/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>>59332561
Thinkpad 13, 39C/68C here

>>59332374
How much is a used X201 in ameriland?

Anyone have any success on water-cooling a W-series computer? I'm thinking on getting some custom shit with flexible liquid cooler tubes and a water block mounted to the screen

X1 CARBON GEN 5 IS COMING TODAY

OUT FOR DELIVERY MOTHERFUCKERS

>>59332374
Today when I turned on my thinkpad it showed rainbow colors and after that it showed only black screen.

I turned off thinkpad and try it to turn on it is normal again.

I have IPS x220 do somebody know what is it?

I fear that my thinkpad is going to die or my screen.

>>59333053
try with an external monitor and you'll see if it's the srceen or the thinkpad

>>59333098
It is normal now and I worry that it will something to happen in the future.

It happened yestreday.

do official older thinkpad keyboards flex a lot?

let's say that I got my thinkpad with one that flexes enough to be bothersome. I'd honestly rather have a slightly heavier laptop if the thing didn't flex at all.

>>59332999

make the first youtube review on it when you get it plz

>>59333195
I think I actually will

been looking for a good use for my Pixel with filmic pro

>>59333184
Yes. They also fall the fuck apart and slowly gloss over from any skin oil whatsoever.

>>59333184
>>59333362
T/X *10/20/30 flexes

the *40, for all their flaws, mounted the keyboard on the frame again so no flex from 2014 onwards

Is Coreboot compatible with the latest Thinkpad models (like the T420)?

>>59333184
only the keys near the wasd on my w520 flexes. the depression is about 1mm at most, maybe 2mm if you really tried to depress it. with normal usage it doesn't flex at all.

>>59333496
No

here are your /g/ approved thinkpad options

>Freedom edition
X200 with Coreboot and AFFS panel. Reapplied thermal paste on CPU and new 9 Cell battery (anker replacement acceptable) running your preferred GNU + Linux OS on an SSD

>I have a decent amount of money to spend but I want my laptop to not be a piece of shit while still being classic edition
T430 with *20 series keyboard mod and X1 Carbon 1st gen screen drop in replacement. SSD and new 9 cell battery as well

>same as above but muh size
X230 with *20 keyboard mod and IPS display. New 9 Cell and SSD.

>hipster edition
X301 with secondary battery in optical drive

>I have a lot of money to spend and I don't care about /g/ memes
X1 Carbon 2017 or P50

>I have a lot of money and am both stupid and patient
x62

>I want a thinkpad as a collectors item not to actually use
T61p, the one used on the International Space Station

you're welcome /g/

>>59333598
>T430 with *20 series keyboard mod and X1 Carbon 1st gen screen drop in replacement.

enjoy paying $400

>>59333620
exactly, read my description

also, if $400 is too much to spend on a laptop for you then you probably shouldn't be buying a computer anyway

>>59333631
carbon screen is a piece of shit

>>59333656
it's leaps and bounds better than the t430 screen though
T430
>black level value of 1.47 cd/m2 and that is the reason for a slightly improved contrast ratio of 178:1

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-Notebook.81802.0.html

X1 Gen 1
>Contrast: 681:1 (Black: 0.43 cd/m2)
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Ultrabook.80288.0.html


makes it actually usable

why is the thinkpad keyboard so god tier, it's far more comfy to type on than any other I've tried in the past

Why don't more models have the objectively superior yellow thinklight? Fuck this harsh white bastard

>>59333951
the thinklight is built into the camera module iic. camera modules can be bought for $5 on ebay so you can experiment replacing the led and fuck up as many times as you want.

i personally want a red thinklight because the human eye doesn't need to transition from red light

>>59334021
Only for low lux and only specific wavelengths of red like 660nm or less.

If it's too bright your eyes start bleaching anyway

>>59334021
Sunset orange is goat desu familia

>>59334021
>red thinklight
half chubbing rn desu

The 9 cell battery in my t420 doesn't last more than 2-3 hours off the charger at about level 6 brightness browsing the internet, watching YouTube, nothing intensive.

Is this normal? Seems like kinda shitty battery life and I don't want to spend $70+ for stock battery when I paid 200 for the laptop over a year ago. Any alternatives to shelling out manufacturer price or risking getting a less than advertised capacity battery off eBay?

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New Telegram Thinkpad Group
Join for discussion/advice
Active & no nazimods

http://t.me/thinkpadgeneral

>>59334599
change the cells out to better ones yourself, it's not that hard if you know how to solder.

should be better than new if you use proper cells.

What is Lenovo Enhanced Experience 2.0? it sounds like bloat.

>>59334665
what the shit

not only does he probably not have a spot welder or whatever you call the battery tab solderer, you have to charge the new batterypack to the exact voltage of the one you're replacing, wire it in parallel with the other pack to the board, and only then can you cut the old one out.

Think I'm gonna go over to the darkside of dell latitudes. I love the thinkpads but seems like they are starting to get a little overpriced for used ones.

>>59334812
precision > latitude
always

>>59334812
What's wrong with the Latitude series?

Can someone tell me what the Thinkvantage button on my X230 is good for?

>>59334861
I dont know. Nothing wrong with them to me. I was just saying it because its not a thinkpad. They look pretty nice to me.

I bought a used x230 few weeks ago with an ips, 8 gigs and ssd for 200€ and I'm loving it. battery lasts for about 3 hours or so on arch linux. How much would I get with a new battery? also thinking about replacing the cold thinklight with a warm colour.

>>59334853
this
latitudes are a poor mans precision which is already a poor mans thinkpad

Why does the windows app "Lenovo settings" (basically power manager for w10) keep resetting removing my ICC profile?

>>59335145
>>>reddit

>>59335145
how 2 do?

>>59334878
You can bind it to whatever you want if you're running Linux. On Windows it's pretty much useless.

>>59334853
>>59334972
Precision is just Dell's name for their workstation models. Like W series Thinkpads or -w Elitebook models. Latitudes are the equivalents to X and T series.

>>59335175
wrong

>>59335160
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/5xgo02/tfw_you_use_a_thinkpad_manual_included/

>>59334947
Depends on battery size. A 9 cell would last you up to 9 hours on Windows but with Linux it won't be more than 7, unless you fiddle around with TLP

Ayy. I want to get a dock for my X220t. Is a used Ultrabase 3 with OEM 90W charger for $40 a good deal or should I keep looking?

>>59335220
this should be a bannable offence

>>59335160
http://giocc.com/custom-bios-splash-screen-for-new-thinkpad-series.html

>>59335162
So it never even had a use on a new Thinkpad with Windows pre-installed?

>>59335246
It had. I don't know what Anon has been smoking lately but originally it was there to enter the BIOS on startup and to bring up IBM or Lenovo support in Windows.

>>59332374
X220 with modified 1.43 BIOS
What ac wifi card would you recommend? That's if any can work. Thanks in advance anonymous.

>>59335551
>>59335246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJOG1WNPjjA

They even did an ad for the blue button

>>59335576
>tfw my thinkpad function buttons are black instead of blue

Is it because I'm not an ameriburger?

>>59335649
No. They changed everything to black with the new keyboard. ThinkPads up to Lenovo 20 series had blue function keys and Enter buttons. ThinkPads Lenovo 30 series onwars have black function keys and Enter buttons.

>>59334861

many of them look like toys e.g. 6320 and have mushy keyboards.

shit screen in general

shit support and shit community, when shit literally hits the fan enjoy making/reading a thread on their forum and seeing kumar pajeet patel whose only reply is"sir please I request you clean your computer pls reinstall windows".

can't control the fan

1/2 the serviceability of a thinkpad, you can't find spare parts everywhere.

too tired to list the rest

>>59335694
>>59335649
Or maybe your ThinkPad is from the 90s. I think they introduced the blue color accents around 2000.

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anyone bought recently an alienware panel for t430(s) ? All I find are the "compatible" matte versions.

Can someone explain to me why is the t420 the one recommended instead of the t520?


T520 is superior in every way

>>59335719

a what?

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>>59335938
alienware M14X panel, supposedly plug'n'play if you already have hd+ display, otherwise you need to change the cable too

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Just hackintosh'd my X220. Sierra is comfy

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>>59336128
>1366x768

>>59335927
why would you use t520 when w520 exists?

>>59336152
It's a good resolution for the size. Upscaling sucks major balls. At least it does on Windows and Loonix. That's a bugfest. I guess with Mac OS higher resolutions could work better on a screen that size.

>>59336163
T520 can use the same high gamut screen as the W520. It's only inferior that it doesn't have a quadro and 4 ram slots. The parts are also interchangeable between the two. Really the only difference is the motherboard.

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come on come on come on come on come on come on come on come on come on come on...etc

what's the first porn I should watch on my new T420? to break it in like

>>59333518
Yep. Mine flex further on the X220, same area. Specially the Ctrl/Fn keys. More than an issue with them "sinking" I have an issue with the noise. It sounds really hollow.

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>>59336128
is the clitpoint usable ? i ran hackintosh on my t410, but the trackpoint was barely usable, nor couldn't install the right patches from rehabman. Now with my t430s i begin to slightly hate windows again, and hope hackintosh would be better than on the t410.

>>59336406
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=lenovo

>>59336128
Did you manage to get the sdcard reader to work?

>>59336436
I was considering hackintoshing my X220 but now I'm not sure. The Trackpoint is the only pointing device I have used in the last 4 years and losing it would be devastating. I won't use an OS that doesn't fully support it.

>>59336537
yupe that was the breaking point for me. but since it was my 1st time @ hackintoshing, maybe it's easy to do it, maybe i've done it the wrong way.

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>>59334775
You guessed it!

>>59335702
>shit screen in general
<i never had a e7470

>shit support and shit community
<not getting prosupport/prosupport plus

>you can't find spare parts everywhere.
granted.

>>59336436
>>59336537
Not >>59336128, but let me tell you that following the guide specific for the x220 (the mcdonelltech one) isn't the -only- thing you need to do in order for that to work quite right.

Let me explain:

Once you install them kexts on the pack provided in that website, you'll get 3 behaviors:

1. With touchpad enabled, double clicks.
2. With touchpad disabled through the prtsc key, your keys won't register well as long as you have enough of your palm touching the touchpad at times.
3. With touchpad disabled through hardware, the trackpoint will skip real bad and the middle trackpoint button won't work for scrolling.

So what do you do if you don't want the stupid touchpad which works like ass anyways, but want the trackpoint to be functional and no weird clicking?

You have to open the VoodooPS2Controller.kext on that pack, then find inside the VoodooPS2Trackpad.kext (inside /contents/plugins) and open it up as well.

Find the info.plist, open it up with a text editor or and look for FingerZ entries. Ramp those up to a really high value (over 600 for instance). You'll see some Lenovo entries there, but since I'm a retard I went and changed all FingerZ entries for good measure.

Patch that shit again, you can use the same tool included in that pack, restart and use prtsc, and that shit doesn't ever miss a click, doesn't double click, doesn't skip and doesn't lack middle button scrolling. It werks.

>>59336646
>kext
kek

>>59336709
yep

>>59336709
KERNELEXTENSIBLES

Will setting the ram speed to 1600 overclock my ram or it leave me unable to post?

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>>59336128
>hackintosh
when will this meme end?

>>59336935
When they release a version that has more issues than "whoops I gotta replace this piece of hardware and it costs 5 dollars to do so"

>>59336934
if your cpu is capable of that then it should work fine

if cpu is not capable of that then it will just downclock to the fastest speed it can do

but it should POST unless for some reason it is really shitty ram

>>59336935
the only people who hackintosh are the people who will talk about it non stop so you can be sure there's really only like 10 of them

Just got my first T420. Should I configure something in the BIOS?

How can I make my middle touchpad button just act like a middle mouse button?

you are an exillent carp fisherman my friend

>>59337066
Yeah, nuke Computrace. Select "permanently disabled" to avoid turning it on.

>>59337111
what OS are you using? at least on windows you can do it in the lenovo app thingy

>>59336436
Why do you hate Windows?

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is it possible to disable intel ME on an x220 completely?

Can a T420 run UE4 Editor?

>>59337260
I'm sure you could cripple it with some SPI flasher or some shit like that. I read that somewhere.

Truly a shame the custom bios shows an option to enable and disable it but disabling it does dick.

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Lads...

>>59337212
Question:

Let's say that I don't have computrace enabled. In the future I would probably (not too sure, but you never know, I'm really poor and all) sell this shit. Should I still set it to permanently disabled?

Also another question:

Let's say that I wanted to be able to turn on the computer -only- with the fingerprint reader regardless of OS installed. Is that even possible?

I know fingerprint ain't exactly secure, but I'm still curious.

>>59337453
How is it?

>>59337453
Congrats. How is the battery life?

>>59337453
I did a dumdum and bought a thinkpad 13 instead, it was a lot cheaper and I don't really need the extra power, but now I want it :C

>>59337552
Still setting up, is very nice
>>59337560
Charging it. Will let people know soon.
>>59337584
Yeah the difference between quality in a cheap Thinkpad vs a nice one is light-years. I made a comparison video real quickly but it's going to take eons to upload on my garbage Internet

>>59337584
that said, should I spend even more moneys to buy the x1 carbon and try to sell this 13 to someone?

>>59337673
I really want to do it, what are the upsides compared to my i5, 16gb, 512gb ssd (oc+ dockable) 13?

>>59337668
What's build quality like? Early T-Series or cheap chink laptop? Is there give when you press on stuff?
>inb4 "it's a cheap chink laptop anyways"

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>>59332374
So, I've got an x220 tablet that's getting a little too dated and worn for my liking (fairly slow in things like photoshop and things alike), a 1366x768 display is abysmal to use as a drawing tablet, and I'm wanting to replace it with something newer, but still want the pen enabled display, as I love drawing and doing GD on it.
Now, being a college student, I don't have a ton of money, but I can pull a bit over $400 for a device.

>How does /tpg/ feel about the Thinkpad Yoga S1?
On ebay, one with a i5 4300u and 8gb of ram goes for just over $400 and it looks decent for the price, is there anything to look out for?
Known issues, or just bad things about it?
On some review sites, they're really knocking hard for the lack of ports and bad speakers, but if those are the 2 real issues, I don't feel that's enough to warrant a 3.5-5 star device in some reviews.

I remember asking a while ago, and people would only recommend the thinkpad yoga 14 with dedicated graphics and no pen-enabled display for, like, $200 more than what my budget would allow. Dedicated graphics would be nice, but HD 4400 graphics are enough for what I need, and the pen-enabled display is more than worth it for what I'm doing.

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Anyone have the big guy w700?

>>59336646
this does work wrt fixing clicks, but jacking up all four FingerZ entries in my info.plist seems to disable the touchpad entirely, prtsc or not. not exactly mourning this loss, but might there be one of the FingerZ entries that could be kept low so the touchpad fill continue to work when enabled?

>>59337994
Indeed. It's not ideal, but to be honest it looks much easier to fix the trackpoint than it is to make the touchpad bearable. This is a specific solution in case you never ever use the touchpad.

I'm going to be honest, I wish the touchpad worked nicely. I don't mind using the trackpoint but I have a magic trackpad and if I could just shrink that shit and fit it inside the X220 I would.

What Thinkpad has the maximum number of lights on it? I enjoy lights, it makes me feel like I'm piloting a tiny spaceship.

>>59338035
Fuck I love lights too. I use the thinklight a bit too much.

>>59336935
when lunix becomes usable

I have an x200 and t61p. Hard to really compare it to those two in terms of overall quality because this is so thin it doesn't """""feel"""" as strong as the other two but the palm rest and hinges are noticabley stronger. Slight flex on the screen though which is disappointing

>>59336042
this is news to me, im nuder impression that any sort of ips panel available for the t430/t420 requires some form of modification to fit

>>59338075
meant for >>59337753

>>59338052

Sometimes I leave capslock on just to have another light

>>59337453
why are print screen and page up/down in such retarded positions?

>>59337723
do it, get the i7 model with 16gb ram and a 512gb nvme ssd, you can even use the same oc+ dock

what's the beefiest thinkpad these days?

The one with better specs you can get?

Is there any reason T430 models are cheaper than similarly-specced T420s in my local auction sites? Lower demand? Shittier build quality?

>>59338371
because the "chiclet is shit" meme

>>59338297
Probably some sort of W series + aftermarket XM processor

>>59338297
>>59338605
Why not P series? If you want everything stock this is probably the go to series.

>>59338408
I'm still impressed by how nice the chiclet keyboard is on my x260. A coworker with an x220 was impressed as well. It may not be as the older keyboard but it's still really good.

>>59338746
>how nice the chiclet keyboard is on my x260
Then the x230's one is even better.

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>>59338746
>It may not be as the older keyboard but it's still really good
What did he mean by this?

>>59338954
>What did he mean by this?
The chiclet keyboard is incredible compared to other laptops I've used. I wish it had 7 rows instead of 6 but it's manageable.
Previous laptops I've owned and used have awful flexible keyboards that you can't type on for more than a few minutes without getting irritated with.

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>>59339070
read that sentence again friend

>>59337453
>>59337552
>>59337560
>>59337584
>>59337668
>>59337753
world exclusive Thinkpad X1 Carbon 2017 youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYghTefdvDE

do your worst

>>59339121
It may not be as good as the older keyboard.

Took three more times to figure out what you meant

Man for the first laptop ever bought for myself (I fixed a few laptops, but always bought desktops) the X220 is doing way more than I expected from it.

Like I wanted to put 2 virtual machines on it and I thought it would crap itself. Nevermind that it's dealing with them just fine and the processor it has doesn't have any fancy virtualization features (2450M).

>>59339189

Now make a video about the battery life and all that good stuff so I have a reason to buy one :^)

>>59339498
I've had the thing for 2 hours

It charged up really fast; advertised charge time is 100% accurate. the precision touchpad is incredible and the trackpoint is as goat as ever

screen is nice, expecting it to be ~90%srgb compared to the yoga which was 80% and my desktop monitor which is 100%

t460s or x1 carbon?

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>>59339498
>>59339546
here's what this shows me

it drops to about 8 when loading web pages

I haven't watched any video on it yet either

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>>59332374
can anyone identify this model of TP?

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>>59339679

>>59339585
Breddy gud
you gonna install loonix on it?

>>59339738
gotta find out if I can put a 42mm SSD in the WWAN slot. It seems to work on other X series and T series thinkpads, but almost never X1s for some fucking reason

I'm going to try fedora to see how wayland is, but I like Ubuntu flavors and Solus as well. Would really like a dedicated drive for distro hopping instead of having to dual boot off of a single drive. Windows hates that shit

>>59339693
With that first-gen i3 sticker and chiclet keyboard, I'm pretty sure you're looking at one of the original Edge series models. I'm no good with sense of scale but I'd bet on it being a 13" or 14".

I wouldn't get it unless it's free or <$50.

I desperately love my T420 keyboard now, and I almost can't type on my desktop keyboard now,
What keyboard can I get so it would be similar to T420 keyboard?

>>59339998
SK-8855

>>59339962
thanks for the guess. she is asking $200 on CL, but hasn't answered any questions about model/specs.

>>59340046
Wow, it's expensive.

>>59340085
Yeah, I wouldn't bother. $200 is T420/T430 range, and those are far better-built and specced. Mobile i3s are really awful, especially first-gen.

>>59340104
what about SK-8845 then

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>>59340123
this seems pretty good. i have a SSD sitting here on my desk i could toss in this mofo.

>tfw two nice HP EliteBook 2570p's came into my work
Priced one super high because muh i7

>>59333184
W700 flexed, kinda bummed me out

>>59336042
Wow I really gotta do that mod!

>>59338092
That is correct, but the 900p display that was compatible was the M14X after someone had some courage. This happened sometime after the 1080p LCD mod chip.

>>59338371
Throw the term Ultrabook and people pay up.
Objectively much better if you like fatter.

>>59340085
>$200 for an unknown i3 laptop
Please... jesus christ, you can get an i5 ivy system at that price

>>59340188
Come on, I don't need EXACTLY the same keyboard, just something comfy to type on and similar to my T420. Would be good if that existed.

Is anyone actually confirmed for owning a w701ds here? I know I'm not the only one with a w700ds and others have owned one and later sold it.
What's the rarest thunkpad you own I guess.

>>59337496
T430 cuck here, I too would like to know more about computrace.

are thinkpads able to connect to 5 GHz wireless? for some reason my 2.4g network is typically half the speed of my 5g.

>>59340482
I bought an X220 with a DW1510 just so I could install hackintosh on that thing, and it just werks. I'm using my 5GHz wireless connection at home.

To be honest I'm impressed with that card, considering it was cheap as shit (10€)

>>59332374
>tfw i bought a i7-2670qm for 50 bucks
Its going into my t420
Did i do good?

>>59340743
pretty cool.

I wish the CPU on my x220 wasn't soldered.

>>59340743
dunno about burger prices but i'm running a 2720qm on mine, it works fine.

>>59340517
so they can't connect to 5g out of the box?

>>59340835
I don't think mine can, but I didn't even try anyways.

You should check depending on the model you want.

>>59340835
I'm pretty sure the t420 can because I remember connecting to a 5ghz hotspot from my phone once.

but yes I also changed the card to install gayos

>>59340835
>>59340902
what, are you morons 12 or something? it doesnt fucking matter if its a t420 or x220. What matters is which wifi adapter is installed. If that model supports 5ghz N, then the thinkpad will connect to 5ghz N.

>what the fuck is wrong with you people

>>59340951
Every t420 i've seen had the centrino advanced-n 6205, thought it was a standard wlan card.

>>59341063
>>59340951
Yeah all T420's and X220's come equipped with a dual band wlan card. The most notable being the 6205 as mentioned.

also
>>59333333

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Finally I AM THE ONE WHO MAKES THE DECISIONS HUHAHAHAHAHA

do I do it?

>>59334812

Latitudes have poor keyboard.
driver support for windows 10 is crappy for the ivy bridge series.

>>59342239
Watching the Men in Black? No do not do that.

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>>59342252
Thanks but I'm looking into getting precision 4500 instead. At least I can get it with full hd for pretty cheap.

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>>59342265
Yes this is much better

Here's hoping Lenovo drivers make the thinkpad touchscreen a little better

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more aesthetic than a thinkpad

>>59342773
>tfw ywn have a japanese laptop

>>59342773
brehs

>>59339851
Not him, but I'm curious if that works. Was thinking about getting an m.2 SSD for a secondary hard drive.

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>>59342803
>>59342813

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Who's got a ProBook 440 G3 in here? If you have the 768p panel, what is the OEM and model? The thing comes out easy, 2 bezel screws, pop bezel, 4 display screws.
I fucking threw my broken one away and I'm in a predicament and need the info

>>59336604

You have to go back.

How much battery life can you get from something like an x61t or an x220/x230?
I have a 7 hour commute and would like to be more productive with my time.

>>59343081
>7 hour commute

is that daily?

>>59343138
3-4 days a week. 3.5 each way.

>>59343140
Why would anyone do this?

>>59342300
Since when do latitudes have middle trackpoint buttons?

>>59343165
They've had trackpoint buttons for a very long time, pretty much since the beginning of the Latitude line I believe.

>>59343165
thats not a latitude its a precision 4500

>>59343156
A U S T R A L I A

>>59343165
It's Elitebooks that only have two buttons.

>>59343172
>>59343178
>>59343223
Sorry, I'm retarded

>>59333598
this post didn't get enough replies

good work

>>59333598
>X230 with *20 keyboard mod and IPS display. New 9 Cell and SSD.
Does *20 keyboard mod mean taking a keyboard from an x220? Does that mod work fully now? Last I heard it lost some functionality.

Did any x230s come with IPS displays or would that be something to do after the fact?

>>59343437
yes and yes

>>59338771
wrong

>>59343503
How much better is installing an IPS screen into an x230 and how much would it cost?

>>59332374
I am between a t420 or an x1 hybrid, which one do you recommend. id on ot mind it being 13 inches. both the same price 180 what you sugest?

>>59342773
>>59342883
Thicc
Also nice digits

>>59333598
Poorfag freedom (or rms worship since he uses an X60):
Any of the X60 series with whatever upgrades and fixes you might want. At least replace or remove the intel wi-fi since it doesn't work without non-free firmware.

X200 w/ BIOS replacement gets a bit expensive unless you want to flash it yourself and already own the necessary hardware for the job. X60 series can be flashed with software on GNU/Linux.

>>59343613

T420

>>59343821
>4
thank you for replying. is it a good deal for the price?

>>59343845

specs? country or continent?

>>59343613
t420 desu

What sensitivity level is best for the red clit?

really loving this x230t.
Thought i might not like the keyboard but it's honestly really nice. Much more tactile than i thought. I went from the *20 keyboard to this and there were no hiccups. I really like the black unmarked thinkvantage button. the blue one seemed gimmicky. Also was worried i wouldnt like the minitured palmrest without dedicated buttons but it's way more intuitive than a mac laptop as well.

So far tablet mode works well with windows 10, tomorrow i will be installing linux which will probably be much more involved if i want a complete hybrid tablet system. Sort of concerned if/how i will detect tablet mode but its not essential.

Shoved a old Win10 ssd that was in(and "drivered" for) my t420 into this hoping it would work oob and it did! Took an extra minute to boot detecting the devices and such, very happy with this portability.

I guess the biggest con if i wanted to be a cunt is the low screen res but i bet linux will make this a little better.

>>59344210
Oh i guess the browser back/fwd buttons being replaced is also a con. Used to love being able to hit those with my pinky

>>59343949
Brand: IBM Lenovo
Model: ThinkPad T420
Laptop Type: Laptop

Processor
Processor: Intel Core i5 Processor (2540M) 2.60GHz

Memory
Installed Memory: 4GB RAM

Hard Drive
Hard Drive: 120GB SSD HD

Display
Screen Size: 14" Screen
Resolution: 1600 x 900

Integrated Camera

Webcam: yes

Wireless: WiFi | Bluetooth

Optical Drive
Optical drive: DVDRW

Ports:
USB: 3

Operating System
Software: Windows 7 Pro (64-bit) with COA Installed- Ready to use. (CD media not included)


CANADA 180 usd

>>59344234

yes, the price is alright.

>>59337243
dunno, like no matter how powerful machine you have, you will always see some lag when opening the context menu. I've seen here some screenshots of ads in explorer and so on.mostly liokely i will end installing linux again, hoping i won't break it while tinkering

>>59337453
sexy

>>59338092
the IPSs require the board, tn to tn no

>>59340250
>Wow I really gotta do that mod!
hey sexy mofo, let us know how it goes, or if you find a decent supplier... which ships to europe

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>>59340233

>extended 9cell

>4 hours

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my T420 has a slight keyboard flex on the center-left side.

how exactly can I fix this? heard something about tape on the bottom case/keyboard or something.

thanks.

is the oled display version of the yoga worth it?

Holy shit guys i hit the jackpot.
>Mention to friend that I use ThinkPads
>"I have a few I don't need, you can have them for free"
They're pretty old but great machines. X301, T61 and T43p.

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>>59332374
Daily reminder: most tp/g/ users are little kids who never leave their parent's house, which takes away the """mobility""" argument away
Enjoy your cumstained 10 years old deprecated shitpads. You could've gone with a desktop PC.

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just saw that my keyboard is slightly bent, wtf, is it supposed to be that way ? i've had it for couple of months and noticed it today

>>59345353
No it shouldn't. But it serves you right for buying a chiclet piece of shit model.

>>59345401
you're lack of argument is stunning

>>59345231

post pix

>>59345353
>is it supposed to be that way
yes, the new Airdome feature.

>>59345401
thanks for the input and the kind words, anon.
i actually find the chiclet POS better than the old style kbd, i just miss the 7th row. I will reinstall the keyboard then.

>>59345452
cool

Would ya'll suggest a w530 for a cheap workstation laptop? Or has technology gone further so a modern general GPU would outperform a Workstation GPU?

>>59345690
>has technology gone further so a modern general GPU would outperform a Workstation GPU?
Just going off of passmark to compare the P50 offerings, the M1000m is twice as powerful as the K2000m and the M2000m a bit more still. I havent really shopped around for GPU performance much so I don't know what the ideal option for graphics performance is, but using the P50 as a point of reference you might be paying about twice as much for a fair bit over twice the graphics performance. Up to you'll get enough value out of that GPU, but in every other regard a W530 isn't going to be far behind anything more modern.

Just got my eGPU setup today, near enough everything sorted. Can I get the laptop display to run through the graphics card? According to the nvidia panel I can run through the graphics card on external but not on the laptop display

>>59345401
Are you going to say the older models can't get bent?

Because you're dead fucking wrong, nigger.

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>>59346296
Also, my laptop CPU temps are way higher than normal but it doesn't really feel that hot
help

>>59346296
I have no personal experience with eGPUs, but it should be possible to display on the laptop screen while doing processing on the eGPU but since you're using the one tiny PCIE connection to send that much data it ends up being pretty shit. About the heat, I'd make sure the BIOS is up to date, and make sure the iGPU is completely off when you're only using an external display.

I ordered an X201 a while ago from some refurbishing company.

But those guys, I don't know what they're smoking, they send me an HP Elitbook 2570p, so I called them about it and they told they'd set it straight.
So I'm waiting again, and another package arrived just a moment ago, I'm assuming it's the X201 but upon opening it, I find that it's yet ANOTHER 2570p.

This is really driving me nuts, I'm going to have to call them again and ask them what the fuck is going on.

This isn't a Thinkpad question but a laptop question. What's the cheapest possible used laptop I can get that has an i7 and at least 8gb of RAM? I'm looking for the best performance to price ratio. I'm talking about average prices not finding a rare deal.

I know X220 keyboard can be put on X230

But why can't X230 keyboard be put on X220

>>59346592
>i7
The processor being called an i7 won't make it good. The best 1st gen quad i7 is going to be on par with an average i5 from 2nd gen onwards.

>>59346592
>8gb of RAM
Are you too much of a mouthbreather to just add your own? Any computer can have any amount of ram up till that point.

>>59346623
Because the cultish obsession with keyboards extends only to classic ones, so nobody who cares enough to swap keyboards is going to want, or need to swap in a chicklet keyboard.

I've never heard of it being attempted, but I'd assume you could make it work.
>Do the same controller flashing but with different firmware
>Should fit in fine with a palm rest swap
I'm not sure whether covering pins up would need to change, but I'd assume you could get it to work one way or another, it's just a case of figuring out which is redundant.

>>59346682
I want to look at 3rd and 4th gen i7

>>59346453
Fuck, I'm using a custom bios so I can run my ram at 1600mhz, is there a modern custom bios version anywhere?

>>59346956
I was just suggesting the BIOS just to eliminate the chance of it somehow mishandling the graphics, if it's going to be a pain to change I'd try and eliminate any other possible cause of the overheating first. If it's not based on a stupidly early version I doubt it's the cause anyway.

>>59346296
Dunno, when I had an eGPU setup I just used two monitors connected to the GPU while the thinkpad was docked.

>>59346956
I used the same BIOS with my eGPU setup.

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>>59346500
>I find that it's yet ANOTHER 2570p.

you should send it back and ask for a 2570p

>>59344681

bump pls

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Listen, I won't deny this thing survives water, but I hate using foam to get a stable keyboard.

>>59347425
funny, I just posted this >>59347642
because I have a similar problem, and that's what I have to do to fix it (put a lot of foam under). I'm willing to bet there's a cleaner solution but I'm not exactly sure how.

>>59347661
ah sheeit nigga I can't disassemble it that far, I'm gonna break something for sure. I thought it's something like literally putting a little bit of tape on the underside of the keyboard.

>>59347725
wut

I only took off the keyboard, that's 2 screws. I'm not sure how many are there on the T420 but I don't think it'll be that different.

Heck all you have to be careful is the flex cable on the keyboard. The picture may not be good for it but basically the places I put foam under can be easily lifted with your finger because it's like cheap plastic.

Also remember, these things are pretty much designed so you can take them apart and fuck around. They labeled everything so you can open the thing. There's even an easily available operations manual for the fucking thing, though I heard that if you want to change the thermal paste it's a bit of a pain in the ass to put it back correctly (not more than other laptops, I fixed (and broke) quite a few in my time.

>>59347816
all you have to be careful about

>>59347816
>I'm not sure how many are there on the T420
Only one, next to the RAM slot.

>>59347835
Just one? No wonder the thing flexes. I'm willing to think they did it on purpose.

>>59332374
>http://ktgee.net/tpg
>http://www.dankpads.com

is there numpad less thinkpad model that have m.2 2280 slot and also have a dvd drive?

>>59347816

oh ok thanks I'll look into it.

>>59347853

yea, only one screw. I had a 8440p that spoiled me so much when it comes to laptop keyboards that thing was tight and solid as a rock with an aluminum palm rest. they switched to chiclets right after the 1st gen i5's, so a T420 was its natural heir.

I dunno what I'll do when this thing breaks/the cpu isn't powerful anymore, I guess I'll go with a latitude or a T5xx


>>59347906

no

What should I scrub down a used T60's keyboard with? Is rubbing alcohol just fine?

>>59345401
Oh god will you retards never go away? The chiclet keyboard was the biggest improvement Lenovo made to the line. They're finally getting their shit together with Thinkpads.

>>59348095
Paint thinner

>>59348095
Since it's used, the keycaps will have been molded themselves over time fit the posture of the previous user and the shape of their fingers. I'd recommend that you lightly brush them down with petrol before doing some typing exercises or something else that gets you typing. The petrol will slightly liquify the keycaps and allow them to be remolded as you type.

If you just want to get it clean then isopropyl/rubbing alcohol will work fine.

>>59342300

Ow boy, what a brick ! For refurb Dell, look at https://www.dellrefurbished.com/

They frequently have sales, watch the mailing list. good source of perfect condition used with waranty.

how well does linux work on the x1 yoga?

>>59348693
>B grade
>E6420
>$320

wew

>>59343506
Explain.
First-gen chiclets had more key travel than newer generations, and they kept the dedicated volume and mute keys.

>>59348765

wait for 40%off +FS sitewide coupon. it happens every other month/ every hollidays.

b grade is actually not too bad, definetly better than most ebay listings.

>>59348769
They did not have more travel and they did have more flex

>>59332374
thinking of getting chromebook
which one ?
>n22 or 11e ?

>>59348866
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Google-Chromebook-Pixel-32GB-WiFi-Retina-2560x1700-Touchscreen-Warranty-/152309804260

>>59348866
x131e Chromebook edition
Also nice dubs

>>59332374
Should all the different processors that shipped with the T40 models be interchangeable?

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Random ThinkPadding picture of me a few months ago

>>59335702
>shit screen in general
Not sure about what have you based this generalization upon, but E6400 and E6410 screens in reviews got better marks (more brightness etc) than T400 and T410

>mushy keyboards
Again, I don't know whats your experience anon, but to me the only thing that feels wrong on my E6410 keyboard is the absence of back, forward and context menu keys

What should I do with a Thinkpad r31 I have? Any ideas?

>>59349116
You look cute. We should touch our penises sometimes.

>>59349217
>penises
oops, I meant vaginas

>>59349116
What's happened to its lid upper left corner?

I'd like to get one of these t420,t430,t520,t530. How difficult is it to upgrade the screens to hd hopefully fhd?

>>59349333

T430s can use the Alienware 1600x900 TN screen (40$) with no modification. It's a nice screen, a worthy upgrade.

FHD need an adaptor board that will pull the signal from the dock connector (disponibility is spotty at best and you need to solder stuff to the mobo)

>>59349166

>based on my anecdotal E6410 experience, you're wrong

k

>>59349333
>14"
Have fun hunting down obscure panels and getting them to fit and sorting out adapters. 1600x900 is alright enough with a good panel though.

>15"
FHD screens were a factory option and panel in particular that was used is great. Upgrading it is mostly a case of getting the screen bezels off, unscrewing the original panel then swapping in the new one.

>>59349381
K thanks. Know anything about the t5x0? I'm thinking about buying it with 1600x900 already.

>>59349390
>>59349407
K thanks that pretty much takes care of my question.

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>>59349116
Looks like a GP waiting room in England somewhere

Are you dying anon?

>>59349407

nothing that I know of. I heard of screen mods for T530 but panels are super hard to find. Be wary of "compatible" panels...

For a T420/s and T430/s, buy this exact pannel: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221838703084?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

If you already have a 900p pannel, it's a drop-in replacement. If you have the 768p pannel, you need to get the longer LVDM cable from Lenovo (10$ max).

>>59333598
What about I want something 14" with ips display?

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>>59349504
http://imgur.com/a/HPvAq

Pic related.

>>59349524

It will be the *40 series and up.

>>59349538
Cool thanks. I'm trying to buy t430s with 1600x900 right now.

x230 here

Does anyone have any idea what to do with the ExpressCard slot? I was thinking of installing some form of SSD, but can't find anything online anywhere

>>59349524
X1 Carbon 2016 or later. In 2015 the 1080p models still used a TN panel; only the WQHD was IPS
any T450s or later

the IPS panels on regular t4*0 series are horrible. only the Carbon and slim model Ts have decent screens

>>59349677

You can use it as a eGPU connector. It's pointless to use it for storage, you already have msata and 2.5in sata. For people with x220, it can be a dual usb3 adaptator, pretty convenient. you could use it for esata.

For a x230, I don't see what you would use it for unless you hurting for usb ports or want more eSATA (kinda useless if you already have USB3.

You night be able to find a built-in mouse or slim remote-control that fit in the port.

>>59349677
more usb ports, wwan or egpu

>>59349686
>>59349553
Damn. Only two options...guess I'll get the slim T then. Really want one with a larger and better screen than my x220t.
I've also notice the t430s mobo is very similar to the t420s' do you think it's possible to get the t430s mobo and stuck it into a t420s housing? I got a t420s that has a messed up mobo

>>59349773
t450s is your best bet since it has great battery life and an external battery

the t460s and t470s are just worse Carbons

>>59349823

lenovo outlet have a few of them

>>59349843
I say pull the trigger. I bet you won't be disappointed

Can someone explain why thinkpads /certain laptops still have that mouse joystick in the middle of the keyboard when it has a trackpad?

When would you ever use that joystick? I only use it when I'm in a meeting and I'm bored but I'm assuming that's not the main purpose of it.

>>59349906
Because non-apple touchpads are fucking cancerous.

Trackpoint + disabled touchpad master race.

>>59344234
where is that deal coming from, it sounds like something that would work well for me too...

>>59349957

http://www.ebay.com/itm/182481833019
http://www.ebay.com/itm/122386212769

There is no shortage of sub 200USD T430/s
no need to get a *20 series...

>>59349504
>>59349504
just to comfirm, this panel will work on a regular t430, yes?

This is probably stupid, but

How would someone go around painting an X220 case?

I just want a different color. I considered one of those big stickers, but... eehh.

>>59349504
>Does not ship to Austria
reee

>>59350054
yeah should afaik

>>59350068
was thinking about plastidip the other day

>>59350114
plastidip eh? I wonder how that works on that case.

>>59349387

Dunno, maybe >>59335702 has seen hundreds of Latitudes and hundreds of Thinkpads and therefore has more data to judge from, but even if so, I don't think one could say Dell's keyboards are shit. And the argument about the screens just doesn't stand true for all Dell models in general, maybe it's true for some, dunno.

>>59350168
dunno either, never went beyond just thinking about it.

>>59332374
Is this T430S worth 300 eurobucks?
i7 3520M, 8gb RAM, 240gb SSD, 14'' 1600x900 screen.

I doubt I'll need even half of that computing power, but damn it's hard to find a model that doesn't have the 1366x768 screen.

>>59349823
That 1600x900 res
I always felt not enough space on my t420s before I screwed it up.

Any FHD mods for my T420, or any other way to improve it?

My battery is close to death at 6% capacity, how can I revive it? I've heard mixed things about Freezing

>>59350054
yes

This is a very stupid question but I'm going to ask anyways.

If I replace the WWAN card on my X220 with a mPCIE SSD, what's the bandwidth limit on that?

>>59332374
430s best think

>>59350178
Not that guy but Dell keyboards are shit COMPARED to pre*40 series Thinkpad, that's well known, no doubts about that. They aren't complete shit tho, still better than any "consumer" laptops.

Screen are crappy, on both Latitudes and Thinkpads, crappyer than consumer grade laptops. I don't know why, maybe they expect people to use a docking station and external screen all the time.

>>59350608

It's already pretty much dead so... buy a new one ?

>>59350697
sata2 speeds

>>59350815
aww.

>>59350815
>>59350697

it's mSATA slot. The speed is limited to sata2 but the difference with sata3 in the real world is neglectable. You still get most of the advantages of ssd.

>>59350830
It's more than enough for a main OS drive though.

I doubt you'll do transfers of large files between SATA3 SSDs regularly.

>>59350869
>>59350870
I see. I already have a 128gb SSD SATA drive (a micron C400 that was included with the laptop, that is), but I'm looking to have some storage that is not mechanical.

Not sure if I will fuck myself if I decide to buy a big mSATA SSD.

>>59350893

you can always salvage the mSATA into a 2.5in drive with an adaptator later down the line.

>>59350590
chink shit from 51nb

otherwise no.

>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430s-2355HFU-2-60GHz-CORE-i5-3320M-4GB-128GB-SSD-W7PRO-Webcam-/371875128672?hash=item56957c2560:g:SIkAAOSw5cNYm2d~
What does the /g/enius bar think?

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>>59349116
the memes follow you

any opinion on the yoga? S1 with an i5 on ebay for 300.

Anybody have Optimus and running linux? How do you get audio through DP to HDMI connection with nouveau?

Ive never been able to get the DP port to work with proprietary drivers on my T420 but I tried a fresh install of Fedora 25 and I was able to get an external display to work out of the box however I don't have any audio...

>>59351066
>T430s
into the trash it goes

>>59351159
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Yoga-S1-12-5-Inch-Convertible-Touchscreen-Ultrabook-WIN-10-/232261462365?hash=item3613dca95d:g:btsAAOSw8gVX4Gzv

this is the pad in question, any good?>

>>59351284
I don't get the T430s hate, I'd love to have something that does 95% of what a regular T430 can do (plus Thunderbolt which is pretty fucking cool) but with the z-height of an X series. My only T4/5xx series gripe besides the obvious is just that - they should really be less than 2.5cm tall.

>>59351361
it would be incredible if it had more the 3 hours of battery life

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>>59351651

>>59351641
>posting disgusting 3D whores
kys

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>>59351553
i'm
>>59351651


>>59351706
cool

>>59351740
how much do you actually get if doing stuff like web browsing, video watching, etc?

>>59351762
that's with ultrabay battery tho, i'd say both of the batteries hold realistically 2,5h

>>59349116
Public, Private or an "Academy?"

>>59332374
X230T, brand new
i5 3320m
4GiB RAM
1TB HDD
IPS display
Comes with the pen and 65W charger
300€ or 340€ if I want 8GiB ram and 120 GiB SSD
Is it a decent price? I'm looking for a shitposting rig. Are CPUs soldered on those or could I swap it for a QM i7?

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I'm using a T510 and Windows 7, have the Conexant driver shit installed and the microphone is enabled in the BIOS but no recording devices appear in the sound settings.

What do?

Bought a T440s with i7-4600u, 8gb ram, SSD, and the HD+ monitor for $350. How'd I do TPG?

>>59351779
neat

>>59351037
some russian on thinkpadforums is also selling a kit. 55USD but you need to solder stuff to the mobo and buy separate panel (80$). Simply not worth it.

>>59346355
disable turbo boost by setting your maximum processor usage to 95% in the advanced power plan settings.

if you had to choose now, on the spot, which would you pick and why?

>ThinkPad T61
>ThinkPad x200
>IdeaPad s400 (I know nobody is going to pick this :-) )

>>59351066

It's a bit expensive. I got a better one (8gb ram) at 160USD 3 week ago.

>>59351360

http://outlet.lenovo.com/outlet_us/itemdetails/20FDCTR1WW-MP16X7FQ/445

the battery must be dead by now.

>>59351361

T430s does not have thunderbolt. There is a mini-displayport tho.

>>59351641

They clean them and verify that all hardware is working as intended then flash a clean windows install.

They never replace any hardware unless it's broken.

How's Win10 on a t420? Anything I need to worry about.

In b4 "Poo in the loo, botnet central", I need office, and I want ubuntu on windows rather that coming up with a dual boot solution.

>>59353363
>ubuntu on windows
In a VM? Why though? Ubuntu installer takes you by the hand to a nice dualboot

>>59353363

It's ok. Install the relevant lenovo utilities and everything will work as intended.

>>59353498

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/commandline/wsl/about

How have you not heard about this?

New thread:
>>59353744