Well, yet another AMD processor release thats dead on arrival.

Why are fanboys still trying to defend intel?

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Oy! AMD is dead. BUY INTEL 4 CORES

>>59131839
>more cores
>less prices
Op is a faggot

>>59131839
>Intel slashes prices making Ryzen completely noncompetitive
anon, i...

>>59131839
>but they did slash price of 4core/8threads
>that makes this Ferrari non-competitive no more

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>>59131839

Must be pretty embarrassing to dump years and billions into R&D only to have your product invalidated thanks to a simple price drop.

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Sure is a coincidence that all this shilling ramped up into over drive immediately after AMD's last press event.

>>59131839
Here's your anthem goyim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U7RXYTG-6c

>>59131839
So they've dropped the prices on all their CPUs by 45%? No? Guess it's still not competitive then, Mr.Shill.

Even if they did that, they could be prosecuted for dumping.

I'm going to buy ho ryzen out of pity

Intel has its own Foundries though. AMD lost theirs. They are locked into a situation of higher fees while they beg for others to cut their chips.

It's also why NVIDIA still exists. They are a cartel with AMD on the PC GPU patents but both don't have their own Foundries.

If the patents were open both NVIDIA and AMD would be dead and chips would be faster and cheaper.

>intel slashes prices

That's all I cared about. Decent competition so Intel is forced to stop charging so much.

Reposting a good quote from another thread:

The fact that they have to cut prices proves that they have to compete with AMD. It shows they're scared about losing market share, even in the low volume HEDT segment.
This change in pricing structure will change the entire product line up for them, and if revenue from PC sales is down at the end of the year they'll have to explain to investors that a company 1/10th their size is forcing their hand, and thats bad for investor confidence.

Zen being this close to Broadwell - Kaby Lake is a clear threat to them. If it were a single flash in the pan it would illicit such a heavy handed response. Zen+ is going to have parity with Cannonlake.
Intel's per clock performance lead is virtually gone, their process lead is pretty close to worthless. The only segment intel is hanging on in is the mainstream with their highly clocked quad core parts, and they have nowhere left to go there. Power per core in Kaby Lake at 4.2ghz is already 21.5w. They're always extremely far outside of the ideal clocking range for efficiency, and they're not going to be squeezing any more out of their 14nm node.

>>59132140
Yes but less cores is better in the real world sweetie, not all of us sit and unpack 7zip files all day.

Intel knew the future exactly. They kept improving every year so since the last time AMD didn't manage to do much of anything different at all, they still have slower cores, they still try to push the stupidity to gullible people that only offline rendering matters.

It's not even Intel's fault. Most stupid people don't realize how hard it is to shrink the transistor nowadays. The photolithography alone is extremely hard, and soon we will start hitting severe quantum mechanical limitations.

If the children of /g/ knew how the real world works, they would be researching new ways to get away from the silicon paradigm because Intel knows it is soon to be dead stop in progress.

>>59132158
Thank you Pajeet. $0.10 has been deposited in your bank account.

>>59132158
yes goy, all you need is a quad core!

>>59132114
AMD never fabed their own GPUs

>>59132070
>from charlie

wood screw charlie?

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>>59132172
>they still have slower cores

No they don't

>>59132177
When they were competitive on CPUs, they did, which is the topic here.

>>59132187
They own doctored benchmarks with cherry picked intel chips to make them look good show them ~25% slower. Only gullible people will fall into the meme again. It's exactly what they tried to pull last time.

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>>59132158
>The only use for multiple cores is unzipping files

Shilltel please.

I'm not a gaymer. You can put both AMD and Intel among with your opinions about them into your ass.

>>59131839

Intel is in FULL damage control. The fact that they are 24'7 shitposting on 4chan is kinda a proof of this.

If 4chan made Trump president, 4chan can make AMD great again.

Fuck off Intelshills.

>>59132158
>sweetie
>7zip
>this meta condescending tumblr/reddit/twitter shitposting

Thats cute.
Its like you're trying really hard to imitate CTR.

>>59132182
Thats the one.


>>59132200
You've got to try a lot harder. if someone is actually paying you for this they're wasting their money.

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>>59132200
>doctored benchmarks
>they literally had a setup people could test common benchmarks on, live, right alongside Intel's best

Holy fuck you shills better step up your game, you aren't going to convince any goys with that nonsense. You won't get any shekel bonuses at this rate.

I wanted Ryzen after seeing the benchmarks, then I remembered how bad AMD drivers are. Not worth the hassle in my opinion, rather just pay a little more for a platform I trust, like Intel.

>>59132220
> I'm incapable to observe the data, therefore I'm talking with AMD or Intel shills
go back to your mommy kid.

>>59132158
Even when I still use Foobar2000 in Windows I can initiate 6 converter threads to convert a whole-CD music files into smaller tracks. With just an Phenom II X6. Super comfy as fuck.
And it's 2017 and you tell me quad-core is sufficient.

>>59132234
>I am incapable to observe AMD's own propaganda data, therefore I'm talking with professional shills
go cry to your mommy kiddo, the rest of us will laugh at you next time you cry "I fell for the AMD meme"

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>>59132200
>25% slower [than incel CPUs clocked 25% higher]
hmmmmmm

Wait, AMD is still putting exposed pins on the CPU instead of the motherboard? Fuck this I'm buying a 7700K.

>>59132243
>>59132268
This is just super low effort. The whole condescending feminine tone thing doesn't work, you should have learned that by now.

>>59132243
>go back to your mommy kid.
>>59132268
>go cry to your mommy kiddo

Does Intel hand you a guidebook for this shit?

We all know Ryzen will thermal throttle like shit, atleast with Intel you get the performance that's advertised.

Heres is a NON FAKE NEWS quick rundown:

>Initial leaks show unanimously that Zen is devastating i7 for $500 cheaper

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>>59132289
>intel ends production of that motherboard chipset after 2 years
>pin bends on motherboard
>sorry goy just buy a new CPU too! :^)

Pretty sure that dollar for dollar Intel will still be better, plus have you seen the prices on Ryzen compatible motherboards? Not to mention reduced Linux compatability.

>>59132307
>Ryzen will thermal throttle like shit
>soldered ihs

Doubt it

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>>59132307
>65w-95w
>Throttling

What?

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>le I only need 100% multiprocessing le meme
serial performance will be always required on interactive applications
unless you never actual sit on a computer and only encode x265

stupid people have the delusion it's a matter of progress
it's not a matter of progress, it's a mathematical fact you will always require serial performance on CPUs
this is because interactive application must always adhere to the rules of a global loop

you can cry all you want to your mommy for your next game to be "100% multiprocessed" but it will never happen kiddo
it's how mathematics works.
you will always need strong threads not only in gaming, but in anything that required human input, including setting up your Photoshop before you actually render, which is 99% of the time you actually use a computer

This whole Ryzen shit will be a week long fad just like Bulldozer and Piledriver. Me? I'm sticking with Intel.

>>59132330
The first motherboards are always the most expensive

amd experience:

>buy a laptop with an amd gpu on board
>NEW DRIVERS AVAILABLE
>alright, download them, why not
>DOWNLOADING
>CHECKING
>"COMPONENTS ALREADY INSTALLED"
>uhhh, ok?
>literally nothing changed
>day later
>NEW DRIVERS AVAILABLE
>hmm, maybe I'll download it straight from their website and just uninstall these ones?
>go to control panel
>try to uninstall
>STOP FAMPAI, WINDOWS REQUIRES CERTIFIED DRIVERS FOR YOU TO DO THAT
>...wat

thank you based amd :^)

>>59132330
>have you seen the prices on Ryzen compatible motherboards?
The $50 shit motherboards are coming when Ryzen's low end versions appear.

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>This whole Ryzen shit will be a week long fad just like Bulldozer and Piledriver. Me? I'm sticking with Intel.

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>>59131839
>Intel slashes prices making Ryzen completely noncompetitive

mySides.exe

AMD chips are too unreliable in my experience, plus you don't get features like Speedstep and the like.

>>59132343
That's nice and all, fuckface, but it doesn't matter because Ryzen's single core performance is only slightly lower than Intel's. And Zen+ is going to easily match it, maybe even beat it.

(Don't even think of dredging up MHz comparisons, you know that myth died almost two decades ago, right?)

>>59132343
Zen is on par with Broadwell in IPC.
Skylake/Kaby Lake is only 2.7% on average ahead of Broadwell.

You shills just aren't trying hard enough.

>>59132330
Top end X370 boards are $200.
Top end X99 boards are $300-$500.

I just don't think Ryzen offers a compelling value, I'll stay with Kaby Lake for now.

>>59132158
>I only run one program at a time, all single threaded
lmao

>>59132373
At these prices you have to be an idiot retard not to buy intel. They are practically giving them away

>>59132351
>>buy a laptop with an amd gpu on board
which year was this AMD going stronk in driver game right now

>>59132394
Sunk cost fallacy.

>>59132376
>Speedstep
You mean like PowerNow™

>>59132402
>They are practically giving them away
They should be, seeing as they're obsolete 4c/4t or 4c/8t trash.

>>59132070
knew this would happen

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>Intel shills in full damage control
What a time to be alive

>>59132243
>>59132268
>This obvious scripted posts
Holy shit it's happening

>>59132411
Actually I'm upgrading my old system, I work hard so I don't mind paying a few extra dollars for a better architecture that will last.

>>59132241
> CPU
> Drivers

Pick one.

Inb4: Yeah, there is such a things as microcode, but it's mostly power management stuff.

Looks like it's back to the drawing board for AMD, these Intel chips are smokin' fast boys. Don't forget less faster cores will always beat more slow ones.

>>59132406
december 2016 :)

>>59132489
>Intel
>a better architecture that will last

OH FUCK MY SIDES

If this is the best bullshit you shills can cook up, Intel is fucking doomed.

>>59132489
>a few extra dollars
>for half the performance

Okay.

>>59132525
You're right, I bet all the kids who bought Piledriver are super happy with them in 2017 (they won't be).

Meanwhile Sandy Bridge is still a strong platform, though ofcorse you should always update to the newest line of Intel processors for the optimum speed and feature set.

>>59132330
>Pretty sure that dollar for dollar Intel will still be better
Only DAMAGE CONTROL shills can say such a thing when AMD releases all of Intel's "EXTREME" CPUs for less than HALF THE PRICE!

> Not to mention reduced Linux compatability.
Linux has been getting Ryzen updates for over a year now. The last ones (4.9 and 4.10) have been mostly power management stuff (For what I remember).

>>59132345
>Me? I'm shilling for Intel.
FTFY

>>59132553
Intel goes through sockets faster than you go through cocks.

>>59132351
CPU =/= GPU

Only thing that can save amd now is 1600x with unlockable cores trick

>>59132553
>though ofcorse you should always update to the newest line of Intel processors for the optimum speed and feature set.

I'm not sure if you're actually a shill or pretending to be one for the (You)s

>>59132158
THE LESS CORES YOU HAVE THE BETTER PROCESSOR YOU HAVE

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST FOLKS

QUICKLY BUY ALL THE PRESCOTT SINGLE CORE 125W PENTIUMS!!!1!1ONE!!

My god. Intel is fucking spooked.

So much FUD being flung, attempts at controlling the media, attempts at controlling the narrative.

This is what you get for getting lazy and complacent while charging customers disgusting prices.

>>59132598

AMD just fucked Intel so hard their shills went stupid.

>>59132615
I'm gonna get an i3, they have SMMMMMMMMMMOKIN' HOT single core performance.

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>>59132615
Remember goys cores don't matter so buy the new i3 k series for your gaymin.

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>>59132617
Luckily intel were jews

if they had sold the CPUs at a fair price maybe AMD wouldn't be around today

>>59132070
so, any bets on reviews?
personally I trust guru3d because Intel stopped any kind of PR relation in Europe except UK probably because germans adn dutch told them to fuck off several times

>>59132634
Naw senpai they got this shit on lock.

Alright AMDrones listen up

Single core performance matters the MOST because the vast majority of people are basing their processor purchasing decisions off of how much additional frames per second they can get in games, the more the better. Fuck everything else.

Even a slight advantage and people will take Intel Every. Time. Even if it's slightly more expensive, it becomes the "premium product"

Only NEET anime watchers care about multicore performance. So there, /g/ has its own processor now. Too bad that the majority of people are buying for gaming performance, Ryzen is a flop and the next bulldozer, and no one buys the $1k Intel chips anyways LOL.

>>59132343
>what is Gustafson's law

>>59132661
>Even a slight advantage and people will take Intel Every.

>slight advantage
>at 50% of the price
Not everyone is an incelcuck

>>59132655
>Implying Intel couldn't snuff AMD out at any time and this isn't just AMD struggling in its gimp suit while a few people ask if someone heard muffled grunts.

>>59132114
you realize fabs are a money sink if they make only one thing? why do you think intel that scared to lose marketshare? because it will hit them much harder than it did AMD back in 2009

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>open task manager
>have more than 4 processes / services running
Heh I could have 40 core processor and it wouldn't be enough

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>>59132661
>even gaymen are now multi-threaded
>DUDE SINGLE THREAD PERFORMANCE
>continues to ignore that Ryzen has higher IPC than babby lake

>>59132661

how is life in 2010?

>>59132661
>Even a slight advantage and people will take it every time

So I guess when more games start taking advantage of multiple cores (this is already happening), AMD will be the only good choice. Nice thinking there, buddy.

>>59132708
DX12 and Vulkan have been released for what, 2 years now? And there are only a handful of games that support it? Maybe in 5 years AMD will be better but they will be bankrupt by then.

>>59132697
Heh well that's where you're wrong kiddo, I have -1 cores and my computer couldn't be faster.

Only way to solve this debate is a gladiator type event with poos versus Jews

>>59132220
>Thats the one.
Into the fucking garbage that goes. All he does is make shit up to make companies look bad to drive traffic into his monetized, paywalled blog.

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So should i sell my 6700K and get an AMD build instead?, or what

>>59132772
I'd watch it.

>>59131839
Intell shills hard at work i see

>>59132708
>DX12 and Vulkan have been released for what, 2 years now?

Vulkan has only been released for a year

DX12 was released with win10

>>59132661
>and no one buys the $1k Intel chips anyways LOL.
First is was "AMD poopfags" and "Look at us Intel shills with MONEY"
Not it's "All we buy is 200-300$ chips LOL" and "AMD is for the rich"

DAMAGE CONTROL TO MAJOR TOM!

>>59132663
It's diminishing returns law, that shows that about 500 cores is max we will get out of CPU cores.

>>59132793
WRONG REPLY
>>59132761

>>59132793
And until they are widely used Intel is the performance KING

>>59132761
DX12 has been out about 1,5 years and Vulkan turned 1 last week.

The number of games with them may not be all that impressive if you think the development time of a game is only a few months, but it's actually pretty good when you consider that the development time of most AAA games is 3-4 years.

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>>59132784
I'm selling my 5960x system to build a 1800x pc.

>>59132850
Literally why? You can overclock Haswell-Es much better than either Ryzen or Broadwell-E

>>59132114
Intel will spin off its foundry as soon as their production volume gets lower. Having a foundry is a big responsibility and does not necessarily make things cheaper or make your process more competitive.

>>59132158
>less cores is better
>because Im a millennial that only use s my computer for Facebook and Netflix.
I don't think you belong to the segment they are marketing too with the 8/16 chips. You fucking inbred faggot idiot. I'm so salty I've transformed into a GODDAMN saltine cracker.

Intel has yet to even show their hand yet. AMD's entire fan base are basing their opinions from a handful of misleading benchmarks in which the Intel chips are still 95% competitive. The recent price drop was not in response to Ryzen, it was just a mid-life price cut, same as happens to any product.

Intel has yet to even show their hand yet. AMD's entire fan base are basing their opinions from a handful of misleading benchmarks in which the Intel chips are still 95% competitive. The recent price drop was not in response to Ryzen, it was just a mid-life price cut, same as happens to any product.

>>59132863
The MSI x99s sli plus is absolute garbage. Kept failing. And the RAIDs would get ruined every time the bios restarted. So I stopped OC'ing.

I have to change the mobo if I am to keep this system.

Too much work. My cousin wants to buy this system for a good price. So it's easier to build a new system.

I'm just waiting to see Adobe After Effects and Premiere Pro benchmarks for 1800x.

Intel has yet to even show their hand yet. AMD's entire fan base are basing their opinions from a handful of misleading benchmarks in which the Intel chips are still 95% competitive. The recent price drop was not in response to Ryzen, it was just a mid-life price cut, same as happens to any product.

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>same as happens to any product.

>>59132241
>My cpu drivers are shit
Lolololololol

>>59132917
>making up shit to pretend you're a Haswell-E owner dumb enough to downgrade to Ryzen
Hang yourself, cuck

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>>59132909
>>59132908
>>59132924
Oy vey, keep it up Pajeet, 40 Intel Hyper Cloud Computing points have been deposit into your account.

>>59132345
Lol. Le shill meme

>>59132951
Intel has yet to even show their hand yet. AMD's entire fan base are basing their opinions from a handful of misleading benchmarks in which the Intel chips are still 95% competitive. The recent price drop was not in response to Ryzen, it was just a mid-life price cut, same as happens to any product.

I don't give a shit about synthetic benchmarks

Is the ryzen going to trump the new kaby lakes that are hitting 5ghz for gayming?

>>59132951
Intel has yet to even show their hand yet. AMD's entire fan base are basing their opinions from a handful of misleading benchmarks in which the Intel chips are still 95% competitive. The recent price drop was not in response to Ryzen, it was just a mid-life price cut, same as happens to any product

>>59132979
What is their hand? Tell us please

>>59132990
Intel has yet to even show their hand yet. AMD's entire fan base are basing their opinions from a handful of misleading benchmarks in which the Intel chips are still 95% competitive. The recent price drop was not in response to Ryzen, it was just a mid-life price cut, same as happens to any product.

>>59132948

Is it a wrong decision?

Maybe I should just buy a decent mobo and overclock this PC?

Honestly, do you guys think my 5960x outperforms 1800x? Please note that I don't game, and work is with Adobe After Effects and Preimere Pro.

>>59132279
Well that scenario would suggest they're 93.75% as fast. But don't let math stop you.

Intel has yet to even show their hand yet. AMD's entire fan base are basing their opinions from a handful of misleading benchmarks in which the Intel chips are still 95% competitive. The recent price drop was not in response to Ryzen, it was just a mid-life price cut, same as happens to any product

>>59132979
>same as happens to any product.
Not with intel. Intel never reduces prices, ever.
So them reducing prices now in a weird coincidence with Ryzen looking hella competitive. I mean, they never reduce prices and they just happen to feel generous and cut prices right about when Ryzen drops?
wow, talk about timing. It's almost as if they did it on purpose as a response, since if there wasn't an AMD competitor, price cuts on their previous line would compete with their next line of insubstantial CPUs

>>59131839
Working hard today, Shlomo?

gonna stretch the life out of my current PC for as long as i can, but i'm glad intel is having ass pain

building PCs is a pain due to the chance of parts needing to be RMA'd, i don't know how you fags put up with it. or maybe i just have really bad luck

>>59132300
Yes, he'll tell us to kill ourselves in a moment.

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Please help me:
>>59133015

>>59133051
>>59133015
Intel has yet to even show their hand yet. AMD's entire fan base are basing their opinions from a handful of misleading benchmarks in which the Intel chips are still 95% competitive. The recent price drop was not in response to Ryzen, it was just a mid-life price cut, same as happens to any product.

>>59133015
AMD's benchmarks showing Ryzen beating an i7-6900K are marketing ploys. Ryzen isn't even on par with Haswell-E when it comes to raw single thread performance. Plus, it's been confirmed that the maximum overclock Ryzen 7 1800X can hold is 4.4GHz, which is nothing compared to the 5960X's ability to hit 4.6GHz on all cores.
You're literally trading two memory channels, faster memory speed support, higher overclocking headroom, and a better platform for a meme marketing chip with the roughly the same IPC as Haswell-E.
Hang yourself, you blatant AMD marketing shill

>>59133082
>roughly the same IPC as Haswell-E.
At what, a third of the price?

>>59132908
>>59132909
> AMD's entire fan base are basing their opinions from a handful of misleading benchmarks in which the Intel chips are still 95% competitive.
$1100 CPU being beaten by a $400 CPU.

>This level of DAMAGE CONTROL
https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Ryzen-1700X-14.png

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>>59133082
> Ryzen isn't even on par with Haswell-E when it comes to raw single thread performance.

HAHAHAHA

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>>59133082
>>59133069

Ok I didn't know. I mean, changing my mobo just seemed like a big pain in the ass that I was willing to build an entire new system!

Also my cpu fan is Noctua NH-D15. Can I really OC my 5960x?

>>59133082
>beating an i7-6900K are marketing ploys.
>sysmark +15% every intel generation

no, goy, buy our QUAD cores, they are 15% better every time you buy them!

>>59133109
A third of the price for a third of the product. You pay less for dual-channel memory, 16 lanes of PCIe 3.0, lower memory clock limits, less SATA ports, and weaker CPU power delivery.

>>59133140
>using a single metric benchmark to prove your point

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>>59133140
Wait, that's my 5960x right there, being beaten.

Who is telling the truth here? Should I sell my system and get a 1800x to build around it? Or upgrade my mobo and OC my 5960x? FUCK.

>>59133161
24 lanes. At least lie believably.

>>59133019
wo t

>>59133140
>babby lake btfo by AMD's biggest flop
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

rly makes u thonk

>>59133178
>Who is telling the truth here?
The benchmark is literally for a single component of the Passmark benchmark. Single-threaded benchmarks show the 1800X not even keeping pace with the 6900K at the same clock speed.
Keep lying AMDrones

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>>59133178
get AMD RAM, SSD,CPU and GPU
you can also paint it RED

coюз нepyшимый pecпyблик мoгyчих!

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>>59132661
>Single core performance matters the MOST
well shit time to come up with a new argument then. quick somebody post the gayme benchmark where the non-overclocked 1700 is only 5 frames behind!

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>>59133181
>24 lanes
Not according to AMD :^)

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>>59133178
It isn't a tremendous performance lead, then again Broadwell is only a 3.3% uplift from Haswell, So Broadwell-E isn't a huge upgrade either.
You'll be fine keeping the system you have.

>>59133198
Try again, little shill.
Clock for clock Zen is slightly ahead of Haswell in the single thread metric too.

>>59133210
>AMDrones resorting to clock-per-clock comparsions
>forgets that Kaby Lake can hit 4.8GHz on all cores and Ryzen CAN'T

>>59133211
oh you can't read, okay

>>59133232
Where's Broadwell-E? Oh wait, you can't show it because Broadwell-E BTFO out of Ryzen core-per-core.

>>59133241
>Kaby Lake can hit 4.8GHz on all cores and Ryzen CAN'T

>not a single kaby lake 8 core part

>>59133255
Looks like you can't
>PCIe
>x16 Gen3

>>59133241
>forgets to mention that Ryzen has twice the cores and threads at the same price and lower TDP
wew laddy

>>59133232
Strong float point performance too

>>59133211
These are for the chipsets, shill.
Ryzen is an SOC, with 32 native PCI-E 3.0 lanes. 8 are used to communicate with the chipset, leaving 24 native available.


>>59133258
Broadwell is only a 3.3% average uplift over Haswell.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/9

Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge: Average ~5.8% Up
Ivy Bridge to Haswell: Average ~11.2% Up
Haswell to Broadwell: Average ~3.3% Up
Broadwell to Skylake (DDR3): Average ~2.4% Up
Broadwell to Skylake (DDR4): Average ~2.7% Up

>>59133258
>Broadwell-E BTFO
It would be the same as Haswell-e lmfao

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>>59133285

>>59133082
>AMD's benchmarks showing Ryzen beating an i7-6900K are marketing ploys
It was a live demonstration you shekelsucking shill
>Ryzen isn't even on par with Haswell-E when it comes to raw single thread performance
Wrong, asshole.
>Plus, it's been confirmed that the maximum overclock Ryzen 7 1800X can hold is 4.4GHz, which is nothing compared to the 5960X's ability to hit 4.6GHz on all cores.
MUH SINGLE CORE
Obselete.
MUH MEGAHURTZ
This myth died in early 2000's, try and keep up.

Bet those hook nose rats are scurrying about to come up with something that can beat ryzen.

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>>59133305
>muh AVX512

>>59133324
They're going to slash the price on the i7 6900K to $700, totally disrupt their whole pricing scheme top to bottom.

Sucks to be anyone who bought a Broadwell-E chip recently.

They haven't cut prices in Norway

>>59133324
see >>59132070

>>59133308
>It was a live demonstration you shekelsucking shill
Of a benchmark which was proven to be edited so that AMD CPUs could perform a little better (they disabled AVX2 on Intel Broadwell because lo-and-behold AMD can't even into modern instruction sets)
>Wrong, asshole.
>>59133232
Way to prove yourself wrong Poojeet
>MUH SINGLE CORE
>Obselete.
>MUH MEGAHURTZ
Then why are your benchmarks showing Ryzen and Haswell-E compared clock-per-clock, core-for-core? You can't even believe your own bullshit.

>>59133346
oilniggers can pay full price

All I care is about IPC. Since I mostly use emulators (Cemu for example taxes my 6700k @ 4.5Ghz to the limit)
Does Ryzen have the same IPC than Skylake-Kablylake? And can it OC to past 4.5Ghz?

This is literally the only thing that matters to me, so someone without trolling please tell me the truth.

Look. Intel is just the superior, premium product. You honestly think people are going to switch to AMD? Why would people want to become outcasts like you?

Intel processors will always be better. Get over it you fucking nerds.

Intel = More Pussy
AMD = Incel babies who never get laid

>>59131839
>Intel slashes prices making Ryzen completely noncompetitive
kek, like that's ever going to happen

Nice try though mr shill man

>>59133353
>better (they disabled AVX2

Nothing besides hand coded assembly can even use SSE
lmfao

>>59132784
yeah you should if you want to have a workstation that can also play some games decently, the 16 threads are going to be killer especially since AMDs SMT threads > Intels Hyperthreads

I only play high end emulators(PCSX2, Dolphin, Cemu, CitRa, RPCS3, Xenia) and weeb shit on steam

Am I better off with Ryzen or spending $250 at Microcenter on a 6600k and Mobo?

Single threaded performance matters most in emulation, yes?

>>59132158
More cores is better.
I'm not a retard and parallelize my shit. My high performance projects eat up all the cores they can.

>>59132158
i thought if something was compressed on a single core it had to be uncompressed on a single core

so basically a higher clock speed is good for unpacking 7z files, not more cores with lower clock speed

>>59133353
Aww, whats the matter, shill?
Feeling outnumbered? Can't keep up with the multiple anons all pushing your shit in?

Your claim that Ryzen wasn't on par with Haswell-E is 100% empirically false. The Zen core is faster than Haswell, even beating Broadwell is several metrics.
Skylake is only another 2.7% uplift from Broadwell, and Kaby Lake is nothing but a patch of Skylake, IPC is exactly the same.

AMD's core arch is competing directly with intel's. Zen+ is going to push their shit in. Cannonlake will be dead in the water.

>>59133402
Depends on the Emu

What GPU are you using?

>>59133367
Ryzen has a better IPC, but because it can't clock as high as the Intel variants its going to be btfo by Intels 4 cores, so you might as well keep your Skylake 6700k, otherwise just wait till the 2nd of March

>>59133429
Upgrading to an RX 480 8GB soon.

>>59132398
Even in multi-threaded applications, multiple cores are only beneficial if the threads don't interact with each other much. Main benefit of multi-threading is that the CPU can do other work while waiting for I/O, multicore only helps with algorithms that are actually paralellized (i.e. not many unless you're doing scientific computing).

>>59133431
Most users don't bother with overclocking. Only people on /g/ or other enthusiast communities bother with that shit.

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INCEL AND NOVIDEO ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THEIR CRIMES
>https://www.wired.com/2009/12/ftc-sues-intel-for-anti-competitive-practices/
>https://techreport.com/news/8547/does-intel-compiler-cripple-amd-performance
>http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49#49
>http://www.pcworld.com/article/3086895/hardware/eu-court-has-intel-inside-appealing-14-billion-antitrust-fine.html
>http://www.anandtech.com/show/2443
>http://hothardware.com/news/new-nvidia-drivers-disable-physx-if-a-nonnvidia-gpu-is-detected
>http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20100119134616_AMD_Accuses_Nvidia_of_Disabling_Multi_Core_CPU_Support_in_PhysX_API.html
>http://hothardware.com/news/indepth-analysis-of-dx11-crysis-shows-highly-questionable-tessellation-usage
>https://www.cryengine.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=355&t=80565
>https://www.techpowerup.com/165707/tsmc-gives-nvidia-priority-for-28-nm-manufacturing
>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-06-10/ex-amd-workers-at-nvidia-lose-bid-to-end-secrets-lawsuit
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/05/26/why-watch-dogs-is-bad-news-for-amd-users-and-potentially-the-entire-pc-gaming-ecosystem/

>>59133440
Go with the Intel

AMD will take a few more months to come out with a quadcore

>>59133431
BTFO in what? 2005 games where you already have 200 FPS? Oh yes, another 10 FPS please, thank you.

Modern games can utilize more than 4 cores.

And do you honestly never do anything else intensive other than games? Kek.

If you buy AMD, you're buying an inferior product. Intel is the proven processor brand and always will be. Get. Over. It.

>>59132863
If you have to overclock in the first place it means you have a shitty CPU.

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>>59132646
My northwood HT was fucking epic.

>>59132158
>sweetie
First of all, >>>/lgbt/

>muh $400 AMD processors are better than $1100 Intel CPUs
>ignoring that most Intel users have computers that cost less than $400 in the first place

AMD is garbage. Literally. AMD pollutes the planet and contributes to climate change. Intel is the ethical choice.

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>>59133547
And it was inside a "lap"top.

>>59133542
AMD is the most LGBT friendly tech corporation there is. Fuck off if you support racists and bigots.

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>>59131839
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>>59133542
What a time to be alive, look at all these Intel shills on full damage control.

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>>59133571

>>59131839
>Muh IPC
Go back to /v/, this is an 18+ board

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>>59133584
>SiS graphics

>>59133600
/v/ doesn't know what IPC is.

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>>59133575
True anon, but I think this one is better,

I plan on buying Kaby Lake because I trust the performance benchmarks and reviews that have come out. When it comes to AMD, it's just hot air, it doesn't amount to anything. Ryzen processors aren't even available, it's just another paper launch with limited availability. They're going to be "sold out" for all of 2017 because they have no CPUs to sell. Call me in 2018 when you finally get your shitty processor and I'm rocking my 8-core Cannonlake with 50% improved performance over Kabylake.

>>59133571
>>59133584
Whoever thought sticking Pentium 4s in a laptop was a good idea was fucking insane.

Also, what the fuck kind of laptop is that to have a full size HDD and DIMMs in it?

>>59133575
They'll be pulling out all the stops.
A company doesn't cut $300 off their high end CPU because they think the competition is a joke. They do it when they're facing a real threat.
Intel is beholden to their investors, and they don't want to have to explain losing marketshare to a much smaller company.

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>>59133620
No, nvidia FX graphics and SiS chipset.

>>59133638
>aren't even available
because actual launch is march 02

>>59133669
>Acer
this explains so much

>>59133640
>Whoever thought sticking Pentium 4s in a laptop was a good idea was fucking insane.

Bribes overcome common sense.

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>>59133640
Too bad you can't appreciate the size of the PSU.

I loved that portable pile of crap.

The HDD was a special version of 3.5 drive, something with a very low amperage, i can't recall the spec, but you could't just shove in the first 3.5 drive you had found.

The amount of people who don't know jack shit about Zen, or why Cannon Lake is not going to have eight cores or high enough IPC improvements to properly counter Zen+ is incredible. You are all going to be in for a nice treat when the NDA lifts - it won't be faster than Kaby Lake, sure, but it will see performance parity with Kaby Lake at identical clock speeds. Ryzen's IMC is good, the motherboard support is good, the stock coolers have fucking RGBs on then, and overall it's just a nice, solid platform.

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>>59133688
Before 2006 Acer was bretty gut.

>>59133740
Performance parity with Skylake, not Kaby Lake. My mistake.

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>>59133752
The original CPU.

>>59133740
Care to explain why any normie would even NEED 8 cores? Might make sense if you're doing rendering or running a server, but for normal use it provides nothing but bragging rights.

>>59133740
I think it mostly comes down to one thing:not a single sandy owner wants to buy intel again

>>59133774
Well then, normie.
Get a i3 or Pentium, not a $500 CPU for work.

>>59133740
Why do they call it Cannonlake? Because Intel execs and stockholders will be firing themselves out of a cannon.

>>59133774
>normies all by samsung phones with 8 cores
nuff said

>>59133695
Unfortunately true.

>>59133734
As the owner of a P4 laptop I think i can actually. The brick might not be as big as the one on that laptop, but its definitely up there. The laptop itself weighs a goddamned ton. That alone was the reason why I snagged a Athlon XP-M laptop later on.

>>59133774
>you don't NEED more than 2Gb of RAM

>>59132784
If you need 8 cores, sure. Otherwise, it would be more of a sidegrade, probably not worth your trouble.

>>59133784
It's actually all the Broadwell-Kaby buyers with buyers remorse.
Even they can't swallow losing 80% MT for 5% ST

>>59133774
Playing a game, talking on skype, running an AV scan, and downloading music all at the same time with no performance impact.
Multicore CPUs aren't just good in singular well threaded workloads. They're good at handling multiple workloads at once.
Not to mention gaming while streaming.

>>59133490
Intel's process is less dense and technically inferior to the one developed by GloFo/Samsung. Their 10nm process isn't even working properly, and already IBM has 7nm dies taped out, even if they're not that advanced yet.

If you buy Intel, you're supporting a monopolistic company that willingly breaks the law for market share gains and will stop at nothing to make sure AMD doesn't regain market share.

>>59133833
didn't samsung became first to mass produce 10nm recently? they started mobile chips I think

>be leaf
>prices 400-700 for ryzen
>7700k 450

>>59133860
Yes, they're producing the Qualcomm Snapdragon 835, and their own Exynos chips.
Though intel fans will be quick to point out that Samsung's 10nm node isn't as dense as intel's. Its the only straw they have left to hold on to.

>>59131861
>>59131876
>>59132070
>>59132140
>>59132655
>>59132368
>>59133575
>>59133572
>>59133475
>>59133420
>>59133331
>>59133210
>>59133211
>>59133232
>>59133140

HAHAHAHAHA, OH WOW. Look at all of the AMD shills in this thread doing damage control. Got another shitty processor from AMD and now all you can do is shill.

Shills BTFO.

>>59133887
ebin :^)

I've been hearing that 8 Zen cores at 4.0GHz use 135W average, that's 16.8 watts per core, now I don't exactly know the power voltage scaling at lower clocks but I can deduce something from the 1700 running at 3.0.

I think AMD can fit 32 cores at 2.7GHz under 180W TDP, which seems pretty amazing.

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>>59133887
don't hate, join us

>>59133868
Retailers in Canada haven't got the memo yet. I haven't seen a single price drop.

>>59133887
I still have an FX8350 and have never been disappointed by it.
I don't even OC it.
Don't need to.

Maybe Intel will make more money. But you should want AMD to exist so Intel doesn't jack their prices up even more.

>>59133868
how does feel to have prices worse than in soviet russia?

>>59133929
Because only Microcenter dropped prices so far, others only did so by $5 or something symbolic.

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>b-but mah gayms don't use more than 4 cores....

>>59133949
>I still have an FX8350 and have never been disappointed by it.
This is why this board needs IDs. Everything this person posts can now be safely ignored.

>>59132402
OY VEY BUY INTEL .

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>tfw upgrading from a 4790k/GTX780 to 1700X/RX480 next week
>tfw will put my 480 in a reserve setup and get Vega at launch

>>59133994
It's clear the game can't scale past 8 threads tho

Can't wait for Ryzen 5 so incelfags will shut up about core maymays

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>>59133903
Uncore power draw is roughly 15w in Ryzen.
Stock 1800X at 3.6ghz sees a power per core of about 10w, the extra 400mhz to reach 4ghz increases it to 15w.

The benefits of being a smaller core, and having tons of power saving IP. Its the silver lining to the Bulldozer family really. AMD was forced to come up with new technology to try and make the Bulldozer family salvageable, and we see how it played out in the Excavator arch in Carrizo and Bristol Ridge. A big high clocking module turned into a moderate clocking low power tiny design. All of that IP was put into Zen.
Carrizo has around 500 sensing paths for monitoring power and thermals in the core. Ryzen has 1300.

>>59133431
>it can't clock as high as the Intel variants
because it's harder to get more stable cores, don't be surprised when the r5 1600x and 1400x end up being better for gaming because of easier overclocking potential, just like intels mainstream i7 and i5 cpus.

>>59133695
I also had a toshiba laptop with a 3.06ghz desktop p4, the thing was a portable furnace and shat itself eventually.

>>59134032
>>It's clear the game can't scale past 8 threads tho
Those are 14 games.
Also threads != cores, a 7700k has 8 threads but they barely give a 20% under synthetics.

When a stock 6900k that will run some 3.6GHz turbos in games beats a 7700k that turbos to 4.5Ghz then you know 4 cores became a joke, what would happen if you overclocked the 6900k to 4.4? The 7700k would get obliterated, a 500MHz delided OC won't save it.

>>59133995
What are you doing that requires a top of the line CPU anyways?
You know all the most recent videogames perform just fine with my CPU, though I hardly have time to play them these days.

>>59134089
>what would happen if you overclocked the 6900k to 4.4
Your house would burn down

>>59134123
Nah, you need to run some AVX2 loads for true housefire.

>>59134123
Same thing with a 5.0 7700k

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>>59131839
>>Intel slashes prices making Ryzen completely noncompetitive

So... just like that? Aren't CPUs like, expensive?

>>59134104
The issue isn't that I necessarily "need" something better, it's that you're in here shoving your biased and stupid opinions in everyone's face. You chose an inferior product at a similar price point and you're here to rationalize that for all to see. Some people care about making the best choice, not engaging in post-purchase rationalization.

>>59133376
The amount of shilling is mind boggling.

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>>59131839

>>59133774
Eight cores, not so much. We at least need to advance beyond eight threads, because software is starting to catch up and become more heavily threaded. There are some realistic cases where more threads do make sense for normobs.

For example, torrents are usually single-threaded in nature, and if you A) don't have high single-core performance and, B) don't have enough threads, you may run into issues like having no single torrent reaching a maximum speed higher than 50MB/s (that's not a real number, but close to what some people do deal with). Eking out performance from a NAS is also somewhat CPU-reliant when you go over gigabit, and 10Gb connections can start chewing up significant amounts of CPU time.

Browsers are also becoming more threaded, and Chrome loves extra cores and extra RAM. A lot of people are able to get away with running single or dual core chips today with lots of tabs through Firefox's single-tab load, but that's changed now. Some websites also load themselves up in your browser using more than two threads, and more cores help it feel snappier.

And then you have background processes taking up CPU time thanks to things like Cortana and UWP apps on Windows 10, lots of multi-tasking, games dedicating more than one core to physics tasks or AI and the like - so, some general productivity and OS-related tasks will generaly benefit from this move. We're still in the race-to-idle stage of CPU development despite what Intel says, and thus running multiple things in parallel saves both time and energy.

This isn't to say that most people need to buy an R7 1700 or the X-series chips, far from it. But we've needed to get a leg up from the four-core, eight-thread Core i7 chips for a while now, because most consumers haven't moved on from using four cores since the Q6600 became popular.

>>59133752
is that a desktop pc in a laptop case? is it a portable housefire device too?

>>59133787
The dual core Pentium anniversary edition is /g/'s favorite CPU

>cheap
>heavily OCable
>all you need for gaming is one core

Zen won't dethrone it, only the anime virgins care about multicore

>>59133833
>intel's process is less dense and technically inferior to the one developed by glofo/samsung
(citation needed)

>>59134179
Yeah, because there are no APUs and CPUs with lower cores coming. Retard.

>>59134209
>just you wait until the NEXT release

AMD SHILLS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>59131839
>Intel slashes prices
Retailers slashed prices not Intel

>>59134033
Not to mention that this slide is for Excavator on the 28nm bulk silicon process. The gains from using the new versions of this tech in Zen could be higher.

>>59134224
As opposed to Intel's re-releasing the exact same shit every year, but still changing the socket to make moar shekels?
Boy, better never innovate, then!

>>59134255
>intel has been releasing the same shit year after year and STILL AMD can't compete

Sad!

>>59134224
>lmao this chip doesn't cover my specific retarded needs
>AMD IS FINISHED XDDDDDDDDDDD
Not even Intel releases chips that cover all markets at the same time, stupid shill.

>>59134278
Desktop CPUs are a niche product in 2017, shill.

>>59134268
>gee I wonder why this 10 times smaller company crippled by the large dog takes 5 years to come back
>https://www.wired.com/2009/12/ftc-sues-intel-for-anti-competitive-practices/
>https://techreport.com/news/8547/does-intel-compiler-cripple-amd-performance
>http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49#49
>http://www.pcworld.com/article/3086895/hardware/eu-court-has-intel-inside-appealing-14-billion-antitrust-fine.html

>>59134135
>>>Intel slashes prices making Ryzen completely noncompetitive

Not to mention that if Intel DOES do that, they will royally piss off their shareholders, who would like to continue riding the gravy train they've been on for the last ten years. Chopping off, say $600 on your $1000 chip just to compete with something that's way cheaper to make is not a sensible decision, and will also draw some flak from the tech media and PC enthusiast community.

>>59132307
They will all thermal throttle, yes, to dynamically match core power, clock speeds and voltages to the temperature measurements in 25Hz increments. That is a good thing. Throttles go down AND up - that's the entire point of the X-series chips, which let you adjust their TDP to fit your cooling.

>with Intel you get the performance that's advertised
Broadwell (and later) halves the master clock speed when threads are using both sides of the (huge, usually-unused) AVX2 FPU, to try to keep the TDP within parameters. (Ryzen is weaker in AVX2 because it has an FPU only half the size - but because of that, it does not have to throttle down like this.)

They decided this was a win. It is a performance win, except when there is no reason it could not light them up anyway and pull more current and generate more heat because you've got a big fat cooler on there. Almost all of these parameters are fused, burned in at the Intel factory: they are not adjustable in firmware.

I've never seen Intel advertise that to end-users.

>>59132376
AMD implemented PowerNow in the K6-2+, and Cool'n'Quiet in some of Keller's previous work, the Athlon 64. Intel followed them with SpeedStep.

>>59134140
>The issue isn't that I necessarily "need" something better, it's that you're in here shoving your biased and stupid opinions in everyone's face
Oh the irony.

>You chose an inferior product at a similar price point and you're here to rationalize that for all to see.
Anon...I paid like $100-$150 for this thing a year ago. What competes with it at a similar price point?

>Some people care about making the best choice, not engaging in post-purchase rationalization.
Best is subjective. The best choice for you - to spend as much money as possible for little performance gain - may not appeal to some or even most people.

Would you care to tell us how any of the new CPUs have significantly influenced your life over the old ones?

>>59133887
So let me understand this, it performs as well as the intel processor at 1/4th the price and it's a failure?

How much fucking stock do you have in intel that you're this angry about this lol

>>59134333
Shills don't own stock.

For weeks, the accomplished business thinkers of /g/ scolded me when I said these price cuts were inevitable. Fuck each and every one of you.

>>59134295
That's why there will be products that cover the Mobile and Datacenter markets too, they're just not releasing them at the same time.

>>59134299
>they will royally piss off their shareholders

You absolute moron. If Ryzen undercuts Intel too heavily on pricing, Intel will sell even fewer chips than if they lower their prices maintain competitive pricing.

>>59134344
Shills sure can own stock.
Oprah shilled for weightwatchers after she purchased 6 million shares.

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>>59131839
Great, now AMD will die and Intel will continue to Jew everyone into insiginificant overpriced incremental improvements until the end of time.

How is this good for anyone again?

>>59134359
What pricecuts? Does everyone suddenly live in America near Microcenter or something?

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>Fastest Multicore processor in the world
>Undercut Intel real fucking hard at half the price and power usage

B-but how will an intellectual like me use it for VIDEOGAMES???? AMD IS BANKRUPT. I DONT NEED 8 CORES FOR MUH GAYMES

>>59134412
The price cuts that obviously will continue to roll out.

>>59134385
That's kind of the point to Ryzen's aggressive pricing. Either Intel chops their pricing to match or somewhat respond to AMD, or they keep their pricing (just like they did with the Pentium EE) and try to find ways to stop their inevitable market share drain.

And something tells me that they're not willing to cut prices at all. Look at the Pentium G4560 for example - it's on par with a Core i3-6100, makes buying Kaby Lake Core i3 chips redundant, and costs less than $100. Intel's management prefers to keep the status quo rather than upset the cart, and that's why we have the pointless Core i3-7350K.

>>59134446
You mean the price cuts on AMD when we make another agreement with OEMs not to sell AMD products, Jim :^)

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Phenom II - Last Great AMD chip. Why? Support for both older programs, ex games, so they play as they should and modern programs that require the extra cores. No compromising. It does them both. Combine with lots of ram (16/32GB) and a SSD drive for fast load times and you should be set for a long while yet. Honestly having a 16 core for ex cpu is nice and all but really what will use it? Video encoding maybe. But just for decreased video rendering time you pay a lot of money when you could do say let the pc work while your gone to work or asleep. Spend the money wisely or even better save it for when you actually need it. (Ex, car shits itself cause of broken belt)

>>59134299
you aren't too sharp, are you?

i'm an intel fagboi, but this competition is fucking great, I want to see Intel pull their trump card

>>59134497
>broken belt = car shit itself, need a new car
VW owners...

>>59134488
>falling back on boogeyman arguments

Grab yourself a juice box and think about what you've done.

>>59134497
You'll usually be able to see if a belt is in bad condition

>>59134531
i think you mean BMW owners

>>59134574
Nah, he meant Renault/Citroen/Peugeot owners

>>59134500
I dunno. If the most you can make your reply amount to is an insult to my intelligence, then perhaps I've touched a nerve, and you know I'm right.

Intel has:

- Coffee Lake back at 14nm, because 10nm is not working
- Cannon Lake pulled up ahead of schedule, also on 14nm (an unexpected extension of tick-tock-optimisation)
- Plans for an HEDT LGA 2011-3 successor that will try include cheaper chips, but only in 2019
- Moved to reserve all new process advancements only to the markets that can support the high price of early adoption, which is datacenters and dense server clusters. 10nm rolls out to their datacenter customers long before consumers ever see it, a reversal of their current strategy.

I think they're kind of fucked. Adding Ryzen into the mix just amplifies the headache they have of trying to advance their process technology, and their fabs are also too expensive for most third-parties to consider using them.

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>>59134540
Keep wet dreaming about your price drops, I'm sure it'll happen if you argue on an anonymous imageboard even harder.

Meanwhile Intel does what an anti-competitive company likes to do.

>>59133961
fucked. the main reason i'm still running 2500k.
>>59133968
i dont think we are going to get much of a drop.

>>59134619
2018 for the LGA 2011-3 successor, not 2019. Finger slipped there.

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>i7 7700k for $300 instead of $350

>massive price cut

I'll just pay $100 more and get the same performance but with 4 more cores, thanks.

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>>59134444
Can you perhaps understand the reason some of us aren't so excited it because believe it or not there are games out there still running shitty old engines that genuinely can't use more than 2 threads and Ryzen has no IPC benefit?

I'm running a 980Ti and 3570k at 4.5 and still get shit FPS in CSGO.

>>59131839
you could at least say thanks to amd for lowering your prices then.

>>59134713
Wow r u a competitifive gamer?

>>59134713
>I'm running a 980Ti and 3570k at 4.5 and still get shit FPS in CSGO

Something is wrong with your PC then. CSGO can run on a toaster.

>>59134703
>willing to pay more to receive the same performance
just..wow...

>>59134754
I'm playing at 1440p and at max settings.

I could turn them down of course, but I have severe autism.

>>59134713
>I'm not hyped to buy a Yacht because there's no ocean where I live

>Yachtfags are so stupid, fucking yachtfags dont need a yacht when you have a car that does the same shit just fine!

>>59132158
Wait. It's 2003 again?

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>>59134761
>Same performance but with 4 more cores
>which gives me a huge boost in applications that take advantage of this, with no drawbacks in those that dont

It's so simple its amazing

>>59134771
Why do you need more desktop performance? Are you a video editor pumping out 900 videos a day and you're super excited about this 5% performance bump?

If not, fucking kill you are self.

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>>59134703
>when you had the chance to suck that mans dick but passed up the offer

>>59134713
I wouldn't say no IPC benefit. Zen might actually run a lot of games better than most recent Intel chips do. There was a leaked Youtube vid that benched an R7 1700 against a 5.2GHz overclocked Core i7-7700K, and its average framerate was either close, or identical to the overclocked chip, despite having a lower minimum recorded framerate, and a lower maximum framerate.

Zen's cache and branch prediction is also somewhat ahead of Intel's, at least when comparing Broadwell. I don't have my review sample yet, so I'm eager to see how things turn out when Anandtech has their review up.

>>59134713
>get shit fps in csgo
u w8 m8 are you running in 4K or what I've seen streamers with worse setups than yours hitting 200fps avg

>>59134765
>I'm playing at 1440p and at max settings.
Then that would indicate you'd be liable to some kind of GPU bottleneck, at least more susceptible to one anyway, though that would be surprising with a 980 ti but who knows.

If you turn down settings and resolution and still hit frame drops then you can rule out the GPU.

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>>59134796
>WHY DO YOU WANT A FAST COMPUTER?

Jesus fuck the damage control here is relentless

>>59134765
>playing """competitive""" fps games
>not everything on low settings

It's like you don't even want to see the first frame when the head pops out from behind the corner.

>>59134825
desu 'shit fps' was an exaggeration, it's 200fps like 90% of the time but it can drop to like 100fps on nuke and inferno at certain times, still unacceptable.

>>59134859
It's probably like one stupid setting that you have maxed out that doesn't even need to be. It's always one poorly coded thing that barely does anything fucking everything up.

>>59134859
On Windows 10?

>>59134891
Maybe, I haven't bothered playing with it. I just set everything to max except AA which I set to 2x.

Would it be possible to buy cheap processors from microcenter and resell them to /g/entlemen tax free for $?

>>59134918
1 per household nigga

>>59134967
I know ways around this

>>59134713
Dumb frogposter. A fucking 5 year old AMD APU can hit 1080p 60fps in CS:GO.

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>>59134891
Huh, turns out it does actually use 4 cores, and it hammers them pretty hard :/

Looks like I've been made a fool of :/

>What do you need a Porsche for anyway? The speed limit is 45mph!

Intelfags

>>59135054
>those CPU temps
Damn. What cooler are you using? And I know the load is high but still, just curious.

>>59135104
The big brick Phantek's one with two SP120's because they look cooler. I can't remember it's name.

My temps are garbage, they go to 90C instantly in Prime 95 regardless of if I have the fans off or at 100%. Thanks Intel for no soldering.

>>59135171
Delid it. :^)

>>59135187
I want to, even have that mercury shit I forget what its called, gallium or whatever. But the risk is too high.

>>59135199
Don't solder it, just replace default TIM with liquid metal.

>>59133774
E-Penis of course. Do you don't value E-penis?

>>59135199
You do realize there are delidding tools that make it safe and easy right?

>>59135285
Such as?

>>59135312
http://rockitcool.myshopify.com/

Heres one. If you have a 3d printer its possible to print your own delidding tool if you dont want to shell out $30 to delid your chip.

>>59135171
What voltage are you running that 4.5GHz overclock at? If it's an auto-overclock thing from your BIOS, then the voltage would be higher than reasonable.

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>>59133887
What drives someone to keep posting trash like this over and over and over..

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>>59134713
just epic

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>this thread

>>59135998
Remember when The Simpsons were good?

>>59133638
>I ONLY BELIEVE INTEL WHEN THEY RELEASE BENCHMARKS (cough cough 15% cough cough)
>WHEN AMD HAS LIVE TESTS YOU COULD LITERALLY RUN AGAINST INTELS EQUIVALENT CPU THATS JUST LYING
>totally not a fucking shill

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>>59135998

>>59135360
Meh, my chip is a shit overclocker, needs well over 1.3v to get 4.5ghz. Waste of time desu, I don't really care about running this shit at like 90c because fuck the hardware.