/wt/ watch thread

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First for shitty 1€ natos from eBay. How do these hold up to the 10€ ones?

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Can anyone recommend me a black diver with blue on the dial like this one?
I like the color combination.

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What is your pick for best watch for a budget of $3500?

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>>59362534
only the second hand is blue but it's something

>>59362534
http://obrismorgan.com/aegisii.asp

Take your pick.

>>59362560
f91w

>>59362507
What is a reasonable price for one of these? You can get one <http://m.ebay.com/itm/282384779388> for 600$ right now, but that 80$ auction price sounds much nicer

>>59362569
>>59362563
but that's a literally who brand...

>>59362575
That's in rather poor condition to be asking $600. I got mine in pretty decent condition for $280. So just keep on the lookout for one in good condition I guess. Maybe try yahoo jp aucitons?

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>>59362534

>>59362578
Nothing inherently wrong with microbrands m8. At worst obris just sells out too fast and has long stretches of waiting for new batches.

>>59362560
G-shock or f91w

>>59362590
too blue

>>59362596
what's the point of wearing a watch that no one knows, it's like getting a patek when people only know iwc or rolex.

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>>59362560
http://m.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1961-HAMILTON-14K-GOLD-SHERWOOD-M-WOOD-DIAL-MENS-WRIST-WATCH-ULTRA-RARE-/142290911876?nav=SEARCH

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>>59362270
I'm keeping a stern watch on this thread

>>59362560
http://www.chrono24.com/rolex/explorer-i-ref-14270-mit-box-von-1996-1997--id3923613.htm

If you can find an explorer to match this price it's probably a good buy

Otherwise you have your pick of Oyster Perpetuals, older datejusts and speedies

>>59362621
>i spend my money for the enjoyment of other people

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>>59362621
>what's the point of wearing a watch that no one knows
>only caring about brand recognition from normies

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>>59362621
(you)

>>59362630
you have very pretty eyes but otherwise you are ugly as fuck

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>>59362657
I'm sorry, what were you saying again?

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>8 days since being processed at the air terminal.
How many fucking layovers is this flight making?

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>>59362692
nevermind, you deserve a watch as handsome as you, got a PO box?

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Got this odd watch from my grandmother. I replaced the battery, but it always late.
Worth fixing?

>>59362736
Not unless it really has enough sentimental value for you to want to get it working properly.

>>59362702
some greasy fat customs agent already took it home anon

>>59362707
I live with my grandma and don't know the address.

Your timeteller is very handsome, by the way.

>>59362702
>he doesn't know half of the custom office's duty is to judge the taste of each citizen of its nation

CLEARLY you have disappointed your customs officer

is crown and caliber considered gray-market?
Are they trustworthy?

lose anything like warranty wise?

>>59363121
>is crown and caliber considered gray-market?
Yes.

>lose anything like warranty wise?
They have their own warranties. Anything not by an authorized Rolex dealer (literally zero of them are online) doesn't have an official Rolex warranty.

>trustworthy?
I've never used them but they have a strong reputation. And I would certainly trust them over 95% of the fuckheads that are out there.

Only big issue is that they charge retardo prices.

>>59363248
if prices were around the middle of chrono24's listing prices would you consider it an ok buy or try and find it cheaper somewhere?

>>59363314
Never buy a Rolex based on how "cheap" you can find it, ever. Buy the seller, not the watch. And furthermore make sure they have an excellent return policy. Take it to a watchmaker immediately to confirm authenticity.

But yeah Chrono24 is a good indicator to see where prices should reasonably be around, but never just go for lower price options. I would gladly shell out an extra $1000 to Crown and Caliber than I would some ebay or Chrono24 seller with shitty pictures or an unproven, consistent record.

>>59363357
>Never buy a Rolex
ftfy

>>59362575
>What is a reasonable price for one of these?

Do you want a """real""" one or a """fake""" one.

I've used quotations because opinion is divided.

Basically there are people that will use genuine NOS parts to build """new""" watches and then sell them for $300-$400.

Then there's the """real""" vintage ones that cost loads.

>>59363357
I wasn't looking at a Rolex, I was looking at a JLC but I'm really window shopping anyway, probably won't be able to get it before it's gone

>>59363421
Mainly I want a second hand with sweeping as smooth as that. SNK803 just isn't good enough...

>>59363480
get a spring drive, it will be even better.

>>59362336
So according to this graph WUS project watches are Haute Horlogerie because they're comissioned and custom made?

>>59363484
Really don't want to pay 5000$ for one...

>>59363480
just buy the 264hz quartz remake

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>>59362621

>>59362212
I heard the 3 spokes were used to more easily get the lume to adhere to the hand. With one large circle there would be a risk that parts would fall out.

>>59362270
Why not add something about movements to a pasta?
Like http://watchbase.com/

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>"Europe"
>"My family"
>"Signet ring"
>"Nato"
>"luxury"

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Is it worth having a 3yo snk80x serviced, or just junk it for another?

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>>59363480
Get an Accutron II.

>>59363676
Why would you have it serviced after only 3 years?

>>59363668
you forgot
>pure class
>absolutely donkeys
>chuffed to bits

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>>59363691
because?

>>59363685
Ooh this one looks so nice...
https://www.amazon.com/Accutron-Bulova-Alpha-Collection-96a155/dp/B00HS60LF8/ref=sr_1_2?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1489322933&sr=1-2&nodeID=7141123011&keywords=bulova+accutron+II

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>>59363716
Forgot pic

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>>59362560
B O N D
O
N
D

>>59363676
a service would be more expensive than a new watch.
it would probably involve just swapping the movement for a new one anyway.

>>59363676
>is it broken?
>if not, don't service it

service every x years is a meme

>>59363668
https://youtu.be/pmXY7Dl_T8Y

:^)

>>59363743
>is your engine broken?
>if not, don't change the oil
oil changes are a meme

Okay let's see how smart /wt/ actually is

Name three watches that will definitely increase in value in 5-10 years.

>>59363754
Literally no one can really predict that. Aside from watches that are already very valuable like a comex sub, paul newman daytona or whatever.

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>>59363754
For the last time, jewelry isn't an investment

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How can you guys afford such nice watches? What do you do for a living?

>>59363754
Any three current smartwatches. The current ones are the pioneers of the market, nostalgia will be a thing in five years.

>>59363754
speedmaster reduced, tudor prince date/day, SKX series

I'll play your shitty game

>>59363524
>So according to this graph WUS project watches are Haute Horlogerie because they're comissioned and custom made?

Yes, yes that's exactly what it's saying. Precisely.

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>>59363655
Pic rel8ted

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>>59362336
Didn't you get the memo? We have a new chart now

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>>59363711
You want to have it serviced after only 3 years because it's dogshit?

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>>59362560
30 Daniel Wellingtons

>>59362336
>Vostok not listed as good cheap tool watches

>>59362578
lol and steinhart isn't?

>>59362560
Pelagos.

>>59364183
>>Vostok not listed as good cheap tool watches
They're terribly inaccurate and are a niche product that is hard to get in burgerland from regular shops or online stores.

>>59364360
>Terribly inaccurate
They are also terribly easy to calibrate

>niche product
In what way? They are just watches

>hard to get from regularly think you can find them in regular stores solely in Russia or ex soviet countries, so that's a weak argument, but what's this about online shops I hear? You can buy them from a couple of dedicated sites and from ebay sellers too, so where's the catch?

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New SE Amphibia.

>>59364086
That's only 12

>>59364404
You answered your own question, only the most austistic watchfag will be pleased with buying cheap ass slav shit that they have to fix right out of the package.

>>59363699
>>59363668
>not SQUALEEEEEEEEEEEEE
plebs

>>59363774
Lawyeranon is a lawyer, I assume.

>>59363754
Plastic Daytona, original Speedmasters from 1957, and original vintage Heuer Monaco

Faggot

>>59363774
most of us don't, I imagine.

the seikos and other sub-500 watches are more realistic for your average anons

>>59364420
Yeah, buy 30 from these 12 styles. That's what I recommend

>>59364422
>fix right out of the package

I might moving the goal post now, but while they can be late a whole minute in a couple of days, that's nothing too unusal for cheap automatics, not to mention that that's an extreme case, most work just fine. And of course you are not going to get a regulated chronometer for $30. That's why they are good cheap tool watches.

>>59364417
Reminds me of the 710 case.

>>59363748
fucking kek

>>59363774
Anyone can afford (almost) anything. It's all about priorities.
If you don't care about having a nice car or house, and don't spend money on traveling, you can afford a new Rolex on a basic worker's wage.

>>59363864
that sounds accurate. both the speedy reduced and all manners of tudor oysters seem to be incredibly undervalued right now.

>>59364501
Mine was running more than a minute off each day which is flat out unacceptable. But since it took five fucking weeks to show up in the first place I wasn't going to waste time with getting another.

>>59364056
or sooner, yes

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What is /wt/ wearing right now? I'll start with my Explorer

>>59364653
That makes no sense, why would you service dogshit?

Wearing my white dial original HMT Sherpa on a Vintage Bond by Geckota strap today.

>>59364701
does it have to make sense?

>>59364695
Seiko Seahorse from 1969

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>>59364695
Me too anon. The Hello Kitty dial was a little out of my budget, and I felt like I deserve better than a Pizza Hut Air King, so I stuck with the Archie signature edition (Polar!)

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>>59364695
SARB.

>>59363864
>>59364635

>speedmaster reduced

Why? It uses an ETA shit

>>59364753
Well I quess that's nice too, if you are a 40 year old man having your mid-life crisis

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>>59363748

Dear DOG

>>59364727
Ideally yes. I'm going to assume you're shit posting now and ignore you.

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>>59363774
I only own shitters

>>59364809
Do you often forget which date comes before or after the current one when you aren't wearing that orient?

>>59364834
All the time. I always forget what comes after 14. That's why I got it.

What really sucks, is that there are no numbers on the indices, so I never really know what time it is either

>>59364781
but I'm not

>>59364695
nothing since i'm at home.

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>400 dollars to spend on a watch

what do you buy?

>>59364922
SARB035

>>59364922
owlpenis

>>59364922
I save the 400, save 1600 more, and then review my options

>>59364922
right now, probably a sarb035 or a vintage dress watch. maybe a king quartz?

>>59364981
t. AC3

>>59364455
When will lawyeranon come back? :^(
Without him the quality of /wt/ threads goes south hard.

>>59364922
The only things /wt/ likes. Seiko/Seiko 5/Vostok.

Vostok is truly good quality for $30, didn't you see that anon's review above? You can buy a watch for $30! That means it's a good tool watch even though it looks like chrome plated shit. It might seem like shit but it has history and is a vintage watch! Don't you want to buy a watch made in 2017 that only deviates by a minute a day? A fantastic horological specimen.

>>59365169
>talk about expensive watches
>hurrrrr ETA shitters

>talk about expensive watches from the same company that aren't using ETA
>hurrrr ETA shitter
>refute that it isn't
>hurrr cue shit eating image for people with money

>talk about Seiko/Vostok/Sinn/Nomos fakes
>fantastic watches or great value for the money

Maybe there's a reason why he's tired of these threads. I

>>59365558
boo hoo the rich boy can't show off

>>59364922
The only good shit you can get is Chinkshit.
If you want to save cash, you can go for Alpha,
Getat, Parnis or Perpetual.

If you want to go full budget, Seagull or Beijing entry-levels are not so bad (If you care about 'heritage')

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>>59363754
1974 Omega Speedmaster Lemania 5100
1975 King Seiko 5156-8010
1967 Seikomatic-P 5106 with linen dial

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>>59365843
>$400 budget
>the only good shit you can get is chinkshit

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Looking at this 42k watch

And a 12k€ blancpain

Maybe I will get that 3k tudor

>>59366007
Does the dragon move or spit fire?

>>59365558
/wt/ has good taste in sub-$500 watches, but too many fags are clueless outside of that range.

>>59365852
Nice speedy

Tbh this thread is garbage every time I visit it.

It feels like some circlejerk over Quality watches like Rolex, Omega, ... There is nothing really else posted in this thread. The occasional seiko also pops up here in there but nothing really interesting.

I was hoping to see some unique time pieces like Le Coultre Perpetual Calenders maybe a Spring drive, Grand Seiko, Toubillions, heck anything unique really ... or some cool complications. But this does not seem to be the case.

Brands seem to be valued above anything else, and dear God you get shit flinged at you if you even mention the word ETA. The same seems to happen when I go vintage hunting on e-bay, omega's cost 1000+ while a Chronometer Zodiac with a 36000 bph gets sold for 300.

>>59366597
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Why are swiss watches considered good?
Most of them died off and were only resurrected recently for the shekels.

>>59366597
>I was hoping to see some unique time pieces like Le Coultre Perpetual Calenders maybe a Spring drive, Grand Seiko, Toubillions, heck anything unique really ... or some cool complications. But this does not seem to be the case.
There's like 150 people who post regularly in these threads, how many of them do you think can afford that kind of shit? There are several GS if you fucking lurked at all of course.

>>59366597
you are surprised random abonymous posters on a vietnamese watchmaking sweatshop can't afford 15k-50k watches, let alone new ones every thread?

I like JLC and I have talked about listing over the Master Calendar for the past three threads, I guess thats not a top tier complication but whatever guy. I guess either talk about watches you want to talk about or fuck off

>>59366597
Grand Seiko is the most posted about watch over 1000$ ITT, dumbass.
People rarely post about Rolex here compared to other watch boards.

>>59366643
But some weren't. Eg Rolex, JLC

We don't exactly shill FAG heuers here

>>59365558
>Being this bootyblasted

Don't even try and imply that /wt/ hates on all expensive watches. In reality, no one in these threads who isn't shitposting hates on brands that make good quality watches with good designs sold at a reasonable price-to-quality ratio.

Just look at the brands that /wt/ almost never talks shit about, regardless of how expensive they are: Vostok, Orient, Seiko, Damasko, Sinn, Tudor, Rolex, Grand Seiko, Jaeger LeCoultre, Girard Perregaux, Piaget, Vacheron Constantin, Patek Phillipe, A. Lange & Sohne

Contrast that with the brands lots of people on /wt/ talk shit about: Invicta, Chris Ward, The Swatch Group, various other ETA powered China cased watches, Panerai, IWC, Hublot, etc.

What do most of the latter group share in common? They often don't care much if at all about horology, they usually have little or no respect for established watch design traditions, they absolutely minimize manufacturing costs while spending lavishly on advertising targeting non-watch people with totally invented ((((prestige)))), and they care only and solely about extracting every penny they can from those customers at the highest possible margin.

That is to say, the companies in this group are predatory. They deliberately use advertising to target people outside the hobby and try and get them to buy watches with horrible price-to-quality ratios using colourful, bold, oversized designs that are not at all in keeping with watch design traditions but which DO appeal to normies.

That's why those companies deserve nothing but scorn. Instead of making a quality product at a fair price, they instead making a living by preying on the uninformed and easily shilled who can be tricked into believing the messages created entirely by advertising.

>>59366597
What are you talking about? If anything, /wt/ probably has the most diverse tastes in watches and the least brand whoring of any watch forum on the internet.

The practical reality is just that the overwhelming majority of posters in these threads cannot afford to buy $10k+ watches, but we still discuss them semi-regularly.

>>59367532
most anyone who isn't already in debt can afford to save for at least one 10k watch if they really want it and are willing to save for extended periods

>>59367679
Most anyone wouldn't see the value of buying a 10k watch.

>>59367454
>Damasko, Sinn, Tudor
ETA packagers, current or former

>The Swatch Group, IWC
Predatory companues, but no contributions to horology?

Most (watch) companies are predatory, but you are just shitting around with your arbitrary classification.

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>>59367839
Gee, I wonder why no one talks shit about an ETA 2892-A2 powered Sinn at $1,200 but does about an IWC at $3,150??? It's truly a mystery.

>>59367839
>a movement is the only thing of value in a watch
we already told you to stop that bad meme anon

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Guys help, I'm starting to want one.

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>>59367839
What are you exactly expecting here? If you want your watch hugbox read hodinkee reviews or go to r/watches

>>59367679
I have the cash to buy several $10k watches, but I know the diminishing returns of value from buying such a watch.

Even if I won the lotto and had tens of millions of dollars, I probably would not buy a $10k watch. A couple $3-4k watches maybe, but the rolexes and Patek, and JC watches are for people who don't actually work and want a brand name on their wrist to say they've spent that kind of money on jewelry. They're not interested in horology or the craftsmanship that may or may not have gone into them.

Its the same shit as cars or houses; the people that buy the million dollar cars or 10 million dollar houses appreciate them for how good they are, but not for how much craftsmanship went into them.

>>59367759
>>59367973
like I said
>if they really want it

>>59368007
And people on welfare living in the ghetto still get mercedes with $5000 wheels and new iphones and 80" TVs every year, but complain about their section 8 housing and the cost of gas.

Were you just pointing out that people can afford nice things despite being poor?

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>>59367973
What the fuck am I reading???

>everyone who owns a patek doesn't appreciate horology
>everyone who drives a Ferrari doesn't appreciate cars

We're sorry, true enthusiasts wear seiko 5s and drive honda accords

>>59367951
Just calling out an inconsistent faggot.

I'm for shitting on watches like FAG and Panerai that really deserve it, not for shitting on the moonwatch just because it happens to be produced by Swatch.

>>59367454

>muh horology
>muh tradition
>muh prestige

fuck off TGV

>>59367950
See >>59362575 and >>59363716

>>59368031
I mean, yes. if you follow the chain of replies you might understand the conversation

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Why wont this piece of shit software give me any readings?

I've got a piezo mic clipped directly onto the back case.

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>>59368098
I don't think many people here would shit on the moonwatch, maybe the practice of buying brand new as they don't want to give Swatch any money.

Mostly just jealous poorfags, even last thread there was people ripping on Pateks. It's 4chan afterall

>>59368562
my beef with patek is that 90% of the time for any given model of Patek, there is a JLC I'd rather have for much less money.

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>tfw my Memegul 1963 looks better than my Seiko Meminist

It cost $100 more I was expecting it to look $100 better.

I mean I'm happy it's in my collection but I thought the most expensive watch I owned I'd like the most.

>>59368562
the speedmaster might as well be a tag product. it's good, but it's twice the price it should be because of marketing.

>>59368633
Why would you expect that? They're totally different styles to begin with.

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>>59368584
Hey I'm with you there. I do prefer JLCs. But I had all the money in the world there would absolutely be a Patek in my collection

Out of holy trinity pieces I'd take a VC any day

>>59368658
Partially due to price rises, partially due to demand. It's only natural Omega would try and milk it. You're right, they are overpriced, but still cool

>>59368714
what's that blue watch? i thought it was a raketa copernic for a second, which would have been surprising in this company

>>59368658
Excellent value for $3k if you compare to the alternatives, and good resale value. Only drawback is the cam chrono instead of a column wheel.

No comparison with tagshit

>>59368785
>Excellent value for $3k if you compare to the alternatives,

Isn't that because all the alternatives have meme inflated prices too?

A mechanical chronograph movements don't cost that much to manufacture. Seagull manage it.

>>59367950
>most accurate watch at the time
>no hacking
What's the point?

I've fallen in love with a Vostok
Specifically the one with the submarine on the blue background .

Where is it best to order from?
I live in Europe

>>59368714
I'd say A Lange Sohne and JLC deserve a spot in top bracket (consisting of the holy trinity) but that's just me

>>59368714
What is 2nd from left on the bottom row?
Looks really nice.

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>>59368749
A fake. Like all of those. I just realised now after checking the source of the photo.

But the watch it is copying is the Celestial 5102.
The dial is meant to represent the night sky visible from Geneva. Probably one of the most gorgeous looking Pateks in my opinion

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>>59368875
Yeah I think AP is on its way down. JLC is a very deserving contender but remember it's swiss so no Lange but langes are a whole different breed altogether.
>>59368879 see >>59368908

>>59368785
no it's not good value. and the resale price shouldn't matter in the initial pricing.

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>>59368908
Stunning. This is what I would buy if I was a richfag.

>>59368864
meranom
zenitar or shme on ebay

>>59369029
shmek*

>>59368908
now that's a weird-ass watch.

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Patek make some fuckng invicta tier looking watches

>>59369048
the grandmaster chime looks like total ass too yeah
still a super neat watch

>>59368828
Seagull should be lauded for making a cheap column wheel movt, but there's more to a watch than the movement type.

>>59369002
>no it's not good value. and the resale price shouldn't matter in the initial pricing.
Then provide a worthy substitute with better value.

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>>59368864
Got mine from shmek, cheap and reasonable delivery time considering customs

>>59369138
Did it go through customs?

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>>59368714

Fuck I want a Nautlis bad. Love the look of it. Why is it so fucking expensive? Name only? A Rolex is already overpriced, but a PP doesn't offer much better quality.

And off topic to this, how do I go about buying a used Rolex?

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>>59369152
Not with any costs or taxes, but yes goods coming from Russia into the EU need to clear certain customs

>pic is pre bezel swap

>>59369295
So I assume it was marked as a present?
Or just declared with low price?

>>59369315
Nah mate it was about 28 euros plus postage. No taxes on such a low cost item in my country

Doubt many countries would try ping you on a Vostok

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>>59369024
there's always the quartz pleb version

What watches do you have on your "want" list at the moment, /wt/?

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>>59369561

>>59362578
obris morgan seems to be one of the more sought after microbrand divers
i'll probably pull the trigger on one of these when they're released.

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>>59369561
This plus maybe a Citizen 8180 if I ever see it sold in Europe.

>>59369503
wait where can i get that watch?

>>59369029
>>59369138
Thanks

Anything I should be aware about?

>>59369649
It's the Accurist Celestial, which is a rebrand of the citizen astrodea (same movement also found in the campanola cosmosign). It comes in both a 35N and a 50N version. They have been out of production for about a decade. Took me about a year to find one, but of course, there's one on amazon at the moment. The model listed as GMT117USA should be the 35N version, but the picture is of a 50N version.

Avoid any lookalikes with a crown at 10 oclock and a cheaper price - these don't actually have a working stardial; you have to use the knob at 10 to turn the star dial yourself.

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>>59369561
My first Seiko. I want a vintage model that I can tinker with and restore, right now I'm torn between an Elnix and the 6106 5Actus.

Also a question to /wt/. Pic related is a strong contender for me, but as you can see the case is kinda busted up. Would a good twenty minutes with some Cape Cod cloth help conceal most of the digs or the only way to make the surface passable is to destroy the shape of the case with machine polishing?

The crystal is no biggie, all it needs is a replace or even some Polywatch, the dial under it seems fine.

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>Incredibly slow beat rate 1 beat per second
>Accurate to 2 seconds per week

How did they do it?

>>59369295
How hard is it to change the bezel. And are they interchangeable between all the Komandirskie models?

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>>59369918
>comparing a fucking gigantic clock mechanism to wristwatch movements
>How did they do it?
Gee, it's a real mystery, innit?

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>>59369792

>>59370042
And here I was, expecting Purity Seals on the fucking thing after reading that text.

>>59369918
>File says BigBen
>Picture is Elizabeth Tower
?????

>>59368510
I told you to just buy a timegrapher. You didn't listen. This is the future you chose.

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>>59370043

>>59368510
I remember you, you just bought shit parts on impulse without taking thirty minutes to look into it.

Mine works fine. Also check your sound mixer, inputs, whatever. I use Linux though, so I can't hold your hand.

>>59370135
I bought what was recommended.

>>59370185
Then your just dumb :^)

>>59363774
network engineer

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>>59369792
>>59370043
thanks also im jelly as fuck haha

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>>59369561

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>>59369908
Anyone? Our local Seiko experts/autists? What was the natural finish of these, polished or some sating/blasted?

>>59370509
Crystals aren't easy to replace, but its got case damage with, if properly done requires machining.

The movement is anyone's guess. Maybe just a winding, maybe needs replacement. Then add whatever band you want.

>>59370509
Crystal replacement and movement service/repair is no problem, I'm a watch repairer. Case is the only thing I'm unsure of. So just a simple polishing cloth and buffing wheel wouldn't be enough? I'M not expecting NOS quality, just it being presentable.

>>59370509

Nasty!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t086Ah8Nkm0

>>59370610
Accidentally replied to myself, meant for >>59370583

>>59368115
Your reading comprehension needs a little work if you think that's what I am saying or that a paid shill like TGV (who markets his YouTube channel exactly the same way and to the same demographic that several of the brands I complained about do) would agree with what I said.

>>59370610
presentable to whom? There is material missing with significant wear and modest abuse to the case. a buffing of it will make it look bright and shiny again, but it'll still be missing material with large dents and scratches in it.

>>59370838
Alright.

But presentable as in I wouldn't vomit on my own wrist every time I look at it.

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>>59369953
5 minute job, most Komandirskie or Amphibia bezels will fit. There may be some that don't though I'm not sure.
>>59369295
I did the same bezel swap on mine, the dots and dashes bezel is much nicer.

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>>59369635
I got mine from the UK retailer Argos years ago.

>>59369561
Explorer 1 & 2
Pelagos
Calatrava
Turtle
MOTFM
A tuning fork of some sort

Only the Turtle is realistic though, maybe the tuning fork too.

>>59368098
As I pointed out here >>59367860 there is no inconsistency. The problem is not the use of ETA movements honestly in reasonably priced watches. The problem is re-naming them to obscure what they are and then trying to fob off watches with them for 3x-10x what they should cost.

As for the MOTFM, I will point out that $4,000 for a non-hacking, manual wind, cam actuated chronograph with very basic dial/case finishing and a nasty China made bracelet is indeed extortionist in precisely the ways Swatch often gets shit on for.

>>59368785
Excellent value? Are you quite serious? Are you somehow unaware that the Seiko 8RXX and Breitling B01 offer automatic, column wheel, vertical clutch chronographs for the same money or less? or that Lemania 5100 Speedmasters can be had for new MOTFM money? Too bad, but I don't think a 321 MOTFM can be gotten for the price.

>>59370880
Even if you replace the crystal and hit it with the buffing wheel, its still going to be beat to hell. Just price the crystal well, and monitor the amount of time you spend polishing it up.

Spending hours and hours restoring a $50 watch just doesn't make sense unless its got sentimental value.

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>>59371060
I work as a watchmaker and fix up my own watches as a hobby. That's why I don't just buy a new 7S26 Seiko 5, there's nothing to do with it.

But yeah, I'll just find an other 5Actus then. Like pic, looks like this one just has scratches.

>>59370509
You are going to have to give me an exact model number that is listed on the caseback if you want me to see what I can dig up on the case finishes.

>>59371155
Filename. 6106-8460.

>>59369635
What is that red part at the top?

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Never paint watch hands by hand, holy fuck.

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>>59371182

It would appear based on the following images that all the surfaces on that case-style visible from the front had a polished finish as in pic related:

http://antiquewatchat.blogspot.com/2011/12/seiko-5actus-6106-8460-s5aa39.html

http://image5.brandear.jp/image1/0/17141283_2.jpg

http://image5.brandear.jp/image1/0/17141283_1.jpg

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I just reset my watch for daylight savings time. I'm ahead 1.5 seconds since the DST change in the fall. My watch cost $110

Why are you spergs defending shitty obsolete tech? inb4 MUH CRAFTSMANSHIP on a 6R15 made by robot slaves in a Malasyian slum

>>59371972
Because we like it. Plain and simple.

>>59371972
If that Bulova is yours can you give a model name?

>>59371361
Did you use a brush, or a toothpick?
Enamel based paints should be thin enough to where you can apply them in the same way as you would lubricate a movement.

>>59372032
There are a few variants, if you google 96B230 or Accutron 2 military you should be able to find what you're after

>>59371972
If you actually believed that you wouldn't spend your time making cognitive dissonance assuaging shitposts on a Singaporean shadow-puppet symposium.

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>>59362630
That's not funny

>>59372062
Believed what? That my watch is better than yours?

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>>59369561
Of the things I actually plan on getting: seiko 5740 with linen dial or seiko 6245/6246, omega speedsonic, halios seaforth. "Eventually" tier: snow frake, chronometre bleu.

>>59372226
That your disposable throwaway zero effort shitter was better than mechanical watches. If you actually believed your Bulova was so awesome you wouldn't be defensively shitposting about it here.

By the way, I've handled one of those Bulova's in real life and they are cheap, nasty garbage.

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>>59369561
Vintage Omega 56x or 75x
Aevig Valkyr

>>59372399
The only one being defensive here is you, anon. Sorry about the buyer's remorse
>>59372338
Don't buy a snowflake, seiko doesn't stock parts beyond 10 years, you're buying a liability memewatch. If you're going to spend that much on a watch buy a rolex, at least they stand behind their products for the long haul

>>59371184
The setting for the alarm.

>>59372461
>seiko doesn't stock parts beyond 10 years

[citation needed]

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Since all I posted yesterday was shitty cell phone pics

>>59372521
http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?272841-Grand-Seiko-10-year-limit-What-do-you-make-of-this

>>59372423
>Aevig Valkyr

Had a colleague who got one in bronze, it's a neat little piece. Good domed crystal, wears smaller than you might expect.

>>59372461
What's that now, three posts about you totally love your utterly forgettable mallwatch? Also, please list which parts you believe would be expected to need to be replaced when a spring drive movement is serviced?

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>>59372630

Nasty, nasty little shitter.

>>59372655
Not him, but fuck off. It's a very nice watch for the money.

>>59372461
You'd have to believe seiko would discontinue the 9R65 right now for it to only have a 10 year lifespan. Or hell, the spring drive movement in general. Neither of which I really think is going to happen anytime soon.

>>59372688
I fuckin' love it

>>59372035
Screwdriver. It is enamel paint, and this time I thinned it as well, but that doesn't stop it from clumping almost immediately, yet then takes forever to actually harden.

>>59372645
>three posts about
Just two so far, how upsetting is it to you that my watch is more accurate than a Grand Seiko which, if you could afford it (you can't) would just be mistaken for a $100 mall seiko?

>Also, please list which parts you believe would be expected to need to be replaced when a spring drive movement is serviced?
It really depends on what happens in those 10 years, all it takes is a little humidity getting inside or a fall, and it's a surprise what happens next. Damaged balance staff (it's a small balance wheel but it could still happen), corrosion on any of the ferrous parts or the IC, itto issa ano supulaisuro! Have fun sourcing a donor watch from eBay and sending it off to Spencer Klein if he's still around by then :^)

>>59372840
So, where did they announce they planned to stop making the current 9R65 movement, or spring drive movements in general?

>No-nowhere

Ah, so you are just ass pulling this ooga booga out of thin air then, and can safely be dismissed.

>>59372904
It seems you're really emotionally attached to the idea of buying a spring drive. That's fine, Seiko is a fine company and they deserve your money. As long as you don't mind, as you put it, "mall watch" support on a $6000 watch, you won't be disappointed.

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>>59372984

>6k on a jap mall watch
>not buying a rolex instead

I will never understand these idiot nutters on this board.

>>59372984
I'm not the anon who wanted to buy the snowflake. I just happened to notice that you were talking complete nonsense since there is nothing to suggest Seiko will stop making the 9R65 in the foreseeable future, or that if they ever do introduce a new spring drive movement, that parts from it wont be compatible.

>>59373025
You're right, you probably never will understand.

Grand Seiko's are built to a higher standard of manufacturing precision, quality, hand finishing, hand inspection and hand assembly than Rolexes are. The Swiss watch industry remains so afraid of Seiko that when they recently revived the chronometer trials they specifically wrote the rules to keep Seiko out since they were terrified of getting utterly BTFO'd again like they did in the 1960s.

>>59373088
Yes the Swiss are so afraid of Japan that they provide better service than Seiko. Hmm.... better go buy a Seiko just to stick it to "the man"

>>59371972
Do the new accutron's have that signature high pitch buzzing sound during normal operation?

What a shame they don't have a really cool mechanism with a see through design still.

>>59373273
No they don't

>>59373273
No, it's dead silent

You don't want to look at the internals. It's bad enough when people slap a display back on a shitty 6R15 or ETA2826 (yes even the elabore examples with the grey slot in the fake "blued" screws, even more so with those) but this thing is basically the epitome of function over form. It's a grubby looking mess of plastic and a battery inside. And yet, it outperforms a Grand Seiko where an old Japanese man autistically polished the rotor so that the owner can chuck it in the garbage 10 years from now alongside my Bulova which kept better time and won't cause any butthurt when it's time to chuck and buy a new one

>>59373332
I mean a cool mechanism like the original Accutron as depicted here >>59362507

>>59373358
It's just a higher beat quartz watch, in short.

>>59373358
That appears to be a vintage accutron, it's a completely different watch. The modern accutron uses a 262khz quartz oscillator for timing and the second hand runs at 16 beats per second.

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>>59373191
Thank you for admitting that >>59373025 was you samefagging.

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>>59373928
It's a "everyone on the internet who I don't like is a samefag" episode

>>59373952
Ah yes, because you didn't respond to >>59373088
exactly as if you'd written >>59373025.

>>59373191
You really have no idea what you are talking about with respect to parts availability. Just because Seiko *may* stop selling replacement parts for a movement 10 years after they cease producing a movement (and the linked article notes they are considering revising that policy) does not mean that those parts will suddenly become unavailable the day after they stop officially stocking them.

In reality, there will continue to be NOS parts available for the movement until all the existing stocks run out. When you consider that in the course of normal wear and tear and normal servicing of GS movements, there should be no need to replace any parts, then that suggests that the stock of spare parts should only be depleted by infrequent major repairs.

Thus, it's quite likely that the parts supply will last for quite a long number of years after official stocking of those parts is ended. Just look at how many NOS parts remain available for Seikos from the 1960s and 1970s.

Also, as an owner of several vintage mechanical watches, the only part besides crystals I've ever needed to replace was a chrono reset spring in a Lemania 5100. Otherwise not a single one of my vintage mechanicals from the 1960s and 1970s has needed any parts when being serviced.

>>59373376
This couldn't be more wrong.

>>59374231
It's literally true. The crystal oscillates at a higher frequency, and the seconds hand advances at a higher frequency.

>>59369561
>What watches do you have on your "want" list at the moment, /wt/?

JLC Geophysic 1958
Rolex Explorer I (ref. 12470)
Rolex Pepsi GMT
Patek Philippe Calatrava

I have expensive tastes but a small budget.

>>59367950
Get one. I love mine.
It's a bitch to get serviced though. And is costly.

>>59374448
where do you get it serviced?

>>59374486
Any jewler

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>>59374604
Most jewelers wont even know what it is.

>>59367973
>being this retarded
SHAME

>>59373979
Is this like some shitty kind of damage control or what?
>>59374126
No, it doesn't mean parts will suddenly become available, but when they're already warning people that they're not stocking beyond 10 years, for a niche watch that uses a proprietary technology basically unknown to your neighborhood WOSTEP graduate, maybe, just maybe it's not the best purchase when you can buy a Rolex where even if they stop officially stocking parts (which they won't), even if you can't find the part on the aftermarket (highly unlikely), even if Rolex tells you to fuck off (protip: this will not happen), the watch has the same operating principles as any other watch and therefore getting it repaired is a non-issue. But hey if you want to be the guinea pig and buy a Spring Drive go for it, I'm all for other people spending money. Not mine to say what to do with.
>as an owner of several vintage mechanical watches
>Lemania
Oh you mean a watch that you can buy NOS donors for by the truckload? That Lemania 5100? Good argument, you really convinced me to buy a Snowflake.

What do you guys use to clean your watches?
Just an ordinary microfiber cloth?

>>59374850
Jeweller's Rouge, Autosol and a soft bristle toothbrush

>>59374642
This, you have to find someone that is fimilar with then. Any jewler couldn't be wronger.
It's a lot of calling and stopping in stores.

>>59364809
What bracelet is on the Orient Union?

>>59375209
That's one of orient's stock bracelets. It uses folded end links but otherwise solid links. Overall feels decently comfortable.

>>59374726
Vintage watches I've had serviced:

1967 Seikomatic-P 5106
1971 Seiko LM Special 5206-6020
1971 Seiko LM Special 5206-6061
1974 Lemania 5100 Speedmaster
1975 King Seiko 5256-8010

Total number of parts required: One chrono reset spring, a couple of NOS crystals (generics could have been used but NOS crystals were available).

Again: Movements do not normally require replacement parts in a regular service unless they are cuck-axials.

Assuming Seiko stopped making the 9R65 in 10 years I would assume you'd have no trouble getting parts for at least another 20 years after that.

>>59375534
Even if they did stop making the 9R65, it might still have compatible components in other spring drive movements they're still making.

>>59375534
Too bad I threw my Seikos after 10 years of use for Tudors and Rolexes

>I regret nothing.

>>59375534
>I had some watches sent to the jiffy lube therefore buy seiko!
Not really sure what you're trying to argue here. It seems like you think replacing parts on a clean and lube is a normal thing to do? In what way do you imagine that your post about numerous conventional watches pertains to the future repair prospects of a watch made of proprietary tech including ICs and electromagnetic escapements?

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what are some good chronographs under $200?

>>59375823
closest is probably a seagull 1963 in the $2xx range

>>59375823
Alpha and Parnis

>>59375823
>chronographs

What do people use chronograph on their watch for? Why don't they use a more accurate and detailed digital timer instead?

>>59368633
post a side by side

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Any reason why I should go for a Karabo model 86301-1?

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>>59376749
>Comes with sick lume on the star constellations

>>59367454
>putting IWC beside Pam and Hublot

spotted the horological pleb

>>59364753
i dont see the appeal in rolex. they are dull. Its like audi cars.

>>59376764
holy shit i need this

>>59369561
Vintage Seiko penis quartz
Autodromo Group B
Damasko DA38
Nomos Metro
A Lange & Sohne Datograph

>>59375823

Seiko Cal. 7T92

>>59376764
That's pretty neat

>looking at "ladies" watch straps because my wrists are so small
It's kinda emasculating, but whatever....
Anyways, apart from the length and maybe the thickness.. what the fruitcake is the difference?

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Does this band colour work at all with the watch face? Just wearing this casually. Before this I was using a black NATO band.

>>59377241
Width.

>>59377586
i don't think it looks that great, but if it matches some parts of your outfit, it could redeem itself

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>>59369561
Rolex Sub
IWC Portugieser
Omega Seamaster Spectre

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>>59370944
Agreed, then someone gave me an Amphibia so now I have two. Almost wish I had picked a different bezel

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>>59372630
S E X Y
E
X
Y

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>>59369561

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>>59369561

>>59378059
>literally who brand whose claim to fame is a commercialized publicity stunt with red bull

I don't get the love for this watch. I've also seen the chronograph in action and it's incredibly sputtery.

>>59378316
>Their claim to fame
Not really.

>>59377241
Just buy a short strap.
Although I sometimes wish I was a woman to be able to wear a double wrap strap, I think they're a great look.

>>59378380
>Just buy a short strap.
Trust me I've looked, I've literally only found 1 that is what I'm after. but I'm not getting it because the postage cost is too much.
If you can find me a 18mm short black leather one (exotic leather maybe too if it is not too expensive) I'd be very happy.
Take into account I only have a $120 watch, so I'm not willing to spend $80 to get one custom made.

>>59378529
Once you get a strap, you can move it around to other watches in the future. Just saying.

>>59378380
>2017
not just grafting the watch head directly onto living flesh

>>59378841
Thread spring bars thru a pierced wrist?

>>59378797
Yeah I prolly wouldn't mind spending more if I knew I would get another watch that the band would go on, but I'm pretty sure my next watch is gonna be a diver which I wont want leather.. and the one after that isn't gonna be 18mm.

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Can anyone ID this seiko?

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>>59378863
that's so provincial.

>>59378316
What did he mean by this?

>>59378913
I'd put money on that being an aftermarket bezel. I bet if you google for "Seiko 5 Yatchmaster mod" or you'll find it or watches like it.

>>59378913
SEIKO 5 SRP755

>>59378970
look at that, I would have lost money.

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>>59378988
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>>59378996
Nice