/pcbg/ - PC Building General: Emergency Copypasta Edition

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If im considering a g4650 or possibly a i3 6100 build right now, would it make sense to wait for ryzen 3?

>>59243327
Ryzen R3 won't come before second half of 2017 and idk if they will offer a CPU for $60. G4560 is always a good buy imho.

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>>59243045
my 270x crossfires suck. for 1080 gaming, the 480 is still the gpu of choice right?

current specs

poorfag here, whats the best setup for gaming

i5 or i7 for high end gaming?

I need a GPU to pair with an FX 6300 for 1080p.

1050 ti or RX 470?

>>59243045
Alrighty here, tell me if there is anything I could improve, because you dudes know more about PC's than me.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9tqk7h

>>59243453
I know your pain from previous experience, I bought a cheap 290 and it worked a treat, maybe look at a 380/390 if money is an issue

Otherwise get a 1060 or a 480 would do

>>59244085
I'd personally get a better case, if you're forking out a lot of money for a machine don't skimp out on a nice case

>>59244085
1080 ti is coming out soon but they have a Step-Up program that allows you to trade in your 1080 for a ti when it comes out if you're interested.

Pirate Windows 10 to save dollars.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9qhZHN

Help me out with this shit, guys. This will be my first PC ever and I need some advice. Particularly about the monitor. How does it look?

>>59244109
was looking at a 390x or a 480. lets see what ebay has to offer.

>>59244133
Windows 10 sounds good
Don't have the 1080 yet

>>59244128
Already got the case, I think it's pretty nice.

>>59244223
both perform similarly so get the cheapest

>>59244195
21.5" is pretty small for gaming if you want to do that, you want at least 23/24"

>>59244333
How does this look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mWV48d/benq-monitor-gl2460hm

Or should I get this one?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yjrG3C/asus-monitor-vs248hp

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fW6cVY

I don't have a strict budget, around 1200-1300 before peripherals. This would be for gaming at 60 fps but also going a bit overkill for fun and to last a few years.

Any noticeable improvements I could make without adding more than 75-100 dollars more?

>>59244598
Why aren't you getting a Kaby Lake CPU and Z270 mobo? Also,you don't necessarily need the black version of the WD drive. I would personally get a Toshiba drive. You are best off getting the Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD too.

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>>59244250
well for the same price as a 390x i got this

>>59244659
Great advice, thanks senpai

>>59244767
No problem, ask away if you have any more questions.

Sorry I know this question is lame but thought maybe making this its own thread seemed lamer.

I found a computer on IBuyPower.com and it seemed fairly close to the 1,150 dollar setup that was on http://www.logicalincrements.com/

Was wondering why that wouldn't be a smart idea? Should I just wait for those motherboards to come back in stock? I was thinking of buying a built computer tonight but everywhere had these suggested motherboards sold out.

I can copypaste my build if anyone cares. Also will listen if there is a more reputable computer sales company because I have a feeling like this place is considered 'Reddit' or some shit.

In Australia a build with a i5 6600K and R7 1700 is the same price (Z270 board is more expensive and need to add cost if cooler). What is the better value proposition for a general mixed use case (work tasks, gaming)?

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>>59243045
Reminder that Cannonlake and coffeelake come out in 1-2 years so JUST WAIT

>>59245011
Yeah but I'm building my computer this year. And why buy an Intel chipset when you could just get Ryzen 5 or 3?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yKmJPs

anything else? i added a network card because there is no way for me to connect to my trouter through ethernet

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>>59245037
I'm just fucking around, trying to see how many people I can piss off

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Finally got my first PC up and running after ~5 hours of building coupled with months of research/asking retarded questions on /pcbg/. Thanks for all the help, family.

Found a what sounds a like a good deal form gumtree. AMD 6300 with mobo 2x4gb ram with a t40 for $175 AU
Should I jump on that?

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I've had an i5 4670 (non-K version) for 4 years now, and was thinking of getting a r7 1700

mainly because I've noticed CPU bottlenecks in games, I can't overclock it, the video rendering performance sucks, and QSV records lossy looking video, so getting a cpu with 8 cores and 16 threads would allow me to record/stream in x264, which looks better than what QSV encodes

will game performance be adversely affected, or will it be pretty much the same?

>>59246075
u doin gods work dog

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LTb9XH
Anything inherently wrong with it? Anything that is overkill besides the CPU? My budget can go a couple hundred higher, playin vidya (all sorts) and streaming

>>59247641
Looks fine to me, 750w is a lot but thats up to you.

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>>59243045
>Building
You're merely ASSEMBLING prebuilt components, friend-o :)

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>>59247751
>You're merely ASSEMBLING prebuilt components
It's a lot of fun non the less, you should give it a try, friend-o :)

can someone explain to me what all the ryzen fuss is about?

sure its all new and not optimized, the win7 thing etc

but the i5 7600k is like $140 cheaper than the 1700

why would you ever want the ryzen? if youre retarded enough to spend loads of money on the 1800x why not just buy the i7 7700k for $215 less?

>>59247828
Ryzen is great for grown-ups who don't play video games.

>>59244048
470 is way better than 1050ti

>>59247751
you could say the same thing about building a house or a guitar or almost anything
be gone with your sophistry

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>>59243045
planing on purchasing another 390x and 4k monitor since 390x realy cheap and almost same as rx 480

>>59247828
5-10% of an 4c i7 for gameing with 8c16t.

What Intel users need to ask themselves is what happens when they increase clockspeed by 20% or so in the ryzen 4c...

Finally a new /pcbg/. Take a look at the new build. Dubs decides her name Ill roll first for Princess Elsa. Comments and criticisms welcome
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gh24jc

rate my ebic gaming build guys
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kmpJPs

No but really. Just trying set up something cheap as fuck to sit up on a shelf in my garage plugged into my 72" 1080p TV for streaming car videos/youtube how-tos when im working on shit/streaming music and also just storage of random movies and shit - maybe porn, who knows. All media shit. No gaymes or demanding productive shit.

I'm buying it and you can't stop me.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06X3W9NGG/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=B06X3W9NGG&linkCode=as2&tag=thedaionl-21

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Jpz9W

Can I make it better? Games, web dev, game dev, and VM... I am well over my budget, but I am not sorry lol Tho wondering if I could make it better

Currently sitting on an old gtx 570. Would the gtx 1050ti be an improvement?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gpHq9W
Bow down before me

>>59250063
Shit/10. Shit psu, no graphics card, shit 4GB RAM.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4tvCKZ Fixed it for you.
>>59249231
Shit GPU, overpriced RAM, shit white case, shit fans, shit mouse and keyboard. Also what the fuck are you doing with 2 CPU coolers?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vdKbr7 Fixed most of it.

I don't want to go over 600 euro with my PC but I'm not sure which would be better. i5 7500 with gtx 1050ti or and i3 6100 with gtx 1060 3gb, maybe 6gb?

I know they're not 144hz/4K meme monitors, I bought two Dell Ultrasharp U2515Hs and they're the most beautiful monitors I've ever used.

>>59251158
Why on earth would anynone buy a 1050ti when the 470 is only like 30 bucks more?
The 470 nitro+ cucks the living shit out of the 1050ti

>>59251539
Which country?
There is no reason to buy the 6100 nor the 1060 3gb.

>>59251539
M8 go with used stuff rather than buying new. 600 bucks can get you a 4k capable machine with used parts.

>>59252366
Austria.

>>59251158
>Would the gtx 1050ti be an improvement?
Yes but a 1060 would be better, it depends on how much you're willing to spend and your current setup.

>>59252491
I'm the same guy as >>59251539 The problem I'm having is either get the better graphics card with a weaker processor or a better processor with a weaker graphics card since those two parts are really the only ones where the price differs much. The other stuff, psu ram etc I can't cheap out on.

Around what time in Q2 will Ryzen 5 be released?

Trying to decide between a corsair cx550m or seasonic m12ii 620w psu.
Reviews say the seasonic is quieter and more reliable, but heard the circuitry design is outdated and isn't compatible with power saving modes in Haswell onwards. Does that make a difference?
The cx550m is a newer design thats haswell compatible, but doesn't have the track record seasonic has.
Any suggestions on which one to pick?

>>59252569
Whats your old setup with the gtx 570?

Any good case recommendations? I currently have a Fractal R4 but there are some annoying rattles every now and then so for my new build I'm just gonna get something else rather than reuse. Like $150 max.

>>59253516
Should be end of May - beginning of June.

>>59253902
>tfw will most likely be building my PC in May
Should I just pull the trigger on an intel CPU and mobo?

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>>59253797
Some 4 or 5 year old pre built toaster which in the beginning had a 550ti. Apart from gpc and cpu I'd go with a seasonic 520 psu, 2x4gb ballistix ram, corsair case and some 50 euro msi mobo.

>>59254005
Go with the 7500, you could try selling your old hardware if you're not too attach to it to get a better gpu. You could also consider an RX470.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WVwKM8

How is this? Have already started buying the smaller parts but will most likely be buying the GPU, CPU, mobo, PSU, and monitor together.

>>59254169
Looks good, you could find a mobo with integrated wifi that be cheaper then buying separately

1080p ultrawide gaming, I don't necessarily mind turning down settings a little bit if I have too.
Anything better I can get for the same price?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9rc7d6

>>59254242
Sorry for the stupid question, but where is that option? I can't find that filter option on pcpartpicker.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GVgHQV

Trying to throw together a media server/htpc/emulator machine. Anyway I can shave off any dollars?

disclaimer: this would be my first build

why would anyone build a gaming pc

there are 0 good games out right now

ZERO

>>59254361
It's under "Wireless Networking" on the left side.

>>59254545
you don't exactly have mass storage that I would expect out of an htpc/media server
personally if you were going for 4k I'd get an rx 460
I know my recommendations would make the rig more expensive but those are my recommendations

>>59254961
I forgot to mention I already have some hdds, so i left them off the list. I don't have a 4K TV so that's not a worry of mine, but duly noted

>>59255023
good deal. It looks pretty good then.

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Without stirring up shitposting, would it be a better buy if I went with a 7700k + mobo that supports oc'ing or a 1700 + b350? Largely going to be playing 1440p gaming and that's it. I *might* do simple 3d rendering in the future, but that's a slim chance.
I'm super on the fence because of the uncertainty of unstable new architecture and the fact that most b350 boards are sold out and I need this build by the end of next week.

>>59254936
Most B-series mobos don't have onboard wifi, which would force me to get a Z-series one. This would basically force me to get a heatsink, a K-series intel CPU, AND a Z-series mobo, which is ultimately much more expensive than my original build.

>>59254260
I have heard EVGA Nex-series PSUs aren't very good. Get the G2.

>>59255066
Are you on a budget? Because if not I would suggest the R7. If you are though, just get the cheapest of the two because there isn't that big of a gaming difference.

>>59255109
thanks friend

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FUCKING SHIP MY MOTHERBOARD ALREADY GODDAMN IT THE CPU SHIPPED THREE DAYS AGO I CAN'T DO SHIT WITH JUST THAT HOLY FUCK AMAZON

>>59255082
In my experience, externals are way better at signal strength and speed. The actually good external wifi dongles usually run you about 30-40 bucks.

>>59255110
Why the R7 over intel, specifically? Budget wouldn't be a big problem as the price difference between the two considering boards and heatsinks wouldn't be more than 50 burgers.

>>59255180
R7 has preformed considerably better than intel in production benchmarks and such. The difference is negligible in vidya but that's just my opinion. If you can, get ryzen since its cheaper and more or less has the same performance as intel.

>>59255180
That's what I figured and why I was planning on getting an external. How does this one look?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTdqqs/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di

>>59255261
That's what I've seen too. On a related note, its it correct that the r7 series doesn't have any sort of integrated graphics?

>>59255319
I like the added bluetooth functionality but have always used usb sticks with an extension to place the stick itself in an open area to get a good signal. If you do decide to go with that one, I would just recommend to not cramp the antennas between a wall and your pc.

Should I buy a rx 480 now or wait for vega ?
Or should I spend more and buy a 1070 ?

>>59255459
I haven't heard anything about that sorry, so I can't help you. If it doesn't say anything about it on the CPU then I would assume not though.

>>59255140
I bought parts from Newegg, NCIX, B&H, and Outlet PC on Tuesday and they all came by Friday.

>>59255459
I will keep that in mind, thank you.

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ok /pcbg/, help me out.

i just came home yesterday after a 2 month work trip and my (old as fuck) pc died on me.

is this setup alright to run loonix for Database and Dev stuff in a VM while having a win 10 main partition for (light) gaymen and Visual Studio?

any improvements?

>>59251458
Youre an idiot

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BMMrLD
Any last tweaks before I start purchasing?

>>59256028
Why do you have 2 cpu coolers? Also don't cheap out on the psu, get something gold certified.

Is a four core CPU a must nowadays for general gaming? Debating i3 vs waiting for lower cost Ryzen

>>59256119
Ones a gpu cooler

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mjdwpb
looking for some improvements on my g4560 budget build. i'd like it to be cheaper (450-500) but if this is as optimal as i can get then it'll do. although i'm wondering if the rx470 is ideal for this build, or if i should downgrade to a GTX1050Ti

>>59256749
Looks good

Any good websites for buying used and recycled components on the cheap apart from ebay and amazon? Looking to make a seedbox, most people are asking $100+ for their shitty old prebuilts on local ads and my local recycling center is asking $50+ for refurbished early 2000's computers with IDE interfaces last time i was there, might go take a look see if i can buy individual components for cheap.

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My budget is around 1200 dollars and it's for gaming in general. I don't have a case added because 1) I don't know which one to get and 2) I still have a case that should work if I gut it of the parts I'm replacing. Already have Windows 7 on another HDD and a 650w PSU from the old computer case. I'd like some critique if I'm fucking something entirely up or if you have a good idea for a nice case or what.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Hfjhq

>>59257398
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FkLB9W

Do you really need the optical drive? If you're only running at 1080p then ignore the 1080 and stick with the 1070 unless you planning on upping to 1440p+ later.

>>59257398
Get a Z270 chipset mobo. Also, don't cheap out on your heatsink. The 212 Evo or Cryorig H7 are pretty good, but don't spend over $30 on one. I would also reccomend a larger SSD (240-250 GB is ideal). As for your RAM, if you can afford it, get 3000hz RAM. Finally, it depends on your old case if you want to get a new one or not. How large was your old computer? How much are you willing to spend on a new case if you decide to get one? As it stands you are at ~$900 so you can spend the extra $200 or so on a good SSD, some better frequency RAM, and a new case if you want.

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>>59257506
I like listening to my CDs.
>>59257516
Thank you for the advice, upgraded the RAM and mobo. As for my case, it was pic related, an Antec 900 mid-tower. I'd be fine spending around a hundred dollars, maybe 130 if it had extra heatsinks.

What subreddit do you guys go to?

I have a gtx 760
am I cool?

>>59257715
You should be fine with that case then, but if you want a new one there are plenty to choose from. I personally like the NZXT S340, the Corsair 200R, the Fractal Design Define R5, the Phanteks Enthoo Pro, and Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S. All of those are great cases for reasonable prices.

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>>59257762

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B8GDKZ

>>59255571
well whoop de fucking do for you fagtron
I've been waiting three days for this shit to just ship

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/79NF3F
USA, Hawaii
Gaming, Workstation

Worried about the motherboard, am I bottle-necking myself with a shit board? I just want something that can OC, is preferably all black, with Wifi.

im also going to get a 1080 Ti so using the 1080 as a placeholder on partspicker.

>Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor

>Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

>Asus STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

>Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory

>PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal hard drive

>MSI Radeon RX 480 8GB GAMING X Video Card

>Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case

>Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

>Cooler Master SickleFlow (Blue) 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan

>NZXT SENTRY 3 Fan Controller

I'm brand new to this and this is what I'm thinking. Any critiques/recommendations would be appreciated.

I might build a media pc using a Ryzen amd apu t.bh

>>59257937

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mjp4jc

Here's a direct link to the list.

>Display driver amdkmdap stopped responding and has successfully recovered.
I'm sick of this shit AMD reeeeee

>>59257937
>>59257984
Why do you want led ram when regular ram is less expensive? Also, why are you getting red ram and a blue case?
Why are you spending that much on a mobo but only that much on a gpu?
5 dollars isn't that big of a deal on this much of a budget but you don't need to buy paste, it comes pre-applied.
You should get at least a 550w gold psu.
The case also looks like hot garbage.

>>59257892
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Knp4jc

Just finalized it I think.

>>59251458
your fixed still doesnt include the gpu that you said i needed. Dumb cunt doubled the price by almost 50% too. All it needs to do is watch fucking youtube videos and stream 720p/1080p car shows and store random movies and shit and I'm gonna run Linux Mint on it. 8gb ram I know is completely unnecessary. autist

>>59258065

Found cheaper RAM. wasn't thinking when I clicked color.

Thank you for the advice on the paste.

What exactly is the issue between the mobo and gpu? Can you please walk me through it?

Changed the power supply.

And I found a case that looks nicer because on second thought that case was indeed trash.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JMFrLD

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If I don't give a shit about 4k but I want a good gaming monitor, which one sticks out for a good price? $200 or under.

>>59258065
>>59258251
do either of you read johnnyguru?

>>59258278

no.

>>59258251
>What exactly is the issue between the mobo and gpu?
There isn't one, but it just seems strange to put that much money into a mobo and not a gpu. Are you looking to overclock the cpu for other reasons besides gaming?

>>59258278
never heard of it

>>59258339

No. I just didn't see the need to go for an i7 right off the bat. And I'm not gonna be doing anything crazy over the top with this thing either, mostly just looking for something that can run my games at a prettier resolution.

>>59258391
Are there certain features of that motherboard that appeal to you or is it just for overclocking? There are cheaper ones that accomplish just that.

>>59258449

Not really. do you have any suggestions for different models?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B8GDKZ
Nobody ever comments on my build

>>59258488
msi z170a gaming pro carbon is cheaper and offers higher clock speeds to choose from for ram

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usa. trying to build my first small time gaming pc. mini itx build, h110i pro ac board, intel core i3, 500w power supply. just on more thing: Any word on which graphics card i should get?

>>59258666
No satan there is no word on that

>>59258631

Thanks.

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I can't decide and there are no reviews of the DUKE. On the one hand it's cheaper than my second choice and higher base clock and OC room but some people tell me that triple fans = loud as fuck and I just spent a bunch of effort making my case inaudible at idle.

>>59258666
Why would you self harm by buying Thermaltake?

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>>59258154
pretty please senpai? ;3

>>59259242
Get higher freq ram

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>>59243045
>tfw bought components on Black Friday and assembled a nice machine for school, work, and gaymes
>a month after building it, it won't boot anymore. No POST or anything
>RMA PSU, while waiting for replacement (that took 6 weeks to receive) find that motherboard is dead too
>RMA motherboard, waiting for it to be returned to me on Wednesday
>worried other parts are no good either with no way to test until motherboard returns
>1 month of use, almost 3 months of disuse
>components steadily becoming outdated with nothing to show for it

This is truly suffering. Machine parts list:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CgffGf

Is it a good build at least?

>>59258993
>Meet the Duke. A new card that will probably become an exclusive for Asian (Chinese?) market. This is probably a new implementation of Tri-Frozr cooler, a small redesign before we see more beefier cooler for GP102-based Lightning.

This card actually uses the same PCB as GAMING X. Meanwhile, fans are definitely smaller, and the whole cooler is slightly longer than the board itself. Some parts of this card are covered by carbon fiber, including the full cover backplate.

Who knows senpai

>>59260277
Those corsair psu seem to have a lot of problems

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>>59258993
From all review the Gaming is pretty quiet, so if it's important to you, $40 isn't much to spend to guarantee silence.

From the few seconds of hearsay, anecdotally tech forum speak I saw, the card may be louder given it was designed for certain asian markets, which don't care as much about noise as they do temps.

Again, literally second hand anecdotes, but it's all I saw.

>>59260360
I'm hoping the one I updated my build guide with is better than the original one I had: CX650m, "https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139148&cm_re=cx650m-_-17-139-148-_-Product."

After about 4 weeks of being told my RMA would take an additional week to process, I asked Corsair if they could send me a different but comparable product to expedite the process, hence the new PSU.

I doubt I'll be getting Corsair PSUs in the future.

>>59260288
How do you determine fan size?
Should I worry about sag with cooler size?

>>59260364
Was originally going to get a 1070 but managed to sell my 970 for $200 so the 1080 became just within budget. Would probably have to sacrifice power in another part for the GAMING

>>59260492
Can't you just work another couple hours at your job to save for it? Even if you're a NEET $40 can't be that hard to come up with.

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Moving a SSD and HDD into a new build shortly. What do I need to do to ensure they work with the new computer? I know they can't just be plugged in, and I have a new OEM copy of Windows, but I'm not sure beyond that.

I'm pretty sure the boot drive just gets deleted and fresh installed when you put the copy of Windows on, but I'm not sure, and I'm really not sure what happens to the HDD.

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>>59261543

>>59261547
> I know they can't just be plugged in
They kinda can be. Every PC built now will have SATA data/power.

> have a new OEM copy of Windows
No clue how that will be annoying these days.

> I'm pretty sure the boot drive just gets deleted and fresh installed when you put the copy of Windows on
Not really. I mean, you can tell it to delete the whole drive, but... not really.

What used to happen was that Windows loved to overwrite the MBR on a MSDOS type boot, even when you had Linux or another Windows, but that's probably not a concern at this point either if you use a new Windows and UEFI boot.

Sorry for that. Hit control v without paying attention

>>59261547
If the HDD only has data on it, i don't see why there would be an issue, I've been swaping hdds in my rig for the last 2 years without issue. Just pop that bitch in there, but only AFTER you installed windows on your ssd, just incase.

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>>59261609
>>59261659
I think I fucked up my explanation. Both of them already have data on them and are used in this current computer.

Unless I'm just reading it wrong and it's mostly plug and play. I know the copy of Windows is generally tied to the motherboard, so surely the SSD at least requires reformatting, something?

Sorry, am pleb.

>>59261681
Even if you reinstall Windows, that generally does NOT require reformatting.

You can install over the existing system partition if there is still enough space, it'll generally just throw everything Windows related into a folder "Windows.old" on that drive (not just the old "Windows" folders but also program files, user etc), then install the new OS folders.

Yea, it's more stupid than what you'd get on most Linux', but nothing necessarily destructive.

Try *not* to let some OEM recovery partition or disk do its thing though, or anything automatic. Select partitions on your own, or maybe it WILL automatically wreck shit.

>>59258526
Seems fine. I myself just decided on a very comparable upgrade after 9 years on my old machine.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/td8wpb
(I'm in Europe so the exact prices on that list mean not much to me, though.)

I'll reuse parts, presumably among other things my old Antec case. Though I also ordered both a Fractal Design Define R5 & Phanteks Enthoo Pro M to see if I'll switch to either. They'll otherwise take the older parts.

>>59260599
The real question is performance vs silence.

Is this a retarded idea?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak-Z7T1kOoI

>>59262133
As good a hobby as any, I guess...?

This has obviously many risks, so better don't do it if that's your only budget for a computer in the near future.

>>59262029
Every single 1080 is within 5% of each other. The absolute best you're getting is the higher end chips that are binned, and that's not even guaranteed.

Buying 1080s buy performance numbers over temps/noise/aesthetics is a game you're going to lose this generation

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vyxQgL

Thoughts? In my first semester at college and have found i have more free time than I thought and want to do more gayming and also my laptop is kinda shit and is shit at even doing my most basic CAD assignments.

I just wanna be able to play most newer games on medium-high graphics with good fps and be able to do simple renders in AutoCAD in less than a half hour.

>>59262467
z170 mobo is for overclocking, change for something else if you aren't planning to oc, preferably a 200 series mobo, go with 2133/2400 ram(whatevers cheaper), go with another psu that isn't corsair, stock cpu cooler will be more then enough if you aren't overclocking.

>>59262400
Is there somewhere I can read more about this?

Also knowledgeable anon do you know when/what they're going to replace the free game offers with?

>>59262549
how's this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bkwnCy

>>59262598
Better, the mobo's bios may need updating to use g4560(go with 200 series for hassle free install), don't know about thermaltake psu quality, may want to look up reviews, also 700w is overkill.

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Media server build.

r8 pls

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/94BW6X

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hYQnCy

How's this for Overwatch, League, Hearthstone, Doom, Division, GTA V.

>>59262780
Why do you have two SSDs
Why are you buying a $300 1060

You can save $100 dropping the 850 evo for a 1TB WD Blue and add even less than half of that to get a 1070 instead of one of the most insanely expensive 1060 models

>>59262780
Very similar to the PC I'm building right now. You honestly should get a cheaper mobo, paying $130 for a B250 chipset one is overpaying. You also don't need 3000hz RAM. 2400 should be fine but you can get 2133 if you want to shave down the overall price of your build. I would honestly recommend an HDD over two SSDs though, its more cost-efficent. Paying $300 for a 1060 6GB is fucking stupid though. Just get an MSI or Gigabyte model if you are getting a 1060, though from the results I've seen and research I've done I would recommend a 480 8GB over a 1060 6GB. Doom preforms better on a RX 480 anyways. You don't need 650W for your PSU either. ~500W should be fine.

>>59262780
Overpriced gaymur mobo, but thats up to you. Your mobo will not use up the 3000mhz ram, go with 2400mhz, go with a supernova g2 or g3 550w.

What is the optimal size for a hard drive?

do I go gtx 1080 ti/xeon 1241v3 or gtx 1080/ryzen 1700/1600 (when that comes out)

>>59262844
>>59262838
>>59262833
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jCCcFd

ok how's this

>>59262997
Better

>>59262997
I would stay away from Seagate, they have terrible failure rates on their HDDs. You can get a cheaper SSD if you want but that's up to you. Looks much better though.

Why the hell are PSU sleeved cables so damn expensive?

>>59263101

Because making them is time consuming hand work.

When should I use nvme or m.2 SSD's vs a regular 2.5 inch?

>>59263121

Not 140 dollars worth of time.

>>59263248

Yeah, actually.

>>59263160
If your MOBO supports it and if you're going compact

It's very useful to get a 250GB drive that doesn't need any extra cable management and is just a screw away from being popped out

Only downside is that they can get a bit hotter than a standard SSD. Also IMO NVME speeds are a meme as nothing besides extremely high-level rendering/editing takes use of them, I went with a SATA m.2 and it's fast enough without being $150+

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>>59243045
>got a noctua nhd-15 and gtx 1080 FTW hybrid
feels good nigga, I love the LEDs on the 1080 and how huge the nhd-15 is. Extremely quiet, and I love hearing the churning of the liquid every now and then. I knew the nhd-15 was gonna be big, but not that big. fit perfectly, too

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How do you decide what stuff goes on what drive?
On my desktop it's easy because my games take up about as much space as the rest of my stuff so I split it like that
But in my laptop I don't have huge game data, just random media I access every now and then, nothing I need high speeds for but nothing I want to lose either
I have an SM951 NVME SSD and a HDD-speed SD card, both with the same 128GB capacity

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kFMdf8
USA

am I falling for the RAM meme?

also going to switch to a 1080 Ti on release.

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>>59263389
>NINE

>>59263389

What in the name of fuck are you planning to do with all that RAM?

>>59263318

it's a new build, I already have the GPU and PSU and are using them in my current rig after my 760 died two weeks ago. I know I probably should have gone with another manufacturer for GPU but I didn't do the research, saw EVGA as the cheapest option (card was on sale) so that's all on me.

I was wondering for the SSD since both the 2.5 inch Crucial MX300 525GB and the m.2 version are pretty much the same price. Would there be any speed difference between them?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M3BHQV

>>59260277
Any other feedback about this, at least anything about the build?

>>59263460
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kFMdf8
16GB is fine, considering video cards are designed to hold most of the information.

>>59263460
Standard m.2 aren't much, or aren't faster than a 2.5" SSD at all, but there's a convenience factor to it. However, you'll have to remember to configure your MOBO if you want it as a boot drive. Like I said, it's mostly convenience, and might as well use the slot if your MOBO has one.

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Ncix haven't shipped my x370 mobo yet because it was back ordered but now it's in stock and no sign of tracking....and i might get all the other stuff tomorrow tho but no mobo

FUCK

>>59263460
The difference comes from NVME, not SATA 2.5" to SATA M2
You need to be looking at something like a 950 or 960 pro if you're looking at M2
If not, stick with SATA and in my opinion 2.5" SATA
2.5" drives often have better failsafes, monitoring, and of course the giant rectangular heatsink surrounding it that M2 drives do not have

>>59263485
>>59263512

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XVN9BP

I switched it to the 2.5 then, thanks.

Any other comments on the build? I have a 3tb HDD I'll be moving over from my current computer as well.

>>59263417
So I am falling for the fan jew right?
Honestly, I have no idea what the fuck I am doing with fans, I'm just piecing it all together, was going to replace case fans, have fans for the radiator.

>>59263441
some editing, mostly gaming, workstation shit.

>>59263568
IF you're willing to drop another 20-30, you could go for 8GBx2 of DDR4 at 3000mhz instead.

The price differences between slower RAM and faster RAM are so small it makes me regret getting 8GB of 2400 when 3000mhz is only 20% more expensive.

>>59263615
I thought you were trolling desu
You can save about tree fiddy and not lose any performance by switching to some non-retard parts (you could even keep your dumb case)

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>>59263664

Care to point me into the retarded points?

for reference I literally have around 2k ish to throw around give or take.

>>59263615
Anon, Corsair makes loud AF sub-200mm fans.
Cooler Master or Xigmatek, sub 19dBa

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>>59263693
Thank you for the advice, ill switch them out to some CM fans. Just want to have quiet, quality all black fans.

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>>59263692
The H100i sucks. I know your dumb tempered glass means you're enslaved to aesthetic but at least look at a Kraken water cooler, they look cooler and perform MUCH better
half the ram, or at least just get 3000mhz for $100 pairs of sticks. Corsair is overpriced, almost all ram "brands" come from the same place
You could split that SSD up into a 512Gb SSD and a 1TB HDD and save $100
Founder edition cards are dumb and that 1080 is dumb, just wait for non-reference 1080ti's, DEFINITELY don't buy a 1080 just to upgrade to a 1080ti in a month
Get a 650w 80+ gold power supply, Seasonic is one of the best brands there is, don't spend over $100
The fans are obviously dumb, don't forget the case does come with fans. The point of aftermarket fans is generally just silence and 9 fans defeats the purpose of that. Get a single 2-pack or 3 fans and with the watercoolers fans added I bet you'll have filled up every fan slot in your case

>>59263704
http://www.outletpc.com/ww4737-r4-s4s-10ak-gp-140-si2-140mm-case-fan-black.html

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>>59263767
CPU cooler:
I'm looking into the NZXT coolers, thanks.
Ram:
Should I just run the 16 gigs of what I have? Again slave to the aesthetics so kinda want something black and nice, whilst being DDR4-3000+
HDD:
I wanted to have the 1TB SSD then later add another physical drive to store porn, other things.
GPU:
I plan on getting a 1080 Ti Reference card, was using that card as a placeholder to just configure things.
PSU:
I really don't want a housefire, should I really run that low of wattage? I want room for growth.
Fans:
>>59263831
will use 120/140 variants of this. Now with that in mind, should I be getting static pressure intense fans for use with the radi?

thanks for helping me be less of a faggot.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YsgxNN

>>59263932
>buying outdated hardware
Not surprising for a frogposter i guess

GTX 1060 or rx480 ? I have a 1080p/60hz monitor with 4690k, currently on GTX 760

>>59264052
whatever is cheaper, both have the upper hand in certain games but are even for the most part

>>59263848
You want higher pressure for radiator exhaust fans. It helps get the air through the vanes.

19 dBa is the max you want to go.

>>59264089
XFX GTR 480 is cheaper than MSI Gaming X 1060 here

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>>59243045
Can someone tell me why my RX480 GPU load keeps jumping down to 0%?
I don't notice it in games, their frame rate is fine and has no stutter. I just find it weird.

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>>59264543
I dunno but here is mine with WoW idling in the background...

What should be done to improve it?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/DCVHQV

>>59264928
I might be wrong here but I really don't think you need a 600W PSU for that build, you could save more by going with something smaller.

>>59264988
This is true. However, I'd say stick with the 600 or even go 650. That will give you room to grow into your PC. Unless this thing will only be used as a media server or something.

>>59243045
Hey guys my PSU is dying on me I need a new one, my current one is a Corsair CX750 80+ bronze. Here's the model No. CP-9020015

my other parts include a i7 4790K CPU, an EVGA GTX 1080 and 4 sticks of 4GB RAM

What should i upgrade next?

i currently have this

CPU: AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz 8-Core
CPU Cooler, Noctua NH-U14S CPU Cooler
Thermal Compound: Noctua NT-H1 3.5G
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 ATX
Memory: Kingston Blu Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1866 MHz
Storage1 Samsung 850 EVO Series 250GB SSD
Storage2: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM
Video Card: GeForce GTX 970 GALAX 4GB OCed Edition
Case: NZXT H440 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair 750W RM
Operating System: Windows 10
Case Fans: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 120mm
Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard: IBM Model M / ANNE PRO / Many other
Headphones: Logitech G933
Monitor 1: AOC G2460PG 144hz (G-Sync)
Monitor 2: AOC G2460P 144hz
Monitor 3 BenQ XL2411T 144hz
Monitor Stand: MS300

>>59243045
>People tell me not to get an RX480
>Get an XFX one anyway
>Way better than I could have hoped for
>People tell me not to get Ryzen
>Performs better than I thought it would
I am never listening to anyone again.

>>59263848
Your build probably pulls maybe 300w max desu senpai
If you "grow" into a 300w Titan XP and a 220w 9350 you'd still be fine
If you "grow" into an SLI setup then you're fucking retarded

>>59251083
If you value gaming/work performance ditch the ssd and get better cpu or gpu

So, does this look good for a 630 euro PC? Does the mobo matter or is a cheap one good enough, should be compatible with the other parts.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/4d4k7h

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zKCcFd

for 1080p 60hz gaming and occasional photo editing. What could I improve?

also "Some Intel Z170 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Kaby Lake-S CPUs." should I worry about this? I mean you can't update BIOS without a CPU right, so that would mean I'm boned if I don't have another 1151 CPU (which I don't)?

I'll buy a 1060 6gb instead a of a 480 8gb and there ain't shit you can do.

Guys I don't know much about PCs anyone can help me choosing the parts?
What I want to do with the PC
Programming / video encoding / after effects
Gaming
Which games?
Space Engine, Kerbal Space, Kingdom Come : Deliverance.
OS :
Linux (except for games, so I'll dual boot).
I also run Bitcoin / OpenBazaar nodes.
Halp please. Tried reading the guide, so many options.

>>59266331
Do it I guess, the 1060 is better at the moment. Not a lot though. And it will age worse. But when 1060 enters "literally unplayable" state in some years, the 480 won't be doing much better, so.

Need a new HD in 6-8TB range, will mostly be using it for media storage. Happy to pay up to about £300 but could go slightly over. Thinking of getting a Toshiba X300 6TB for ~£180. Any alternatives to consider or steer clear of?

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So the H7 I got on discount for this build isn't cutting it, as seen in the pic.

Which HSF should I replace it with? I was thinking to a water cooler to cover up the top of the case.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/kQKk7h

>>59266682

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/DBzCKZ

>>59257937
No reason to buy that i5.
The fx-8350 performs just as well in games as this piece of crap. Just to Show how stupid it is to let Intel jew you out of you shekels like that.

>>59266923
>fx8350
Pure autism, fuck off.

Hello, I was recently gifted a used fx 8350, so I wanted to swap out my phenom ii 955 for it (motherboard is ASRock 880GMH/U3S3).

The pc didn't boot when I did that though, it works fine now that I swapped the old cpu back in. Do I need to update my BIOS or something? I'm pretty sure my motherboard supports that cpu. Or is the cpu dead?

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Is a 1080 gtx in SLI overkill or is it worth it? Or wait till next week for the release of the 1080 TI?

>>59266326
ya realised I was boned so I changed to z270.
would 550W be enough? I'll probably OC it a bit

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>>59266937
Yeah...
Dont shill for Intel that hard faggot.
If a CPU is shit dont go in full damage control

>>59267045
might as well just get the 1080ti instead.

A single card solution will work with less issues than SLI/Xfire

is CAS latency something you should care about in ram?

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Should I wait weeks for G.Skill Trident Z 32GB (2x16GB) 3200 mhz at $340 or just buy the Corsair Vengence equivalent at $400?

I'm pretty set on 32GB now, and i'll upgrade to 64GB later. Is it a meme or does Chrome really chew up RAM?

Third option is the 3000mhz Corsair Vengence at $340. Is there a big performance difference bewteen 3200mhz and 3000mhz?

>>59267259
I wonder about this also.
There are rams with the same clock, Gb, brand and ddr, and the price varies a lot depending on that

>>59267286
Yeh, chrome really does chew ram a fucking lot. But 32 GB to browse using chrome?

Is it worth going SandyBridge-E? Still relevant?

I can get a 3930k for $100.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wxsrLD
budget is 700 but I would really like to lower it down, need a monitor too so. For gaming.

>>59267286
Holyfuck these ram prices, are they USD? I got the same Gskill kit (16-16-16-36 3200mhz) last week for $185. Now it's $285!? Da Fuq!?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232196

When I purchased the nonsale price was $220, now I see the nonsale price is $310!?!

>>59267332
i really like that

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>>59267326
Sandybridge-E is a still pretty good. The hard part is overpaying for an X79 board + DDR3 if you don't one already.

I'm still using mine, waiting for Ryzen to mature or skylake-x before I upgrade.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B8GDKZ

>>59267286
No you do not need to blow that much money on ram

>>59267369
Nice. I wouldnt cheap out on the keyboard and mouse after that expensive of a build but ok. What are you naming her?

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>>59267298
32GB to game, chrome, maybe video edit and stream.

>>59267337
AUD. We have high tax on American imports and Amazon isn't even allowed to sell here.
I don't know, I asked my local brick and mortor but they said they'd "ask for a supplier ETA"

>>59267385
I'd have a small dick even with 16GB 3200mhz

>>59267402
Princess elsa

>>59267369
The hell? You can have a build with a 1080 gtx cheaper than that build.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fxmND8

this is current PC, what to upgrade?

I'm currently picking parts for my first ever build. It's intended for video editing (and things related to that such as color grading).

This is the WIP:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/43wXZ8

However, I'm not entirely sure if I'm picking the right stuff. For example, the motherboard and the video card are ones I picked because they came recommended at the tier level, but I have no idea if they're appropriate.

Also, I haven't picked a case yet. I'm considering this one since it seems spacious enough and cheap, but I'm not the biggest fan of bright LEDs:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/43wXZ8
Can the LEDs be turned off?

If someone could give me some advice I would be extremely grateful.

>>59267511
Whoops I meant this case:
http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mid-tower/elite-430-black/

>>59265931
Is it regular GTR or the Black Edition GTR ? What clock speeds can you get with it, if you're overclocking that is ?

>>59247073
>why would you ever want the ryzen? if youre retarded enough to spend loads of money on the 1800x why not just buy the i7 7700k for $215 less?

Because the 1800x is about twice as good at heavily threaded tasks.

>>59263621

I'm still fairly new at this but I was looking on the Motherboard and I saw it can support 3000mhz ram but it has an OC next to it, what does this mean in practical terms?

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Why some brands sell graphic cards more expensive than the others? An Asus gtx 1080 can be like 200€ more expensive than a GigaByte brand. Is it all down to quality?

What is the problem with my system?
>Have HD7870, vacuum computer, boots to a black screen after the windows logo if I use gfx drivers (tested many different drivers on a clean install)
>works fine without drivers though
>bought rx470, no picture at all then, fans and lights on gpu works though
>changed to rx480, exactly the same problem as with 470...

asrock 970 extreme4
corsair 650w modular
7870 uses 2x6pin, 470 was 1x6pin and 480 6+2pin

Are there any PC-building websites that are actually reliable to buy from?

I'm talking your cyberpowerPCs and your Ibuypowers. I'm a total neanderthal when it comes to building things and I really don't want to fuck something up, but all of these kinds of websites seem to have a million horror stories.

>>59267664
Some of it is about the binning, yes. Brandname and the cooling solution also add to it. Still not worth paying extra 200€for the same GPU.

>>59267847

anything on pcpartpicker is reliable. i bought from outletpc mostly and everything came on time, no damages.

A few questions after I got my PC all put together

i7-6700K 4.5ghz @ 1.36v
Asus Maximus VIII Hero ATX
Crucial Ballistix Sport 4x4GB DDR4-2400

Every 20th boot or so, I'll get a BIOS message that says OVERCLOCKING FAILED but when I restart, it boots into code 55 which is faulty RAM. I press the MEMOK! button and it boots like nothing happened. Any ideas?

Also, when I go into my BIOS and attempt to overclock my RAM to 2400mhz, it won't boot, even with added voltage. Is there something that I'm missing? I enable XMP and even that boots into code 55 and I have to restart it.

Can anyone help me with this pluz
>>59266363
Really need it soon

Is FSP a decent psu brand or just shit?

>>59267479
1080s are about $150 more expensive

>>59243045
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2yWz9W
Critique please.

>>59268228
Get a better cooler if u plan on overclocking

>>59268086
What's your budget?

>>59267511
Someone, please help.

>>59268316

it's all fine. anyways you're better off looking on pcpartpicker at the completed builds to see what people say about the parts and what looks good together.

>>59268272
Ok

is having two 1080s with an i5 7600k worth it? Now that the 1080ti has been announced how long will the current 1080s be on the market and roughly how far will they come down in price?

also can an 850w PSU handle two of them?

>>59268453
>current year
>asking about bottlenecking
Also, look at the tdp of the 1080 Ti and do the math.

>>59268368
Thanks!

>>59268290
$1500

>>59268868
Including a monitor, that is.

I've never built a PC before. Can you guys take a look at my build and tell me if I did anything stupid?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x9QvYr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJs2CRWYsBw

This has to be the dumbest build I've ever seen
>let's glue 18 pounds of fucking rocks to the interior of the case to fuck up air circulation and make the general manipulation of parts a pain in the ass

>>59268868
R7 1700/1700x/1800x
x370 or b350 MOBO(I don't know much about motherboards)
Either 1070 or 480 depending on the monitor resolution(I'd probably get 480 and two 1080p monitors since your focus seems to be on productivity rather than gaming, but you can probably fit a 1070 and a good 1440p monitor into the budget instead)
Good PSU in the 500W range(evga 80+ gold PSUs seem to be popular at the moment. At your budget, I would definitely aim for 80+ gold or better rating, and good quality is important)
16GB of RAM
SSD in the 250GB range - Samsung SSDs(850/950/960) are generally recommended

That should get you started, at least.

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>>59268896
>optical drive in 2017
>not getting pirated windows

>>59269001
Thanks a lot, anon! :)

>>59269049
Is disliking a optical drive a meme on /g/? It it like "thin ur paintz" on /tg/ back in the day?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qqvk7h

I may do some minor gaming but I mainly want it for programming and other misc. shit
Just want my PC to be prepared if I develop any new interests

>>59269125
it's not about that but USB sticks store so much more than a DVD or BluRay ever will

>>59269125
Most people don't use them more than once a year and external ones are cheap and work.

>>59269130
Way too expensive for your needs. You're better off with an i5, 8GB of RAM and an RX480.

Also your cooler kind of sucks, look for a good Noctua

>>59269162
>>59269167

Ah. I just liked using for the rural area i'm in where people haven't caught up, connection is spotty at times, and another mention that the people are technophobic.

I just took on the "old" habit I guess of having that sort of technology around when older stuff is around. Especially when building generic pcs for the peeps around here. That reminds me I should really get a floppy disc reader.

>>59269125
There's just very little reason to get an optical drive nowadays when usb storage is bigger and faster basically everything that you used to install from a CD or DVD can now be downloaded from the internet

Building a water-cooled 7600K system
The processor will be the only thing on the loop.

My case has 120mm fan mounts, and I don't feel like cutting my case to make space for more radiators, so I'm going with a 120x120 one that I can mount on the rear fan mount. I'm debating between these 3. How thick of one should I get? Will a super thick radiator have any benefit for a loop with just the processor?

Also, my case has a top-mount PSU, how thick can I go without getting in the way of the PSU fan?

>>59269049
I didn't know if I needed it to install the OS *shrug*
That's why I said tell me if I did anything stupid

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>>59269218
forgot pic

>>59257516
>3000hz RAM
>hz
I've seen this enough times. Stop it.

Where to buy windows 10?

>>59269982
Windows store.
btw how to overclock my hard drive to catch up with SSD?

how easy is it to pirate w10
am on a budget cant afford 100$ for w10

What kind of person would need a 1080ti? What kind of games need that kind of power?

>>59271097
depends on the monitor
would be useful for 4k or 144hz 1440p

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7tqJPs

Need some advice on this build. Will most likely get an RX 500 if the price is acceptable when it comes out in April. Is the hard drive large enough? Will be using this machine for gaming, watching anime, and other general work.

>>59271269
I only have 1 monitor, the meme one, the asus vg248qe and don't really see myself in need of upgrading. Am I better off just buying a regular 1080 since the prices are dropping?

>>59271304
1080 would be a good way to make sure you stay at 1080p 144hz but the ti would be overkill for 1080p only

>>59269218
>>59269237
thicker means a better ability to cool the liquid
find out the dimensions of the radiator that you want and also measure the area of where you want to put it, but make sure you have enough room to actually put it in there

>>59266682
>>59266793

water-cooling is a meme

this might be big, but it'll fit in your case and do a better job

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/46tCmG/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14

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Is there anything wrong with this RAM for Ryzen? I'm reading you want lower timings if possible, but those are expensive as fuck for 3000mhz or above

>>59269218
>Building a water-cooled 7600K system
Why on earth would you water cool a mid range CPU? Please don't tell me you already bought the parts, but an i7 or R7 1700 instead and water cool later

>>59257398
Please don't tell me you're going to run a 1070 on a 1080p 60hz display

Ill be buying this in chunks. What tweaks should i make
>pls respond
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kgKQgL

>>59271097

At this point you don't buy a better video card to meet a particular game's demands, you buy it to run games at higher resolutions. If you want to play at 4k a 1080ti is the card to buy.

>>59272574
Nah, don't need 4k.

Would nvidia's regular founders edition be good? Don't wanna order anything online and maybe just get it at a best buy or something.

>>59272478
>Ill be buying this in chunks.
Don't
Why are you buying windows?

What are you using your PC for?

What is your display set up?

>>59271304
>>59272663
For 1080p 144hz gaming you could easily get away with a Fury card on Sale, or a 1070

I would however recommend instead getting an Rx 480 with a better display, namely this pixio 1440p 144hz IPS free-sync display, currently $350, nvidia has no way to compete with their G-sync displays at that price

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAB714894154

>>59272739
>>59272663
The Fury at $250 right now is a better buy for performance vs the 1070

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M2mxFT/sapphire-video-card-112470340g

the cheapest dual fan 1070 I can see on the part picker is 389
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4XyxFT/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-windforce-oc-video-card-gv-n1070wf2oc-8gd

>>59267083
Look up real benchmarks, he's 100% right, recommending an 8350 for games in 2017 is unarguably retarded

>>59268908
The air circulation is 100% unaffected I can guarantee you that
But there's plenty of other reasons why that's stupid

>>59272780
>>59272739
Hell you could buy the Fury with that 1440p display for around the cost of a 1080

>>59269237
Is there no spaces for a 240mm radiator?
The point of having a radiator is having a big radiator,for best results you want as much radiator surface area in the loop as possible

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who needs a gamer cockpit/chairr?

How do you guys usually deal with wi-fi? Attachment or a card?

>>59272478
>buying in chunks
NEVER do this
Why
What can you possibly see going well about this decision?
Get some fucking discipline and buy the whole thing at once, because it'll all be functional at once, you'll have all fresh warranties at once, it'll costs the same or maybe less if you wait to buy it at once, there will be better products out to choose from
Buying a worthless pile of parts every month for 6 months until you can put it together is fucking stupid

>>59272780
Pcpartpicker isn't a store link by the way
My 1070 was $370 shortly after the got the first restock after launch

>>59272934
A wireless network adapter usually
Either way remember that it's a temporary fix until you wore up your Ethernet, don't spend too much on a wifi adapter

>>59272964
well sure but it is a quick way to check pricing generally

>>59272992
Not in the used or ESPECIALLY the old market where they show 3 year old video cards as $600
I doubt you can consistently find $250 fury X's

does the 1080 pascal still artifact on 144hz?

>>59273104
Newegg has had the non X Fury priced at around $250 for months now

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Redpill me on vertical monitors
I just got a 2-in-1 laptop I'm LOVING the portrait mode. Should I get a cheapo 1080p monitor to portrait next to my 27" 16:9 screen? Should I get it 1440p vertical? I assume that having 144hz on main monitor and 60hz on vertical one wouldn't be an issue right?

>>59273131
The non-X sure, what about the one that can actually compete against the 1070 at 1440p?
I just want to see that claim that there's a $250 fury X in stock somewhere, you're 100% right if that's true, but if there isn't fury X for that cheap the 1070 is really the much better option

>>59273203
I never said Fury X , the non X is only 10% behind it, and obviously for almost $150 less than the 1070 it's worth it

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>>59273297
This is the only comparison between the 1070 and non-X fury I could find, the fury X compares with the 1070 but the non fury might as well be a regular 980, they're really not comparable and the non-X fury often runs below 60fps on many games
There will be a lot of times where it's just not enough for 1440p

>>59273541
Is that vulkan or open GL?

Wish this guy tested more games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4qHjM32d3k

In any case, a Fury with a 1440p 144hz IPS free-sync display, is a better option IMO, than a 1070, then saving up for a G-sync display, which will be more expensive for the same specs

>>59273606
Freesync and what, 60hz?
Because freesync and 1440p 144hz with a current and card would be a waste imo (or a good chance to wait for vega)

>>59273696
He seems to want a new card now, but only has a 1080p 144hz TN display

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This is for a project of mine. I have a dead xbox original and figured the case could come in handy, I've already gutted and cleaned the thing it just needs parts and maybe a bit of re-engineering. My budget is around the total price in pic, give or take $20. I live in Canada other wise I would be able to get more for my money. Any way to get to the point I need /pcbg/ help on deciding which one to use or if I should make changes. I'm leaning more to option 1 but I'm still having troubles deciding.

make new bread

>>59273950
The G4560 should be cheaper anyways

Why would you buy an internal blu ray drive, or a blu ray drive at all for a PC? buy a USB one if anything, but it's not really worth it since blu ray requires pricey software to work on PC as the encryption hasn't been broken yet like for DVDs

60gbs is not big enough for an SSD get a 1TB hard drive

Why on earth would you buy a GT 730 when you have an iGPU on the G4560?

You have the wrong memory for Kaby Lake it needs DDR4

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Just save your money for Ryzen R3/5 and get an RX 470 minimum for 1080p gaming

both are bad builds overall

>>59272833
I didnt recommend the 8350 you gigantic faggot.
I said a fucking 5 year old CPU performs the same as a new babbylake in games.

>>59273950
That cooler appears to have less thermal mass than intel's stock cooler it should be worse actually

You'd either want a server style heat sink with really high air flow, or one of those fat as fuck noctua ITX coolers

>>59271097
4k ultra settings

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>>59274081
But you're wrong
*remember the 9350 is just a 220w 8350*

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planning on picking up a r5/mobo/ddr4, and reusing the rest of my current stuff

>>59274200
>I5 7600k not repesented
>testing 1440p and not 1080p which is like 98% of gamers.

Pls go

>>59274047

>Why would you buy an internal blu ray drive

I wanted to be able to read/write blu ray or cds disks without having an external drive beside the pc and also I wanted to use the Xbox logo on the case and adhesive it to the front of the disk drive

>60gbs is not big enough for an SSD get a 1TB hard drive

Already own one, my bad I should of stated that.

>Why on earth would you buy a GT 730 when you have an iGPU on the G4560?

I've read that using and gpu with and igpu may cause better performance.

>Just save your money for Ryzen R3/5 and get an RX 470 minimum for 1080p gaming

I just might do that then depending on the pricing.

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>>59274321
They don't make benchmarks comparing the two because it's stupidly one sided in every single benchmarking aspect from single core to power consumption to clocks to even multicore performance
The 8350 loses to fucking 2500k's regularly
If you can find a modern benchmark comparing those two CPUs in gaymen then by all means id love to see you post it
I don't have any fucking idea why you're defending an 8350 which has been proven to be shit for the last 5 years

>>59274120
> That cooler appears to have less thermal mass than intel's stock cooler it should be worse actually

I've read reviews that have stated this, I was just looking for something that has a really small form factor

>You'd either want a server style heat sink with really high air flow, or one of those fat as fuck noctua ITX coolers

I'll look into server style heat sinks, for the noctua ITX coolers, I felt like they were just to bulky

>>59274321
The only proof you have is passmark, which is garbage anyways
There's absolutely no way an 8350 can beat a 7600k, especially in low-threaded tasks like games

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>>59274423
Yes goy.
Buy over priced Intel products which dont offer a fair price/Performance ratio.

>>59274393
>I've read that using and gpu with and igpu may cause better performance.
No.

It makes far more sense to get a USB one simple for space savings and the ability to easily use it on any PC

The R3 4c/4t chip should cost half as much as an i5 while delivering 90% of it's performance, it's supposed to be out Q2

76 CAD for this chinese USB blu ray drive
https://www.amazon.ca/Ranavy-External-Blu-ray-Reader-DVD-RW/dp/B01AL4FUHM/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

LG makes one as well
https://www.amazon.ca/LG-BP50NB40-Blu-ray-Rewriter-External/dp/B00ZTA6IKM/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

But why do you need to read/write blu rays? for archiving?

>>59274456
You literal baboon.
I dont try to convince him to buy a 8350.
I want to Show that the 7600k is too expensive for his purpose.
Other cpus would be just as fine. As long as you dont get a hell of a Deal for the 7600k it is not worth the money.

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>>59274486
I mean you can go ahead and enjoy your worse-than-2500k IPC and worse-than-any-i7 multicore performance while having 20° hotter temps and drawing 50% more power that won't even run games next year

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>>59274486
Oh you want to talk about price to performance?

>>59274486
>not even a 6600k

>>59274567
>believing the zen series is for gayming

KEK you Intel tard.
They are for content creation and not gaming.
Tho, they handle gaming just well enough.
As if You snowflake could tell the difference between 135fps and 142.
Or hell, even 120 and 142.


>>59274603
Why not getting the g4560?
I'm a big Fan of that CPU and bought it twice already for different PCs.

>>59274668
Me posting that benchmark has literally nothing to do with zen, it's just showing how much better the 7600k is over the 2500k (which itself beats the 8350)
And you're right, the g4560 smashes the 8350 even more definitively

>>59274510
>No.

Kek ok should of know it was internet bs as they didn't have much proof

>It makes far more sense to get a USB one simple for space savings and the ability to easily use it on any PC

I onw a cd/dvd drive that I use with a usb converter, I just wanted something inside the pc for more mobility

>The R3 4c/4t chip should cost half as much as an i5 while delivering 90% of it's performance, it's supposed to be out Q2

Well thats great to hear about the R3 chip, haven't done much research on it but if it's going to cost half the cost while being 90% better than an i5 than I'll wait

>But why do you need to read/write blu rays? for archiving?

your right on the dot with archiving, I don't own a blu ray drive so it would be nice.