/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>59463833
First for Xubuntu

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waiting for Debian Stretch to be released

Arch is just a stepping stone.

Is it possible to have ubuntu be ultra minimalist like arch or gentoo is?

>>59464759
Probably even more minimalist than arch because of package splitting

>>59464759
yes, install debian

>>59464804
>debian
Infected with the systemd virus and has a shitty SJW community.

>>59464834
still better than ubuntu

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>>59464804

>>59464090
when?

>>59464759
Arch isn't minimalist. The packages are actually more bloated than Ubuntu.

>>59464857
t. arch babby

>>59464834
>Everything I know is build on memes

>>59464891
>Systemd virus
Fact

>Shitty SJW community
Also fact.

>>59464908
So what do you use?

>>59464908
What is the """"""correct""""""" distro then?

>>59464908
They make good software so I don't care about SJWism. Also there is literally no proof systemd is compromised.

>>59464926
>>59464935
It's not about being correct, it's about not supporting SJWs.

>>59464759
None of those are minimalist. An ubuntu mini.iso system can be.

>>59464956
How am I supporting the le ebil karlural margest sjews? Debian is free.

>>59464956
The question was what distro meets these requirements you just laid out. So what would that be then?

>>59464982
Anything but debian.

>>59463833
Its it Linux or GNU/Linux?

im trying to connect to wifi in kubuntu (and ubuntu) but after i put in my password i get "wireless interface wlps3so was unavailable "

i cant connect this pc via ethernet either but i can get files on it from my phone.

drivers say no proprietary ones are needed too

>>59464989
And what do you use?

>>59465001
Windows.

>>59464992
GNU/Linux. https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html

>>59464977
Cuck, you're letting the cultural marxists take over technology.

>>59465095
Before you complain about how Karltural Marx founded the Frankfurt school of witchcraft and wizardry... Read the Frankfurt school. It claims that everything you say is caused by cultural Marxism is actually caused by capitalism destruction of culture.

>>59464992
Linux.
GNU/Linux if you use GNU coreutils and also are a turboautist

>>59465134
Kill yourself commie faggot

>>59465170
I'm not a commie I just had the brains to actually read about the Frankfurt school before falling for and le ebin /pol/ may may. Also the term was invented by the Nazi's as "Cultural Bolshevism"

>>59465162
gtfo

>buhuu the commies!!
>another episode of triggerd americans

>>59465283
Day off the helicopter is coming commie cuck.

>>59465295
Day of the Gulag is commie capitalist cuck.

>>59465095
>cultural marxists
Youtube/Facebook Activist/Fratboy detected.You're as bad as the scum you try to attack.

>>59465162
The polularity of misunderstanding what a kernel is doesn't make the kernel the complete operating system.

>>59465309
when people say linux, they dont mean the kernel, they mean the os

>>59465332
Why not use the correct name then? You wouldn't order fries if you want a complete meal.

why should I care about loonix when I can't play games on it?

Why can't I get the default music programs to work in Arch/KDE? Tried Juk and Amarok, Juk doesn't do anything and Ararok is a broken piece of shit that doesn't play anything, constantly displays errors and crashes. What's weird is I tried Clementine, and it just werked, even though Clementine is based off of Amarok. I don't get it, I'm sure I have all the codecs necessary and I've tried both VLC and GStreamer as backends,

>>59465449
>Arch
>broken
>errors
>crashed
what did you expect

>>59465449
>Ararok is a broken piece of shit that doesn't play anything
Amarok uses gstreamer, so you need to install the relevant gstreamer plugins.

Anyway, just fucking use Clementine.

[anon@gnu-plus-linux ~]$ test='Hello' echo $test

[anon@gnu-plus-linux ~]$ test2='Hello' printf '%s\n' $test2

[anon@gnu-plus-linux ~]$ export test3='Hello'; echo $test3; unset test3
Hello

Can somebody tell me why this doesn't do what I think it's supposed to do?
Do I have to export all my variables or else they wouldn't work?

>>59465467
>what did you expect
Anything other than Debian/Derivative-like behavior.

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>>59465617
You forgot the ; at the first 2 commands.

$ test='Hello'; printf '%s\n' "$test"
Hello
$ 

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What is the best DE for Arch linux?

>>59465665
No, that was intentional. I want the variable to stay visible only for the following command.

>>59464861
probably another month or two. They're better about it nowadays but they're still famous for being slow

>>59465677
Compiz.

>>59465677
>for Arch Linux
What's the distro have to do with the DE? You do realize that you can install any DE in any distro, right?

>>59465680
This works only for enviroment variables. You can use a subshell for what you want like this:

$ (foo='bar'; printf '%s\n' "$foo")
bar
$ printf '%s\n' "$foo"

$ 

>>59465691
why?

>>59465689
There's just a few minor doodads from stretch that haven't been backported to jessie but I won't say no to a more recent kernel and xorg version 2bh.

>>59465723
Thanks, that's exactly what I did.

>>59465726
I don't know, I just like it. It has all functionality and bells and whistles I want.

>>59465677
tty1

>>59465709
sure, but who knows, maybe there is something good in AUR

>>59465677
I mainly use KDE so I don't have to deal with GTK or GNOMEshit.

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What does /fglt/ think about bunsenlabs? Seems to me what crunchbang was (pre-riced, ootb Debian). Anyone running it? Experiences?

>>59465800
No hate, but I personally prefer tty3.

>>59465947
just use debian with openbox you fag

>>59466018
I'm more of a tty1 guy, but you know what they say...

>>59465947
I love Stallman for responding to these kind of emails.

Is Void Linux any good or is it a meme? I'm mostly happy with Arch but systemd has been frustrating me. I'm not a Linux expert but there's a lot of stuff that strikes me as retarded even as a novice user.

>>59466331
>systemd has been frustrating me
Read the Wiki entry for Systemd.It's pretty simple and all of the tools you need to troubleshoot it are given to you.

Anyone know of a program to switch the keyboard mapping to that of a different language?
I do a lot of writing in various languages and would like to be be able for example, to go from writing in English to writing in Russian without hassle.
I was thinking of writing a script which changes the keyboard mapping by a push of a button, such as the ThinkVantage button (I do all my work on an x60t) and just putting little stickers with the letters on the keyboard, but that seems like a lot of work for multiple languages, and I'm not sure how to go about writing a script which allows me to chose between multiple selections using only one button.
Is it possible to write a script which will display a small window and allow me to choose from multiple options?

>>59466331
>systemd has been frustrating me
What exactly is frustrating about systemd?

>>59466478
>Is it possible to write a script which will display a small window and allow me to choose from multiple options?
Yes, check out dmenu.

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>>59466331
>Is Void Linux any good or is it a meme?

>>59466504
Hell ya. Thanks.
Gonna be a bitch manually mapping all those characters to the keys though. And then there's the part where I have to remember the mapping. Probably just use a sticker or something.

>>59466478
Look into https://github.com/ierton/xkb-switch

What's a good linux distro to save on a USB drive?

>>59466631
Awesome. Thanks

>>59466646
RIPlinux and slax have load to-ram functions. --if the projects are still alive.

>>59466646
puppy, tails

>>59466667
Depending on your distro you might have a way built already. (I know kubuntu does) but xkb-switch is the general solution

How can I tell whether nouveau is actually used to render 3D graphics instead of Intel HD?

>>59466764
glxinfo

>>59466719
Not sure if I do. I run Parabola on my x60t. Do know if openBSD has a built-in solution? Regardless, this seems like it'll work just fine.

>>59466646
KNOPPIX

>>59465828

People like you should be shot.
The AUR isn't anything special or revolutionary. Idiots like you install everything they can from it, because you think it's something majestic that no one else has done before and then you come complaining when things don't work.

>>59466043
>>59466018

I like ttys 2.

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>Laptop ran out of battery while updating
>Get database lock error
>"sudo rm /var/lib/pacman/db.lck"
>Fixes it

Now

>Failed to commit transcaction: conflicting files
>ca-certificates-utils
>libnm
>libnm-glib

I am out of my depth how do I fix this

>>59466383
>>59466488

He doesn't know. He doesn't even know what systemd is. All he knows is that someone people don't like it and it sounds bold and edgy to him, so he adopted it so he can come off as smart and knowledgeable about something.

>>59467112
Show me a system similar to AUR.
Inb4 OBS.

>>59466478

Holy shit, just use an Xorg configuration file, select the layouts you want and use the toggle option.
You don't need any scripts. Stop complicating things.

>>59467138
Read the news retard

>>59467157

You mean a system where people can host scripts online that build software? You mean something which would allow you to upload files and host them on the internet? Mhmm, I don't think anyone else but the AUR has that technology yet.

>>59467195
No seriously, where do you have a source package repository like AUR with free access? Note that AUR has ready source packages, install-able with any of AUR helpers.

>>59467229
>source packages
Does it? I've yet to see one

>>59466779
Works with Optimus?

>>59467347
Yes.

>>59467289
OK, to be technically exact, those are build scripts with sometimes some patches and other extra files.

>>59464719
To nirvana.

>>59467138
This has nothing to do with your laptop running out of battery. Like he said, read the news. You need manual intervention.
https://www.archlinux.org/news/ca-certificates-utils-20170307-1-upgrade-requires-manual-intervention/

The LFS project (Linux From Scratch) should be renamed to GLFS (GNU plus Linux From Scratch) because otherwise, there would be no need for it because there is already documentation on how to build Linux (the kernel) in the documentation directory in the source tree.

>>59468557
are you trying to fit in? or get anons to hate you?

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why is linux monolithic instead of a more modern micro kernel?

>>59468557
But i dont use gnushit i use other userlands.So it is indeed named correctly

>>59468813
pix or it didn't happen
>inb4 no pix

>>59468632
All I'm saying is that “Linux” should refer to the kernel. Linus Torvalds created a kernel and named it Linux, not an operating system.

>>59468813
I don't care what you use, but the LFS book uses GNU tools.

>>59468972
Which is easily replaceable with any other userland

>>59468757
Because in the 90s the hardware performance was too shit to accomodate the massive overhead of constant mode switching.
I don't know how anyone knowledgeable about the differences beetween monolithic and microkernel architectures can not figure this one out on it's own.


If it wasn't for performance we'd all be using Hurd or similar multiserver microkernel type. It's absolutely fucking based.

>>59468813
The GNU project is a enormously large operating system (the core utils, libs, cli, etc. are just a part of it); combined with a kernel, the GNU/Linux system. Removing GNU makes it to something different, but it doesn't make a kernel a complete operating system you can run and operate with.

>>59468757
it's a pain in the ass to develop and just takes forever
one of the reasons why the hurd development is so fucking slow

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>>59469088
But i dont run any part of the gnu userland in my system. Forcing gnushit on everyone,which in reality people use other userlands in replacement of gnushit,is wrong and shows the combative tactics freetards take to force their software on people.

Also, the kernel is loaded FIRST, which then tells the software how to talke to the hardware.

>>59469135
>Forcing gnushit on everyone
who is forcing you?

>>59469135
GRUB loads first, so it's the GRUB system.

>>59469145
"GNU/Linux"

>>59468557

>>59468972
They have directions for busybox in their handbook.

And various other forced mentions,such as the title of this thread that was combativly taken over by freetards last year, asserting that you must use gnu to post in this thread, when in reality the common factor here should be Linux since there are various other userlands that work with the Linux Kernel instead of just gnushit

>>59469000
>>59469135
>>59469196
>userlands
What does that even mean?

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>>59469196
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.

>>59469247
I am not misusing the term. Linux is a kernel,without it your userland has no access to your system.

>>59469266
Without GNU, your kernel wouldn't exist.

>>59469247
Thanks, I didn't think about it that way. I'll be using "Linux, the kernel." That is, until people stop using "Linux" to mean "GNU/Linux." Then, I'd be able to just say "Linux" and people would understand that I'm referring to the kernel.

>>59469283
Without vim, many programs wouldn't exist.

vim/firefox

>>59469283
You dont need glibc to compile the kernel,there are other compilers

>>59469456
Without a bootloader, many programs wouldn't run.

grub2/vim/firefox

>>59469517
Without vim, grub2 wouldn't have been written.

vim/grub2/vim/firefox

>>59469466
You mean gcc.

>>59469534
And what compiler is the only option in glibc?
Oh right..
faggot

>>59469466
Yeah show me one (1) compiler that can compile Linux kernel that isn't GCC

>>59469466
Didn't know that clang was a thing in 1991.

Guys, can we please stop this debate about GNU/Linux? If you don't like it, just think of it as a name to differentiate the kernel from the operating system, even if you use other userlands or don't like freedom.

>>59469563
clang

>>59469563
LLVM Clang

>>59469627
I'm okay with that, but the freetards become evangelists as soon as I use Linux

>>59469631
>>59469632
>muh very specific patched version of the linux kernel for very specific architecture with 60% performance tax on the final binary
no

should I use -pipe CFLAG if I have a dogshit slow computer? (core 2 duo, 4gb ram).

>>59469649
learn english pajeet

also use bsd lmao

would any experienced gentoo users be kind enough to walk a retard through what cflags/cxxflags I should use?

>>59469730
for compiling what?

Okay guys, I'm trying to set up LIRC with IR over the 3.5mm microphone port. It supports this with the alsa_audio driver. I have everything rigged up and when I press a button on my TV remote it goes
remote -> RF receiver -> 3.5mm into computer -> the mic input bar in Ubuntu's pulseaudio sound control panel moves to indicate a signal

However, when I use lircd with the command

lircd --driver=audio_alsa --device=hw:0@44100,r lircd.conf

I get no indication of a signal when using irrecord.

Furthermore, when I run

arecord -d 10 /tmp/test-mic-input.wav

I can clearly hear signal at the exact time I press buttons on my remote.
However, when I run

arecord -d 10 /tmp/test.wav --device hw:0

I get

audio open error: Device or resource busy

This leads me to wonder if hw:0 is simply the wrong device for some reason. What does arecord use by default? Or is there something else I can check here?

>>59469658
>-pipe
>On systems with low memory, GCC might get killed.
>https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GCC_optimization#-pipe
Use it, if compiling fails then remove it.

>>59469736
it's just an old thinkpad (x301). 1.6ghz dual core. for compiling just normal programs like firefox and stuff like the kernel

>>59465019
dafuq u doin on dis tread boi

still installing gentoo. when I try "mount -t proc /mnt/gentoo.proc" it says "can't find /mnt/gentoo/proc in /etc/fstab"

>>59469974
re-read your command

>>59469990
thanks mate I feel stupid now, forgot it needed to be mount -t proc /proc

How can I use my (android) phone's usb tethering?

>>59470116
you plug it via usb and enable tethering lol

Hey. I'm trying to install Debian via USB and when it gets to mounting the CD it says.

>Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probably means your CDROM wasn't in the drive

I'm a mega pleb so any help would be appreciated.

>>59470116
>android
It's just Linux. I can run Linux without androidshit.

how can I get thumbnails in GTK?
I'm willing to compile

>>59470126
yeah that doesn't do anything

>>59470221
heh, does your SP make you pay extra for tethering?

>>59470241
nope. wireless tethering works fine on my other devices, but my wifi card has absolutely cancerous drivers on linux. usb tethering just works on windows but linux doesn't do anything when I plug it in.

>he doesn't have -systemd in his USE flags
explain yourself

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>>59470321

>>59470343
REKT!

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>>59470221
pretty weird

my old busted huawei does it no problem.
I haven't installed any additonal software, picked up by networkmanager instantly.

debian page advises to enable usb debugging because supposedly on some devices it helps

pic related, posted this post from tethered network

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Full Composition Pipeline.... yes or no? What are the pros/cons? I've been told I should enable it? What do you guys think?

>>59470608
It's an option you enable only if you experience tearing.

If it ain't fucking broken, don't fix it.

>>59470696
>It's an option you enable only if you experience tearing.
You know, it's weird... I don't experience tearing but something fucking random... occasionally, about 3-4x a day, one of the backround windows (be in terminal, music app, browser window etc) would just start randomly flickering like mad. Just the window... not the whole screen. Weird as fuck. I was told that enabling Composition Pipeline would solve it.

>>59470793
>I was told that enabling Composition Pipeline would solve it.
then why haven't you enabled it and test for yourself?
It's clearly an issue for you and you were just told a possible solution.
Why the fuck are you asking for pros and cons?
jesus fucking christ.

i swear i'm getting dumber every day of sitting here

>>59470822
deep breaths anon, deep breaths. if you have some prozac or some other pick-me-up pills, now is the time to pop them. no need to get angry.

>>59470793
Could be related to your compositor

>>59470886
hefty strikes anon, hefty strikes. if you have a hammer or a brick now is the time to pop a few hits repeteadly on your head
stop being so fucking stupid

I'm using grsync to do local backups and large data transfers.
Is there a command that will make rsync work across multiple threads/processes to transfer data faster? When moving data across ssd's i'm getting abysmall write speeds

>>59470911
>Could be related to your compositor
GNOME3 + Mutter... which of them is at fault? Where do I file a bug?

>>59466546
I like it, also it is very light.

>>59471030
Probably Mutter. I'm not sure if you are able to turn of compositing with it though. Back when I ran Kubuntu sometimes I would get flashing windows or windows would freeze and I would fix it by toggling the compositor off and back on.

What USE flags should a Gentoo newfriend use? Probably going to use -gnome, -kde, -qt, gtk and -systemd.

Someone has some tips to share for Lighttpd under Debian? I'm trying to learn it since I want to use rTorrent with the GUI.

PS: I'm not asking adive about ruTorrent. Only about Lighttpd

>>59471150
If you aren't setting the http server up for enterprise you can just use the default configuration most of the time. Their documentation would probably give you a starting ground to work off of.

>>59471179
I read a little and doesn't seem hard, but I'm paranoid of letting some security holes, although I have iptables and stuff.

>>59471208
As long as you stay on top of upgrading when there are security updates and don't run vulnerable software on it you should be good.

>>59471265
So it won't easy for me to fuck it up following Ligghtpd Documentation?

What exactly does the offensive USE flag do?

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>>59471633
Pic related isn't very clear

>>59471633
>>59471646
it makes your system into a cunt.

Noob here, installing Gentoo currently because its docs seem clearer than Arch's. I have a very fast connection, but when downloading stage3 from Gentoo servers it is down to 530kB/s (via Ethernet). I assume this is user error and was wondering if it is common enough for anyone to have a solution. I searched and found a bunch of Ubuntu forums posts which seem to only target wireless users.
Thank you in advance

>>59471724
Probably the fault of Gentoo servers. Try a different mirror, or just wait.

>>59471724
Avoid college and university mirrors, they tend to really limit your download speed.

>>59471633
>>59471646
>Mfw people tell me Gentoo isn't a sjw kek

>>59471633
>>59471646
>>59471860
It enables more offensive compiling flags such as "-O3" which may break your system

>>59471860
DELET THIS

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Why should I encrypt the /boot folder? I have luks encrypting everything else.

>>59471906
That's not true is it?
>>59471633
>>59471646
I know it enables sudo insulting you if you get the password wrong but I don't know what else it does. Maybe it affects fortune?

>>59471955
Read the handbook,it flat out tells you about it

how do I get fortune to appear on startup, like in slackware?

should I use funroll loops? my pc is pretty weak.

>>59472483
>gentoo wiki explicitly says "Dangerous flags like these are not needed. Don't use them."
>dumb ricers use them anyway

I'm trying to install gentoo. Lots of people here say genkernel is a bad idea, so I'm configuring it myself. I'm confused as fuck. I don't really care about having an ultra minimal kernel; I just want a kernel that's similar to Arch.

>>59472882
use genkernel.

>>59473221
I remember someone saying a few threads ago that genkernel can give you a broken system/problems in the future. Is the default genkernel just like arch's kernel, not very specialised? If I do genkernel now can I easily make my own kernel in the future?

>>59473318
Compiling your own kernel shouldn't be too hard if you need to in the future. I've had to recompile mine a few times. It's usually just make menuconfig, make, make modules, make install, copy files into /boot.

should i use pulseaudio or not? I hate Poetteringware but I'd use it if it was actually good. considering switching because it looks like it is becoming the standard now (and because firefox)

Going to try to switch from Arch to Gentoo soon, I'm also probably going to try btrfs. Can I have /boot on btrfs? I was planning on having only two partitions, a btrfs at /boot and a swap, and then installing grub to the mbr. It looks like the gentoo installation guide wants me to have a separate boot partition, but I've never needed one on arch. (and if I do make one, it seems like ext2,3, or 4 is a much better choice than btrfs)

>>59474277
I meant that I would have only a btrfs mounted at / and a boot folder within that partition.

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First for using Arch plebs as beta testers

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>wait two hours for a package to compile
>it fucking fails two hours in

>>59473996
It just /werks/. Quit being an autist and stop regurgitating parrots

I keep getting "grub-efi-amd64 failed to install to /target/" when trying to install mint on my win 8.1 laptop. There are like 1000 different answers online

>>59474299
So is Manjaro actually good or just a meme?

What's the most idiot proof way of cracking website passwords?

I have an old Facebook account whose email has since been 'closed off' and I dont know the password anymore.

I want to use it as a "professional" Facebook account. I could just make another one, but the link for it is facebook dot com slash first dot lastname so i'd really like to get it back.

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>>59474299
>>59474404
It is very good. Don't take my word for it get an ISO and try it out. The Xfce version of course.

>>59474299
>>59474404
>>59474420
I used it for a few months and then went back to arch. It is literally just arch with an installer and some nice defaults, like antergos, but with its own repos. In my experience it gets packages about the same time as arch and has all the same problems. (It does seem to have less updates needing manual intervention which is nice).

is linux mint a meme? Is it worth using even as someone that isn't a linux noob

>>59474665
http://knowyourmeme.com/search?q=linux+mint
Come in and find out.

Exactly what the fuck is vim, and what is vim NOT.

Why does

:sort n

work better than

sort -n textfile

As in, sort -n got fucked the fuck up by my document because it contained an enormous amount of non alpha numerical characters, which made it place 10 after 1, where as vims sort did it fine with no retarded sed or awk instructions to get it moving.

So again, what exactly is vim? Because nano cant do this, and its obviously not calling unix sort if its giving different results.

>>59474618
>has all the same problems.
I've used arch for 2 years and never had a problem with an update though

>>59474767
sort -V

>>59474790
that one fucked it worse and sorted each of my lines by the number of spaces before the text.

>>59472466

Add it to your bashrc.

Are there any breaking caveats to using Crunchbag11?

>>59474773
I just meant stuff like occasionally needing to check the website and syu --force. I've never had a real breakage beyond when /lib became a symlink, if anything I find updating fixed distros breaks more stuff.

>tfw too dumb for Gentoo
The kernel settings looked fucking labyrinthine so I decided to use genkernel, and it fucking failed for some reason after an hour and a half. I'm probably going back to arch now, but since I fell for the "systemd is bad" meme I'll feel bad about using it.

>>59475518
Seems you fell for a lot of memes.

>>59467138
The news explicitly talked about this error in this case but in general, read the fucking wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#.22Failed_to_commit_transaction_.28conflicting_files.29.22_error

>>59474404
No.

>>59475518
>the "systemd is bad" meme
i still dont get it 2bh.
And I dont get the hardcore meme either.
If i had the money to neet around forever Id just build my own entire enviornment.
But debian just works so its fine for now

>>59475191
You should never _have to_ force. Sometimes it's the easier solution though. Try and avoid it.

>>59475576
I don't hate it. I've only had slackware's scripts and openrc to compare it to. As software it's not horrible- openrc is probably slightly technically superior (it has other large flaws, but is definitely preferable) but I don't care about that part. What bothers me is its continued approach of absorbing other system components, and its backing by red hat. First pam and login, then networking- what next? Poettering himself has said it's no longer, or was never meant to be purely an init system. Not to mention gnome and all the programs that unnecessarily depend on it. It breaks the suckless UNIX philosophy, which I don't care about that much but can appreciate.

>>59475160

Yes, it implies that you're a retard.
Install Debian with Openbox, idiot. There is nothing Crunchbang or the hundreds of other shitty downstream distributions do that the original can't.

>>59475518

You should have realized that you're dumb after this >>59475544.

>>59475646

>It breaks the suckless UNIX philosophy
First of all, you don't even know what that buzzphrase means.
Secondly, it doesn't according to the very vague definitions of it. Also, even if it did, other software does it too and you don't complain about it. Other software is also "backed by" Red Hat. The kernel you use for example.

Kill yourself you retarded hypocrite.

I want yo try out Arch but I'm afraid to fuck everything up in the installation process. Should I try to install it on a VM before to get how it works?

>>59475734
What do you care if you fuck shit up in the installation process? Just start again, you were clearly wiping the disk anyway.

>>59475756
I don't want to accidentally fuck up the other partitions. Sounds retarded, I know, but I just want to make sure that I have a smooth installation.

>>59475804
parted can be tricky, but once you get it down it's super clean. If you need to experiment in a VM do so, though it's really hard to fuck up other partitions, just don't touch them.

>>59475646
>suckless
It's actually a satire, not meant to be taken seriously

I've switched from Windows to Ubuntu GNOME recently and I love it so far.

One question though: I have two monitors and when I press alt+tab in the "activities" mode I can only select the applications from the main screen. How can I select the rest?

>>59475734
Sure, try it in a VM first.

>>59475734
I would not recommend using a VM at all actually. Just pay close attention when doing ANYTHING related to partitioning. The install is not that hard, unless you have poorly supported hardware (especially wireless). A VM will make it a lot easier than it will actually be, because stuff like internet will just work. Anyway, if you have basic knowlege of how partitions work, you can easily install arch by just pasting commands from the wiki.

>>59476061
Partitioning is definitely the most challenging part of the install, at least it is if you have existing partitions you want to keep. The rest is like 10-15 lines you can copy almost exactly from the wiki.

So /fglt/ a few months back the only thing keeping me on Windows was gaming and now that I've done away with my desktop and purchased an ultra-book for my degree that concern is out of the way. After the car crash that W10 was for me I've gone ahead and pinched a lubuntu iso and we're underway.

Now my issue is that I need to work with VB.net/Java/C++ and I have very little experience with IDE's on any *nix system. I know IntelliJ has Ryder and IDEA for VB/Java and I'd shit a brick if there wasn't something for C++ but does anyone have any direct experience with a setup similar to this?

I assume people will say Emacs/Vim but I'm genuinely not sure if I could be fucked with that learning curve on top of freshening up on *nix, that being said it's a skill for life that I intend to get around to as soon as I can justify the time.

Any other general advice is appreciated.

>>59476088
Yeah, go with IntelliJ for Java development. For C/C++ I sometimes use CLion (not the best and forces you to use cmake for your project) or just vim.
I haven't done any C/C++ work professionally so I'm not as experienced with good IDE's for them.

>>59476088
using emacs and vim for large, complex programs in 2017 is a meme. maybe emacs slightly less so, but writing 500+ line programs in either of them is a massive waste of time. I mostly write in java with intellij so I can't really suggest anything else, but vim is really nice when you feel like writing something simple.

>>59476175
>>>/r/eddit

>>59476146

Alright, thanks for the CLion suggestion. I'll check that bad boy out.

>>59476175
The way I've heard people talk about them both I was starting to think they turned your code into liquid gold and then went for the reach around. Oh well, cheers.

>>59476223
vim is like a swiss army knife. It's not an IDE despite what people say.

Emacs is for morbidly obese people.

>>59476221
why? Maybe I underestimate how productive people actually can be with vim, but writing anything large in it makes me want to gouge my eyes out. very comfy for small stuff.

>>59476257
GAS THE VIM USERS EDITOR WAR NOW

>>59476257
Emacs can do more than vim because it's fucking graphical.

Fucking vim users.

>>59476261
emacs org mode

>>59476315
>gvim doesn't exist

>>59476315
The best thing about vim is that it's cli

>>59476326
gvim is a thin wrapper, it doesn't make vim graphical. It can't show images, math formulas, pdf preview etc.

>>59476342
>. It can't show images, math formulas, pdf preview etc.
thats what having a second screen or laptop is for.

>>59476432
What the heck are you talking about?

>>59476447
What's your graphics card?

>>59476447
You wouldnt even be able to start a DE without a GPU.

>>59476447
No. Your laptop has an integrated graphics chip in the CPU which is much weaker than your other card. The integrated chip is much weaker, but also produces less heat and uses much less power than your other card. All rendering including the desktop is done on the CPU chip, but it actually doesn't decrease your CPU's speed.

>>59476061
>>59476074
Perhaps it would be easier if I make the partitions before with a graphic tool and then install Arch on its designated partition?

>>59476489
Yeah you can do that if you want. Just make the partitions that you would want to make in the installer.

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Will I see any diference of compatibility on wine over distros?

I'm trying to run some stuff on manjaro and its motherfucking impossible

What could I try?

Must be light since I run from a 16GB SSD (yeah I know)

>>59476503
All distros are ultimately, potentially, the same.

>>59476503
Different versions of wine have different compatibility, so possibly yes.
Why don't you fucking use real Arch?

>>59465677
KDE for hidpi.

Anyone here use Kubuntu? Been thinking of switching to it from Ubuntu because I like the look of KDE Plasma, but want to retain the ability of using .deb packages and the simplicity of Debian/Ubuntu

>>59476503
>Will I see any diference of compatibility on wine over distros?

If you use wine supplied by them: yes, as many distros, as many wine versions

If you use the same wine version/compile wine everytime: no, there shouldn't be any noticeable difference.

>>59466795
OpenBSD uses the same programs. It's all X11.

>>59476525
Which one should I use, then

>>59476513
>Why don't you fucking use real Arch?

Actual reasons

>>59468757
Linux is the best monolithic kernel in history bar none. Everything but Linux and the BSDs are hybrid (NT/ReactOS, XNU, Haiku) or pure microkernels (L4, Genode, Redox, NOVA, MINIX 3, Muen) by now.

>>59476523
>Been thinking of switching to it from Ubuntu because I like the look of KDE Plasma, but want to retain the ability of using .deb packages and the simplicity of Debian/Ubuntu

Does it hurt being this dumb? Because it should.

Kubuntu is not a different distro, it's just fucking Ubuntu with a metapackage called "kubuntu-desktop" installed. (http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/kubuntu-desktop)
if you want to try it out, just install the metapackage using 'tasksel' from a terminal (as root of course).

>>59476554
>Which one should I use, then

I prefer using wine-git and compile it myself as it has the latest fixes and features.

If you don't want to compile wine yourself but still prefer having the latest version, they supply binary packages of their development versions from their site for many distros.

If you are OK with the latest stable, most distros ship that in their main or backports repo.

>>59473996
pulseaudio is OK these days, I didn't have any problems with it for years except some minor annoyances when I ran it from debian with sysv+openrc.

Install pavucontrol (gtk based mixer+advanced pulse configuration tool) for maximum control over it.

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It has been like this for quite some time now. Do I need to start over?
It got stuck in a cyclical error for 30 minutes last night so I did C-z and then restarted the emerge command.

I'm trying to use wifi-menu. It's some Intel ThinkPad wireless card so the driver probably isn't the problem. After I sudo wifi-menu and select the network and password, it immediately says it failed (as soon as I hit enter on the password, no way it actually tried to connect...)
I've tried
Sudo systemctl enable/start netctl
Sudo systemctl enable/start systemd-networkd
I would just use network manager but I can't download it and much prefer netctl.

>>59464090
why dont you niggers just use it despite it being in "testing" instead of waiting it to be released as stable

its frozen and pretty stable and problem-free for me, it wont get really anything else than bug fixes now

>>59477053
>Debian plebs wait to get packages that are 6 months old by the time they get them
>Debcucks are still on 3.16
LMAO

>>59477113
This is a friendly thread. Take your memes and post elsewhere. Thank you.

What fucking distro do you guys use?
>Post about arch
>People say it's a meme that always breaks
>Post about Gentoo
>People say it's a meme
>Post about Ubuntu
>People say it's a botnet
>Post about Fedora
>Get called a red hat shill
>Post about Debian
>Get called an she
>Use systemd
>People say it's shitty/botnet
>Don't use systemd
>People say I got memed

>>59477276
Slackware

>>59477276
Trisquel GNU/Linux-libre

>>59477276
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux.

>>59477276
>caring about trolls
Use what makes you happy.

>>59477335
This desu
The best distro is whatever works for you. Use whatever you like, don't care about the opinions of people here.

>>59477276
distro trolling is an ironic meta joke by now. No one takes it seriously

>>59477489
found the guy who uses a pleb distro

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>>59477276
Arch on my Desktop gentoo on my Laptop

at last i truly see.
>install the dev pack and cmake
>shit just works
>no PATH bullshit
>no missing DLLs
>no obscure compiler error

thank you lads for the light

>>59477666
np satan

>>59477610
Ironic.

Dualbooting Win10 and Ubuntu MATE, but when I boot into grub all I get is a blinking cursor, but if I manually select an OS to boot into in my BIOS on boot, then I can boot into them just fine. What's wrong?

tl;dr - grub has a blinking cursor on boot

>>59478339
the problem is win10, just remove it

>>59478423
But I've dual-booted in the past and it worked fine, it's only recently that grub started to misbehave

I need Win10 for programs I can't get on Linux

>>59478449
If you can get into ubuntu, upgrade grub and reboot. Should fix it.

>>59478468
Yeah, I can.

Could you tell me the command? I'm a beginner - I doubt it's as easy as "sudo update grub"

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>>59478449
GNU/Linux*

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How to get access to root partition from live media and modify it?

>>59478482
youd be wrong

>>59478497

mount -o rw /dev/xxxx /mnt

>>59478489
>not posting the copypasta
wew

>>59478521
What about permissions?

>>59478510
Is it literally sudo update grub?

>>59478551
You can run the command, I allow it.

>>59478557
>>59478510
I found it - gksu update-grub

>>59478562
kek

>>59478557
yep,

sudo update-grub

>>59478577
And if I still get a blinking cursor?

>>59478582
you should update that with openMW

/fglt/ help. I tried changing my account on xubuntu so it would automatically login without asking me for a password anymore. After rebooting now it won't let me in anymore. Won't ask me for a password, but if I click "login" it flashes for a brief moment and takes me back to the login screen, stuck forever in limbo. How can I fix this?

>>59478582
it's always the same cycle
>buhuuu loonix has no games
>let's stick to windows
>people develop games for the os that's popular
>repeat

thats, by the way, also the reason why we still need to use nonfree drivers on gnu/linux

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>>59478582
delet

>>59478562
Must be funny being you.
I've installed a driver and the monitor shows black screen only.
I need to remove the installed driver.

Is chroot the only way?

>>59478613
most likely a boot order issue or GRUB and window's MBR not getting along.

Similar thing happened to me where after installing grub on the same drive but different part. On boot windows would BSOD due to my SSD changing order for some reason. So i had to
>unplug my ssd
>boot into flashdrive
>reset and plug the ssd back in
Then shit magically got realigned

Doubt that will fix yours, but i imagine theres a superuser thread with the solution

I just want a DE (or even a distro) that runs smoothly out of the box, i.e. has no screen tearing, no menu lag, no dragging lag etc

Why is this so much to ask? Ironically I found standard Unity Ubuntu to be the smoothest, but it looks like shit.

Is it worth learning about window managers and such, or can I just get a fucking 'it just werks' DE?

>>59478832
for the best experience it's best to start with a window manager and build your way up, so you can tune everything to your exact liking.

>>59478832
Manjaro linux.
OpenSUSE
Ubuntu MATE

>>59478933

>>59478933

>>59478933

>>59478933

>>59478933

>>59478933

>>59478958
fuck off

>>59478958
>early

>>59478832
Crunchbang++ 2bh

What does /g/ think about GuixSD? I may want to install it on my T420...

>>59478987
It's godlike, but still in beta. Try in a VM.

310th for debian stretch

>>59465677
Is that supposed to be a "beauty mark" on the bottom? Fuckin hell, my birthmark was one in that exact spot. ...do I have to use Arch now?

>Debian Stable
>Audio stops working out of nowhere
>Speakers still work
>Nothing silly like volume muted

wat do?

>>59480325
add backports.

>>59480344
Already added!

>>59480393
post in the new bread.

>>59478958

>>59480393
>>59480325
Disregard my last post, I think I got it.

open pavucontrol and mess witht he sinks, see what works.

If nothing does, change profile from the configuration tab and restart X (aka reboot)

>>59480477
>>59480496
Thanks anons

>>59480551
>anons
anon