/wt/ watch thread

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What's /wt/s opinion on dressy chronos?

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>Old
>Swiss

Is this worth anything?

Paid £8 from a charity shop

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I want to buy a vostok. What do I need to know?

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>>59083624
Another Zenith, these can be had quite cheap

>>59083642
not really

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>>59083643
There's 3 or 4 good sellers on eBay, I used shmek, quick response and shipment

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Your favorite desert kike is still kicking, just barely though.

Will take some pics of the new arrivals soon enough.

>>59083643
Pretty simple really.

Buying new shouldn't be an issue in terms of it being franken, though beware of QC issues. Might need to adjust it yourself as well, but it isn't too hard. The two new Amphibia's i had both ran at +5sec per day after regulation.

Buying vintage is a different story, lot's of research on if you're buying a franken or not, whether it's a survivor or some kind of rape child. Consult here or with the WUS autists beforehand.

>>59083643
>>59083691
Sent post too quick.

Was meant to add other than that they are reliable beaters that shouldn't need servicing ever 6l(I've read that komandirskies were made as 10 year disposable watches)

A good cheap watch that no normal fag has heard of or will ever compliment. But who cares? They just werk and you can hear them tick.

>>59083624
For the guy whose casual wear is a blazer, or at least sport jacket, sure.

Thanks to the 1963 for your reply. Here (You)


Do manual winds do best winding once per day?

>>59083624
Dressy chronos send a weird message. What is it you need to time?

"I really liked the best man's speech!"
"Yeah but he went 49 seconds too long."

"What did you think of the boss's meeting?"
"Not a bad concept but he talked way too much. Look! The whole thing took him 23 minutes and 31 seconds."

>>59084183
The difference between once a day and multiple times a day is small and the exact effect will depend how it's regulated. More wound means a watch will run slightly faster than less wound.

So let's say you're winding in morning and evening, and the watch is running fast overall, you could try just once a day and see how it effects the running

>>59084243
Kek, but timing that kinda shit is pretty funny. And you get a free pass doing it on your watch as opposed to using your phone like a nerd.

>>59084243
Timing parts of meetings could be useful. Need to apply the 80-20 rule, and if you're trying to identify time wasters it's good to know how long things are actually taking.

anyone own a luminox?

>>59085164
I'm sure someone does somewhere

>>59083710
what a fucking comfy monster

>>59085174
thanks...

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>>59085212
You asked

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>Buy Miyota 8215 to play with
>disassembly was ez pz
>assembly doesn't seem too bad until this point

Having extreme difficulty fitting the bridge on and aligning it with all 4 wheels.

Should I buy a quartz Grand Seiko?

>>59085315
Yes

>>59085315
Yes.

Which one you thinking ?

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>>59083642
Probably worth more than what you paid for it, neat that it has an antimagnetic movement, but no, this is not a find worth thousands of pounds.

>>59084285
>>59084243
>>59083624
If you're a lawyer, or an accountant like me, or really anyone who slaves away at a living by selling their time, a chronograph can be really useful for keeping track of time spent on all kinds of little bullshit. Dress chronos fit well into an office setting, but really any kind of chronograph will do.

>>59085315
(You)

>>59085455
Whats wrong with that?

>>59085493
A quartz grand seiko is upwards of $2.5k and it has no business being that price.

It's not got a complicated hand built movement it's just quartz. And it don't matter how good the case finish is it's still steel and not precious metal.

>>59085453
lol

>>59085623
lol the quartz movement in the GS isn't some cheap movement.

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>>59085315
Depends. I own one, but I'll admit I find most quartz Grand Seiko dials to be a little sterile. Pictured is mine, which I wouldn't have gotten if it didn't have the bit of extra red on the dial and wasn't one of the few non-diver Grand Seikos with lume.

>>59085639
And it's still quartz

>>59085623
>accurate to 10s a year
>50 years between servicing
>adjusts to temperature 500 times a day
>custom grown quartz

Plus all the finishing & Gs Name

>>59085660
>adjusts to temperature 500 times a day

That's gonna be useful in an office kept at a constant 22 degrees.

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First for beat up shitter. The Victorinox isnt mine, but i like the size. This guy also has a nomos

Grand Seiko is the ultimate rich mans watch.

It's saying "yeah I spent $5,000 on a watch but I want everyone to think I'm just wearing a $10 seiko from the thrift store".

>>59085692
Do you ever go home. Or leave the office. Or have a beam of sunlight hit your arm.

Quartz is very bad with fluctuating temps.

Why would you waste time making a high accuracy quartz movement when you can just have it sync to a timing signal broadcast?

>>59085623
They also cost downward of 2.5k

Where are you getting this fucking number? Even full MSRP GS quartz can be like 2.1 for sbgx059 and normal models, and after discount or gray market you can get around 1.7k or something.

>>59085660
50 years theoretical oil life. You should get it checked out more than twice a century though.

>>59085874

>Where are you getting this fucking number?

An online Seiko boutique then converting to dollaridoos

>>59085790
GPS antenna watches are still very big. And atomic watches can only sync to so many signals. So many places never have a signal. Like you can't even make this arguement to an Australian or Brazilian.

And it's cool to push the timekeeping of the wrist as fast as you can go too.

>>59085897
Here's an authorized dealer of grand seiko listing a full MSRP GS

http://www.azfinetime.com/grand-seiko-quartz-sbgx059/

But I'm sure you can still get some off, even from them. But yeah, much less gray market.

Do Accutron watches have any horological worth?

They're quartz but the second hand is constantly in motion instead of beating

>>59085982
It still is beating just very fast. The old space view is pretty cool historically. I bought a new accutron ii and returned it becAuse it felt so cheap

>>59085982
If you mean the old ones, they do, and they're not quartz

>>59085937
What is the gay market for gs quartz?

>>59085999
No the new ones

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Original spaceview is a watch for ants

>>59086017
The hand beats. Just fast.

>>59086007
Your father.

I didn't think quartz needed servicing?

I've got my dad's 1982 Seiko SQ and it still works. Gains a few seconds a week

>>59086056
The new one is 43mm or something and has terrible case design.

>>59085995
>>59086057
Fuck you nineball i said it first

>>59086098
>I didn't think quartz needed servicing?
>Gains a few seconds a week

>>59086098
There are mechanical watches from the 80s that have never been serviced but still work.

But like your father's watch, continuing on when oil dried up long ago means they are grinding to dust slowly on the inside

How do people actually keep track of like a two second gain? Hell at most I try to match the minute

>>59086145
After 35 years it's still an order of magnitude more accurate than a decent mechanical watch. Seems pretty good to me.

>>59086160
Generally by looking at a computer that uses NTP

>>59086160
Atomic synced wall clock

>>59086160
Autism

>>59086189
But accuracy between quartz and mechanical isn't up for debate. That's not the problem here, so don't try that. Point is it shouldn't be losing that much time per week

>>59086237
>Losing

>not just opening your watch and spraying in some wd40

do watches gain time when you're having fun?

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Poor fag college student reporting in.

Looking for another watch in the 150-200$ price range. Any recs?

>>59086280
just buy a watch with blood diamonds in it and pour in liberal tear gun lube.

>>59085309
what is the problem anon, anything i can help you with?

>>59085790
>I'm a complete pleb with no appreciation for horology

Good to know.

>>59086532
This is the board that shits on anything with quartz cause "muh mechanical, its just quartz!"

>>59084243

>not planning a wedding to the second

It's like you don't want to get married.

>>59086056
So? It's a nice watch. I got a 214 myself.

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I may not have enough time these days to be around as much as I'd like, but I really wanted to share this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzmrhnpQJxY

Enjoy it my friends.
And comment, if you can.

Cheers.

>>59086874
>>59076506

>open invicta
>get the battery screw lose
>the little clamp flings it across my desk somewhere
welp.

>>59086874
Hi Lawyeranon

When did you start collecting watches?
How often do you purchase them, and what are the criteria?

Best luck

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>>59086974

Would it be possible to get a running WW2 Era german watch for $500?

>>59087036
are you familiar with this feel, nineball?

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man i like the nezumi voiture, it's 40mm, thin and has a nice case design

too bad it's fuckin 400 euros for a mecha-quartz

>>59086974
And nothing of value was lost

>>59087139
There's also the fact the dial says "quarts" which is kind of a turn off.

>>59087102
Oh yeah, it's the story of my life. Tiny screws, tiny springs, tiny bars. Everything seems under control until it fucking ZIP! It flies the fuck away. And there's usually no way to tell where it went.

Next half hour crawling around looking for something the size of a louse in the carpet, in grass, on concrete, whatever. And sometimes it just fucking disappears. You find it a week later down the hall from the room you were in. It must have had a spin and fucking curved down the god damn hallway an extra 10 feet.

>>59087192
that and the hands are kinda short

apparently nezumi is gonna start making more watches, like an automatic version of voiture so maybe those issues will be fixed in that one

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>>59086874
>no terrorist

Are there any vintage style chronos for cheap based on the seagull st19 that arent the 1963? Around 200 euro

I'd like a racing or pulsemeter

>>59087197
I gave up quickly cause my place is a mess

>>59087460
Clean your place.

Get a robot vacuum to help. These things are fucking great.

>>59087556
Living that cyberpunk life of being close to a landfill

>>59087556
Are they actually not a joke?

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>>59087857
I have the Neato robots. They work great. They go from hard surfaces to carpets or rugs without issue.

Some day we'll even have a robot that can vacuum stairs.

>>59087943
i think you're thinking of wifi controlled lightswitches

>>59087943
>vacuuming

>want a black bay homage

Option 1: mod an invicta 8926 I already have

Option 2: build a completely new watch out of chink parts and a cloned eta 2824 movement.

Option 1 is cheaper but option 2 means I have more watches

>>59088106
Why would you want that? You walk by switches when you enter the room

>>59088238
Sorry i thought that's what you were talking about

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>tfw no Tornek-Rayville TR900

>>59088343
Did they throw that one under a lawnmower to test it out

>>59088473
old 60s navy watches. So probably a boat propeller

>>59088480
Excellent

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>>59088227
?

>>59086290
Orient Bambino

>>59088554
>chink brack bay

>>59088554
I believe he said homage, not blatant almost fake.

>>59088253
Why would you think that

>>59088554
Why does the black bay not get any flak for having leather on a diver?

>>59088681
fuck off ninefag

>>59088752
Because noone actually dives with one

>>59088663
Define homage, faggot. Something with a copy of the design/style without claiming to be the real thing.

>>59088752
I agree. I swapped the leather for a silicone and it's much more practical for getting wet.

>>59089066
There's a big difference between a watch with some of the same design elements and a fake they forgot to print the logos on.

>>59089334
Get it with the companies logo on it then.

>>59086874

That's a really neat design, I wonder how they plan to display the running time on it.

>>59088219
>being a nigger

>>59089437
>cleaning

>>59089547
>collecting welfare

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my speedy reduced is falling apart. none of the chronograph hands are resetting to zero, and the dial and bezel are not aligned - do i bring this to the omega store, or find an independent watchmaker? i'm in nyc, so neither one should be a problem. i'm wary of bringing it to omega because i literally had this serviced two years ago...

>>59089547
That's why you get robots to do it?

>>59089596
too poor
>>59089563
>

>>59089584
Its punishing you for not getting the man on the fucking moon

>>59089692
handed down from my dad, who refuses to wear anything handwinding. that happened long before i knew anything about Haute Horlogerie and Swiss Memes.

>>59089736
>Omega
>Haute Horologie

Pick one

Why does the man on the fucking moon have 17 jewels and my chink shit chrono has 21?

>>59089891
Man on the fucking moon has 18. Is your chink shit automatic or manual wind?

>>59089891
because the man on the fucking moon doesn't need 21

>>59089964
Manual

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>>59090010
Alright, well 17 is generally considered "fully jeweled" for a manual watch. MOTM switches to 18 jewels a few years before the switch from the 861 movement to the 1861 movement. 21 jewels is considered fully jeweled for an automatic movement.

You certainly can put in more jewels, and their effectiveness and use changes. But at some point you just can't do any good by adding any more jewels. For instance, this watch has 100 jewels. But really only 17 do anything, and there are 83 extra ones.

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Would you say this watch is fully jewelled

>>59085757
If you're buying one that legit looks like a shitter than you have rocks in your fucking head.

While they're good stealth wealth pieces I would definitely put them below the "ultimate" title because s Vacheron Constantin, Lange or Patek in white gold would probably take that title.

>>59090124
>nothing on the hands
didnt know this was a pleb thread

>>59090080
Also, think of "fully jeweled" like "full HD" you can get more without it being pure bullshit marketing.

Jewels can be embedded, for example, on a plate where an open springbarrel sits. In this case the the plate acts as the "side" of the springbarrel and helps the mainspring wind and unwind easily without friction from the plate. This is one of the techniques Seiko uses to achivements the thin 6800 family movements. That takes an extra 4 jewels to do.

For reference: Grand Seiko Hi-Beat watches use 37 jewels.

The Low-Beat Grand Seikos use 35.

What's the ultimate shitter brand and watch?

Don't just say Daniel wellington that's the low hanging fruit.

>>59090271
well, invicta doesn't have any 20k+ watches anymore afaik. Maybe something like this then for 7k

https://invictastores.com/invicta-reserve-swiss-made-automatic-watch-black-case-with-black-tone-stainless-steel-band-model-18708

>>59090327
>7k invicta

Wtf

>>59090124
I would say that watch is comprised of at least 97% jewels.

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>things that trigger you
why must they do this

>>59091311
>two watches you should never buy
and nothing of value was lost

>>59090327
Well you are getting an Sw500 movement which are chronometer certified.

>>59091644
>Sw500 movement which are chronometer certified.
You got a source for this information?

>>59091760
Well it's essentially a Valjoux 7750 all the specs are the same.

>>59086056
Accu II is a watch for homos

>>59091785
Alright, I'm not sure what you're saying here.

I am like 99% sure the movement in that invicta is not chronometer certified.

And I don't know of any example of a SW500 watch that is. Can you enlighten me?

>>59091830
Aren't Valjoux 7750 movements Chronometer certified?

The SW500 is a clone of the 7750 with the same exact specs.

>>59091854
In general no. There might be some 7750s which brands have adjusted to chronometer specs and have had certified though I am not sure I've ever seen one.

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Speaking of the Valjoux 7750, there is a Chinese clone on the market. How come the market is flooded with Seagull ST19 based Chronographs. And no Valjoux 7750 clone chronographs? Both movements go for about $100 and the Valjoux 7750 clone would be the better movement.

>>59091854
So ETA movements have grades. You have

Basic
Elabore
Top
Chronometer

As you move up thru the grades you have movements that are only adjusted to like 2 positions, all the way up to 5 positions for top/chronometer. But it's not just the amount of regulation/QC that each grade goes thru. The actual material used to construct the balance wheel, pallet stones, escape wheel and other things all change as you go up in grade. Also the design of the shock protection goes up in grade.

So while some are certified chronometers, others are not, and they might not even be constructed to the level required to pass the test even if you tried to regulate it for it.

Now keep in mind you can have these sort of between grade things, particularly from swatch companies. Like if you buy a hamilton it may have an elabore movement, but they'll put the incabloc shock protection that you normally see on top and chronometer grade movements.

So this is part of the reason you'll see watches using the "same" movement go for different prices, the grade of movement.

>>59091867
ETA sell 7750 in 3 grades. Elaborated, Top and Chronometer.

Is the "Chronometer" grade just a name and they're not actually certified?

>>59091941
>Is the "Chronometer" grade just a name and they're not actually certified?
Is this rhetorical?

So... that $20 chinese mechanical watch I had a go at regulating in the last thread that I managed to get within +15 seconds on wildspectra..

After 6 hours it's either running 6 hours fast or 6 hours slow. It's hard to tell.

>>59092006
>6 hours fast or 6 hours slow. It's hard to tell.
????

>>59092032
It's 05:30am here and it's showing 11:30 so it's either gained 6 hours or lost 6 hours

>>59092054
It lost 6

then gained 12

>>59091923
Is there a point to all this "adjusted to multiple positions" stuff?

I have a watch that gains 10 seconds a day dial up and loses 10 seconds a day dial down. In my mind that's perfect because I can just alternate every night to keep the watch in perfect time.

If it was gaining 2 seconds a day in every position it would actually be worse.

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r8 my new Seagull

>>59092120
>Is there a point to all this "adjusted to multiple positions" stuff?
For one, it can ultimately be part of CQ, cost savings and product binning.

For anyone who doesn't know the 6 positions are:

Dial up
dial down
crown up
crown down
12 o'clock up
12 o'clock down
(other terms may be used)

If they only do 2 positions, I think they adjust to crown down (like arm down at your side, crown points down,) and dial up (like typing on your keyboard.) But I don't know that for sure, I've heard other people say things like this but never have seen any confirmation.


>I have a watch that gains 10 seconds a day dial up and loses 10 seconds a day dial down.
That's the idea, if you can negate your daily loss/gain by putting it a certain way overnight it's good.

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What happened to the guy at Invicta who designed this watch?

Did he die?

It's a decent watch unlike literally every other watch they sell.

>>59092336
The "guy at invicta who designed this watch" never worked for invicta.

>>59092351
Maybe they should hire his services again.

>>59092362
That's their business model.

All watches should have display backs.

I have about 400 USD to spend and I've never owned a nice watch. What do I buy? Inb4 400 isn't enough or some other gay shit.

>>59092401
Save up at least another 199,600 dollars.

>>59092401
4 Casio G Shocks or 40 Casio F-91Ws

>>59092412
I fuckin knew it

>>59092401
Well, get a mechanical seiko
Maybe a cheap mechanical hamilton

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>People who accept company cheques then complain they were "scammed" out of their watch online.

Does anyone else enjoy posting pictures of real watches on reddit and asking if it's fake and having all the autistics trying to "spot" the fake.

>oooo the date doesn't look quite right
>the bezel isn't as shiny as it should be

>>59092336
>guy at Invicta who designed this watch

it's literally a Rolex sub rep

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>>59092526
>Does anyone
>enjoy posting
>on reddit

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Should I sell most of my watches and get an Aquanaut? I'm somewhat tempted.

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>>59086963
It's great to see Habring's production numbers going up. One of the first thing I read about Habring was the concern expressed by Richard and Maria about how hard it was to actually make a profit. Bigger production ensures the future of the brand.
Hopefully, I'll come across a Jumping Second Pilot soon.
Enjoy your Habring m8.

>>59087008
I always loved watches and I bought a few cheap ones during my youth. Gladly, thanks to my mother's intervention, I still have every and all the watches I ever owned.

I bought my first "serious" watch when I was in the verge of finishing college and started working, if I remember correctly.

I know it sounds a bit simple, but I buy a watch when I fall in love with it and I'm convinced I wish to wear and take care of it for the rest of my life.

Until I don't encounter another watch that invokes this feeling in me I won't buy another. When I do, well...

Thanks m8. Same to you.

>>59087297
I don´t like most plastic watches and neither most electronic digital ones, my TimeComputer being the gorgeous exception. Sorry m8.

>>59089391
I was hoping they'd show a sketch at the end of the video, but I think they'll left that part to the brand's designers.

>PIC: An old photo from JLC's Master Class. (I managed to not screw up anything.)

Is the seiko SNA411 a piece of shit or good?

>>59092717
The only good looking part of that watch is the Patek logo and you know it

>>59092724
Pic looks like someone without a hand wearing a watch. Can ppl with stubs wear watches?

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>>59092717
I like the aquanaut. And if they put a more angular, hard-lined and masculine bracelet on it I'd like it much more (rather than the current, so rounded and 'bubble-like' bracelet it has now.) But as it stands, I'd rather a nautilus really.

>>59092798
LOL
That's my knucklebone.

>>59092717
The Aquanaut is not as impressive as other Pateks, the boring hands and odd dial combo in particular. You might regret this.

Before you do anything in that regard find an Aquanaut irl and make sure you like it that much. If you do, go ahead.

>>59092869
Are you lawyer anon? I'm new here

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>>59092869
Broad hands! Nice hands! Powerful!

Imagine if Patek could actually get their hands on some Seiko LumiBrite to fill those hands!

>thread is 18% ninefag

>>59092916
yep, I'm

>>59092934
You get me Nineballs. The current hands and especially the second hand are not proper for that dial and numerals.
I'm not asking for the same hands as the Nautilus, but just take them as an example of great hands design.

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>>59092961
Clearly one of our best threads yet.

No, but seriously, it's been pretty slow. Anon is too busy to post much today.

>>59092997
Yeah, I get you. They're not impressive.

But seriously, they should beg seiko for lume. Why settle for 2nd best lume?

>>59092781
Yeah that's probably true.

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>>59092724
>my TimeComputer being the gorgeous exception.
DOPE
O
P
E

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So I've got my Accutron 214 and my ESA 9162 ultronic... How horrible is upkeep on an Omega ultrasonic? The movement is beautifully ridiculous in concept.

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>>59093449
You mean a megasonic? Well if la sourris breaks in it you're fucked. I've rarely seen that happen though. If you happen to know a watchmaker who'll not only service tuning forks but this one in particular you'll be fine. Otherwise Omega themselves will also service it for a hefty fee (think $1200+).

>>59093547
Ya, megasonic. Thanks for the input.

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>>59093547
not him but I've wanted a megasonic that looks like that for a while now, if possible with day too, maybe even a nice black dial
but the only working, semi-decent looking ones I ever see being sold are the square constellations which I don't love at all
I think the seamasters like pic are cool but they seem even more rare than the other round ones
reeee

>>59093794
>getting a megaSANIC 420 blaze it
also

fuck off ninefag

>>59093810
fork tech is the dankest

>>59093794
Just keep on the look out for one m8. I'm not sure that particular case style ever had a black dial though.

On that note, there's a (unfortunately non working) megasonic pocket watch up on ebay right now. Never seen one of those up for sale until now.

>>59093865
link?

>>59093884
www.ebay.ca/itm/371872568362

I'd get it myself if it was actually working.

>>59093865
yeah I'd never seen one before either

>>59092724
Thanks for reply

Best luck in collecting

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Anyone purchased a cheap second hand watch from India?
Looking at Seiko 5's atm

>>59094667
Just don't.

>>59094667
If it's not fake it's got replacement parts

>>59094667
Never buy pooinloo watches m8.

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>>59086098
>fixed up quartz watch from 1975
>loses several seconds a day
>cleaned and oiled it yesterday
>still 0s to atomic
Hope it stays that way. But yeah as long as it has moving parts it'll eventually need a service. Chink quartz will die in a few years, a Miyota 2035 might need a cleaning after ten-fifteen years, a vintage 70's quartz will probably have needed one in the 90's-00's.

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>>59086280
>>59086298
>mfw my father lubricated our Yantar wall clock with goose fat fifteen years ago
>mfw it still runs flawlessly

What's the best 'how-it's-made'-ish video for watches?

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>>59094699
>>59094717
>>59094726
Yeah you're prolly right, the reviews on these guys seem a bit off.
pic related, there's many pages of this shit.

>>59094789
There's the vid in the OP. Have these too, why not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpvxg0-WChY
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBB0272DFB67C66E8

>>59094667
You can get a brand spanking new Seiko 5 from Singapore for 70€, how poor are you?

>>59094825
Well, the one in the OP, doesn't really tell about the specific production, which is really what I'm after.
Thanks for links.

>>59094789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE8EOTX7HwU

>>59091435
>hating on nice things

>>59091311
>changing straps to some low quality aftermarket garbage that doesn't even fit with the design

I srs hope you don't actually do this

>>59093449
Good looking watch anon

>>59095474
such as a leather strap?
>letting companies decide what a watch should be worn with

>>59091311
So they can earn more shekels when the band breaks. You will have to go to a certified watch repair shop™ :^)

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Morning watch lads is this too big?

>>59095577
Great memed, my friend

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>>59095577

>>59095557
the casio would look nice on the proper leather band.

>>59095590
>>59095600
What's wrong with it ?

>I want something like Panerai except completely tasteless
>Uboat: I gotchu pham

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Any fämälämäzoids actually like leather straps?

>>59095864
I can't stand them personally, bracelets or mesh are pretty much all I like.

>>59092717
>>59092809
>>59092869

The Nautilus is the only watch in that genre that I don't find hideous. I hate the dials on the Aquanaut and the RO (I also wouldn't be caught dead wearing an AP at this point) and the case shape of the Overseas doesn't do it for me either.

It honestly baffles me that people like the Aquanaut and RO, especially.

>>59092724
>JLC's master class

That's really cool. I need to take a course like that at some point, it would be really fascinating. I'd love to learn to to my own adjustments in addition to regulations.

>>59095134

Jesus Christ that video is a great demonstration of how little you get for your money from a Panerai by comparison to a Grand Seiko.

Just watch this video by contrast to the Panerai one:

https://youtu.be/v0hR9jagpSM

>>59092724
Wait is that an arm stump?

Do domed watches have less water resistance? If so, why?

>>59096187
What

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Do these watches keep excellent time?

Why are they worth the price tag?

>Made of cheap material (steel)
>No complications

>>59096187
Why would they?

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>>59095864
>Any fämälämäzoids actually like leather straps?

Favorite strap so far is a leather one piece strap.

Oyster bracelet looks nice but boy do I fucking hate it when my wrist changes size throughout the day.

>>59095693
>Except

>Implying Panerai's aren't completely tasteless

Archie mortgaged his house again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgOSW-KHyHM

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>>59095864

Yes. On dressier looking sports watches and on proper dress watches they look nice.

>>59086874
Higher resolution, please.

>>59096178
watching machines work is beautiful

What exactly is wrong with Invicta?

>>59096429
To be fair with the price of a shit shack in Australia costing $500,000 dollars Archie is probably sitting on a real estate goldmine and is probably hoping that the Colonel's chicken kills him before his bills catch up to him.

Also that is one classy Patek he bought.

>>59096178
I want a Grand Seiko now but its too much money

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59096721
I wonder why the bank keeps giving him money.
They should know by now he won't ever be able to pay them back.

Can someone recommend me something like the Pope but with a date wheel?
Also, not by Swatch.

>I want to spend Rolex money on a watch but I want it to look like a watch some poor ass middle eastern country issues to it's soldiers

>Panerai: say no more senpai

>>59096429
>I'm a little bit short
>I'm sure I'll repay it
>I have a little bit outstanding
>if it doesn't hurt, it's not worth it
>if it doesn't hurt, it's not worth it

This guy is a complete idiot

>>59096339
Its a patek, and its got a nice hand finished movement with a bunch of gold in it

>>59096853
>Its a patek

So you mean to say you're paying for branding and marketing hype.

>>59096799
>the Pope
what is this?

>>59096429
whered the ladyboy meme come from

>>59096178
IF I pay enough can I specify that it was made by one of the qt girls and get a signed picture of her?

>Archie's real name is Paul Pluta

What

>>59096917
He's got a channel called Archieluxery MGTOW where he talks about MGTOW shit and how much better Thai women are.

So obviously the internet meme is anyone that likes Thai women are secretly into ladyboys.

>>59096948
he also thinks hes famous on youtube. he only has 35k subs.

>>59096962
wew so he is a massive faggot fedorafag as well.

>>59096976
>Not living the MGTOW lifestyle

>>59096986
I'm not a faggot, anon.
MGTOW is literally allowing the pussy to dictate your life.

>>59097012
How is it? It's just the concept of not thinking the end goal of life is to get married and have children.

You don't have to completely ignore women altogether you just have casual partners.

>>59096895
What else did you think it meant?

>>59097030
The whole point of MGTOW is to not let pussy guide your life and to do anything to avoid it. it's literally putting the pussy on a pedestal.
Hell the reason he's MGTOW is he couldn't land a real wife.anyone he tries would know that he has nice things but is in massive debt.

>>59097054
I thought in these threads we liked to kid ourselves that luxury swiss watches are worth the price

>>59097030
>You don't have to completely ignore women altogether
WHAT?
I have stayed out of relationships for 9 years and you are saying that it has nothing to do with some meme online?

>MGTOW
Being so goddamn beta that you have to go to the extreme to prove your self worth. This is the saddest shit ever. No different than the lunatic feminists

>>59097056
The way he's chosen to live his life is to get into debt buying multiple luxury watches. That's not compatible with marriage. I don't knock the guy for living his life how he wants to instead of being dictated to by women and society.

>>59097106
The saddest shit ever is marrying some fat 35 year old worn out cunt with a kid because society tells you to.

>>59097106
They're so sad Wizardchan sees them as allies

>>59096429
>patek strap looks like $5 PU cheap shit

is this usual?

reee normies out

>>59097156
That's what you're afraid of? That's why you joined the sad beta club? You don't need a club to not date fat chicks and single moms

>>59097180
>TFW a 24 yo kissless virgin and I still mgtow as massive betafags

>>59097281
>club

???

>>59097292
That's exactly what it is. Everyone wants some sort of identity and people to relate to

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Stop being fags talk about watches instead

Someone should really replace springbars with a system that doesn't required you scratching at the lugs and leather strap for 10 minutes before it finally gives way

>>59097412
yes pls

>>59097412
Drilled lugs make removing the springbar very easy.

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>Buy "gator" strap
>Someone created the fold right where the "scale" part is so it looks really off

how the fuck did this get through QC?

>>59097458
Drilled lugs are absolutely a godsend.

>>59097487
China

>>59097487
should've returned it

I have an old watch where the hands are misalligned so the hour and minute hand aren't properly lined up on the hour.

Do I need to take the hands off and put them back on? Or can i just take the movement out and nudge the hands into the right place?

>>59097537
Set the watch to 12 and bang it on a desk a few times

>>59097526
I've only just opened it and realised.

>>59097567
rip, return it

>>59097602
The postage cost on an $8 strap hardly seems worth it.

>>59097609
Order crocodile this time

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>>59097623
Even with the weird looking fold at the top it still looks better than the previous strap I put it on.

I thought being a military watch it would look correct on a raw leather strap, but it's too dressy.

>>59097654
no it doesnt

>>59097654
>but it's too dressy
Wat. That pictured one looks great

>>59097683
Maybe you can't see in pictures but the case is polished and shiny so the strap needs to be too.

>>59097713
Now I know that you have autism

>>59097728
I have been known to send items back because they don't shine correctly.

>>59096895

To some extent, obviously, but are you are also getting a truly hand-made timepiece with a level of workmanship and finishing in a totally different league than any watch made on a production basis.

>>59096895
>>59097054
>>59097080

See above. The workmanship is on another planet from a Rolex or even a Grand Seiko. That's not to say the prices are reasonable, but at the very least it is a clear step on from production watches.

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Anyone here travel extensively with luxury watches?

How safe are you? I hear horror stories like customs taking your watches and never returning them because they're considered high value. Does this shit really happen?

>>59097763
An items worth should be apparent. You shouldn't need to say "I spent $30,000" and then have to spend 10 minutes justifying why it's worth $30,000. It should look like $30,000 and the Nautilus doesn't. It's not visible that something is hand made.

>>59097713
yea no, the flat strap looks better on that watch, it's not a dress watch.

>>59097784
I've heard this happen, and here's a thread on whatuseek about a German guy who had several watches taken from him by Serbian border officials.

Not only that he was actually arrested and states his was "lucky" to avoid a fine and prison time. And he was even banned from going to Serbia ever again.

Wtf is this?

Why do customs have the right to take your stuff?

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f90/stolen-8-pieces-i-love-3583722.html

>>59097802
no watch looks like its worth $30k unless its made of expensive materials with gems

>>59097857
Grand complication watches do

>>59097873
not really considering you can get complication watches for <$1k

>>59097889
I'm talking about watches with multiple complications, perpetual calendar, moon phase, equation of time etc

>>59097915
Hell the seagull moonphase is only 1.2k

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How do you make stainless steel a darker shade like this?

Is it lacquered or something?

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>>59097915
>I'm talking about watches with multiple complications, perpetual calendar, moon phase, equation of time etc

Liek dis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NDIErw4vgw

>>59097942
oh yea, and seiko has one under $1k
short of rare materials, no watch looks like it should cost more than a car

>>59097962
Yes that's a watch that looks expensive.

>>59097802

You'd have to see and handle one in person to be able to say that. A lot of high end finishing doesn't really come across well in photos. Plus the difference in level of finishing on the movement would be totally obvious to the naked eye.

It's also inevitably a matter of diminishing returns. It's astronomically more expensive to make something complex by hand rather than a production process, the price difference will almost inevitably be larger than then apparent difference in finishing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=297-ovrU3UM

This isn't made from rare materials and looks like it's worth a lot of money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=297-ovrU3UM

Why does there seem like there is no interest in producing complication watches out of quartz so they can be sold cheaply and mass produced?

Complications like perpetual calendar and moon phase are more simpler to do with quartz and computer chips.

But I can't find any dress watches in the "style" of grand complication watches with quartz movements.

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Guess what? I managed to find an exceedingly rare Seiko SBPG001 on Y! Japan Auctions a couple of weeks ago.

Probably the only digital watch ever made with a stainless steel case, atomic radio sync, solid link solid end link bracelet, and electroluminescent backlight.

Also, I put on a plaid shirt specifically to take this picture.

>>59098029
If i come to southern ontario can we r ouch watches

>>59098017

Because the very concept of "complications" is intrinsically tied to their mechanical complexity. Their is close to zero overlap between people who buy quartz watches and people who would be interested in traditional complications, so no one bothers.

That lack of overlap is why quartz watches are almost never designed in keeping with watch design traditions (I.e. they look "wrong" to watch autists), because their is almost zero overlap in those two markets.

>>59098038
>If i come to southern ontario can we r ouch watches

What did he mean by this?

>>59098058
TOUCH*

>>59098058
>>59098128
And possibly penises if that's cool with you?

>>59098143

Watches maybe, penises definitely not.

>>59098143
I'm in Hamilton when do you get off work

>>59098227
>2017
>not wanting to touch penii

I shiggy diggy doo gay boi.

>>59095648
Seriuosly?

It's far too big and it's ugly as fuck.

Are small divers available? I've got auschwristz and but want a diver. Going on a snorkeling vacation in a month.

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Look what came in the mail today.
Pros:
- Wears smaller than it's actual size like most Seikos.
- Brilliant dial, changes shade of blue depending on lighting
- Incredible lume, 5 seconds of sunlight and it lasts for ages
- Good bezel movement, kinda stiff at first until you've rotated a few times
- Hacking & handwinding because of the 4R35 movement, a nice change from the 7S movement in the SKX and Seiko 5s

Cons:
- Bezel is a total bitch to grip
- Bracelet is a pain in the arse to adjust, uses pin and collar
- Bracelet rattles a lot
- No AR coating on the crystal, so kind of hard to read in bright areas because of the dial reflections

Overall it's a nice limited edition. Any questions and I will answer them.

>>59098525
Very nice, I was thinking about getting one too.

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>>59098504
There are a few 38mm dive watches around. Seiko makes the SKX013. If you want a reddit tier watch Christopher Ward makes a 38mm version of their diver. If you want Submariner tier Blancpain just started making the 50 fathoms in 38mm.

>>59098525
What model?

>>59098611
Can you speak for the quality of the blancpain

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Is this watch too big?

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>>59098900
>>59098900

>>59098900
>>59098900

>>59097974
Anon, the only thing thats done by hand on that watch is the finishing, the parts amd case etc. Are still produced by machines/production line

>>59098550
It's good, bezel on it is much nicer than the one in the one on the turtle version

>>59098636
SRPB09K1

>>59092401
Look at the Hamilton kaki aviation. It's automatic has 28800bph, sapphire glass, non integrated lugs, display case and an ETA2824-2 which is easy to go and service. They have a 38mm and 42mm I think.

Or you could try and find a discounted Christopher ward trident divers watch.

>>59096187
Amphibias have 200m we with a domed crystal don't they?

>>59096709
Garbage styling and even their one good watch is covered in far too much INVICTA branding.