So how mad are you that AMD is back on top?

>>59107858
only intel pajeets are mad anon

>>59107858
860k here. I am excited and mildly aroused.

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>>59107858
It's not doe.
Intel still has the server and workstation market by the balls. Zen seems to be marketing the gaming industry for some reason, even tho those little 8 cores will make decent workstations.

I may need to figure out my overclock limitations though, I havnt been below amd performance for a long g time and I damn sure ain't starting now.

>>59108055
Zen is made for the server market, just wait and see naples cuck intel

>>59107858
I'm not convinced they are. Every time AMD launches a product the marketing goes crazy with wild claims and all the fanboys parrot it and buy in. Then a month or so later we find out it was all bullshit and the product sucks for multiple reasons.

>>59108098
I am waiting.
I need to build a new server, and I've been waiting for the better part of 1.5 years for fucking zen.

>>59108110
This isn't the case this time you faggot, nor has it ever been, you obviously only listen to shit made by false flagging shills that do this on purpous

>>59108151
what does a aspie on /g/ need a server for

>>59107858
I'm happy actually.

Intel has had a monopoly on Desktop CPUs for too long now, last AMD Processor I had was a Phenom II X6, and I've been using i5's and i7's since then.

This pushes for competition, and whoever comes out the best at the time I need a processor is the best I guess. I'm not gonna ditch my 4790k out of the blue for a while now.

Right now I'm waiting for Zen architecture server CPUs to compare to Xeon right now. I'm in the market to build a decent server.

>competition is back
>intel is forced to actually innovate again
>we get better tech because of this

You'd have to be a retard to be mad about this.

>>59108194
>Intel
>""""""""innovating"""""""""""
intel wont have a proper answer to AMD until at least 2021

its going to be fun 4 years

>>59108174
It was the case with Fury X

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>AMD focuses on the desktop gaymer shit market in a period where PC sales are declining
>Intel still dominates servers and laptops (where the money is)
>AMD doesn't actually make enough money from Ryzen to pay off their debts
>mfw the AMDrone tears when AMD goes out of business

Imagine all the shit Intel has saved up to compete though. Even if they don't have better chips ready to go right now all they have to do is stop gimping their current chips with shitty TIM and suddenly that 4.4 ghz can boost to 5.0 ghz with ease.

>>59108229
>implying the jews won't bail them out

>>59108206
>came out
>was a 980ti competitor with a built in water cooler
>ran quieter and cooler for the same price and performance
>and this is what AMD said it would be
and??? this only proves my point more and more that these claims that the fury would be on 20nm and absolutely bfto nvidia are just memes perpetuated by nvidia fanboys and pajeet shills

>>59108189
Kek.
Need at least 8 cores, and I'm planning on around 256gb of ram. And I'm sticking to under 100w tdp for the cpu.
Some form of Intel setup would blow the budget unfortunately, so I wait.

https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2017/02/Google-Cloud-Platform-is-the-first-cloud-provider-to-offer-Intel-Skylake.html

Google already has Skylake-E

AYYMD getting destroyed in a few months when Intel launches Skylake-E

THANK YOU BASED INTEL

>>59108229
>AMDrone
>>>/r/AYYMD

never come back to this board you obvious newfag ledditor

>>59108252
kys amdrone imbecile

>>59108258
You seem to have not understood the question
>FOR
>WHAT
>PURPOSE

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>>59108271
I've been here for several years.

>>59107858
Judging by the threads like
>>59097469
>>59104353
>>59106430
Pretty fucking mad and the koality of the shitposting/shilling is... baffling.

>>59108252
If you don't OC video cards the Fury X looked okay, but since most 980TIs will do >1400 MHz boost, even without additional voltage, not OCing one would almost be a crime against humanity.

>>59108229
>laptops
>where the money is
confirmed retard

Also, Naples will destroy Intel's server offerings. Current gen IPC with 32 cores for less than the cost of a 16 or 18 core Xeon is a no-brainer.

Not at all because I don't dickride companies. Everyone should love competition.

>>59107858
why? athlon 64 days best PC days of my life, they probably won't come back but I can reminisce about it with ryzen

my first cpu was an athlon 64 3500+

i buy whatever is best for the money i'm willing to spend

i miss my ocz ddr kit at 2-2-2-5 timings. shit was tight.

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>>59108260
Ryzen already has higher IPC than babbylake which is higher IPC then skylake-e

unless intel wants to fully unlock it and give us 12 cores for $1000 then skylake-e is DOA

>>59108321
There's two laptops sold for every desktop sold. People straight up aren't buying desktops anymore.

>>59108055
you realize what is going to happen in summer when 32core 3.4ghz scaleable naples drops?

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>>59108285
>2 or 3
yea you're a newfag

leave

>>59108338
>Kaby Lake @ 3.8Ghz

>>59108338
then again intels chip will probably do 5ghz with good water cooling if they solder the ihs. price is critical.

>>59108299
>le amd cant overclock meme

sitting on a 290x that can effortlessly do 1300mhz

that shit meme has been disproved over and over again and is only ever parroted by massive shills

>>59108364
>your definition literally says MORE than 2 or 3
>you say 2 or 3
Hmm yes very good reading comprehension my dear.

I've been here for at least 5 years you dumb AMDrone.

>>59108229
>in a period where PC sales are declining
here the thing that going to happen, PC sales will jump 15% just because strong 8core is mainstream now
We like to pretend that people are stupid, well americans are stupid about their consumerism, but really ton of people didn't buy anything because there was no point.

>>59108338
FALSE

Rypoo only has Broadwell IPC, nice try though

>>59107858
I doubt it, but if thats the case, im glad.

I've been overpaying for intel CPUs by 7 years now, if a real competence shows up intel will be forced to either lower their prices or release better CPUs

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>>59108368
>ITS OK ITS AT 500 NIGGAHURTZ

newfags to new to realize this is what intel did with netburst and prescott

>>59108365
(you)

>>59107858
>ryzen can't handle higher than 2400MHz RAM https://www.dvhardware.net/article66073.html
>most games dont use more than 4 cores https://videocardz.com/66354/core-count-vs-frequency-what-matters-for-gaming
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-02/cpu-skalierung-kerne-spiele-test/#diagramm-watch-dogs-2-fps
>1700x worse than i7-7700K http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700K/3915vs3647
Hee hee ha ha ho ho there goes anyones' smile after they already preordered their hardware

>>59108380
>PC sales will jump 15% just because strong 8core is mainstream now
For gamers. Outside of dx12 games, the average person has no use for more than a dual core i3. Chromebooks are outselling Macbooks because people just don't need powerful computers to browse facebook anymore.

>>59108377
>5 years
after housefires, 1.7, inelite and other classic /g/ memes

you are a newfag stop denying it

>>59107858
>on top
of what? The shit-tier budget desktop market? the cheap chink shit laptop market?

>>59108383
>pajeet shill cognitive dissonance the post
you aren't convincing anyone by acting dumb

>>59108341
And laptop processors are low binned and cheap on top of the fact that they're almost exclusively sold to OEMs at near wholesale prices. And yes, desktops are still being sold. I work for an HP reseller and we've sold at least ten desktops for every laptop this year, because businesses don't like paying more for less hardware when they don't need it to be portable.

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>>59108338
>then skylake-e is DOA
You probably meant:
>Kaby Lake-X is DOA
Skylake-X will only be DOA if Intel decides to continue to be jews instead of getting their shit together and release it at an Actually Competitive Price.
Kaby-X will be DOA no matter what, just like regular Kaby was DOA, and just like Broadwell-E was DOA just like regular Broadwell was.

>>59108399
im not new you fag. ryzens don't seem to overclock well from early tests. if you can show me a ryzen 8 core at 5ghz on water please do.

>>59108413
I'll stay here. I like triggering elitist neckbeards.

>>59108406
coming from my and people around me experience, that's all
there is a lot of i7 sandy closet enthusiasts that were outside of market for a long time, most of them will jump the ship

if AMD was 'back on top' they would not have released canned benchmark results weeks before NDA for independent reviews lift. truth does not fear investigation, and AMD sure seems afraid of the truth (to the point where they are trying to suck up as many preorders as possible before it comes out)

that said, i doubt zen is going to be bulldozer-tier bad, but it's certainly not going to exceed haswell IPC like the AMD fanboy narrative claims

>>59108364
oh god pls tell me youre not the retard from
>>59097469
saying inane shit over and over again

>>59108282
It's a bit hard to explain, but I basically need a shit ton of virtualization capacity.
And because it needs to live in my home, it needs to be compact, so it will have a large DAS too.
Basically multiple VMs, a large high speed ramdisk, and tons of storage that some of which will replace my current home SAN

>>59108425
>AMD cant overclock
see >>59108376

as for CPU's

they have the world record for both single core and all core overclocking

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>>59108427
You come to the place with literally UNIX time stamps for image names yet you literally can't even. >>>/out/

>>59108425
>ryzens don't seem to overclock well from early tests
what tests? only OC tests we know about is LN2 5.2ghz on 8 cores

>>59108440
You're so fucking dumb. Literally every product ever released is under NDA until release date.

>>59108443
no but keep dreaming shecklestein, if you believe im samefagging it will be better on your conscious and your jewgold as opposed to the consumer base collectively telling intel to fuck off

>>59108354
Sorry, I meant stay above the amd consumer market cpus.
U less you're referring to those revolutionizing the server market, in which case, I will start laughing now.

>>59108462
>You're so fucking dumb. Literally every product ever released is under NDA until release date.

feb 22nd was the date of amd's ryzen 'launch event', which is normally when nda lifts for all of amd's most recent launches, namely the rx480 launch.

>>59108421
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013/03/06/apple-google-microsoft-hewlett-packard-dell-ipad-iphone-android-ios-samsung-galaxy/1946325/
>6.8 million desktops sold in 2012 vs 23.8 million mobile PCs
Businesses like your customers are not the majority of computer customers.

>>59108454
I think I'm going to stay.

>>59108427
>AMD users
>Elitists
gee didn't know buying a $320 cpu that performs like a $1000 cpu and has the power consumption of a i5 was elitism, back in my day they used to call that being a smart consumer

>>59108484
480 wasn't lifted before store date as well
it's always when in the stores then it lifts, it's not in the stores
come on, how many preorders they can get? 50k? 100k? it's nothing

>>59108455
that's the one. ln2 should be getting it up to 7ghz. doesn't bode well for air or water but i hope for the best. not taking sides.

>>59108484
One part of the lineup has been shown at an AMD event, but it has not been released yet.

>6.8 million desktops
That's a far cry from your claim that people aren't buying them. And like I said, the margins on laptop processors are tiny. Honestly, server and workstation processors are where the real money is at. And honestly, I'm not even sure why we're having this debate, when Ryzen will outperform Intel offerings for less money while drawing less power, and so should be the logical choice for the majority of applications.

>>59108506
>missing the context by this much
Do you have autism? I called him an elitist because of how he treats ""newfags"".

And yes, elitists can berate people for using more expensive hardware. They just have to think that buying expensive hardware is for the "unwashed masses" and they're better than the "sheep" for buying the less popular, cheaper alternative.

>>59108252
>ran quieter and cooler for the same price and performance
your room certainly was not cooler with Fury

>>59108512
>ln2 should be getting it up to 7ghz
son, no 8 core can go that high for long
8350 can because it's structure is unconventional, but 6900k dies at what? same 5.2 but for less than 30 seconds?

>>59108536
If you haven't been here since at the very fucking least 2009 you might as well just fuck off

Your opinions also indicate you have nothing important or intelligent to say, being a massive intel cuck

>>59108512
You know, that promotional Asus Maximus Apex promotional video was using a 7700k.

>>59108550
>your room certainly was not cooler with Fury
it sold out here in russia, saving on heating and having decent gpu at the same time.

>>59108526
>That's a far cry from your claim that people aren't buying them.
That was in 2012, desktop sales have been declining. AMD has 1.4 BILLION dollars in debt. They need to sell a shit ton of high margin processors to avoid going under. Honestly, honestly, honestly, you're honestly delusional if you honestly think AMD honestly honestly

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>>59108550
So where in the world is 65c > 85c
Fuck off shill

>>59108564
No, I'm going to stay here. I like making people like you angry.

>>59108570
>Asus Maximus Apex
I chuckled when they mentioned "breach sensor"

>>59108603
>i like turning 4chan into leddit

>>59108590
>AMD has 1.4 BILLION dollars in debt
lol, you're funny

AMD halved their debt by introducing some stock options last year and with the margin on these processors they'll probably make enough in preorders to pay off most of their debt. This is ignoring the fact that that 1.4 billion is long term debt so it's not exactly a pressing matter.

Judging by that last sentence you're very butthurt. Could it be because you're a fanboy, or a shill worried about getting paid?

>>59108601
ehm, nobody means actual fury when they say fury they mean fury x
everyone forgot about normal fury months after it came out

>>59108601
That is GPU temperature, temperature of the chip itself, dear retardbro.
It does not say anything about consumption or heat output of given videocard.

>>59108590
>tfw more than $20000 of profits in amd stock
damn i sure am profiting over this dead, dying company

stay mad poorfag pajeet

>>59108624
But reddit forces conformity onto people. People like me would be downvoted on reddit. I like places like 4chan because my shit opinions are just as visible as the groupthink approved ones.

>>59108590
and intel ahs 1.5B fine that they didn't pay
what are you getting at? debt means nothing while company can produce IPs, if they run out of R&D then and only then they will be dead

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>>59107858
I wish it to them, although not sure if they are exactly on top (the world will probably keep pretending ST performance and/or games matter most).

Hopefully Intel won't get trashed too bad so that I don't get tempted to feel bad about it.

>>59107858
I'm using laptops exclusively since 2006 so I don't give a shit. AMD basically doesn't exist for me.

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>>59108636
Oh you mean this stuff, the stuff that makes nvidia look even worse

>>59108656
Zen draws less power than Intel equivalents so it should be perfect for laptops.

i'm very happy and have been enjoying the incel/nvidiot tears a great deal lately.

>ryzen launches
>intel immediately drops their CPU prices to beat it
>amd CPUs get utterly cucked, no one wants to pay extra for ryzen with shitty single core performance
>intels next line of processors just rub salt in the wound and everyone forgets AMD exists for another 5 years

>>59108554
i hope for the best friendo. i'm psyched about ryzen too. not gonna argue too much about it until some regular people start playing with 1700x.

>>59108628
Honestly, my first computer I built used AMD. How could I be a shill if I'm clearly willing to switch processor brands when the competition puts out something better?

>>59108672
>Intel
>Dropping prices
what alternate reality do you fucking live in, intel isn't nvidia, they DONT under any circumstances drop prices, you're probably too new to remember how intel didn't drop prices at all even when they were worse then AMD in the athlon days

>>59108666
does not seem to be a picture of a room

>>59108672
>intel immediately drops their CPU prices to beat it

they already did, enjoy your one time only $10 discount

>>59108672
Intel isn't going to cut prices below AMD. It simply won't happen. They may lower prices, but it probably won't happen right away either. Most likely they'll release Cannon Lake at lower prices than Skylake. Meanwhile, AMD has Zen+ already in the works and Intel doesn't have any major architecture changes coming until 2022, which means we'll get four more generations of 2-3% performance increase before we see any real improvement.

are there any real benchmarks out yet?

>>59108711
Not from anyone reliable.

>>59108684
Why else would you be so butthurt about someone choosing AMD when it's the superior product?

>>59108717
I pre-ordered the stuff cuz jim keller I believe in


so I guess I'll make a thread and run any script anyone gives me on linux in any programming language to do benchmarks

>>59108687
>intel isn't nvidia
Everyone on /g/ was saying that Nvidia wouldn't price the 1060 and 1050/ti competitively because of their hubris or whatever.

>>59108672(You)
>...ryzen with shitty single core performance [sic]
Single core performance of Ryzen stomps a mud hole in Intel's ass.

>>59108711
nope. review people are very hype though without saying anything, so it can go either way
don't think it's hype bubble
28 is the date.

>>59108721
Because they're prematurely concluding it's the superior product when we only have AMD's approved benchmarks to look at for now. Remember when people thought the rx480 would be GTX 980 tier because of AMD's cherrypicked benchmark?

>>59108688
>muh room
you dont understand thermals, great
you see when a gpu is 65c it wont heat up a room to the same degree that a 85c gpu will, its simple science and you cant deny this fact, when i had a reference 290x is heated my room up really fast and thats because it was at like 80ish degrees celcius, after i started to watercool it it dropped to 55c max and my room was never uncomfortable to be in (It didn't get hot like the aircooled 290x made it, or anything else that runs at 80c)

>>59108750

(you)

>>59108744
Intel's own engineers took a close look at Zen and said themselves that it will be competitive with current Intel offerings. There is absolutely no reason beyond fanboyism and Intel marketing to believe Ryzen won't be competitive.

>>59108730
And thy didn't, the 1050ti is still retardedly priced and the 1060 is still notably more than the 480

>>59108601
you realise that your card puts out heat akin to it's peak power usage, and it dumps that heat in your room regardless of how effective it's cooling solution is right? if a card has a 240w tdp it will put out 240w worth of heat even if the card is being effectively cooled all that heat is exchanged into the room.

>>59108727
no one will care because by the time you get it the professional reviews will be live.

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>>59108750
Breddy gud b8 newfriend

>>59108758
>i don't have an actual response to science, reason, and personal experience so ill just respond with a ebin leddit meme

>>59108780
See
>>59108776

>>59108776
How is that bait

>>59108769
That's not how it works dumbass
get 2 frying pans and heat them up and pour water on one of them and tell me which one gives off more heat

>>59108737
yea hopefully we see some real shit.
>>59108771
o yea?
people care about 3570k still here

>>59108787
see >>59108803

>>59108744
>Remember when people thought the rx480 would be GTX 980 tier
at this point in time? it is, 980 is trash tier now, heck even 390 beats it
also nobody except for a few idiots said that, everyone expected 390 for $200 and we got it

>>59108750
I wonder how people lived with incandescents lightbulbs. 3000c is no joke.

This guy >>59108803 seems to be completely serious

>>59108744
980 has been gimped to shit now

>>59108820
>damage control

>>59108803
>>59108769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTeBUpR17Rw

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>>59108803
Wow you actually believe that shit!

>>59108826
How many examples do you need?

how about when i build a mediacenter out of old parts and a rosewill case

the rosewill case had no airflow and made the old HD 4850 i had in there beg for death

I transpanted the same build into a new case (fractal design node 804) same power consumption, just a new case, the new case made a massive difference on the HD 4850 and the temperature of my room. If what you say is true then that would not have mattered even if the gpu was cooled better by this new case

>all this amd fanboy bullshit

can't wait to see the damage control 'everyone expected sandy bridge ipc!' 3 days from now.

>>59108869
>>59108769

>>59108848
The 980 only seems to be 10% more powerful at twice the price

>>59108882
How was my card cooler?

How was my room cooler?

do fucking explain that

>>59108889
the 980 is shit

>>59107858
I'm glad that there is going to be a competitive market again. Even if it's for just a little bit.

>>59108744
I remember how everyone thought fury will kill the 980ti by being better and way cheaper.

>>59108899
anecdotal evidence, that's how I explain that
If a chip is rated at 250w, it will output 250w. If the chip was being cooled up to a maximum of 85c, that means more heat is stayin in the gpu die. If the same chip, at the same load is now being cooled at 65c, that means that more heat is leaving the gpu die and more heat is being dumped into the atmosphere.

>>59108871
Can't wait to see you crying when intel leaves the cpu business :^)

>>59108932
you forget that that 85c gpu is reference, blowing out 85c air and radiating 85c effectively making the room hotter, the room with the 980 ti is hotter than the room with the fury x

>>>/sci/
they will literally tell you the same thing

>>59108871
see >>59108338
>>59108399

the IPC is above babby lake

I really wanted to get a 1600x but perhaps i'll get a 1700 now that the 1600x will release later on. Gonna dent my wallet a bit when it has to come with a new mobo and ram though.

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>>59107858
>LOOK MY GENTOO TAKES UP LESS THAN 100MEGABYTES OF RAM AND DOES BARELY ANY COMPUTATION
>WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT AMD BRINGING OUT POWERFUL MONSTERS WHICH I DONT EVEN NEED?
XDDDDDD

Fuckin /g/. Kys.

>>59108970
What cpu do you have now?

>>59108973
linux shills on /g/ and the people here using wangblows for games and necessity are two completely different types of people

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>>59108383
>That's wrong because it is.

>>59108994
Neither is relevant though.

>>59108955
You're forgetting that volume and mass play a very big part in how the atmosphere will feel. A blower cooler might output 85c but that's only for a few ccs of air. A much more efficient cooler, will have the heat spread out at a larger volume of air, making the temperature of the exhausted air lower. They're effectively putting out the same joules of heat. Please learn the difference between "heat" and "temperature" before spouting off more bullshit.

>>59109010
>Linux isn't relevant
>Windows isn't relevant
How retarded are you?

>>59109009
I don't get this meme.

You know AMD has more Indians working for them than Intel, and both of them hire quite a lot of Indians.

Not mad, but still frustrated the inflation and jewing on both side made CPU costs more than 300 for a decent mid range CPU.
Same goes to GPU.

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>>59108803
HE'S NOT JOKING

>>59109016
The temperature IS lower though, you have have a autism fit over terminology but it doesn't negate the fact that im right.

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Got my pre-order confirmation email at lunch today. Said my new parts should be ready for pickup on launch day. I just want to go to sleep for a whole week and wake up when it's March 2nd so I don't have to endure waiting any longer. I waited for 7 years with my Core 2 Quad build. Now I can't wait 7 days.

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>>59109024
>He doesn't understand physics
(you)

>>59109028
>Temperature is lower
If you give enough time for the heat to convect the heat through, say, 1 cubic meter of air, the temperature be the same. Again, learn the difference between "heat" and "temperature". They're completely different things.

>>59109036
BAD GOYIM REEEEEEEEEE BUY INTEL

>>59109037
You're the retard here that doesn't understand basic thermodynamics

>>59108803
>which one gives off more heat
They both have the same amount of heat but the only reason why the steaming pan feels hotter is because of the much more efficient heat transfer.

>>59109043
by the time the room with the Fury X gets as hot as the one with the 980 Ti, i would have already turned the computer off and gone to sleep

>>59109054
>>59109062
see >>59109063

its a moot point

lmao what kind of poorfag has a room tiny enough that they actually fucking notice a change in ambient temperature depending on whether their gpu is under load or not, let alone can tell the fucking difference between two gpus

>>59109108
a retard that can't understand thermodynamics

>>59108399
30% above 7700k
30% more expensive

Pretty shit desu

>>59109070
It doesn't matter. He's retarded when it comes to thermodynamics.

>>59109108
>living in a basement/studio
you know that rich fags generally have things called SEPARATE ROOMS instead of living in mommy's basement or one big room that passed of as a """"Apartment""""

>>59109118
>matches/exceeds it in gaming
>is 2x faster in pro applications

https://youtu.be/LdqIsqwDRig?t=1m18s

how is that bad?
Keep in mind that this bench has ryzen at 3.4 ghz and babby lake at 4.2 ghz

hurts doesn't it

>>59108403
>2400mhz
"The issue is not vendor specific and the wording of the ASUS statement indicates the solution will involve a CPU microcode update from AMD so it is a fixable and relatively minor problem with the processor."

I'm actually quoting from The URL you posted...

>>59108403
>games
Who cares about video games on an 18+ website?

>>59107858
>top
>is bottom
kek

>>59110555
the issue isnt even an issue at all the stupid article dont even know the difference between SR and DR memory modules its a pretty pathetic clickbait article

>>59108403
>most games dont use more than 4 cores..
posts 2 links that is proven him wrong

>1700x worse than a 7700k 6779 benches vs 1 on the system a 3.4ghz without turbo vs a 4.2 ghz with turbo

do those shils even try anymore?

>>59108246
Shame that AMD has a ton of jewish shareholders.

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>>59108803
>That's not how it works dumbass
>get 2 frying pans and heat them up and pour water on one of them and tell me which one gives off more heat

stop it please

I cancelled my Ryzen pre order when I saw it couldn't OC properly.
I was actually hyped for Ryzen

>>59107858
Mad? I'm actually happy as a consumer. I have no qualms about switching to a superior and more affordable alternative.

Brand loyalty is stupid.

>>59108055
>Zen seems to be marketing the gaming industry for some reason
Sure, the consumer products are.

Do you seriously think AM4 is for the server side? There will be a whole other Opteron platform.

>>59113059
>there's only consumers and servers

>>59107858
>no ECC
>back on top
nah

Intel are shitting themselves.

'It's upsetting to have to say, but should be said. As an IT Director I have already been approached by an Intel representative to discuss the "special promotions" and "Incentive rebates" that they are willing to offer me for purchasing exclusively Intel powered servers. I was not well received when I explained that I would not be purchasing anything until I see the benchmarks of the new Ryzen (naples) core and compare the cost-to-performance ratio. It was at that point they made it very clear that they would go to great lengths from a financial standpoint to incentivize me to NOT purchase AMD chips.

These are the tactics that were used back in the day that AMD had feared would be used again. Intel offered "loyalty rebates" and other clever promotions to hide the fact that they were paying customers to lock out the competition. I sincerely hope that other IT Directors and all in IT in general do what's best for the industry and choose based off of what's best for the consumer and their environment. The rebates are nice and all, but if we continue to hurt AMD for a small rebate, we destroy AMD's ability to compete and enable Intel to continue their "Tick-Tock" releases and oppressive pricing.

Be aware folks, Intel is scared and is already looking to use their weight and $'s to NOT out innovate, but to obstruct competitions ability to enter the marketplace. Why else would they be contacting and attempting to "Incentivize" customers well before the launch of AMD's server chips in Q2-Q3? '

>>59113504
Why are you spamming a user-comment from a fringe-website as if it was fact?
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/amd-fear-intel-ryzen-reprisal

>>59113530
Because it sounds plausible and it rattles shills jimmies. Just like my carot nose :^)

>>59113504

there's nothing wrong with discounting prices in order to sell more. in fact, there's going to be a lot more of it now that trump is president and not your jew or communist candidate.

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>>59107858
>So how mad are you that AMD is back on top?
I'm mad it took them so long to get rid of the retards that made the Pentium 4 socked AM3+ edition. The Bulldozer architecture was irredeemable garbage and the stale chipset they rehashed was completely inexcusable.

>>59108564
New fag spotted

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Ryzen is my waifu

>>59108750
oh christ he's serious.

under a given work load, your gpu will always generate the same amount of heat. temperature is the amount of heat IN an object, not the amount of heat it gives off, which is your TDP measured in Watts. The amount of heat currently in the gpu chip depends on the efficiency of heat transfer, which is the whole point of cooling systems. But it's still the same amount of heat. It's just being transferred out before it can build up with the end goal of being transferred to the air in your room.

TLDR yes it fucking did heat your room the same unless you got a magic cooler that violates the laws of thermodynamics or unless the fans themselves were generating obscene amounts of heat from the electric motors.

>>59107858
Microcenter: 3 AMD PCs to 156 intel PCs. They won't climb back before intel one ups them again.

>>59107858
I'm very happy.

>>59108750
AHAHAHAHA

>>59113694
I've seen this image since forever, what's the source?

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Anyone saved that webm of that automatic toiler smearing shit all over the place and it ends with a Ryzen logo?

I need to prepare just in case I need it.

>>59111875

You are going to feel silly when reviews hit.

>>59116972
seconding this

>>59108510
Apparently they got a million

>>59108730
Nvidia drops prices in the top end, never in their bottom line

>>59107858
why would i be mad about more competition?

not the most capitalist person out there, but competition is supposed to be good right?

always like the underdog too.

>>59107858
Not mad at all. The share price is rocketing, and I bought at $1.88

I'm very happy for them, most people will be fine with the 1700, but I think power-users will still want to wait for Skylake Extreme and 299X.

>>59108277
How do i pronounce amdrome?
AMD-Rome?
AM-drone?
AMDR-1?

I'm impressed not even mad. I like an AMD fan desu so I'm kinda biased.

Will my naruto anime compress faster in 7-zip with the 8 coarz?

>>59108174
> Nor has it ever been
> what is bulldozer
> what is polaris

Will Zen's better than Intel in term of Computer-Aided Design?

Autodesk had been lagging lately even when run on my i7-2600K machine.

>>59110956

literally no one gives a fuck

Intel chips have better single core performance, therefore they are better for games.

>>59120332
Intel

>>59107858
How are they back on top?

Ryzen hasn't even been released

>>59120593
Some archaic games and games with outdated graphics APIs, maybe. Emulators too I guess. Newer games and GPU-bound games, not so much.

>>59120635
Sold out pre orders, which are one million CPU's

>>59120643
Every game that isnt DX12/Vulkan, even current games have questionable multicore performance today.

>>59120620
Int-lel?

>>59120635
>I'm sorry but did intel already lose? Oh that's right...

>>59108194
every intel i7 that it priced over 500 dollars should make you blood red mad. they are completely pointless.

>>59107858

Seems like its cyclical to me, honestly. Isn't AMD the brand of choice for low-mid-end machines most of the time anyway?

>>59120664
True, but to the point where it actually matters? I doubt it. These CPUs will be overkill for 99% of gaymers. If a Sandy Bridge i5 still let's people with CPUs from 6 years ago game pretty comfortably when paired with the right GPU then I don't see how Ryzen is going to fall flat when it comes to DX11 games.

>>59120691
But I want to play combat arms at a 1000 fps.

>>59120702
Benchmarks will show a difference big enough for gamers to give Ryzen a pass.

It's the next bulldozer folks.

AMD
Autistic Choice

>>59120734
Highly unlikely given its competitive price. Also, the 6c/12t and 4c/8t chips with XFR may hit clocks unattainable by the 8 core chips, so to call Ryzen a poor gaymer performer is premature.

Besides, like I said, the vast majority of gaymers are not going to be sporting Titan XP's playing at 1080p with reduced settings such that their CPU becomes a bottleneck. It's just not going to happen that way.

>>59120436
Yes actually, more memory bandwidth also helps so it will probably be quite a bit faster actually.

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>>59108252
um, fury was designed for 20nm, the process fell through and had to be made on 28nm

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>>59120816

>>59120941
I thought there was too many "actually"s as well. I only intended for the last one to be there but I forgot to remove the one from the beginning.

>>59108450
on l2, no shit.
however, the only xfr leak we currently have is linus telling us it gets the damn thing 100mhz.

bit wary, but so many people seem to want to call this a god among those who got early samples, not sure so at best, we have grossly conflicting info.

Kaby Lake is 27% faster than Sandy Bridge, clock for clock.

1100T was not disadvataged in the slightest vs 2600k in multi-threaded applications.

Vishera was pretty good but not Phenom II IPC good. It had more cores and could clock 1Ghz higher and I bit.

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>>59120966

>>59108824
you ever watch someone on stage sweat like a fucking pig? the 60-120 watt bulb in your house is a very small piece of filament, that does heat up rooms if it's not properly ventilated.

do note that most of the power in a gpu and cpu are just heat.

take a look at this

https://www.wayfair.com/All-Space-Heaters-l997-c1769395-O77728~0%5BD%5D500.html

300watts is more then enough for something to be classified a space heater.

>>59108871
everyone expected sandy bridge, but then we got told they beat it, and buy how much, enough to put it over haswell, and whats this, broadwell and skylake were barely improvements over that?

It is ball part skylake, worse case broadwell,

>>59120794
but there are enough that will go 1080p and reduce enough shit to hit 120/144

as long as amd can pull ahead of that, thats really all that will matter for gamers.

you would rather be gpu bottlenecked then cpu.

>>59116972
Anyone?

>>59121338
Having been on stage, can confirm. those lights get RIDICULOUS.

exynos 9 rulez