GIMP or Krita? Are there better alternatives?

all i know is gimp for macOS is shit and is about to be dropped. i'll probably try krita.

>>59440796
krita is pretty good

>>59440796
>Are there better alternatives?
Adobe Photoshop CC, hell, even the free CS2 version is better than those two.

>>59440796
Krita for drawing but Gimp for photo edits

GIMP is for photo manipulation while krita is more oriented for artist who sketch and do simple paintings. Pick your poison.

>>59440845
The only thing macOS faggots drop is the soap for their boyfriends.

>>59440845
I've been using it and it hasn't been all that much different to the regular version.

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>>59440929
(You)

krita is really good except the fucking bugs

Both.
They both have strenghts and flaws, so know what they are and use them together for maximum efficiency.

>>59440929
Kek

can krita do paths like gimp?

>>59442261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mohAPwe9YJo

I use both.

>>59440877
Typical adobe drone pajeet

Pixlr

>>59440877
>hell, even the free CS2 version is better than those two.
>being this delusional

I've recently tried Photoshop CS5 along with Krita because I was testing tablet drivers and let me tell you, even CS5 is horribly dated.

>>59440796
Depends on what you're doing, but Krita should suit most of your needs and it's a lot more Photoshop oriented.

There was no learning curve coming from Photoshop to Krita for me, it just takes a few minutes to get used to different keybinds. Krita has eyedrop bound to ctrl I think, and it's always alt.

Literally the only problem Krita has is optimization, but they're working on that and it's much much faster than it was even going a year back.

I love Krita so much and I would shill it anyday. It's wonderful.

>>59440796
Krita is better despite being the tool with a different purpose.

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>>59440796
Paint.NET :^)

STOP FUCKING SPAMMING CAN WE HAVE AN ACTUAL DISCUSSION PLEASE

>>59442882
I'd like this as well.

Reply to me, what is your argument, are you for or against Krita

>>59440796
Affinity Photo is actually a viable challenger to Abode Photoshop.

>>59442899
Why, what's so good about it

>>59442896
I love krita for the wacom support, gimp is lacking in the brush strokes area by default. havent tried fucking with it for very long before i gave up and went back to krita. as for vectoring i resort to gimp or if i have windows at hand, photoshop as the paths tools are much more intuitive.

tl;dr i use both

not even a fan of apple, but enjoy your ban spammer

>>59442917
I don't do vector art, but doesn't Krita have paths as well or am I imagining? Are they shite?

I know that working with text is painful in Krita, so I imagine other vectors aren't nice either.

>>59442962
It has paths, I havent experimented with them yet, but judging by the video of krita paths someone posted it seems less streamlined. e.g. instead of hold alt/ctrl and right/left click you have to click a button on a toolbar etc.

>>59442978
Just tried it and it's click and drag to set path point and curve. It autostrokes on path end.

Not sure how to edit it, it's not very intuitive.

I've last used paths for line art before I had tablet anyway, so can't say I care much.

>>59443006
I use photoshop for vectoring (trained in community college for it) and I'm so used to click, make the point, make the next point, etc, i like to make parts of the line at my own width to accommodate edges that have been sketched sharp or smooth, not really sure how to explain it but the only way to do it right is not to stroke the edge of the path but to make the path go around the edge of the lines and fill it in without stroking. Its twice as time consuming but gives really good results.

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here's an example of what i'm talking about when i say go around the line and fill it instead of copying the line and stroking it.

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Why no one is talking about sai?

>>59443150
Because the onliest screenshot you've found is about 10 years old, it's in spanish and HD resolution.

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>>59443164
Better?

>>59443150
Doesn't support my tablet. It's got lovely blending though. Great for lineart and animu, doesn't have as many features as Krita/Photoshop.

There's not much to say about it. It is good at what it does, but it doesn't do a lot.

>>59440929
how is this funny

>>59443212
>>59443150
Also, OP didn't even specify if he's doing photomanip or drawing.
I assumed it's photomanipulation since he mentioned GIMP, and SAI is just for drawing.

>>59443212
>Doesn't support my tablet
What tablet? OS?

>>59443228
Genius M610XA on Windows 7, don't laugh friend.

>>59443216
Hating anything by apple is in fashion.

>>59443234
I have wacom bamboo and it works well with sai + WINE.
I had few issues configuring the tablet but after switching to KDE all problem were solved.

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>>59442715
My melanin drenched brethren

>>59443298
ahh i miss my bamboo now, shame they dont really make them anymore. the intuos is alright though.

>>59442715
Paint.NET has a Linux clone called Pinta.

>>59443298
Yeah, but that's the thing, your tablet is well supported.

I'll try mine on WINE because it does work wonderfully under Linux. It shits the bed all the time under Windows, I might have to write my own driver. I've pestered Genius for a month now and I don't think they even have the source code for their older drivers anymore because I had to send them their own driver back. They accidentally deleted 2015/tablet folder from their website, it's hilarious. Bless them.

>>59443306
You can find it on amazon, or some retailer.
>>59443334
YMMV, while linux's open drivers are good to get the job done, configure it is different story.
I can't get gestures to work with my bamboo even after switching to KDE.

But what I really miss from windows is hand writing recognition.

>>59440970
This. It's really good, especially for drawing/painting (if you're more into photo editing then go with gimp, maybe). But yeah, it's got some nasty sneaky bastardy smelly bugs
I still use it anyway. Bugs are nice, they help in the food chain

Why GIMP is still around?
While it CAN do whatever photoshop does, it's not the same or easy to achieve.

For example, no magnetic lasso, no comprehensive selection order, commonly used features are hidden by several steps.
And the horrible UI that takes a lot of the screen.

>>59443496
Not a problem for me. I disabled flicks (are those gestures?) on Windows anyway to make the driver more stable so I'm not used to using them. I'm happy enough with having my pen pressure not crash constantly forcing me to reboot under Linux. Even just having basic functions is a huge step up from Windows.

I have some buttons on top of my tablet for undo and such which work in Photoshop, but not in Krita, so those would be useless under Linux anyway. One hand on keyboard, another one on tablet is how I draw.

>>59443551
because it's fucking free.

>>59440970
Like everything relating to KDE.

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>>59444038

>>59440796
been using photoshop for about 10 years works pretty good, I also use a legit version of Clip Studio Paint Pro which is really nice for painting

is there an mspaint clone for macos?

>>59440796
gimp should advance the gui and implement iconic panel menus thingies

>>59443266
>Hating anything by apple is in fashion.
and has been since its inception basically
people had these same exact discussions on usenet with only minor differences, complete with retarded greentext-style trolling and only marginally more intelligent scatalogical humor

>install Krita
>toggling visibility of any given layer randomly changes visibility of random layers
uh...

>>59440877
>even the free CS2 version is better than those two.
Where can I actually download this?

>>59442715
Paint.NET can't even lock transparency tho.

>>59440796
>Are there better alternatives?
Photoshop

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>>59444038
Kiki is cute.

>>59444500
You have to give your e-mail, IIRC.

>>59440877
It's not free. Using it without owning a license is just as legal as pirating the latest version.

>>59444500
>free

>>59444485
This. Apple products being popular and fashionable is what really is a modern trend.

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>>59440796
Why not both?
Grab krita appimage from krita download page to get around all those pesky kde deps.
>>59442917
Also get gimp developement version app image for the mypaint brush support

>>59449054
Why not just use MyPaint?

>>59449143
If you found a source of beer that was free as in beer, would you just take one beer?

>>59449143
GIMP is an excellent tool for creating circles, rectangles and green peppers.

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>>59440929

>>59449263
GIMP = Green Is My Pepper

>>59449054
>appimage
And installing several dependencies

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>>59445985
GIMP has this, though.

>>59449381
download krita appimage from krita download page.
chmod executable.
double click or ./krita_appimage

>>59440796
Krita is pretty darn good.

>>59440955
dunno how it is now, but 3 years ago Mac version was pretty much unusable.

>>59449054
>appimage
Why isn't this more prevalent?

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>>59449498
The only hassle is checking for updates.
I've seen some github projects and forum discussions/arguments about which approach to use. I just bookmarked the 3 download pages for the ones I have and check for new versions from time to time.

>>59449616
What about adding an update option in application?

>>59449498
Sounds good for testing but on the long run it's better to just install the app.

>http://www.davidrevoy.com/article322/krita-appimage-for-cats
I can tell this was done by a furry.

>>59450109
Or if you want krita on a gnome system without installing half of kde.
There isn't much for kde apps or runtime as far as flatpak or snaps go.

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>>59449403
hahahahah

>>59450248
Isn't that possible already in Arch? I've been thinking of switching because they also have a GTK2 fork of Firefox in the AUR.

>>59440796
Krita. I'm an artist, draw with a digital tablet for fun.

This program just works, everything is intuitive and there's not a single function that makes you wonder "now how do I do this... better google it". It's all pretty straightforward and great to use.

Krita is good, though it is a completely different program after each update. Panels/actions disappear only to appear in other places, which require a hunt through the interface to find.

>>59452001
They just want to avoid stagnating like GIMP.

>>59442689
kys gimpooinloojeet you are worthless

>>59450092
Arguments like --install, --remove, etc, may easily collide with arguments that belong to the application inside the AppImage ....
https://github.com/probonopd/AppImageKit/issues/133

>>59440796
Photoshop. You are a fucking idiot if you stick to "muh free software" and lincucks by giving up literally all of your functionality.

>>59452440
Learn to express yourself properly if you want to be taken seriously, kid.

>>59452440
you sound mad chum lol

>>59440796
If you want to create memes and do meme edits then GIMP is a great choice

>>59440796
Gimp, Krita and Inkscape.

use them in conjunction rather than as alternatives.

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Stop comparing these programs they have some similar functions but they aren't intended to do the same thing.

>>59440796
mtpaint

>>59453219
True.

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>>59445985
Yes.

>>59440845
ive installed gimp on my sisters macbook but it works very slow
is that because the macbook probably has a shit processor or is it because gimp is ported badly there?

>>59440913
>>59442019
this, have both and use the right tool for the right job

>>59449467
3 years ago version was shit, something to do with x11 or something that has been fixed fairly recently

>>59443551
it fulfills hobbyist purposes perfectly

>>59443330

and it's a conglomeration of bugs

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>>59450330
that image just smacks of homosexuality

>>59457791
>is that because the macbook probably has a shit processor or is it because
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DyUitTVWlw>>59457791

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>>59443150
Probably because Krita is better. SAI's development stagnated for a very long time and it still hasn't recovered.

>>59440796
you cant draw a circle in gimp so

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>>59445985
She's also quite marketable.

>>59459250
The application is call 'The Gimp'. What were you expecting?

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>>59459508
You ain't kiddin', anon.

>>59443616
Underrated post.

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>>59453237
Pretty much this. Also, Blender.

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>>59459548
i want to ____ kiki

>>59459490
e -> draw -> Edit -> Stroke Selection... -> Stroke
Here you go faggot

>>59459524
It's actually called GIMP.

>>59440796
Gimp has a peculiar problem for me. The tool box etc is not docked and floats freely. If I select the main window the tool box "goes behind".What do?

>>59461034
Drag the tab (not the window) to where it says "you can drop dockable dialogs here".

>>59461050
thanks

>>59460423
draw

>>59450330
Welp, looks like I'm finally uninstalling gimp

Paint.NET

>>59440796
Both

>>59462014
No.

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Gimp, maybe its me but krita doesn't seem very good for photo editing.

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>>59453219
I can't help to laugh everytime someone asks for a caption or gets one from quickmeme only to get "use GIMP, newfag" as a response.

>>59464826
>krita doesn't seem very good for photo editing.
> Krita is designed to be a digital painting application (Wikipedia)
You don't say

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This is a good topic.

Any marginal advantage photoshop has over gimp is not a worthy excuse for using microsoft windows.
It's not even a valid excuse for using wine.
In fact, I'd go as far as to say any problem you fags have with gimp is 99% due to baby duck syndrome.
Either that, or you're paid adobe shills.
Now please fuck yourselves, and leave the Stallman board forever.
Thank you, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way >>>/out/.

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>>59460383
Video Editor and 3D Animation should have been seperated.
nvm

Photoshop CS2 is literally free and way better than freetard garbage.

>>59459363
I checked the model, its an older air, so that was probably why

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>>59440796
>using out of the box GIMP

At least install G'MIC addon you failure.

>>59468464
>due to baby duck syndrome
Yeah, since I got GIMP first Photoshop is the one that seems less intuitive to me. I hated the changes they made in 2.8 to make a bit more like Photoshop.

>>59468464
>marginal advantage

20 years old Photoshop has a marginal advantage over GIMP. 2017 photoshop has a colossal one.

>>59468524
It's not. It's just as legal to use without a license as a pirated version of the latest release.

>>59440796
If you want to draw, wait for a sale and get clip studio/manga studio... yes I know the name is cringe as fuck but it is hands down the best program for drawing/digital painting

painter gets a special mention because it emulates traditional medium, but for digital only its manga/clip studio or nothing.

>>59450330
wtf i hate gimp now

>>59461937
>>59470885
Because something unrelated to the program? If I drew fetish art of every software out there, would you stop using computers?

Dumbshits.

>>59449498
Because it's the way Windows does software and that's shit in practice.

Just switch to a rolling release distro that automagically has the latest version at all times.

>>59450337
It is possible in Arch. KDE has split up it's projects pretty well so installing Krita doesn't install much else. I assumed this was the same in other distros as KDE did this quite some time ago.

>>59474032
NOPE, pretty much gotta install KDE and Calligra if you want to run Krita, at least in Debian-based systems.

Has no one recommended photshop?

It's great.

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>>59474393

>>59468517
The 3d parts can be useful in video editing though.

>>59474369
Or you could not do that and just download the appimage.

https://krita.org/en/download/krita-desktop/

>>59443150
because sai is payed software and shit, krita is better

>>59472409
Yes. Start drawing.

>>59440796

fucking hell never heard of krita

o well i guess because of all the modular libraries and networked autism and OSS philosophy we can have nice software surprise us occasionally

just waiting for the same thing to happen to video and audio editors.

it wont take long. having fun with renoise atm

>>59477048
Doesn't Audacity work perfectly well in Linux?