough for most uses, but I can see myself wanting more gain.

I'll try them with my HD598 at some point later, but I already know it sounds really good with those. I got the schiit stack after trying a loaned Fulla 2 after all.

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Take artsy / nice photos of your headphones and post them, /g/

>>59560125
A lot of the products from Massdrop are either b-stock or "special edition" cost-cutting products meant to grab more money from the Massdrop audience. They're $200, anon; there's no reason not to think otherwise. Take a look at the HD 6XXs, they look like they have a shittier molding job than the HD 650s.

>>59560381
Just because you repeat yourself doesn't mean you're any less wrong.

>>59560429
>HD 650 poorfag edition owner
>Believing there's no cost-cutting from his $100 cheaper product

Well did you, anon?

>>59560381
>Take a look at the HD 6XXs, they look like they have a shittier molding job than the HD 650s.
So you've never actually compared them in person, opinion discarded.

>>59560467
Sound quality is about equal; just shittier plastic. Is it wrong to say that?

>>59560466
I used to have more expensive headphones than you'll ever be able to afford, cost means nothing.

You can make things up all you want since you know nothing about Sennheiser's manufacturing process or what they did with the HD6XX, but you're really just embarassing yourself with the 'hurr poorfag' shit.

Hell, when I went to the authorized Sennheiser repair shop nearby they said they just replace HD6XX with HD650 under warranty because they were a one-off and they are the same product.

>>59560484
The paint is different, the plastic itself is identical.

>>59560493
Now you're just projecting.

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>>59560513
You need to learn what that means before parroting it because some other anon said that to you before.

Yo is there a iem/earbud guide? Been looking to buy some just to wear on the train

>Inb4 buy headphones
I want to look normie

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Not headphone related, but you chaps seem to have fine tastes.

Any of you out there recommend a wallet of any sort?

>>59560534
>cost means nothing
Alright anon, you have me. Now, why did you buy shittier HD 650s when you could have bought HD 650s themselves?

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>>59560606
>shittier
You keep saying this but it doesn't mean anything when you can't even validate your claim.
>why did you
Because they look better to me, the gloss looks crap on the 650 and makes them look cheap.

Gloss never looks good.

>>59560636
>Buying headphones for their looks
Why? Are you taking them outside? Also, are you saying you only have the HD 6XXs?

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>>59560723
>looks better and costs less
No brainer.
>Also, are you saying you only have the HD 6XXs?
I've sold everything else off now. Speakers are better anyawy.

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>mention Sennheiser
>thread goes to shit

why does it have to be like this guys

>>59560984
Because shills and anti-shills fill the thread with shitposts.
>Snapheiser
>Veilheiser
>Boring no bass
>Granite kitchentop lookin ass
And such shit above

>>59560984
Pretty controversial topic right now, with all that shilling and such.

>>59548463
>>59548523

>HD 600s
>In-ear
>Closed-back

Well I got my pair of 558's under $50 and they've served me well a long time.

None of you faggots can tell me otherwise.

>>59561147
You did good, anon

>>59561147
$50? Solid purchase, anon. They comfy.

Good thing they didn't snap after all this time, ayyy? eyyyy, anon?

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>>59560138
It scares me that there are people making shitty renders of pretend boxes with anime girls on them because nobody would actually ever create something like that.

"I like to imagine my favorite cartoons wearing my favorite headphones!"

>>59561054
>>Granite kitchentop lookin ass
That's a fun way to describe the HD600.

>>59560603
Only the finest taste, my friend.

https://www.net-a-porter.com/us/en/product/187523/christian_louboutin/paros-spiked-leather-wallet

>>59557212
I've ordered the Custom Art Ei.3's.
Seem pretty good for a triple-driver ciem with base price of 270 euro.

>>59561297
>>59561054
>'90s kitchen top design
Seems pretty normal for a two decade-old product. That also probably explains its build quality.

http://www.stereophile.com/headphones/408/#LtPAJ84XhwD2wKYi.97

>>59561073
Fuck off, anti-shill shitposter.

>>59560741
> I've sold everything else off now.

What did you have and what kind of speakers you have now? Also, don't you find that vocals on speakers sound a bit behind and not as forward as lets say on HD6XX? Thats my main bone with speakers.

>>59561393
We don't accept constant shilling. ;^)

little advice guys
looking for some audiophile headphones
budget: $150-$250
location: USA
source: pc
type: what are IEMs? I need the over ear full sized kind
comfort level: hmm, comfortable enough to fall asleep with while laying on a side
signature: v-shape
past headphones: dreadful bullshit

need to "experience" my music and stuff
know nothing bout this trade
prefer ones that come with a dac
thnx

>>59561421
>v-shape
DT 990s.

>>59561376
Interconnects: AudioQuest Opal, Kimber KCAG.

Found the bottleneck.

>>59561421
>type: what are IEMs?
In-ear monitors. Small earphones which sit partly or entirely inside your ear canal.

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well.. i am not rich and got a PortaPro never spent more than 30 bucks in headphones but today... i dont know why i spent 100 in Shure 215 because it looks awesome, and holy fuck what a awesome sound, i cant believe it.
when i was in the train i didnt listen even the fuckin normies talking. i've got some questions.

Should i buy an AMP?
I use my phone as player, keep using this or should i buy someting FiiO player to get better sound?

thanks

>>59561376
Speaking of which, does anyone know where one can buy HD 580 Jubilees? They are the ugliest "audiophile" headphones i've ever seen and I think I need a pair.

>>59561470
You should be fine on your phone since they're high sensitivity. If you're fine with spending the extra money for a DAP or an external DAC for your phone, go for it just don't go retarded and spend a fuckload of money on some snake oil like a Chord Mojo.

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>>59561262

>>59561449
thanx anon, looking good
any difference between the 770, pro, premium?
and these sony ones are just overpriced for the sake of the brand name, am I correct?
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR1ADAC-Premium-Amplifier-Integrated-Headphones/dp/B00O2CYJHW/ref=sr_1_14?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1490391213&sr=1-14&keywords=dac

>>59561463
>Small earphones which sit partly or entirely inside your ear canal.
the kind where one of them shuts off after a couple uses. Yea, definitely not what I'm looking for.

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>>59561262
Right?

Should I get ath m40x as my first pair of headphones?
buying from a physical store and theres nothing else beside that and 50x
will it change my experience of music/movies/games? Are headphones really worth it?

>>59561421
>comfort level: hmm, comfortable enough to fall asleep with while laying on a side.

Why would you do this with $200 headphones?

>>59561583
This sums it up pretty nicely:
https://homestudiobasics.com/beyerdynamic-dt-990-pro-vs-premium-end-all-confusion/

DT 770s are basically just less v-shaped DT 990s, sound quality wise.

>>59561643
They lack soundstage, so that might be something to consider.

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>>59561262
http://onkyodirect.jp/NEWGAME_EARPHONE.html
http://www.iriver.jp/products/product_129.php

Be sure to check these out before dropping your money on pic related.

>>59561709
idek what soundstage is

>>59561731
Something you don't think about when purchasing headphones. If you worry about it, you equalize, but that's another topic.

>>59561762
then why mention it?
or are u not the same guy?

>>59561731
Where you can pinpoint sound and shit like that. Only really useful for gaming.

>>59561643
Do you use apple iems and laptop speakers currently? If so, yes headphones are worth it.

If you have a good speaker setup then it is less important.

You'd probably like the M50x as a first pair more than the m40x, the 50x are just slightly more colored (more bass) and that is something new comers appreciate I think. That said, look into open-back headphones, my go to recommendation are the HD558, reason these may not be viable to you is they leak sound due to being open, but they sound better and you can wear them all day without any discomfort. M50s are good but not very comfortable at all.

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http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StaxVintageMeasurements.pdf

>all those shitty vintage headphones getting exposed
Today was a good day.

>>59561779
Not the same guy, sorry. i was just chiming in. Too much bullshit about headphones and what people imagine soundstage being. Just ignore it, it's not meaningful.

>>59561783
How could the headphones possibly correct for sound localization?

>>59561762
>equalizing soundstage

>>59561832
More here:

https://www.inexxon.com/stax-modelle/stax-kopfh%C3%B6rer/

>>59561837
Indeed.

>>59561650
I can't fall asleep without watching/listening to something

>>59561709
thanx for that

anything wrong with the sony ones?
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR1ADAC-Premium-Amplifier-Integrated-Headphones/dp/B00O2CYJHW/ref=sr_1_14?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1490391213&sr=1-14&keywords=dac

Fuck it guys, I'm buying the X2. I don't see why I have to pay 50% more for a HD 600 + Fulla 2 for marginally better sound.

>>59561853
Are you even able to equalize soundstage?

>>59561875
If you want bass, go for it. The HD 600 barely has any.

So, after a month of HD600, I'm finally trying my HD598 again.

And, found something amusing. This video does funky shit with the mastering:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKgIV2mZeOI

The switches it does sound super sharp and the differently mastered segments sound radically different on the HD600. On the HD598, however, the transitions feel soft and the sections do not sound anywhere as distinct. I used to think HD598 were pretty neutral, but they're colored AF when compared to HD600.

I still love the HD598 and how they provide a taste of what good sound is like. Quite the gateway drug, and comfortable AF (they still feel so much better than the HD600 on my head...)

>>59561262
pretty much everything in your reality is imagined by humans. the line between imagination and reality is thin

>>59561894
I want a little bit of kick in the low end, but not too much that it ruins everything else.

I'm fine buying the X2's right? Is there anything else that I should consider?

>>59561875
So get HD598se and Fulla 2.

>>59561894
Yes, all the little bit which headphone themselves can alter it in the first place: magnitude response. You'll sacrifice it for response accuracy.

>>59561894
>If you want bass, go for it. The HD 600 barely has any.
WTF. My HD600 have plenty of bass.

>>59561872
No experience with those, but it's generally Beyerdynamics for v-shaped headphones, and maybe Fidelio X2s if you want more bass than treble.
>>59561923
No bass
>>59561921
DT 880s are more neutral than those while still providing plenty of bass
>>59561937
Not with that bass roll off, they aren't. You've gotten used to them, anon.

>>59561905
I don't have the HD600 to compare and contrast on, but the switches in sounds were pretty fucking distinct and obvious on my HD558s

>>59561959
Was looking at the 880s, do they require any extra amplification?

>>59561971
They are still distinct and obvious in HD598.

But it's just in HD600 they're WAY more distinct and obvious.

Looking for a pair of cheap(ish) headphones, not too bulky, something I can wear at the gym. any recommendations?

>>59560148
Interesting. I've only owned the e10k and odac combo before the fulla 2. Both of those sounded EXACTLY the same to me but from a quick test the fulla 2 seems like it sounds a little bit different but with better bass. I need to test and compare stuff properly tomorrow.

>>59561959
>Fidelio X2s
somehow these look real inviting
good looking out

>>59562024
Honest opinion after a load of more testing. (been at it since then).

HD600 seem to sound better on my schiit uber stack than the fulla2.

HD598 seem to sound better on the fulla2.

WTF? -_-

>>59562003
>But it's just in HD600 they're WAY more distinct and obvious.

That's because they're better. Bend the metal band bit by bit if the clamp is a problem for you. It lterally takes 10 seconds to feel it working. Do it three or four more times and they're on of the most comfortable headphones available.

>>59558690
Sorry for the completely off-topic question, but are you French or from France by any chance?

>>59562083
So why doesn't Sennheiser make them comfy OUT OF THE BOX?

They've been making the HD 600 for ages at this point

>>59562051
Argh that's weird. Im hoping to keep the fulla to use with my 600 as an end game. I'm not buying stupidly expensive amps anymore after trying out the odac.

>>59562083
I suspect they'll get better over time without me doing that. They're far better now than they were on the first week.

I'll try that only if it doesn't seem to work -_-

>>59562099
It's stupidly tight at first I know but they obviously think they require that much of a seal to get the best out of them? they don't.

Open the headphones to FULL size and take a hold of one of the sides, now bend it with a decent pressure and hold for 10 seconds. The metal is strong as fuck, you'd have to be a retard to break it. Use both index fingers and thumbs. You will get a feel for it and use more pressure after you've finished shitting yourself.

Don't do it too many times or you'll make them too loose, and you then you will ruin the seal.

>>59561978
Yes, but they do sell 32 Ohm versions.

https://www.amazon.ca/Beyerdynamic-880-Premium-32-Headphones/dp/B0024NK358

>>59562031
They are damn comfy and build quality is better compared to other headphones at its price range. They are really easy to run, and it has a surprising amount of bass for open-backed headphones. Compared to DT 990s, they have more bass but the bass from the 990s are crispier and more detailed. All up to preference, to be honest.

>>59562114
I stretched mine over loads of books at first and the differene it made was tiny. Look at a video or someone doing it, it's really fucking easy and you can have a perfect fitting headphone right this second. The bands are solid fucking metal. You're not going to break them. just keep your hands off the plastic headband when you do it obviously.

Aaarhhh, why I am so autistic, /g/? Whenever I look at X2 I get a feeling they are have poor build quality because of cable not being detachable. I'll be changing my current pair of headphones in a few months and Fidelio X2 are looking good.

>>59562174
Cable is detachable; just not its younger brother, the X1.

>>59561905
Wtf is this mastering how can anyone be that fucking retarded. HD600 with an amp were quite revealing to the point where I could pick up weird shit in songs.

>>59562031
The Fidelio X1 is more balanced than the X2, if that's something you want. Less bass and treble, but still bassy headphones nonetheless. Build quality is generally the same; it just doesn't come in back and doesn't have a detachable cable.

>>59562159
Any difference in sound quality between the 32 and 250 ohm versions? Also, how are the highs? Want to move away from the piercing treble that I had on my SR850's and I've read that Beyers can be considered to be fatiguing by some.

>>59562110
It doesn't sound outright bad with HD600. It's just not as good, feels off somehow.

Note the difference between both sources with HD598 isn't as pronounced. Both do sound good with that, but the Fulla 2 seems slightly better.

I'd say the major issue with HD600 and Fulla 2 is gain. It seems the Fulla 2 gain just doesn't cut it for the HD600. It even feels like it can't provide enough power (sound seems to change a little) with the volume past 3 o'clock (close to the maximum, 5 o'clock).

I feel I'm losing myself and going off the subjective far end... I used to be happy, and now every source I try sounds different, and I'm starting to think I might want to try a jotunheim or something crazy. Someone kill me. I've spent more than enough in audio this year... schiit uber stack, fulla2, HD600 all within 3 month. Insanity. I must resist until the next. I should probably get more headphones before I even think about getting more amps/dacs.

>>59561407
I had the HD 800 S and DT 880. I have borrowed friends headphones to compare before (600, 650, TH900) and right now I have the LSR 305.

No I don't feel like the vocals are behind, they are presented very well on these speakers and the imaging/soundstage is astonishing.

>Budget
~400$ - 350€
>Location
Portugal - For comparison https://www.kuantokusta.pt/
>Source
My samsung s7 and laptops mainly
>Type of headphone
Whatever is best
>Open or closed
I would like isolation, noise canceling
>Comfort level
Sometimes I wear glasses so I don't want the headphones to press my ears like I'm going to skydive. I want comfy headphones. But Sound Quality > Comfyness
>Sound signature
Skipping this one.
>Past headphones
Some 15$

--

I would like bluetooth option. Thinking about the BOSE QC35. What do you guys think?

I don't know much about this but since I'm willing to give that kind of money I would like the best for the price. Thanks for your help.

>>59555009
To any brazilian on the thread.

If you are thinking in buying Bombers HB02, dont. They will fuck with your ears.

>>59562174
They use a detachable cable with a 3.5mm connector.

>>59561832
LNS measure very well

>>59562223
>Wtf is this mastering how can anyone be that fucking retarded.
Those switches are definitely intentional. It does add to the "fucking wasted" feel of the song... the imagery also does strange shit.

It's not the only mastering available for the song. Probably ingame only. I have flacs of the song that don't do that.

>>59562241
You're probably over doing it m8. I've settled with the 600 and the e10k for over a year now. I wasn't expecting for the fulla 2 to actually sound better than the e10k but after a quick test it seems a bit better, but I can't tell yet. I like the look of it, the big volume knob and the extra features which will allow me to use my 600's with my ps4 etc. Amps and dacs to me seem like a fucking meme for the most part but I've never tried headphones that are 'better than the 600 or an amp+dac that costs more than the odac. Both of which are stupidly fucking expensive when you think about it.

>>59562327
>but after a quick test it seems a bit better, but I can't tell yet

By this I mean that I tried it quickly yesterday and haven't listened to anything since. I'm waiting until tomorrow so I can chill out properly and compare everything with a (((few))) drinks.

>>59562240
>How are the highs?
Look away now, anon. If you want v-shaped headphones without screeching highs, then just take a look at DT 880s or Fidelio X2/X1s.

>sound quality between 32 and 250 ohm versions?

The 250 Ohm version is better than the 32 Ohm version. The 32 Ohm is more for portable use; much looser than the 250 Ohm version.

>>59562327
>You're probably over doing it m8.
Yes I am. I should just enjoy what I have. I had been happy with HD598 for years with onboard (xtal audio 2 or whatever it's called). Then someone let me try a Fulla 2, effectively sending me into audio hell.

As if idol hell wasn't enough! I play fucking llsif _and_ deresute stamina-efficiently, ffs.

>>59562241
Isn't schiit stack enough? If something I would maybe invest into other headphone. However I got an element for 2 weeks and returned it, was really bothered by vocals and now I am thinking about trying Valhalla 2 to see if tube meme magic will do it for me.

>>59562240
>Any difference in sound quality between the 32 and 250 ohm versions?
No. One is more sensitive than the other.

>>59562410
Meme magic surely might.

>>59562385
Honestly stick with your 600 and whatever amp drives them best. If the magni or whatever it was you said sounds better than the fulla 2 then that's one hell of a set up. There are too many memes in this game, and you're bordering on stumbling upon them if you go past the gear you already own.

>>59562375
I think I'll go for the X2, the detachable cable swings it for me. Why does Beyer fucking insist on permanently attached cables

>>59562410
Just keep in mind tubes aren't durable... that's why I'm not even considering tubes.

>>59562299
Probably it's ps3/4 mastering which won't sound as off putting through speakers as through headphones.

>>59562245
I've been over my friends place for a week and he had JBL 230, those were awesome to blast something like metal or rock but I've felt something was missing in vocals even tho there was no problem with their quality. They were not as concentrated and close to me as on my HD600 and I felt that singer's voice is no longer screaming right into my ears. Maybe I got too used to headphones, soundstage was miles ahead tho.

>>59562516
Yeah, that annoys me too. Not even their $600 T 90 has a detachable cable.

>>59562450
Got Modi 2 and Magni 2, the uber versions.

Using spdif coax with computer, optical with ps3. USB free for messing around... currently plugged to some small ARM thing.

> There are too many memes in this game, and you're bordering on stumbling upon them if you go past the gear you already own.
Magical DACs like the sables and the multibit shit do suddenly seem appealing. So does the balanced nonsense.

Audio is fucking dangerous

>got a pair of M50x
>my first non gaming headphones
>regret it

I should have got a dt 770.

Cheer me up /hpg/

>>59561812
I use some desktop speakers (creative gigaworks t20 series II) and if im traveling the earbuds my phone came in(huawei mate 9)
I just want something to watch movies with on my laptop because the sound is shiet on it and maybe for traveling using my phone as source

>>59562641
The M50X has no soundstage. If it's not too late, you can always return or sell them.

>>59562641
>headphones for gaming
>home use
>gets closed

You deserve it.

>>59562159
the X2 definitely seem like what I've been looking for
going to look around some more before I commit
but I'm pretty much settled
think I'll enjoy my new toy w/o any regrets

>>59562236
saw those, prefer the X2

>>59562431
I want dat midrange and I want to hear how different it will be.

>>59562576
> Just keep in mind tubes aren't durable... that's why I'm not even considering tubes.
It's not like they break after couple of months, somewhere around 1,5-3 years depending on tube, but since I live in Russia tubes are quite easy and cheap to come by.

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>>59562690
Good luck, anon. Hope you find what you're looking for.

>>59562672
It is too late

>>59562683
Well I still have the gaming head set I use for gaming. My logic for buying them was I wanted something with detachable cords and I got closed because I travel a lot and wanted something I could listen to while on a flight or when I am a passenger in a car.

I fucked up though.

>>59562613
>Audio is fucking dangerous

It is, that's why I stopped at the e10k a year ago after buying and selling an odac that sounded exactly the same. I only bought the fulla 2 because it's relatively cheap and I'll sell my e10k to pay most of it off. I'd like ti try your setup for example but I imagine the difference wouldn't be worth paying for. Headphones are the most important thing by far and with the 600 I honestly can't see myself buying another pair again unless I had to. I almost never look at headphone stuff anymore but the fulla 2 has been mentioned here quite a lot recently and it looked worth a go for the money.

>>59562252
any help?

>>59562739
Here are some others you can look at:

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PXC-550-Wireless-Bluetooth/dp/B01E3XLNA0

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Cancelling-Bluetooth-Headphone-MDR1000X/dp/B01KHZ4ZYY

>>59562733
:(

>Budget
~$150-$250
>Location
Mexico
>Source
PC and walkman
>Type of headphone
Whatever is best
>Open or closed
both are good
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
I don't have a preference
>Past headphones
Sony h.ear

Best headphone for 300 or under?

I am about to pull the trigger on the X2 but want to get yalls opinion first.

Basically I listen to electronic music and orchestra as well as battle orchestra like epic trailer music.

Video games too.

Any opinions?

>>59563063
Any preferred sound signature? Fidelio X2s are nice choices if you want good, bassy headphones; nice soundstage for gaming too.

>>59563105
>Any preferred sound signature?
Balanced.

Are X2s pretty good for orchestra and piano?

Feel free to post an amazon affiliate code and I'll attach it.

>>59562734
(still me HD600 idol hell)

Have you idolfags seen masamune-kun no revenge ep12?

The characters voiced by shimamu (deresute) and umi (love live) sing a song in a duet.

Much fanservice for idol trash.

>>59562724
like your waifu and cans!

>>59563105
>Fidelio X2s are nice choices
They're never a good choice. Bassy headphones are fucking trash.

>>59563151
>Are X2s pretty good for orchestra and piano?
Fuck no. They have a boomy bass. That sounds like shit for anything other than hip-hop.

What you want is neutral sounding headphones.

>>59563151
Neutral is the word.

HD600 is the headphones.

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>>59563198
>Have you idolfags seen masamune-kun no revenge ep12?
just downloaded it. gonna watch it later. Quit spoiling it you autistic asshole!

>>59563151
>Balanced
Then don't consider them.

Try looking at AKG or Sennheiser headphones. HD 600s/650s or K701s/702s/Q701s should be a nice start.

>>59563210
>They're never a good choice
>>Fidelio X2s are nice choices
Now read the rest of the post, anon. Different folks prefer different sound signatures.

>not using Sony MDR V6 or MDR 7056

y'all have either way too much money or are just dumb

>>59563243
>just downloaded it. gonna watch it later.
Why delay? Go for it. Adagaki's extra adorable this ep.

Quit spoiling it you autistic asshole!
Adagaki aki just gave me an humiliating nickname... Autistic Asshole -_-

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>>59563247
>Now read the rest of the post, anon. Different folks prefer different sound signatures.
No they fucking don't. Study after study proves that people prefer neutral headphones: headphones that don't distort sound and reproduce it accurately.

It's like saying that some people prefer eyeglasses that distort images. It's retarded and retards like you who don't even own >$150 headphones should never give advice to others.

>>59563247
> Different folks prefer different sound signatures.
Neutral or go DIAF.

Everything else is a scam to fool people into buying shitty headphones after short testing at the shop.

>>59563279
>Why delay? Go for it. Adagaki's extra adorable this ep.
No time anon... no time. Some of us gotta work for a living.

>>59563272
I'm using them right now, they're really uncomfortable and they rattle. It's also my second pair, first pair broke after two years.

>>59563299
I don't watch anime at work... normally :P

Thankfully I make enough dough I can buy audio stuff with my disposable income.

>>59563284
>This meme again
When will this stop?

>>59563235
>>59563247

>HD600

What do I need to get decent sound out of them?

I was hoping my Behringer Q1202USB mixer would push some power but it does not I don't think.

>>59563314
2 years is odd, I still have a hand-me-down MDR 7056 when they made them in Japan (easily 15 years or more), only thing i did was change pads

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>>59562724
Good evening! Nice tastes you have. I like the font :o

Does anyone know if there is a store in the USA where I can go to try all of these crazy headphones?

>>59563151
Try AKG, like 712 for more balanced sound, they would still have a bass and a decent soundstange but without such mid suck off with X2. If you can go and audition them both in a store than do it.

>>59563374
Seeing as my Fulla 2 doesn't sound as good as the stack somehow... I'd say grab the Schiit stack (magni+modi) or Jotunheim if you want to be sure. Alternatively, O2+ODAC.

I'd still recommend Fulla 2 on a budget, as that's still useful to have (could, say, buy a Magni 2 later on and use the fulla2 as DAC-only, or use them with other headphones/different location).

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>>59563151
>>59563247
From left to right:
AKG Q701, K701, K702, Sennheiser HD 600, 650

>>59563426
I bought them on account of hearing that they were very durable. For what it's worth, I also broke the DT880s I used to replace them after 3 years. The sound quality wasn't much different, but they were far more comfortable.

I've meant to try and fix the DT880s, but I'm lazy.

>>59563476
+ HD 580.

>>59563284
What a dumb analogy.

opinion on ath m40x?

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>>59563476
HOLY SHIT
SENNHEISER GETTING BTFO IN CHANNEL MATCHING
HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER?
#SAYNOTOCHINKSHIT

>>59563284
First of all sample size is nothing to be proud of, its still is a valuable data but with its sample size its nowhere near to speak for even most people. Second, if you check untrained listeners graph than you will see that difference in score between HD800 and LCD 2 (that have much more bass emphasis) is not that big and within 1,5 points max. You get a significant drop off in beats because they are both nowhere near high end around 1k HD800 and LCD 2 and they also suck dicks as headphones themselves, and if you wasn't such a bad shitposter you would actually check that beats don't eve have a sub bass.

Check yourself before you shrek yourself lil cucky.

>>59563460
Does the Fulla 2 sound ok though?

I'm just trying to be introduced to better audio.

Currently have ATH-M30s and before that G35s

I'm still stuck between HD600s and X2.

I am reading that people are saying to not bother with HD600s unless you have more money than the headphones are to drop on the DAC or amp or whatever.

>>59563430
Thanks man, I like the font as well ;)
Started listening to a few of your fav artists, they sound great. :)

>>59563614
HD 600 for neutral, Fidelio X2 for bassy.

And yes, you generally do need a decent AMP if you want to drive the HD 600. X2s do not.

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>>59563430
Nice waifu indeed.

Touwa meme <3

>>59563539
A-a-at least they're """""neutral"""""

>>59563614
>Does the Fulla 2 sound ok though?
Yes, it doesn't sound bad, it sounds ok. It's just the stack (which I'm used to) sounds better.

>I'm just trying to be introduced to better audio.
By all means, do.

>Currently have ATH-M30s and before that G35s
Yeah, pretty low tier.

>I'm still stuck between HD600s and X2.
Definitely go with HD600s. Neutral is the way to go. You'll be comparing everything to the HD600 thereon.

The X2 are popular for some reason, but they're definitely not even trying at being neutral.

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is spidey, dare i say, /ourguy/?

>>59563736
>Definitely go with HD600s

"Usually ships within 1 to 2 months."

wew

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>>59563781
Definitely is.

>>59563789
Where are you?

I'm an eurofag... got them within 2 days from amazon. There's plenty amazons to choose from.

>>59563806
USA.

All of the sellers are like this.
Estimated delivery: April 11, 2017 - May 9, 2017
Items shipped from Amazon.com

Even Best Buy will take a week to get them in.

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>>59563861
That's surprising and interesting.

Hey /hpg/, am I being memed on, or are HD 600s really that neutral of a headphone?

http://ca.rtings.com/headphones/graph#325/323

>>59563926
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

>>59563926
They're a pair of neutral AF earspeakers that'll throw you into pure audio hell.

That much is true. There's no un-hearing the HD600. Fucked for life.

Do you guys ever feel guilty for spending so much money on headphones and accessories?

>>59563533
If you don't mind neutral, it's pretty solid.

>>59563961
>earspeakers

:?/

>>59563989
Thankfully what I've spent so far is pocked change to me.

But I'm glad I got the shitstack and HD600. So fucking glad.

I agree with reviewers that these headphones are simply good at everything, but do excel at female voices.

The voices are so clear. Can not just see the girls up close and smell their hair. Can even feel the softness of their skin. The ultimate idolfag headphones.

>>59563889
Launch batch has many problems like the wood cracking and using MMCX connectors. Hopefully the next batch fixes that. Soundwise, some say they sound close to LCD2'S.

>>59564049
>earspeakers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfWwCfN8TO0

https://youtu.be/hrr-GAlHzLQ

daily reminder that M1060 best headphone

>>59564188
>Z reviews
Delete this before /hpg/ rips you apart, anon.

>>59564188
>Z Review

>>59560984
It's being like this since the beggining, first we had V6 vs. M50 (Aka treble rape vs niggerbass), later we had big three fight which deluted in akg vs senn, then beyer vs senn, for a brief time we also had Dt770 vs K550 too, more Beyer vs senn, a little Akg vs beyer, back to beyer vs senn and so on...
Truth is the shitposting always uses the most popular options of it's time, which usually result in a sudden rise and fall of said models in here, followed by another model being the new shitposting target...
A lot of what is said today come a from old shitposting and arguments actually.

I don't miss CG.

>>59564268
At least CG knew he was shitposting.
Now /hpg/ is full of reddit and head-fi tourists who don't even realize they are shitposting.

>>59564226
>>59564235
there's L I T E R A L L Y wrong with Z Reviews

>>59564339
Did you miss a word, anon? I don't mind him, but everyone else in /hpg/ does.

got an hd558, looking to get the e10k, is it worth?

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>>59564085
Gotta add this to my backlog

>>59563314
How could you possible have a V6 or a 7506 dying after 2 years?
My five years V6 saw some pretty heavy use and all i had to do was buying New pads (which are more comfortable than the stock ones anyway, so if anything it was an upgrade)

>>59563781
Which headphones are those?

>>59564445
These, easily.

http://www.sony.ca/en/electronics/headband-headphones/mdr-1000x

>>59564399
>Accel World
That was physically painful.

>>59564322
True, but threads would also die within a few hours, by the beyerremorse/mudheiser time it was nearly impossible to have an actual debate here.
Ar least the current ones don't put that much effort on it.

>>59564504
>That was physically painful.
But it had kuroyukihime!

>>59564480
Uh, while i understand the Spidey + Sony thing i'm pretty sure Peter would never have moneymore for thosedormir headphones. Still, cool headphones.

>>59564504
I've been adding whatever anime I found on 4chan, so I don't expect half of those to actually be any good. For 3 years i've been doing this, and i've only finished 22 out of the 150+ on there. Maybe sometime later in my life.

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>>59564322
Tyll here. Have you faggots upgraded your cables yet?

>>59557395
The SR850 is really nice for it's low price.

>>59564612
Hi. Which cables are best for the Seinhauser HD675 and HD750?

>>59563736

I am so excited there is a headphones thread here holy shit. I really need your guy's help.
I am really torn between the HD 598 and the Fidelio X2... My previous headset was a PC 350 which is a gaming headset from sennheiser and I had done the "hero mod" which enable some extra bass. I had own that headset for 7 years.

Now I want to treat my ears so to speak. I mainly game but appreciate music as well. I want a nice bit of bass, obviously not too much where it drowns out certain information in games but I want to feel as if I am IN the picture/sound. Would the 598 do it for me or should I spend a bit more for the X2's? Or should I just wait for the Massdrop exclusive sennheiser PC37x's

>>59564900
The X2s may have a bit too much bass, whereas the 598s barely have any. For gaming, the X2s has a wider soundstage.

>>59560603
Herschel Supply has a large variety of reasonably priced and well constructed wallets. Quite happy with mine.

>>59562733
>My logic for buying them was I wanted something with detachable cords and I got closed because I travel a lot and wanted something I could listen to while on a flight or when I am a passenger in a car.

So how does the M50x dissapoint on that?

Not the best sound signature, but there are obviously pros and cons. Get a second set of open headphones if you want accuracy and soundstage.

>>59564900
The HD598 are very good "gateway drug" headphones. They're close to neutral (a little warm/bright). They do have bass, it's just not the kind that drills your skull. They are extremely comfortable. They're crazy good value for the price, particularly with the sales it's getting lately.

>>59561905
>people listen to this unironically

>>59564921
>X2s has a wider soundstage.
Oh very nice, I thought the 598 was the king in that area but awesome. With the bass in the 598 would the bass still be fine in songs or what I have to enable some bass boost option on my sound card? See below for the type of bass I mention please

>>59564996
>They do have bass, it's just not the kind that drills your skull.
The bass that I want is like a nice bass in some Hans Zimmer tracks. Thats probably the best way I can describe it. Would the 598 provide that to me?

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>>59558939
Okay I'm back, having the same problem again. The audio keeps cutting out randomly and when the audio goes out the "I'm Fulla Schiit" Audio device cuts disappears entirely. I'm going to use the headphones default computer port for now, but hopefully someone can help since I can't find much info on the Fulla 2.

>>59565045
Bass in the HD 598 is more like texture in sound than anything else; if you know what I mean. the 598s has a bass roll off that may not make it ideal for bassy music compared to other headphones; they are more neutral, but are also lacking in the bass department.

>>59563889
>Thoughts on pic related?
They sound like shit. Monoprice even stopped selling them.

>>59565152
Do you own them?

>>59563373
>When will this stop?
When you die. I suggest you speed up the process.

>>59563513
>What a dumb analogy.
Truth hurts.

>>59563592
Oh you silly goose.

>>59565121
Seems like usb issues.

Try connecting to pc directly (vs using a hub). Try using the separate usb power input from a phone charger or powered hub.

>>59565155
No but I got to take a listen. Muddy bass, shitty mids and quite nice treble.

Oh, and they clamp like a vise.

>>59565131
I get what youre saying, but I dont want to believe it. Is there any other set of headphones that you recommend in my criteria? I do want to order the 598's but then I dont want to be disappointed by the lack of bass.

>>59565162
Man, you are really late, aren't you?

Also, you did the silly goose bit to the wrong anon. Kek; nice rebuttal.

>>59565045
I quite enjoy old techno on the HD598.

Like, even Amiga mods and such.

>>59565192
Chiptune is besttune.

>>59565166
So plug the charge from my wall into the "Power" slot in the Fulla 2, and then a USB from my PC into the "Power + Data" part of the amp?

>>59565185
No headphones I can recommend that aren't horribly v-shaped. The further you go down the line, the more bass have; but it also gets worse. Maybe AKG headphones if you can get a decent seal, but with those rounded earcups, I doubt that. DT 880s can also be an alternative for you, but they can be a bit bright for some people.

I suggest you look some more; hopefully you find your pair.

>>59565230
mods are good on hd598, I admit.

But hd600 is absurd good, beyond ridiculous, at mods, sids and idol songs.

>>59558939
This happened with my e10k
thought u should know

>>59565162
What the hell are with these arguments?

>>59565270
Well, how did you fix it?

>>59565255
Yeah. Idea is data as close to computer as possible (avoid hubs), and power as strong and reliable as possible (powered hubs, usb 3/fast charge ports and such).

>>59565185
just get the 598cs or the 558 for more bass, doesn't matter anyway because eq

>>59565285
sold it

>>59565290
558 are less bassy AIUI.
598cs are closed, eww. They also hold no relation to 598 beyond sennheiser exploiting the popularity of the number.

599 are slightly bassier than 598, but pricing tends to suck.

>>59565290
Are you going to bring up equalizing every time? I hope you know they don't fix everything in a headphone.

HD 598 Cs' has bass, but it is also muddy as fuck. HD 558s maybe do too, but it is meh at best.

>>59565256
Damn, thank you. There is a massdrop for the AK7xx for $200,but I dont want anything to do with the shipping time from massdrop. I guess I will have a local guitarcenter order it and I will try it out for a week or two and decide. If not then I will fork out the money for the X2's on amazon. Hopefully those will be great. I would rather order both the headsets from amazon but I dont want my account banned if I keep returning headsets.
>>59565290
>>59565325
I listened to an 558 in a local bestbuy and it was absolute crap to me. I am pretty sure it was blown out though.

>>59565385
I hope you get the headphones you wanted, anon.

>>59565289
Alright, I ddi that and it's still happening. While actually monitoring the sound devices, it looks like the thing just straight up freezes all sound for some reason, even doing the audio test just freezes when it cuts off randomly.

>>59565349
>Are you going to bring up equalizing every time? I hope you know they don't fix everything in a headphone.

It does fix literally everything. If you think otherwise you're just another audiophool.

I also don't know who you're referring to when you say every time i'm not the person you were talking to I just casually pop into these threads from time to time.

>>59565419
Are you sure? I'm almost sure it doesn't fix sound stage or driver resolution.

>>59555366
Where can I get them for not $450 cad

>>59563284
>generally preffer ≠ everyone preffer
The very fact that they "generally" preffer implies that at least a minimum of people preffer other signatures, therefore "signature preffence" cant be put out of the equation since it's not a universal thing.

>>59565406
Thank you anon

>recommending the HD600 when the DT-880 exists at multiple impedances
Literally better sound for cheaper for any source. Plus the headbands are fully metal. Just because you fell for the HD600 meme doesn't mean you have to shill.

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>>59565279
>What the hell are with these arguments?
Shithead, read the fucking study conclusions: >>59563284

It's these retarded poorfags who never owned a good set of phones that don't have any arguments. All they bring up are

MUH FEELING
MUH SOUND SIGNATURE
MUH PREFERENCE

All bullshit. All lies. All nonsense. As big of a nonsense as audiphile cables, sound rocks and special wooden knobs.

When will you people learn not to listen and stop getting advice from these fucking retards on here who have $50 headphones and can't afford anything good and have never even tried the headphones they shitpost about?

If you're gonna get eyeglasses, you don't go to a fucking homeless joe blow to tell you what to buy. And when some retard tells you that you don't want natural sound signature, that means they want to sell you on buying glasses that blur everything.

So don't listen to these autistic poorfags who talk about phones they never head on their head.

Just fucking learn how the sound reproduction works, what a freq response curve is and learn how to look at graphs. Then read the reviews from people who know what they're talking about and have a long history of grading headphone audio quality. Then make your choice. There's no fucking voodoo.

>>59565661
STFU. Quit samefagging.

>>59565899
>N-no, good goy! I-ignore what YOU like; instead, take a look at what I like! T-t-these are the headphones you prefer!

Man, when will Sennheiser shills stop shitting out the """neutral""" meme whenever someone asks for a headphone recommendation?

You don't even have a decent rebuttal for >>59565661 and >>59563592

>>59565385
>There is a massdrop for the AK7xx for $200,but I dont want anything to do with the shipping time from massdrop.

Just so you know, the current K7XX drop ships out 1-2 days after you join the it; it's not the normal 1-2+ month wait that you'd see with other drops.

Are there good non foam tips that fit on the Carbo Tenore?

I got the comply foams, and while they improve comfort and isolation, not really optimal for short term listening.

>>59565899
>All they bring up are
>MUH FEELING
>MUH SOUND SIGNATURE
>MUH PREFERENCE
Almost like sound signature is subjective, eh, anon?

>Budget
About $200
>Location
Australia
>Source
An O2 headphone amp mostly but also phone and record player sometimes.
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
No strong preference
>Comfort level
Comfort would be good as I wear them a lot
>Sound signature
No particular preferences
>Past headphones
Been using a pair of AD700 for the past 5 or so years.

>>59557395
K612 easily, though SR850 isnt bad for the price

>>59558939
Sounds like the USB cable/sockets are borked and is disconnecting your fulla for like a tenth of a second.

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Might not be the best place to ask but what's a good amp if I want to be able to have multiple input sources?

>>59555009
Should I buy this?

I have a fuck ton of disposable income right now and am looking to upgrade my setup.

I'm currently using the Philips Fidelio X2 with a FiiO E7. Money ain't no thang right now but I don't want to waste money on snake oil.

pls no bully

>>59565409
Contact Schiit.
The Fulla 2 shipped with a loose part problem, can affect USB. May be related to your issue.

>>59566599
>am looking to upgrade my setup.
Don't just say better, say how.

>>59566646

I really enjoy the bass on the Fidelio X2 but I know they're open headphones. Bass is good but I don't want to sacrifice overall sound quality for nigger bass.

>>59565121
Most likely a problem with your fulla 2. People have been having problems with it over at head-fi when I went to see opinions on it myself.

>>59566674
So, do you want neutral headphones?

>>59565899
>getting this mad
>muh universal truth
Chill, and while you are at it, go study some basic statistics before citing studies you don't even understand.

>>59565795
Already tried the 880, and just like everything else, it doesn't come close to the 600 or even the 650 m8. Nice try.

>>59566704
I like what I have now. I'm just wondering if there's a clear upgrade to this. I lean more towards bass.

I haven't been to these threads in years so I'm not hip on what's new and great.

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anyone have these?

worth $80?

>>59566704
DT 990s, maybe. More bass from the X2s, but bass from the DT 990s are more detailed and less bloated. Treble can get a bit uncomfortable though.

>>59563889
Wait till the next revision

>>59566740
>$80
>HD 558
>AD500X
>SHP9500S
Not even close.

>>59566803
Those paired with a chink shit detachable mic will give you better sound quality.

>>59566783
Meant for
>>59566736

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>>59565972
>Sennheiser shills
oh look, it's that racist piece of shit Philips SHP9500 shill who keeps on giving people """advice""" on here yet he admitted he has $50 headphones and has never even had Sennheisers on his head. but he will post dozens of pictures of broken Senns to """prove""" his point.

see, this is the kind of """advice""" that you guys are getting. an autistic mental nutjob poorfag who spends 12hrs+ shitposting to this thread.

>>59566896
>MUH NEUTRALITY
>Anyone opposing me is a Philips shill
Amazing argument, anon. Glad to see you're getting better at this.

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>>59566896
Is "racist piece of shit" even an insult anymore? I've just grown desensitized to it. Try to get more creative with your insults, please.

i use 40$ shit headphones, and used beats in the past.

i will take anything that sounds nice sub 100$
suggestions?

>>59566980
See
>>59566803
But replace AD500Xs with AD700Xs

>>59566980
Philips SHP9500 if you listen to music alone, Audio Technica ATH-M30x if you listen to music out and about.

>>59561054
desu the kitchentop meme is pretty true
and the veil is at least slightly real on the 650's

>>59567008
i have never used overear headphones, dont think i would like em

>>59567038
What pair are you refering to? Do you want in-ear headphones?

>>59567038
Are you asking for in-ears or on-ears? We can recommend some for either.

>100$
>US
>Honor 8
>IEM
>The best a 100 can buy
>Flattest possible, I listen a lot of genres of music.

>>59566783
upgrade or sidegrade?

>>59565257
idol songs? Like Love Live!?

>>59567065
>>59567055
yes please
i like on ear headphones

>>59567101
More of a slight upgrade.

>>59567153
I don't know dude, I owned a pair of DT770s in the past and the comfort level just wasn't there. I don't mind spending more than $500.

>>59567128
I don't think I've ever found a person that likes on ears more than over ears, you should really try them.

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>>59567128
Sony MDRX05 if you like bass, haven't tried any other on-ear headphones.

>>59566682
>>59565166
>>59566646
Booted into Windows 10 (have dual-boot with 7 and 10).

The Fulla Schiit audio device works flawlessly on Windows 10 but keeps freezing on Windows 7. I don't really know what to make of this since it supposedly doesn't require drivers.

>>59567181
i will try them

>>59567153
What about HE-560?

Below 150$ over ear headphones?

Not an audiophile, just so it sounds nice.

Will be listening to music with them. Preferably with an exchangeable aux cord that I can unplug from headphones and use my own aux cord to plug to pc. (is aux cord the right name? the 2.5mm headphone thingamajigger)

>>59567310
Preferred sound signature?

>>59567401
He said just sounds nice, and he's no audiophile so obviously he wouldn't know how to answer that.
I'd probably say neutral to warm with slight bass emphasis.

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>>59555009
Buying some MSR7s for public transport/uni, but the cable is shit so I need to get another one. Would https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WHUTQNS/ref=twister_B01MSQSU3K?_encoding=UTF8&th=1 be good for the job as far as braided cables go?

>>59567562
>>59567562
>>59567562
>>59567562

New thread.

>>59567088
If you want to spend $150 get some Audio-Technica ATH-M50x, you won't be disappointed.

>>59567566
are these any good for music?

>>59567566
>IEM
>M50x

Pick uno.

wth is with all these recommendations recently who suggest circumaural headphones when someone is asking for IEMs

>>59567545
The cable isn't shit... it comes with a 3m cable and two short ones: one with a one-button control and mic, and one without.

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>>59563284
Stop quoting studies you don't understand. Work on your reading comprehension.

>>59564339
I agree. He is a terrible reviewer who lacks understanding of even the most basic concepts on audio but somehow seems to think he is qualified to talk about it.

>>59561638
Looks like an anime package to me!
durrr

>>59567123
love live, idolm@ster, aikatsu, love hina, hatsune miku, puripara...

>>59567204
Try it on Linux, where it should also just work.

Maybe your win7 has latency spike issues, or you did install something like usb filter drivers (to make eg: ps3 gamepad work, old style vs scarlet.crush new method) that are sabotaging you.

It might also be win7 usb audio drivers just suck. That OS is 8yr old after all.