/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>59517570
fpbp

>>59517570
tell me why Maki should be my waifu

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>>59517570
So I'm thinking of getting a pair of headphones for work and gym
Thinking solo 3 but open to other suggestions
>Budget
Hard budget of 250
>Location
In us
>Source
Plugging into galaxy s7
>Type of headphone
On ear, and wireless
>Open or closed
Closed, work is load and open are to flashy at the gym
>Comfort level
High priority, I'll be wearing max 16hours 5 times a week.
>Sound signature
V-shaped
>Past headphones
5 fucking pairs of Samsung ear buds
1 pair of skullcandy fmj

Just watched Metal571's video on the DT770 80 ohm's, and he raves about the sound.
Is his representation of the sound accurate?

I was debating between the DT770's and 880's.
Based on what he said the 770's sound more appealing due to their less harsh treble.

>>59517636
Because umi's mine ;)

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>>59517636
Good evening /hpg/.

>>59517636
Thighs/legs. Note: she's the waifu of tens of millions of other weebs, so you may want to reconsider.

>>59517698
>770
>less harsh treble
wot

>>59517698
770s have more harsh treble than the 880s.

>>59517698
Really? Aren't the DT770s more v-shaped than DT880s?

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>>59517570
<3 Maki.

>>59517714
Like your waifu.

Anyway, keep them coming!

>purchase HD 800s
>cannot hear the difference from mid-fi

What the fuck do I do?

>>59517698
The DT770 are closed and v-shaped, where the DT880 are open and try to be neutral (yet fail, just go HD598 or HD600 for closer results depending on budget).

>>59517742
HD 598 are pretty awful compared to the 880s

>>59517738
Spend more. Do you have an external dac/amp?

Also, brain burn-in might help. It might take weeks.

>>59517742
>just go HD598 or HD600 for closer results depending on budget).
this.. that's the truth.

>>59517749
>HD 598 are pretty awful compared to the 880s
kek'd. I have them both. 598 sound a lot better to me. treble of 880s is way too hars.

>>59517749
Awful in that sense? I have read plenty of the opposite opinion.

>>59517742
>Comparing DT880s to HD 598s

>>59517761
>Sensitive ears

Who's problem is that, anon?

>>59517761
>>59517780
There's a very distinct lack of detail in the 598s.

>>59517269
Headphones will never reproduce content that was mixed with loudspeakers(majority of music) as it was recorded to be. Hopefully some DSP fills in what headphones omit from the listening.

You can talk about frequency response accuracy on a target: the relative loudness of frequencies. If you want to keep the sound as close to the original as possible, bass extension is essential. Headphones other than earbuds don't usually suffer from lack of bass extension but roll off in bass is common given leak. Open back headphones leak by design, closed backs generally don't. Pressure leaking out gradually lowers the amplitude the lower you go in the audio band. Some planar magnetic and electrostatic headphones get around this by creating a semi air tight space around your ear, pads, baffle and the diaphragm even if the ear cup is not sealed from the back.

And as I said, clarity is vague. It doesn't refer into anything particular in the response. I would consider a neutral response to be very clear and thus have great clarity but someone else might disagree as they might consider clarity being something else.

>>59517371
You should read the studies and realize how effective equalization is given the headphone is without major issues. HD 518 was picked due to its linear and stable response. It was also easily driven by the devices used to drive them(iPads in many tests). These should be in the wiki. The listener preference stuff can be found online elsewhere too. Sean Olive's blog maybe.

>>59517373
Each headphone was recorded on a coupler first and that was used to simulate different headphones through a single pair.

>>59517359
Midbassy sound of many Sennheiser open back models. It gives them warmth, sometimes excessively so.

>>59517698
DT770s have more boosted lower bass. That balances it out. Their V-shape is more pronounced.

>>59517738
>mid-fi
Jargon. What was it?

Can't really think of a headphone that sounds like HD 800.

>>59517714
Which of those cans do you still keep around? Which of them is your favorite?

>>59517742
I'm not looking for exactly neutral.

I listen to a lot of metal, the highs and bass in those mixes are generally not as prevalent due to mid heavy guitar focus.
So I figured a V-shape would bring out the best of the mixes.

The boosted sub bass of the DT770 is pretty appealing as that region often seems to suffer in metal.

>>59517780
Lack of detail from the HD 598s.

>>59517757
NFB-11 and Darkvoice 336SE

>>59517801
Under 400$ price range

>>59517655
HD 800 is V-shaped. Dominated by the bright 6-8 KHz treble and the preceding notch in upper midrange. Broad high bass boost. It isn't a neutral headphone.

>>59517793
>>59517829
And what do you figure that detail to be exactly?

>>59517864
Price has nothing to do with how something sounds like. Fidelity isn't a term to use here.

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>>59517815
>Which of those cans do you still keep around?
All of them.

>Which of them is your favorite?
No favorite, per se, each one sounds rather different than the other, and I usually choose which headphone to use based on what I'm listening to/my current mood, if I'm on-the-go, or whatever else I'm doing.

>>59517817
>Recommending Sennheisers for metal
>Sennheisers having any detail at all

>>59517817
Try looking at DT 880s first. DT 770s might be a bit too harsh for some people.

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>>59517570
Went to a local headfi audiofool meetup yesterday. I think I was the youngest there which was weird. But, I managed to get some listening time on some great phones and amps and I talked to few guys who game me some advice. I also got to listen to Orpheus!!! The guy who organized the meet has them. Holy shit, they are nice. I only got to listen to one song because everyone wanted to listen and friends of the guy were hogging them and listening to whole albums.

I finally got the chance to listen to HD600 and LCD-2. I mention these because I currently have M50x and wanted to upgrade and these were my top choices because I can afford HD600 new and LCD-2 used. I went back and forth between them a number of times and compared them on three diff amps. The winner? HD600. Not only did it felt better on the head but it also sounded better to me. One of the guys there agreed with me, one other guy thought the opposite. YMMV.

Anyway, time to make my purchase. Thanks /hpg/!

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>>59517424
>Bass bleeding into the mids and a lack of treble.
HD 600 has treble, in comparison HE-400 has a big spike and then it rolls off, HD600 treble is well extended it's just that treble is not in your face.
And as far as midrange goes, from what I tried so far being HE-400 and HD800, HD600 has by far the most natural sounding midrange.

>anyways dude, if you're gonna talk neutral, at least talk the HD800 where it actually makes a bit more sense
Fuck no, you ever heard them live? Graph may make them seem to be neutral but they are not, with their over exaggerated soundstage, overall brightness and ringing in high frequencies. Graphs may be tempting since they are easy to compare and are easily quantifiable, but they never tell the whole story, esp when it comes to interpretation of treble since headphones are really sensitive to it.

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>>59517570
Maki is a fruit

>>59517738
If you can't hear difference (from what) then maybe try HD700, they are a bit fucked up but they do sound very distinct and if you like them you might like them a lot.

>>59517924
I listen to a shitload metal and love it on my HD600.

Used to love it on my HD598 too, but I don't use these that much anymore.

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>>59517570
I'm listening on my 13 year old HD 570's. I had to replace the earpads but otherwise they're in good condition, no cracks or loose hinges. Rate my discontinued headphones.

How are hd 569?
Can get them, m50x or m40x?
no other option since buying from a local store this is all they have
Leaning toward 569 cause they look comfortable and I got big head and ears.
How do they compare quality wise?

>>59517909
>And what do you figure that detail to be exactly?
Sennheisers aren't exactly known for having the most aggressive or detailed drivers. More laid back compared to some other headphones.

>>59518031
M40x/M50x have garbage comfort, so the 569 is a far better choice by default.

>>59518007
And the bass? The HD 598s barely have any.

>>59518031
Just the the HD 569s.

>>59518007
>>59518007
Fellow metalhead here, HD600 definitely plays nicely with the genre. Just enough low-end to satisfy and none of the harsh/edgy cymbals and guitar distortion that plague some headphones. If you're ever in the market for a closed set, check out Status Audio CB-1's. Stock pads aren't all that great but I swapped out for some angled HM5 pads and wow. Mids and highs aren't really anything special but the bass is some of the lowest and cleanest I've heard after ~10hrs break in or so. Kicks are insanely satisfying. I owned DT770/80ohm and I think the signatures are similar but there's something about the CB1 that is slightly more satisfying. I think it maybe digs a little deeper into the lows.

>>59518031
They're probably similar to the m40x but the m50x are just complete garbage.

>>59518107
Seem plenty to me. Besides idols and metal, I listen to electronica (old techno!) too. I'd say they have plenty of bass.

Any more than that and it'd get fatiguing. I don't need my skull shacked until my brain turns into juice. I'm barely a functional human being as I am.

>>59517817
>I listen to a lot of metal, the highs and bass in those mixes are generally not as prevalent due to mid heavy guitar focus.
>So I figured a V-shape would bring out the best of the mixes.

I suggest you try HD600 and DT880 to see what is best for you. Those were actually my last 2 choices when I was buying a new pair, but HD600 won after an hour of swapping on 3 songs. DT880 seemed more 'clear' but lost detail in some songs for me in comparison to HD600 and I also preferred vocals on HD600. You might also try out DT990 as people call them a more 'fun' DT880 with more bass and treble but I didn't try them myself.

>>59518140
>>59518170
As I now use HD600... they're definitely an improvement.

The bass is more or less the same in strength imho (some perceive HD600 as stronger), but I'd say it feels more accurate (less bloated). Not that the HD598 was outright bad, it's just HD600 is good beyond ridiculous. I seriously love these cans.

Yet I wouldn't say the improvement comes from the bass. I do attribute it to the less forward (bright) mids and the treble being less "trashy".

>>59517732
Best headphones ever. I use mine with the e10k, how about you?

>>59518237
>>59518272
Not the same person, but Schiit (uber) Stack.

>>59518298
Have you ever compared that to the e10k or o2? if so, what are the differences?

A few days ago, a draft headphone infographic was posted. Had some work that needed to be done to it.

Has any progress been made on it?

>>59518272
>Best headphones ever. I use mine with the e10k, how about you?
E10k as well! Works great for me.

I thought a lot of the tests here were pretty interesting.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/486598/testing-audiophile-claims-and-myths

>>59518327
I'd also like to know.

>>59518363
>Head-fi
Shouldn't this be the last website to do this test?

>>59518140
I have the CB-1.
Bass definitely seems to have a slight boost, really nice though, but aren't they pretty neutral in the mids and treble unlike the DT770?

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>>59518405

Loving the X2s.

Guys I want to put RGB lighting in my headphones, how do I go about doing this?

>>59518572
Please don't do this, anon.

>>59518600
Who's gonna stop me, HUH?

>>59518641
Your own stupidity of breaking your phones

>>59518572
I suggest you decorate your balls with christmas lights instead.

>>59518641
Nobody. Do as you wish, anon.

>>59518666
I did this last christmas dressed as pantsless santa and went outside but the police came and arrested me.

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>>59517636
Because she's cute and sexy at the same time.

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>>59517714
>>59517732
get on my level kohai

>>59518727
Nice EAR SPEAKERS senpai

>>59518727
Cute boy, dude

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>>59518750
You know it anon-chan!

>>59518318
Haven't, but I've tried the fulla2.

Sounds the same to me, but on (painfully loud) higher volume, the magni2 seems to do better (linearly more loud, no distortion). As for the DACs, indistinguishable.

What I hear about the e10k is that it does something odd to bass even if the bass boost switch is off. Other than that, I'd personally pay (and I did) a little more for the Fulla 2, just because of the line-in and outputs which for some unknown reason e10k lacks.

>>59518898
>What I hear about the e10k is that it does something odd to bass even if the bass boost switch is off
You got it backward. Even when you flick it on, the effect is so subtle that people complained that it doesn't do anything.

>>59518898
Thanks m8

>>59518727
Ear speakers probably sound decent, but they sure look uncomfortable AF.

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>>59518727
At the time of purchasing my HE-560, a stax system was in consideration. I really wanted the SR-007a/mk2, but finding one used at a good price was next to impossible for me (at the time).

I was also interested in the SR-407 and SR-507, but the HE-560 entered my mind, read about how it was similar to its electrostatic-like brother, the HE-6, bought one to try, and was very pleased. It was also easier on the wallet since I didn't need to purchase a specialized amp/energizer.

Though, I plan on visiting Japan early next year, so maybe I'll finally come home with something from stax.

>>59518835
kek whats this from

Something to play on your HD600 or lesser cans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj4-bQlisJ4

>>59519226
Akiba Strip, episode 3

>Budget
Hard budget of 250AUD
>Location
AUS
>Source
Plugging into Nexus 5 or desktop
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High, prepared to sacrifice sound quality for it
>Sound signature
V-shaped
>Past headphones
Apple earbuds

>>59518898
>What I hear about the e10k is that it does something odd to bass even if the bass boost switch is off.
This is wrong. It doesn't do much to the bass when you switch the boost on, but you can definitely hear the difference.

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>>59519126
>Ear speakers probably sound decent, but they sure look uncomfortable AF.
They're comfy. I have velour pads.

>>59519189
My favorites have to be SR-009. They look great and sound amazing. Haven't found a good deal on them tho. Once I do, I'll buy them and sell my current ones.

>>59519226
moar

>>59519235
>HD600 or lesser cans
HD600s are pretty fucking great you pleb. I have them and use them outside with a portable amp + iPod classic.

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I'm stumped between choose the ATH-R70X and the HD600.

On the one hand the HD600 looks like it has a much bigger area for ears.

I have an E10k, will I need to buy a new DAC? The E10k is rated to 150 ohms, the HD600 is 300 ohms and the ATH-R70X is 470 ohms

>>59519347
The HD 600s are more neutral, but the ATH-R70Xs aren't made out of chink shit. Either way, you're probably going to have to upgrade to a new DAC + AMP.

>>59519376
this triggers the sennshills

>>59519307
>HD600s are pretty fucking great you pleb. I have them and use them outside with a portable amp + iPod classic.

Outside? :O

I suspect anon meant "any headphone that isn't HD600 is lesser".

>>59519376
>HD600
this. it's not even a close race.

>>59519307
>Outside
Kek.
>>59519391
Depends on what kind of sound you like, honestly.

>>59519376
Aren't HD600 made in Ireland?

Only the shittiest senns are chink.

>>59519376
>HD 600s are more neutral
Is it close though? Would I hear the difference over a long time of listening?

I was going to say, the ATH-R70X looks like it might be more comfortable and better constructed...

Too bad about the DAC/amp...

>>59519410
Sorry anon, I meant chink shit quality plastic. Not actual chink shit.

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what does /hpg/ think of AKG K92s for budget?

>>59519458
>chink quality
it's imitation chink quality, even worse

>>59519425
>Audio Technica
>Comfortable
kek

>>59519510
Their open-backed headphones are pretty comfy. Of course, headlets need not apply.

>>59518727
>>59519189
Tell me about a 'magical sound' of EARSPEKA, whats so special about them? How are the vocals, how they compare to dynamic headphones like HD600?

>>59519376
>chink plastic meme
I don't get it, my HD 589 served me well for +3 years and HD600 that I have soon for a half year have no problems with band.

Is JBL t450 worth it?

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>>59519529
>HD 598
>+3 years
Sennheiser has fixed this issue awhile ago, but some HD 5X8s developed cracking after some time. The HD 5X5s had the same issue.

>HD 600
Chink shit headband snapping. Simple fix; just don't put any pressure on the headband, and if you do, pray to god they don't snap.

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>>59519641
>making headbands which endure constant flexing out of chinkshit plastic
who the fuck thought this was a good idea
even literal chinkshit is better

>>59517570
What's the best I can get for 500 Argentinian pesos?

>>59519641
>buttmad senn hater
kek. go get a job and then you won't have to waste life on shitposting on a mongolian knitting board.

>>59519674
Good argument, anon.

Daily reminder not to flex your HD 600s.

>>59519670
>>>/g/csg and see the v2 of the infographic

>>59519689
Daily reminder to take you autism pills.

>>59519641
We will see after a couple of years if all those meme pics were true. I don't know why would anyone try to bend a headband tho.

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>>59519704
I'm only warning you, anon. One shouldn't get mad from a warning.

>>59519705
They should last you that long. I would only worry about the early batches of HD 5X8s. They can crack over time at stress points. Your HD 600s should last you that long. Just don't bend the headband too far; thicc plastic doesn't exactly respond well to bending.

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>>59519425
I found its frequency response. You decide.

>>59519641
>>59519793

Buttmad poorfag's gonna poorfag.

>>59519863
You can say what you want, but a warning is a warning, you silly goose.

>>59517570
>titsmaki
IMPOSTOR

I'm looking for replacement earpads for my Denon D2000. I see there are some cheap replacement earpads on eBay from China. Does anyone here have any experience with these? Are they any different from the regular pads? There are also some more expensive ones dubbed "PU" and "Protein Leather", but I'm not sure if its actually any different.

>>59519823
I just bought the ATH-70X but can quickly reverse the purchase decision and get the HD600...

What's the frequency response of the HD600 like?

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>>59519873
>silly goose
ohm it's that mental nutjob. print this shit out and take it to you psychiatrist next time you see her so she can up your dosage.

also, take those shitty phillips shitcans and dump them in the nearest trash.

anyway, just a fair warning to others not to engage this gut. he's seriously mentally unhinged. he went insane when ppl accused him of shilling SHP9500 shitcans. he got banned few times but he's back.

just ignore. don't feed him.

>>59519793
I stoped believing this kind of stuff when everyone were memeing me on how razer will break in a year or something and my deathadder served me for 5 years. Actually, just remembered my friend having 558 or something loooong time ago telling me how everyone was memeing him that they will snap but they didn't. Don't know who and why would anyone purposely bend a headband at all of any headphone.

>>59519924
Wow, that's flat as fuck

>>59519905
Pretty neutral with a slight a midbass bump which gives it a warm sound, and sub bass roll off. The highs are clean but sort of slightly muffled (veil), but never harsh. Sound separation is good but imaging and soundstage are mediocre. The HD600 is just a all rounder can.

>>59519957
Nice rebuttal, anon. Is that what you do whenever you have nothing to support otherwise? I'm not even shilling the SHP9500s.

Other than that, it's nice to be noticed for a change; thanks for the (You), anon.

>>59519823
wtf is that even?

I owned HD280Pro for around 4 years. The first thing to fail was the cable because the 3.5mm plug horizontally could not support the weight of the cable and eventually bent it to the point where it couldn't maintain a proper connection.

I then bought a pair of HD555 back in in 2010 which were regularly used for around 3 years, and are still in good condition. Having a native 1/4" plug helps with that.

Never had any problems with plastic cracking.

My AKG Q701 on the other hand I used regularly for about 3 years and they have plastic bits broken in 4 different places, and the headband is no longer secured as a result.

>>59519977
imaging?

>>59520013
Frequency response + Impedance curve

>>59519977
>Sound separation is good but imaging

I thought those mean the same thing. I think that midbass hump may have something to do with why I prefer HD600 vocals to literally any other headphone that I've tried including some more expensive stuff.

>>59519977
>>59519924
>>59519823
Now I really don't know what to do

Found another chart and while its close, the HD600 is flatter in the mids:

ATH-R70x:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHR70x.pdf

HD600:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf

On the other hand, the ATH-R70x has better THD, which means far better instrument separation and sound stage.

ATH-R70x:
+ Better THD
+ Wing system is comfy, doesn't need adjustment
+ L/R automatically selected through mechanical lock
+ Better construction
+ Looks better
+/- Newer...
- Less flat in the mids than the HD600

HD600:
+ Tried and tested
+ Flattest response I've ever seen
+ Looks ok
- Higher THD than the ATH-R70x
- Clamp force
- Potentially snaps in half

>>59519529
>Tell me about a 'magical sound' of EARSPEKA, whats so special about them?
The sound is more lifelike (best one word description I could think of). Electrostatic headphones generally have a much better transient response (being that they have ultra-thin diaphragms), so sounds, especially percussive instruments, sound more detailed and accurate.

Though, dynamic drivers tend to have more impact/'punch' in the low end electrostatic drivers. Planar magnetic headphones tend to almost be a cross between the two, generally having more low end impact than electrostats, but with less treble accuracy and detail. This is why a headphone like the HE-6 was considered to be electrostatic-like by several people, it had an accurate and detailed high end comparable to that of an electrostatic headphone.

>>59520059
>- Potentially snaps in half
Only if you're a retard. Everything snaps in half for fuck's sake.

Just stop.

>>59520065
>have more impact/'punch' in the low end electrostatic drivers
meant to say "have more impact/'punch' in the low end than electrostatic drivers"

>>59520071
It's just a joke, but the ATH-R70x is definitely better constructed.

>>59519347
HD600, it isn't even a contest.

R70x is bloated as fuck.

>>59520071
Not with the ATH-R70Xs and its metal headband.

On the other hand, chink shit with thick plastic doesn't mix together very well.

:^)

>>59520080
Sennheiser autists won't let you get away with a "joke". Senshilling is serious business to them.

>>59520088
>bloated

No. They just have more bass than the HD 600s which barely have any in the first place.

>>59519924
>insane bass roll-off
>people still call it the king of neutral
just why?

What's a good DAC and headphone amp combo that doesn't cost over 250 quid and can connect to my M-Audio AV42s? If there's no such thing as a good combo, what separate things should I get?

Where should I go so I can educate myself? My knowledge is limited and I want to know more. I don't know what to google

>>59519957
Only four out of all the posts there are mine, anon.

Also, banned? You're projecting again, silly.

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>>59520059
I put the charts of the HD600 and ATH-R70X next to each other.

>>59520203
>, silly [...].
You forgot the goose.

>>59520244
Gotta spice it up every once in awhile.

>>59520059
Interesting, I want to hear ATH-R70x now since it's somewhat similar to HD600 until the treble where ATH is a bit jumpy. Go listen to both of them in a store if you can, I don't think such similar graphs can really tell them apart.
>THD
Judging from this >>59520233 there might not be a 0,01 difference.


>>59520065
Interesting, I guess I have to try some to hear myself, I am really mostly interested in vocals.

HD600 is trash. I shouldn't have fallen for the meme.

>>59520301
Remember kids, don't fall for the 'Neutral or Death' meme. Juat stick with what sound you like.

>>59520389
HD600 being the neutralest of neutral is a meme in itself.

>>59520301
>Not trying out your headphones before purchase

Kekety kek.

>>59520460
Its a good meme.

>>59520507
It's a decent choice for the money meme
People need to stop hyping it up like it's Jesus's last headphones. It's a $300 headphone. It's one of the better $300 headphones, but it's still in that category.

>>59520507
>Not trying out your headphones before purchase
It's hard in Australia

Hi there /hpg/, I'm looking to buy some speakers

I was looking for these ones here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016PATXSI/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&psc=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=zeos-20&linkId=5ddc974d70f2d3e0fd4c3629f094e95d

Just a quick question, would I need to plug these into an amp/dac? Or anything like that

>>59520572
Just buy the expert setup you stupid goy. It's only an extra $150 shekels.

>>59520587
But I live in Australia goym, the indian they send will probably die on the ship over here

>>59520598
Well, the upside is that he'll at least smell less disgusting once he arrives.

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Getting the chance to try on the Audeze LCD-4s next week, what I should expect?

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>>59520635
Worse sound than HD650s. Also, go back to watching anime.

>>59520657
If you are going for the """neutral""" meme.

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>>59520552
I think there is something special about a 300$ headphone that people come back to from 1k+ headphones. You can't dispute their meme magic.

>>59520562
Is it that bad? It was really nice in mordor, they even had a relatively quiet place with sofas where you could sit and try out headphones, spend half an hour there.

>>59520694
>that people come back to from 1K+ headphones
Kek. Amazing joke. Almost got me, anon.

>>59520694
God damn, sometimes I wish I could live in Merifat for a year to buy a whole bunch of stuff

>>59520572
Cont.

So I'm looking at how I want to do this, I have a Magni/Modi 2 non Uber so I'm lacking output, would I be able to put a preamp between them and plug my speakers into that?

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>>59520901
30 second visualization, left to right

Would this work?

>>59520694
>I think there is something special about a 300$ headphone that people come back to from 1k+ headphones. You can't dispute their meme magic.

This is a subclass of people. Colloquially speaking we call them retards.

>>59520911
remove the DAC, it is pure hocus pocus

>>59520694
What's the name of this store?

>>59520694
Lol yes it's that bad.
Where i live the only headphones you can buy are $30 sony "Xtra bass" headphones from the supermarket, and even at the technology stores the best you can get is some shitty wireless senshit headphone that's overpriced by $150.

>>59521119
Yeah me too fellow ausbro

Only places to test decent equipment is in Sydney or a flight over to NZ

>>59521119
>technology stores the best you can get is some shitty wireless senshit headphone that's overpriced by $150.
The situation is really terrible because the population is sadly retarded. There's no way around it. The Amerifats seem to have a more knowledgeable customer base.

>>59521152
>The Amerifats seem to have a more knowledgeable consumer base

That's pretty damn worrying.

>>59521041
He might have shit PC sound. Most low end motherboards do.

>>59517669
If you're really hell-bent on Beats, do the black Studio

If you sit down and really zone into the music, the highs will appear...

Otherwise it's fine for what the kids listen to
It's light and the construction is solid - this is the black, the gloss black and fruity colors feel like a different material altogether. Frankly it's great for gym.

>>59517669
>Beats
Why?

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So I had a pair of ATH-M50x for probably 3 years and finally upgraded to a pair of AKG Q701. After only about a year the AKGs are falling apart. What's good in the 250$ area that will last?

>>59521521
Try taking a look at DT 880s

Fell for the bass meme and grabbed the DT770 80 ohm for $100.
Figure the worst I can do is sell them for that much.

>>59517570
Maki is a slut

Lads I'm trying to get into classical music but my speakers are shit. For those who listen to classical, are headphones or speakers better? Also my budget is pretty limited. About $200. I guess I could get a better pair of headphones than speakers for $200? If so which one should I get?

>>59522027
Anything from AKG's K7 or Q7 series will be great for classical.

>>59522040
Do I need an amp or any extra equipment? I've done some research and the akg you mentioned also gets recommended along with the dt880. Do you know the difference between these 2?

>>59522075
DT-880s are better all-around headphones if you like listening to other things as well. They have stronger bass and less treble (may just be me, other people say the have more treble too).
You technically won't need to amp either headphone if you have a good source (unless you get the 600 ohm DT-880), but an amp will help. I get 90% of the sound quality out of my motherboard output vs my magni 2 but only 60% of the maximum volume.

>>59522117
Thanks m8.

Is there any way to hook my fulla 2 up to work on my Wii U?

>>59521128
>>59521152
Thank god for the internetz

http://www.head-fi.org/t/840796/effect-audio-heritage-series-lionheart-new-product-launch#post_13359369
>retails at $499
>chord gives you "swift music" and "soulful" sound
HAHAHAHHA

>>59517937
the hd600 is a much more natural sounding headphone. not only do audeze headphones weigh a ton but they tend to be very dark, almost like a basshead audiophile headphone.

>>59518140
>>59518007
the hd600 has better bass extension than the 598, but where you really notice the difference is in impact. the 598 can be very light sounding, tight, but light. the hd600 gives a noticeably heftier bass impression. it's be no means amazing though. the hd600 is still a bit rolled off, and not as tight or punchy as other headphones, but it feels very even and warm, and doesn't bleed into the mids much.

I also listen to a lot of metal. the hd600 does everything well, but for metal I usually reach for my X2, mad dog, q701, or v6.

>>59518009
do they have a modern analogue? like the 580 is nearly the same as a 600, is the 570 like the 558?

>>59522638
>q701
Doesn't this have even less bass than the HD600?

>>59522702
it's about the same, maybe a bit less rolled off than the 600. the bass is punchier too, seems tighter and makes drums sound better to me. probably has a good deal to do with the q701 not having that slight hump that makes the lower mids more prominent, resulting in the bass sounding like it hits more towards to sub-bass. the v6 also has weak bass on a lot of measurements but the impact and tightness is insane. I like v6 bass (equalized) probably the best of any headphone I've listened to.

>>59518038
>aggressive or detailed
>drivers
Anon please stop.

>>59520635
Weighty dark sounding headphone. Nothing special.

>>59520635
Audio bliss
(Don't listen to senshills)

>>59517698
dt880 treble is fine, in fact it rises more gradually than the hd598

that said you're comparing apples and oranges, dt770 are closed, 880 are open

>>59519286
stretch to 270 and get the dt770

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>>59522339
Breakthrough in audio cable manufacturing for signals from your source device to the headphones. Traveling a meter or two at a maximum frequency of a few MHz.

>>59520039
>Frequency response + Impedance curve
Oh, that makes sense once you know it's that.

>>59520041
>I prefer HD600 vocals to literally any other headphone that I've tried including some more expensive stuff.
So I'm right in thinking HD600 is great for idols?

>>59520059
>On the other hand, the ATH-R70x has better THD, which means far better instrument separation and sound stage.
Isn't THD ABX-tested to be invisible once you get to around 0.02? As HD600 is already good there, I'd focus on something else.

>>59520039
Probably should have lead with that.

>>59523233
Soundstage is important in idolshit, and some people report that the HD600 soundstage is quite small. Might have something to do with ear shape so try it out to make sure you won't be one of those people.

>>59520552
>Jesus's last headphones.
But they really are the endgame.

>>59522027
Headphones, neutral, open.

>>59522227
Wii U (RCA) -> Fulla 2 (line in jack).

RCA -> jack cable. They're like $1.

>>59523263
>Soundstage is important in idolshit, and some people report that the HD600 soundstage is quite small.
Oh, I have no trouble with that. The soundstage isn't exaggerated like the HD598, but that's alright.

So I'm guessing it's unlikely I'll find better idol cans than the HD600 I already have. Not anytime soon.

>>59520059
>On the other hand, the ATH-R70x has better THD, which means far better instrument separation and sound stage.
No it doesn't. Where did you get that?
>ATH-R70x:
>+ Better THD
Not an issue.
>+ Wing system is comfy, doesn't need adjustment
HD600 is comfy too.
>+ L/R automatically selected through mechanical lock
Not familiar with this.
>+ Better construction
Not particularly. Snapheiser is actually a meme unless you throw your headphones around every time you use them.
>+ Looks better
>+/- Newer...
Neither one is technically a positive.
>- Less flat in the mids than the HD600
They're both about the same.
>HD600:
>+ Tried and tested
Not really a positive.
>+ Flattest response I've ever seen
Slightly relaxed treble.
>+ Looks ok
Not really a thing.
>- Higher THD than the ATH-R70x
Not even true let alone relevant.
>- Clamp force
I have a big head, not an issue for me.
>- Potentially snaps in half
Memetic.

If your theory about THD were even close to true the common conception of the hd800 S would be worse bass, if higher THD in the low frequencies meant less imaging. Most simply hear more bass.

You're splitting hairs here.

If you like the wing design and slightly V scooped sound, get the r70x.

If you like oval cups and prefer your treble relaxed get hd600.
If you want hd600 with bass get hd650.

If you want sennheiser neutrality but with softer earcups and no treble recess get dt 880's.

If you want r70x sound without wings get k712's.

If you want ear rape treble or you're over 50 get srh1440's.

>>59523317
Maybe for you.
Once you planar, you never go back.

>>59523336
Don't get me wrong, I intend to still play around, regardless of idols.

That includes planars and "earspeakers" (electrostatics, specifically STAX's).

> you never go back
My understanding is that they're more fatiguing... probably would never be my primary headphones.

>>59523366
Your understanding is wrong.

>>59523317
600 soundstage is quite good. When you add width you generally lose depth. They're a good balance of both.

Haven't been in these threads for a long time. I'm looking for cheap headphones. Is Superlux 668b still king?

>>59523567
Not king anymore, no. But it isn't a bad decision

>>59523578
What would you recommend for something sub 40-50? Closed/open doesn't matter.

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>>59517570
>>59518706
hey guys could you stop posting pictures of my wife?


also redpill me on why i'd want to use anything other than in-ears in public

>>59523334
The truth is you should always buy the HD600 and another headphone, alternate between them to find out what you really like before buying a third and last headphone.

>>59523584
HD662 Evo with a couple of simple mods

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Should I buy LCD-3 or HD800S?

I listened to both and still finding it hard to decide. Also tried Elear and Ether Flow but Elear sounded plastic and Ether was treble raping my ears

>>59524219
>I listened to both and still finding it hard to decide.
Price then? Whatever is cheaper :P

Hopefully you already have HD600, else I'd suggest getting that instead.

>>59522650
As far as I can tell, they are most similar to the 558. I also own a pair of those.

>>59520059
>On the other hand, the ATH-R70x has better THD, which means far better instrument separation and sound stage.

lmao what
fuck /hpg/ smokes some strange shit

>>59520124
Because most people who listen to shit where mids being real flat is an advantage arent listening to lower/sub-bass.

For that you need to look to planars, and even then nothing in budget really compares. Fazor LCD-2 are """""""kinda"""""""" close, but cost like 3 times more new, twice as much used.

>>59520562
>It's hard in Australia
Where in Australia are you? You should have no issue if you're less than 40km out from any city on the east cost and are able to catch a train.

>>59524173
Well, I got that too, so I guess I'm still set then. Hate the sound leak on the 662evo though considering it's labeled as closed.

>>59524219
Price, comfort and maintenance, if you already like the sound check which is cheaper/easier to fix in case of accidents (available reposition parts where you live etc).

>>59523693
to look like an idiot

>>59517669
I have the beats studio 2.0. It's fucking trash. Pretty sure the solos won't be better

>>59519641
>Simple fix; just don't put any pressure on the headband
alright, I won't wear them then

>>59524407
Not him but i live 4 hours from the nearest place i would be able to test headphones.

>>59520059
>On the other hand, the ATH-R70x has better THD, which means far better instrument separation and sound stage.
It has absolutely nothing to do with that.

>>59523243
No. Nonlinear distortion audibility is a very complex and poorly researched area. IMD or THD are both worthless at judging how audible the distortion is. Earl Geddes has probably done the most work in this area and he is trying to come up with a metric which would allow us to assess distortion from human relevant standpoint.

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/121253-geddes-distortion-perception.html

>Basically through an ellaborate test of some 25 college students we were able to show that THD and IMD are meaningless measurements of distortion as far as perception is concerned. Basically one cannot say that something does or does not sound good based on these measurements. .01% can sound outrageous in some cases and 25% can be inaudible in others. The numbers are meaningless.

25% can be inaudible and 0.01% can be audible. That's quite the difference.

>>59524219
>LCD-3 or HD800S
Both are pretty questionable suggestions. They very similar to the the LCD-2 and the HD800, which both cost less than half of the price.

>Elear and Ether Flow
You should give equalization more serious consideration as well.
Those are exactly what equalization fixes.
Also, stick to the normal Ether.

>>59520715
>>59520794
>>59520962
Anon plz.

>>59521082
doctorhead cyкa https://doctorhead.ru/ cyкa, they even have STAX and I regret not trying them just for fun.

>>59521119
>>59521152
>>59521128
Feels bad man.

>>59523233
I listen to K-ON with no problem on HD600 and I am loving it when Mio screams into my ears.

>>59523263
>>59523317
It's not as wide as other headphones, but depth and separation is really really good, there is a clear distinction in how sounds are positioned.

>>59524219
I don't know about LCD-3, but from what I read HD800s is just an HD800 with a rining peak removed using a resonator which you can achieve by mods -http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/sennheiser-hd-800-s-tweaked-and-delightfuland-french-diy-response#wgr0brp3lAKe5ms5.97. Are LCD-3 any dark sounding? Also, do you have an amp?

>>59524731
>he is trying to come up with a metric
Does he still do audio work? He folded up his speaker business.
Whatever the case, many dozens of people of have tried to popularize their metric and failed, Geddes included. We've been doing this song and dance for more than 70 years now.
>THD is not valid
>new, better weighting
>no one cares

>we were able to show that THD and IMD are meaningless measurements of distortion
Everyone already knew that. Or not, as this and the DIYA thread shows.
We have a gigantic body of evidence to show that a straightforward reading is no good.

In audio circles, the classic "13 dB miracle" demonstrated the effectiveness of error shaping via psychoacoustic model very plainly. Geddes might not have paid enough attention to audio developments, but there was a little something called MP3 built up from that concept.

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>>59522591
>the hd600 is a much more natural sounding headphone. not only do audeze headphones weigh a ton but they tend to be very dark, almost like a basshead audiophile headphone.
I'm the guy you replied to. I completely agree about the weight. They also felt weird on the head. They were not comfortable at all. And when it comes to the sound, once you seal them well, your whole head can shake from some bass-heavy tracks. Did not like that at all.

I don't understand why LCD-2 is so popular and why so many people recommend them when they didn't sound good at all. I can't imagine how they must feel after 3 hours of having them on your head.

One thing I forgot to mention, I also listened to HE-400 and HE-6. They were more similar to LCD-2 than to other headphones. Similar issues.

>>59523584
Takstar 2050/ISK 2011

>>59523749
Where do you get this autistic shit from?

>>59519896
Bump for this any help appreciated.

>>59524219
Go back and listen to them again. Don't ask /g/ how you should spend your many thousands of dollars. They will only meme you and try to get you to waste your money on what they want to buy next or have currently.

>>59520041
The are connected but not identical. Imaging tends to refer to soundstage position, width, depth, (distance & layering) and also height. You can still have clear separation of sounds but without good imaging.

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>>59524219
>Should I buy LCD-3 or HD800S?
Extrapolating from this, HD800S is a winner. Also, I bet it's 10x comfier.

>>59525280
>I don't understand why LCD-2 is so popular and why so many people recommend them when they didn't sound good at all.

Welcome to a subjective hobby. Enjoy your stay.

>>59525569
PU means polyeurethane, protein leather sounds like bullshit.

Go PU or originals.

>>59525623
>these people over here like the hd800s so you should too

Subjective. Fucking. Hobby.

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>>59517570

So I asked a couple threads ago if anyone had used MDR-CD900ST.

I picked some up and have been using them for two weeks. I fucking love them.

I should have shelled out extra for the Cartonode Engineering customs.

>>59525699
Have you ever had the 7506 or V6 and if so how would you compare them?

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>>59525640
>>59525666
quit shitposting.

>>59525850
quit makiposting

So my DT 990 Pro Just crapped Out.
Im pretty sure it's Just the Bass being disconnected because the high frequencies are still audible and for a short while jiggling the cable fixed it for a quarter of a second.
I tried asking in those Smartphone/Laptop repair Shops but they dont do Headphones.
I could send it in for repair but it'll cost me 70€ and take 5-10 workdays, but I can use my portable AKGs for that time
The DT990 is already old and way past warranty.
My Budget for New would be 150-180€

Repair, save for new or try finding a Friend to solder it Back together?

Hi /hpg/, I am not much of an audiofool or anything and I am looking for a pair of comfortable headphones. My old Audiotechnica ATH700X had good sound but I cannot use the damn thing for more than half an hour before feeling really uncomfortable, the earpads would sweat up my ear and the shitty one-size-fits-all headband puts unnecessary pressure on my head. So what I'm looking right now is a pair of light, comfortable headphones, being portable (folding flat) is a plus and my budget is around $200, what would you recommend? Is Grado SR-80i's any good?

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>>59525805

Do you like how detailed, clear, and transparent the V6s are?

This is the same thing but to an even greater degree.

Comes in a simple cardboard box.

>>59524407
West coast, main city.

Thoughts on the Xiaomi Hybrid Pro HD 2016?
I take it I'll have to get foam eartips to make them sound good?
Currently have a Audio Technica ATH-IM02 but the left driver is defective.

I want to try something with HYUUGE soundstage. What's my best bet?

>>59526575
HD598 are a cheap, overall pretty good in their price range headphones, with fairly wide soundstage.

>>59526575
ath ad series, fidelio x2, hd800

>>59525949
this is why I don't buy cans without replaceable cables. I guess you've learned your lesson now.

>>59526575
AKG K712

>>59526597
>>59526869
>>59526942
The HD598 seems to have been succeeded by the HD599, AD series seems like a bit of a bitch to get a hold of where I live (the 1000X anyway), HD800 is out of my budget.

I guess it's between the HD599, X2 and K712 as they're all about the same price.

>>59526955
>The HD598 seems to have been succeeded by the HD599
HD599 costs nearly as much as HD600 (and definitely isn't comparable)=, which is why it's never recommended anywhere. Just pretend it doesn't exist.

>>59526968
Yeah, the HD600 is almost €300 which is slightly out of my budget (set a €250 hard limit for myself).
I know the 558 and 598 were nearly the same thing, is this still true for the 559 and 599 (the 559 costs like half as much)?

I can't stop thinking about Maki all day

>>59526575
>>59526955
K701, K702, or Q701

When the k701 was more popular, people used to complain that the soundstage felt way too wide, the K702 and Q701 were made to address this 'issue' (and a couple of other issues). All three of these headphones don't have much sub-bass presence, so if you're looking for something on the bassy side as well, you probably won't find it in these (rolls off in a similar fashion to the HD600).

The K702 and Q701 both feature a detachable cable, while the K701 does not.

>>59526915
>replace cable
>contact still dead inside the headphone
WOOOOOOOW

>>59526915
>only bass is out
>high frequencies still audible
>"cable defect"
confirmed for not knowing shit about headphones

>>59527162
I'm used to slightly elevated bass, but as long as it extends quite low and isn't completely absent I'll be fine. The K712 supposedly has a bit more sub-bass than the K701/Q701/K702.

Aaand I'm back where I started, X2 vs K712. Ideally I'd just have to try both of course, but no electronics store has anything good on display.

How do I make my Momentum M2 AEBT not lag and stutter when connected to my Linux laptop?

>>59527012
>is this still true for the 559 and 599 (the 559 costs like half as much)?
These are barely tested by anyone. Too new.

As for the HD599, what I heard about it is that the soundstage isn't as wide, which kinda goes against the anon's request anyway.

>>59522856
Anything wrong anon?
>>59523265
They're $300, anon. They may be """neutral""", but they lack the detail of some other headphones.

>>59517909
>HD 800 is V-shaped.

I want this meme to stop.

>>59524508
Attaboy, you finally have the right idea.
>>59525623
It's subjective, anon. Stop memeing your """neutral""" sound signature.

>>59527417
>wrong
Yeah, you aren't making any sense. Aggressive means absolutely nothing in audio. Driver alone doesn't tell you anything of importance for "detail" which you still haven't described yet used again in that post. Comically enough tied to the price point this time which makes even less sense.

>>59527423
It is. V-shape is an umbrella term where the HD 800's response definitely goes. Broad high bass boost, recessed upper midrange and elevated treble. Not a very ideal response I'd say nor a common one but still a V-shape. In the end I don't get why it matters where you classify these to. You should always inspect the response more carefully. V-shaped headphones are always bad at being V-shaped, imo.

Does the HD600 take a while to get settled in when you just get them? So far they're not sounding as good as my ATH-A900X in terms of clarity.

>>59527472
>>59527417
I know you've been told this hundreds of times already but you should really do it and just kill yourself. You're a waste of human life and a shithead. You'll never accomplish anything. You'll forever be that loser who wastes his life away shitposting on an anime image board.

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>>59527498
>Does the HD600 take a while to get settled in when you just get them?
You can try the burn-in bullshit but I think it's just junk science. Try playing white noise for an hour. See if it makes any diff.

>So far they're not sounding as good as my ATH-A900X in terms of clarity.
You have a shit hearing then. Have your ears checked. There's a reason why AT discontinued ATH-A900X.

>>59527479
Not sure how to explain, but something along the lines of what this anon said.
>>59517073

>>59527506
>Kill yourself, because i'm MAD
Amazing reply, anon. You did it once again.

>>59527228
>>59527260
All that samefagging and retarded shitposting. The connector would not have broken had they had a detachable cable. Cable just pulls out in case of a snag and doesn't destroy the driver. But you're too baka to understand that.

>>59525280
>I don't understand why LCD-2 is so popular and why so many people recommend them when they didn't sound good at all.

When everyone these days race to make their flagships to sound as "neutral" (aka bright as fuck) and "resolving" (aka no bass) as possible, something like the LCD-2 is a breath of fresh air.

It's just a shame that headphone flagships seem to lag behind their in-ear counterparts which offer a larger variety of sound signatures.

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>>59527563
oh, that's the racist piece of shit "TrustyFucks" guy. kek.

you forgot your "silly goose" catch phrase and forgot to call people n-word. kekeke

stay stupid, stay poor! keep on shilling that Philips garbage. go get a job waiting tables or something... then you'll be able to afford shit you like to talk about. your life must be so sad... you're constantly yearning for good cans but you can't afford them so you shitpost about everything instead.

anyway, just ignore this guy and hide his posts. don't engage him. can't reason with mentally challenged people.

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I used hd598 as a subwoofer for the SHP 9500

>>59527597
>neutral
That just means that they reproduce sound correctly and don't distort it. Because, you know, that's what the singers sound like, musicians' instruments sound like and mastering engineers tried to reproduce it as closely as possible.

If you want distortions, just stick to LPs, tube amps and shitty speakers. No need for headphones.

>>59527649
>This post again
You already made this post, anon.
>>59519957
Careful, you're going to get a heart attack from all this mad posting. :^)

>>59527498
Physical burn-in hasn't been demonstrated to actually do a thing.

Psychological burn in, however, is very real. Use the HD600 exclusively. Give them a week or two.

Until you get used to the "overall" feel of the signature, you won't be able to perceive anything else.

>>59527695
Good thing sound is a preference, eh?

>>59527695
I was being facetious but these days "neutral" is the code word for brightness.

>>59525073
>Does he still do audio work?
Haven't come across anything from him in years.

>>59527563
>Not sure how to explain
I'll help: frequency response. Done.

>>59527817
There you go, attaboy.

>>59527649
>people n-word
Oh look its the easily-triggered snowflake from pleddit

>>59527809
>I was being facetious but these days "neutral" is the code word for brightness.
I don't know what circles you're in but I've around my parts, neutral still means accurate production of sound. But yes, definitions tend to change regionally and don't perfectly translate to other languages.

Stop shitposting on HF, /hpg/.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/840656/2017-european-product-design-awards-he1000-gets-silver

>>59526575
I've owned the hd600, k712, x2 and 702. The 702 had the biggest soundstage and best separation by far. The hd600 is the better headphone in general though.

>>59527162
I was under the impression the Q/K-701/2 are all the same except for the cable and color scheme. And I believe AKG has also stated this as well?

>>59524219
how is the ether flow treble rape when in has that typical treble slope down that should make it sound warmer? I can see the ether sounding dry but the flow should not.

>>59520635
The new HiFiMan Edition 6 is more promising. Heard these in Can Jam SG, they hit hard like your Audez'e but don't sound dark at all. Sounds like kind of sound Mr. Speakers is trying to achieve with their ETHER stuff but actually done right.

>>59525280
LCD2 became popular because it was open and could reproduce bass down to the lowest registers with a lot of impact, something that was pretty much absent from the open headphone market at the time which was dominated by bright or mid-centric headphones. tech has evolved since then, but it's still very common for open headphones aiming for neutrality to have noticeable bass roll off and lack of impact.

>>59528175
Same drivers in all three headphones, rather minor tweaks between the three. Upper mids on the Q701 and K702 are more smooth/less peaky than the K701, making them more balanced and less artificial sounding. Some people say there's a tiny bit more low end presence in the K702, while others say it sounds the same. I never had all three at the same time to compare.

i have a logitech g230, anyone ever owned one how was the microphone on it?

>>59529200
>2:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsVABiUrAHw

>>59529222
guess i need a soundcard then
cause the quality of mine is shit

>>59520233
It's a night and day comparison, R70x is really mid-bassy and these graphs do not show it. It isn't subtle like a HD650 / HD600 comparison, it's a lot more mid-bassy than both of those headphones.

I think for a good example of what it sounds like is probably the K712 or K7XX but with less harsh treble and possibly more veiled.

>>59527933
Even head-fi is catching on to chinkfiman.

>>59528496
>LCD2 became popular because it was open and could reproduce bass down to the lowest registers with a lot of impact, something that was pretty much absent from the open headphone market at the time


While its frequency response in the sub-bass is really good, it doesn't really matter in real world listening. The bass that you hear on the LCD-2 is a result of spectral balance, with the LCD-2 having more bass than the rest of the spectrum. The extension is pretty meaningless.

I owned a LCD-2 Rev 2 for a short while. I really liked the flat impedance response, but the sound signature and comfort wasn't for me. I didn't notice anything odd about the construction back then, it felt pretty fine and solid.

>>59529303
Really? I thought the ATH-R70x's sounded less coloured than the HD 650s.

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>properly clear out my ears for the first time since I was a little kid
>everything sounds tinny and harsh now

I need to cultivate some earwax quick as possible. any tips?

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>>59529531
>ATH-R70x's sounded less coloured than the HD 650s.
kek'd
hard

have your hearing checked.

Is the Grado SR60i that much different from the SR60e?

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>>59529582
Maybe? Final question, which one from pic related is less coloured?

>>59529753
top one is clearly less colored. it's not even close. look at the dB differences. that's a logarithmic scale.

bottom one sound like shit in treble.

ps: are we even speaking the same language? what's your definition of colored when it's not obvious to you from that nice pic you made?

>>59529804
Sorry, final question.

Why are HD 650 less coloured than HD 600s according to the graph?

Kek.

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What now /hpg/, how should I equalize this?

>>59529823
hahahahah you sure showed him.

10/10

>>59529804
>>59530125
>Possible samefag
Thanks, anon(s).

>>59530184
>>Possible samefag
It's just that one mental nutjob talking to himself and "trolling". He does that in every thread. It's the "TrustyFuck" guy. Just hit the hide and don't read his comments.

>>59530235
No. I'm the "TrustyFuck" guy, you silly goose.

>>59529753
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD580wHD600headband.pdf

This is better. That sample of HD600 on IF is garbage.

>>59530274
That's an HD 580.

>>59530274
Hmmm... Are HD 580s flatter than HD 600s?

>>59530286
>>59530376
Literally the same thing as HD600.

>>59530397
Look at the bottom of >>59529753's pic. The HD 580s are flatter.

>>59530427
That HD600 on IF is a shitty unit as I already stated. Also the R70x isn't flat.

I'm done here.

>>59530444
>excuses
Kek. We aren't even comparing ATH-R70Xs. You've already proven me wrong; but passing HD 580s as HD 600s? Shame on you, anon.

>>59530478
>HD 580s as HD 600s
It's the same driver, kiddo.

HD650 uses a different driver.

>>59517570
Now tell me how wireless in-ear headphones aren't the best choice.

>>59530514
So do Q701s and K701s, but we don't pass them off as the same two headphones, anon.

NEW BREAD

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>>59523693
Keep your ears warm and protected from harsh winter winds.