/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>59358549
>Making a new thread while the old one is still up

>>59358742
>being autistic

>>59358742
The old one had hit the bump limit

>>59358759
Hes too autistic to understand that concept

Any recommended M.2 SSDs? Are they worth the slight premium over a normal SATA SSD?

This is my build (added a Crucial M.2 SSD I'm looking at):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F348Cy

My board supports M.2 natively. I've never dealt with M.2 drives before, but from my research they're significantly faster than SATA SSDs.

>>59358796
How long ago did you buy all this shit

btw samsung 960 evos are the best m.2 drives

>>59358796
If you really have a need for speed (nice meme), you might as well go with an NVMe PCIE SSD

>>59358837
throughout years (about 2)
it's my current build

thx senpai

>>59358847
eh my GPU takes up the pcie space and besides, the motherboard is M.2 compatible so why not

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vXZbr7
>good deals halved total price; paid about $500

>>59359110
Are you trolling?

>>59359110
Must be a joke build

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>>59358549
>Building
You retards ain't building shit. You're just assembling gayming machines from cheapest chink garbage you can buy with the monthly allowance from your parents.

PS: Lain was a Mac user.

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REEEEEEEEEEEE WHY DOES JEWTEL LIKE TO ANGER ME SO MUCH
>i7-6700K perfect for my needs except for one thing
>BEST RAM IT CAN RUN IS 2133
>i7-7700K is too overpowered for my needs but can run gud RAM
Should I be cockblocked by low RAM speeds or by high prices /g/?

>>59359265
Overclock your RAM, just turn RAM profile to XMP. It may take some more voltage depending on your speed but it's generally pretty easy.

>>59359260
Lain was a linux user

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>>59359315
fucking retard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Experiments_Lain#Apple_computers

>>59359265

That's not how it works.

The RAM runs at 2133mhz by default. You overclock it to get higher speeds. 3200mhz DDR4 is the exact same as 2133mhz DDR4, except the 3200mhz stuff is binned to be able to overclock to at least 3200mhz.

Get the 6700k and buy whatever RAM you want. Just go into BIOS and enable the XMP profile. It's a preset overclocking profile that will give you the advertised speed on your RAM.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6kqqQV
any tips?

>>59359359
remov this

>>59359498
stop being poor

>>59359296
>>59359362
What? The CPU specs says it can handle up to DDR4 2133 memory

I have a GTX 970 and an i5 4690k. looking to do an upgrade soon.

im guessing it makes more sense to get a CPU first, and then a GPU 6 months down the line? (not buying both same time)

the 1080 looks like a solid card to keep for a few years, but how much power do i need to power that beast?

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>>59360024

>>59360040
Use El Goog and just fucking look up psu calculator

>>59360024
thats the minimum you retard.

>>59360024
CPU determines default RAM speed, your motherboard determines maximum speed. Skylake supports 2133, Kaby Lake supports 2400, but you can overclock higher.

>>59360040
>upgrade from a GTX 970
Honest question that isn't related to this post, what exactly requires a card higher than 970 to play at 1080p these days?

>>59360245
im getting into VR soon

Is zotac a good brand?

Best value card for 1080p? My old gpu just died.

So I'll be trying to buid a quiet computer. So met me confirm my methodology with you guys.
Please give me some tips if I have forgotten anything.

>Choose quiet internal components
Biggest CPU and GPU coolers I can find. Not water cooled to avoid pump noise.
Only SSDs in the computer, HDDs on network storage.
PSUs with a higher 80+ rating produce less heat and will require less cooling. Try to get one that only uses it's fan as needed.

>Use software to controll fans
Off when unnnecesary, spin up as appropriate

>Quiet case
I don't know the criteria very well, so I will probably just get something that is popular. Like a Define R5.

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hand-me-down server from my old job. Plan on using it as a media server (kodi) and for storing backups. 8tb on a raid 6. I'm also re purposing 2 2tb wd reds on a raid 1 for critical backups.

Also plan to reinstall OS with Windows Server 2016 to play with AD, Window Containers, etc.

roast me /g/

inb4 [insert your fav flavor of linix]

>>59360484
>quiet computer
attach a CPU cooler to the GPU
don't mount the fans directly onto the heatsinks
wow u done it

What are viable motherboard companies right now? Still just best to stick with Asus, or what?

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Totally not a scam guis
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i3-7350K-Kaby-Lake-4-2GHz-LGA-1151-Boxed-Processor-22-/282391563584?hash=item41bfd94d40:g:POwAAOSw4A5YxBHt

I wonder if they're stolen.

>>59360987
It's a stolen account retard, third worlders crack the accounts, use them to sell bogus shit at low prices and then they run off with the money
>b-but muh refunds

>>59361137
>then they run off with the money
How could they with how locked down paypal is? Unless they get the stupid fucks to pay by another way.

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Upgrading from a 650, which is worth it, a GTX 1060 or 1070?

>>59361469
if you can afford a 1070 get it if you can't get a 1060
>>59360875
all motherboard companies are "viable", if you've had good experiences with Asus then stick with them. I use Gigabyte boards personally.
>>59360468
480 or if you don't like amd then a 1060
>>59360430
zotac are just okay

>>59358549
What are decent quality but still cheap monitors to use in conjunction with one another? Probably 25 inches or above. I'm fairly tall and I have a poorfag desk so it would be nice to be able to adjust the tilt of the screen.

>>59361165
>paypal
>locked down
oh no a 20 day delay in getting your money

>>59361469
>>59361577

id say 1070, or an RX480 8gb

>>59360987
Holy fuck.. I have the non edited version of that image. And I mean I've kept it for at least 20 plus years. Never seen it elsewhere, don't know where it's from or where I got it.

>>59361469
RX 480

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pTPDKZ
R a t e my build
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Hello /g/uys. I really dislike alot of you and your close minded shitty advice most of the time but I love the stary eyed kid about to order his first parts list

so uh I wanted to sell my 6600k for a 7700k because I have a specific use case and need the best possible single threaded performance and the 4.7 -> 5.1ghz upgrade would have been worth

but the 6600k is dirt fucking cheap on ebay. you can use z270 boards too so that's cool. good value for a build.

>>59361717
Well, you going to post it?

>>59361957
You should ask the starry eyed kid for advice. Everyone else thinks you're a fuckhead now.

>>59361957
yeah same boat, i needed single thread above all. i went the 7700 route, run at 4.7 for now. very snappy.

>>59361978
what a tragedy

Why is it so hard to reliably hit 120fps 1080p stable
I keep upgrading and i can't do it

>>59362020
stop "upgrading" and get 4xsli 1080tis poorfag

>>59362062
I bet you if I had SLI 1080ti's and a 6950x/1800x with quad channel ddr4 4266, raid0 nvme storage, and 1ms ping I would go below 120fps in my game

>>59362107
Just for reference, which game is it?

>>59362129
youre gonna laugh at me tho :(

>>59362138
Maybe you are doing something wrong, and we might be able to help.
This is an anonymous imageboard and you have nothing to lose posting the name.

>>59362161
It's world of warcraft. It's beyond frustrating really. The game is very large but it comes down to 4 distinct "modes" in generic terms.
Old open world: Really like the first 3 or 4 expansions, no problem, always a million FPS.
New open world: Graphically very demanding. Dip below 60fps on a 1060 6g @2170/2500mhz Delidded [email protected] and ddr4 3600 c15 with 7/10 settings.
City: The worst. Constantly l;ow and spikey fps never above 80. It's the player density.
Dungeon: No problems, 160ish fps.

I need to do testing. How ram frequency affects fps. Need a ryzen to test thread scaling. GPU to CPU balance etc.

It's the only game I've played in the last 10 years.

>>59362198
>It's the only game I've played in the last 10 years
Jeez dude, I'm not laughing, I'm deeply saddened.
Your gpu is the bottleneck. But is it worth spending whatever it will be in your home country for a 1080 just for WoW?

>>59362219
Yes I need 120fps minimums. The problem is I'm not convinced it actually is the GPU. I feel strongly that if I order a 1080 right now my city FPS wont increase at all. Trivial area fps will go up. It's something with new content/textures that's taxing a certain part of the system and I cannot find what it is. CPU usage 40% across 4 threads, gpu usuage low when fps is low. My ram bandwidth should be good I have a top tier kit but maybe quad channel will help

>>59362245
Your city FPS wont increase no matter what, that's the fault of both the engine and outdated coding practices.

>>59362324
what this man said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3th4sBnuS0
The draw call code is beyond terrible and is not solveable in the slightest unless you possibly get one of those modern single Xeon's that you could overclock to 6.0GHz

>>59360245
Nier Automata recommends a 980
Hopefully it'll look better than the PS4 trash

>>59360987
>>59361717
>>59361964
>>>/co/90650169

What GPU should be paired with a G4560?

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is 6700K/1070 a good combo for 1440p gaming? Emulation also.

>>59362496
R7 250X for $75, according to Logical Increments site.

>>59362524
dumb question
yes
just get a good noctua cooler with that and oc to 5ghz

>>59362550
There is "emulation also" on that post. Would this be a job for that 7K something?

>>59362581
are you retarded or baiting

I've checked pretty much all benchmarks and info available for both, but even weeks after I started looking into building myself a new computer I'm still lost on what to finally decide on. Worth saying I have no interest in overclocking and already decided on getting 2400mhz RAM.

>i7-7700 + B250 = 405€~
>i7-7700K + Z270 + Custom Cooler = 510€~

Positive points for going with the 7700 :
>I can save 100€ (more depending on whether I end up buying an expensive cooler or not - above is 30€ cooler).
>It might run cooler and consume less power.

Positive points for going with the 7700K :
>Noticeably more powerful than the 7700 even without OC.
>Less chance of regretting it due to being the best and possibility of overclocking in 4-5 years down the road if needed.

I have a feeling the problem might be psychological, with me wanting the best possible hardware I can get no matter what even if I do not even get the best use out of it. It's true when looking at statistics the 7700K is constantly noticeably ahead but... wouldn't a 7700 work as well for anything I plan on doing in the end? Perhaps the 7700 might serve me very well without any problem whatsoever for the next 4-5 years and going with the K version would be a waste of money. Though so far from what I've seen the 7700 might be as powerful as an i7-4790K which might be laughable since it's 3-4 years old :
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700/2384vs3887
but I don't know if that particular link is worth a lot or not.

Please help me decide.

>>59362846
>Worth saying I have no interest in overclocking

Why not? It's easy.

>>59362888
I don't need 5ghz to emulate gamecube games or play pixel games. Hell even games as of now don't need that much ghz.

Are you people just overclocking just to milk yourselves over or what?

>>59362550
>and oc to 5ghz
Why the fuck are you OCing a 7700K that came out two months ago? What for? I'm genuinely curious.

hey /g/ I'm going to upgrade my GPU. I've found a sapphire RX 470 nitro+ 8GB and a sapphire RX 480 nitro 4GB. Both of them cost exactly the same so which one should I get?

>>59362903
>Are you people just overclocking just to milk yourselves over or what?

I overclock because I want to get every ounce of performance I can get out of the hardware I buy. Why would I buy a CPU and not take advantage of its full potential?

Frankly you sound like a bit of a fucking retard.

The 7700k's max turbo speed is 4.5ghz. The 7700's is 4.2ghz. The 7600k's is 4.2ghz as well, while the 7600's is 4.1ghz. Unless you need hyper threading there is no point in buying the locked i7 (or frankly the i7 at all). Clock-for-clock these CPUs are the same, other than the i7's hyper threading, the performance difference between the 7700 and 7600 is 100mhz and the price difference is around $80.

This is why I think you're a retard. You seem incredibly concerned about the 300mhz difference between the 7700 and the 7700k, yet you apparently cannot fathom why someone would overclock their brand new CPU for a performance increase even greater than that.

>>59362938
480

>>59363163
But aren't 8GB's more future proof?

>>59363223

You're forgetting that the 470 is LESS future proof. It's a wash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMNFoNtKCR8

Reminder: ryzen sucks at gaming.

>>59363237
But from what I've seen, the 470 is really close to the 480 in terms of performance. With a bit of overclocking couldn't the 470 potentially get the same performance as the 480?

>>59363257

Yes.

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>i5-7600
>16GB DDR-2133
>R9 280X 3GB (transferring from old machine)
>mITX so would like to keep CPU TDP at 65W

I do a lot of gaymen but also EDA, Solidworks and photo editing.

7600 ok, or should I get an i7 or R7, or wait for R5 1600X???

>>59363250
I actually can't tell if this is being ironic considering it's on /g/.

>>59363290

How deep are your pockets? Personally I would wait and see how the lower core count ryzen chips play out as they are likely to be fantastic value for money.

Gonna make a new esports machine b/c of the 240hz memes coming out this year.

Anyone wanna help me out with a build that can hit 240fps in league/overwatch? I don't care if I have to lower settings, but the least amount of settings I'd have to lower the better.

Budget- $700 USD
Country- USA

I7 7700k or i7 6700k

>>59363424
if you're buying all new shit, get the 7700k.

its not worth upgrading from 6700k to the 7700k tho

>>59363424

The 7700k is just a more power efficient 6700k. If you can afford the 7700k you might as well go for that

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>>59358549
I recently had to RMA my PSU and mobo. When they came back I was able to boot into >Windows successfully except that 1 of 2 sticks of RAM weren't detected.

The next day the computer won't POST. I tried all different RAM seating possibilities but nothing. Any suggestions?

Build - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CgffGf

>>59363323
Not very. I wanted to spend 300 bong or less on the CPU, so R7 1700 is stretching it. I was originally planning to wait for the R5 1600X and the accompanying mITX board but since it might take a while, I decided to ring up the i5-7600. It looked tempting at 200 bong. That said, the R5 seems like it'll be more suitable for all the odd jobs.

Also, I didn't stay pure for AMD-senpai just to buy Intel in the end (FX-8350 for four years and counting).

>>59363468

Given the relative low cost the remaining ryzen chips are likely to come in at (I would guess the 4c/8t models to be around £150 and the 6 core to be £220ish) it really is worth waiting in my opinion compared to just getting the i5 now.

>>59363465

Clear CMOS.

Is 6700k worth?
Fags say that i5 is enough but now I don't even know.
Wont do much work, mostly gaming.

>>59363411
A full build, from the ground up? Can't do it with 700 desu. Probably looking at a 480 or a 1060, maybe a 1050ti will hit 240fps in league but probably not overwatch.

>>59363593

>64mb is all you ever need

>>59363593

Overclocking will narrow the gap between the 6600k and 6700k. The primary advantage of the i7 is hyperthreading, which games don't really take advantage of. It's definitely not worth the price premium.

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I was in this thread a couple of days ago asking for help with my new pc. Turned out i had no screen because the ram which according to the manual needed slots 2 and4, needed to be in slots 3 and 4 to work. I know. Random as fuck. Anyway thanks for helpimg me out anons, i love you all. Have an Ahri.

>>59363768
ahri is a true patrician's waifu.

>>59362972
>recommending i5
>calling others retards

>>59364278
what's wrong with an i5 faggot

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>>59364468
>he doesn't know

Since PC part picker is shit that doesn't update prices:

ASRock Z270M Pro4 LGA 1151 Intel Z270
+
Phanteks Eclipse P400 Series PH-EC416P_BK

$100 AR
___________________

G4560 $70
____________________

8gb Kingston Technology HyperX FURY 2400MHz

$47
____________________

EVGA 400 N1, 400W

$30
____________________

~$250 for a cheapo shitposting machine, no gaymen

what can be improved?

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>>59364535
>he doesn't know the hidden power of i5 intel inside TM

>>59364765
>4 threads
HAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>59364821
>needing any more for gayman
>"b-but there are people here who aren't interested in gami-"

>>59364821
>he flaunts his fucking 8 threads like it's jack shit
you either go i5 or a xeon, i7 is for those stuck-in-the-middle retards

>>59364848
>gayming with 4 threads
>in 2017
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOHOHO

>>59364867
>xeon

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>>59364872
>>i7babb afraid of xeons because his favorite gaming youtube shill doesn't suggest them
name a single good game that benefits from an i7 better than it would an i5 or xeon

>>59364895
BF1.
Hundreds of games that'll get released in the next 5 years.

>>59364895
>mfw I have a [email protected] in muh gaymen rig and an E5-2696v3 in my "server"

>>59364918
>Hundreds of games that'll get released in the next 5 years.
Yes, hundreds of games in the future will get more and more support for multicore and multithreading action.
The xeon has MOAR CORES and MOAR THREADS compared to the i7, meaning that Xeon > i7

>>59362972
>The 7700k's max turbo speed is 4.5ghz. The 7700's is 4.2ghz.
>300mhz difference between the 7700 and the 7700k
That's not how it works.

I need 16 threads to make reaction image webms to post on /g/.

>webm for bakas loves to crash when multi-threading is enabled

I stand by my conviction.

if i have a dual channel ram mobo and i have 4 ram sticks,

>will the mobo use the first two sticks of ram in the main channels first and if more ram is needed then get some from the other 2?

>or it will use a combination of the 2 sticks i one channel and an other combination in the other channel?

i hope you understand the question

>>59365345

The OS simply sees a single pool of memory and hits it however the fuck it feels like as far as I understand.

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>>59364895
>I sure do love videogames
>I just love watching youtube videos as well
>too bad I'm a fucking retard, and can't do both at the same time or my cpu will shit itself

>>59365185
Source?

>>59365536

I tells ye I sure feel the pain. My PC at work is a goddamn ancient celeron and opening up pdf files with outlook open will bring the machine to its knees for a few moments.

>>59365390
i'll need a more precise answer but thanks anyways

If I'm not going to overclock is the 1080ti reference fine or should i wait for the aftermarket ones anyway?

>>59364540
>Phanteks Eclipse P400 Series PH-EC416P_BK
shit case.

you can find a better one with fan filters for that price.

>what can be improved?
1050 ti video card if u want.

If i bought a supercomputer like a cray shasta or xc would it be good for everyday applications and gaming?

>>59366327

You'd have the best tux racer machine out there.

>>59366359
right because windows cant into hpc?

>>59366375

Basically.

I'm looking for a black mouse.
Only two buttons and a wheel required.
It should be without extra LEDs, the kind of thing you can use in an office. Sober. And durable, I'm going to buy several if I like it, for parts.
Which model am I looking for?

>>59366584
lmao my nigga a, you need a microsoft basic wired mouse

https://www.microsoft.com/accessories/en-us/products/mice/basic-optical-mouse/p58-00061

>>59366608
Are nigs being paid to shitpost advertise on 4 chins or are you an unironic wigger from the 90s with a time machine?

>>59366608
Not original poster. But that Microsoft IntelliMouse 3.0 sounds like a good choice for you. It literally is the best Office mouse ever.

>>59366737
Meant >>59366704

>>59366608
That actually looks decent. Not a bad idea. Thanks.

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>build gaming PC in 2014
>including computer chair, peripherals, thermal paste, shit ton of accessories, whole order comes to $1950

>go to PCpartpicker
>build same computer tower and nothing else
>build is estimated at over $2k

the fuck is this tool jocked so hard by the tech community for if it's full of shit?

>>59366704
you what?

>>59366737
intelli mouse 3 are rare as fuck now days, most are bootlegs (read all)

>>59366925
When did you check pcpartpicker? In 2014 or today?

>>59366925
>build computer in australia
>3 years later the price hasnt even changed a dollar

Anybody has experience with Eizo FlexScan EV2450? Looking for a new 1080p@60 monitor with HDMI and DVI which won't burn my eyes since right now I use old Dell 2000FP.

>>59367091
Today.

>>59362524
My friend has this exact setup and he seems to be happy with 1440p.

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Did I do good ? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nHgYhq

I'm trying to build a budget PC for gaming that I can easily take back and forth from college. Can I play games at least on low settings with good fps with this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cbjcjc

$600 is the absolute maximum I can spend.

>>59367268

How often will you take it to college ? Daily ?

>>59367252

>straight outta logical increments /10

>>59367252
get a 10 dollar cooler.

i think asrock has updated versions of that motherboard? not sure but that price range is fine

get a 525 gb ssd drive for 40 dollars more

get a 2tb drive for 20 dollars more

get a 1080 for 100 dollars more.

get a case with dust filters instead for the same price

>>59359359
u nuw wat u-u knoow
i-i think i donut liek lein anybore!! ;_;
delet dis pls

>>59367279
I live on campus so it would be during breaks and the summer I would take it home. I just didn't want to lug around some giant case.

>>59367306

I see. I like your choice.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XrmPGf

Pretty good? I'm getting parts from a store called MicroCenter so their prices can be more or less than this list says, I've gotten the case, cpu, motherboard and the cooler so far.

just hopping itt to ask; what's a recommended 4k monitor? is freesync worth shit or am i getting memed?

i see i can get some lower end 27"/28" models for around $300 now.

>>59367381

Adaptive sync in general is worth it - especially when pushing resolutions and settings which lend themselves to a fluctuating framerate.

>>59366302

Case comes free with motherboard though..

>>59367288

>get a 10 dollar cooler.

Will a 10 $ cooler actually keep the 17 at a reasonable temperature under load ?

>i think asrock has updated versions of that motherboard? not sure but that price range is fine

Couldn't find one where I live. this one is confirmed to support iommu as well.

>get a 525 gb ssd drive for 40 dollars more

SSDs are expensive as shit where I live. the cheapest 500 Gb is 150$. and I'm fine with 240GB

>get a 2tb drive for 20 dollars more

Makes sense.

>get a 1080 for 100 dollars more.

Can't find a reasonably priced one where I live. They start at ~580$

>get a case with dust filters instead for the same price

I has dust filters though.

>>59367465
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gGqkm8
there u go m8.

10 dollar cooler works just as good, air coolers are all the same, you arent getting sick OC from any of them and they all run fine under load.

use a 240 gb ssd if u want.

order a 1080 online for 500.

this case has built in filters which is what u want.

>>59367527

Thanks, man. That's a pretty good list. Unfortunately I live in Yeuropoo, so the list you made is around 1780 € (around 1900$) while the first one I posted was around 1500€ (1600 $).

e.g. that 1080 costs around 580 € here, which is about 620 $.

Just fucking end me, mate.

>>59367607

I'll switch to the fractal case though, looks liek a really neat case.

>>59367607
can't u buy a 1080 off of ebay?

>>59367607
Amazon Italy is selling an MSI Armour for 525 Euros.

https://www.amazon.it/MSI-GTX-1080-8G-Interfaccia/dp/B01GELBPGG/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1489343090&sr=1-3&keywords=gtx+1080

I live in Australia and picked it up a few days ago. Price converted to $660 AUD which is pretty good for out here.

>>59367643

depends, I've been lurking for a good deal for quite a while, but the mostly all go for 600€+. If I buy from US Dealers taxes will fuck me up the ass to the point where buying here is actually cheaper.

>>59367647

Hmm, I'll look into that.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/TYd6xY

Mainly want to be able to beat the PS4Pro, I didnt expect it would literally double to do so though.

A bit dissapointing because you hear of how the ps4 is overpriced and all, but this really puts in to perspective just how good value it is

>>59367774

Are you literally retarded ?

>>59367774
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/TKqkm8

get some shitty 10 dollar cooler from ebay.

australians are so fucked lmao, you have no options at all.

>>59367791
no? the ps4 pro has 8GB of gddr, so the only gpu that could match it is the 480.

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Can you guys recommend me a decent mechanical keyboard and mouse?

>>59367821

no

>>59367817
but all you did was change the hard drive?

>>59367821

To put it into perspective: A PS4 is equivalent to a PC able to run modern games at Low settings on 30 FPS. Try building that for under 400 and you'll succeed.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PwFfCy
I finally did good /g/

>>59367288
>get a 10 dollar cooler.
Planning on getting a 7700K but I don't plan on OCing and if I do it'd be in like 4-5 years so no urge to get a really cool cooling system...

... still, $10 cooler? Isn't there something pretty decent at $30 or so? What are your source for saying the $10 = $30?

>>59367843
>australians are so fucked lmao, you have no options at all.

>>59367873
>What are your source for saying the $10 = $30?
none, feel free to waste 20 dollars when the load temp will be the exact same and make no difference.

take a thermal engineering class and realize a piece of aluminum with a fan is the same whether it costs 30 dollars or 10 dollars.

>>59367873
Hyper 212 Evo is bredy gud

>>59367854
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DVBPGf
heres a better build.

that case comes with a fan already btw.

>>59367899
But there are proofs out there that >>59367903 is doing much better than a stock Intel cooler... I suppose they're all liars, right?

>>59368016
7700k doesnt come with stock intel cooler.

waste 20 dollars if u want, its literally the same shit.

>>59367852
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GXnnKZ

even cutting the gpu to what i think is unnaceptable and removing peripherals (which is unfair since the ps4 comes with controllers) i cant even reach $559 (the aus ps4 pro price)

>>59367996
edit: add a 1070 with the saved money if u want.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PKcZHN

how to make it better for around same money (not in the US, prices are best I could find)

any advice?

>>59368210

which country ?

>>59368210
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4NxYqk

>>59367996
Thing is i think i will need 3 fans and i kinds want bluetooth. Im willing to get rid of bluetooth but what about

>>59368323
that motherboard has blue tooth.

you dont need 3 fans.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/6KsJGf

What do you think, lads?

Only picked up the GPU ($660), SSD ($197), and PSU (119) so far.

>>59368412
im glad I dont live in australia.

If I buy a 1060 3GB how long till I get fucked over by small VRAM?

>>59368480
Immediately.

>>59368412
>armor

Get the MSI Gaming X

>>59368480
the moment you buy it.

>>59368480
Breddy fast. Give a year or two. But depends on your usage, like if you buy new AAA games or just stick to like CS:GO and shit like that>>59368509
>>59368507
>MSI
Get that gaymen shit out of here. Buy Gigabyte

>>59368480
You'll be fine for 2-3 years at 1080p.

>>59368507
>>59368515
Give examples of games where 3GB isn't enough

>>59368509
I would've but it was around $60 more expensive and I was pushing the budget by getting a 1080 instead of 1070 in the first place.

>>59368522
disneys buzz lightyear of star command (2000)

Is it safe to order my case ahead of time? Or should I just order it at the same time as all the other fragile components (GPU, PSU, mobo, ect...)

>>59368585
all at once. none of that is fragile with the boxes they come in.

>>59368606
>none of that is fragile with the boxes they come in.
Doesn't that mean I should order it separate then?

>>59362903
Do you know how emulators work?

>>59363257
"The same performance" until you overclock the 480
Kinda like what happened with the 1070/1080 sure when OCed the 1070 matches a stock 1080 but who the fuck buys a stock 1080?

>>59364848
Some people are interested in streaming gaymen
You can't be pcmr from your GPU-less laptop without having an i7 at home

>>59364895
Battlefield and Forza get a huge bonus, basically every single puzzley game, Civ6
There's several games that use the extra threads already and more are coming out (slowly and sporadically, but it's happening)
Plus you get the multitasking bonus in case you want to stream
I would've absolutely gotten a 6700k over a 6600k if I were to do it again
That being said, yes it does play all my games, it just can't do any more than that

>>59366279
If you're not going to claim your free overclock performance then a RX470 is fine for you

>>59367821
Yeah you're literally retarded
PCs have two RAMs
Thus beating anything you have

>>59368043
1050ti beats the RX460
You're in Australia, desu senpai you're not in a position to say what's a better value than what, everything over there gets a price hike depending on which company it is
Like that PSU could be half the price and that ram could be half the price (that's just the market though, lately ram prices have skyrocketed)
Trust me, 900p and 30fps? That's nothing for the build you put together
The 60fps is usually the biggest selling point between PC and consoles and it adds a lot of power needed. 30fps is not difficult to achieve at all, that's why consoles are not 60fps 1080p computers capable of matching $500-600 builds
You don't go PC to match consoles for cheaper, you go to PC to beat consoles for the same price

>>59359265
>thinking that there are any worthy differences between 6700k and 7700k

>>59369542
That was 1 day ago, and I was misinformed

I want to buy a 1080 to hold my rig down for the next 3-5 years, what are the best variants? Ones that do well with cooling are preferred.

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>not building a GPU-less computer
>not waiting for gtx 9999 12GB

>>59358549
Have been using a fucking Atom for the last few years, so kind of out of the loop and very dumb. I would prefer a Skylake CPU (since I want to dualboot into Linux without effort and also need a 7 install for reasons), should I get a a 6600-6900k i5 or a similar i7? Do the Skylake i7s offer anything substantially over the i7s now and in the foreseeable future? I will be eventually overclocking as well for games and emulation. Please advise.

>>59370341
new quad core atoms are alright?

>>59369257
hella epic

>>59359359
That doesn't make her a mac user anon... Can't you distinguish real life from anime anymore?

What could I do with an HP 8100 desktop that my school is selling for $40? Doesn't come with a harddrive but could easily get one for it.

>>59370831
>First gen intel cores

I guess anything you could do on a normal computer except slower

>>59365536
That's some hyperbole right there.

I have a 3770k @ 4.5ghz.
I'm getting a 1070.
I'm also considering building a new computer.
Would it be worth upgrading to Kaby Lake/Ryzen, or will my 3770k be able to pull it's weight for a while still?

1060, z170 and a 7600 would be perfect for a 700€ build, right?

I already own the case and the psu, so it'd just be ssd, gpu, cpu, mobo and ram I'd need to buy.

>>59370595
Probably, but I've been using a 8+ year old one.

My friends want to start a gaming channel so I was wondering if you guys could help me make a computer that can run AAA title games really good, and other generic normie shit like league, overwatch and minecraft. Would be nice if I could make a minecraft server too for my friends with [amplified] biome option.

budget is $1,200-$1,500. I can go as high as $1,600 if neccessary but then i will be in debt

So why an rx 480 over 1060? im not baiting ,im genuinely curious

>>59371379
You need a "letter2numbernumber" board to support the 7600.

So B250 or Z270.
Since it's non-K B250 is enough.

>>59370912
I just went from a 3570k z77 670 build to a 7600k z270 1070 build, and almost all of the gains came from the video card. If you don't need m.2 slots (and nobody does) stay with your old board and cpu.

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>>59367527
>air coolers are all the same

>>59371694
This build is going to be for a friend that has always owned outdated consoles so it's going to be a super big ass jump for him.

I really want him to be able to play everything @ 1080p at max, obviously with some more demanding stuff like hairworks disabled. I'll be giving him my old psu and case. I was thinking about throwing only 8GB ddr4 in, but with a 1060 and 7600 it feels a bit too little, doesn't it? I would also like to only buy an ssd for now, 250gb one should do fine since he already owns an external 1tb hdd 3.0

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>>59359260
Zana's at it again!

>>59371772
No to be rude and just so things are clear but that doesn't invalidate the fact that 7600 is Kaby Lake so you need a B250, H250(? forgot exact number, doesn't matter since H boards are useless) or Z270.

But anyway it looks like you were just adding to your previous comment; I believe that's a pretty good build for the price. With that said no matter what we say here you need to go ahead and check benchmarks and CPU comparisons out there to form your own opinion so you don't end up regretting it.

>>59371768
>he pays 20 dollars to cool his max load cpu to 75C instead of 80C
good goy

>>59371855
That fucking damage control, earlier you went on saying how all coolers were THE SAME and now you're starting to admit there's a difference.

>>59363465 here, >>59363583 I tried that and nothing happened. The MemOK! button didn't help either.

>>59371877
if you had read the thread, you would realize that my argument is that it makes VERY LITTLE difference.

go be a nigger somewhere else faggot.

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>>59371855
You can't conceal your embarrassment. Stop trying to save the face you don't have.

>>59371841
Oh yeah, I didn't make myself clear. Yes indeed you were right when you said I need a x2xx board for the 7600. It is indeed true that I will have ot look at benchmarks.

I am also contemplating the possibility of picking up used pieces because that'd save up a lot of money and give more room for components.

>>59371899
=> >>59367899
>none, feel free to waste 20 dollars when the load temp will be the exact same and make no difference.
HAHAHAHAHA.

As of now, how long would an i7-4790K last? Implying it's a new one I get for free.

5 years? 10 years?

So I'm going for a GTX 1070, but what brand should I get it from? MSI or EVGA?

>>59372343
asus strix

>>59372343
Gigabyte Windforce OC

>>59372439
>>59372525
Huh. It might be because I'm tired, but they both look almost identical.

The only difference I can find between the two is the clocks. What's the benefit for each one?

God, I need to sleep.

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What do you think?

If im running a 6700K with a 1060 6GB Gigabyte Windforce OC in the Fractal Design Define S case, will i need more fans?

I was thinking about this for a while: what we could achieve by compressing air into water cooler blocks? Could we make a waterless water cooler?

In the process of doing cheap upgrades to my old gaming laptop.

MSI GT70 0ND
I7 3610QM
880M

I just got 2 Seagate 500GB Firecuda's for a RAID. Seagate was adamant about them not being good for a raid because it wasn't enterprise version. Is that really something I should care about or no?

Second question is about RAM, I've tried to understand it but I'm not too knowledgeable about that shit. I got x4 sticks for dual channel currently.

4gb 800mhz DDR3-1600 / PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM SO-DIMM

Is that good or should I upgrade to something with higher clock speed? Reason I'm doing these upgrades is because GTAV has random dips despite the cpu and gpu not being maxed out and I feel it was the HDDs/RAM bottlenecking. Fallout4 is another thats entirely unplayable and I know its a ram based game. What would be recommended?

>>59373449
No way to get 2400mhz RAM? They are usually not much more expensive.
Also, are you getting 8GB because the mobo only has 2 slots? If mobo has 4 go 2x 4GB in my opinion.

Toshiba is good, but 2TB are cheaper per TB.

I don't know shit about screens or the 1050.

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http://www.outletpc.com/comb76.html

What >$180 GPU should I pair this with if I wanna meme in overwatch and do low poly 3D modeling for /agdg/?

<3

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>>59374201
I mean less than. Less than $180

Whats the better AM4 Motherboard?

ASRock X370 Fatal1ty K4 or the Asus X370 Prime Pro?

Looking at buying one and there's only about $8 difference between the two. Which one should I get?

>>59358549
I'm Canadian, need a pc that's 1500 or lower, and will game and possibly video edit (1080p video, would like 1440p or 1080p at 60fps). I live in Toronto (with fucking 13% tax) so I added all taxes for these builds (13% on each website is the Harmonized Sales Tax)

I have an AMD build and a Intel build.
Intel - https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/zHmqQV
AMD - https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y8gwKZ

pls help thx

>>59374428
>live in toronto
>surrounded by niggers and pajeets

>>59374454
yep that's my life

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jq3cFd

how's this for 1080p 144hz gaming

BF1, Doom, Overwatch

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>>59373650
Still looking for help with the ram.

I'm not understanding these numbers at all. "max supported memory clock" does this mean if I get 4 sticks of 1600mhz each only 1300mhz will be used essentially 1 stick?

>>59374201
That processor is still 180 bucks?

Why are you picking this?

>>59374593
That processor is bundled with a motherboard

>>59374622
What's your overall budget?

>>59374640
Not set but hopefully through the power of memes and jesus christ around $450

>>59374677
I have a monitor, peripherals and an HDD.

>>59374677
>through the power of memes and jesus christ around $450
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

here you go.

t. jesus christ.

>>59374717
I mentioned memery. Part of my "budget" is a giftcard to best buy. $150

>>59374677
>>59374689
I'm no pro or anything but I just find the FX and that mobo just too limiting, like, you're gonna buy this with possibility of upgrade in the future and it won't even last you long.

If I were you I'd go with something like a B250 as a mobo which can be dirt cheap and with a Pentium G4560 which is also dirt cheap (check the other Pentium G too, but I think that one hold the most value out of them all). Then later on you can upgrade to an i5 or even an i7 7700 if you want on that mobo.

Just my opinion from a fellow /agdg/ faggot.

>>59374717 got the idea.

>with possibility of upgrade
with no* I mean.

Look :
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4560-vs-AMD-FX-6300/3892vs1555

And inform yourself on 7th generation Pentium. They are beast, 2 cores hyperthrending (4 threads, virtually 4 cores).

>>59374741
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VwxGNN
heres an actual good build for under 400.

you can play ALL games at 1080p 30fps.

>>59374783
>H110M mobo.
NO. Even pcpartpicker tells you no.

Go B250.

>>59374799
pcpartpicker tells me its good.

feel free to explain why its bad though.

>>59374809
Because H110 would need a BIOS update, they don't handle 7th generation processor aka Kaby Lake unless you update them. Anon doesn't have a Skylake at hand if he's looking to buy a budget build, so he won't be able to update.

Also you fucking put a cooler in his build although the G4560 already comes out with a cooler which is plenty enough. Way to waste 20 bucks for no reason.

>>59374809
>Compatibility Check: See notes below.

>Some Intel H110 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Kaby Lake-S CPUs.
>The Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case supports video cards up to 350mm long, but video cards over 170mm may block drive bays. Since the MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card is 215mm long, some drive bays may not be usable.

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>have haf x case (5 fans)
>z270 carbon (ports for 4 fans+cpu fan +"pump" fan)

Is there some kind of splitter I can use to hook up two fans to one port, or will I need to connect one to the pump fan port?

Also using a phanteks heatsink. Opinions on mounting it so it's blowing heat from the top instead of the back?

>>59374777
I wasn't really thinking about upgrading in the future. I just knew I wanted a quad core and a computer that could possibly run UE4 for lowpoly memery

An i3 is more my budget but the dual core is worse than the i5 in my laptop

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gwRJGf
rate my build.

super poorfag btw.

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h-how is my build guys? adding 2tb drive tomorrow.

>>59374879
>Is there some kind of splitter I can use to hook up two fans to one port, or will I need to connect one to the pump fan port?

ya theres a cable for it cost me 2 bucks, or just connect it to pump. connect the back fan to pump bc it might be stronger volt

>Also using a phanteks heatsink. Opinions on mounting it so it's blowing heat from the top instead of the back?

doesnt matter

>>59368522
Most AAA games released in the past 2 years have a minimum VRAM requirement of 2GB. To meet recommended requirements, most of these games require 4-6GB of RAM.

Just a couple years ago, 4GB sounded like an absurd amount of VRAM, but here we are. Games, especially theatrical AAA titles, utilize a lot of humongous textures, and console-to-PC ports are not very well optimized often times, so games like Batman: Arkham Knight actually need about 4GB to not run like ass. This is because the PS4 and XBone don't have dedicated VRAM, but instead use the 8GB system RAM. Bandwidth speed is slower than on PC, but overall consoles have between 6GB to somewhere less than 8GB of RAM to utilize. Therefore when the games are ported, often times you see huge VRAM usage spikes.

The 6GB 1060 is worth it over the 3GB 1060. 2GB cards are already becoming obsolete, so it wouldn't surprise me if in a couple of years 3GB will be obsolete, especially with 3GB being a non-standard amount of VRAM. For the current generation of consoles, 6GB-8GB of VRAM is ideal.

>>59374840
>>59374860
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d4HhZ8

fixed.

u can just flash drive bios update dont be a pussy.

>>59374889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At3Xo3viF2o
This is how the G4560 runs Overwatch all by itself (CPU+iGPU), no graphic card.

>>59374917
Thanks anon.

Of all the things to freak out about with this being my first build, it was all the wires spilling out of my case that had me the most intimidated

>>59374933
Why are you insisting on a H board? There's literally no reason to pick it over a B250 which can be used for future upgrade. Price is roughly the same too. BAKA.

>>59374939
>>59374939
Interesting. I'll look into pairing this with whatever graphics card I can get from best buy for $180

thanks

>>59374981
>Price is roughly the same too. BAKA
>roughly the same
nice try shekelstein

also you would have to be a retarded jew to get to believe a 400 dollar rig should be future proof.

>>59374915
Seems very similar to my old build, which had a FX-8300 and a r7 360. It handled games alright on medium settings, but the processor was a severe bottleneck in many games. In Overwatch, I would get about 70 fps at 900p on medium to high settings, but during intense team fights, frames would dip down to 30 fps because of the CPU bottleneck.

About one year later, I upgraded to a 6600k and a RX 480 8GB. I slightly regret that build because at the time, about $200 more could have gotten me a lot more.

>>59372201
How long is a piece of rope? 5 feet? 10 feet?

>>59374992
Well other than the mobo I think anon's build here is a good start >>59374933.

>>59375007
>ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $44.99
>Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H $69.89
It's fine, he said under 450.

H boards are the worst meme ever.

>>59375055
>It's fine, he said under 450.
>yessss goy, spend more money!
fuck off kike

Rate my shitty pc building noob set
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VdKBWX
Three points I'd like to make
>Chose i3 over pentium because a friend of mine bought one, then upgraded it to an i5 and sold it to me new in box for around $20 more than the G4560
>Decided to buy an ROG STRIX RX-470 by abusing a jet promotion for a wrench holder (which was mistaken for an RX 470 4GB OC, don't ask how) and totalled to $95+tax
>I was afraid after learning that kaby lake wasn't supported out of the box on that shitty mobo, but the one that was shipped to me had the new BIOS flashed to it so no problems there

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>>59375074
Better than a black screen at least.

>>59375020
i haven't had any issues with fps. i can play OW at 1080 without any frame drops. I keep them capped at 70 with my monitor. Al-tho i know that their is a slight bottle neck, i have yet to really experience it.

I'm pretty surprised with the rx460 because i can play most new games at 1080 on high with a solid 60 frames with some tweaking.

>>59375079
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3ZsZvV

fixed.

Should I buy a Gigabyte 1070 for 360-380, or the STRIX for 405?

>>59375169
if they're both 1070s then get the gigabyte.

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>>59374933
What quadcore or better can I slap into this without having to sell a kidney?

Here, a completed build for under $350
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sTsZvV

It would probably be moderately serviceable.

>>59375205
g4560 is the best in the business for poorfags.

no other option, you would be downgrading if you tried to buy a more expensive processor up until the 200 dollar range.

>>59375196
I was curuous, since clock speed doesn't really matter for me, as 1070 will be overkill until I pickup a 1080p 144hz monitor. The Windforce is pretty cheap compared to the Gaming G1, any difference other than the fans and lack of backplate on the Windforce?

>>59363290
sleep tight fluffy

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>>59375238
>curuous

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RDBbxY
Please r8/h8 friends :^)

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>>59375383
Sorry man I didn't get much sleep last night

Just tell me if I should get the windforce or the G1

>>59375517
cheaper one.

if not then post the links because i still have no idea what cards you're talking about.

>>59375499
not bad, but why not consider a 6600k or 7600k with a z170 or z270 mobo for overclocking? You would also need a CPU cooler, which I would recommend the CM 212 or the Cryorig H7

I have the n200 case and imo it's about perfect for a basic mini mATX tower case. It's small enough to be tucked under the corner of my desk neatly, but large enough to not feel cramped when I'm working in it. It gave me more than enough room for a good CPU cooler as well.

>>59375536
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/YpH48d/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-g1-gaming-video-card-gv-n1070g1-gaming-8gd

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/4XyxFT/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-windforce-oc-video-card-gv-n1070wf2oc-8gd

Windforce is about $10-15 less, and the only other differences that are apparent are the fan sizes, length, and the windforce has about 0.15 less on boost clock.

>>59375557
>but why not consider a 6600k or 7600k with a z170 or z270 mobo for overclocking?

Not him, but between the CPU, the mobo and the cooler there is a significant price gap between an overclocking and non-overclocking system.

>>59375557
I appreciate your feedback, especially for validating my case choice.
However, I didn't want to spend the k premium and I probably wouldn't overclock anyways. I basically want comfortable 1080p gaming for a few years and to not spend a mass of money.

Is the 7600k worth it as an upgrade from very old hardware? Using an FX6300 right now and I really don't want to wait for ryzen5 desu. I can grab a sweet deal on a ddr4 setup too.

>>59375584
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/YpH48d/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-g1-gaming-video-card-gv-n1070g1-gaming-8gd

this one because triple fan.

>>59375613
Figured. Off to catch up on sleep.

>>59375611

It will be a night and day difference.

What do you think about this build?

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z270-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5"
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB NITRO+ 4G Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (White) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter

>>59375689
trash.

put in pc part picker.

>>59375689
Is this for gaming?

>>59375689
>Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory

Gonna want 2x4GB at least to run it in dual channel.

>Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5"

Very small SSD.

>Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

I've heard bad things about the NEX line but I've never used one or had problems with it, so while I can't recommend you avoid them I do recommend you look into them.

>>59375714
yes specifically for CS:GO thats why I went for the strong CPU

>>59375689
>EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W
Spend the extra $20 and get a EVGA G3 series.

>>59375689
>EVGA SuperNOVA NEX
>NEX
into the trash it goes.

>>59375736
Well I guess that would sort of make sense. However I was going to say that you spent too much on CPU and not enough on GPU

Build:
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($316.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.30 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($119.50 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card ($585.22 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H230 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.29 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($116.71 @ Jet)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter

Do I really need something like zipties for cable management? I've had all my parts for a week but been proloning because of zipties or similar items.

>>59374933
I like this build and am considering copying it, but I wouldn't need an HDD. What should I upgrade in its place?

>>59375789
super trash.

why is this not on pc part picker?

>>59375736

With a 6600k overclocked to 4.6ghz and an R9 280X I get framerates ranging from 190 to 300 with every setting maxed out at 1080p.

How much more power do you need?

>>59375812
gtx 1060 6GB or more ram for the cpu.

>>59375820
I made it on pc part picker

>>59375862
so where is the link?

>>59375602
>>59375592
I got my 6600k for $179 and my z170 mobo for $95

It really isn't that large of a price premium, but it's worth it.

Is it time for a new thread?

I can't get myself to buy my computer.

I pretty much know what I want but I'm not doing it. Instead I'm just wasting days looking at benchmarks and comparisons to be sure I'm not gonna regret it.

>>59376071
>>59376071
>>59376071

>>59375675
Going for it. Ty anon

>>59375789
Go ahead and install your PSU in to the case to get started and you'll immediately see the need for ties

>>59374428
You should be able to find some decent kijiji deals all over the GTA, especially downtown. Probably a lot of people ditching their 1070s and 1080s for the Ti

So I'm gonna buy a 1070 and a new monitor, what kind of monitor should I get for that GPU?

>>59359265
why give a shit about what speed your ram goes at?

does it give you more fps?