/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>59141222
>Currently $55 USD

Best budget headphones coming through.

HD600 is shit.

HD 600 is the standard

>>59141222
Why is OP an anime poster?

>>59141267
Why aren't you an anime poster?

>>59141270
Good point.

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Am I c-cool yet?

>>59141267

Because 4chan.

The truth of these threads is that:

/hpg/ will tell you that any amount over $100 for headphones (that aren't sennheiser/akg/beyers) is too much, and you're a sucker for paying that much.

head-fi will tell you that any amount less than $1000 is laughable, and that everything is cute until you work your way up to "endgame" or true "Hi-Fi".

Reddit will parrot whatever reviewers tell them is best, or choose from 4chan or head-fi

SBAF or Golden Ears will tell you that everything that isn't a graph is bullshit, and they are all that matters.

Reality lies somewhere between all of this. Take EVERYONE'S advice with a grain of salt and audition whatever you can before you make a decision.

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>>59140923
try sites that offer itunes rips of your favorite bands. I have no idea what you listen to and many sites specialize in different genres of music.

just for shits & giglges, I just analyzed two rips. top one is "mastered for itunes" AAC encoded file. info says:

Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : 40
Duration                                 : 4 min 39 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 425 kb/s
 

bottom one is a scene "high-quality rip" of the same song from a well-known scene group. nfo files says it was encoded from a CD. the track sizes are slightly different (inro of the scene rip is longer... possibly different country's version of the song)... but that doesn't matter.

Format                                   : MPEG Audio
Format version                           : Version 1
Format profile                           : Layer 3
Mode                                     : Joint stereo
Duration                                 : 4 min 54 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 320 kb/s

AAC wins by quality alone. it's no contenst. the files are smaller too.

if you have high-quality cans and a good DAC/AMP, don't settle for garbage music sources.

>>59141307
> tfw you can hear frequencies bellow 1k hertz
NIGGERBASS MEMEPHONES

I've been looking for something as EQ neutral as possible, for mixing and mastering audio. I've always had to refrence my tracks on a variety of different gear to make shit sound good, but would like something more stable and non tone contributing as a starting point.

My usual last step is to go for a drive in my '02 car with the stock stereo and check it against the eq presets. Best way to know your mix is working hah.

Tell me what I need and why, thanks.

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>>59141267
>Why is OP an anime poster?
anime, on an anime site... such a strange thing. better questions is... why are you on an anime site complaining about anime?!?

>>59141238
quit spamming your fucking shit.

>Budget
150-220 dollary doos
>Location
Cunt town
>Source
Onboard audio
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Either, leaning towards open.
>Comfort level
don't care
>Sound signature
A little bassy
>Past headphones
m50xs

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Just got these babies. I'm part of the Hi-Fi community now!

>>59141346
You did agree to my reply earlier, did you, anon?
>>59136525
Anything else you would like to vent out? If not, I have the perfect board for you.
>>>/a/

:^)

>>59141333
You need studio monitors desu, should never exclusively mix/master on headphones.
Yamaha HS series are a good place to start.

Listening from a lot of different sources is smart as people will be doing the same, car test is always an essential.

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>>59141351
>type of headphone
>Full

Here you go.


The type you're looking for is over-ear.
Get the Fidelio X2

>>59141351
>don't care
Seriously? No plan to actually wear them?
>Either, leaning towards open.
Long way to spell open.
>A little bassy
Maybe HD598? They're neutral, but unlike the HD558s they do have bass.
Just keep in mind they aren't bass canons... no favoring of bass to the expense of anything else. Won't shake your skull.

>>59141222
Nice ponytail sports-type... want to grab her arm, pull her my way and... grab her headphones for a listening test.

>>59141433
you're fucking retarded. you're as dumb as a moron who goes on gay.com/forum/tech and complains about gay people there.

>>59141483
Come on, anon. No need to so hostile, is there?

There IS a reason why there is a containment board for dumb anime posters. Why do you ignore this? What's the matter?

Now off you go, anon. I promise i'll visit you every once in awhile.
>>>/a/

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Can anyone tell me what headphones she's wearing?

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>>59141525
this whole site is an anime containment board. your IQ is too low to realize that. keep on fighting windmills, sumbass.

>>59141558
I'll find you more fans Ai!

>>59141436
That's not the first time I've been told that. I guess ear fatigue sets in a lot faster on headphones.

I have been planning on buying some moniters as well. Not sure what size drivers to go for though. I hear 5" rockits are supposed to be pretty balanced even in small spaces. Is bigger really better? Footprint isn't an issue but my studio is only 15' x 12'. Acoustics arent terrible but could be better.

>>59141558
Then what is the use for the board under Japanese Culture, anon? Surely you can't be like this. Why are you so hostile? Surely you have something deep to vent out.

>>59141602
I dunno but I'm seeing sachikong!

anime wins yet again~

>>59141632
Good luck, anon.

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>>59141558
>Budget
$30-80
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Prefer closed but open to either
>Comfort level
Max comfy
>Sound signature
Nothing in either extreme.
>Past headphones
JVC HA-RX 700, ATH M50x

Alright boys so I fell for the ATH M50x meme last year. While I don't min the sound of these headphones the discomfort level is seriously driving me up the wall. I thought I could get used to them but I find myself shifting one ear off/one ear on sometimes just 5 minutes into wearing them and I've owned them for about 6 months or so.

I seriously don't care if my next set is expensive audiophile tier stuff, just want something comfy again. My HA-RX 700s (had 2 pair break due to carelessness, my fault) were pretty comfortable and sounded good enough for me but they are getting on in years at about 8 years old and just wondering if there is something newer/better out there.

Thanks.

>>59141661
Have you thought about buying pads for the m50's?

aa mujou...
kono sekai wa kanashimi ni michiteru

Umi's voice... HD600... Bliss.

>>59141558
>>59141661
Obviously didn't mean to reply to you, kawaii-uguu girl. I'm gomenasai.

>>59141660
Don't need luck! Anime is too far ahead in the scoreboard!

>>59141674
I have but I'm just nervous that it's the tightness of the headband that causes the discomfort, not so much the padding. I'd be open to ideas though, any suggestions?

I've tried to stretch the band out but it always seems to regain it's tightness.

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>>59141602
4chan was created for Japanese Culture.

>use for the board under Japanese Culture

to actually delve deeper into Japanese Culture. We're just skirting it here with images and such. We get to the meat of culture there.

>>59141699
regular hm5 pads should do it.
>I've tried to stretch the band out but it always seems to regain it's tightness.
Did you try stretching them out for a few days in a row? I had to do that to my monoprice 8323's to get them to loosen up

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>>59141593
Speaker size is mostly dependent on room size.
5' are fine for a bedroom.

KRK's are too bassy for my taste.
JBL305's are well recommended if the HS5 is too pricey for you.

>>59141703
Fair enough, but I still can't thank the idea of containment boards enough.

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Still waiting on a review of these.

>>59141718
>hm5 pads
Cool, thanks. These look like exactly what I need. I haven't tried aggressively stretching for a long period of time, no. I've always been nervous that I'd irreversibly damage them. I might try these pads out first and see how it goes and then move to some more serious stretching if still having ear pain. Thanks.

>>59141749
Because instead of driving away the people you dislike it brings them in?

>>59141766
No, of course not. I just like their reactions, you hostile little anon, you.
>>59141346
Are you tired, anon? You seem a bit tired.

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>>59141787
what

>>59141733
> Obnoxious bright red meme50x
Post pics of your boipussy
I know you love the attention you faggot

>>59141800
>>59141787
>>59141766
I may have read that wrong. Sorry, i'm also a bit tired. I'm going to bed.

>>59141733
Are you a fuccboi?

Thoughts on etymotic hf5?

>>59141661
>$30-80
everything you buy for that amount of cash will sound like putrid garbage compared to m50x.

>>59141756
>I've always been nervous that I'd irreversibly damage them
I know people say not to do it, but I've done it with my 8323's and hd 600's and didn't have anything bad happen. Just be careful and you should be good.

>>59141900
Any hope that modifying the stock pads will improve comfort and not compromise the sound too much?

>>59141934
From my experience changing the pads alters the sound significantly on pretty much all headphones.

>>59141661
Status CB-1, $80.

Comfy with the stock pads, sound is more neutral than the M50x, and detachable cable.

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>>59141934
>Any hope that modifying the stock pads will improve comfort and not compromise the sound too much?
yes, of course. I have a set of velour pads for ATH M50x and they're comfy as fuck. just search for a set in your price range.

>>59141943
quit buying those retarded XL pads and you won't have that problem. I changed my m50x plether pads to velour and sound didn't change at all.

>>59141900
Nice try but no.

Superlux stuff, ISK 2010/2011, SHP9500, NVX XPT100

all compete with the M50X. M50X is overpriced at what it offers.

>>59141661
Get the NVX XPT100, it's max comfy and 80 bucks.

>>59141980
>>59141966
or this but get the Somic MM185 instead it's the oem version and it's 20 bucks cheaper.

>>59141943
Noted, thanks.

>>59141966
Thanks.

>>59141971
So there is some hope, thanks.

>>59141980
Watching a review now, thanks.

>>59141996
Good deal, detachable cable on that one too?

Some of these are so cheap I might just buy them to try out.

>>59142044
>Some of these are so cheap I might just buy them to try out.
they're cheap because they're chinkshit garbage. you're wasting your money away.

>>59142044
Yes it has a detachable cable.

>>59141847
God tier sound and isolation.

Was designed to match their older ER-4P flagship IEM in sound quality.

>>59142081
>they're chinkshit garbage.
Fuck, alright. I don't know who to believe.

Am I just doomed to needing to purchase another $150+ set? I just want something comfortable and "not terrible".

>>59141238
>>59141239
>>59141266
The sad thing is that SHP9500 is the best budget headphone and HD600 is the best high end headphone. SHP9500's flat impedance is really what makes it better than HD598. HD600 can't be beat even into the kilobuck meme territory.

Is it a meme that I need more than E10k to drive 250 ohm Beyers?

>>59142181
Do you listen really fucking loudly? Then consider something with more power.

>>59142081
Nice try shlomo. Everything is built in china now adays. Somic is a major headphone brand over there.

>>59142160
Anything is more comfortable than the M series Technicas. The earpads they decided to put on them have to be the most worthless earpads on the market for such an expensive headphone. The Somic/Status you're looking at will be a god send compared to those.

The NVX XPT100 (Yoga CD880 clones another major brand for headphones in china) will be even more comfortable than it but then is the 20 extra dollars for a little bit more comfort worth it or not.

>>59141661
Try bending the metal parts of the headband on the m50x. reduces clamp by a fair bit. wont break anything as long as you just bend the metal bits.

How would I go about using wired headphones wirelessly with my televison? Like, plug an output into the TV then plug in the headphones into a receiver across the room without anymore wire than the headphones.

>>59141753
CONNECTORS ARE FUKT

Though measurements look really promising.

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>>59142330

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>Budget
$90
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very Important. Need to not get sick of wearing them after say 5 hours of watching anime
>Sound signature
Mostly listen to rock/metal as well as electronic stuff like glitch hop and hardstyle
>Past headphones
Logitech G230 poop

>>59142330
Bluetooth receiver
Quality will be shit tho.

>>59142233
>>59142160
I tried the nvx pads on them but it altered the sound to much.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M1OAB2G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought these pads and they seem to work great with them.

Pretty comfy pads for the price. Thick pads just don't work well with the M series technicas.

>>59141971
Not him, but how did isolation change? I have some M40x in the post and have heard less than favorable things about HM5's.

Im in Australia so big pleather pads aren't really my thing. DT250 velours seem promising, not sure what those are.

>>59142381
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRV6-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00001WRSJ/ref=sr_1_3?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

>>59142381
NVX XPT100 or Somic MM185

Own a XPT100 myself, You don't even have to take them off ever.

>>59142377
That's what I'm doing, would like it to be cleaner.
>>59142391
All the receivers I see are to connect to phones. Can't find one that is meant to send out a signal to another adapter.

>>59142454
There are plenty. You need to look harder
One will go into your TV headphone jack and the other either on your headphones if they have a removable cable or at the end of the cable

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Anything wrong with getting a Jotty?

>>59142492
Yeah, super helpful.

>>59142509
It's not a NFB-11

fulla or e10k for hd598 and i dont care that theyre easy to drive already

>>59142510
> Ask a question
> Get an answer
> Yeah, super helpful
You're welcome famallamadinga

>there are people in this thread that think they need a DAC and an amp to listen to their placebo headphones

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So someone recommended me to get M40x's. Would they be worth paying more for compared to the NVX XPT100, Somic MM185, or Sony MDRV6?

>>59142531
Neither.

>>59142537
It's just Schiit guerilla marketing campaign. Don't be fooled, posters like this retard
>>59142531
aren't real. They're pajeets that will reply to themselves recommending the Fulla 2 and arguing with anyone that recommends the E10K

>>59142543
If you like bright headphones, then the v6 would be better

>>59142543
NVX for comfort, Sony for best sound.

Your call.

>>59142543
For bassy, XPT-100 is comfier than the Somic. Both are pretty damn comfy though, but the XPT pads are larger. Both arent built too well.

M40x is the closest to neutral. Theyre slightly V-shaped, but have the worst stock pads. DT250 pads work well. Moderately decent build.

MDRV6 are bright. Best built, and decent stock pads.

>>59142558
did you put that comma in the wrong place ? that shit is confusing me with what kind of inflection im putting on "like" in my head

>>59142531
The Fulla 1 can be had for cheaper than the E10k. Fulla 2 is 25 bucks more. Fulla 2 isn't worth it as you won't hear a difference in sound.

Fulla 1 doesn't have the bass boost of the e10k but that really doesn't matter because you can just eq. Whichever is cheaper really, so go with the Fulla 1 unless you can get the e10k cheaper.

Then again you have a HD598 which needs neither. So really just don't buy either.

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>>59142571
>>59142601
>>59142609
Thanks for the info friends, I'll try to pick out from these what I think I'll want most.

>>59142658
so i really wouldnt notice a differencve from my laptops audio and the fulla or e10k, that seems hard to believe considering the amp part alone just making it louder

>>59142695
Do you already listen at max volume on your laptop? Do you feel like you need to go louder with the volume?

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>>59141809
Sleep smug, smug.

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>>59141238
I have a pair and enjoy them, but your constant shilling in every single thread makes them look bad.

>>59142391
>>59142492
>>59142533
they're not bluetooth, dumbfuck

https://www.amazon.com/Optimal-Shop-Receiver-Wireless-Transmitter/dp/B00Q1HJW4Q

>>59142924
> I'm a literal retard
Ok kid

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>>59142171
>when the shill shills to hard and loses grasp on reality

Whatever you say, first it's 700 bucks now not even 1000 dollar headphones can beat the HD600.

>>59143185
see
>>59141317

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>>59143080
did you even read anon's question? because bluetooth anything is not the answer

>>59141222
>Budget
$50 or under
>Location
USA/Cali
>Source
Planning on buying a Colorfly C3
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Fairly comfy, but not too important. Also, I want to be able to jog w/ them, so something that won't fall out easily.
>Sound signature
I listen to a lot of rock, along w/ indie stuff, some pop and EDM, so whatever is best for those.

>>59141325
So you're saying all 320 is chopped garbage?
And does this AAC being better than 320 go for everything, or just this "mastered for iTunes" shit

>>59143288
Soundmagic E10
Tennmak Pro
Carbon Tenore
Pic your poison.

>>59143457
Thanks, will probably go w/ the Tennmak

>>59143185
That wasn't me. HD600 is the best production headphone that money can buy. Not even shilling, it's just a fact, some shitty 90s headphones are shitting on all the new products being released today and a few years ago.

rly mks u thnk

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>>59143551
>best production headphone money can buy

It does really make me think.

Now stop shilling for Sennheiser.

>>59142658
>>59142695
That fulla2 volume knob is nice, though...

HD598 will benefit from an amp (any will work), but doesn't need one.

>>59143672
Not even shilling, HD600s are shit 2bh but it's the best piece of shit in the massive turd pile that are headphones.

>>59143836
40 bucks over the fulla 1 for a volume knob, 25 bucks over the E10k and the fulla 2 has less features.

Waste your money how you like, no one is stopping you.

>>59141238
>55 USD
>they're more than three times that in Europe
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59143919

>for a volume knob
Power output is way higher in f2 over f1/e10k. It's likely the only headphone amp you'll ever need. Beats having to buy two.

>less features
f2 has line in & 2x line out (with/without volume knob). e10k has a "bass boost" switch.

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>>59141325
>16KHz lowpass
MP3.
>Shitty distribution of power.
Opus does well there.
>AAC wins
Not against opus, nor lossless (flac, alac).

what's the best mp3 player for the buck?

>>59144857
https://www.mpg123.de/

Is Z reviews the ultimate shill? He seems to like everything.

>>59143915
I agree and lets not get started on speakers, they are even worse like who even needs hearing. Such a useless sense.

>2017
>falling for the recorded jew

You already have ears, go listen to live music you mop.

>>59145082
ears are fallible, need to learn touch music to truly appreciate it.

>>59145044
m50x

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Any alternatives to these but with more bass and less boring?

>>59145109
Bass. The stronger the better.

>>59145321
http://graphs.headphone.com/index.php?graphID%5B0%5D=853&graphID%5B1%5D=3801&graphID%5B2%5D=&graphID%5B3%5D=&scale=15&graphType=0&buttonSelection=Update+Graph

>>59145391
I don't get it. The graphs show the bass being well over the mids and highs and still everything just sounds boring. The bass is very much laid back and the sub bass especially is very lacking. A pair of 5€ in ears have a more satisfying and punchy bass than those, for instance.

>>59145425
Then go listen to 5€ in ears of you like them so much more.

>>59146852
i didn't say i like them so much more

>>59145425
HD700 was the suggestion.

Notice the stronger bass when compared to HD650, while still performing decently elsewhere.

>>59146902
I know it was the suggestion but it also goes way over the budget. I'm asking for suggestions around 300€ which is aorund what the 650s cost

Also that treble looks nowhere near as smooth as 650s.

>tfw I own HD800's and they are the undisputed best headphones ever

How goes it poorfags? What is it like living in squalor?

>>59146991
k712 sound the same at less than half the price

>>59147000
Delete this.

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>>59141222
What are your opinions on Skullcandy? They good?

>>59146991
Mommy can't afford the HE1060s for you or what?

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>>59147075
No, but my student loans covered the cost of my HD800's quite nicely.

>>59147070
>>59123099

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How do I fix my headset pls help

>>59147087
The HD800s are just HD600s with bigger soundstage and bigger marketing campaign aka they are overhyped pleb cans with dynamic drivers.

Real hi-fi 1000+€ headphones have electrostatic drivers.

I'm sorry you ruined your future for what you could have gotten 4 times cheaper.

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>>59147000
>k712 sound the same
LMAO... AKG can't make good phones anymore and none of their phones sound like any of the Senns.

>>59146935
EQ some bass in when you want it. WTF would you want more bass? That shit will make your ears bleed after 10 min.

>>59143450
>So you're saying all 320 is chopped garbage?
No, just that one. You can't trust scene rips blindly. But you can trust mastered for itunes.

>And does this AAC being better than 320 go for everything, or just this "mastered for iTunes" shit
just mastered for itunes from my experience. it depends where you get your lossy rips from.

biggest win for "Mastered for itunes" is that they specify to engineers that they should not compress music a lot.

Most of the FLACs from CDs are just a heap of garbage because of overcompression to make it all sound louder. This is all a rule of thumb, of course. All I'm saying is that you're way more likely to come across a shitty FLAC or a 320kbps MP3 than a shitty mastered for itunes song.

Pic related... checked another mastered for itunes album... no clipping, no overcompression, full dynamic range, and small file sizes. Sounds great too.

Moar info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

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>>59147102
fix the root cause first.

>>59147149
>WTF would you want more bass? That shit will make your ears bleed after 10 min.
I understand that and that's why I'm asking for help. EQing the bass doesn't make it any more thumpier, "faster" or punchier - it just makes it boomier and fatigating. What's the deal here?

>>59147070
Poorly built mud cans.

>>59147102
What the absolute fuck did you do?

>>59147164
prozac is shit

>>59147199
OCD is a helluva mental disease.

>>59147146
>The HD800s are just HD600s with bigger soundstage and bigger marketing campaign aka they are overhyped pleb cans with dynamic drivers.
I know, and I accept they are stupidly overpriced. I had HD650's though and really liked them, so I just wanted them + more.

I don't think its fair to say they are overhyped, a lot of people shit on them and for good reason. The sibelance peak is pretty annoying too and can make them tiring to use.

Doesn't really matter how good they sound though because of the amount of pussy I get thanks to them.

Will sound of HD650 be different with amp+dac? Especially highs and soundstage.

>>59147231
What DAC/Amp are you currently using though?

>>59147246
None. There is some DAC in my Logitech speakers but I bet it's total shit. Going to order E10k.

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Really makes me think

>>59147231
I have the 650s and I can't tell the difference between my Schiit stack and my Motherboard

>>59147231
I have HD600s and a Corda Cantate amp/DAC. They sound weak and just wrong with onboard sound. The amp/DAC gives more detail and power obviously.
You can get cheap used amp and dacs on head-fi. A DAC at least is essential equipment imo.

>>59142886
Remember, all friendly reminders, anon.

>>59147231
Got the HD600. Shitstack™ makes volume peaks in the song appear as such, making it more "fun".

Onboard makes it bland.

Fulla2 would be just as good at 1/3rd of the cost or so.

>>59147184
Post a screenshot of the graph window for your EQ.

>>59147269
The pricing of the HD599 is so nonsensical.

>>59143185
>Dumb anime poster

Quit shilling the HD 600s. Your statement is as retarded as the one you replied to. Please don't do this, anon.

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>>59147414
Someone suggested this to me once. I honestly don't hear any "improvments" with that -3dB dip.

>>59147380
>>59147403
Thanks guys. Fulla 2 is 150 euro here so I'll go with E10k.
>>59147282
Maybe you have good onboard audio.

>tfw running HD800 from motherboard audio because to intelligent for an external amp

Why do people shill amp/dac's so hardcore on here? If no one can decide if they actually make any difference then it's pretty obvious they are a waste of time and money.

>>59146991
>He doesn't even have earspeakers

Kek. Please leave the general.

>>59147477
Perhaps, I've never tried any other audio setups so I can't really compare

Just for reference my Motherboard is an Intel DQ77MK, it's nothing fancy and honestly I doubt it has very good onboard in comparison to some of the high-end boards

>>59147448
Looks like you/he has got the right idea. Do you actually think those settings made it worse?

>>59147507
>Do you actually think those settings made it worse?
No, but i'd rather just use the low shelf filter. I don't see the point of the -3dB dip around 170Hz

>>59147478
>buys 1000€ headphones
>runs them off a 2€ chipset

Good to know that my opinion on the average HD800 user wasn't wrong.

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>>59147478
There are also peopl that believe changing the cables will change the sound. Shame I can't find the topic talking about the black ear pads from the limited edition of the DT990. Apparently the black pads removed the bass or something

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>>59147542
The price of things doesn't come into the argument. It's like saying you bought a $1000 IKEA chair so you also have to get some super expensive carpet to put it on.

Frankly I'm to intelligent to fall for the amps meme.

>>59147526
Feel free to get rid of it.
I'd recommended reducing the cut to -1 dB and increasing the gain at 20 Hz by another 4.

>>59147598
That's like building a $Million dollar mansion and just leaving the floors as concrete

>>59147561
Can't pads change sound though, even just a bit? It's like how headphones sound different if you lift them off your head just slightly. I'd can see maybe how going from leather to foam for example could change the sound as it's a less pourous surface.

I dunno though, I've never changed pads so I wouldn't know, and I'm sure if there is any difference it's not enough to make a big deal about.

>>59147478
>>59147561
>>59147598
I refuse to believe people can be this dumb. Post a pic of your HD800.

>>59147626
>Can't pads change sound though, even just a bit
Ofcourse but that's no the case here. It's litearlly the same pad, just different colors.

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>>59147605
Like so?

>>59147669
Yeah, it looks pretty good now. Does it sound good, too?

>>59147723
I'll have to test it when i get home. I have an e10k, not using the 650s on a realtek

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>>59147630
Sounds fine to me desu.

>>59147741
So you really bought slightly modded HD600s for five times their price but refuse to spend 100$ on any amp/dac so you can actually use them.

You really are too smart for this hobby.

>>59147741
I'm done with this general for tonight

>>59147738
Alright, I'll be here another 6 hours from now.
You should also get rid of the 3rd band with +1 dB @ 100 Hz, just for good measure.

>>59147184
>thumpier, "faster" or punchier
and this is why I hate memes

>>59147811
"faster" and "looser" are common terms when talking about bass

>>59147789
>but refuse to spend 100$ on any amp/dac
Just like any other motherboard, mine already has an amp/dac, so why buy another?

>so you can actually use them.
I'm using them right now pal.

>>59147792
:^)

>>59147832
magic crystals are common among audiophiles as well
doesn't make them any less of a meme

>>59147906
It makes sense when Tyll himself uses those terms and they make complete sense.

>buy expensive headphones thinking that it will make everything sound amazing
>just about everything is mastered or recorded like shit so this isn't the case
JUST

>>59147477
>Fulla 2 is 150 euro here
Christ. That's quite expensive for a goddamn F2.

>>59147935
Listen to a lot of movie/television/weeb soundtracks. Theyre not mastered to be stupidly loud like a lot of music, and a lot of it sounds actually damn great.

Pretty much anything Yoko Kanno composed is god tier.

A lot of underground stuff can be well mixed too, though the other half is lo-fi retard shit.

>>59147935
The HD600 experience.

At least idolm@ster is m@stered decently...

What would a real upgrade to the HD600 be?

>>59147987
>The HD600 experience.
I find they actually mask shitty mastering because they are somewhat soupy, maybe it's just me.

>>59148006
Some sort of neutral planar. The 800s are too bright to be considered an upgrade

>>59148006
ZMF Eikon maybe.

>>59148008
Not him but I somewhat agree. At least with low end and lower mids. Upper mids/lower highs tend to be a lot more forward and detailed than most other cans.

>>59148008
I find them pretty merciless on loudness wars era crap.

Still... good for im@s, love live, ar tonelico and such.

Surprisingly, very good for videogame BGM, and even old stuff such as Amiga mods, C64 sids and such.

>>59147741
There is literally nothing wrong with this. I dunno why neo /hpg/ is triggered this hard.

Only thing that slightly triggers me is how the cable hangs out of the headphone port.

>>59147789
>>59147792
Back to head-fi

>>59148098
>There is literally nothing wrong with this
There is if it's catching up noise and intereference.

>>59148098
It's not hanging, I cable tied the adapter/actual end of the HD800 cable to my case. The bit going from there to the port is way longer than it needs to be so it has no weight on it. I think the cable that looks like its hanging is some random USB cable.

>>59148132
>>>/6moons/

>>59147906
But my DAC has a couple of xtals in it!

One for 44.1KHz and another for 48KHz. Either is used for multiples too.

>>59148163
I'm just saying that a cheap external dac will prevent that kind of things. My motherboard does a lot of noise for instance. I can hear my mouse move.

>>59148175
>One for 44.1KHz and another for 48KHz
Speaking of this, why doesn't Windows change automatically depending on what's playing? For instance:
Imagine only foobar is playing and the music playing is at 96KHz. In this case Windows would change to 96KHz.
Stop foobar, open youtube, watch a video playing music at 44.1KHz. Windows changes to 44.1KHz.
Have multiple sourcers playing audio at different rates. Windows changes to whatever default one you set.

>>59148006
another HD600

kappa

agree with the hd800s are too bright crowd, it's not a true upgrade to the HD600 sound signature.

serious answer: stax 007/009

>>59148217
Because its irrelevant and you cant hear the difference. The only circumstance where higher sample rate is useful is in music production, in which any decent DAW forces sample rate anyway.

>>59148239
>serious answer: stax 007/009
Anything that doesn't cost an arm and two legs?

>>59148256

not IMO, which is why I quit this hobby twice over with the HD600s, anything more I'm buying nice studio monitors.

>>59148248
>Because its irrelevant and you cant hear the difference
Doesn't resampling 44.1KHz to 96KHz add aliasing or whatever people call it? I have it set to 96KHz just because a lot of things are recorded at 48KHz or 96KHz (vinyl rips) and I'd rather upsample everything instead of downsampling. It's true though that I don't hear any difference

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JUST

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these look sexy & comfy as fuck. anyone tried them? is there a cheaper deal?

>>59148217
foobar2k can do this with WASAPI output plugin.

Windows doesn't do it because it does resample, apply a (negative) gain (per app volume) to anything you throw at it anyway. It also adds latency to the pipeline. Useful butter most users do welcome, but butter nevertheless.

It's not like bit exactness is that important. Particularly, since there's gonna be a delta-sigma DAC at the end, which will generate a bullshit analog wave that's effectively the same in practice but doesn't even resemble the samples fed to it.

>>59148283
I have a pair of them. The pads are just as thin as the stock pads but still offer decent isolation (mainly because your ear touches the entire inside or at least for me it does) I still prefer the hm5 hybrids on the m40s

>>59148293
>foobar2k can do this with WASAPI output plugin.
Can't use EQAPO with this though

>>59148293
>>Windows doesn't do it because it does resample
I know. What i'm wondering is why doesn't Windows ONLY do resampling if there are multiple sources playing audio. If there's only one there's no point in resampling anything

Hey guys, I was planning on buying the Tascam TH-02 and hm5 pads for around 45 bucks.
I was wondering, is there a better pair of closed cans that I can use with the stock pads in that same price range? (preferably with a shorter or detachable cable too)

>>59148327
Probably because avoiding special cases is seen as desirable from a software engineering perspective.

Also, windows deals with a lot of hardware, and in practice none of it can be trusted not to, say, need a full reset complete with audible click when switching modes. I've personally seen at least one chink usb dac that needed a power cycle to do that.

>>59148283
They're essentially just brown DT250 velour pads, which can sometimes be found for cheaper. Otherwise the massdrop ones are pretty well priced and look nice.

You can get cheaper alternatives from china, which are nearly as good.
Such as:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252312733569

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What are the differences between the ways it's installed?

Anyone here that has the RS185 from Sennheiser. How is it?

>>59148528
Do you have eyes?

Since y'all are shilling hard for the Sennheiser HD600, I am considering to get those.

I have heard a reviewer say that parts of the headband might chip off after a while. Can any long-time owners confirm that? Are there any other (appearance) flaws after usage of many years?

Typically, I am very careful and diligent with my stuff, but the bending of the headband is necessary to put them on, so I would not want to spend that much money on something that falls apart by normal use.

>>59148968
>Since y'all are shilling hard for the Sennheiser HD600
its literally one person

>>59148968
Had mine years and showed no real signs of use when I was done with them. I used them probably 30+ hours a week if not more a lot of the time. I'm quite careful with my stuff though as they were a lot of money for me to spend at the time I bought them.

Reliability wise they are solid as far as I've seen, I think the Snapheiser thing is just a meme. Even if they do break I can't see replacing a headband being prohibitively expensive.

Only complaint I have is the earcups wearing out, over time they flatten and mean your ears touch the inside of the cups which isn't comfortable. Plus they are stupid expensive to replace. I only replaced them once and I was too jew to replace them so I just bought another pair, swapped the earpads, then refunded them.

>>59149134
Thank you for the thorough review.
I hope it will turn out the same way for me if I get those.

>>59148968
>Can any long-time owners confirm that? Are there any other (appearance) flaws after usage of many years?
My HD800 chips paint, my HD600 doesn't. Had both for years. HD600 has good build quality but it isn't a tank like Beyer DT880 which is why I think it gets shitposted a lot here.

>>59148098
Today this thread seems more retarded than usual but yeah, there is nothing wrong with that.

Redpill me on the se535 limited edition. Is it just a 3 dollar filter swap or is it really better like the head-fi nerds say?

>>59149372
It is 3 dollar filter swapping and in my opinion it makes them better spinning while still leaving a lot of to be desired. I don't enjoy their dark sound signature and sometimes audible lack of bandwidth.

>>59149402
better sounding*

>>59148968
>parts of the headband might chip off after a while

There's a lot of morons following "stretching guides" rather than letting the headphones stretch by wearing them normally.

Most likely these are the side effects.

>>59149308
Thank you for sharing your experiences.

>>59149308
I heard of those and figured this might be the cause.


If it actually chips off, I think it's part of the warranty Sennheiser offers, isn't it?

If HD600 is the endgame for many, is there an equivalent endgame that's closed in the same price range?

>>59149639
A closed, neutral, endgame pair?

I'm curious, too.

>>59149639
dt250

>>59147149
Have you checked out any Deezloader rips in 320? Would be a big deal if you could tell if they are shit rips or not, I can upload an album you already have in AAC, if you could do the comparison.

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Friendly reminder that HD 600s are the best headphones under $1,000. Only beat by the HD 800s themselves.

Also, Fioo E10Ks are chink shit, and you should only user Shiit Fulla 2s.

>>59150069
Trying something different, after getting sick of doing the usual trustyfucks fidelio shilling?

>>59150069
>Also, Fioo E10Ks are chink shit, and you should only user Shiit Fulla 2s.
Shut the fuck up. You can't even tell the difference between Fulla2 and E10k.

>>59150171
We're both shills, but the HD 600s ARE the best $250 headphones under $1,000, are they not?

>>59150069
schiit and fiio, you moron.

And wtf @ "only beat by HD800s" nonsense. Can't you even shill properly?

>>59150171
>>59150184
>>59150224
>>59150276
FUCK OFF. HD 600s ARE THE BEST HEADPHONES UNDER $1,000 UNLESS IF YOU PROVE OTHERWISE.

>>59150276
GETTING MAD OVER MY SPELLING? KEEP HAVING CHINK SHIT, YOU NEWFAG.

>>59150224
>the best $250 headphones
>under $1,000

I'd be worried if they tried to sell me $250 phones at over $1000.

Oh wait, that's what the HD800s you're shilling are.

>>59150333
lol u mad??

>>59150348
Kek. I'd like to see better headphones under $1,000.

>>59149639
The HD600s are the best price/performance headphones you'll get under 1000€ and are endgame if you pair them with a decent amp and DAC.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared

>>59150224

You've switched some words there.

Surely you meant "The best $1000 headphones under $250", right?

That'd make a semblance of sense.

>>59150383
Stax

>>59150388
This man has it. Keep getting mad, shills.

>>59150393
HD 600s are $250.

>>59150408
Yeah? Show me its frequency response, faggot.

>>59150388
No! It's the trustyfucks FIDELIO X2, not these schiit e600K you retards damnit fuck all.

>>59150408
Yes, SR-007 and SR-009 are upgrades but cost +$2000.

HD600 have been the price performance kings for 20 years for a reason.

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Are these any good

I've had my HD600 for a few years now, great headphones. When I received my STAX sr-009 and Cavali liquid lightning amp, I was amazed, but sold both within months, because I felt that my $300 HD600 was about 98.5% of the sonic quality of the sr-009, if not better.

I've also had the chance to demo the newer HE1060 Orpheus in NY's Sennheiser shop. I'd say the HD600 rivaled that of the Orpheus, and probably had about 93.667% of the sonic quality of the $50k headphones/system.

So, imo, the HD600 is probably the best headphones you could possibly own under $50000, hands down... And, it's not even a member of these orthodynamic or electrostatic meme technologies.

>>59150703
Forget those and buy HD 600s with Fulla 2s.

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>>59150723
I agree. Look at how flat these are. Not even electrostatic headphones can get this flat.

>>59150794
Yea, there's a reason why they are the golden standard for headphones, for decades now. Electrostats and orthodynamic should be left back in the 70s, where they belong. They're easily outclassed by the HD600 and the only reason why the technologies are still alive is because of hipsters wanting something unique. Such is a detriment to the audio community.

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Which ones, /g/? QC35 or PXC 550?

My bus ride is very noisy. The QC35s NC, which I've tried on the bus, performed really well. Some say the NC on the PXC 550 is almost identical to QC35s, while others say it's slightly better on the Bose cans.

What's keeping me away from the QC35s, though, is the sound quality and the fact that you can't turn the ANC off.

>>59150996
>Being this insecure

Why the fuck are you using closed headphones when you can use HD 600s? If someone laughs at you and you feel bad about it, then you're just being insecure. Get HD 600s and get a good DAC + AMP such as the Fulla 2s.

>>59151034

>bringing a dac and open back headphones on a bus ride

???????

>>59151034
Throw these fidelios away and get some HD600.

Or do some honest non-shilling work so you can afford them, then buy them.

Instead of whatever butthurt thing you're doing.

>>59151064
>he doesn't carry a full sized amp and DAC around with him in public so he can use his HD800's with a balanced cable to it's optimum quality while on a 20 minute bus ride

Pretty entry level desu.

>>59151134

>loud noises from going through tunnels every 5 minutes

Yeah no thanks. Tried with multiple closed back headphones and it doesn't do it. I have to crank the volume up to the point where it gets fatiguing in order to drown out some of the noise.

Wish I could use regular closed back cans, but seems like ANC is the way to go.

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I can get the Steelseries Siberia 800 wireless headphones with 56% off. Is this headset anygood? I really want headphones with quality sounds that can blast some bass as well.

I've always opted for neutral headphones and then EQ a slight sub bass and treble boost for extra sizzle.

Are the X2's for me?

Or would DT880's be better and then tame the high end with EQ?
I've only heard the 880's briefly trying a friend's pair, and they were a bit too bright for my taste.

Never seen the HD600s being shilled so hard on /hpg/.

What's going on?

>>59150723
The cavali amps are warm muddy crap though. Everyone knows that. And the Orpheus has always been overhyped. Your SR-009's would have sounded better with a cheap old T1.

Which kinda supports your point really that cost is not reflective of performance.

Something like a Koss Portapro with some better pads and a decent front end is 90% of an HD600 for a fraction of the price.

HD600 is a good deal for full size, but a plain old lambda 207 is about equivalent and about the same price used. I got a cheap old T30 for a fraction of either that's about on the same level.

I got an SR-007 with a KGSSHV Carbon I built, and it's above anything else I've listened to, but it's all diminishing returns. I honestly just enjoy building stuff.

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What good pair of earphones under 140 dollars to buy so I can use when I walk to work?

>>59151092
What the hell? Do you not agree with me?

>>59151322
>Buying gaming headsets

Wait for an HD 600 to go on sale and buy a mod-mic with them.

>>59151365
Why should I agree with half wit?

>>59151381
Because HD 600s are legitimately the best headphones under $1,000. The only problem is, most people don't pair it with a quality DAC + AMP such as the Fulla 2s.

is there any IEM better than the Shure SE-215 around 100$ budget ?

>>59151456
Anything from Sennheiser.

>>59151331
Sennheiser upped their marketing budget.

Is anyone really that stupid to consider buying any headphones other than Sennheiser manufactured headphones?

>>59151485
When there was HD6XX Sennheiser shilled 650, now they shill HD600 again so some of HD6XX buyers would buy HD600 too.

>>59151506
get bent shill!

>>59151506
Nope, but the sad fact is, most people pair their Sennheisers with chink shit DAC and AMPs. Pretty sad, to be honest. Sennheisers are the best, but it also depends on what you pair it with.

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Sennheiser - Reshaping Audio Excellence

Holy shit guys this general is as good as my rotting dick when it comes to discussion on headphones, plz kys.

>>59151606
Kek. what headphones do you own?

>>59151606
You should buy some HD 600s friendo.

>>59151606
Buy HD 600s

>>59151456
anyone with a useful suggestion?

>>59151769
See
>>59151478

Everything sounds like chink shit.

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I've ordered a X2 with a BoomPro, and I'm looking into a DAC. Should I get something like a E10K and just route the mic to my motherboard? I was looking into a better solution, but can't really find anything, and the E10K is about what I expect to pay for a DAC, plus it also works as an amp.

>>59152015
>unironically buying X2s

>>59152015
Buy HD 600s with Fulla 2s

Can someone recommend a decent aftermarket cable under $500 preferably?

>>59152075
HD 600

>>59150703
No get a Teac CT-H02/Tascam TH-02 if you want a cheap good closed headphone. Otherwise look at Superlux stuff or ISK HP2010/2011.

>>59152090
I already own 3 but I need decent aftermarket cables for them.

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>Tried to find a portable pair of headphones
>Try the 99 dollar Sennheiser 59 memes
>These sound like muddy bullshit and the design hurts my massive head
>Try beyerdynamic
>Oh man nice bass
>10 minutes in I discover my left driver is completely blown out
>Return those
>A 50 something dollar pair of plastic with solid sound beats both of those and doesn't feel like my brain is a watermelon being squished between a woman's thighs

Sennheiser and Beyer are shit for portable.

>>59152130
You could have just saved the money and bought endgame headphones like the HD600s which would last you for 10+ years.

Lesson learned, friendo.

>>59150996
Whichever is cheaper as both will be great for portable reasons. You're paying for the bluetooth and the active noise cancellation so expect them to perform around headphones worth 100 bucks.

>>59152154
Who the fuck brings 600s on a public bus

>>59152159
A true audiophile.

Personally I get sick listening to anything other than my HD600s. They are just perfectly balanced in everything.

>>59152130
just dont buy the chinkshit tier stuff

every company got some shit they make just cause its chink tier and they gotta make some $$ off brand recognition

then theres the HD600s

>>59152159
Someone who doesn't care about what people think of them.

Don't forget to bring Fulla 2s with your HD 600s.

>>59152194
>>59152213
>Wearing open cans in public

That is a literal cardinal sin

>>59152156
I currently have the MDR-100ABN, but returning them because of how inconsistent the ANC is.

I think those sounded better than the QC35 from what I can remember, so it's not all about BT/ANC, though.

>>59152260
Insulting your ears with trash sound is a bigger sin. Don't you have no pride? Are you not looking for the perfect sound?

>>59152260
What are you, a faggot? You do care what people think of you?

>tfw to inteligents for 600's and got 650's instead

>>59152346
>>59152341
I don't care about looking like a faggot, but open cans sound like shit on a subway train, believe me I've tried.

>>59152355
Just get Fulla 2s.

>>59152361
Have you tried the HD600s? I can't imagine them sounding anything but perfect in any situation.

>>59152403
Only with Fulla 2s. Else, it would sound like chink shit.

If a pair of cans were about 20-30 dollars cheaper in a much uglier color but they sounded good, would it be worth it?

>>59152501
Only with HD 600s.

>Budget
Preferably under 100 buckaroos
>Location
Scandinavia
>Type
Full-sized headset, with microphone
>Open or closed
I'm more used to open
>Comfort level
More or less what I care about the most
>Past headphones
Cheap disposable trash like Sennheiser PC3.

I figure I could just buy some cheap Sennheiser again since I'm not much of an audiophile, but are there any particular ones worth checking out?

>>59152626
Save up and buy HD 600s and Fulla 2s.

>>59152626
Donate blood a couple of times and buy the HD600s

>>59152626
SHP9500 + Vmoda BoomPro

>>59152626
HD 600 most definitely

>>59152626
Sennheiser GAME ONE

new thread

>>59152739
>>59152739
>>59152739

>>59152015
If you get an amp then you wont be able to use the mod mic, it'll create a ground loop.