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>Headphone purchase advice http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

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>Headphone purchase advice
http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

Please put some effort into your requests and questions.

If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Previous thread: >>59198977
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>>59224279
It has come to my attention that my shilling has caused great anger amongst the Sennheiser shills. I am deeply sorry this had to happen, and as a result of my actions, I am proud to announce my departure of shilling 9500S' in order to start shilling HD 600s instead.

As such, I present to you, the best headphones money can buy for under $1,000; only beaten by the HD 800S' themselves. These $300 sets compete against $2,000 headphones as seen in the link to the Head-Fi review below. There is no reason to buy these over what you're currently planning on buying, as these headphones will beat those 10/10 times. I am sorry it had to come to this conclusion, but I am only here to spread the truth. The Head-Fi link is seen below, happily introduced to me by a Sennheiser shill I was arguing with a few generals ago. If only I had known this, I would have stopped.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared#user_JH13
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Best headphones under $50 USD
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>>59224279
I currently own AKG K512 MKii and an shitty tier external mic. Both are starting to die and the AKG in particular is in pretty bad shape.

I want to buy headphones with mic included for portability reasons. Are the Hyper X Cloud a gaming meme or actually good? I can't trust youtube reviews because of previous experiences.
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>>59224372
Soundmagic PL50?
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>>59224372
fag or a frill? lol... why am I even asking... 99% chance you're a fag.
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>>59224372
Good evening.
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>>59224372
Good evening /hpg/.
Sold one of my headphones today, should everything go according to plan i will be selling the others soon.
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Where can I get hd598 se's in Europe for the regular price? I can buy them from the US, but I pay roughly 50$ for import tax.
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>>59224279
Thanks for anime
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>Budget
600-800€, less is preferable

>Location
France

>Source
PC/PS3

>Shit I need
Amp+speakers (+sub-woofer if needed)

>Sound signature
Neutral I suppose? I like my ATH-M40X.
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>>59224511
why? getting out of the hobby? tell me which are available and prices...
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>>59224798
>consumerism as a hobby
LOL
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>>59224883
listening to music is not a hobby? and how the fuck are you gonna listen to music without "consumerism"?
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>>59224798
>getting out of the hobby?
Not really, i still love headphones and audio, but i was cleaning my headphones and thinking of how much dust they gather when i came to the conclusion that the only headphone i rarely have to dust is the DT880, simply because it's the one i listen to 95% of the time.
So i've decided to sell the ones i don't listen that much, in good time too, my oldest headphone was a k414p and the leather was crumbling to pieces, sold it today to a friend who dosn't seem to care about the pads. Besides, they are not bad headphones, i guess it's better that they are with people who enjoy them more than i currently do.

Gonna sell all but the DT880 and the V6, not sure how much they will cost in dolars, would have to convert the value, will probably just sell them in some brazilian forum.
Why do you ask though? looking for an upgrade?
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>>59225054
>Why do you ask though?
just wondering why you'd sell them all.

>looking for an upgrade?
nahh... my V6 are perfect for me. went through dozens of phones and settled on V6 over the years. couldn't make me switch if you paid me. about the only ones I can stomach are senn HD6x0 series. I have no interest in any other phone.
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>>59224971
>>>/mu/
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>>59225258
>>>/plebbit/
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>>59224279
For anyone who has the Klipsch r6 how would you describe their sound signature? Because I find these incredibly boring listening to and I want to avoid other earphones with a similar sound.
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>>59224511
How are the Fidelio L2's?
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>>59225278
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/4g0n2n/o2_vs_schiit_uber_stack_finally_abing/d2dp7uf/

r*ddit > /hpg/
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>>59225513
so why are you here, retard? why don't you go back to that shithole and enjoy the "intelligent" circlejerking that goes on there? just fuck off and die.
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>>59225513
And I bet you believe everything Head-Fi says.
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>~$100
>East coast US
>Nexus 6P
>IEM
>Earpods
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>>59225629
i'll stay here an enjoy the "unintelligent" circlejerk
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This might be a longshot, but do you guys know anything about car speakers? That ones that came with my car is your typical too much bass trash speakers and sound AWFUL with the music I listen to (mostly weeb trash).
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>>59226238
it could be the speakers that are trash, or more likely the receiver/player is EQ'ed to cater to nigger bass.

I'd change the receiver. it might even have an option for custom EQ. what type is it?
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>>59225775
>>~$100
>>IEM
kek'd. IEMs over $20 are a waste of money. Get Piston Hybrids and call it a day. save the rest and buy headphones.

http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Original-Xiaomi-Mi-IV-In-ear-Earphone-Dual-Dynamic-Driver-Wired-Control-Headphone-with-MIC-for-Android-iOS---Silver-357663.html
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>>59226791
No, they're not. I spent years buying cheap shit and the first expensive iems I bought for $150 I heard a huge difference in sq. There is a huge difference in sq between cheap and expensive iems.
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>>59224516
check amazon .de .es .fr .uk etc
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>>59224387
Afaik, they're a rebranded/badged Takstar Pro 80 with the addition of a mic. There's plenty of information about them if you do a search on the Pro 80. I have never had experience with either the headphone or the headset, so I can't give you much more info.
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>>59224387
They're pretty good.
Sound is v-shaped, good bass for the booms, soundstage/imaging isn't incredible.
For the price they're good, although you might be able to do better with headphones and a boom pro.

The comfort is medium I'd say, and I have to expand all the way, so bigger heads may not be compatible.
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is turning a raspi into a DAC good for the price or just a meme?

I wanna get a good DAC but I'm poor, I have a raspi tho.
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>>59225775
1more triple driver for v shaped, shure 215 for bass and rolled off treble, rha ma750.
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>>59227405
Pretty sure your phone's DAC is far superior to whatever a Raspi has
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>>59224372
Salutations.
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>>59227983
I meant the DACs you buy as an accessory for the pi, not the one it has built-in. But yeah maybe those aren't that good either
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>>59225643
>And I bet you believe everything Head-Fi says.
Reasons not to?
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>>59228701
>Believing in magical cable tech

Only reason you need :^)
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>>59228730
huh?
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HD6XX or K7XX ?

I have a Xonar STX
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>>59228730
The burn-in meme is pretty bad too.
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Please help. Vivo XE800s or the Piston 3s for someone who primarily listens to hip hop/rap/etc.
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>>59228793
I'm actually new, so thanks for giving a reason.
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>>59228787
6XX if you want a warm signature, 7XX if you want neutral. Good luck waiting for the 6XX to drop again though, if ever. You'd be better off getting 650's.
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>>59228783
They believe in $100+ cables noticeably affecting sound quality. If I lurk there for long enough, i'm willing to believe some of them believe in magic audio rocks too.
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Got these, pretty disappointing
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>>59228958
>>59228809
:)
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>>59228950
>Calling K7XX Neutral
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Any good closed ear bluetooth headphones on a low budget of $30? I just want them for use at the gym, didn't find much on info on Bluetooth headphones on the wiki.
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>>59228950
>6XX if you want a warm signature
kek'd

>7XX if you want neutral
you're stupid.

and you're fucking retarded for recommending Massdrop garbage since it cannot be easily obtained and will never be worth as much as real phones on the secondary market.

ps: lurk moar and don't give people advice because you don't know anything.
pps: and fucking save some of those autism bux so you can buy some of these cans and actually listen to them.
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>>59228799
Pls
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>>59224279
I've been eyeing the 800S since it came out and I'm waiting for it to drop in price (I missed the $500 sale)

Would you guys consider it to be a good upgrade from the 650s? Unfortunately I can't try them before I buy them
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>>59229152
But I said to get 650's. Funny how you call people retarded but you're so blinded by asspain that you can't read.
>pps: and fucking save some of those autism bux so you can buy some of these cans and actually listen to them.
I have 650's, maybe you should go get your ears checked if you don't think the treble is recessed at all.
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>>59225238
I can see why someone would settle for the v6, it's really good and will probably last for as long as you have them, mine is around five years old and all i had to do so far was changing the pads one for sheep skin ones and recently adding a little WD40 to the metal hinges, still sounds like new.
>>59225501
I like it, it's pretty warm but not muddy, for a semi-open it really got some thump. built quality is not bad at all, although i do preffer removable pads. Speaking of pads, they are really comfortable, i wish more headphones had pads like that, only problem is that the headband is not as balanced and creates a pressure point on the top of the head which can hurt after some time.
Oh, and the detachable cable can be replaced by V-moda ones, that's always a plus on my book.
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I'm looking for something similar to a X2, also with a removable 3.5mm cable, but closed, around $200. How is the V-MODA Crossfade M-100? Looking for sound isolation and portability.
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Is there a better v-shaped sounding headphone under $100 US than the MDR-7506?
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>>59226238
Stock speakers are usually shit. Adjust the EQ first. Then replace the speakers, Then replace the head unit.

Sony and Kenwood are good brands.
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Hi /g/, I guess this is the right place where to ask, since usually 4chan cuts through the bullshit:
I lately wandered through various forums, youtube channels, and other internet pages looking for more insight into the world of headphones; while I found many interesting things, like the frequency response charts and other objective way of telling a good product from a bad one, I also came across a lot of jargon that I still can't understand, and I was wondering if you could help me out with it: many times I've found reviewers saying that the sound and/or the headphones and/or a particular frequency range was
>sharp
>fast
>accurate
>muddy
>bloated
>recessed
and so on and so forth. I still can't understand what they physically refer to, what's their meaning.
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>>59217625

I don't even know whether this reply will work, but what the hell.

Thanks for the advice. Now that I think about it, I've actually started using earplugs for sleeping since the last time I tried IEMs, and I guess the feeling isn't all that different. So I'll have a look around some recommendation lists and give in-ears a try.
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>>59231336
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=describing+sound&ia=web
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>>59231953
I've found this:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/220770/describing-sound-a-glossary
This is total insanity.
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>Budget
max 60$
>Location
Poland
>Source
LG G2
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
over the ear preferred, with ear hooks from my soundmagics
>Past headphones
SoundMagic PL30 and E30 (died yesterday)
I would buy another E30, but they're out of stock.
So I'm thinking SoundMagic E10, maybe E10C with microphone and controls, E50, PL50,
Brainwavz M1 or Vsonic VSD2S.
Can E10/50 be comfortably used over the ear?
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So what's the benefit of using balanced cables?
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>>59232391
Easier to set a custom EQ profile.
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>>59232391
Lower risk of interference on low cable runs.
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>>59231336
>>59232180
Unless you know what you're looking for you don't really need to know much of it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZU7sgKQFQ4

I've been having nightmares about this video for weeks. Why does he talk like that? It's like the gears are grinding inside his head.
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>>59227183
Are there any trackers that track the price of all those sites? I can usually find only ones that track of .com.
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>>59232588
I don't mind his voice but the mic is atrocious
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I'm looking for new headphones that don't rest on on the top of your head.

I mean that don't make contact with your hair...as I've been losing hair in the exact spot my current headphones have been sitting for years. I really love my current Sony MDR V6 but I don't want to be fucking bald.

Suggestions? All other considerations like price are flexible, I just don't want them to touch my hair and of course sound decent.
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looking for some small on-ear (not in-ear) headphones for work, bluetooth prefered
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>>59232646
...Speakers?...
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>>59228962
I'm sad for you, wishing you all the best, Anon.
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>>59232661
Not an option, live in an apartment, have room-mates, etc...
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>>59232646
Anyone as can identify these?
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>>59231336
>jargon
This is never ending, glossary made on a whim.
>I still can't understand what they physically refer to, what's their meaning.
All of them are descriptions of the frequency response. To break these down as well as I can:

>sharp
Upper midrange emphasis from 1 KHz and up. Sometimes confused with piercing which refers to high treble emphasis around 10 KHz.
>fast
This is a funny one. It's often used to describe bass response which lacks lowest octaves and is neutral above it or "house sound" of Grados/Stax. It has nothing to do with physical speed at all. Physical speed is already given by the frequency/impulse response and "speed" of the bass is by definition slow(low frequency).
>accurate
Accuracy requires a target. While a sound can definitely be accurate given a target, "accurate" isn't a specific type of sound on its own. Generally speaking something accurate tends to be(close to) neutral in tonality.
>muddy
Upper bass emphasis. This results the sound being overly warm and tubby. A broad lift in the response around 200-400 Hz tends to give this impression. Sometimes used in production to describe excessive low sub bass, too.
>bloated
Used for the same upper bass emphasis as above.
>recessed
A range of frequencies that is lower in amplitude. Doesn't refer into any particular sound on its own.

Aside from confusing terminology which consists of terms with clear definitions, terms which have a meaning in audio but don't refer to the frequency magnitude and terms which mean absolutely nothing at all there is a big problem here: the listener. People who review audio gear and know how to listen are rare. You can train it but many don't and it's hard to know who can. And even an expert listener can't rid the bias that inherently comes with sighted listening. Subjective and sighted evaluations are a very unstable foundation for any claims of audio quality even if you have the skill and clear terminology.
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Looking for new earbuds...neutral preferred, up to 100$.

I'm currently using Sennheiser CX 300 II, and they sound alright for most things (probably even great considering the price) but I bloody hate the cables, they are some weird shit with one shorter than the other, and it snags all the fucking time on the plastic thing where the cables divide, it drives me crazy whenever it snags and causes one of the buds to fall out.
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>>59232536
>low cable runs
*long cable runs
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>>59232646
Wear a hat?
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Has a new iem that's on the price-quality level of the piston 3 come out yet?
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>>59224372
wow wee i went searching the archives for these old templates
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>>59233011
Just get piston 3s?
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>>59232650
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-Momentum-Wireless-Active-Cancellation/dp/B00SOM7XJC

I'm no shill, but if you're looking for wireless on ears then you might as well get something like this lol
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>>59232990
>>>/fa/
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I just bought a usb "sound card" and the sound is extremely quite. It works normally only if I switch the usb slots but only for a few seconds.
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>>59233650
time to get an amp
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>>59233657
But I just bought the usb card since the audio slot got broken. It sounds normally if I remove it and insert it in a new usb slot so I'm sure there is a way to fix it.
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>>59233741
USB sound card is not an amp. It's just a cheap DAC with a passthrough.
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>>59232911
Thank you based anon, you've been very helpful. Also, dubs checked and confirmed. Thanks again.
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I need your help /hpg/.

I'm a designer. After using various headphones and AMPs over the years, I have an idea for a DAC/AMP of my own. I've shown the sketch to few people and they all liked it and said it looked cool. The design was inspired by another device that I love and it has similar usability.

How would I go about making my own DAC/AMP? Are there any open-source DAC/AMP board layouts? I'd also need help making it fit into the new enclosure.

Any advice?
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>>59234068

The O2 would be your easiest option, I guess
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>>59228962
care to explain?
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m8s any opinions on the pic related?
My Pistons are RIP in peaces, need to buy something else...
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>>59234159
From my research, O2 is not a DAC. Also, it's pretty big and from plans that I've seen, it's designed to be portable (has battery connectors too).

There's something called ODAC that's built upon open-source O2 design by nwavguy but I don't think that's open source.
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>>59234214
get new pistons. RHA don't sound 6x better to justify the 6x price.

none of the IEMs sound as good as headphones so spending more than $20 on them is retarded.

save some cash for momentums/urbanites.
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>>59234221

Oh, I was referring to the O2 amp+integrated ODAC DAC/amp but I forgot that I don't think that it's open source too
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is there a actual difference between the AKG m220 and k240?
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Memorex cb25 earphines are my favorite gold plated, straight 3.5mm jack with great quality and bass
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>>59234261
>momentums
momentum in ear? they are the same price
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>>59234316
no, momentum over ear.

forget about IEMs if you care about sound quality and price. $20 IEMs sound only marginally worse than $100 ones. don't waste your cash.

about the only IEMs that are worth it are Yamaha inner ear canal ones and Etymotics. But those are $130+ and $230+.
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>>59234369
I will try yamaha thx
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>>59234499
http://www.head-fi.org/t/577712/yamaha-eph-100
it's probably the best deal in <$200 range for IEMs ( I think they're $130 or so on amazon).

I've tried them and they beat the shit out of >$200 Shures. They're only slightly worse than Etymotics but they're also $200+ less.
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Need a closed pair with a removable cable strictly for vidya for about $200. Isolation is a priority, then comfyness. Considering a ATH-MSR7 or a Crossfade M-100. Anything else similar? Don't want to mod a DT770, and I need the removable cable.
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>>59234629
NVX XPT100
Both isolation and comfort is better than MSR7 and M-100.
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anyone seen ear cushions for the Phillips A5 PRO anywhere? they seem to be out of stock everywhere.
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I tried out the HD 630VBs in store and desu I quite liked them. Only thing I wasn't a fan of was the puny cable, and some places are saying that B&W P7s are better?
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>>59228950
>7XX
>neutral
fucking hell
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>>59229152
He's right about the 6XX being warm.
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>>59234736
Anon is probably looking to use a boom pro, so the NVX is out.
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>>59232391
None, other than what >>59232536 said, though which is pretty much a non-issue for headphone cables.
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Should I?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00X9KV0HU/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=B00X9KV0HU&linkCode=as2&tag=thedaionl-21
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>>59232588
Hi-Fi insider is a massive shill. Ignore him forever, please. He praises fucking 1k+ USB cables.
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>>59234736
>Both isolation and comfort is better than MSR7 and M-100.

Eh, I'd kinda argue that. Comfort is better than M-100, but not MSR7. The XPT-100 clamp fucking way too hard. Also, they sound worse than the MSR7 by a large margin.

Isolation is worse than both as well. XPT-100 has really poor sealing issues at the hinges. Not only does general noise not get isolated hugely, but it creates a lot of wind noise if used outdoors.
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>>59234736
>>59235584
Yeah, I plan on using it with a BoomPro. Likely going with the MSR7. Considering the WS1100, which seems to be similar to the MSR7 but more bassy, but it seems like it leaks a bit of sound, which I don't really like.
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>>59234658
I always loved the look of the th500rp, the cups remind me of the stax sr-009.
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>>59235707
>Comfort is better than M-100, but not MSR7.
I've heard more complaints about the comfort of MSR7 than that of XPT100.

>Also, they sound worse than the MSR7 by a large margin.
Sound wasn't a main priority. Both are very mediocre sounding.

>Isolation is worse than both as well.
>Broadband Isolation in dB (100Hz to 10kHz): -20 dBr
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/NVXXPT100FlatPads.pdf
>Broadband Isolation in dB (100Hz to 10kHz): -15 dBr
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHMSR7.pdf
>Broadband Isolation in dB (100Hz to 10kHz): -13 dBr
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/VModaM100.pdf

>XPT-100 has really poor sealing issues at the hinges.
Neither measurements nor any of the reviews I've read reflect that.

>it creates a lot of wind noise if used outdoors.
They're not meant for outdoor use. Neither is the BoomPro.
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Put /hpg/ in the fucking title next time
This is why threads die
Anyways captchas have decent taste in headphones
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>>59234369
That is a lie. I can hear a big difference between $20 and $100 iems. Your ears are just probably shitty.
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>>59234185
Referencing this >>59232911 since I'm not overly familiar with the terms.
Just seems incredibly muddy, treble is also lacking in detail.

It also gets hot wearing them for a while, otherwise very comfortable though.
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>>59224315
>As such, I present to you, the best headphones money can buy
FTFY
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>>59231953
why do you use it anon
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>>59232697
iems
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>>59234369
hf5 cost around $100~150 and they're worth every penny.
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Have an old amd setup 2 X4 phenom 955+ with shitty board

I need to know if there is a decent USB soundcard and how much that would cost. Would run speaker or headphones over it in the price range of 100-200£
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Suggestions for cheapo (~$20 or below) iem?

No piston please, I've had them before and they're very uncomfortable for me.
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>Budget
200€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Asus Xonar Dx or FiiO E10K Olympus 2
>Type of headphone
fullsize
>Open or closed
pref. closed
>Comfort level
should be comfy.
>Sound signature
-
>Past headphones
sennheiser pc360, hyper x 2, beyerdynamics dt 880 250ohm for 2 days. got them broken and sent them back. i liked all of them but want some "Better" comparable with the dt 880 but just some alternatives.
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Which one is better for noise isolation?

audio technica msr7
audio technica m50x
beyerdynamic DT 770 M 80

Any other recommendations?
Are there any cheap IEM that deliver decent sound quality while giving as good or better sound isolation?
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>>59237238
DT 770 M are drummer headphones. So i guess those..
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>>59237238
Etymotic Research products give you the highest levels of sound isolation. hf5 have the best sound quality to price ratio.

However sound-wise the Xiaomi Piston 3 will give you most of the sound quality at such a low price that nothing can compete; the only problem is that the Piston 3 don't isolate.
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Beyer, custom one pro's worth 120 cdn? Or am i just better off getting some mdr7506.

http://www.ncix.com/detail/beyerdynamic-custom-one-pro-plus-42-105230.htm?promoid=1146
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>>59237462
get V6
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>>59236494
>I can hear a big difference between $20 and $100 iems.
Piston Hybrids vs any $100 and there's no quality difference at all.

>Your ears are just probably shitty.
I'm just debiased and have done A-B testing. You have not.
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>>59237473
if they werent 190$ cdn everywhere online, then maybe.
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>>59237491
>sighted testing
>unbiased
LOL
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>>59237517
only a retard would think that a tiny driver can create full-bodied sound. stay retarded and keep on using that shit. i couldn't care less.
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>>59229118
Q12s are probably your best bet. I own a pair so ama if you want to.
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>>59236856
The red Q12s on amazon are on sale for $22 right now. This may be a good chance to hop on the bluetooth bandwagon.
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>>59237512
>canuckistani
see if your frozen shithole has MDR7506 for cheap. they're not much different from V6.
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>>59237540
>thinks sighted testing will ever be unbiased
stay retarded
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>>59224279
rock zircon
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>>59237596
it can. close your eyes, retard. and keep on using IEMs with tiny drivers. hope your puncture your eardrum with IEMs one of these days so you quit the hobby and quit shitposting in /hpg/.
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>>59234214
Own a pair myself. Definitely great sounding, with the added benefit of a 3 years warranty and RHA are pretty cool when it comes to handing out replacements as long as you kept your proof of purchase and got them from an AD. The over ear hook style cable is fantastic since it gives them a better grip and zero cable noise. These fuckers stay in place.
If you're unhappy with the quality of your Piston, like if they broke down after a short time, you could give these a try. Even if the sound isn't better you're covered under warranty so no need to replace them constantly.
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>>59237742
SIGHTED TESTING
UNBIASED
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>>59235717
>I always loved the look of the th500rp, the cups remind me of the stax sr-009.
I really, really like them. Had HE400 before and then got TH-500RP and liked them so much more. They fit a lot better and weigh less. Sound much better too. One of the best cans on the market and not many ppl know about them.
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>>59237778
who said anythign about sighted/unsighted? where did you come up with that, dumb autist?
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>>59237821
HE KEEPS GOING AHAHAHAHA
UNBIASED SIGHTED TESTING
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>>59237858
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So I bought PCM2704 based DAC for my AKG k7xx and I absolutely dislike the sound. Everything is too warm and bassy, I can't hear my acoustic guitars as good as before. The problem is I don't know if the problem is hidden in DAC or k7xx are actually should sound like this,
This literally drives me mad because some songs actually sounds better with warmer signature.
My mobo Asus M2N4-SLI
DAC https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5V-USB-Powered-PCM2704-MINI-USB-Sound-Card-DAC-decoder-board-for-PC-Computer/32224589429.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.UA5JRk
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>>59224279
hd600 EQ bro if you're out there, I deleted my EQ setting that you gave me a few weeks ago like a fucking idiot. If you see this can you give me the text code again. It started with 7.00 pre-amp but I can't remember the rest.
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>>59237931
I-is this how they get FR graphs for IEMs?
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Are the Vivo XE800s any good? I've heard people saying that they are better than the Xioami Piston 3.
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>>59237931
>$3 DAC
>$200 headphones
you're a baka. pls go find some other board to post to.
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>>59237540
Keep your wrong ideas of sound reproduction to yourself.

>>59234369
>worth it
Can we stop this already?

Ety has the excellent MK5 for around 70 dollars.

>>59238062
Search archive.
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>>59238300
I've been here for many years and never bothered with any kind of 'archive'. The guy recommended the EQ settings roughly 3 weeks ago as a guess, and I was half drunk. I wouldn't know where to start.
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>>59238501
Do you use EQ APO + Peace?
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>>59238744
APO yes. I don't use peace or any other presets.
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>>59224279
I got Bose QC2. Did I do OK?
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>>59238784
I can make you a config file the EQ settings in about an hour. Going afk now.
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>>59237462
Jesus that's a steal here in Murica
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Are Xiaomi Hybrids better than Xiaomi Piston 3s?
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>>59238833
Sounds good m8. I'll be here.
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>>59237931
>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5V-USB-Powered-PCM2704-MINI-USB-Sound-Card-DAC-decoder-board-for-PC-Computer/32224589429.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.UA5JRk

Christ. Here's a nickel, go buy yourself a schiit fulla2.
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>>59238062
I remember that. You were drunk, and I was thinking about posting before that guy (for some reason I think is from Finland) got to you first.

>-7.00 pre-amp
That was there to counteract the peaking filter at 20 Hz, +7.0 dB boost, Q factor of 0.7.
An additional cut of -2.0 dB centered at 170 Hz, Q factor of 0.5.
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>>59239366
>That was there to counteract the peaking filter at 20 Hz, +7.0 dB boost, Q factor of 0.7.
>An additional cut of -2.0 dB centered at 170 Hz, Q factor of 0.5.
Not him but how the fuck do you set something like that? Screenshot?
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>>59238501
>never bothered with any kind of 'archive'
You should. Saves you a lot of time.

https://rbt.asia/g/thread/S58999797#p59003023

Preamp: -7 dB
Filter: ON PK Fc 20 Hz Gain 7 dB Q 0.7
Filter: ON PK Fc 170 Hz Gain -2 dB Q 0.5

>>59239366
>for some reason I think is from Finland
I am. May I ask what gave you that idea?
>>
HEY YALL THESE http://www.gearbest.com/earphones/pp_169225.html
OR THESE? https://www.amazon.com/JVC-HAFR37B-Marshmallow-Earbuds-Black/dp/B00DW475M2/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
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I've got $200 US to spend, what should I do with it?

Already have SHP's and m40's.
Thinking about DT770/880, used X2's, or MDR 7506.
Anything else worth looking into in the price range?
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>>59238984
Not sure if you already got your EQ sorted out, but I still made it for you just in case:
https://mega.nz/#!UxgkQD4S!JO2g3OgmO-GqAsqtxNiAiseVf4i3dEbFpsNOVW3udNE
Put it in C:\Program Files\EqualizerAPO\config

I didn't make any changes to the treble. You need to fix that yourself.
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>>59239989
That link won't let me download it. Can't you just type out the code so I can put it in my config?
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>>59239864
those
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>>59240014
Preamp: -12.5 (you can put it to -12, I'm just paranoid about clipping)
20 Hz; +12 dB; Q: 0.8
150 Hz; -2.2 dB; Q: 1.0
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>>59239947
HD598se.

A dac+amp like fulla2 if you do not have one already.
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>>59240121
OHH MAAAAN!
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>>59240140
get the xiaomis thoyugh
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>>59240166
ᵒᵏ ᵗʰᵃᶰᵏ
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>>59240125
Thanks. I'll give it a go
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>>59240125
That is some nuts bass boost.
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>>59240130
Wouldnt 598's be pretty redundant with the SHP's?
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>>59240508
I'm not sure they're in the same ballpark.
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>>59240280
Feel free to share your thoughts.

>>59240381
Yeah, but that's what it takes.
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>>59240672
Their frequency response is pretty similar.
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>>59240672
Just going off of what I've heard about them, but the bass on the 598's is probably a little better with better quality highs.
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>Urbanears Zinken
How are they?

My gf wants them because they come in orange.
I want to get her a nice pair because she likes ASMR and only has $10 in ear Sonys (although they're aren't bad for $10).
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>>59239947
Probably something like a nice pair of IEMs considering you don't have any.
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Guys

My right ear starts to hurt after 1-2 hours wearing the Beyerdynamic DT 880. Anything I can do besides stretching the headband?
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>>59242077
Is it touching the driver? You could get thicker pads if that's the case.
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>>59237491
If you done ab testing and still can't hear a difference between $20 and $100 iems that's just proof you have shitty ears.
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>>59242195
yeah kinda. i don't have this problem with my DT770 which have stiffer (thus thicker) earpads...
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>>59242255
Well, there you go.
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>$50ish, maybe a bit more
>USA
>Nexus 5X
>IEM
>comfy is nice but not necessary
>neutral
>Klipsch S3, and garbage before that

Had some klipsch S3's that recently died on me after 5+ years of rough use. I'm temped to just rebuy the S3's but the reviews are kinda mixed on them now and some people are saying the build quality got worse. I tried some $30 earbuds already and the sound quality was too shit to be okay, so I came here.

I'm gonna be using these while working, so they may not last that long, hence the low budget. The Klipsch lasted a really long time, but other than those I've never had any earbuds last longer than a few months before I lose an ear.
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>>59239799
A conversation long ago, probably something to do with saunas.
More recently, "meme languages" and Finnish.

>>59237931
>Ear rape onahole
>Whisper of the Penis
Cochlea love at its finest. Wasn't the cochlea supposed to be in the inner ear and not the middle?
Anyways, I would say that warm and bassy is the signature of the K7XX.
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>>59237462
COPs are decent. They're essentially 770's with less peaky treble. Stock pads aren't great.

7506 are kinda the opposite in terms of sound. Rolled off low end, and very elevated high end. Great for field monitoring, less than ideal for music, for most people.
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>>59237931
Buy a decent DAC next time please.
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>Budget
200USD, hard cap

>Location
US

>Source
Phone, Bluetooth

>Type of headphone
Over ear

>Open or closed
Closed; high isolation required

>Comfort level
As high as possible

>Sound signature
Dark

>Past headphones
Crossfade LP, HD202s, Chink shit ear buds and IEMs.


I'm trying to find decent Bluetooth headphones that also have a detachable cable. I do NOT need ANC or Surround. Comfort before sound, since I have tinnitus, so please, no 'enhanced interrogation' devices. I'm not averse to buying neither Chink shit nor Beats or Skullcandy. (I'm not patrician, enough, and that's just a personal flaw I guess lol)

IF you have a 'wired only' recommendation that you feel I have to look at, please feel free to share. I prefer wireless, but you guys are the 'pros' here.
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>>59243019
> 200 hard cap
> Wireless
Anything you get will be shit.
Also
> High isolation
> Comfort
Those two are not compatible. More isolation usually translates into higher clamping force which means less comfort.
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>>59242208
>If you done ab testing and still can't hear a difference between $20 and $100 iems that's just proof you have shitty ears.
Retard, there's no positive correlation between the price of IEMs and the sound. In fact, there's a negative correlation. Yes, really.

On average, more expensive IEMs sound worse than cheaper ones.
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>>59243019
>200USD
>Bluetooth
Translation: I'd like a new Ferrari for $10k. Hard cap.

>>59243019
>Closed; high isolation required
>As high as possible
Translation: I'm a retard who doesn't understand headphones.
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>>59224279
just ordered the fidelio x2's on amazon, good purchase? /listens to modern genres and love bassy music and rock/to use in pc and lg g4/ mobo is a gigabyte z170xp sli/ uses spotify as main source for music listening/

other options were:

-Bowers & Wilkins P7 (used)
-Senn Momentum 2.0
-Sony MDR1-A (but couldn't get them in my country)
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>>59243701
>fidelio x2's on amazon, good purchase?
What's the point of asking for advice AFTER you've made a purchase?

>/listens to modern genres and love bassy music and rock/to use in pc and lg g4/ mobo is a gigabyte z170xp sli/ uses spotify as main source for music listening
shitty choice for a headphone based on your preferences. and Spotify is horrible and horribly encoded music.
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>>59243803
I can still cancel my order

btw, what would be the best genres to listen to with those headphones?
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>>59243803
What style does the X2 excel at?
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Ok, 40 year-old AudioFag here with deep pockets. I've tried A LOT of them, and my first question to YOU: why DON'T You want a headband? All the latest headphones stick into your ear to stay in - I find this COMPLETELY UNCOMFORTABLE!!! Why is everyone in such a rush to get rid of what makes it all work? True, IEM's can sound great, but at what cost? Secondly, buy a "cheep" pair of AT MH-50's for $200, to compare with everything else. I've listened to a Lot, and these stand up against EVERYTHING. You can get better, but you can't get better cheaper. Enjoy!
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>>59241924
probably aids
but who cares
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> ~$100 or less US
>phone/mobo
>IEM
>Closed
>Neutral
>Comfort not more important than sound, won't be wearing for long amounts of time.

What IEM's under $100 are neutral and don't have nigbass?

I've seen the Soundmagic E10, and Carbo Tenore, and MEE M6 Pro recommended here.
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7xx massdrop is live. I had my heart set on some HD600's, but now I don't know.

The $80 difference doesn't matter much, so if the Sennheisers are unquestionably better, please tell me now before I do something silly.
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>Budget
60$ or less
>Location
usa
>Source
desktop pc
>Type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
not sure
>Comfort level
comfy enough for 1-2 hour gaming sessions
>Past headphones
pretty crappy ones not worth mentioning

I am using them for gaming. I want a decent sound stage for pinpointing footsteps, gunfire etc. I also want them to be immersive too for when I play single player games. Any ideas?
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>>59245639
SHP9500 or Samson SR850
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>>59245678

Why would you choose one of those over the other?
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>>59243547
Not him, but proof of this?
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>>59244990
Is this some retarded form of shilling? M50x are garbage in terms of comfort, and not far off that in sound.
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>>59245849
This sort of copypasta would definitely have more effect on leddit.
>>
Daily reminder that:

/hpg/ - Mid-fi hell
/reddit/ - whatever's hot or being reviewed at the moment
Head-fi - Whatever Jude's shilling at the moment, with a sprinkling of honest opinions
SBAF/Golden Ears - Charts matter more than your ears, always.

Go out into the internet, read up everything you can, audition whatever/whenever possible and make informed decisions. There are equal parts sour grapes and snake oil out there.

Also, disregard anyone who tells you
>Spending more than $X makes you an idiot
>Spending less than $X is a waste of time

It's your money, spend it how you want to. You might find your endgame at the bottom of the value section, or it may lie at the bottom of your empty bank account. Only you (and your tastes) can decide.
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>>59245932
One of the few sensible posts on /hpg/

Should include all the absolute snakeoil on head-fi too. Fucking cable burning in and shit like that.
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>>59224634
Get a yamaga mg-06 and a pair of tannoy reveal 802d's. No need for subwoofer unless you really want lots of bass or have a huge room.
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>>59245716
SHP9500 is closer to flat while the SR850's have a midbass lift with a lot of treble.
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>>59246130

That makes the SR850's seem like they have better sound quality. Are there situations where flat is preferable? I notice the SHP9500 is twice the price of the SR850 too.
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>>59245932
As always, never useful.

>Mid-fi
No such thing. There's plenty of users with headphones that are at most, mid-priced. But that would be normal.
>whatever's hot or being reviewed at the moment
Not very different from here.
>SBAF/Golden Ears
Clearly doesn't know about either.
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>>59246235
I used to have Superlux 681's and the bass never got in the way of the game like CSGO where footsteps stood out like a sore thumb.
>>
Daily reminder that the DT 880 pro gives you the best sound for your money.
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I already have an amp (o2) and now I need a DAC because my mobo is a shit. I REALLY don't want to spend more than 40$ though.
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>>59246833
bs, HD598se does that.

And ffs at least suggest DT880 Premium, which isn't a torture device, comfort-wise.
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>>59246873
$99 schiit fulla2.

Maybe you could afford it if you didn't buy that expensive O2 you didn't need.
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>>59246919
Maybe you could suck my ass, schill.
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>>59243547
Well keep buying cheap chink crap. Just because your ears are shitty doesnt mean we have to.
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So, my mother has her 60th birthday this year and all she has is a bunch of shitty computer speakers which she uses to listen to classical music etc. to.

My thought was that my brother and I could buy her some okay audio equipment to keep her from raping her ears.

Seeing as she's 60 and all and used to listening through shitty speakers I don't think she would make use of anything high end, so this what I would come up with:


https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product/yamaha-a-s201-verstaerker-2-x-140w-silber-stereoverstaerker-receiver-2476353?pcscpId=1
http://shop.fischerhifi.ch/-1/-1/-1?code=40071

I have a decent USB DAC lying around here somewhere, she mainly uses her computer as a source. Might throw in a cheap used CD player from ebay, too.

Does /hpg/ agree with my choices? Are there better options out there? The cost ceiling is 1000$ (or, rather, 1000 CHF).
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>>59236514
Their signature is just flat. The K240 Studios are just that, a studio headphone intended for mastering and are designed for neutrality.

Your ears are used to listening to a V shaped signature with scooped mids. I reckon about a week to readjust.

Give them some time, they are good headphones.
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>>59247628
They are not flat. They are V-shaped more than anything with a prominent mid bass boost and peaks around 10 KHz.
>>
how to remove the smell of beer?
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>>59248197
Drink it.
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>>59237742
good meme but seriously, you're using JPEG on an image containing text. pls man i was hoping /g/ was better than this
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Is 7.1 surround worth it or it's just a meme? Looking at Hyperx cloud 2 and Razer Kraken pro
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>>59248392
Yes, It's a meme. Its all done via software or some USB dongle. Just get some decent headphones and either a 7.1 dongle, or some software.
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>>59245609
They've been selling them for like two weeks straight now. The "limited time" drop just keeps popping back up. You don't seriously think they sold over 14,000 in 24 hours, do you?
>>
Goddammit /hpg/ I just got the M40x and they sound amazing with the stock pads. I also bought the brainwavz pads, and the comfort with them is so much better I could wear them all day long. However the aftermarket pads really make the M40x sound way worse than the stock pads. It's literally sound quality vs comfort: the struggle is so fucking real.
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>>59249809
EQ
>>
>Budget
~150 - 160 €
if you know a pair that are WAY better i'm willing to pay a little bit more
>Location
germany
>Source
3.5 mm headphone jack from my laptop
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
probably closed, because i want as much noise reductions as possible
>Comfort level
should be comfortable enough to wear ~3 hours
>Sound signature
no idea, I just want to play vidya
>Past headphones
I only had in-ears so far, thesere are going to be my first full-sized ones
I was planning on getting the Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro Plus ones, but I'd rather ask for advice before buying anything
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>>59250012
>I just want to play vidya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpsbj0OoeNo
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>>59249961
>implying you can EQ the shit out of that mess with everything you jack those headphones in
>>
Posted this in /hpg/ too
>Budget
Under 50-60$

>Location
Denmark

>Source
Music on PC

>Type of headphone
Over-ear

>Comfort level
As high as possible

>Sound signature
Neutral

>Past headphones
A lot of shitty 8$ no-name headsets
>>
>high quality headphones
>high quality DAC
>hear all the distortion from shitty mastering and having gain turned up too high

Ignorance is bliss.
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>>59250738
only download mastered for itunes tracks off download/torrent sites. they have no distortions and are of better quality than FLACs off CDs.
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>>59238300
Thx for the tip anon. Got really tired of my missbuy rha ma750.
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IEM's around $50 US that are neutral?

Etymotic MC5 like the anon above mentioned?
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>>59251006
stay away from IEMs
>>
>>59245517
hf5
>>
>>59251006
get mk5, mc5 sucks
>>
>>59250852
>march 17

What?
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>>59224315
Do they require an amp? Can i just plug them in my phone and get good semi-loud music?
>>
>Budget
100ish

>Location
Murica

>Source
Phone

>Type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
Closed; intended for public use

>Comfort level
Doesn't matter; especially if the cans you recommend have swappable pads.

>Sound signature
Prefer bassy. Love me some plebshit nigbass and electronic on occasion, but these would be mostly for death metal and the like and rock.

>Past headphones
Various IEMs and chinkshits
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>>59253278
They benefit from amp, but as they are low sensitivity, they'll sound good (just not loud) when plugged to anything.
>>
>>59253378
Great. Thanks.
>>
How uncomfortable are the Fidelio X2s to wear coming from the HD 598's? I'm afraid moving from headphones now because I don't see how I could find a more comfortable pair.
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>>59249809
You can return the HM5's sine they alter the sound to much for you and get DT250 Velours
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>>59241924

>99 amiribux

Those *look* like cheap chink shit.
>>
>>59254167
>DT250 Velour
Not available in europistan apparently.
>>
>>59254293
MSR7 pads?
>>
>>59254416
>from Audio Technica shit pads, to Audio Technica shit pads
What's the point?
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>the more I research in to headphones the harder it becomes to decide what I want to buy
>>
>>59251006
MK5 is hard to beat at any price point.
>>
Bought a few months ago the phillips fidelio x2. They are great but i can´t change the ear pads.
Has everyone a recomendation for a upgrade up to 600€?

I am still finding my music genre so it should play everything good.
The most heared is folk and indiepop though.
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>>59254721
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>>59254872
A friend brought one of those to school around 10 years ago. Teachers told her to never bring them in again because of the """bullets""" attached to the headband.
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>>59254941
Did your friend ever put the hidden bottle opener to use?
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>>59254990
Probably had no idea that was a thing. Amazing design there.
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>>59250012
>probably closed, because i want as much noise reductions as possible
If you don't ABSOLUTELY need closed, open is better. For gaming in general, particularly so.

>So which open do you recommend around that price?
Sennheiser HD598se.
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>>59254721
you're supposed to buy more than one pair
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>ear raping treble: the company
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>>59255223
This is Jude from Head-fi and I approve of this message!
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>>59254721
I'll share with that bit of experience I've learned while researching for headphones and other expensive pieces of hardware.

>First of all decide on a budget
How much do you want to spend is crucial
>Add characteristics that you may want on the product
The more you add, the easier it is to decide
>Find the best products that satisfy the requirements you've set
This is easy, when you know where to look.
>Look for reviews and opinions on the products you may buy
Always compare multiple sources.
>Look for possible issues the products you want to buy may have
Never forget this: a product might be the best in its category for a number of reasons, but if it breaks easily it's worth nothing
>Repeat the process with products that sit in higher and lower price ranges
Last but not least, you may find that with a small increase in budget the quality is significantly higher, or that if you spend significantly less you would lose just a small percentage of the overall quality. This passage is crucial in order to optimize the quality to price ratio and avoid ending in the diminishing return zone.

If at the end of this you're still uncertain on what to buy, add more requirements.
Here's a little example:
I wanted to buy a pair of full size headphones for my gf's birthday; I knew she needed
>closed headphones
>neutral sound signature
At that point I looked in the 50 to 100 dollars price range. Then I thought that it would have been better if she could carry those headphones around, so I restricted the pool to
>foldable headphones
For portability purposes. Excluded everything that I deemed too weak or not built well enough, and I remained with
>Sony MDR 7506
>Audio Technica ATH-M40x
Since the M40x look better and have a removable cable, I went with those. Easy.
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>>59255376
Over ear, open, neutral. Up to £200 (but prefer to spend less). Has to be easy to drive.

I never received a recommendation in the other /hpg/ thread.
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>>59245932
>Mid-fi hell
A term which means nothing beyond price.
>whatever's hot or being reviewed at the moment
So exactly like this place? Reddit is just full of karmawhores who farm upvotes by posting their useless pictures of their new, boring purchases.
>Whatever Jude's shilling at the moment, with a sprinkling of honest opinions
Honest maybe but mostly completely worthless and misinformed opinions.
>Charts matter more than your ears, always.
SBAF is clueless on too many things they try talk about and an echo chamber with awful moderation preventing it from becoming anything else. Similar to Head-Fi in that respect.

>>59250738
>Ignorance is bliss.
?

>>59255172
>For gaming in general, particularly so.
Well memed.

>>59255223
For what purpose?

>>59254850
>upgrade
Define what you want first.
>I am still finding my music genre so it should play everything good.
Genre never dictates what headphones you buy.
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>>59232773
It's steelseries arctis
>>59235096
http://goldenears.net/board/GR_Headphones/5998015
http://goldenears.net/board/GR_Headphones/5464883
400g and non removable cable flimsy cable, fuck that.
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>>59256377
>http://goldenears.net/board/GR_Headphones/5998015
>sennheiser channel matching
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