Vault7 is the nail in the coffin

>unplug ethernet cable

wow so hard

OP is a cuck

>>59285764

oh right .. i forgot! intelligence agencies came with the internet. They have no idea how to stalk your ass IRL just like in the good old days.

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>>59285787
>ever doing anything or going outside

hahahaha normiecuck

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Can wikileaks even be trusted? I mean look at this

>WikiLeaks has published a huge trove of what appear to be CIA spying secrets.

The files are the most comprehensive release of US spying files ever made public, according to Julian Assange. In all, there are 8,761 documents that account for "the entire hacking capacity of the CIA", Mr Assange claimed in a release, and the trove is just the first of a series of "Vault 7" leaks.

Already, the files include far more pages than the Snowden files that exposed the vast hacking power of the NSA and other agencies.

In publishing the documents, WikiLeaks had ensured that the CIA had "lost control of its arsenal", he claimed. That included a range of software and exploits that if real could allow unparalleled control of computers around the world.

>>59285764
Even that won't save you anon. It has been proven that modern Intel chips can be accessed using cell networks. The chip can read anything on your computer or attached network.

The only way is to unplug your Ethernet and put your computer in a Faraday cage.

>retards don't listen when I tell them Linux has almost no anti exploitation protection
>They get surprised when linux gets owned by a nation state
Lol

>>59285979
>"B-b-but nobody is interested in my hackzorrr OS"

>>59285979

well not even that. It gave you a sense of freedom that was just an illusion. Its not just about the CIA, NSA .. theres absolutely no point in thinking you will ever have any freedom on any system.

its fucking OVER

>>59285973
What part of "airgap-jumping" do you not understand

>>59286028
I don't shill bsd, I realize that the government can see what I'm doing regardless, especially since they decrypt all SSL traffic.

This isn't news. Who are the retards who really thought their autistic dees tree bue shun could protect them from professionals? The point of using open source is to not give your info to corporations. You literally can't defend yourself from state actors unless you make your own chips, write your own OS and never go online

so there'll be a round of patches that fixes everything

what's big deal? ya'll run windows in DEP mode, right?

>>59286156

>so there'll be a round of patches that fixes everything

LOL ... patch what exactly?! You think you can patch kernels, whole operating systems from the ground up and the CIA won't get in anymore?

How deluded are you still? Look at these releases. They alos have an unlimited money bag and can hire whoever they fucking want.

>anon unironically believes open source freetard github weebs will patch his precious OS and make it secure

>>59286111
It's done literally all the time. The CIA has dozens of programs that jump the airgap.

>>59286180
CIA:
>helo world we can do it using that like this

You:
>hurr wut do I patch? the skey is fallingh

>>59286111
www.wired.com/2016/06/clever-attack-uses-sound-computers-fan-steal-data/amp/

>>59285725
At least Apple devices are 100% secure, not like the shit tier chink stuff on the market. At least so I heard on /g/

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>>59285725
TempleOS, Terry was right all along about CIA niggers and the ills of a network stack
>Turns out god was actually relaying him messages all along

>>59285764
>>unplug ethernet cable
As if it were that easy
https://github.com/fulldecent/system-bus-radio

Defeated? I am living with accepting that APTs will never be evaded. They are invasive and have us fucked at the ISP.

I'm okay with this, but there are still ways to make you less vulnerable. If they wanted to they can pwn you. This is an undeniable fact.

Unless of course, you're a Ganoo Monk with libreboot, libre hardware, and libre software who doesn't connect to untrusted networks.

Remember, "there is no spoon"

>>59286319
wow this

>>59286406
>Unless of course, you're a Ganoo Monk with libreboot, libre hardware, and libre software who doesn't connect to untrusted networks.

theres no such thing as a 'trusted network' and a short peak into the wikileaks release from today will show you that your librebroot, librehwardware and software will never be safe no matter what

>>59286406
>libre hardware
the fuck is that, homemade CPUs?

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>>59285725

>>59286367
didn't they have to keep the receiver antenna very close to the motherboard to pick up the signal?

>>59286464
> librebroot, librehwardware and software will never be safe no matter what

Of course nothing is 100% safe. There are always potential for bad code being leveraged for attacks. As long as humans write code there will always be vulnerabilities to be exploited.

So unless you audit every software for security practices, and that takes a lot of time, you're right, you're not 100% safe.

So there are things you risk when you go on; what do you risk when you use a CIA/NSA app or network? Personal data? they already have state access to your SIN so what? I'm not saying nothing to hide, nothing to fear, i'm saying there is such a thing as hiding in plain sight as in being a normie and risking nothing but what you've already put out there.

>>59286502
leemote

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>>59286319

>>59285725
if their super secret hacking techniques are so great, how do we know they exist?

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>>59286309
>apple devices secure
No. They collect data and give it to NSA.

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>>59286464

>no matter what
In such certain terms, we don't need to talk about computing or hacking to discuss this fact.

They don't need your freedoms on your PC mate, they already own it. You pay them to do so in your taxes.

If you want to maintain your anonymity and privacy, you must educate yourself. Simple. You must be able to do what you want to do without getting on anyone's radar. It's not about making your shit unreadable, you might as well put up a sign that says "look here". Try instead, to blend in with the absolute mountain of white noise, for the moment.. until quantum computing pretty much fucks everything you considered sealed right up.

seriously /g/, how many of you cunts _DIDN'T_ know at the exact time of the snowden hubbub that this shit was coming or hadn't already happened.

Duh.
I'd say your mind is the only thing that can't get hacked (pwnt) these days, but really, that's untrue and has been for thousands of years (see: bible).

>>59286531
With an off-the-shelf handheld radio, yes. But actual surveillance equipment WILL pick it up.

>>59286319

So I have an ultimatium.

Um..

So, Bill Gates and Illuminati got a herd of nigger cattle ( OOOO WE GOT A HERD OF NIGGER CATTLE, WE GOT A HERD OF NIGGER CATTLE) They got a big herd of nigger cattle. Yippee Ki-Yay, we're nigger cattle herders. We got a herd of nigger cattle. They are the most docile fucking nigger cattle, we got 'em so docile, we got this awesome big fucking herd of nigger cattle. And they shit, and they sit there, and they watch TV, and they shit. It's the best fucking herd of nigger cattle. We took away all their guns, now they just shit, and we watch them and we're rich. We are so fucking rich, we have so much fucking money, we got this herd of nigger cattle, woooo, we're milking the fucking nigger cattle. It's the best thing ever.

So that's what the illuminati got, and I got a space alien.

So, here's my ultimatium: you can live in hell, with your herd of nigger cattle, or you can put me in charge of the Space Alien Temple. The third temple, okay, that Simple. Have fun with your nigger cattle 'cause I sure as hell ain't gonna fucking suck your fucking jew-nigger cock. Fuck yourself, you think I'm gonna fucking enjoy nigger cattle after I've had a fucking space alien? Are you fucking crazy? I've got a fucking space alien, of course I'm not gonna fuck with nigger cattle, fuck yourself! Enjoy your fucking nigger cattle! You got the nigger cattle, You got the nigger cattle, You got the nigger cattle, GO GO GO GO GO! You got the nigger cattle, you got a fucking herd of nigger cattle, we got 'em so docile, they just shit all day, ain't that great?

>>59286575
a system is only as secure as the one who implements it and humans are almost flawless in their ability to be consistently compromised.

>>59285725
Is templeOS Compromised though?


CIA niggers was an underrated meme, we never know what he meant by this

>>59286592
>I'd say your mind is the only thing that can't get hacked (pwnt) these days, but really, that's untrue and has been for thousands of years (see: bible).


MKULTRA brah

But yeah, your mind is you best weapon I agree. It takes discipline and years of mediation to even get it controllable.

Just imagine running a wireshark (mindfulness) scan of your mind 24 hours. Look at all the shit there.

>>59286515
>linux
>not supported


wat

>>59285725
Stop using (((tech)))

>I'd say your mind is the only thing that can't get hacked (pwnt) these days, but really, that's untrue and has been for thousands of years (see: bible).

>but really, that's untrue

well you got that right at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foil0hzl4Pg

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>>59285725
Gentoo testing hardened+selinux+iptables+wayland.
/thread

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>>59286319
He was right all along

>>59286592
>>59286638

forgot ... see here: >>59286660

Your brain is not secure at all!

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>>59286659
Time to go innawoods?

>>59286658
I'm guessing they have some other way to get key strokes but I haven't come across it yet.
Win and mac systems didn't even make the list prob because they just get that data through telemetry

>>59286672

(insert mild CIA **pfft** in here)

>>59286319
TempleOS has no user permissions. If you think someone in the CIA couldn't pwn TempleOS with a week of work in HolyC, you're a fucking idiot.

>>59285973
Source

>>59286693
Hello CIA I think NSA is stronger than you

>>59286713

>a week

you mean an hour or less. Terry himself says he can crash his OS at any time since its literally running on the (((metal))) at any given time you can write code while using the OS and ruin it all by yourself. You can write programs inside of TempleOS and use them right away.

>>59286693
CIA don't watch you if you american, NSA do.

>>59286691
well the thing is that windows can be riced out of existance so you won't have any telemetry at all. I've done it even on win10, monitored the network activity for 2 weeks and nothing really went out, besides the expected obviously.

The "downsides" are that you can't update your system anymore and can't do some other boring shit.

The sad truth however is that i'm 100% sure they have 0-days in probably every single windows machine out there, win10 at least.

>>59286738
Yeah, I was stupid to say "week". Obviously straight crashing is easy, but building a networked keylogger/exploiter is slightly harder.

>>59286762

>CIA don't watch you if you american, NSA do.

hahaha ... they do whatever the fuck they want.

>>59286762
MKULTRA says that the CIA has done and will continue to work Domestically as well as on foreign soil. You are naive or a shill.

>>59285725
Why are most Android exploits directed at price?

>>59286723
Do you know what the term "microcode" means

>>59286675
Brain is very open to hacking. The power of suggestion is very exploitable.

T. Hypnosis

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So much for 'muh 7 proxies'

The Samsung tv exploit is the most damning. I mean that's some real tinfoil hat shit, that they would turn a tv into a listening device, but there it is, proof in the pudding. A spy in your living room.

>he doesn't use OpenBSD on internet facing machines or TempleOS on air gapped machines
>>59285886
Fuck off CIA nigger, it's too late to surrender to IRA now

>>59286927
>telescreens from 1984 are real now

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>Privilege Escalation Modules (KB)
>The referenced resource is currently not available.

why would they deliberately leave the best part out?

>>59286970

i think wikileaks intentionally holds some stuff back that could be used in a malicious way today to hurt us

but then again it doesnt matter and these fucks most likely ruined the internet forever and caused billions of damage for the companies involved haha

>>59286789
Good luck getting networking with no network stupid MIT nigger
>muh fan/speakers
Good kick getting at those work no drivers dumb fuck

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>>59286638

mm dat tentacle porn vulnerability amirite?

I completely understand the sentiment, and I learnt a little bit about myself because of your comment, so thanks.

I'd love to approach myself like an infosec appraisal... I'd fail in so many ways.

>>59286786
>0-days in every single

honest question, could there not potentially be hundreds or thousands of zero-day exploits on distributed piece of technology that exists ever?

Philosophically speaking, it's about how you attack your target, from what vector, with what approach, how do you make it flip in such a way that another part of the puzzle falls into place.

Allow me to draw example to soemthing completely unrelated and call it a good argument.

Ocarina of Time (n64) had a speedrun community for over a decade before the wrong warp skip was found and perfected. This is a small game on an old as fuck delivery method, and people are still finding things out about it years after it was given to us.

My point is this, you're only kidding yourself if you think you can't be owned, eventually.

Break your patterns down to the daily, when do you shit, when do you go have that soykaf down at the local barista bar, etc?

Why this level of paranoia?

I don't know dude, I'm not the one with anything worth hiding (not arguing in favor or resignation towards the status quo).

Decide what it is that you wish to protect, and if it is something that other people may not want you to protect, then be aware that you are not safe, because after all your faiilsafes, your preprogrammed drone that takes your HDD to the local incinerator incase you have to panic button, after all these carefully laid plans of information safety go to waste, you're going to get hit by a bus, shot by a mugger, stabbed by an angry bunch of hyenas.

I'm not even kidding. This isn't a defeatist attitude. Do not put your trust in things that can be compromised. Namely, computers, people, institutions, self.

Pic only slightly ironic.

>>59286927
Already been done via Xbox One kinect by the NSA

>>59287024
>do not put your trust in **

if you have something worth protecting, that is. You can trust your samsung TV with your weird porn habits, masturbating to the images found on a Whirling Dervish Appreciation board.

Nothing of value is to be found in those so-called "leaks", which is rather unfortunate. It would be wiser to just disregard them.

>>59285725
>Don't tell me you can figure out how to protect yourself.
Don't stand out from the masses.

>>59287073

how many variations of this meme are out there already?!?!

I just went through this thread and it appears to be nothing substantial sadly.

>>59287024
>I'd love to approach myself like an infosec appraisal... I'd fail in so many ways.

LIke I said, if you look hard enough there will be a kink in your armor.

There is no spoon

If I have reason to go full covert and off-grid, best beleive I wouldnt be on 4chan. I'd be using a ML to write my posts and I'll be using a South East Asian boy's laptop to post on it.

>>59285725
But Linux was the future.

I just went through it and it appears to be nothing substantial.
Wikileaks should be regarded as a terrorist organization for undermining US national security.

>>59286927
>in 2012 america, tv watch you

>page_13763154.html

what happens if I put up this Iframe?

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>>59286531
>>59286595

ummmm. no

>Run this using a 2015 model MacBook Air. Then use a Sony STR-K670P radio receiver with the included antenna and tune it to 1580 kHz on AM.

>You should hear the "Mary Had a Little Lamb" tune playing repeatedly. Other equipment and tuning may work as well. On the equipment above, the author has achieved clear transmission over two meters of open air or one meter through drywall. Different results will be achievable with different equipment.


>>>over two meters of open air or one meter through drywall
>>>over two meters of open air
>>>over two meters

we are doomed

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who else cia spook proof

>>59286927
>I mean that's some real tinfoil hat shit, that they would turn a tv into a listening device

Is it? Compromised webcams have been exploited for years and several related stories were covered by the media. Privacy advocates likened the xbone Kinect to telescreens from 1984 way back when the feature was first announced. Most Smart TVs have the same capabilities for audio and video capture.

Hell, mainstream tech sites have written about this exact shit:
https://www.cnet.com/news/samsungs-warning-our-smart-tvs-record-your-living-room-chatter/

I'm not saying you shouldn't be alarmed, but you really shouldn't be surprised, either.

>>59287148

didnt vizio get caught doing just that recently too

>>59287135
>Different results will be achievable with different equipment.

CIA did not surrender to IRA before December 25
Now they shall suffer the wrath of God

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Sick android 4.x zerodays lmao

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>>59287180
>unsheaths antenna
>nothing personnel kid

>>59287232

a large section of the wiki is dedicated to iOS and Android lmao

its not only the zero days. There is also a section were they talk about their autistic meetings and what type of success they had today. They are on it. This is just an overview of software they have used.

>implying everything they have is documented in this wiki

Reminder that this is just the tip of the iceberg.

>>59285725
The only serious exploit against desktop linux is related to a deprecated daemon.

>windows users were right all along.
Pull that trigger.

>>59287261
I'm very interested in what's coming next.

>>59287268

lmfao ...

>being this delusional

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Top sekkrit iOS 9.2 exploit.
This whole dump is just stuff that any Intel agency worth their salt should be doing everyday.
There's nothing alarming here. Fuck whoever leaked this.

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>>59287277

Im looking forward to what Stallman has to say about this. After all that effort he has put in his life to be off the grid.

>tfw still on windows xp

I-I'm still safe, right guys?

>>59285725
You're missing the point, spooks almost always are able to get to your stuff. They have most of the best people for this. If you bothered to do any reading, you would know this as it's been mentioned decades ago that unless you write your own compiler and make your own chips, you have no assurance as to what is really going on.

>>59287325

he can just do the 'I TOLD YOU SO' routine

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>>59287096
I'm a stupid. How do I not be a stupid and know some of the things you do? Where do I even start?

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>>59285725
The US government invented the Internet, and the deepnet. They've always known about the sick shit that goes down, and they don't care. Hell the CIA probably keeps tabs on all the sociopaths and serial killers out there just so they can hire them later. If you haven't figured this out yet, you haven't been paying attention.

>>59287280
>no proof of exploit
lmfao ...

>being this delusional

Do you have a birth certificate? Or a driving license? Or a bank account? Or a credit card? Then guess what, you're already in the system and nothing you can do can get you out of it.

The documents appear to be fabricated by Wikileaks, a known GRU think tank. Sad.

>>59287353

Start with what?

>>59287372
I'm an unregistered dog.
Checkmate CIA!

>>59286234
>cia tries to read my porn folder
>halfway through the first doujin by the time I die

>>59287361

my god .. no matter what happens you cretins will always say shit like "hahahaha nice tinfoil hat broooo" and then the next BOMB drops and you guys just brush it all over and claim nothing happened that could affect you ever and the circle just goes on and on

don't you realize that your stupid attitude makes this fucking shit work so well in the first place?!

you are that type of faggot who engages in a 30 reply argument when someone says "guys i think my Samsung TV got hacked by the CIA" and you explain him in detail how thats not a thing and nobody cares but then the evidence leaks and you claim "hahaha X page of the wiki is missing literally zero evidence xd!! try harder faggot im SAFE on my Memepad and my LibreBoot Autismtoo OS"

kys you fucking gullible piece of shit. Don't lie to yourself and admit that the situation is as bad as it can.

>>59286097
The sense of freedom that came from Linux was the sense that you had control of the software and could do with it what you wish.

That's still true, it's just that there are exploits in it, like any software.
The nice thing is now that we know of these exploits, people can begin working on ways to patch them.

>>59285725
I just went through it, it appears to be nothing substantial sadly.

So because these are mostly zero days, does that mean that the distributors of the software and hardware are unaware of them?

>>59287443
>unaware
I mean maybe, there's rumors that they paid people to keep some zero-days unpatched as a backdoor

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fuck this shit guys im out of here.

>>59287455
Interesting

>>59287443

>does that mean that the distributors of the software and hardware are unaware of them?

technically yes but its not like Apple, Google & Co didnt know that the CIA is capable of doing those kind of things. They probably let it slide in favor of getting away with all their botnet shit.

Reminder that all of the Silicon Valley fags regularly meet with the administration. Be it Obama or Trump. Its tradition nowadays that the tech fags are in cahoots with the government.

>>59287268
No one is telling you to stop using your Linux. Big brother is always watching, no matter how hard you try to convince yourself otherwise. :^)

>>59287465
>tradition
Tech is the new finance and techfags are beta losers. There's no way the government isn't going to subjugate them.

>>59286234
>The attack, like all previous ones the researchers have devised for air-gapped machines, requires the targeted machine first be infected with malware—in this case, the researchers used proof-of-concept malware they created called Fansmitter, which manipulates the speed of a computer’s fans.

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>>59287496

>>59285725
Told you so faggot.

Fucking skeptics.

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>>59287496

trump & tim cuck

>>59285725
Fucking terrible but unfortunately not unexpected. At least the CIA can't act on us soil they have to get a foreign government to do it and have the fbi use parallel construction

Our society is fucked lads, the rule of law is an illusion

>>59285725

Skimmed through it, literally nothing of any value, just the names leaked and some intro project stuff, it's nothing substantial really.

>>59287539

its funny cause in the leaks they explain how they have a (((tech))) that lets them make it look as if a foreign government did the hacking

sounds a lot like "the russian hacked the election" meme

>>59286309
Nothing is secure, period.

>>59287544
I totally wouldn't worry about it, either brah.

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/g/ is right again

What the fuck happened? What's vault 7? Why is everything a botnet now? I've been away for awhile from /g/ and /pol/

>>59287353
>Where do I even start

With yourself

>>59286970
There are so many privescs in the wild it isn't that big of a deal, I want the real memes, the remote code exec

>>59287605

nothing .. just a meme .. look away ... dont worry about it kid!!

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>>59287605
This should get you started

>>59287605
basically, if you still use win7, you're fucked, CIA knows everything about you now

>>59287635
This, Windows 10 is the safest.

but what about OpenBSD?

>>59287635
What about 2000?

>>59287626
>>59287635
Oh fug

>>59287647

https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_9535850.html

RIP

>>59287651
2000 has an NSA backdoor I believe.

So between Vault7 and Snowden and thus that and the other... Have we found any evidence of the spooks using the management engines in modern CPUs to access computers?

We've long talked of the botnet built in but I've never seen anyone say they've actually been used as an attack vector.

>>59287673
Are you referring to the nsakey key in the registry?

Ill be damned, temple os is the only safe os

>>59287694
It's been so long since I used 2000 but yes I think that's it.
Besides, wouldn't 2000 be easy cake with today's technology?

Now that the government can make it look like other nations did hacking, are we in a new era?

airgapped computer + no speakers + fans connected to molex outlets via convertors to run at constant speed and not get affected by the system

r8 my security

>>59287759

SWATTEAMWITHIN3MINSINYOURROOM/10

>>59287757

its fucking over

>>59287759
Warrant acquired/10

>>59287459
Is this Moxie? The one who sucks google's cock.

>>59287642
>replacing 1 botnet with another

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How can /g/ even compete?

>>59287759
I thought someone came up with a way to use the HDD access lights to transmit data recently?

>>59287683
not yet as far as I know but I did see "PSP" mentioned in one of the docs (though in what context idk)

>>59287737
That may be the case.
But think about the following:
>virus developers
>assume no sane people use a discontinued OS
>write viruses for more used OSes such as windows xp+
>meanwhile i'm comfy with 2000 and also ready with NT4 or even 3
This sounds a solid plan to me. What do you say, random anon?

>>59287800

>implying microsoft didnt tell them about this

>tfw not a single torrent ever explained these kind of steps to anyone

i thought we are all smart?! ffssssssss

>>59287759
Who you defending from?

>>59287709
he really is doing god's work

>>59285949
>WikiLeaks had ensured that the CIA had "lost control of its arsenal",
Didn't CIA declassify these documents? Has Julian lost his marbles?

>>59287803
Should be in a metal case with no gaymur side window, but some electrical tape on all LED's might be good too, along with additional EM shielding to literally and figuratively go tinfoil

>>59287818
Follow your heart.

>>59287417
>pretending muh freedoms on /g/ wasn't always about tinfoilery and not modifying the source
Nice damage control lintard. Just accept your hobby OS got BTFO'd

Normies will NEVER EVER give a fuck about this. IoT will keep growing, there'll be smart cars everywhere, literally everything from cars to refrigerators to watches to televisions will be compromised, literally every single piece of electronic equipment will be a tool for intelligence agencies.

Humanity turning into ants confirmed.

>>59286234
When I used to work in these areas, people were able to read computer screens from a couple hundred meters away from the screen radiation. Big steel door bomb shelters protect against this.

>>59286309
There is literally an ios exploits folder I. The leak. Get rekd.

>>59287333
tfw poorfag
tfw still using windows xp

i want to believe, i really do

>>59286592
There already encryption schemes in use today that are not vulnerable to quantum attacks. Quantum Computing is like an AMD Raisin does great work at a few things sucks at the rest.

>>59285979
>has almost no anti exploitation protection
the fuck are you even talking about nigger

>>59287902

Now all the pedos using these backdoors to harm the chilleuns!

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What do they mean by this?

If the CIA is in my computer, why haven't they stolen my bitcoin I have sitting in an address I generated on my computer with a cmd vanity address finder.....

>>59287333
No you're not, they can trace back everything until 2001.

>>59288034
wtf where's the zero button?

>>59288045
So 2000 is safe?

>>59288059
If you mean Windows in general, no.
Maybe some Unix system from the 90s and 80s might be safe.

>>59286823
Do you? Because it doesn't have anything to do with what we're discussing here.

>>59287892
Linux still isn't an advertising platform.

https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_11629035.html

Development environment

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>>59288059
pre DOS 5.0
pre Windows 3.22
TempleOS

>>59288042
They dont want your money, they want your MIND AND SOUL.

>>59288138
>3.22
Windows 3.22 existed?

I have to say I'm mostly impressed by the code names for the projects

>>59286789
templeOS doesn+t connect to the internet you retard

>>59287562
Thank god they keep hammering on that Russian hack meme. Makes the intelligence community and their press puppets lose ever more credibility. This leak is coming at a great time.

So..did they implant backdoors in truecrypt or (((shut them down))) ?
asking for a friend's wife's son

>>59288191
It only needs to connect with god anyways.

>>59288133
>Microsoft Office
>Chrome
>Git
>VMware

BAN THIS HACKER SOFTWARE NOW

There's nothing substantial in those files, moreover Assange is a russian shill, don't believe his lies.

>>59288309
>CIA nigger detected

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To the people saying this is expected and that pro spooks should have the capabilities.

You are not wrong.

The problem isn't the scope of capabilities the problem is twofold:

The lack of rule of law or governance over these agencies. They are not held accountable. This shits our enshrined rights and values as a society and is a dangerous, dangerous threat to our democracy and erodes at the concept of rule of law.

Secondly, the ease of use. It used to be actual people has to do actual things to get at a target. Now they are just a few clicks away from knowing the intimate details of nearly anyone. This combines with the first point means this is being abuses right and the problem will only grow worse.

Our entire concept of society is in danger of unraveling because we lack the will to enforce effective governance on our military and intelligence agencies.

>>59288337

implying there wont be a big terror attack soon(tm) to cover all of this up and Trump will go on camera and rile up the burgers and everyones going to tear up and think its fine that we improve 'national security' at all costs

theres no way you can win this battle. 1984 is real and its only going to get worse.

>>59288252
No vulnerability was ever found during the audit. Well some minor flaws but nothing making it truly insecure.

>>59288337
Clearly, you are one of the good guys... watch your ass- your kind of well-reasoned logic may one day soon be considered a thought crime.

>>59288361
If they piss off enough enough of those in power we can claw them back down to a degree.

IIRC it was called the Church Committee

We just need them to fuck up badly enough

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>>59288163
I fucked up
It was windows 3.11 (first version that went viral)
And DOS 6.22 (best pre win 95 version)

>>59285979
>>retards don't listen when I tell them Linux has almost no anti exploitation protection

GRSecurity?

Oh wait, you're a Windows babby. Y'know, Windows that's owned worse than a $10 hooker?

>freebsd has access
>Government literally has "ps4 hacks"
>Keeping it all to themselves
I gave up years ago but the end of this makes me upset because they have more access to heavily modified FreeBSD to where we only have kernel access on an ancient firmware

Fucks sake government quit holding out on us

>>59287669
>https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_9535850.html
>Local user-to-root privilege escalation exploit within the Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) daemon. Exploit is available on Linux and PC-BSD platforms with the hald process running.
>PC-BSD

>>59288425
>implying it wasn't a shitty b8

>>59288258
how do we hack god?

>>59288361
implying they even need to bother with that. to a lot of people this is nerd shit nobody really cares about, it won't change anything.

>>59285764
So you're gonna stop using the internet? Or get a new machine ever time you reconnect to it? Is that what you're saying?

>>59287709
>>59286319
>>59286626
Use it and never come back.

>>59288493
you have their tools now. go to work.

>>59288496
Every BSD had HAL. It's outdated on linux tho.

In the need to develop a capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United States government has perfected a technological capability that enables us to monitor the messages that go through the air. (...) Now, that is necessary and important to the United States as we look abroad at enemies or potential enemies. We must know, at the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left such is the capability to monitor everything—telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide.
If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology. (...)
I don't want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.

>>59288504
>implying my reply wasn't meant to bait the baiter

>>59288580
AMERICA FIRST
AMERICA FIRST
AMERICA FIRST

>>59288573
>Implying
I already have them in my asshole for penal code 499c over video games, if I even so much as touch something containing something from them.itll spread my asshole even more

And even then if I did have their tools I know fuck all for what to do with em

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The real question is, why the fuck would the CIA be interested in what some frog poster has on his computer.

>>59286658
Linux users are used to this.

>>59285725
heh nothing to worry about unless you're a criminal

>wrongthink is now criminal
>anime is now criminal
>supporting wrong candidate is now criminal
>internet freedom is now criminal

fug

>>59288613
It's nothing personnel you stupid emoji poster

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>mfw I've been on windows the entire time
>mfw people made fun of me because their OS was supposedly safer
>mfw it was just as unsafe

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So are all the "hack tools" out in the public, or just with wikileaks?

>>59285725
>tfw i only use my own self-written OS
>CLI only, single-core only (no multiprocessing), i spent all my time enabling networking and web browsing
>tfw i'm safe from the gubment

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>>59285725
No shit you fucking retards. Nice job wasting all that time so you could feel important

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https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_14588053.html

>literal anime weeb autists

are /g/entooman actually CIA agents guys?!!

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>>59288694
>So are all the "hack tools" out in the public
No but if you steal their tools, they can't sue you or enforce you to delete it.

Basically the wild west of the internet just with spytools.

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>ever thinking you were safe from intelligence agencies with billions are their disposal used solely to spy on you

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You can't deny anymore.

>>59288794

well that was before Vault7

now you have to add "linux, freeBSD,openBSD, gentoo, libre, GNU/Linux" and all the other shit /g/ tards used to laugh at botnets to the botnet list

its over

>>59288425
>Third party protection suites for kernel
Yeah that is a great idea!!!!
It's OK we ship without KASLR and have no form of CFG for anti ROP, but that's beside the point :)
P.s. go take a look at all the Android 0day, surprisingly most of it works on standard Linux kernels :)

>>59286234
Jokes on them, my PC is passively cooled.

>>59288694

The tools are coming later in the series.

>>59288825
GNU Hurd isn't on the list.
checkmate autists!

https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/files/Rain%20Maker%20v1.0%20User%20Guide.doc

Thank god we're all using MPV/MPC
right?

>>59288878
Then we can see if those shit werks in the first place and fix it if needed. :^)
hald is landed in the ebin long ago.

MicroTik BTFO
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_44957707.html

>nail in the coffin
There was nothing new in this release we didn't already know before. The "nail" was always there. We've been in big brother land forever now, like dating back to 2002-2004 at a minimum. Anyone who posts here and didn't understand that is either dumb as a sack of rocks or willfully ignorant of literally everything ever posted in every OS/security thread on this board.
If you seriously have something important to hide, you shouldn't be connected to the Internet or using an OS you didn't write/edit and compile yourself. If you're like everybody else and you're doing normal banking stuff, not breaking any laws, etc. Most of your enemies can hack, and if they can we have analytics for fraud detection and you can have your story coraborrated with additional conflicting info including Internet access logs and GPS phone location.

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>>59286658
Nothing supports Linux.

>>59285725
and every time they say that lots of people are reading the code. reading it does not help if you dont understand what it does or if you only understand the part that you are coding but not how it works with the other parts.

I wonder if they have any current, devastating, exploits for PPC based macs.

>>59288975
That's a BSD feature.

>>59288309
DAILY FUCKING REMINDER THAT WIKILEAKS IS FUNDED BY PUTIN:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks#Allegations_of_Russian_influence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks#Allegations_of_Russian_influence
etc.

Even though the leaks are real, the help of the Russians is substantial and basically out in the open.

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>>59288835
>Yeah that is a great idea!!!!
>all the Android 0day, surprisingly most of it works on standard Linux kernels :)

Key word here being "standard", not patched with grsecurity.

>It's OK we ship without KASLR and have no form of CFG for anti ROP, but that's beside the point :)

Lol. Are you 12? Even if those easily defeated features were there it wouldn't do any good. Those would still not stop the zero day vulns that are available, would they Cletus?

>:)

Lol.

https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_11629096.html

>FLAAFY
>Totodile
>Lugia
>Snubull
>Steelix

why is cia full of johtofags

>>59289010
http://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/6/14179240/wikileaks-russia-ties

Open your eyes you fucking faggots.

>>59288900
Stallman will save the day!

>>59288966
*most of your enemies can't hack

>>59287844
declassified doesn't necessarily mean publicly available in practice.

>>59288906

Makes me wonder about old /a/ threads where there was always one or two guys who'd insist VLC was the only player worth using, no matter what.

>>59289021
How are you going to defeat control flow guard? It literally breaks ROP lmao

>>59286234
wouldnt someone notice this? it will be audible if the fan speed changes much.

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>>59288667
>when you realize we're all equally fucked

is it too late to switch teams?

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>>59288584

>>59289064
>caring about what weebs have their rig

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>>59289010
>>59289032

>>59289076
there are various techniques to defeat CFG, there was an interesting talk at the CCC last year or the year before that titled control flow bending.
But i'm fairly sure CFG and similiar techniques don't apply to all intrusion techniques.

>>59289076
>How are you going to defeat control flow guard?

https://improsec.com/blog//bypassing-control-flow-guard-in-windows-10

https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-15/materials/us-15-Zhang-Bypass-Control-Flow-Guard-Comprehensively-wp.pdf

>SnowyOwl
>Project Objective:

>Mac OS X capability that injects a pthread into an OpenSSH client process creating a surreptitious sub-channel to the remote computer.

MacOSX BTFO

https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_29229088.html

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>>59285815
you are so handsome

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>>59289177
THAT DOES IT

Who /templeOS/ now?

>>59286672
>selinux
All the Androids are locked down way more professionally than you could ever do with SE yet based on the initial leaks it does absolutely nothing to stop them phones leaking like sieves

>>59285725
32c3 Intel CPU backdoor live hack demonstration, keystrokes logged and sent over wire, wireshark can't detect packet because the Intel backdoor runs above the OS

There are tools to remove Intel backdoor firmware (The backdoor firmware sits outside the BIOS, you need to physically clip onto a 8pin chip on motherboards to download/neutralize/flash the rom, nothing else can touch it).

We are not defeated, we just need to be extremely fucking careful.

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>>59289157

Windows 10 babby DESTROYED!

>>59289177

Mactards GIVEN AIDS!

>>59289177
>Scary


Im gonna do it bros
im just gonna jack off of the internet

>>59289150
Control flow guard is going to stop the vast majority of remote code execs from being possible to weaponize in practice, when combined with ASLR. EMET is insanely hard to bypass, there's a reason pwn2own pays a shitload for EMET bypasses.
>>59289157
Those literally say they have been fixed, how are you going to get around them now?

>>59286233
Are you literally this retarded? CIA is just going to randomly stop looking for exploits after vault7? All these "leaks" are old and likely released by CIA on purpose. Patch them if you want to but the most you'll stop are the opportunists trying to make use of these leaks.

>TFW /G/ MEMED YOU INTO ENDURING LINUX

AT LEAST Y'ALL GOING DOWN WITH ME AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!

>>59289239
>jack off of the internet
[makes fapping noises]

>>59289213
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_9535842.html
LINUX DEAD ON ARRIVAL

>>59286927
Not really. People have been able to do this with computers for ages, and smart TV really is just a computer with a remote+cable line instead of a KB+M+Ethernet Cord. Anything with capability for recording audio and video can have a direct feed placed over I/O. That's what it's there for.

>>59287807
that might refer to Personal Security Product, aka antivirus etc.

>>59289010
>>59289032
>the leaks are real
>b-but Russians did it!

Obviously Assange takes Russian money. It's not exactly a secret when he appears on state-run media, is it?

I don't understand why the source matters if the information is legitimate. The general populace could stand to have a little more healthy skepticism about our intelligence agencies.

>>59287083

/thread

>>59289240
>Those literally say they have been fixed, how are you going to get around them now?

>With that said, Microsoft has done two things to mitigate this technique, first in the upcoming version of Windows 10, Return Flow Guard will be implemented which is seen as a way to stop stack corruptions from giving execution control.
>The other is the introduction of sensitive API’s in the Anniversary edition release of Windows 10, it only protects Microsoft Edge, so would not help in this case, but it does block the RtlCaptureContext API on Microsoft Edge.

So, not fixed but mitigated for the short term. Even then, it's really only for Edge. It's probably already being exploited for another con as we speak. Where's your smileys now you fuck?

>>59289010
>>59289032
It doesn't fucking matter you idiots. It's completely irrelevant at this point.

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>>59289240
>when combined with ASLR. EMET is insanely hard to bypass

Lol, anyone else reading this through tears of laughter? This guy thinks his already owned Windows is more secure with these bolt ons. lmao at you right now.

>>59285725
Is there any information on the exploits they use or the kernels that are vulnerable? At least OpenBSD is safe...

>>59289354
>OpenBSD is safe...

wrong .............

I honestly don't think this is a big deal... unless I'm mistaken, this is just a leak of some CIA hacking tools and zero days, which are more or less a lesser version of what NSA uses, plus an internal Wiki with fun user-submitted things. I haven't seen any novel stuff, just DLL injection or old vulnerabilities (maybe I've missed them, someone please correct me). Of course there are zero days, but I think it's a widely known fact that agencies like these have them.

>>59289204
>All the Androids are locked down way more professionally than you could ever do with SE
Nope. Android is bad at security. Mediaserver alone was a shitfest until Nougat. They use old kernels because Qualcomm won't release drivers that support newer ones. Not to mention any phone that isn't a Nexus/Pixel doesn't receive updates.

I'm not surprised they have tools targetting Debian and FreeBSD since they don't implement basic security measures. I'm more interested in how they pwned CentOS. Maybe some kernel security bug that wasn't identified as such and wasn't backported?

>>59288337
>muh abuse of power
You can protect yourself online much like women are told how to prevent rapes from occuring.
Don't put a target on your back. Don't dress your computer in programs, files, and access and communication logs that fit the description of a criminal. Don't do criminal shit and just blend in with the other billions of devices of IoT and everything is peachy.

The important question is...

>Is VeraCrypt still safe?

>>59289313
It's available for every process, you need the proper cert level for the hypervisor to enforce though
>>59289335
I don't think either are secure, these aren't 'bolt on' features though, they're written by the kernel security team. Do you even know what ASLR is and why it's useful?

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>lincucks shill their nonfunctional os to use botnet
>probably scrutinized more as most pedos and terrorists use ganoo slash lincucks
How does it feel to get btfo by windows, lincucks?

>>59289375
I didn't see it listed on the page. At the very least it is safe from this.

>>59289396
>Do you even know what ASLR is and why it's useful?

No, I have absolutely no idea whatsoever. ASLR has been bypassed, and is bypassed through so many other attacks it ain't funny. It may stop your little sister, or some script kiddie, but c'mon. We're talking zero day exploits by a nation state. Some silly ALSR doesn't even come on their radar.

>>59289398
>implying windows wasn't the first one compromised
A hardened Linux beats a """"""hardened"""""" Windows every day.
Of course you used the words "pedos and terrorists" unironically, so you probably are a tech-illiterate luddite.
Fuck off to /pol/ you nigger.

>>59289393
http://blog.quarkslab.com/security-assessment-of-veracrypt-fixes-and-evolutions-from-truecrypt.html

>>59285725
we fucked

>>59289446
Tell me what it does then, how it works and what is required to bypass it. Do you know what the first thing you would do in a ROP chain is?

>it's all a botnet

He was right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUIcCyPOA30

Should everyone just be working under the assumption that EVERYTHING said, done, typed, communicated, whatever into or near any machine is cracked and recorded?

>>59289480
>Tell me what it does then, how it works and what is required to bypass it.

Uhm no? How about you use google to search for ASLR bypass? I'm not here to regurgitate information you should already know. And btw, I was being facetious -- of course I know what the hell ASLR is. Now ponce off.

>>59289498
All SSL comms are 100% compromised, that's the sole purpose of the NSA data center in Utah

>>59289455
>hardened x beats hardened y despite them both being compromised at this point in time lmao
As long as the problem of compromising either falls in the feasibly solvable by another machine range, it really doesn't matter what you use. What matters is you not putting yourself in a position where you're on the list for getting compromised.

>CIA has all this tech
>pedos, terrorists, criminals, drug dealers etc. are entirely untouched

Really jogs the nog

>>59289498
Welcome to 1984

>>59289516
[Citation Needed]

>>59289507
It would take 3 seconds if you knew, so you pretty obviously don't :)

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>>59289527
I want to go back

>>59289534

Do a google search. Your Windows installation is about as secure as my sieve.

>>59289533
Are you retarded? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

>>59289548
Okay bud I'll keep making 250k a year selling oday to Raytheon while you are making 30k bring a Linux sysadmin lmao

>>59289519
Code execution only works on a software that isn't used anymore. The way how they gave payload is still questionable. So it's literally nothing.

>>59289525
You're so fucking retarded, please end your life.

>>59289480
>>59289534
>>59289567
Not him, but:
http://www.cs.vu.nl//~herbertb/download/papers/anc_ndss17.pdf
https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/02/new-aslr-busting-javascript-is-about-to-make-drive-by-exploits-much-nastier/

ASLR is deprecated.

>>59289525
All of those things fill a role in the profit motive. Don't assume the CIA to be the good guys like they want you to think.

>>59289519
Windows by default is compromised, relying on (((Microsoft))) to fix it. At least with Linux we have GRSecurity and if necessary can modify the source. I don't see the specifics on how they do this, so it may not even be the kernel.

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I give up. Everything I do, I'm screwed. Only way is to go live in the wilderness or something.

>>59286672
>http

>>59289567
>Okay bud I'll keep making 250k a year selling oday to Raytheon

Don't care. It shows your small penis you think you can "pull rank". I probably know more than you and I'm going to graduate med school soon. Have fun selling your zero day while I help humanity.

>>59289498
Cracked but not recorded. If every little thing was recorded they wouldn't even be able to analyze it meaningfully with the current state of machines, plus the vast majority would be useless information from the masses, probably of people sleeping or not being home.
More likely they only record information on devices that get tagged for malicious activity, and even then that's going to be a huge fucking dataset. They probably narrow down most heinous from a list of the heinous and then only seriously monitor that select group and save/record their device activity.

I mean does anyone here actually realize how large a data center would have to be to record the I/O of all the devices connected to the internet? It's not fucking happening. Like i said, at most there's just flags set up that get triggered when certain actions happened, then they start recording you.

>>59289582
Works for local code exec where the target is running your JavaScript, I.e. browser 0day, which is very relevant. It isn't relevant for remote, you need to find another information leak

>>59289525
If you get rid of the crime, there's no jobs left in crime prevention.

>>59289596
Grsecurity implements features that windows has by default lmao

14/88 brothers

day of the rope is inminent

>>59289628
The way it works, at least what we know from PRISM, is that the agency does in fact record EVERYTHING, and then deletes it after 24 hours, and then deletes its metadata after 30 days, assuming no flags are raised

That's how GCHQ works anyway, they just record everything going through the fibre optic cables

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>>59289584
Then it's literally nothing. Time to revolt against the government if you want a real change.

>>59287083
brb rejoining the botnet

>>59287759
faraday cage

>>59285886
what is wrong with the picture you posted?

>>59289653
>implying all ASLR is the same
also
https://pax.grsecurity.net/docs/PaXTeam-H2HC15-RAP-RIP-ROP.pdf
W10 don't have anything like this.

>>59287137
Is that plan9?

>implying any of that has anything to do with an actual botnet
>Implying anyone has ever truly had any freedom on the internet

If there's a means to communicate with others, it's pretty much guaranteed that you're being eavesdropped on. It's human nature to want to know what everyone is whispering about, so do you really expect that the people with the time and resources to develop ways to hear you no matter where you whisper wouldn't actually DO it? They can claim that it's to catch the people whispering about dark, evil, treasonous things and so long as they actually do turn up a criminal or terrorist every now and again, they're going to keep on snooping.

Your freedumbs are the biggest fucking lie and you idiots swallowed it whole. Hell, 5 minutes of googling will turn up all kinds of fucked up, nefarious shit like the NSA intercepting computers and hardware in transit from factories to distributors, or distributors to end consumers, and adding hardware monitoring measures such keyloggers so that even the most hardened, locked down systems are still vulnerable to monitoring. And they don't just do it to murricans. They'll intercept hardware shipping to other countries from inside the USA. I'd be neither shocked nor amazed if other countries did the same.

>>59289687
???? That's literally control flow guard and stack canaries, windows 100% has it
What we really need is immutable page protections and execute only memory protection

Is there really any safe distro anymore then?

Your own compiled Gentoo or Arch?

Is Tails backdoored?

>>59287137
Lube up, we are coming for you, too

>>59289671
>Not knowing how to spell FebRuary

Time to go live the Amish life.

I've got nothing to hide.

>>59289834
>implying they aren't pulling the strings

>>59287325
Doesn't he already preface ever email with a "To the CIA, FBI..." or some shit like that? I don't think as crazy as he is he really believes ganoo is secure.

So how the fuck do CIAcucks live knowing this information?

Are they all mega autists that can cope with the knowledge that they're monitored 24/7?

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1MB, 800x1200px

Where is Jacob Appelbaum when you need him?

>>59287372
This desu

>>59289872
What makes them "cucks"?

>>59289030
What's on that page? I want to avoid visiting wikileaks for now.

>still no backdoor for PGP

Nice

>>59289893
That would be NSA not CIA, nsa makes the good shit desu

>>59289887
It doesn't pay that great considering the work and the higher-ups are all political stooges

>>59287496
>There's no way the government isn't going to subjugate them.
you have that backwards, newfriend

>>59286672
That terminal font looks like ass.

>>59289893
Don't get comfy... the leaks are not complete. This shit today is the tip of the iceberg. I want to see the embedded devices section, which in nearly empty.

>>59287083
I was just thinking of this. Using some obscure OS, connecting to websites via VPN, using other "secure" digital shit... All that does is put a target on your head, correct? You're being recorded and there's nothing you can do about it, but if you don't stand out then there's no reason for them to pay attention to you.

>>59288496
>>59288575
>$CURRENTYEAR
>still using HAL

>>59289926
>doesn't pay that great considering the work
They dont actually find the backdoors, it's a few tech minds doing that and they make bank, probably in the millions. The rest of them get a six figure salary to do analytics using the backdoors and go kill people. That sounds infinitely better than being the loser paying tax money to support that lifestyle.

>>59287902
>Normies will NEVER EVER give a fuck about this.
Tell me about the privacy-related activism /g/ has done.

>>59287803
Unplug the LED cables???

>>59289970
Yes, it's lose lose

>Care about privacy=flagged
>Act like a normie=not flagged but all your shit's getting logged

Probably intentional to be honest

So I guess the solution is to make a facebook account

>>59289984
>Tell me about the privacy-related activism /g/ has done.

/g/ BTFO

>>59287902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUIcCyPOA30

>>59289010
>DAILY FUCKING REMINDER THAT WIKILEAKS IS FUNDED BY PUTIN:
well, no shit

everyone can already figure this out by the fact most of the tweets by their twitter account are explicitly anti-western. also doesn't take a genius to realize that assange wants to destroy the west because his dumb "free love and free information project" made him persona non grata in the western world and he wants to exact revenge.

>>59289889
see >>59287232

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>>59289032
That just isnt true. Or at least there were never any serious indications of it. Its just stupid MSM journalists that repeat it over and over without checking the facts.

>WikiLeaks has published more than 800,000 documents that relate to Russia or Vladimir Putin. Most of those are critical.

And it was explained why RT aired The Julian Assange Show and Pilger interview.

>>59286927
the issues with smart tvs is nothing new
https://cansecwest.com/slides/2013/SmartTV%20Security.pdf

>>59289299
>The general populace could stand to have a little more healthy skepticism about our intelligence agencies.
this isn't skepticism though

the information in the leaks is a vague bullet point that doesn't exactly explain anything, it simply sows paranoia.

snowden handled his leaks in a better manner. what assange is doing is alex-jones conspiracy tier "the Illuminati is turning the BSDs gay with flouride packets! We have the documents!"