/hpg/ headphone general

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http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/07/banned-at-head-fi.html

How bad are semi-opens like the Superlux HD681EVO in public?
In places like public transport is the isolation shitty and will there be too much leakage in quiet spaces?

Still loving my Xiaomi Piston 3 headphones. Anything new I should buy as a backup?

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Quick note that a mentally ill pajeet is constantly shilling SHP9500 headphones in /hpg/ that are complete garbage. If someone recommends you SHP9500, beware. These are mediocre headphones with no bass and they are of shoddy build quality.

>>59199344
I have a pair and they're good enough for gaming so I can hear what I'm actually saying

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Are the Yamaha HS5W good speakers?

>>59199344
>SHP9500

Never heard of this model. How much does it cost?

Is it better than Chinese ones?

>>59199344
but, under 100 dollarinos and without gayming aesthetics, they are good.

>>59199229
piston 3

DELETE THIS FUCKING THREAD

WE NEED MORE ROOM FOR THE RYZEN SHIT DISSAPOINTMENT

Need some headphones I can take with me to school so I can block out noises while I study in between classes. Love my MDR-7506 but I can't take them because they're too bulky and they'd just make me look like a faggot. Tried to buy some cheap sony earbuds but the quality is too bad

>Budget
$40 hard cap
>Location
USofA
>Source
Phone (Nexus5x)
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Very important! I have minor cauliflower ear which isn't visibly noticeable but makes in-ear headphones painful after a bit of time
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
MDR-7506

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Posted in a previous thread, following up a bit. I'm picking up the HD598s to replace some old A40s I'd been using for the better part of a decade. They'll be used solely in my computer, with no amp as I'm honestly tech-illiterate when it comes to that stuff and picked up what /hpg/ recommended.

How much of a quality difference am I likely to notice, assuming I have completely untrained ears? My current headphones are breaking down so I'm picking it up regardless, but I don't really know what to expect.

>Budget
200-300
>Location
US
>Source
Phone/mobo/Fulla 2
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Either, assuming open for sound quality.
>Comfort level
High
>Sound signature
V-shaped
>Past headphones
HD600, SHP9500, HD280, CAL

My neutraltism needs are met via 600's, just looking for something with a more "fun" sound signature for movies/gaymin.
Something easy to drive like the X2's would be cool, so I can walk around the house, but not a necessity.

Currently looking at the DT880/770 and X2's, anything else I should look into?

>>59200310
X2 definitely or the 770s if you want a really agressive V shape

>>59199947
Fuck off everyone knows that only the shills are figuring that out now

>>59200310
Look into EQing. Having more than one pair of headphones for the same purpose is silly.

>>59200476
But anon, I do eq.
Isn't variety the spice of life?

>>59200517
Then why do you want another pair?

>>59200476
how can I use an Equalizer on PC?

>>59200606
Equalizer APO + Peace GUI if you're using Windows.

>>59200562
So I don't have to bother with eq.
Rather just have the sound I'm looking for out of the box.

Besides, I've had the 600's a little over a year, looking to mix things up, y'all don't enjoy experiencing different sound signatures from time to time?

>>59200649
>So I don't have to bother with eq.
You must be earning a lot if 30 minutes of your time is worth more than $300 to you.
>Rather just have the sound I'm looking for out of the box.
Did you try out DT 770, DT 880 and X2? How do you know it's the sound you're looking for?
>y'all don't enjoy experiencing different sound signatures from time to time?
No, I enjoy different music.

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>>59199344
>waah these neutral headphones don't have enough bass for my nigger music so they're shit!!

>>59200649
>y'all don't enjoy experiencing different sound signatures from time to time?

That's just your internalizing of your subconscious dissatisfaction with dynamic drivers.

>>59199344
how did you combine all posts?

>>59199056
re: nwavguy/headfi, see Chapter 12:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up

Also, snapped headbands -> morons following "stretching guides"

>>59200734
>You must be earning a lot if 30 minutes of your time is worth more than $300 to you.
No neet life here, and tax returns.
>Did you try out DT 770, DT 880 and X2? How do you know it's the sound you're looking for?
I've only tried the 880's, but it was a decent time ago and there aren't any stores near me where I can try again.

I've also had cheap headphones with the V, and dug them (Takstar 2050), especially for gaymes.

>>59199229
These aren't headphones. They're IEMs -_-

>>59200412
DT770 aren't "fun". They're just bassy.

DT880 should actually be fun without being absolute garbage.

>>59200865
I guess I'll recommend the X2 then.

>>59199183
pls help

>>59201186
(((semi-open))) is just open
http://uk.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/akg/k240-mkii
scroll down to isolation
don't fall for (((their))) marketing schemes

>>59200782
Big difference between neutral and extremely rolled off bass. Neutral is neutral all the way form 20 to 20k, not from 100 to 20k

>>59200898
The DT990 are the fun headphones. The 770s are bassy as fuck and the 880 is __/ shaped with that fucking colossal treble peak and neutral everything else.

>>59201243
ahh fuck
guess i'll have to get some closed ones after all
thanks

>>59199445
Yes

Is there a good budget close headphone with a detachable cable?

>>59201422
several! :)

>>59201484
Enlighten me then! :)

http://www.akg.com/pro/p/k92

These are gr8 budget closed back headphones.

K52 (£39), K72 (£39) and K92 (£49)

I've owned both the 72's and 92's.

Lost the 72's on a whiskey rampage and replaced them with a new set of K92's since they were the same price new and sealed on eBay (£33).

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>>59198977

>>59201514
NVX XPT100 ;)
Audio-Technica ATH-M40x =)
Status Audio CB-1 B)
M-Audio HDH50 x)

>>59201422
HD 598 Cs

>>59201535
but i said detachable cable :(
>>59201566
>>59201766
that's not really budget xP
>why are you so fucking cheap faggot fuck urself
i live in eastern europe
good headphones are very rery expensive here
i meant like 70 buckaroos tops

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>>59201792
>i meant like 70 buckaroos tops

>Budget
70 buckaroos tops
>Location
eastern europe
>Source
stolen iphone
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
cyka
>Sound signature
blyat

>>59201792
filled out the form 4u ;))

>>59201855
but how can i be sure the product is delivered in good condition and that it isn't all wrecked up and scarred and that it actually works?
i'm sorta new to the headphone buying business, you guys usually buy them used?
>>59201888
thanksies ;^3

>>59201792
Yeah I know. I was going to post this in the thread anyway. It was a coincidence that you were looking for cheap closed back headphones lol.

>>59201940
It says right there that it's just a 1/4 inch ding or scratch or something. No manual, but who gives a shit. They should work just fine.

>you guys usually buy them used?

No, but you're poor as shit. I got mine for $99 new. $66 is not a bad price for them at all.

>>59202071
lol, thanks i guess
you have opened a new window for me

DT 770 PRO - 80 OHM > all

Why are the HD668B not recommended anymore?

>>59200848
That's a screenshot from the archive you dum dum. He just searched whatever line it is that an anon is forcing here?

Headphone advice appreciated:

I'd like :
> over ear
> wireless
> noise cancelling
> great sound, good bass
> around 150 pounds (175 Euro)

Thinking of going with these: https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ms-android-oneplus&biw=360&bih=512&q=Sony+mdr+zx770bn&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwidw4DS-rfSAhVBDMAKHe0XBTIQBQgWKAA

>>59202251
>> wireless

Your post is inappropriate and you need to leave right now.

>>59202159
Might be because Samson SR850's got price dropped to $30 on Amazon and they have the same drivers

>>59202296
That's only in 'muriga though, right?

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Don't mind me, just posting the world's best headphones.

How does the soundstage on the hd 598Cs compare to the hd 598, the Audio Technica ATH-A900X or other open headphones

>>59202813
Just checked real quick and confirmed for Murica, UK and Amazon.de

So with Apple pushing the "wireless only" meme, and Bluetooth being an outdated fossil, how can we get quality sounding wireless headphones that audiophiles will approve?

>Budget
$150 (flexible)
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop
>Type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Cozy, coziness comes before sound quality although that's still important
>Past headphones
40$ storeboughts, nothing particularly good

>>59203056
HM5

>>59203056
DT 770

Sound card, external dac, or just an amplifier for my pc? Currently using the mobo jack. No interference or anything its just too quiet for when I want to jam out.

>>59202836
Jack of all trades, master of none

They don't excell at anything and are just boring.

>>59204764
Get HD650 if you want not boring HD600.

>>59204811
Kek, they're even more boring. A complete snoozefest

>>59203056
M50x

>>59205113
>cozy
>M50X
You must be a masochist

>>59203056
Status CB-1/Somic MM185
M40X with HM5 Pads

>Budget
200€
>Location
EU
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Regular
>Comfort level
Honestly, I don't know, since I've only been using cheap 10-20€ headphones
>Sound signature
Don't know.
>Past headphones
Shitty headphones for 10-20€

Use the PC for music/movies,shows/games, in that order.

>>59205477
>Regular
Open or closed back?
Over ear, on ear or in ear(rubber tip)/earbud (Older apple earphone style)?

>>59205619
The ones that have the better sound. I live alone, and I don't think I will have any disturbances. Could you give me some suggestions for both open and closed?

What's the difference between on ear and over ear?

My earbuds keeps losing bass and some volume in the right one, am I going deaf or my phone is breaking them?

>>59204764
>They don't excell at anything and are just boring.
They excel at accuracy, now go take your colored shit elsewhere, Jamal.

>>59205770
put it in your left ear and you'll know

>>59205659
Open:
AKG K612/DT 880/HD 600 - Neutral
DT 990 - V-Shaped
HD 598/Fidelio L2 - Warm
AKG K712/K7XX - Bassy
Fidelio L1 - Bassy/Dark
ATH-AD900X - Bright

Closed:
DT 770/Custom One Pros - V-Shaped
Brainwavs HM5 - Neutral
ATH-A500Z - Bright

I personally don't remember of any Bassy/Warm headphones at the moment.

On ears are usually smaller, slimmer and low profile usualky meant for travel and sit on your ear. (Think of the $120ish Beats form factor).

Over ears go around and over your ear so the pad surrounds your ears. Usually a bit bulky and not as portable with the exception of some like Audio Technica's M Series, M50X's for example)

Been using AKG k240 studio for a little over 2 years now. I like the sound for the price I paid. The only thing lacking is the very weak bass sound. However, it's become extremely uncomfortable to wear them.
The ear pads are too shallow and press the drivers right against my ears. This makes them painful after periods of more than an hour. Does anybody have a recommendation on replacement ones? I've heard big thick pads can add a bit of bass sound so that might be a plus.
Either that or I might just craigslist off these cans and pick up a Senheisser 598c.

Give me a pair of earphones I can use without an equalizer

>>59206218
HM5 Hybrids

>>59206247
hf5

>>59206257
Those actually look excellent. A bit pricey for just ear pads, but I assume they're compatible with a wide range of cans, so I guess i could transfer them over if i decide to still upgrade later.

>>59206163
Thanks for the suggestions, could you explain what neutral/warm/bright/dark/v-shaped means?
Also, over ear headphones obviously for home use.

>>59206218
http://dekoniaudio.com/product/dekoni-audio-epz-akg-k-pl-platinum-memory-foam-ear-pads-fit-akg-k-series-headphones/
I have these on my k271, increased the low end a noticeable amount (to my ears), as they seal better than the stock pads, very comfortable too.

Also, most ear pads that are made for the DT 770/880/990 are known to fit on the k240/k271 series of headphones (and their variants).

>>59198977
I've got a pair of Sony's like that, they're fucking shit

Why are headphones cheaper in the USA? I'm a Brit & see people commenting all the time about great sub $100 headphones and here they cost around £130, I just can't justify paying that at times.

>>59205804
The only thing neutral are the mids. Bass and treble are recessed

>>59206538
You could always get cheap AKG Velours but they still are pretty shallow. HM5 Hybrids aren't actually too pricey. Alpha and ZMF pads are when they start getting pricey

>>59199344
No different than tht guy who kept /hpg/ would still say headsets are shit with the pic of a Audio Technica headset

>>59199056
>Autistic Screeching

>>59199530
~$60 and yes

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>tfw can only hear up to about 17.5k and I'm only 20

>>59207034
I can only hear up to 16 now
I don't mind, the rest basically just hurts anyway

I've got a friend looking to get his first open cans for under $50 US.
He listens to a lot of metal and likes bass, so I recommended the ISK HF-2010.

This a good recommendation?

Why is the ATH-m50x so popular? I've seen a bunch of reviews shitting all over it. A few even said just get the cheaper m40x in the same product stack. One youtube review of the m40x was even titled "fuck the m50x even harder"
Some of the reviews I've seen say it's too bright, with some of the trebels being extremely harsh, to the point of discomfort after a while of listening.

>>59199344
I only recommend them when a person is looking for a headphone with their characteristics for under $100. I have a pair, and they sound great. I'm not sure what you mean by mediocre. They have a pretty neutral sound, with a less bass than many headphones, but more bass than some critically acclaimed open backs. Nothing to bitch about there really.

If you're looking for "fun" headphones that have an insane V shape response with fuck tons of bass, don't get them, but most of us aren't looking for that.

The build quality is okay. I've dropped mine a few times, and I always fear the worst, but they haven't broke yet. The plastic and materials feel great and solid in the hands, but the rotating joint where the cup connects to the rest of the headphones may be a weak point if the headphones take a good drop.

>>59205770
Play the same track downmixed to mono, and try wearing the headphones normally vs reversed.

>>59207171
Everything about them is good if you're a kid who's just getting into audio, who only has experience with shitty earbuds. That's where a majority of the praise comes from.

They're also viewed as an alternative to Beats, so naturally, these type of people are going to try and justify everything buying them and hype how good they are (still better than Beats actually). They've become a fashion statement, just like Beats.

You can easily do 10X better for the money.

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tell mo some info about tenmak pro

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>>59198977
So I found a pair of audio-technica ATH-M40fs'es at my parents house, and they said I could keep them. Apparently my brother got them for $2 at a yard sale a few years ago.

How good/bad are they?

>>59207176
kys pajeet.

>>59207125
Those are pretty good, I'd also throw in Samson SR850's

>>59207324
Try them. If you like them, keep'em.

>>59207488
They sound pretty good but I've never used good headphones, they could be shit for all I know.

But yes they do sound great, compared to cheap $10 earbuds.

>>59206561
pls respond

>>59207624
nothing emphasized
bass emph
treble emph
bass weak/not emph
bass & treb emph

>>59206163
>HD 598
>warm

Pretty sure they're not warm

>>59207674
they're neutral to warm, they have a slight bass boost, especially for open headphones, it's not much but it's definitely there

>>59207324
>>59207518
General consensus is that they're good, better than the m50's

I just bought the x2's for cheap, I just wanted a movie/gaming headphone to compliment my 650's. It is nice for gaming/movies, but damn it doesn't sound good at all for my music compared to the 650's (I mainly listen to hip hop, some metal, some electronic). I only listened to my x2's for about a day now, do I need to burn it into my brain to appreciate its sound sig or is it just impossible to appreciate opposite sound sigs without brain adjustment? I love the design, comfort, and bass of the x2's but damn its mids and treble spike suck ass.

>>59207740
How much do you spend on these ?

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Kek

>>59207215

Tried wearing them reversed but it's a hook in-ear type so it won't fit properly, maybe I'll try with different tips.

>>59206163
Which of these would you recommend the most? Also are ath m40x or m50x any good or comparable to the ones you listed?

>>59207786
$215, I have 45 days to either return or keep them

>>59207939
I heard that these are for fun, bassy and soo one

>>59207740
>I mainly listen to hip hop, some metal, some electronic
I thought they were better for hip hop and electronic. They seem to have really good bass

>>59207939
Listen to them and only them for a week or so, don't eq either.

If you don't warm up to them, they're probably not for you.

I'm in a bit of an odd spot here. A few of you might have noticed me asking very similar questions for the past couple of threads, but I've been doing research for the past 2 days straight and I'm still no closer to a decision. I'm going to just ask to be spoonfed an answer at this point.

I posted this here; >>59206218, Tl;dr I'm using akg k240 studio, and I'm not satisfied with the comfort or the bass output. I'm not a basshead, but a few genres I listen to feature some really deep, earthy grumbly bass, Doom for example. I'm a fan of old Black Sabbath, Sleep, etc. I also listen to a bit of metal, some Primus and Primus-like music like Ween, the Residents, weird stuff basically. I also use them for video games, but I'm really more concerned with the music performance.
I guess my ideal sound signature would be mostly neutral but just a slightly (but not overpoweringly) tighter/deeper bass.
I can replace the pads on the k240's and solve my comfort issue, but I'm reading that a lot of the less expensive pads actually take AWAY from the bass region, making me really even less happy with my sound.
Audio source: desktop computer, Realtek ALC1150 chipset

I'm looking for some headphones between $100 and $200. I'm finding so many options that it's making my head spin. I've researched quite a few units in this price range. At this point I'd rather not have to look up even more reviews, so I'm going to ask for opinions between:
Sennheiser HD 380 Pro; HD 598 se and Cs, AKG k553, AKG k7xx (the massdrop drop is live. it's also the tip top of my budget range), AKG ATH m40x, and Brainwavs HM5.

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>>59199344
>>59199344

One guy being gung-ho about them doesn't mean anybody is shilling.

They are terrific sounding phones with neutral sound signature (not rolled off bass like you say), and they are built very well. These are $60, remember. For the price, they are excellent. Also, they are by far the most comfortable headphones I've ever experienced.

There is nothing controversial about Philips SHP9500 headphones. They are one of many excellent options in a headphone market that is absolutely saturated with excellent products.

>>59208280
At some point you just have to try a pair and see what you like.
Get them from somewhere with a good return policy like Amazon and go crazy.

Out of the list you mentioned, I'd go HM5 for closed, 598se for open.

>>59208280
K553 have the best bass out of those headphones you mentioned granted you can get a proper seal.
K550 are essentially the same headphones and you can get them for $100 on Amazon right now which is a great deal.

SoundSport Pulse wireless for $149.99
SoundSport wireless for $112.49
BeatsX Earphones for $112.49
QuietComfort 35 wireless headphones for $262.49
SoundLink Mini Bluetooth Speaker II - Limited Edition Bluetooth Speaker for $149.99
Jaybird X3 Sport Bluetooth Headphones for $97.49


any of these worth buying?

>>59208215
>If you don't warm up to them
Not the same anon, but "warming" up for hard treble peaks is just impossible. The issue is no longer about the quality of the sounds but the fact that it phisically hurts to listen to them. DT990s, 702s, X2 - Gone after a week each. The HD650s are the only ones that I can listen to. I wonder if I'm just really sensitive to treble

>>59202917
hd598c < hd598

>>59208502
Not the same anon either, but all of those headphones have an excessive amount of treble. It's perfectly possible that you're treble sensitive on top of that, though. Listening volume plays a role, too.

>>59205187
Well, I'm looking to spend a little more.
>>59203437
Like this one
>>59205113
Other guy says its not cozy
>>59204060
Possibly

I think I will pull the trigger on HM5 unless anyone wishes to stop me.

>>59208280
Hey, I'm the guy from >>59206565

Just so you know, the drivers in the k240 are rather insensitive, in terms of running the headphone via onboard audio. Not to mention there's the addition of a pretty steep impedance spike at a tiny bit past 100hz. Impedance jumps from about 55 ohms to around 120 ohms. This could be the main reason why bass output isn't satisfying for you, as your onboard audio is struggling to provide enough power.

Velour pads usually have less bass presence than leather/pleather/protein leather pads, so some of these things you're reading about aftermarket pads probably are people switching over from leather/pleather/protein leather pads to velour.

>>59208756
>This could be the main reason why bass output isn't satisfying for you, as your onboard audio is struggling to provide enough power.
If his motherboard couldn't the sound would just clip. Buying a more powerful neutral amp won't change a thing

>>59198977
Friendly reminder that HD 600s can and will compete against your $2,000 headphones. Proof is below:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared

>>59199344
Kek. You're still going at it even after he has stopped spamming the thread?

Go back to your Head-Fi jerk-off, you massive Sennheiser Shill.

>>59207341
Off to Head-Fi you go.

>>59209062
If the 600s/650s are some of the best in the world... then I'm really disapointed.

I came from a 40€ creative headset and this is it?

>>59208202
I could say the bass is slightly better than my 650's but the mids and highs just suck.

>>59208215
Ok I'll try, I don't really mess with EQ so I'm good there.

>>59208502
>>59208572
Well damn, I might be treble sensitive too. I'm the guy with the x2's and 650's >>59207740
Any recommendations? Was looking into the k7xx's as a replacement. In the meantime, I might just use the x2's for just gaming/movies...

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>>59209247
>k7xx
Jesus christ no!
They have really nasty peaks at 7-8KHz and 13KHz. I actually owned the 712s, not those, but they are essentially the same. The K7XX is ever so slighly warmer and by that I mean like 1dB difference or less

The 13khz peak isn't shown in this graph but it's definitely there. I had to tame both by about -7dB

>>59209228
Its build quality is chink shit and its sound quality doesn't actually compete against headphones more expensive than it is.

>>59209298
>doesn't actually compete against headphones more expensive than it is.
Such as?

Forward treble peaks != better sound quality

What other neutral headphones sound better than the 650s?

>>59209315
Only the mids are neutral. Bass and treble is recessed. Not everyone likes that, anon.

>>59209364
There aren't any good bassy headphones or 300€ or less without bringing high ammounts of treble. The Oppo PM3 costs over fucking 400€. Everything else is just gamer trash or really boomy headphones that just sound like mud

Would HD650s driven by an O2+ODAC be worth the price compared to a mobo driven pair of X2s? Would there be a prominent quality difference?

>>59209400
What about the HE-400S' or the DT-880s? The HD 600s barely has bass, and i'm not sure some people like that. Of course, sound signature is subjective, right anon?

>>59209490
>Would there be a prominent quality difference?
The Fulla 2 or E10K cost far less and sound exactly the same

The 650s themselves sound very different form the X2s: Recessed sub bass, very tame treble and netrual mids VS hyped bass, less neutral mids, aggressive peak around 9-10Khz

>>59209530
>HE-400S
Those have even less bass than the 650s

> DT-880s
Yea they have better bass extension but what the fuck did I say about
> bringing high ammounts of treble
Are you dumb?

>>59209575
Kek. The HD 650's bass is lacking. Are you sure you are talking about the HE-400S and not the HE-400?

>>59209289
I mean k7xx's as a upgrade for the x2's for gaming/movies. I could just swap them out for cheap "gaming" headphones to save money or just return the x2's and use the 650's for everything but the 650's are pretty bad for gaming/movies. Or maybe, not sure which anon it was, but he said that it's impossible to "warm up" to certain treble - I might try to prove him wrong.

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Look what the mail brought :)

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These keep being posted in /csg/ threads and nearly everybody says they're great. What is your guys' opinion? I already have the (new) app earbuds. Is it worth spending the 16$ to get these?

>>59209877
>/csg/

Their standards can't be too high.

>>59209906
That's why I'm asking here :^)

>>59209080
>Go back to your Head-Fi jerk-off, you massive Sennheiser Shill.
This is the mentally ill Pajeet who's constantly shilling SHP9500. I doubt he gets paid to shill... he's just mentally unstable and too poor to afford medication.

ps: poo in the loo, pajeet.

>>59209764
>meme cans
over a pound. heavy clamp force.
kek... no thanks. enjoy all those sound distortions and hope your neck survives few days of that thing.

>>59210087
No, I am, anon. Why are you still mad? All I did were question your judgement. According to the Head-Fi review below, the HD 600s are equivalent to meme-tier earbuds. I thought they competed against $2,000 headphones, anon. Why is that?

Sorry for doubting your chink-shit plastic, but I am curious.

>>59210194
Link:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared

:^)

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>>59210134
The weight doesn't bother me and they are preloved, which might be why my pair doesn't clamp hard.
>sound distortion
bro...

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How does /g/ feel about the pro 4 AA? Are they just retro clunky vintage cans? Or do they actually sound good?

>>59207830
Out of all of those, its a tie between K612, K712, HD 600 and Custom One Pros in my opinion. The M40/50X's get blown out of the water unless you need them to be portable.

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blah blah blah stuff about people who don't have HD800 should kill themselves

blah blah blah how good they are

blah blah my phone is missing so i cant prove i own them

blah blah

TLDR: Kill yourself if you don't have HD800's.

>>59210606
Forgot to mention my phone is hidden under my bed because I'm a piss head and will drunk text everyone unless I hide it from myself. Currently listening to The Division Bell through my HD800's.

I really don't give a shit if no one believes me because at the end of the day you faggots are stuck listening to garbage music through your shit cans LMAO.

>>59208474
Jaybirds

>>59210302
I talked about them briefly in the previous thread
>>59184641

>>59210633
>Hidden in a place where I know it is
>The Division Bell

Fucking AMDfags I swear

>>59205148
ignore this guy i bought m50x and they're breddy gud

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>Budget
$250 soft limit
>Location
Australia
>Source
Mobo
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Open, closed is fine too
>Comfort level
Med-high
>Sound signature
warm, neutral
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 449

I'd appreciate if they looked nice as well. I don't have a DAC but wouldn't mind getting one if needed.

>>59212033
HD598 if you like some warmth. Don't particularly need an external DAC/Amp, so you won't have any extra cost there. Otherwise, save up for a HD600 and Magni 2.

>>59212072
Sennheiser are all ugly. Any AKG or Sony?

>>59211765
Still better home use options than M50X's since the price is up the ass now that it's not really worth it anymore

>>59211765
>>59212110
what he said. you can get much better value these days, and the m50x isn't the most comfortable headphone. They were my first proper headphone and i thought they sounded great and were comfortable until i tried others.

>>59212106
>Sennheiser are all ugly

They're fucking open headphones man. Youre not using them outdoors, who cares. There is the HD598SE, which is the black version of the 598 if it is the colour that you have issue with.

>Any AKG or Sony?

AKG don't have many 'warm' headphones. K7XX or K712 are your only real options. Both have quite peaky treble and are inferior to HD600's imo, although are still pretty good headphones. K7XX can be found for $200 USD on massdrop + shipping, though they need an external amp as most motherboards will perform pretty mediocrely with them.

Sony is shit, and their only things worth buying are a select few from their MDR series, which are closed anyway. If you have the option for open, I wouldn't recommend closed unless you really love sub-bass.

>>59211765
They're not. Peaky treble, awful comfort. HM5 pads fuck the sound up badly. The only option is DT250 style pads, but you still have to deal with the uncomfortable headband. DT770's are a infinitely better buy if you want the same heavy V-shape that M50x have, for not much more. Only reason to get M50x is portability, and even then I'd argue IEMs are better for that purpose, though I understand not everyone likes IEMs.

>>59212170
so what else do you suggest since i plan on buying another pair soon just for fun, just pointing out m50x really doesn't deserve all the hate it gets

>>59212208
also i've already got iems covered with my rha750s

>>59212174
I'll enjoy them more if they look good.
Halo effect.

I have Sony portable speaker, car speakers, home theater. They all sound great. Is it just headphones they can't do?

K7XX looks good, what amp would you recommend? something black.

Do I need a DAC or is just amplifying the mobo signal enough. What's the point of DACs?

>>59212106
imo, AKG K612 is the most neutral. The K712 and the K7XX have some warmth, but the treble may come off as bright and sibilant for some.

AKG's 'house sound' is more on the colder and brighter side of things (compared to a lot of their competition), so a lot of their headphones will take on this sound signature. The Q701 you posted in that picture will have this sound signature as well.

>>59212296
>I'll enjoy them more if they look good.
>Halo effect.
Placebo, but hey if it works then I cant complain.

>K7XX looks good, what amp would you recommend? something black.
I'd recommend the Magni 2. Absolutely the best amp for the pricerange. It's not black though. You could also get an O2. It's black. Not quite as resolute, and a fair bit brighter and 'tinny' in comparison to the Magni 2, but is also a decent amp. About half the power of the Magni, but will still push the AKG's.

>Do I need a DAC or is just amplifying the mobo signal enough. If your mobo has a line out, no, you probably don't.

>What's the point of DACs?
Convert digital ones and zeroes into analogue signal your audio gear/headphones can read. Better DACs can be more resolute and closer to transparency, but the differences are incredibly small. Unless you are using a fairly revealing audio chain, you probably won't mind. Especially as you seem to be after warmth. I still use my $8 AUD Chinese DAC over my motherboard, but it sounds just as good as a Modi 2, which is over ten times the price.

To tell if you need a DAC, try and listen for noise, artifacting, or an un-natural sound. If none of those are present, I wouldn't reccomend a DAC upgrade until you are a fair bit further down the line, or have the budget to spare.

The sort of upgrade path for DACs in my opinion is: motherboard > cheap USB DAC > SPDIF transfer DAC.

>>59212405
>>Do I need a DAC or is just amplifying the mobo signal enough. If your mobo has a line out, no, you probably don't.
Fuck, I'm retarded. I meant

>>Do I need a DAC or is just amplifying the mobo signal enough.
If your mobo has a line out, no, you probably don't.

>>59212210
For a fun signature, DT 770 80 ohm or Custom One Pro

>Budget
$80 hard limit
>Location
USA
>Source
iphone/laptop/desktop
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Med-high
>Sound signature
No clue, but I would guess neutral
>Past headphones
Nothing significant worth mentioning, used a pair of 100+ Sennheisers and Bose a few times.

Been shopping for wireless/bluetooth headphones for a bit, mainly looking for decent sound, comfort, and some isolation for when I study to block out noise. I would mainly be walking around campus or sitting somewhere using these. I'm perfectly ok with buying chink shit, in /csg/ I've seen recommendations of the Bluedio T3 and Ausdom.

youtube.com/watch?v=--hMEcgXg78

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can you nerds redpill me on the monoprice m1060?

it's being compared to the audeze lcd2, is it worth upgrading from a hd650?

Thoughts on the HD800 now that they can be found for around $1,099?

>>59214147
>now that they can be found for around $1,099?
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-800-Reference-Dynamic-Headphone/dp/B001OTZ8DA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488529154&sr=8-1&keywords=hd800
Some people like them, some people don't. Seems like more people like them than people that don't though. If you can stand the treble peak, which seem to be the main complaint, then you'll probably like them.

>>59214092
>is it worth upgrading from a hd650?
Sound wise it seems like it. Comfort wise it seems not. Wait for more reviews. Youre not going to be able to buy one for two months anyway supposedly.

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Tell me about the HD558.
I got them as a gift, they're the first pair of headphones I've had.

>>59214369
A bit muddy, highs are a bit grainy. Build is mediocre, locking 2.5 cable is retarded.

Otherwise, comfort is amazing, and they have more than adequate soundstage and imaging.

>>59199344
I prefer them over my 598's though

>>59214369
Open them up and take out the foam and you've got 598's.

Guys now I actually think IEMs sound better than headphones
Should I cut my ears off?

>>59214543
>Guys now I actually think IEMs sound better than headphones

Although I don't agree, IEMs can be great, especially for their very clean low end in comparison to fullsize headphones.

I'm rocking the Skullcandy Crusher and I want to upgrade. What do you guys suggest? Should I keep them?

>>59214577

>Skullcandy
>Should I keep them?

no.

Can anyone recommend a decent mp3 for under 60$? Need one for use in the army. Preferably with long battery life, radio built in would also be a nice bonus. Currently looking at fiio m3.

>>59212072
HD598+HD600 owner here.

Neither in my experience nor in the frequency response measurements is HD598 warm.

However, it _is_ slightly warm if compared to HD600. But that's just because HD600 is extremely neutral.

>>59215352
How does the comfort of the HD600 compare to the 598? Thinking about getting HD650 (can't handle the 600 marble pattern). but I haven't tried them on yet.

>>59214369
They're almost as good as HD598. The frequency response is very close.

http://graphs.headphone.com/index.php?graphID%5B0%5D=2861&graphID%5B1%5D=2851&graphID%5B2%5D=&graphID%5B3%5D=&scale=20&graphType=0&buttonSelection=Update+Graph

>>59215367
>HD598 to HD600

>comfort
First day, headache + ears hurt.
Second day, no headache, ears still hurt.

I'm on my second week now. It doesn't hurt anymore and they almost feel comfortable. I'm told that, given enough time, they are even more comfortable than HD598. I do however have my doubts.

>sound

Tested them as soon as I got home from work (18h). Was odd for just a few minutes. Once I adjusted to the new sound signature, my jaw dropped, and I was listening to one track after another.

Then, I suddenly realized it was 3am and I still hadn't even had dinner.

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what are the best in ear headphones to get for around 30$?

>>59215547
Xiaomi Piston 3.

>>59215391
Interesting. Hasn't much swayed me in one direction or the other.

The deal is that I'm on a fiio e10 (original, not k), with 518s. I've used 598s and know they're slightly more comfortable than the 518s and otherwise better in general I just hate upgrading when I'm still satisfied with a thing. The pads on the 518s are on the cusp of falling apart and replacing them would be a bad investment at this point, so the upgrade path in my head right now is jotunheim (w/ dac), followed by HD650s, possibly followed by a balanced cable, and then I should be good for a pretty long while.

>>59215561
thankss my man

So I'm looking for some portable headphones to use for travel.

>Budget
<100 €
>Location
Germany
>Source
MP3-Player
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Negotiable
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Koss PortaPro

I spend several hours of each weekend on the train and want some decently sounding and isolating headphones that ideally aren't too clunky, perhaps even foldable. I'm fine with the way the PortaPros sound, but once I share a compartment with some jolly tour group, listening to music or podcasts becomes a chore.
Can you guys recommend me anything that fits the bill?

Any of you niggaz tried the 1MORE Triple Driver headphones?

Been using them for a couple of weeks now and I must admit they are best headphones I've ever used. Sound is better than $500+ headphones I've used in the past

https://usa.1more.com/collections/headphones/products/triple-driver-in-ear-headphones

>>59215601
>>59215561
NO

I have owned Pistons for a v long time and honestly loved it to bits.

However, in the 2 years since the headphone was introduced, smaller Chinese manufacturers have caught up and exceeded the Pistons in price and quality.

Here are my top 3 recommendations:

URBANFUNS: http://www.head-fi.org/products/gemtune-urbanfun-hifi-dual-driver-in-ear-headphones-hybrid-balanced-armature-dynamic-earbuds/reviews/17026

Vivo XE 800s: http://www.head-fi.org/t/726119/review-vivo-xplay-3s-xe800-mobile-audio-perfection/630

Sonic V4: http://www.head-fi.org/products/new-arrival-somic-v4-double-moving-coil-in-ear-earphones/reviews/16609

These are all 19-24 AUD on aliexpress.

The pistons were a great introduction into budget IEMS but new products beat it in every category except design.

Additional info about the URBANFUNs and Somics are here: https://audiobudget.com/leaderboard.php

>>59215352
>However, it _is_ slightly warm if compared to HD600. But that's just because HD600 is extremely neutral.

you're fucking retarded, there's no such thing as "extremely neutral" there is just neutral.
as such, things that are warmer than neutral have a bass boost, no matter how small
notice how he said "some warmth" and not "nigger tier bass"

>>59215112
>Neither in my experience nor in the frequency response measurements is HD598 warm.

The fuck are you smoking? Sure, subjectively you may not find them warm but every god damn measurement does, especially for the 5XX series. Do you not see the upper bass lower mids hump on pretty much every 5XX headphone, and the 600/650? Its visible on all measurement sources too.

>>59216152
>The fuck are you smoking? Sure, subjectively you may not find them warm but every god damn measurement does, especially for the 5XX series.

Christ.

http://graphs.headphone.com/index.php?graphID%5B0%5D=573&graphID%5B1%5D=2851&graphID%5B2%5D=&graphID%5B3%5D=&scale=20&graphType=0&buttonSelection=Update+Graph

There is a **slight** difference. HD598 is warmer than HD600.

But we're talking 0~2 dB!

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HD600 vs HD650

PICK ONE

>>59215726
As far as isolation goes, IEM are better than full sized headphones. They're also infinitely more portable.

Anyway, best closed foldable headphones under 100€
>Sony MDR7506
>Audio Technica ATH-M40x
>Status Audio CB-1

>>59216916
HD600 obv.

HD650 looks riffraff signature.

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>>59215367
>Thinking about getting HD650 (can't handle the 600 marble pattern)
>(can't handle the 600 marble pattern)

Don't let something like that influence your decision. It only looks bad in the over-exposed pictures people take of it. I've heard of people customizing their HD 600s before. If the color/pattern bothers you that much, you could paint them or replace the plastic or something. I've seen an HD 600 on ebay before that had all of the external parts replaced with parts from an HD 650.

You won't even see what it looks like while you're wearing it though, anyway.

>>59216959

Thanks, Anon. I tried in-ears before but thought they felt weird to wear. It's probably just a matter of getting used to them, but I'm still more comfortable with regular headphones.

>>59217207
Damn, both look pretty.

I have HD600, but now I want HD650 too!

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>>59213986
Anyone here have AD1000x or AD2000x?

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Thank you for everyone that recommended me to buy HD 558 the other day. Got it today and the over ear design is orgasmic to wear.

I was wondering though if the foam mod is worth doing. I've done some googling and there's a lot of people saying it's not worth it.

>>59217216
As long as IEM are not painfully uncomfortable, and they perform well, you can look over the weird feel they give you. Personally, I bought the Etymotic Research hf5 because I wanted portability and extreme isolation (basically your same requirements), and they deliver, so although it still feels weird having ear dildos in my ears I'm still happy since they REALLY isolate, and have amazing sound.

>>59214092
>it's being compared to the audeze lcd2
It reeks of being a knockoff LCD series headphone, so sure.
Monoprice's finishing on the M1060 is rougher than Audeze's, but Audeze's products can be pretty shoddily made.

>>59216888
They all have a boost beyond DF target. Distinctly more emphasis from 100-300 Hz than something like LCD4, which is flatter there.

>>59214147
Good linearity, highly stable frequency response with leak and position, large padding and spacing for comfort, and a solid construction (mostly). More than can be said for some other manufacturers "high-end".
The natural response is more V-shaped than what I would prefer, but we can EQ that, and it's one the best EQ sets period. Worrying about trivially invertible functions gets boring and stale fast. Of course, audiophiles don't know how to multiply or divide.

>>59206607
VAT and import costs probably

>>59217400
hd650 is shit compared to hd600

>>59217978
Different, probably.

Shit, I doubt it. Unless you're expecting neutral...

I own HD600 and am pretty happy, but I wouldn't say no to a free HD650.

>>59217978
>Shit
>Sound is subjective

What's a good small equalizer?

Talk me out of buying a pair of Philips X2

>>59218451
X2 are extremely comfortable, and eith an extremely high build quality, from the headband to the cable, which by the way is detachable and uses a standard jack without proprietary locking mechanisms.

They're not flat though. They have a very enjoyable V-shape, so if you're like the majority of the population you'll love them, however if you're an audiofaggot you'll hate them with a passion because MUH NEUTRAL MEME.

>>59218383
What do you mean by small? Parametric EQ is usually done digitally these days.
Do you want a small external unit to do equalization.

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Just got my Fiio E10k. Holy shit this thing is tiny! I was afraid this was gonna be a huge chunk of metal sitting on my desk and how I was gonna have trouble taking it with me when I take my laptop with me but this thing is so small that it's easy to move around. Volume knob is metal too.

It sounds great and can power HD600 just fine. Def the best deal for AMP/DAC.

i'm looking at a pair of beyer custom streets for that "beat me up and steal these" aesthetic and the detachable cable. is there anything better in that price range that can be driven by a phone and don't blast my audio autism out to the plebians?

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>>59209764
My nigger.
You got these with the "Fazors" or not?

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>>59218597

I just bought a Little Dot Mk1+. Driving a new pair of MDR-CD900ST.

Pretty awesome, though only a minor improvement. It is using the cheap ass Chinese tubes though, ordered some good ones, can't wait to try them soon.

>>59218597
It's decent, but it's no fulla 2.

>>59218542
Yeah a small hardware eq that can fit on the desk without taking up a lot of room like a 1u rack mount would. Preferably 7 band.

>>59218787
>Little Dot Mk1+
Yikes. it's like 2.5x as expensive. Also, why a tube amp? They create heat, fragile and introduce distortions.

>>59218801
I dislike Schiit. They charge a ton for few parts. They're too much audiophoolery for me. Plus E10k was $30 cheaper.

>>59218888
>it's like 2.5x as expensive.

The Fiio E10k is $10 more expensive here actually.

>Also, why a tube amp? They create heat, fragile and introduce distortions.

I read quite a lot about "rolling" different tubes and wanted to try it.

It is hooked up to my desktop and wont be moving so heat/fragility isn't an issue.

>>59218888
>I dislike Schiit. They charge a ton for few parts. They're too much audiophoolery for me. Plus E10k was $30 cheaper.
The advantages over the E10K is that the Fulla 2 not only offers more power but more importantly it can also adjust the volume from the line out if you ever want to connect powered speakers. Very handy

>>59218888
>Plus E10k was $30 cheaper.
Maybe it is, somewhere.

>>59218940
And furthermore, it has no inputs other than the USB, therefore it can't be used as an AMP only.

Fulla2 can be used as amp only (line-in), as dac only (line-out), and as volume knob (separate line-out with volume).

>>59218888
>I dislike Schiit. They charge a ton for few parts

Complexity is nice, eh? Why a reliable 112 part device, when you could have a nice and complex 4213 part unreliable mess?

to the anon who recommended the Fulla2 and K612PRO combo for gaming is a god, Thanks friendo

>>59218921
I watched techmoan's reviews of chinese tube amps and decided to stay the fuck away from them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22kx0q5j-JA

I really don't want tube amp warmth in music I listen to. I tried few EQ settings that approximate tube amps and I don't think this is what I want.

>>59218940
>The advantages over the E10K is that the Fulla 2 not only offers more power but more importantly it can also adjust the volume from the line out if you ever want to connect powered speakers. Very handy
I have no use for line-out. I don't have speakers... well, I do have them on my 4K monitor but that goes over HDMI. I just wanted a cheap & good headphone amp.

>>59219004
>Maybe it is, somewhere.
E10k was ~$65 shipping included and no tax. Fulla2 was $100+shipping+tax last time I checked... it might even be $40-50 more expensive.

>>59219045
>I watched techmoan's reviews of chinese tube amps and decided to stay the fuck away from them

I read a lot of reviews about the little dot before I went with it, and it seems to be a pretty solid device. Being able to change opamp and tubes kinda sold me on it.

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>>59219022
>Complexity is nice, eh? Why a reliable 112 part device, when you could have a nice and complex 4213 part unreliable mess?
I've looked at pictures of their boards. They have them on their site. There's like $15 worth of electronic components BOM. Their board dimensions are so fucking huge compared to the amount of components they have on the board. rest is just empty space so they can slap them into huge cases... so they can justify high prices.

>>59219045
>E10k was ~$65 shipping included and no tax

And wow, the little dot was $130. The E10k is $140 here.

>https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01FX2SLCS/

>>59219123
Yikes! Why is everything so much more expensive in Japan??

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>>59219090

I made a radio kit more complicated than that.

>>59219045
>I have no use for line-out.

Here I'm using the line-in.

Phone's headphone jack -> Fulla2 -> headphones.

Being able to use it as just an amp and not forcibly dac+amp is a godsend.

>>59219177

If it isn't sold in Japan domestically, you are fucked by import costs.

>>59219090
So you're saying they actually measure bad for their price?

Or it's just you hate simple boards mounted in metal chassis that double as heatsinks?

I'm curious. By all means let us know of alternatives if it's the former.

>>59219203
Very nice. I've been trying to find an AMP/DAC combo DIY kit but was unable to find one. All I found was O2 amp for ~$100... which was unreasonable to me.

>>59219221
if you buy from ebay from chinese sellers, they mark everything as "gift". I've never paid import duty for any small package.

>>59219308
>Or it's just you hate simple boards mounted in metal chassis that double as heatsinks?
Those "heatsinks" are 10x larger than they need to be. It's clear to me that they make their products large to make them look more impressive. Why else would you make such sparsely populated boards that go into huge cases?

Look at their Wyrd for an example of snake oil and bullshit design.

>>59219327
>Look at their Wyrd for an example of snake oil and bullshit design.

While I don't think I need one... I have no reason to doubt it does what it is supposed to do. As for its case... it seems it's nearly identical to other stuff they make (magni/modi/sys/etc), which likely saves costs.

Their cases do look expensive, they actually are not. Wyrd probably doesn't need the case for cooling, but magni2 definitely does.

I wonder if people think HD600 sounds veiled because the center of the driver is not aimed at their ear canals.

>>59218676
bump! i'd love an answer because /g/ is my dad and i'm getting married to consumer electronics

>>59219327
>if you buy from ebay from chinese sellers, they mark everything as "gift". I've never paid import duty for any small package


I did a fuckton of that, but i have been charged tax the last three things I bought.

>>59219045
>E10k was ~$65 shipping included and no tax.
where from?

>>59219373
I have this suspicion that when they say "veiled" they just mean they're not getting a +20dB boost to the midrange as they're used to, coming from garbage headphones.

HD600 and other "neutral" headphones may take a while to get used to. IMO worth it, YMMV.

>>59219030
Your welcome (:

>>59218844
miniDSP 2x4/2x4 HD can fit. It does has the annoying property of requiring another computer to set up.
Unfortunately, I can't recall any other small external PEQ unit right now.

>>59219373
>the center of the driver is not aimed at their ear canals
Those effects can be seen very easily in the modulus.
Treble dips and boosted upper bass/low mid are more relevant issues.

>>59219045
>I tried few EQ settings that approximate tube amps and I don't think this is what I want.
Not that straightforward to emulate amplifier effects. And another thing, tube amplifiers don't have to have significant coloration.

As much as I love my OnePlus 2. The audio amp is absolutly abysmal.

Is there any known usb DAC that works with the OnePlus 2? I want to upgrade the sound quality since i have expensive headphones.

>>59219627
OP3, fulla2 and HD380 Pro here, very satisfactory.

deresute/llsif use. I do not use it as DAC (just OP3 line out -> fulla2 line in), but the dac is nice @ computer. It has a separate usb port for power, in case you don't want to power it with the OP3.

>>59219696
I really need an USB DAC, there is just too much static hiss and noise in my phone. I was thinking of maybe switching it for an LG V20 as well (theyre kinda cheap now) as the OP2 is supposdly not kind on external usb dacs.

>>59219904
Yes, it can be used as a USB DAC, with the proper OTG cable.

I'm just saying I don't do it. The reason is that latency is always different with internal and external dac, and as I play llsif/deresute in different locations, I'd have to adjust latency offset at least a couple of times per day... annoying.

>>59199056
Schiit is a fucking awful company. No surprise there.
I just wish they would stop astroturfing every single heapdhones community

>>59217580
Might as well try it out if you're not extremely hamfisted. It's super easy and completely reversible.

>>59219627
I assume you want to take it outside, so your best option is something with a battery like a Fiio Q1. I own one and it works great.
You should look in the forums for compatibility, but it's almost guaranteed to work.
Your best bet is probably buying a V20 as you said, or an iPhone 6 if you're into that. You might even get by with something cheaper depending on what you're trying to drive. I have a Fiio X3ii and a moto g4. With my consumer grade headphones (RHA MA750i, Momentum 2 over ear, Momentum 2 in-ear) I can't hear a difference between the X3 and the g4.
Carrying around a phone with a DAC/amp taped to it isn't the best solution desu.
>>59219934
You sound autistic.

>>59220611
>>59199056

>Schiit is a fucking awful company. No surprise there.
>I just wish they would stop astroturfing every single heapdhones community
>http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/07/banned-at-head-fi.html

There's also the schiit side to the story (chapter 12):

http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up

>>59220683
>I assume you want to take it outside, so your best option is something with a battery like a Fiio Q1. I own one and it works great.

A battery is nice. But so is USB power (fulla2) :)

>>59217580
I'd personally enjoy them as they are, and maybe just get some HD600 if I felt like an upgrade, but not immediately, as that'd result in neither benefiting from the HD558 nor appreciating the upgrade.

>>59220745
Thank you for your valuable input schiit shill.

>>59219327
> Look at their Wyrd for an example of snake oil and bullshit design.

Well, here's their explanation.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up/3810#post_11058782

Don't need one, don't get one. But if I needed such a thing (unlikely), I'd sooner get a Schiit Wyrd than some other shit.

>>59220777
Fiio is good if you like cheap chink shit.

I don't mind paying slightly more for a well-built product somebody is actually getting paid a reasonable fee to make, rather than some crap made in china by some kid that's given some candy money for working a 100h week.

>>59220846
I'm sure you have a lot of fun dragging your Fulla® 2© by Schiit® taped to your phone.
Three ruppes have been deposited in your account. Buy yourself a nice dinner tonight rajees.

>>59220846
Schiit crap is objectively pretty good for the price.

It's just fulla2 and maybe magni2 are worth getting at all.

Their more expensive shit won't actually sound any better even if it measures so (pointlessly), but there's a market for that sort of thing. I can't blame them for collecting money from it.

>>59220889
>I'm sure you have a lot of fun dragging your Fulla® 2© by Schiit® taped to your phone.

I use mine on a desk at work. It's very pocket-able, but not quite designed to use on the go.

>>59220953
Which is why the fucking guy wants. He asked for something for his PHONE
You're recommending desktop shit because you get paid to do so.
Just stop posting.

>>59219627
HifiMe TinyDAC

Don't get jewed by Fiio or Schiit, they've got more bling and frills, but are no better in actual audio quality.

>>59220972
>HifiMe TinyDAC
I actually meant Android DAC. But still.

>>59220813
> But, he also brought a lot of absolutism to the fore, like the oft-stated idea that an amp (or DAC) with good measurements is audibly transparent, and cannot be improved upon. The “us vs them” mentality of objective and subjective, audiophile and engineer—the objective-subjective divide widened considerably during, and after, NwAvGuy.
Really gets the neurons all fired up sending small electric impulses across the several brain regions in reaction to external stimuli don't it

>>59220969
>Which is why the fucking guy wants. He asked for something for his PHONE

Hey, I use it with my phone. Just on a desk.

>Just stop posting.

Sure, I've had enough of this shit, and it's not like I get paid for it.

Regarding schiit, I guess we can agree to disagree. You can enjoy your chink shit, while I'll continue to enjoy my murikan schiit. Life is good :-)

>>59221041
Well considering Schiit is a company that survives on Audiofool buzzwords like "military and medical grade DAC" and the premium tax those components carry with them, I'm sure they're extremely against objective measurements and ABX tests.
It's better because it costs more after all isn't it.

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Sup /g/uys, looking for some headphones as a gift. Most important feature is noise cancelling.

>Budget
€200-300 (semi hard)
>Location
Germoney
>Source
Laptop, smartphone
>Type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy af
>Past headphones
Shitty in ears I guess

>>59221041
>http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up/765#post_10463052
>>But, he also brought a lot of absolutism to the fore, like the oft-stated idea that an amp (or DAC) with good measurements is audibly transparent, and cannot be improved upon. The “us vs them” mentality of objective and subjective, audiophile and engineer—the objective-subjective divide widened considerably during, and after, NwAvGuy.

>Really gets the neurons all fired up sending small electric impulses across the several brain regions in reaction to external stimuli don't it

I find his prose quite amusing, and you might think he's off the subjective far end and their products are shit, but then again...

> Our philosophy is that we want to make fun, affordable products that are as true to the musical source as possible.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up/1185#post_10605619

>>59221077
Huh, I don't think that's what they do.

Else they'd be asking for far higher prices, like everybody else in that business does. You know, more expensive means better.

Go to
>>59221183

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>>59221203

>>59221244
Schiit's sense of humor.

Do you need an 21bit DAC for fucking audio? Chances are you don't. But try getting one that cheap from elsewhere than schiit :P

Their lower-end products are overkill and competitively priced. You can pay more for something like this, but it's pointless.

>>59221244
Is this entire company just a big meme?

>>59199056
>nwavguy

Why did everyone listen to him again? You all know that he did that shit to get people to buy his O2 and ODAC shit right? He gets a cut everytime JDS Labs sells his design.

>>59221393
Nothing wrong with that. Both the O2 and the ODAC are quality products and no one can deny that

>>59221534
So is the shit ;)

Even their high end... there's people who do like huge furnace amps and dacs, just because they look and feel good. The audiophile world is crazy. At least they're getting some fun unconventional designs that still sound and measure good, rather than a cheap amp in a huge case, as some $100k audiophile products are.

There's also those that will buy their cheap products just because the expensive ones do exist, and otherwise wouldn't. Yeah, I know...

Just keep in mind the founder does also own a pretty successful marketing company, when questioning whether what they're doing is clever or not.

I like the O2/ODAC because it's open hardware and does perform (does sound and measure) well enough. Perhaps it's worth paying more for the O2/ODAC, even if it's less powerful and worse measuring than the cheaper schiit crap. Or perhaps performance/cost matters more to you than open hardware.

Both are fine options.

>>59221328
>need an 21bit DAC
If only Schiit would sell one...
>But try getting one that cheap from elsewhere than schiit
Benchmark DAC2, just a little bit lower priced.

>>59221393
>He gets a cut everytime JDS Labs sells his design.
I don't believe you.
Brushing aside the fact that his design is open, JDS Labs isn't the sole distributor of parts.

>>59221725
>worse measuring
Do tell.

>>59221811
>Benchmark DAC2

https://benchmarkmedia.com/products/benchmark-dac2-hgc-digital-to-analog-audio-converter

... yeah. Here's the problem: It isn't a huge furnace-style device. With the remote control it does even look cheap.

>>59221725
>Even their high end... there's people who do like huge furnace amps and dacs, just because they look and feel good. The audiophile world is crazy. At least they're getting some fun unconventional designs that still sound and measure good, rather than a cheap amp in a huge case, as some $100k audiophile products are.

Exactly.

>>59221811
>>worse measuring
>Do tell.

https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,108489.0.html

(a much better forum than head-fi, if you're not into magical stones that improve the sound if placed just right, on top of the amp or dac)

As far as I can tell, shitstack doesn't actually measure worse in a practical (hearable sense).

But they do have higher specs (power), so they can drive more headphones. Particularly useful if you're into what's likely meme tech (planar magnetic drivers...).

>>59221981
I know what HA is. HA doesn't discuss audio gear very much compared to most audio sites, and most regulars don't need to.

>fun unconventional designs that still sound and measure good
The Magni 2 and Modi 2 are not popular measurement subjects, From the data I did have on it, it comes out as worse than the O2/ODAC, maximum voltage and current limits excluded.
O2 and ODAC have their own design idiosyncrasies.

Sometimes, those differences mean something (e.g. noise floor). Usually, they don't.
They usually sound fine. Schiit's measurements in general less so.

>what's likely meme tech (planar magnetic drivers...)
You really don't get it.

>>59222684
>>what's likely meme tech (planar magnetic drivers...)
>You really don't get it.

Tell me more.

>Budget
150-200€
>Location
EU
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter, better quality of sound
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter
>Sound signature
/
>Past headphones
Never owned any decent headphones over 50€

Also

>Budget
0-50€
>Location
EU
>Source
Phone, or mp3 player
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter

Plebbit O2/ODAC vs Schiit Stack.

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/4g0n2n/o2_vs_schiit_uber_stack_finally_abing/

>>59215112
Pls respond

here one or nuheara?

>>59223187
>most upvoted comment is someone saying sighted testing is worthless
Looks like reddit is better than neo-/hpg/.

>>59223391
There's no need to ABX, it sounds clearly better, I tell you!

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What's the alternative to the discontinued XTY microphone that was on the wiki page?

>>59222949
>Doesn't matter, better quality of sound

Open. Closed is a compromise for the isolation.

>150-200€

Sennheiser HD598se
DT880 Premium

>>Comfort level
>Doesn't matter

I tried not to list torture devices regardless.

>>59223567
Where do I get new hd598se in europe though? All I see are used, or not in stock.

Also, any recommendation on IEMs?

>Budget
10$-100$

>Location
US

>Source
Phone, Bluetooth. ( I broke my phone and can only use Bluetooth.

>Type of headphone
Full size, over ear

>Open or closed
Open preferred, closed welcome

>Comfort level
High preferred. Doesn't matter too much though.

>>59223629
amazon.fr was selling them at 99€ weeks ago.

Try .de, .co.uk, .es and so on.

Amazon tracking sites like camel^3 might be helpful.

>>59223629
>Also, any recommendation on IEMs?

I hear the name "xiaomi piston 3" getting thrown around a lot.

>>59223391
>neo-/hpg/.
The difference between old and new is?

>>59223825
>>59223840
Is there a difference between the SE and the regular ones other than the color?

>>59223995
Price. Extra cable bundled in se version.

does anyone have this
https://www.cnet.com/products/here-one/review/

is it any good?

Does anyone know a good DAC + AMP for my SHP9500S? My motherboard isn't cutting it anymore and I would like to invest in a good DAC + AMP for my current and future headphones.

>>59224200
O2+ODAC

>>59224200
>My motherboard isn't cutting it anymore
>anymore

What?

>>59224248
Recently, there has been a bunch of static; even at lower volumes.

>>59224268
Ah. I thought it had gone down in sound quality or some bullshit like that.

You don't need to spend more than an E10K for the SHP9500 or even an HD650

>>59224279
>>59224279
>>59224279

>>59224200
E10K or Fulla 2 should work just fine. If you're going full on "muh future proof", go with something retarded like a schiit stack.

>>59224303
Fulla 2 is already future proof

>>59224238
>>59224248
>>59224268
>>59224289
>>59224303
Thank you, anons. I feel like going with the E10K as they're the cheapest here in Canada. Is there any reason to get the more expensive options such as the Fulla 2 or >>59224238 other than power? Anything above mid-fi headphones here are too expensive anyway.

>>59198977
This is an SOS to the bro who helped me ad bass to my 600's a few weeks back. I fucked up and lost everything. If you're there please give me the specs to add again.

>>59224444
> Reasons for Fulla 2 over e10k

Power -> but you knew already
Separate jack for USB power -> Can use as USB DAC for something that can't power it, if powered separately.
Line-in -> can act as amp-only
Line-out with and without volume -> can act as dac only, and even as volume knob only.
Huge pleasant volume knob -> the main seller!
Made in America vs China (matters to some people)

> e10k over fulla2
bass boost switch

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So i got the superlux hd681. And of course i also got some k240 velour pads.

The pads seem to be the right size, but the part that goes over the headphones... the hole is too small and i can't get them on over the bloody things.
Am i too stupid to do something like this? Or did i fuck up? Any way arround it or do i just need to order a new pair of chink pads?

>>59224633
Thanks

Anyone tried these?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AXVURFY/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=B00AXVURFY&linkCode=as2&tag=thedaionl-21
Wondering if the noise cancellation is as good as the Bose ones that costs x10 as much.

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>>59224638
K240's definitely fit on them. Start stretching and it'll go over. Pic is my 668B's with K240 Velours.

>>59198977
https://aiaiai.dk/configurator

Could it be wise to do one of these instead of just getting an m40x? Obviously this is for a mobile build.

>>59224633
The E10k doesn't have a line in?
Even my cheapo Q1 has a line in and can act as both DAC/amp or just amp.

I literally just found out today, after years of using apple earbuds, that you are supposed to put those rubber/silicone things IN YOUR EAR CANAL. This is because when I was still a kid, I got some random pop IEMs and the ear tip was absolute shit- it would just fall out if I tried to stick it up my ear. I still own them and tried holding them up my ears while listening to music. Holy shit, all this time, I never understood why people were buying in ear headphones (not realizing that in ear actually meant in your ear canal).

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>>59224796
Hey, you're right. Stretching and bruteforcing it a bit did the trick. One got a couple rips, but they're minute and i dont think it will affect anything.