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/- PC Build General - concerned shlomo edition

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Post your component list, rate other anons', and ask questions in general.

Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.

Assemble your parts list; built-in price comparisons by vendor and a compatibility filter.

https://pcpartpicker.com


Gaming builds based monitor resolution and refresh rate

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/


>To activate the Description, select build from sidebar then click on the title over the parts list
>Description contains notes, other options, and build skeleton for easy customization / cost savings
>Note: Win7 and 8.1 cannot be installed on a 200 series chipset

Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.

http://www.logicalincrements.com/


>Subsitute a G4560 with 2400MHz RAM for any Pentium or i3; similar performance, up to 50% cost reduction.
>Consider using an i5 7500 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build
>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build without a Z mobo
>Consider a B250 or mobo for any Pentium or i3 build
>Add a 240GB SSD to the "Very Good" tier build
>The only worthwhile gfx cards are the GTX1050, RX470, RX480, GTX1060 6GB for 1080p
>wait for Ryzen R5s


General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.

http://pastebin.com/F9diF2hA (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)


Information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc.

https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC


>Outdated chipset information

If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with >>>/g/pcbg

Old Thread: >>59491137
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>>59518464
fuck, i fucked it up
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Good enough for me.

What should I put this in? Not gonna water cool, eventually might have one more HDD and one more SSD. Ws thinking Fractal Arc mini. I just want dust filters, and something clean.
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>>59518829
The Define Mini C is pretty good. The Corsair 350D is also solid.
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Currently have an mATX with a 1080 and a wifi/bluetooth card in the pcie 4x slot.

Wondering if it's possible for me to put another 1080 in there too and use a riser to move the wifi card off the board and to occupy the bottom slot of my 5 slot case. Anyone done a build like this?
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>>59518944
Seconding the Mini C, it's pretty gorgeous and not too gamery like some cases
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>>59518829
get a 1060
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dbpTqk

Postin mine for some advice.
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I need people to call me a retard cause i just got my new GPU today but out of all the shit i checked to make sure it will work the only thing i forgot to check when buying it was the max size card that can fit into my case.

So now i have a new card sitting there mocking me while i try to find a new case that can fit the damn thing.

So in trying to save some time before i go hunting for a new case since mine is somewhat old anyway with alot of usb slots and other extra space that was never being used and wasted. Are there any mid-towers that can fit a 1060? (10.9 x 5.5 x 1.5 inches) Or should i just look for fulls? The space isnt an issue but in trying to save a few dollars im wondering if i can just go with another mid.
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>>59519052
Not even that anon but why would you get the inferior of the two cards?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tf69vV
$1300 on craigslist, how did I do?
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>>59519078
First off, it's faster. Also, g-sync, CUDA, better thermals and drivers
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what the fuck is going on with ryzen motherboards, especially ASUS? Aren't they suppose to be good?
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>>59519186
Another Massive Disappointment
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>>59519112
>it's faster
Only marginally on select titles
>g-sync
Only if you want to use it, many people can operate without it with a decent monitor
>CUDA
The RX 480 8GB has twice the cores that the GTX 1060 6GB has.
>better thermals
The XFX GTR and MSI cards would like to talk to you
>drivers
AMDs drivers age better than Nvidia's. You can see this even on Nvidia-supported games like For Honor.

The RX 480 is roughly the same card for a much cheaper price. It's a better buy.
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Pathetic. Building computers is easy and deserves no dedicated thread. Just go to /sqt/ faggots.
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>>59519207
And a r7 1700 is slower depite having twice the amount of cores as a 7700k. Your point?
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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NTKwKZ
How's this? Should I wait for R5 or just give into jewtel after the fuckup that was ryzen 7?
I'll mostly be doing general computing, photo editing and gaymin.
I plan to give in to the 16gb of ram and SSD meme soon but the list is what I'll have at purchase.
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>>59519334
Get a 1060 and it's perfect.
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>>59519248
>Comparing GPU cores to CPU cores
Pure autism.
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>>59519353
I honestly might for the extra 15 bucks, 480 seems to be doing better in recent titles however.
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>>59519355
Literally nothing wrong with autism.
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I need some advices about the build in the picture. I'm trying to build something compact based on the gaming build from the guide that is capable of running games at 60fps capped @1080p, but with some tweaks based on what's available at the retailer I'm going to buy from.

The thing I've been wondering is, would the RX 480 be overkill for 1080p or am I going into the right direction considering I want some future proofing, or should I go for a something else like a 3gb 1060?

The second question would be about the case, is there anything as compact (if not more) that's better?

Thanks ~
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zM7QxY

Im happy
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>>59519532
I done goof, my case is Define Nano S not normal Define S
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Mulling over this case.
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>>59519053
>rgb ram
>rgb psu
>rgb case fans
My advice is build a computer, not a gay bar.
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>>59519109
>5400 rpm hard drive
Not that awful but why not 7200 rpm?
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>>59519603
Kind of an unflattering pic for that case. The box is all worn and the lower right makes it look like some poor mook cut his finger before taping it up.
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>>59519186

Look at their Z270 mother boards, then look at their AM4 boards.

ASUS is a fucking disgrace to AMD owners. Not only are they the ones leaking to the press about not having enough time, which is bullshit, they are bricking their boards with bios updates for the AM4 platform.

Meanwhile MSI who started off as shaky as ASUS has thrown out a massive BIOS update that is rated for some decent RAM. And Gigabyte and AsRock are still kings of the roost in AMD land.
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>>59519197

Enough about Optane.
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>>59519724
100/100
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>>59519831
Yeah. They're cheap. Looking for a good well-ventilated mid-tower for ~$50 that doesn't have a pile of plastic on it.
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Anything wrong with 2.5" HDD's? It's easier to shove one of those into the SSSD mounting positions on most cases and remove the drive bays for better air flow like in the Fractal arc mini.
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>>59519248
>this fag
go away you cucked shill
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>>59519353
fuck off and stop shilling

>>59519334
>ryzen 7
>fuckup
if you honestly think that ive got some bad news for you
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>>59518829
>parametric filter picks RGB ram
What did it mean by this?
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Anon, I am about to buy it.
What do you think?
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>>59519998
>Anything wrong with 2.5" HDD's?
Not really. Used to be physical limitations in storage capacity but that's not an issue any longer. Air flow doesn't really improve or falter between 2.5" and 3.5" drives.
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so my evga gtx 980 ftw edition recently had some black screen issues and i sent it off to evga for testing/replacing. i guess the 980 is out of stock or something because they're sending me a gtx 1070 superclocked as a replacement (!).

how badly will my i5 [email protected] bottleneck it? would it be worth keeping or selling and replacing with a 1060 + some spare cash? there's no point in keeping it if my processor is going to be holding it back. i don't see myself upgrading my cpu for another year at least.
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>>59520342
Look up more about that psu. I'm sure thermaltake makes good products but look up specific models of a brand to be safe. I've never heard of anyone using a thermaltake brand psu so do some research on it before buying/using it.
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>>59520450
>i guess the 980 is out of stock or something
Well since the pascal came out there would be no reason for nvidia to make new older gen cards.Your i5 should be fine. If you had an i3 then it definitely would see a bottleneck.
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>>59520491
do you think this 1070 would have those themal issues? i heard about the evga models having bad cooling
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>>59520342
>year of our lord
>buying pentium
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>>59520582
fuck wrong picture!!!
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Lol guys throwing my 32 gb of ddr4 ram in the microwave today
bought some sick ass rgb ram
going to look great in my new build
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I cant decide between https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-100R-Tower-Case/dp/B00RORBQNW

or

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-SPEC-01-Gaming-CC-9011050-WW/dp/B00I6BJATW

I know the 2nd one looks "videogames bro!" as hell but the look really doesnt matter to me. Im more just talking about what works better for air flow and other functionality for the price.
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Not him but bump >>59519073 because came here to ask similar question.

Can the Define Mini C handle all GPUs out there or are there some that don't fit?
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>>59520727
The first one looks better in terms of bang for your buck as well as functionality/air flow.
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>>59519850
>And Gigabyte and AsRock are still kings of the roost in AMD land.
What did he mean by this?
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>>59520727
I am in this same rut. I like the classic box look, but short of paying out the ass I can't find a case that does what I need.
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>>59520795
It should tell you on the dimensions of the case how large of a GPU it can fit. If your GPU is smaller than that it will fit, if it is larger it won't. For the Mini C that's up to 315 mm.
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>>59520727
100R
>>59519850
>>59520804
he's wrong about gigabyte but right about AsRock
AsRock>MSI(cept for the overpriced x370 board, do tomahawk)>Gigabyte>Biostar>ASUS
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>>59520848
Not that anon but how is the AsRock AB350 board (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157761&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=)?
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>>59520727
Thermaltake X9 is better than both of those
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>>59520890
should be fine, but I'd wait on ryzen till the am4 platform is stable
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>>59520960
What is the problem with it now (or just AM4 mobos in general)?
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>>59520576
Evga had (emphasis on had) issues with some gtx models getting too damn hot. After november 2016 it's been fixed but if you're still concerned about thermal issues they'll send some thermal pads you can install if you ask for them.
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I keep hearing about how Windows keys can be acquired for 15 bucks, can someone explain please? If I'm not mistaken, if I end up formatting I'd have to buy yet another key right?

Also what's the advantage of doing this rather than just using toolkit?
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>>59520980
memory compatibility
motherboards DOA
dicking around with unstable bioses
all that fun stuff
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I know the problems with this build
everything but AM4 and the Ram are what I already own
I do a lot of shit that would be slowed by a 7700k and I don't have a thousand dollars sitting around for a single cpu
yes I know the psu is overkill, I already own it
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>>59521141
How long would you suggest waiting?
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>>59521185
I dunno, both AsRock and MSI have already done their big updates so they should be better, but I'd still wait a month tbqh
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>>59521205
Ok that's fine I was gonna get my R5 in a couple months anyways.
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>>59518464
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K8c8Cy
Bout to pull the trigger any final thoughts?
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>>59521371
I would get the define s instead of the define c. Look into getting a better keyboard too, especially one that is mechanical.
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>>59521371
For 1600 bucks you REALLY should get an i7 instead. You need those 8 threads, you can't expect your computer to last down the road with just 4 cores 4 threads. Trust me you'll thank me later.
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>>59521371
fuck the deathadder. i have one and it has that shitty double clicking problem which is a big deal apparently since google is filled with people with the same problem as me
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has there been any problems with the Gigabyte B350 boards?
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>>59521454
>no but really guys 8 CORES IS THE FUTURE
fuck off, hes fine with 4 cores.
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>>59521449
This is just to get me in the door. I plan to upgrade my keyboard and audio down the road maybe month from now.
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>>59521467
What doubleclicking problem? I have one and I have encountered no problems.
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>>59521467
Any other good mice for around $50
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>>59521495
Ok good. In that case just get a cheap Logitech board and you should be fine. Other than your case it looks good for the budget though.
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>>59521504
type it in google, its a massive issue with this mouse.
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>>59521492
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-03/amd-ryzen-1800x-1700x-1700-test/3/#diagramm-gesamtrating-spiele-full-hd

Where do you think those 6% difference come from? If you think this won't become a trend soon enough you're just being ignorant here. I'm not telling him to go AMD I'm telling him to push his budget a little more and feel good about making the right choice. 100 more bucks is nothing if you plan on keeping your computer for like 4 or 5 years, especially if you're already spending 1600 bucks and buying a $50 meme mouse.
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>>59521512
What's wrong with the c ?
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>>59521523
If I do get an i7 should I get a better cooler
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>>59521520
Wow, I've never had it.
>>59521523
>meme mouse
The deathadder is good for its price though. For a $1600 build its fine, he obviously didn't buy an i7 for a reason. 4 cores is fine for most people and will last them a while, not everyone needs to have top of the line performance meant for media creators.
>>59521529
The define s is cheaper, larger, has better build quality, and is overall just easier to build in.
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>>59521559
They are the same price on PC part picker
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>>59521555
Not that anon but if you do have the budget for an i7 unless you were gonna majorly OC it an H7 should be fine. If you want to go all out a liquid cooler (the Corsair H100i v2 is nice, or any of the NZXT ones) should suit that build nicely, though that might be pushing it into 2k territory.
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>>59521577
The define s windowed version is cheaper.
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>>59521555
I got the H7 as well for my i7 and there's no problem but if you intend to overclock a lot then I'd recommend something slightly more expensive like a H5. Be careful as to whether it'd fit in your case or not though.

>>59521559
>meant for media creators.
This is just ignorant and irresponsible to recommend him an i5 if he's already seemingly ready to put so much money into his PC. He's obviously a gamer and want to be comfortable for many years to come. Fuck even on leddit people have come to realize i7 is not only for media creation but is also becoming a norm in high-end gaming. Just google "Battlefield 1 i7" or "game hyperthreading" and inform yourself.
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>>59521597
Shit you are right. Thanks
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>>59519078
Affordable budget price, not all of us has a swimming pool full of money
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>>59521613
But the RX 480 is cheaper.
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>>59521371
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K8c8Cy

you can shave a good amount of money off the cost if you don't waste money on a meme board like that. even a $90 z170 will do the same things just fine for half the cost. also you can get ram with the same clocks for much cheaper.
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>>59521598
You do realize hyperthreading doesn't have a huge impact on vidya right? I mean it all depends on whether $1600 is his limit or not. I'm acting under the assumption it is so to say "lol get an i7" is just fucking retarded.
>i7 is the norm for high-end gaming
An i7 is overkill. I don't know where you are pulling your information besides leddit (since you obviously go on it). The most people will need is an i5. I don't know what will lead you to believe otherwise.
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>>59519248
His point is that they want something to compete with other high end cards without having to spill too much money, a poorfag's logic I suppose
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>>59521658
>dude poorfags lmao xD
Back to your containment thread, retard
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>>59521657
In all honesty I think I'm gonna go with the i5 just to keep it in budget. Kaby Lake is already halfway through it's cycle so I will rather just upgrade to the next gen when the time comes
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>>59521630
>getting a skylake mobo for a kaby lake system
This is fucking stupid.
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>>59521657
leddit was based on some google results I just got upon replying to you.

This will be my last post, I'm not here to prove anyone wrong I just wanted to put the word out there for anon. Ultimately it's his money and his build, now he knows there's an alternative for him, up to him to do his own researches and decide for himself whether it'd be good for him or not.
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>>59521626
Yes, like what you said there, its cheaper so poorfags can buy it, if you dont have but loads of money, you'll never get those high end efficient cards and will likely resort to cheaper ones
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>>59521685
the 7600k will work on it though.
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>>59521692
Thanks for stating the obvious, even newfags know this
>Nvidia=higher end cards, but higher prices
>AMD=lower end cards, and lower prices

AMD is the better choice for low end cards but can't compete with Nvidia in price ranges like the 1070 and 1080.
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>>59521703
It requires a work around BIOS update though.
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>>59521724
>AMD is the better choice for low end cards in the usa and can't compete with Nvidia in price ranges like the 1070 and 1080 globally.

fixed
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>>59521739
>caring about prices outside of burgerland
America is the only place that matters, kid
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>>59521744
funny how amd thinks the same things. no wonder they sell fuck all. eh, it's their fault and loss at the end of the day.
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>>59521761
Better to sell to countries that actually matter than pajeets and third world trashbins.
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>>59521730
yeah but would you rather spend $80 more on a mobo with extra features you'd never ever use or spend $80 less and take 10 minutes to install a bios update?
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>>59521774
I would personally have a mobo that is compatible out of the box instead of cutting corners for budget constraints. If you are doing that, you may as well just get a sky lake at that point.
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>>59521772
yeah because no sales is better sales right? i'm sure you'd pass an economics class with the highest marks.
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>>59521794
At least AMD doesn't jew out its customers because they don't know better. I would rather have reduced sales than make more because the company CEO is a fucking kike that wants more shekels.
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>>59521790
it's not cutting corners is it though. kaby lake is literally skylake refresh. you're just doing an update to gain access to those new features. it literally take 5 minutes to download the bios, stick it on a usb and flash it. way more worth it than spending large amounts of money more. that $80 can be spent on like two 1tb hdd's.
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>>59521804
>At least AMD doesn't jew out its customers because they don't know better.

yikes
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>>59521822
Or you could just get a sky lake cpu and a z170 mobo. Saves you much more money.
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>>59521836
>using memes this stale
wew
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>>59521851
not really. the 7700k is only like $6 more in many places but clocks much higher.
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I searched this on google but have found conflicting results does any body know? Coffeelake gonna be a diferent chipset but same socket and Cannonlake gonna be new socket??
Looking to upgrade my cpu on the first quarter of the next year
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>>59521875
>7700k
>i7
>comparing the i7 kabylake and i5 skylake processors
Oh please.
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>>59521892
forgot it was 7600k. thought it was 6700k vs 7700k for a bit there.

either way it's the same story between the two generations of i5.
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>>59521860
how is it a meme if it's not exaggerated or untruth?
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>>59521904
All I'm saying is that it would be more worth it to just get a sky lake CPU and mobo instead of mismatching them.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vtC79W

Gonna be used for gaming and some video editing
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>>59521910
Because that's not what meme means you dip
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>>59521923
m8 you're severely overestimating the differences between z270 and z170.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3152701/hardware/official-intel-7th-gen-kaby-lake-review-one-big-change-makes-up-for-smaller-ones.html

they're basically 99.9% the same. there's no reason z270 should even exist other than mobo makers being greedy.
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>>59521935
Get WD hard drives. You could up the frequency of your RAM as well. You don't need a 1080Ti either, a 1080 should suit you just fine. How heavily will you be video editing?
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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NTKwKZ
Posted this earlier, gonna be used for photo/video editing and gaymin. I plan to add an SSD and another 8gb of ram. Thoughts?
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>>59521957
Thanks, will consider WD for HDD´s, what frequency should I aim for?
You sure I wont need the Ti? I will be gaming at 3440x1440p and the monitor goes up to 100Hz


As for video editing I will be encoding very short videos at h.265
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/crc9vV
Mostly an upgrade from my aging 8350. I've been needing more storage for a while and m.2 would be nice
Any suggestions?
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>>59522038
I like in the 3000 to 3200 range for a high tier build like your own. 32GB if you are doing heavy editing or processing but it doesn't sound like you are so 16GB should be fine. 3000 seems like a good frequency too. As for the Ti, let me just put this into perspective. Currently, the 1080Ti is the most powerful graphics card in the world. It is meant for 4k 144hz gaming, sometimes on a multi-monitor set up. You are playing at 1440p at 100hz, which while demanding, is not what the 1080Ti is marketed towards. A 1080 should be plenty. You could get 1070 if you feel the 1080 is overkill. My friend runs 1080p 144hz with a 1070 and even he admits it's kinda overkill for a 1070. Your choice though. I would personally suggest to get a 1080.
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>>59522118
>4k 144hz gaming,
TOP KEK m8
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>>59522042
Get the 850 EVO. Other than that it looks fine.
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>>59522129
Are you trying to tell me the most powerful GPU IN THE WORLD isn't meant for 4k gaming?
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I initially build my PC in 2011 and since then I have upgraded everything except for the case, motherboard and CPU.

I currently have a
Case: CM Storm Scout
Mobo: Gigabyte Z68M-D2H
CPU: i5 2500
RAM: 8GB DDR3
PSU: CM V850
GPU: Nvidia GTX 970
Storage: Kingston SSD + Toshiba HDD

Now I would like to do the big upgrade and get a new Case + Mobo + CPU at the same time. I would like a CPU that is going to be relevant for some years, just like my 2500 served me so well since 2011.

Budget is not a problem, I live outside USA and I don't really play many games these days. Could Ryzen be the answer for me?

Appreciate any suggestions, thanks.
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>>59522160
s340
r7 nowish if you want productivity
r5 next month if you want budget
an AsRock or MSI Tomahawk

if you are lying and want purely gaymen then go 7700k
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With CEMU, Citra, and the PS3 emulator coming. How much would one need to spend for a gaming PC that could run these emulators at a very good performance?
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>>59522144
Maybe 4K/60hz
But at 144hz there is no card caplable of getting 144fps at high/ultra on demanding gaymz
Its better if the anon gets the Ti
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>>59522195
>he doesn't have 3x 1080 ti

Remove yourself from my presence poor fag
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>>59522195
Do you literally want him to waste money? There aren't even any aftermarket models out yet.
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>>59522189
Any overclocked quad core or better I guess
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>>59522160
R7 is pretty good for productivity and editing if you are into that. Really good bang for your buck and comes with a cooler.
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I'm currently planning out a PC that I plan to use for desktop/gaming first, but still use for slightly more demanding productivity such as Photoshop, Sony Vegas and FL Studio. Should I get an i5 7600k or an i7 7700 (non k)?
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So I need help picking out a computer case. Want one with a window (maybe tempered glass? I don't know), ATX mid tower, preferably under $100. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am super indecisive about my own aesthetics but I am worried about fucking up my own USB cables if the panel is on top of the case.

Anyways, I would love some help on this to decide for me.
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>>59522580
>windowed
you don't need that, get a fractal r4 or r5 with no window and sound cancelling foam
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Advice greatly appreciated:
setup so far:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q9y6xY

Setup for work in animation, some video editting and gaming on the side. Not a hardcore gamer but enthusiast. Mostly 2D animation, Flash, After Effects, ToonBoom, etc.

What I need:
>Tons of RAM (32 for now, upgradeable to 128)
>Very Good Nvidia GPU: 1060 1070 1080 or titan only.
>Top CPU: Was aiming for i76850K but its too expensive. So i7 6800k it is. (This from Adobe After Effects recommendations)

>I don't care much for the case as long as it looks ok and everything fits in.
>I don't know much about PSU

Would like to keep it under 2000€ but its also my main tool for work, so needs to be robust, upgrade able and last for as long as possible.

All this in Spain, EU. Any thoughts?
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g4560 + rx470 is the perfect budget combo.
Prove me wrong.
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>>59522878
Rx 470 gets bottlenecked hard. Gtx 1060 3gb is better based on digital foundries review
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>>59522888
1060 is overpriced for what little gain it gives
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>>59522842
Why not RYZEN?
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>>59522907
To be honest I don't know AMD. I've used Intel since the beginning of times.
Also, every place I've checked for After Effects animation and rendering recommended specs, they go for intel as well.

But I'm open!
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>>59521761
oh is that why their shit is always sold out? because no one buys it?
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>>59522937

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_1700_review,10.html

One of the 1st results on Google, you also have benches for rendering.

You could also try looking at other benchmarks. On shittly threaded apps with no other background tasks the 7700k is better because of better clocks.

1800k is a meme imho
1700k not sure
1700 best bang for the buck

All can be OCed, 1700k might be better binned than 1700, but all 3 SKUs hit a wall at around 3.9-4GHz

Mobos are pretty shit atm from what I heard, but Gigabyte is decent.

Also you need fast RAM, like ~3GHz fast and most ASUS boards fail to OC the RAM to that high. Not sure about AsRock/MSI.

PS: I consider all the X chips a meme in the current state of the socket, since they all hit a wall at 4GHZ and it's not worth it to try and crank it up higher vs the Voltage you put in the board.

TLDR: If you do a lot of multitasking I think a R7 1700 with ~3GHz RAM would be better than a 6800K

>>t. fag wanting to upgrade to a Gigabyte AB Gaming and R5 1600
>>Thanks for the rupees
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>>59522897
It's only like £20 more than the 470
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>>59523024
very interesting. I'll try a setup with 1700 and see how it looks on the numbers. Thanks Anon.
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I've done a couple builds, including my own current PC, is it still more cost-efficient these days to build your own PC?
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>>59523110
>>59523024
Well, a similar setup but with Razen 7 1700 instead of i7 6800k, drops the price like 120€. And benchmarks say its faster for my needs too.

The only problem: my local parts supplier is out of AMD mobos for Razen. And I'm kind of in a hurry...
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>>59523318
My friends parents want a new PC, he will be using it too, probably wants to be able to play games.
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>>59523326
Yeah mobos sold like hot cakes.

How local is the supplier? You could just ask for it to be shipped from a town over or something like that. Or buy from Amazon
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>>59523326
>>59523349

What chipset do you want?

Panning on overclocking? B350 and X370 support it, X boards might have better VRMs.

Planning on going SLI? Then only X supports that.

Planning on a lot of storage? X has more CPU lanes so you can shove more shit into it on the M.2 lanes/Expansion slots.

Also do keep in mind the RAM Frequency bit when it comes to cost as it actually makes a difference for Ryzen.
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>>59523106
>£
I'm sorry for you
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>>59523401
I wasn't thinking in overclocking at all.

I was all into my i7 6800k until I came here. Now I'm going through a whole new world of possibilites.
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So making my first gaymin PC from scratch. Ive gone through Logical increments and am wondering what you guys think so far. I also am quite ignorant on alot of things like the case and am unsure as to which case to purchase.
My budgets around 1-1.3k canadian fun bux and im hoping not to go to the maximum but i dont wanna have to upgrade anytime soon. So far i have https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/x8wLHN it for whatever reason doesnt have the price on the GPU but its about 510$ making the total 1100ish so far.
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>>59523545
not showing price because it is no longer available.
do you have the other parts of your pc already? if so post stats. you can't use a computer without a motherboard.
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aussie with a budget of around $1500

thoughts?
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>>59523471
6800k seems not worth it imho. You have to buy into x99 and Skylake-E will launch later this year.
If you find AMD's reputation shit, I'd just buy a 7700k with a cheap mobo and upgrade later this year.
Overall:

1700>=1700x>7700k>6800k

There's also a thing to say for the R5s that launch at the start of April, bot no benches and for you the jump from 6cores to 8cores might be worth it.
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>>59523659
I'm retarded, swapped out the thing that wasnt compatibly and heres the new list.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KTx8Cy
My original post
>So making my first gaymin PC from scratch. Ive gone through Logical increments and am wondering what you guys think so far. I also am quite ignorant on alot of things like the case and am unsure as to which case to purchase.
My budgets around 1-1.3k canadian fun bux and im hoping not to go to the maximum but i dont wanna have to upgrade anytime soon.
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>>59523687
>>i5 into the trash

Save up for an i7 or Ryzen. You won't be able to keep anything open in the background with just 4 threads
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>>59523718
Thanks for your input

i7 7700K 4.2 ghz was also a (cheaper) option. Got a bit scared off it cause it wouldn't support more than 64 gb RAM, which seems to be also the case with the Ryzen mobos I'v been checking around here.

I fantisize about 128gb RAM someday.
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>>59523736
Why are you spreading misinformation?

I'm currently torrenting Hitman season 1 and installing/extracting forza horizon 3 (fuck MS and SQENIX DRM) whilst watching youtube and lurking the chans and also talking to a friend on steam with no lag or anything with my Haswell i5. This is probably more intensive than what the average user will do. Only if you're doing some super intensive production work will an i5 not be satisfactory for general use and also gaming.
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>>59523793
With pleasure.
Please do still check out benches and shit. I'm just an anon and could be spewing bullshit.

>>59523864
Sorry if you think I'm spreading misinformation, it's just that from the few 7700k benches with CPU usage that I saw, the CPU was pegged at about 50-70% depending on game/resolution and thought an i5 could barely keep up.

I'm currently running an i3 and have to literally close all my shit if I wanna game at 60+ fps
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What do you guys think of this cooler?
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>>59523318
Only if you play gayms or edit video or use Autocad.
You can get an email/MS office/netflix/4chan machine prebuilt for $450. Building yourself only becomes better at around $800
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>when are the $200 vega GPUs coming out REEEEEEEE
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>>59522586
>$110 for a case
Why?
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Thanks to some lads here I'm upgrading from a 750 to a RX 480, I have one last question: I never changed from Nvidia to AMD, I only did upgrades from the same brand. Is there anything I should do? Like something to fully delete the previous drivers?
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Guys I´m looking a heatsink for my 7700K, got 3 options the noctua NHD15, Be quiet Dark Rock 3 or Dark Rock 3 Pro


Also I need (5) 140 mm fans, should I opt for the Be quiet SilentWings 3, Noctua NF-A14 or Noctua NF-A14 FLX

Silence is one of my biggest priorities
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Speaking of intel being jews-
>Considering changing my 3570T for a 6700T
>think about saving 15$ or so by going with the asrock H270ITX/ AC instead of Z270ITX/AC
>3000mhz Gskill ram i want want run full speed unless i get the Z270 board
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>>59523687
You're adding a good $100 by posting from 5 different companies.

Unlocked processor with an asrock h270 board and a mediocre (at best) cooler.

16gb of memes.

ssd is shit, so is the hdd and power supply.

Only things you should keep is cpu + gpu + case.
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>>59525460
>want 3000mhz ram
>not overclocking
>limited cpu anyway
>in a budget build

shiggydiggy
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>>59523318
If it's component for component, yes.
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>>59523687
everything is shit.

why not post link and show total price also?
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>>59524277
That was with a GTX 1080, this anon only is getting a GTX 1070 so it really shouldn't be an issue anywhere other than certain high intensity programs or the odd CPU heavy game, where even then it should be good enough.
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Should I get an i5 7500 or 6600k for 1080p?
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>>59525819
why are those your options?

you'd need a better psu and motherboard for overclocking.
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Current build:

i7 6700K @ 4.6Ghz - 1.33v
Meme 212 cooler (dual nocuta in push/pull)
AMD Fury X (minor OC, I forget clock)
64Gb DDR4 @ 3400 (I forget timings)
MSI Z170A Krait "gaming" (looks great, but 5/10 mobo at best.Sticking with Gigabyte next time)
EVGA 850w PSU (higher end, best PSU of all fucking time imo)
Fractal R4 Ti

I primarily do animation in TB Harmony, occasionally I use 3DS Max, and I also do high level audio editing with Mixcraft 8 (under fucking rated software imo). I also do intermediate level video editing in Sony Vegas and/or Cyberlink Powerdirector, as well as video call training and collaboration via OBS / Skype (not by preference) for work.

I have to be able to use contour editor in Harmony with almost imperceptible lag (historically AMD is better for this, but high level Nvidia cards can somewhat compete, if you're careful not to overload it), provide quick, reliable video encoding, manage high sample rate/ low latency audio recording with no artefacting or crashing (using Scarlett 18i20 2nd gen), and run 3ds Max with little to no lag.

I probably need to invest in a professional video card, but I don't know much about them. The Fury X has done admirably, pretty much handling everything I can toss on it, although my workloads are getting bigger, and productivity sometimes requires I have 3 or more hardware intensive applications running simultaneously.

Wat do? Wait for Vega? Check out Ryzen? 1080TI? Get a professional level GPU and not eat this month?
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>>59525911
All the people here will do is link you to a googled article.

You know enough to make that decision for yourself, I don't see the necessity of asking /g/.
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>>59518944
Have a 350D. It is indeed a solid case apart from the top vent not having a cover. Also mine creaks occasionally when it heats up during gaming
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I snatched a used 980ti hybrid for $340 shipped. Gonna sell my 1060 for $200. Pro tip do not buy the mini 1060s unless it's the evga superclocked
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>>59525961
I was hoping to catch a fellow professional, since I don't know a thing about pro level cards
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I have a i5 2500k would it be worth it to do a minor upgrade- CPU, MB, RAM for a couple hundred dollars or wait and completely rebuild for 500+? I only do light gaming and have a rs7950. In US
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Upcoming ITT: poorfags with poor excuses
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>>59525904
I don't plan on overclocking but I really what a good cpu to maybe finally achieve 60fps in gta 5. All the others are either too shitty or too expensive. I'm not buying amd ever again.
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In the market for a new gaming build, shooting for Gsync 1440p/144hz.

Is this a good time for a build like this or am I going to get more bang for my buck by waiting ~6 months?
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Does anyone know of any testing done for Sony Vegas with the Ryzen?

I am seriously tempted by the supposed rendering power it offers compared to a more "safe" choice like 7700k. Of course, sometimes you have complete meme bugs such as the program not being able to use more than 4 threads or whatever.
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Say I can get an RX470 for the $20 more than the price some fool is willing to pay for my R9380x. For what I've seen, the RX470 is 10-20% better than R9380x, so, do you think it's worth the hassle, /g/?
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>>59526717
Yes it will outperform a 7700k in a task like rendering
the 1700 is the best cpu for it right now that isn't 1000$
plus you can just do stuff like asigning 4 cores to rendering and 4 cores for gaymen so you can do a bunch of shit, also VMs
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Can some1 post the flowchart some anon posted about choosing a monitor following budget and refresh rate needs ?
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>>59526904
No save for the fury while it's 250
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>>59518464
>AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
If you're living outside the glorious US of A, you're not living in a country at all.
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I'm wondering if I should upgrade or build a new pc. My current build is from 2011 using an i5 2500k oc'd to 4.5ghz. The gpu is a SAPPHIRE FleX Radeon HD 6870.

The motherboard is an asrock z68 gen3 extreme3. Windows 7 8gb ram with an ssd.

The processor has served me well and still seems to be strong. I'm not sure if I want to build a new pc with a new processor or upgrade my current one with a new gpu, some more ram, and maybe a new psu.

Do you think it's worth putting money into my existing pc or should I just rebuild?
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what new monitor should I get?

recently built a new PC with a 1080 but I'm still using my old 1080p 60 Hz IPS panel
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How long will an i5-7500 last me? Or should ai just wait for Ryzen?
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R8 this bitch IM planning on it lasting a long time so I figure a 1700 is nice I could get an i5 for 100 less but idk wat do g I just want to play through the the Witcher 3 which I bought on release and still haven't played cause I couldn't do so on my now broken computer. Also lots of virtual machine use and stuff
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>>59527326
Fuck me forgot the build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vXF79W
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>>59522042
Reee that fucking motherboard has built in wifi already
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MmBMr7
Feedback please on this? Gonna just be hooked up to a 72" cheap element 1080p TV. Using primarily for emulating old console games like nes/snes/n64/ps1&2/GameCube/sega and more. Then also some movie/shows/general YouTube and shit
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Im a normie who buys prebuilt because im scared im going to break something, but i am uncertain of what is the best choice here. Will changing the HDD to a 250 gb SSD improve my gaming experience? or will it be a waste of money?

Is it worth changing this

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5'' HDD SATA 6.0Gb/s, 7200RPM, 64MB cache, 3.5''

To this?

Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SSD
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>>59527619
>improve my gaming experience
all it will change is load times which many would consider an improvement
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>>59527619
How big is your HDD? Is your OS also in the HDD?
Switching to am SSD for gaming will only decrease loading screen times and unpacking of uncompress audio files for those >50GB games.
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>>59527540
I'm pretty sure that build won't be capable of Gamecube emulation and if it does the performance will be poor.
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>>59522189
Search for "G4560 Mario Kart", you can see someone playing said game on Cemu pretty fine with just the Pentium.

With that said I don't think Zelda would play as nicely with just a Pentium, and I have no idea about Citra since I don't even think any games work on it. PS3 I assume would need a solid PC.
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>>59527730
Primary storage is

Samsung PM961 SSD 256GB M.2 NVMe V3 TLC, Polaris, up to 2800/1100MB/s read/write

>>59527643
Yea improving load times is definetely worth 80 bucks, especially for total war warhammer.
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>>59527540
Go Pentium G. -> >>59527751
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I built my desktop with a friend who knew what he was doing and I mostly helped so I don't remember what do to. Now the harddrive is full, the CD drive isn't working, and I want to see if anything else needs to be upgraded besides just getting more storage space. I don't have an infinite budget but I have Prime so if I can get the parts cheapest from amazon that would be ideal.

tl;dr I want another internal harddrive but not sure which is a good one and want to know if anything else should be upgraded (RAM, graphics card, etc.).
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>>59518464
I wanted to build a midranger this summer with the upcoming 4core ryzen cpus (if they are worth it) but I'm confused right now since the prices for RAM increased so much. What happened? Did the russians hack the ram factories or what?
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>>59527540
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cnvPGf
Revised based on responses. This is pretty much the max I wanted to budget for this as well. Feedback?
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Is a low end ssd much better than an a high Hdd?
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>>59519443
Dont spend so much on a cooler and ram. The stock is fine and ram speed doesnt really matter at games. Otherwise its pretty good
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Disregarding price, GTX 1060 vs. GTX 980 vs. RX 480?
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>>59528490

480 for the extra vram.
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>>59525511
I like the higher number,my ram is at 2000mhz now.
But the main thing is the silver heatspreaders for a e s t h e t i c s
Also
>budget build
>spending $250 on a cpu
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>>59528490
RX 470 if you want the best price for performance or of those three the 480.
I mean shit there is little difference between it and RX 480.
I know you said "disregarding price" but I've seen RX 470's at $110 and 480's at $160 frequently.
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>>59528621
>>59528499
So I basically have these 3 builds in front of me:
470 w/ SSD - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j6JhZ8
980 - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VnPPGf (got a nice deal)
1060 - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JbmbxY

I'm hoping that I can OC the 470 to 480 levels. Which one makes the most sense out of those 3?
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>g4560+ gtx1070 for 1440p or 4K

Is it good enough or stutterfest?
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Is the ASRock Z270 Pro4 ATX board any good or should I spend the extra $30 MSI Z270-A PRO?
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>>59528737
You should say fuck both and get a Gigabyte board.
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>>59528723
bottlenecked by the cpu imo.
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>>59528723
i5 and a gtx 1060 with a nice overclock sounds like a much better overall system. Some games you will be fine, but some will be terribly bottlenecked.

Anyway, here's my current build : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cbrBxY
tl;dr 6600k @ 4.2ghz and Rx 480. Using a 60hz regular 1080p monitor right now. I'd really like to get a higher refresh rate freesync monitor, since I have a lot of unused horsepower. The 75hz ones are significantly cheaper than the 144hz ones, but I'm worried that the 75hz won't really feel like an upgrade. Thoughts? I do play Overwatch competitively, so there's that.
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>>59529041

>1060
>1440p let alone 4k
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My monitor is 1080p 60hz but I want a good future proof build so i7 7700k/1070 or i5 7600k/rx 480 8gb? Leaning towards the first one.
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Someone linked some $15 mouse by I think Microsoft, I don't remember. I can't find the link anymore, anyone has it?

I'm looking for simple mouse + keyboard, cheap, but not shitty stuff either. Advice please?
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>>59529270
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>>59529173
>future proof build
Let this meme die. Overspending on your parts will not give you more life out of them. Pick a resolution, a target FPS in the type of games you want to play. Spend whatever you are comfortable with in that price tier.
A good quality Hard drive, power supply,case, cpu cooler and probably your cpu will all last you years and years. However, motherboards can die fairly easily, graphics cards go outdated quickly, fans can die or need maintenance (loose bearings etc).
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>>59529164
I'm not going to lie, I didn't even look at the 4k part. If you're playing at 4k I don't recommend anything lower than an overclocked i5. If you're happy with 30-40 fps most of the time I guess a gtx 1070 is fine. It still seems like a wonky out of balance build though.
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>>59529386
1080p ultra with 60 fps or above for games like Arma 3, Gmod, Rust, Ark, Witcher 3, Dayz
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>>59526717
As of now, multicore is the exception even in some more predictable programs, "safe" isnt talking about the brand, it's talking about performance per program, fast cores will always be important, hopefully more cores becomes more important in the next few years too
I'm a phone poster and I was warned
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>>59526608
>he actually photoshopped on the Ti
1080Ti / 10
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>>59529504
get the 7600k. As for graphics card, look up (preferably recent) benchmarks for recent games.

I'm running a rx 480 right now and get a pretty solid 60+ fps in Witcher 3 but I don't know about those others you listed. I was under the impression that Gmod runs on a potato.
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>>59529613
Arma 3 would definitely benefit from a 7700k as would most "work" programs
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>>59529613
>>59529626
So i7 7700k and rx 480?
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>>59529642
Id be happy with that at 1080p
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NYrdzM

I want to make a mini PC build because I travel somewhat frequently and moving behemoth cases is proving impractical.
Just want to make sure everything fits in the case and it won't heat up too much
got the CPU for free
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>>59529670
Thank you
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>>59527856
Bump
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>>59527856
>>59529929
Budget?
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>>59529993
I don't have an exact budget, but probably no more than $500 for everything that I need. First I need to see if you guys think I need anything. I only know that I need another internal harddrive because it's full.
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>>59529929

Fuck sake anon.

>overclock your cpu until it whines like a japanese porn star
> get a 470 or 480
> get an ssd as a boot drive
>reinstall windows to clean out all your shit
>for HDDs used as storage any old shit will do for the most part
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>>59530155
Ssd imo
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>>59530180
>overclock your cpu
How and why? My CPU can't even handle running OBS and emulating without giving me a BSOD.

>get a 470 or 480
this one? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137082

>>59530315
>ssd as a boot drive
Any SSD or is there one that owuld go with my current build/is cheap? I rmemeber I never got an SSD because they cost way more and didn't have as much storage back then.

>reinstall windows to clean out all your shit
My windows was pirated to begin with, so I'd have to find a way to get another pirated copy to install somehow.

>HDDs used as storage any old shit will do
I want to access the stuff fairly regularly but I just ran out of room after 6 or so years.
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>>59530315
Oh and I forgot to add do you think the SSD is all I need and all my other specs look good? Or is something very outdated and I need to upgrade? I've been having issues with the OBS stuff like I mentioned and I think that's either the CPU struggling or needing more RAM because both get high.
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>>59530338

>How

Through BIOS

>why?

You have a K cpu so you can and its free performance.

>My CPU can't even handle running OBS and emulating without giving me a BSOD.

You're probably getting fucked by vdroop.
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Which card is better
>Asus Strix
>MSI Gaming
>Gigabyte Extreme Gaming
?
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>>59530338
You can up the speeds for better performance and/or up the voltage for better CPU stability, provided you have the thermals to do it
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>>59530459
I've never overclocked before, would following something like this work? http://www.techradar.com/how-to/computing/how-to-overclock-your-cpu-1306573

>vdroop
Since this is my first time doing any of this, what should I do to prevent it and be able to overclock successfully?

>>59530494
I don't have any crazy kind of cooling, just two fans in the case but the tower is near a wall so it doesn't have the best airflow on the outside. Instead has proper cable management so that aspect shouldn't be an issue.
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>>59516266
Sorry about the late reply, I went to sleep, then was busy for the whole day while completely forgetting about getting a reply!


When I said that I've only owned/used shitty laptops I wasn't lying, so unfortunately I can't really tell you what games I enjoy playing.


However, here's a list of games I've been wanting to play lately, hope that helps you

Most BioWare games

Overwatch

DayZ(maybe)

Tera

Blade and Soul

Bioshock

Honey Select

A lot of RPGs

Pixel games

Until Dawn

Life is strange


I realise that the list is long and not consistent in game types, but that's the best I could do...
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>>59530571

>would following something like this work?

Yeah but we warned - start low and creep up clocks on stock voltage until it crashes during either Intel Burn Test or prime95. Those two programs but obscene load on the cpu and can even cause throttling at stock.

>what should I do to prevent it and be able to overclock successfully?

Depends on motherboard for the specifics, but in general turning up load line calibration a notch never hurts.

The main thing is to keep an eye on temperature as motherboards get toasty fast under stress test loads. That is, of course, assuming your motherboard lets you overclock (you dodn't stick an unlocked cpu on a board that can't overclock right?).

Pic semi-related - me pushing my now old 8320e right to its thermal limits (in my case the otherboard would cause a hard lock if it goes over 70c).
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>>59530672
Well you're in luck because I happen to be here.

CPU : with your budget you have the choice between :
- a Pentium G4650 (Kaby Lake) which is a dual core with hyperthreading (which means it's virtually a 4 cores), it's very cheap ($60) and is currently the most power you get for your money. Of course it's still currently the least powerful Intel CPU. It can run all current games fine, but won't age so well as you may imagine.
- an i5, either 6400, 6500, 6600 (Skylake) or 7500 / 7600 (Kaby Lake). Forget about K versions, they're more powerful and can be overclocked but they're more expensive and need more expensive motherboards to operate as well (also possible to throw in faster but more expensive RAM). For you a non-K CPU will be plenty already.

Motherboard : you only need to bother about B150 or B250 boards since you won't overclock, so :
B150 = Skylake
B250 = Kaby Lake
I noted above the correct compatibility. Don't fuck this up like 75% of people or you'll just meet a black screen upon turning ON your PC.

RAM : 2133mhz or 2400mhz. B150/250 mobos and thus non-K CPUs don't handle more (since more means overclocking your RAM).

Graphic Card : I'm not the most knowledgeable here, but ask around, people in this thread have been talking about it. Look at other people's builds and make your own opinion.

Make a build from what I taught you and we'll correct the rest. Use https://pcpartpicker.com (pick UK if you're from the UK).
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>>59530708
>Depends on motherboard for the specifics
I have my motherboard specs here >>59527856, or do you need more information than this provides?

>assuming your motherboard lets you overclock
I'm fairly confident mine does, but I don't remember honestly. Can I check that without opening the case?

>thermal limits
Speccy doesn't tell me the limits on my parts. Or do I have to look them all up individually somewhere?
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>>59529747
That case is REALLY fucking small.

Are you sure its what you want? Could you just do a mini atx build?

Try and get a triple fan video card instead.
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>>59530802

>do you need more information than this provides?

I'm not clued up on my Intel sockets, so i'll defer this to others but just google the board and see what falls out.

>Speccy doesn't tell me the limits on my parts.

Its 90c for Intel chips. Its why the stock cooler is fucking useless and should never, ever be used for overclocking as it will barely contain their chips under torture loads at stock.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1198504/complete-overclocking-guide-sandy-bridge-ivy-bridge-asrock-edition

Give this a long read. Sleep on it and read it again so you become versed in what shit means what before you do the /g/ thing of screaming YOLO and slamming 1.45v through your cpu.
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>>59530798
>Pentium G4650 (Kaby Lake)
G4560*
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LyZ6xY

Need some advice for this, mainly because I am stuck between getting the NZXT S340, the Enthoo Pro M, and the Eclipse P400S (which is on the build list right now). Have a budget of $1200 and will mainly be using this for gaymen and chinese cartoon viewing.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sjxpM8
any improvements
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>>59531100
>i3
Just get a Pentium or an i5.
>mobo
I would honestly suggest MSI's PC Mate instead.
>RAM
Go dual channel 8GB of RAM instead.
>HDD
You can get a WD for cheaper and with better quality.
>GPU
Don't get the EVGA GPU. I would suggest the MSI or Gigabyte ones instead of EVGA (though I personally prefer the RX 480, just get the one that is cheaper where you live)
>PSU
Can't hurt to at least get Gold (and fully modular if you can afford it)
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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rqXjgL any input as to what I should change? Obviously the 1060 is the weakpoint but its what I already own currently as a cheap upgrade
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>>59531197
You might run into a bottleneck with your CPU. I would recommend the 7600K if you aren't getting Ryzen.
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>>59531217
im assuming this was meant for >>59531100
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what's a good cooler for the i7-7700k boyos?
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rx 460 or 1050 ti?
also I have i5 3570, is it worth getting a 1150 board to upgrade?
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>>59530798
Oh wow, your reply surprisingly quick, thanks!

(I'll probably have to start a file that'll include everything you've just said to me, since so far it looks extremely helpful and thorough)

This is only semi related, but- is it possible to have more than one hard drive on your computer? I have my sister's old PC case that I used for about 2 weeks to store my pictures/other things, but it stopped responding/turning on (I think it's the graphics card that went bad) and I was wondering if I could get my files back by adding them to my (hopefully soon to be owned) new pc and transferring them to my new hard drive without messing anything up

I'll use pcpartpicker tomorrow, since it's late and I want my head to be clear for this.so I don't make any rushed mistakes

Once again, thank you, you've been very helpful with giving me an idea of what I should do!
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>>59528751
Why?
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>>59531284
No...it was meant for >>59531197
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>>59518464
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DfzqQV
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DfzqQV/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($327.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS IX APEX EATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($291.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-4266 Memory ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($93.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Transcend 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Toshiba 450GB 2.5" 10025RPM Internal Hard Drive ($325.66 @ Jet)
Storage: Toshiba 450GB 2.5" 10025RPM Internal Hard Drive ($325.66 @ Jet)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card ($698.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Inwin H-TOWER ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($98.56 @ OutletPC)

+Asus 240 Hz 1080p monitor
+ekwb custom liquid cooling
+Kubuntu/Win10
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>>59518464
>>Note: Win7 and 8.1 cannot be installed on a 200 series chipset
Does this mean for a gaming build with a b250 I'm stuck with W10?
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I've been told i7-7700k would be pretty overkill these days and that I should just got for the i5-7600k

I'm only really gonna be gayming to put pressure on the processor anyway, so is this correct?
I see the two anons in this thread arguing about the difference in threads but I'm not entirely sure how that'd effect me
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>>59530933
>Its 90c for Intel chips
Upon testing my OBS and Dolphin emulation setup I got a BSOD when the temp doesn't go above 76c, so I don't know what that means for my rig or what the real problem is.
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Making a gaming PC, my first time building one actually. Ive read through most of the recommended reading for this shit and above is what i got so far. i got 1.5k canadian to spend on this thing and are looking for best bang for my buck. I guess for reference im trying to get playable frames in games like ARK and arma3 while keeping the graphics nice and high.
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Is the ASUS MX239H any good?
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>>59533054
no
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>>59531195
GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G or GTX 1060 ARMOR 6G OCV1?
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>>59533562
The GTX 1060 Gaming X. Better cooling and doesn't have a shitty design.
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>>59533515
Why?
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Should I buy this monitor? I am using an nvidia graphics card.
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>>59533897
The monitor in question. 27" 2K for $369. I believe its a TN panel
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>>59533897
>>59533925
if you like it then get it. you'll be losing out on the adaptive sync but ultimately if the quality of the monitor is good then there's no reason you should pass it up just because of a minor thing like that.

i have a 1070 and i'm going to get this AOC 4k 75hz monitor with freesync. nvidia should hopefully allow for freesync compatibility soon enough anyway otherwise they'll be cornered by amd and intel.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8TVJGf
Am I doing good?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VtJYqk

Is this alright for a build around $700? I might not get the optical drive and just get an external one later.
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>>59535334
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VtJYqk
I'd recommend skipping the optical too, they are really loud slow and useless. Having an external for when/if ever need one is better. Other than that it looked solid.
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I want to build a server primarily for Plex and as a general NAS. I'm having a really hard time settling on what RAID scheme to use and how to backup the server itself.
The loose framework I have right now is i3-7100, a cheap but good B250 motherboard with 6 SATA ports for the storage and an M.2 NVME slot for the OS, hotswap bays/raid cage to make things easier in the event of needing to replace a failing drive.
I need help deciding between RAID 10 and RAID 6, and whether to go with a motherboard implementation or a software one and which software solution if that's the way to go. Either way, I want SMART monitoring to work, and I've heard that some RAID controllers interfere with it.
I also need help figuring out a way to backup the server config and storage. My current thought for the OS is maybe getting a motherboard with 2 M.2 slots and running the SSDs in RAID 1 and periodically backing that up to some USB thumbdrives. But for backing up the storage, all I can think of that would be feasible for me is to periodically back it up to a hard drive that is large enough to store the entire RAID array.
I also briefly thought about going with a motherboard that supports ECC memory, but I had the feeling that was over-engineering for a home server.
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>>59532099
You're fine, I just got one too and it's great. With my 20$ hyper t4 I am getting a stable 4.8 overclock and that lets me play basically anything modern.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2gyJGf

Please replace the Kabylake and Z270 board with the equivalent in the next gen of Intel also I will be buying a 1080Ti (Non FE) just there any aftermarket ones listed yet

Mechanical Keyboard with custom keycaps 156 usd
LED Strips 24usd
Custom Mousepad 25usd
Microboard-M340CLZ-34 700usd
Samsung 1Tb SSD 325usd
Philips SHP9500 70usd
V-MODA BoomPro 30usd
Buffalo LinkStation 220 NAS(Gonna be used with the 4Tb´s HDD´s) 95usd
VideoSecu ML531BE 25usd

Gaymen at 3440*1440p
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>march 2017 and AMD hasn't even announced a high end GPU yet
ffs, why?
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Can grab a 980ti for around 300 burgers to upgrade from an r9 290. Solid?
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>>59535626
>inb4
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Built my first rig last week and it smells when playing taxing games. Should I be concerned? 5 or 10 minutes later and it goes away but starts smelling again an hour into the session. Not unbearable but not subtle enough to go unignored either.

Shouldn't the break in have happened by now?
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>>59536188

I hope it does have a cool backplate like a rumour suggests.
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>>59536390
Does your case have sound dampening?
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>>59535334
get an i5
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>>59536695
No, smells like the exhaust fan after I got done opening it up and putting my nose to just about every component. Nothing from the GPU/PSU which were my main concerns and everything is within normal temps - 50c CPU/39c mobo/65C GPU so nothing on the overheating side.
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>>59519112

better thermals, ,maybe. but thats a maybe. the rest is just stupid. G sync on a 1060? why lol?
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>>59530869
would a 3rd fan on the card really make a difference?
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>>59533009
You don't need a Z170 if you're not getting an unlocked processor.
Also, you'll want to get a 270 board if you're going with Kaby Lake. Any H270 board should be fine since you won't be overclocking.

For gaming you probably won't need 16GB of memory, so you could scale that down to 8 if you wanted to cut additional costs.

Get a better power supply. Read the OP and check the pastebin, there should be a nice list of trusted makes and models.

You may also want a case.
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>>59536898
So this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Q6Tqk instead?

I could spend a little more if I need to, but I don't know how much it'll help.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nTLtRG
I think I'll be streaming and rendering with this, i'm aware that the z170 is an overly expensive meme board but i'm fine with that.
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>>59533009
Don't buy windows, and if it's a kabylake build it'll need windows 10 instead.
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I need advice mofos trying to spend the least amount of money where I can play this Witcher 3 ultra 1080p 1070? Or should I just get 1060?
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Why are AMDrones so fucking obnoxious?

>video about the GTX 1050 Ti
>*screech* BUT THE 470 EXISTS REEEEEEEEE *screeeeech*
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The shop I ordered my i7-7700K from also sent me a tube of arctic paste MX-2. Pretty cool of them.
My H7 cooler also came in with paste ("CP7").

Which one should I use? Is the Arctic paste as good as everyone says?
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Ok well this is what I got I wanted to spend less but Im just gonna go for 1440p
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FB3qQV
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Should I wait to buy a ~$350 CPU?

I bought a Intel i7 7700k and an Asus 270e mobo.. And I haven't opened any of it yet and I kind of had it on my mind that if AMD release some new chipsets that heavily compete with Intel soon, then Intel will try to one up AMD very soon after or lower their prices in general..

Should I just return my combo and wait it out for a bit?
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>>59540496
mx-2
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>>59540189
i could max out witcher 3 with my overclocked 980 with pretty much a locked 60 fps at most times so an overclocked 1060 should be capable of the same since they're pretty similar in terms of performance.
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>>59540654
get a used 1080 instead of a new 1070.

the difference in performance is huge for a relatively small increase in price.
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>>59540663
That intel is overkill for anything you want to do.
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>>59540876
I like overkill
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>>59540663
7700k is 300 dollars at micro center.

you should try and find it for 300.
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Will be starting a new military-themed build soon and need some reccomendations for parts to use. Will already be using the AsRock Z270 SuperCarrier mobo, the Corsair C70 Military Green case, and the Deepcool Captain 240EX White liquid cooler.

Anything that fits this theme?
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>>59518464
What RAM should I get for a 1700X?

I was looking at 3200MHz, but there aren't that many 2x8GB on any motherboard's QVL that actually run at that speed (without being downgraded).
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I bought a Asus Prime B250-Pro and a Samsung SSD 850 Evo 500GB M.2.
The BIOS or USB ubuntu won't detect the SSD anywhere.
When I talked to Asus support I was referred to the SSD not being present on this list:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/PRIME_B250-PRO/Prime-B250-PRO_Devices_report.pdf
The 250GB version of the SSD is in the list and eveything else I've installed is not on the list.

Am I fucked?
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>>59541953
What about 3000mhz RAM?
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Now I have i5 2400, if I make new build with g4560, how will it be compared to 2400 in everyday tasks like music converting, browsing etc?
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>>59542146
There aren't any that I can find on https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/ (I'm from Australia)

http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_ga-ab350-gaming3_e.pdf

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html#support-mem
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>>59542185
You'd probably only get slightly more performance for games which only use single core speed and lose over the rest.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-2400-vs-Intel-Pentium-G4560/803vs3892

It wouldn't be worth it at all. Keep your money and upgrade to a solid i5 or a 7700, or later this year for Coffee Lake (which will (just) be 7-15% better than Kaby Lake).
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>>59542185
Or wait for Ryzen 5.
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>>59542343
Allright, probably the best decision
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How much DPI do I really need in a mouse for gaming?
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Best silent/performance cooler that doesnt interfere with RAM clearance?
I have 100usd and will be used with a 7700K
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Hello friends. I am looking to upgrade my PC. I line in the USA. I built this thing three years ago this week. I mostly use it for gaming and general purpose type things. I was thinking of upgrading my graphics card. I don't want to take the time to overclock my CPU, I don't really give a shit about that. Does anyone have suggestions with regards to my current build and what can be improved? I'm working a shitty fast food job right now to get myself through school but I'll have an internship as a sys admin at the end of the Summer so I should have some more money coming in the future.
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So would an i5 7600k be enough to run two 1080 ti's in sli using a 2560x1440 monitor at 165hz? or would i need an i7?

i am planning on watercooling this build and overclocking it a bit
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>>59543520
Ssd imo
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>>59543569
>I want to spend $1600 on graphics cards alone but want to cheap out on a CPU
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I'm an illustrator interested in app performance and form factor more than anything. Gaming is a far second.


tl;dr Want to make a Mac Mini destroyer

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JKd3vV

Any suggestions? ^^^^
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>>59543823
so thats a no, it wont power the sli configuration? i'll go with an i7 then, thanks!
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>>59541552
help anyone?
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Is it better to go Intel or AMD for 1080p 144hz at max settings?
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>>59544072
Intel/NV is the best for high end gaming. Ryzen 7 gives similar results for a cheaper price and no need for a seperate chip/mobo for OCing though. Intel is the absolute best in terms of performance though.
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