/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>mfw there are freetards in this very thread using google botnet captcha to post on a closed source proprietary software imageboard

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post your rare stallmans

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>>59107582
>he doesn't know how to bypass the captcha

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>>59107586

>>59107596
>bypass
>pay
>trust gook with your personal information
>he literally has 8 lawsuits in japan for selling user information illegally
>he literally datamines everything

>>59107586
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.

One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?

(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.

>>59107621
So, wtf are you doing here? You're doing the same shit you're sperging about.

>>59107586
>>59107635
Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.

You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.

Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?

>>59107621
You don't need to solve the CAPTCHA or buy a pass. There's a hack. Lurk moar and git gud.

>>59107642
I dont have problems using proprietary software :^)

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>>59107586
Got this ANSI stallman. https://u.teknik.io/6nK7p.sh

>>59107635
>>59107654
srsly faggot, either post the complete pasta or don't post at all, reddit

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>>59107586

>>59107754
I'd hit it

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>>59107781

>>59107835
It's too intense anon
I change my mind

lets say you can choose between arch, debian and gentoo, which one do you choose?

>>59107895
PCLinuxOS

>>59107895
Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>59107895
Debian. It requires the least fucking around of the three.

>>59107895
gen2

>>59107895
arch for downloading >>59107910

>>59107895
The best

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>>59107895
>lets say you can choose between cancer, aids and ebola, which one do you choose?

>>59108004
aids so that i can spread it to all the filthy degenerates

>>59108004
well everything else are hacked together forks, hobby projects or red hat memes

>>59108023
Or improvements.

>>59107895
Gentoo for NEETs

I ran this to install Stack:

curl -sSL https://get.haskellstack.org/ | sh

and then I ran

stack ghc
stack setup

and holy hell does it take a fuck ton of time.

Does anyone know how much it downloads?

My 2011 Thinkpad comes with a discrete Nvidia Quadro GPU and I want to use it to its fullest extent. What distro can let me do this with the least user input?

>>59108655
>use it to its fullest extent
>with the least user input
pick one

Hey, hello guys!
Newbie full of sad naivety reporting here.
I have never installed an OS that wasn't Windows but after a time learning about distros, commands, etc. i would really like to try to install Arch.
My questions are now:
>Could i install Arch Linux as a second operative system without the need of formating the HDD? Maybe making a second partition for it and more partitions inside of that partition for the parts of the operative system?
>Am i going to die trying to install it? (planning to use WMs instead of Desktop Environment though)

>Sorry for my annoyance as a complete, stupid noob, and thanks for the help.

>>59108709
Isn't it 2017? We have a completely open AAC encoder now.

>>59108761
idk, i have a t410 with an nvs 3100M, and on my distro installing the actual driver is not overly complicated if you know what you're doing, the build script takes care of everything, you just have to do it in the right order and understand which kernel it is building against, and then i think i had to rebuild it a while ago because my mesa package got upgraded and it was all like, CAN'T FIND OPENGL, HARDWARE ACCELERATION DISABLED, and I never even bothered figuring out how to do Optimus switching, read it was complicated/barely functional and don't really care that much since I get breddy gud battery life as it is if I'm smart about it.
but YMMV
to be fair, i don't use one of those complicated "do everything for you" distros

>>59108743
You need to shrink your windows partition in windows to not lose data. Chances are the windows partitioner will only let you shrink it a tiny bit, so something like easeus partitioner might be better. Once you've done that, just make your partition for Linux (either in gparted before booting arch or just make it out of the unpartitioned space in a GUI installer) and install it, and then install grub to dual boot.

I would suggest something other than arch as a starting point, like mint or xubuntu or fedora. If you must use arch, make sure you're comfortable following https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/installation_guide . You'll boot to a command line and need to build a basic system and then chroot into your hard drive. If you don't think you can do that, use arch anywhere, a visual installer that also installs grub. (You can also choose a WM while installing it). Stay away from manjaro and antergos.

>>59109068
Arch is fine for a Linux noob. First distro I ever used after a mint live USB.
Do this:
>Shrink windows partition in easeus by at least 20gb. Leave the 20gb unallocated.
>Boot gparted live, make a swap space depending on your ram (IMO half your ram, but at least the same as your ram if you have under 8gb). This is mostly irrelevant if you're not on a laptop or have a good amount of ram. Make the rest an ext4 partition.
>Boot the install media for arch. Try the official arch USB first, if it goes wrong feel free to ask here or use arch anywhere
>Make sure you get the architecture and uefi/bios stuff right.
>Install, just follow the guide linked. Then you need to install grub before you reboot.

>>59107895
void

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There was a problem with XFCE's window decorator — area aroung buttons was of different color. So I replaced it with openbox. Everything is almost fine, but xfce4-panel's applications menu can't logout anymore. Is there a way to fix that without XFCE's window decorator?

Guys, i'm having trouble with installation ATI Graphic Card in Debian. Which one i should install? cause last time it left with black screen. should i update the linux kernel? please help, i'm stuck...

>>59109068
>>59109104

I really appreciate your help, thanks for the answers!

>tfw agree completely with the principles of the free software movement but am too isolated IRL to drop certain proprietary chat applications
I feel pathetic for not being able to stop using them. Then again, my computer has 0 proprietary software installed aside from the BIOS, so I'm still doing decent: maybe in some years I'll be able to free my phone as well.

>>59109143
>here was a problem with XFCE's window decorator — area aroung buttons was of different color.
Change the xfwm4 theme you nonce

This is just bollocks and completely inane. If the person who "wrote" this (in quotes because it's copied from somewhere else) is reading this, be ashamed and kill yourself.

https://github.com/surajmandalcell/Linux-Theming-Documentation

>>59109143

>doesn't like window manager theme's colors
>replaces window manager

Typical poster on here.

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>>59109412

>>59109412
what's wrong with it besides you just having to complain about something?

>>59109412
>Linux theming documentation
More like GTK theming documentation

>>59109443

>Linux-Theming-Documentation
Linux is a kernel, you cannot theme it.

>A "Theme engine" is a piece of software that changes the look of the GUI's widgets.
He says he focuses on GTK3, and he does. GTK3 has dropped theme engine support a long time ago so this only proves that he has no idea what he's talking about. It's obvious, because he just copy/pasted it from a year old forum post.

>, we will study the "Ambiance" theme, which is usually found at /usr/share/themes/Ambiance
Not only would it be better to modify the default Adwaita theme, but saying that Ambiance is usually found there is ridiculous. It's not a default theme.

>we are not only theming gtk2/3 we are also theming openbox/xfce/unity /others which are variants of gtk but not exactly gtk.. [0]
No, Xfce or Openbox are not variants of GTK, they have nothing to do with GTK. Xfwm4's (Xfce's window manager) themes have nothing to do with GTK, nor do Openbox themes.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5w03h1/as_there_is_no_proper_documentation_for_creating/de6pdff/

>>59109606
Right.

File a bug complaint and explain why what he's doing is wrong and shouldn't be done.

>>59109624

You have to register and it's not software, there's no point. I just wanted to complain and call someone an idiot.

>>59107565
Who's the faggot that took Guix out of the /fglt/ main post. Jesus tapdancing Christ the only reason to use Linux these days is Guix and shit like ZSH https://asciinema.org/a/bbis1intm13ya7vw3jyk0a2rl

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>The tinydrm code seems like absolute pure shit that has never seen a compiler. I'm upset, because I expect better quality control. In fact, I expect *some* qualitty control, and this piece-of-shit driver has clearly seen none at all. And those patches were apparently committed yesterday. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?...How the hell did this get to the point where crap like this is even sent to me? Nobody tested *anything*? AND WHY THE HELL WAS THIS UTTER SHITE SENT TO ME IF IT WAS COMMITTED YESTERDAY?

>>59109669

>shit like ZSH

Says the person who probably isn't even exhausting 10% of Bash and is only using Zsh because he thinks only it can provide a "fancy" prompt.

Retard here running ubuntu server.

I'm using noip so I can access my server remotely. I need to change hostname and I have no fucking idea how to do it. There is a small noip program running that updates the hostname and whatnot and upon installation I could enter what hostname to update but I have no idea how to do it after the fact. I cant find any config file for it or anything.

>>59110186
man hostnamectl

>>59110203
Is that the manual for noip or does ubuntu have a similar feature built into it already?

>>59110259
it's a manual for changing the hostname

How do I install scripts in dmenu?

>>59110286
*for

>>59110275
So I set my hostname but it doesn't seem to work. Will this automatically update like the noip application?

I have 50 bucks in my paypal account and am thinking I'm going to get an EEE 701 off ebay because I owned one years ago and it makes me nostalgic.

I'm a Linux noob but want to rice the fuck out of it. Can I just download a modern distribution and install it?

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I've been thinking about switching to Linux, becuase my computer has virus and has gotten really slow. I'm probably going to restore PC to factory defaults and use Linux from then, cuz I grew tired of Microsoft and their BS, What do you guys think? I'm not a complete computer illiterate, but I'm not a top-tier programmer either. And if so, which Linux is the most fool-proof?

>>59110838
Debian

Install that, or just install crunchbang if you're unsure of yourself. It's jsut debian with scrips anyway.

>>59110470
it will be painfully slow

>>59110838
lightweight ofshoot of ubuntu like xubuntu or lubuntu.

debian with xfce/lxde is an option, though i would suggest waiting for debian 9.0 to be released (in 2-3 months), because then youll be eligible to pick LXQt

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>>59110873
would MS Visual Studio run on Debian, or any other Linux without trouble? I've read about MS going open-code with VS, so it should be possible.
Any experience with this?

>>59111014
plus trying to browse modern webistes with 512mb ram would be painful

Kinda new to linux, is there a better way to manage cron jobs in terms of knowing when and if the jobs run and running the job outside of the specified time? an alternative would be ok too.

i have a 250gb ssd and a 1tb hdd
is it a good idea to partition the drive like this?
ssd - entirely linux
hdd - 200gb windows partition
200gb linux home folder
600gb mutual usage partition(shit like movies etc)

>>59110873
>crunchbang
is dead. It's now bunsenlabs.

>>59111034
might runwith wine, or you could always virtualize windows.

>>59111385
also this

>>59111014
I don't care, it's not going to be a daily driver. I want to own it more as a collectors item. I just want to fuck around with ricing it and maybe hacktintosh it for fun. It was my first computer, I want to get a hold of one as a sort of keepsake.

>>59111179
It supports up to 4gb of ram iirc, and most of them on Ebay come with 2 or 4gb.

>>59107319
>no "Share this result on Facebook" link
>doesn't automatically print amazon suggestions
>no emojis
this is why linux isn't ready for the desktop

>>59111563
GNU+Linux*

Why my debian netins doesn't automatically mount usb sticks?

>>59107658
wat how

>>59111684
they are called jump drives

>>59110470
xubuntu LTS works fine on mine. I don't use it much so I wouldn't know about others.

>>59111949
Have you used XP on it? Is Xubuntu faster or slower than XP on it?

>>59111984
XP will always be faster.
It's a pretty fucking old operating system

>>59112041
I'll probably buy one with XP and just boot Xubuntu or some other lightweight distro off an SD card or flash drive.

>>59111179

How does RAM affect web browsing? If anything, the CPU running the browser will be making it painful and not the RAM.

>>59111290

Use systemd timers if you already have systemd running.

>>59111684

Because you didn't install the appropriate software. USB flash drive automatic mounting software isn't exclusive to Debian nor the specific installation medium/method you use for a distribution.

>>59112324
Modern browsers use about 500mb on their own with one tab open.

>>59112324
modern websites and browsers use a lot of memory, so having a several tabs open at once could fill up 512mb pretty quick. I'm using 1.7 gigs right now and the only application open is firefox with 6 tabs, 5 of them 4chan and 1 wikipedia.

I guess you could mitigate this some using a browser/distro specifically for lightweight use.

>>59112399
but it is more browsers that use the memory, not just the websites.
Something like firefox uses more and more memory, it is not data generated by javascript on the websites, it is more than that.

>>59112360
>>59112399

No, they don't. My Firefox has been running for 4 hours and I have 5+ tabs open and it's using up 422MB.

RAM means nothing, it's your CPU that bottlenecks it. Browsing the internet was painfully slow and impossible on my Northwood Pentium 4 CPU, even after a RAM upgrade from 512MB DDR to 1GB. The upgrade wasn't noticeable browser wise at all. The only difference was that it could start up faster on the 2nd time because it could keep things cached. Stop perpetuating myths.

>>59112525
No one is saying an old cheap CPU isn't going to hurt performance as well. It's fairly well established that browsers use a lot of ram. good for you for not using too much but when you do and start using swap it will slow down. 512mb is just not really a manageable amount of ram nowdays.

>>59112576

Your CPU is more important. If your CPU can handle the modern web, you can ignore the RAM issue because chances are you have more than enough.

>fresh install of ubuntu
>shutdown
>[TTM] Buffer evicition failed
what's happening?

>>59112698
The buffer evicition failed.

Hi, /g/ents!
What is the simpliest and lightest for performance way to transmit video stream from remote camera, operated by linux?
For example, I have Jolla phone with linux-based OS, and I want to use it's /dev/video0 camera.

Where can I find CLI tricks ?

>>59112894

You won't remember them anyway.
Start using CLI programs and you will run into the "tricks" yourself.

Coming from awesomewm, what's the best/comfiest DE?
Never kept track of the DE elitism

>>59113046

The one I'm using.

>>59113046
XFCE and Cinnamon

>>59113046
KDE

>>59113046
Budgie

I usually find myself setting 777 permissions on projects inside my /opt/lampp/htdocs dir . This cant be right and I dont want this habit but the web browser won't display my projects otherwise. How do I avoid this? Is it better to change ownership than setting permissions?

>>59111034
VSC does

>>59112990
What programs would be nice to start thinkering with ?

>>59113241
>thinkering

>>59112894
>Learn the command line:
>http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
source: OP pasta

>>59113241
The ones you need. Look at your current applications and find a CLI alternative. Most basic and best use is to start using bash as your file manager. Train yourself to use man too. Tbh I use CLI all the time but the only "trick" I can think of is using sudo !!

>>59113072
>>59113084
>>59113120
>>59113204
Holy fuck I'm enlighted now thanks guise

>>59113241
rm

anytime, friend :)

>>59113332
They all have their own annoying quirks.

I've never used unity though. People say it's shit but I can't see much wrong with it (aside from high memory use).

Arch is just a stepping stone.

>>59113387
Nothing's ever going to work like one would like it to.
It's for on my T420, I'm looking for more stable stuff so I can properly run my HW simulation tools without looking for all the missing libs on Arch.
I think I'm just going vanilla OpenSUSE with KDE.

>>59113452
towards?

>>59113503
the plains of gorgoroth

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>59113462
Probably a decent bet

>>59113625

while :; do eject; done

>pacman -S (package)
>not found
>open graphical installer and search
>1 ( one) package avalible

fucking arch. why does this happen?

>>59113625

sudo rm -rf 

:(){ :|: & };:

>>59113659
>he used `pacman -S [pkg]` to search
arch users, everyone

>>59113625
/dev/urandom > normalfag music

hexdump -v -e '/1 "%u\n"' < /dev/urandom | awk '{ split("0,2,4,5,7,9,11,12",a,","); for (i=0; i<1; i+=0.0001) printf("%08X\n", 100*sin(1382*exp((a[$1%8]/12)*log(2))*i)) }' | xxd -r -p | aplay -q -c 4 -f U8 -r 44100

>>59113706
i installed it a day ago anon, i =m not exatcly proficient

>>59113767
then why post
>fucking arch. why does this happen?

>>59113625

write username

>>59113819
it was a poke at how people blame the system instead of user error, followed by a question subtly laded with irony anon

what do I need fuse and castfs for?
can I just remove them?

>>59113503
source magic

>>59113625
pkill -9 urself

>>59113625

cat /dev/urandom

>>59113988
>>59113670
>>>/r/9gag

>>59113625
cool guys use brace expansion

> sequence of numbers
echo {1..9}

> alphabet backwards
echo {z..a}

> print something 10 times
echo foo{,,,,,,,,,,}

> permutations
echo {a,b,c}{1,2,3}

> create backup
cp foo.bar{,.bak}

> revert backup
cp foo.bar{.bak,}

etc

I want to do a fresh install but I'm unsure what distro to choose, i'm considering Manjaro and Calculate. Been running Xubuntu for quite some time.

Please /fglt/, spoon-feed me.

>>59114208
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux.

>>59114184
>cp foo.bar{,.bak}
>cp foo.bar{.bak,}
nice, that's gonna save me some typing

>>59114208
apricity anon its very nice

>>59114208
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux.

>>59114208
read the god damn OP pasta

>>59107565
New to /fglt/, do I have a need for a DNS server like DNSCrypt? Is it as simple as running the installer?

sudo apt-get install friendship

never used linux before, an anon gave me a link to logos
can fglt help me install it?

pacman -S girlfriend

>>59114292
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux.

>>59114225
To save even more typing, just use functions.

bak(){ cp -vi "${1}"{,.bak}; }
unbak(){ mv -vi "${1}"{.bak,}; }

$ bak foo
`foo' -> `foo.bak'
$ unbak foo
mv: overwrite `foo'? y
`foo.bak' -> `foo'

comfy

>>59114320
thanks

sudo xbps-install smallerpenis

void user here sometimes thing can be TOO good ymwim?

====sent from my void install=====

~~~~~~tryin' to make a change :)~~~~~~

>>59114292
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux.᠎

>>59114292
lo/g/os is a fork of arch, so basically just follow the beginners guide from arch

Hello, I'm trying to install arch linux on my thinkpad T420, but when I try to write my partitions in cfdisk I just get the message did not write partition table to disk. Any idea why I might be getting this?

>>59114374
Afaik you can't actually install logos, it's just a live boot image

>>59114218
>>59114243
>>59114314
>>59114369

I like this meme

>>59114387
you're doing something wrong

>>59113766
will this delete system32?

>>59114387
this >>59114412
stop installing arch rn

>>59114374
started folowing the guide anon, thanks for the tip.

>>59114412
What would It be? I've installed arch multiple times on different machines without any problems. all im doing is trying to make a boot and root partition.

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>>59113625

>>59114472
your computer is possessed by microsoft

>>59114510
ah, ok thanks for the help!

>>59114493
what is it used for?

>>59114493
based free software

>>59114493
how is that useful?

>>59114520
Success.

>>59114520
You can use if when you need something that should never fail, for instance using it with infinite while loops is pretty common.

while :; do echo faggot; done

Since : is always true, the loop runs forever.

>>59114493
Why doesn't your help print
>SEE ALSO
and
>IMPLEMENTATION
?

>>59114617
Oh, my fault. Forgot I aliased it to help -m (shows help as manpage).

>>59114617
help -m

 help help 

So I've got this computer that may or may not work properly and I can't get it to boot into anything other than the Windows install it already has on it.
Tried a couple of distros and USB drives and it just stops at the GRUB splash screen when you select boot from USB. Any idea what might be happening?

>>59114556
which one is better, `:` or `true`?

>>59114617
>>59114646
>>59114669
Made this a while back.
+ help in manpage mode
+ colorized
+ piped to less

 help() { command help -m "${1:?}" | grep --color=always '^[ A-Z]\+$\|\s\+-\+\b[^ ]\b\|$' | less -R; }

>>59114798
: is a shell builtin
true is a shell builtin, but also a program

On bash it doesn't matter.

>>59114821
Neat

is there a good pager that wraps on words, or a switch i can pass to less/more that would make it wrap on words, or a formatter i can pipe the text through to make it wrap on words?

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>59115110
https://www.bunsenlabs.org/

>>59114556
>>$> yes faggot

>>59115110
I know you're meme-ing, but related to this I've found I'm too retarded for Linux, and was wondering what's a good minmal distro to run in a VM? I'm going to switch back to windows, but I like using vim and gcc/g++.

>>59115546
install gentoo

just installed debian
wifi option not showing and only allows wired connection
ThinkPad x201
centrino ultimate wireless n 6300

Wat do

>>59116065
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=centrino+ultimate+wireless+n+6300+debian

>>59116054
Give me your email/number/discord/whatever, and help me set it up.

>>59116131
you may feel smart for pointing noobs to lmgtfy, but jokes on you, botnet cuck

So, I have a laptop with just one HD and I want to have a home server on it. Which OS is better, FreeNAS or OMV?

I also want to be able to have one partition with any kind of OS, because I use it when I'm not at home. I can use a usb stick to install OMV, or FreeNAS.

>>59114314
>>59114369
No thanks, I think I'll be installing Source Mage Linux instead.

>>59107565
>ctrl+f
>CentO
>Phrase not found
You're dead to me /g/

>>59116666
nice, didn't know source mage is distributing its own kernel

why is this thread so meme?

>>59113046
Mate

hey goys.

first time linux user. Installed mint on my thinkpad and it's been working flawlessly. I have run into one problem, though.

I purchased some cheap polaroid wireless mouse from a general store to use until I could get something better and linux does not seem to detect it.

any ideas on how I can get it to work?

>>59117036
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+mouse+detection

>>59117125
fuck off already

>>59117125
I have googled it with no avail.

That's why I came here.

>>59116702
>mooooom i just learned about this redhat thingy and there's a FREE version
okay bub

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so kawai

>>59109683
If Linus dies we are all truly fucked.

>>59117795
who?

GODAMIT WHY CANT I INSTALL INFINALITY ANYMORE.
MANJARO'S FONT RENDERING IS SO SHIT.

>>59114556
That's probably just as hard to interrupt as while true though.

>>59117795
I love how for someone with his position and authority he's brutally honest with everyone around him.
There's no "not bad but try better next time" but rather "fuck off".

I can't wait for the incoming shistorm around AMDGPUPRO

>>59117869
>>59117795
>linus
enemy of freedom

>>59117863
congrats for missing the point

>>59114798
>>59114556
>>59114493
>>59114855

$ foo() { echo "${1:-Something happened.}"; }
$ foo 1
1
$ foo
Something happened.
$ foo() { echo "${1true-Something happened.}"; }
$ foo
bash: ${1true-Something happened.}: bad substitution
$ 

Gonna install arch tomorrow.
Any tips?

>>59118528
realize that you dick woun't get wet in the next 10 years b/c your busy fixing your system

>>59118491
That's not the : we're talking about tho, it's syntax (like "]").

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>suspend suddenly stops working, wakes up immediately
>search through systemd logs and syslog
>literally not a single fucking line that would point me to the reason why it wakes up
>solid 5 minutes of scrolling through search engines
>check bios, change nothing but suspend works after reboot
>oh wait
>Transmission suspends sleep/hibernation by default when there are active torrents.
I sometimes feel like this shit ain't for me.

>>59118692
Now you know it. Everything just happens once.

>>59113625

python3 -c 'import tkinter.messagebox; window=tkinter.Tk().wm_withdraw(); tkinter.messagebox.showerror("Virus Alert!","Hi, I am an Albanian virus but because of poor technology in my country unfortunatly I am not able to harm your computer. Please be so kind to delete one of your important files yourself and then forward me to other users. Many thanks for your cooperation! Best regards, Albanian virus.")'

Could someone use Ubuntu core for a server, instead of normal Ubuntu server?
I don't get what distinguishes the two other than muh iot

I'm new to loonix, running Gnome

is there supposed to be some sort of software center? am I missing something?

>>59118249
Would rather have functioning non-free drivers than non-functioning free drivers.

The freedom to be broken and useless doesn't mean much to most of us.

>>59119014
that uses snaps for installing stuff right?

setup a microsd card for my pi3 with that but haven't really played with it too much, since raspbian werks for me.

Assuming you can use that in a server, but again no first hand experience.

>>59118528
why would you install a bloated and broken system?

How exactly am I supposed to install a new desktop theme from a file in KDE Plasma 5.9?

I've tried the "installation from file" button in the theme chooser, as well as placing the extracted folder in the desktopthemes directory, and nothing has worked; either no change or just a "Theme installation failed" message.

>>59119286
Depends on the distro.

Usually people just use the CLI package manager that comes with their distro of choice.

So I have one of those 2-in-1 mini laptops... 32gb with 2 gigs of ram and an atom processor. I had enough of running windows 10 on it, can hardly do shit with it but I used it a lot for 8 months. I was wondering what would be the best, if possible, to put on it. The screen comes off from the keyboard and allows you to go into tablet mode, can this functionality be retained?

>>59119712
Debian

>>59119785
Try synaptic.

>>59119785
i use apt, since old habits die hard.

but yeah synaptic is good, gnome software hooks well with debian, so check that out but dunno if it's any good now. heard of improvements being made, but again I just don't bother with GUI package managers

>>59114184
touch . file{1..1000000}

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>>59119988
dubsx3

ps -o pid,comm,pmem,pcpu,uname -C $(xlsclients | cut -d" " -f3 | paste - -s -d ,)

In linux most distributions have a package manager, which is somehow a software center.
In debian the package manage is apt
you can search a software by typing

apt search

If you want to install a software you type

apt install <software_name>

if you want to remove it you type

apt remove <software_name>

Some tools exist to provide you a GUI like synaptic, but I don't know anyone using them so I can't tell you if they are good. Command line do the job.

>>59120102
GNU/Linux*

>>59120127
When someone say linux he is talking about the OS. When he say linux kernel he is talking about the kernel.

GNU tards should start considering that GNU is a shit name and adding GNU to anything like GNU/Linux worsen everything

>>59114184
Another one.

echo {1..100..10}

Increment by 10.
>>59120186
>the OS
but anon, it's the GNU operating system

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Did I get a fucking virus?

Google shows some shady results for that TranslateUI process

>>59120186
this is a friendly GNU/Linux thread

>>59120186
It'd rather use the right name that is "shit" than the wrong name that is snappy.

Can anyone direct me to an article that tells me how to add a hard drive to a linux machine? I don't mean the physical hard drive. I mean how to extend the LVM.
I already google'd and they're all giving me different steps and I don't know which one to follow.
I'm using Linux Mint by the way.

>>59120212
>installs GNU/Linux
>makes it a botnet
congratulations

>>59120205
You can also use variables in braces with eval, but unless you're golfing, using eval is bad practice.

a=1; b=10; eval echo {$a..$b}
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

>>59120212
why not kill all wine instances and restart the programs to check?

>>59120212
jesus christ

The most useful command hllp helper is
mv /path/to/the/{oldfile,newfile}
Now you can rename files like a pro

>>59120212
jesus christ htop is hideous. so much wasted space

>>59120212
wineserver -k
>>59120335
wget http://example/stallman/nudes_0{1,2,3,4,5,6}.jpg

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Hey /fglt/, tell the woes of your current distro.

For me Gentoo only needs "lazy" USE flags and it would be the comfiest distro. Currently, if a new software requires you to toggle a USE flag, you have to make a change in a config file. This can be done automatically. However, if you uninstall that software, the USE flag remains. It's an unneccesary hassle to manually keep track of them.

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>>59108004
ebola-chan, duh

>>59120634
ded :^(

What's the recommended book for shell scripting? I plan to gift it to our junior sysadmin at work.

>>59120753
most books are crap and teach bad practices
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide

>>59120753
are you going to fuck her/him?

>>59120807
He is kinda cute.

>>59120822
So he's going to fuck you, then? Are you gay?

>>59120822
is aids-chan gonna have to make a planned visit?

>>59120753
Mein Kampf

>>59120753
http://fish.sh/docs/current/index.html
spend the money on getting him drunk instead

Considering a Debian netinstall on an old unused system. From my understanding:

testing = rolling release
stretch = non-rolling release

right?

>>59121079
experimental/sid is the only rolling release version of debian

>>59121079
Yes. You can always upgrade to the next version or unstable by changing some lines in sources.list

>>59121150
>>59121169
So wait, does testing actually mean packages don't get frozen but you'll stay on the release version, whereas stretch means packages will be frozen for the new stable version?

Do i actually need a home partition? Last time I installed Linux I got nervous I'd run out of space for either root or home, installing on an SSD so can i just not worry about it?

>>59121232
testing and stretch are synonymous.
when stretch goes stable, the next release will become testing

>>59121031
>using a broken meme shell

>>59121244
>Do i actually need a home partition?
no

>I got nervous I'd run out of space for either root or home
you could try btrfs, which supports subvolumes, which is the best of both worlds
separately-mountable volumes, like partitions, only they share the space of the underlying disk, so you don't need to worry about under/over-provisioning them

>>59121434
eh? i've never had an issue with it

Newbie here, dual booting with Win 10.

What version of Ubuntu to use? Just the normal version?

If there's a better distro that isn't complicated, I'l be open to that too.

>>59121444
>you could try btrfs
and lose your data when memefs decides to fuck shit up

im using ubuntu 16.10. i tried transferring files between 2 ntfs external hard drives and it ended up corrupting one of the drives (i stopped it because it was so slow). If linux can read ntfs why is it so slow to write?

>>59121475
mint works well for newbies ubuntu didnt have a ready made low graphics mode so i had to edit shit in grub to boot for first time...or fedora but not sure if they have easy access to proprietary drivers

>>59121475
yeah i would go with the vanilla one.

there is also Ubuntu MATE which I have had a good experience with thus far.

>>59121589
>mint works
lel, so does windows

redpill me on solus /fglt/

>>59121475
>dual booting with Win 10
sorry to hear that

>>59122245
i forgot your name shill, but i see you are still at your old tricks

>>59122245
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux. It's magic.

>>59122245
Last I checked they only had 3 devs and were already having problems scaling up (packages slowly getting stale, bugs piling up rapidly).

>>59122287
>bugs piling up rapidly
Disgusting. Why dont they call an exterminator?

>>59121444
>>Do i actually need a home partition?
>no
um.... WHAT?

I think you do, everything installs to /home an dhas configs there

>>59122788
ayylmao
Partition != Directory

>>59122788
you need a home folder, but it doesn't need to be its own partition, it can just be a folder on the root partition

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>>59122807
>>59122812
Thanks!

For a moment there I thought I had to whip up my external to copy all y data from home to prevent it from getting shat on.

Any tips for a guy who installed linux on a 1TB HDD when he was a noob and forgot to make another partition for his own data, and hence has been storing everything in /home/[user] but now it's wayy too comfy to reinstall and I'm still a little paranoid.

help?

How do i get DD to work properly? It takes ridiculously long to finish, and often the result just refuses to boot.
# dd bs=4M if=~/Downloads/iso of=/dev/sdc1
Is what I'm using but it keeps giving me problems

>>59122871
help with what? you didn't say what you want to change

>>59122902
Are there any downsides to storing everything on /home and having a single partition on the entire drive?

>>59122871
GNU/Linux*

>>59122900
if you're writing a full disk image, you want to write it to the start of the disk, not a partition
/dev/sdc, not /dev/sdc1

>>59122909
if it's an SSD, not really
one downside is that they can't be different filesystems
if it's a hdd, another downside is that OS and program files can end up further into the disk, where it's slower. it's good practice to make a small partition at the beginning of a hdd for critical data, so it's always at the fastest part of the disk

trying to make my font rendering not terrible on arch. I just installed freetype2-infinality from the AUR because someone told me it's the successor to freetype and was recently updated. is there anything else i need to do?

>>59123186
Man ,this gets asked pretty regularly.

What is wrong with Arch's font rendering that causes its users to ask the same question over and over again?

>>59123207
it's just nothing special. I hate fond rendering on every version of gnu/linux i've ever used, except solus, but eopkg is ass. I wish solus fonts would get ported to other distros

I'm selling my GPU and upgrading it but the new one won't be here for a while so I need to use my igpu. Problem is my arch install just boots to a blinking cursor with my igpu plugged it

>>59123186
Just customize your fontconfig like every other programms config. It isn't really hard. In case it is, check the Arch wiki, it has a nice article with example configs.

(I've no idea why so many people jumped on the "infinality" train, because fontconfig is even more KISS)

How do I contribute to open source and Linux projects?
My skill level:
>Took first two programming classes at school in Java
>Took a data structures class in C++
>Currently reading Pointers on C

>>59123299
Learn more and come back in six months

Why aren't you using the most patrician distro, Oracle Linux?

>>59123299
K E K

>>59123289
archfags don't install things that are kiss, they install things that are cool and popular

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>>59123299
You should rather contribute to free software and the GNU project.

>>59123299
being a linux developer is quiet easy

just search the source for typos and correct them, voila - you're a kernel developer

>>59123341
and survive Linus' abuse

>>59123341
kek this is how I added ''linux kernel maintainer" to my resume

>>59123351
>resume
>not CV
did McDonalds hire you

>>59123373
everyone calls it resume where i live
and yeah they did btw

>>59123341
cute commit right here: http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=690b0543a813b0ecfc51b0374c0ce6c8275435f0

>>59123303
That's part of my question. What is the prerequisite knowledge to help contribute? I was just giving you a background of what little I know.

>>59123429
Learn some C and how the kernel is maintained. Here's a resource I used when I started: https://kernelnewbies.org/

which has a better package manager, and which is overall the better distro between fedora and openSUSE?

>>59123452
Easy, Source Mage GNU/Linux.

Whats the command that shows the Distro logo with all the specs of your machine thats always in screenshots?

>>59123477
rm -rf /

>>59123487
>rm -rf /
lol

>>59123477
screenfetch or neofetch
>>59123487
>>>/b/

>>59123494
/b/ doesnt talk about """""""""""""""technology"""""""""""""""

>>59123494
why is neofetch so autistic?
why does it need a config file and generate shitty temp files?

>>59123494
Thanks.

>>59123514
I don't know about the temp files but the config file is totally unneeded

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>>59107586

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is linux mint safe yet?

>>59123733
no

Protip for people running Windows or OS X: there's a very nice RDP like protocol called x2go with clients for your OSes. This lets you use, say, an RPi, a VPS, or a headless VM as your GNU/Linux desktop. It's all done via SSH so there's no real risk exposing it to the internet once you have key auth set up.

How to remove Amazon and other bloat from Ubuntu?

>>59123965
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd* bs=10M

Going through the VirtualBox Mint tutorial, and when I started my virtual machine, it is stuck at this screen with just the logo at the top. Most likely a corrupt download? I just got the http.

>>59123965
https://fixubuntu.com/

>>59124195
what a retarded website
>install a program in order to silence another program instead of just apt-get removing it
plebs these days

>>59123965
sudo apt-get remove unity-webapps-common

Blog post here. I just spent 2 hours pulling my hair out, trying to figure out why my laptop's wifi wasn't working in Mint. I got frustrated only finding shit from 5+ years ago on Google. So then I installed Debian, followed the directions on the wiki, and it still didn't work. Those directions were pretty straightforward. So I go back into Windows and wifi doesn't work. What the fuck? It worked yesterday.

Turned out I accidentally turned it off in the BIOS when I was half asleep yesterday. I saw "WLAN" and my brain thought it was "WWLAN", so I disabled it. I enabled it and wifi worked OOTB on a Mint live USB.

>>59124508
well at least it wasn't broadcom hardware

is there a way to make sudo not ask for password?

>>59124880
Use visudo and uncomment the line near the bottom

# %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL

>>59125034
This is also stupidly insecure on public facing systems.

>>59124508
I'm sick of Ubuntu. Sell me your distro.

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>>59119808
>>59119905
Should it look like this?

I can't find anything like chromium