/hpg/ - Headphone General

>Budget
50-60€
>Location
Germany
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
doesnt matter
>Comfort level
dont care much
>Past headphones
Sennheiser PC 320

Also which standalone microphone do you suggest for 10-20€ ?

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Want to buy second set of full sized headphones to compliment my HD650. I need two things: soundstage and bass. They can be V-shaped.

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Anyone here make some mods to the T50rp mkiii?

>Budget
130 usd
>Location
Mexico
>Source
phone
>Type of headphone
over
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
comfy af
>Sound signature
bassy or v shaped
>Past headphones
none

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50€ for Superlux HD660, did I do bad? My old headphones are 50€ House of Marley Positive Vibration On-Ear Headphones Mist
The cable on the marleys is very short, and the ear pads have gone stanky, I couldn't find replacements so I went for new headphones.

Pasting from last thread
>Budget
100 Euro, hard limit
>Location
Portugal, the ass of europe
>Source
Mainly PC but sometimes i listen to music while im outside
>Type of headphone
No earbuds, i share the headphones
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
The more the better
>Sound signature
I like bass but im not too picky with this price range, plus i have not that much experience
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 419 --- Really liked them but they broke and I need new ones. If they were still for sale I would get the same model

I got 3 in mind that seem ok but if you guys know anything better i would like to see it
- PIONEER SE-MS5T-K
- Sennheiser HD 4.30G

>>59034674
>No, Bluetooth driver for Linux. You should install actual binary driver (usually from WIndows) for your Linux BT to work right. It's probably a BT3 driver and Momentum uses BT4.
Ah, so I should connect it to Windows, install drivers, then try connecting it to my laptop again? My laptop appears to have 4.0 (besides spec sheet):

Features: 0xff 0xfe 0x0f 0xfe 0xdb 0xff 0x7b 0x87
HCI Version: 4.0 (0x6)  Revision: 0x1000

https://askubuntu.com/questions/591803/how-to-check-bluetooth-version-on-my-laptop

So guys I own a pair of m40x and have been using my phone for playback

Would I see an improvement quality wise if I were to buy a Fiio x1 II ?
My library consist mainly of flac

Audio myths that need to go:

>Headphone form factor alters the soundstage
"Open back headphones have better/larger soundstage"

>Soundstage is an important parameter
"Open back is the best for gaming because of the soundstage"
"You want good soundstage for classical music"

>Frequency response for a genre
"Bassy response is great for EDM and rap"
"Grados are the best for rock"

>Working and competent amplifiers audibly distort/color the sound
"Tube amplifiers are warm sounding [because of they distort]"
"Solid state is analytical"

>Amplifier operation classes make them sound inherently different
"Class A is the purest and highest fidelity"
"Class D amplifiers are noisy"

>DA-converter topology carries a specific audible impact or benefit
"Multibit has better detail and soundstage than delta-sigma"

>Some transducer types are better than the others or carry inherent properties in how they sound
"Electrostatics are fast and clean"
"Planar magnetics have great bass"

>EQ hurts fidelity
"Equalization adds distortion"

>Lossy files are audibly different or worse than lossless
"MP3 sounds horrible"

>High resolution formats sound different/better compared to Redbook
"DSD sounds analog"

>Headphones, amplifiers or DA-converters are important in compression artifact audibility
"You can't hear the difference because your gear doesn't resolve enough detail"
"Using streaming services with HD 800 is going to sound bad"

>Wireless data transmission inherently and audibly alters or hurts the sound quality
"Wireless headphones are not audiophile"

>High impedance is hard to drive
"You need an amplifier for those HD 600s"
"Above 100 ohm you need an amplifier"

Now what did I miss?

This thread dead?

>>59034878

It's only just begun.

>>59034800
no, what I mean is that you should install binary driver from Windows into Linux (you don't need windows to do that). See what your Linux distro says about that.

>Budget
400 if new
300 if used

>Location
USA

>Source
iPhone or Asus zenpad 3s

>Type of headphone
Wireless for travel

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Very

>Sound signature
Not important

>Past headphones
Sennheiser hd558
Sennheiser hd598
Shure SE215
Sennheiser Momentum IEM

>>59034972
XB950BT
MDR10RBT

Where is a good site to get flac music?

>>59034679
Do you have an amp? You could just EQ them.

>>59034813
>Now what did I miss?
Stuff about CSD, cables, balanced setups, sighted/blind testing.
And preferably some citations to the contrary if you're trying to educate people.

>>59034940
Guess I'm fucked then. Sounds complicated.

>>59035125
from buying cds and making your own

>>59034980
Er.... Nothing more towards the high end of my budget?

>>59035125
This is one of those cases where Bing is your friend

>>59035172
Figured it out.

All I had to do was go into Volume Control (pulseaudio), go to the configuration tab, and set the momentum headset to High Fidelity Playback (A2DP Sink).

Simple. Got it from here:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/775523/after-updating-to-16-04-bluetooth-audio-a2dp-mode-stopped-working

>>59035172
no you're not. what distro are you using? what's the name/version of the BT card you have?

you should ask for help in /fglt/ on step-by-step procedure.

If I managed to get it working, so can you. I'm not technical at all and use Linux.

>Budget
200 usd max
>Location
California, Freedom Land
>Source
Fiio M3
>Type of headphone
Over
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very
>Sound signature
V-shaped
>Past headphones
Cloud II

>>59035270
Only problem now is latency.

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Y/N?

>>59035191
>>59034972
I'm currently kinda set on over-ear Sennheiser Momentum Wireless (~200-300 Used, 400 New)

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>Budget
200$
>Location
Norway
>Source
PC
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort
Dont care that much
>Past headphones
Audio Technica m50

>>59035356

Do you need earphones that fit withing your budget for a V-shaped sound signature?

Then yes.

If you said no to any of that, probably still yes, but keep looking anyway.

What do you guys think about the MEElectronics Air-Fi Matrix2 AF62 headset?

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What's your final boss of ultimate headphone quest?

Mine are these. After listening to dozens of cans at a high-end electronics store, I settled on these as the headphones I'll be saving money for. They sounded amazing and were super-light.

What's your dream headphone?

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>Angled or standard?
>Pleather or sheepskin?
What are the best pads for these headphones?

>>59035806
They haven't been measured with any of those pads. Get whatever you find the most comfortable.

>>59035773
>What's your dream headphone?
None tbqh.

Got a pair for dt770's for listening at home for hours and hours and a pair of ath-m50x for mobile usage - they are not as comfy, but the foldable shit is quite nice

Best budget headphone earpods is the OnePlus Bullets V2 for $19.95.

Should I just keep the silica gel in my headphone case?

Can't be bad to keep shit dry, right?

>>59036004
Unless there's any leather in there, in which case it might desiccate it.

Just keep them in a cool, dry place and they'll last forever, gelpack or no.

>>59035951
Post measurements.

>>59035146
I'm not too comfortable talking about CSD plots myself. Something about them not showing any additional information on top of frequency response plot with minimum phase devices is what you're after right? How would you word it?

>cables
I figured this would be obvious but I guess it deserves its place there as you keep seeing the same bullshit online and cable vendors selling their snake oil are still alive.

>Cable conductor material has sound properties
"Gold cables sound warm"
"Silver is more detailed and transparent"

>Balanced audio gear have sound properties
"Balanced DACs have better instrument separation"
"Balanced amplifiers have better driver control and can drive headphones to their fullest potential"

>Sighted listening is a reliable way to establish claims about sound quality
"The reviewer said they had excellent detail retrieval and PRaT"
"This amplifier has some warmth to it. I know because I own it"
"The detail retrieval has significantly improved with this DAC"

I remembered a few others:

>Exclusive sound APIs or output modes have audible benefits
"ASIO and WASAPI have higher sound quality than DirectSound"
"Kernel streaming has the best detail"

>Damping factor relates to bass response and driver control
"The bass is muddy and congested because of the low damping factor"

>Amplifiers specifically alter low end response
"Smartphone just doesn't have enough juice to bring out the bass"

Maybe things about square waves and impedance, too?

>And preferably some citations to the contrary if you're trying to educate people.
This could work as audio myths FAQ with those added. Each point would easily fill more than one post's length if explained thoroughly though.

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>>59034637
>Budget
US$300, less the better
>Location
US
>Source
Whatever is near me, typically a computer or a phone
>Type of headphone
ideally full sized, but noise cancelling
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
very comfortable
>Sound signature
anything but mid-centric or too bright
>Past headphones
some pair of Bose earbuds. It was the older MIE2 ones. They had good bass, but they were uncomfortable after long periods of time. I'd like to have something with noise cancelling though. I was looking at the Bose QC25s, but I figured that Bose are the equivalent of Apple in the audio industry. I wanted to ask people that know more than I do.
Thanks

>>59036039
>Unless there's any leather in there
Well shit.

>Budget
$150 Maple syrup dollars

>Location
Canada, Ontario

>Source
Phone, Crap Chinese MP3 Player

>Type of headphone
Full Sized, for inbred sized ears

>Open or closed
Closed, these are for a work environment

>Comfort level
100% - These are going to be worn for 8 hours a day in an office. IDGAF wanking about audio quality, these just need to be comfortable for extended periods of time. I wear glasses, so something which won't press the frames painfully against my head would be nice.

>Past headphones
I've used an old pair of Steelseries Syberia 200's at work the last few years. That should give you an idea of how little I care about audio quality... The pads were just barely large enough to fit around my ears.

>>59036053

Impedance: 24Ω
Coil Material: Copper-clad aluminum
Diaphragm: Aryphan Polyarylate
Wire Core Material: Enamelled copper wire
Driver Unit: 9mm dynamic
Total Harmonic Distortion (THD): <1% (1000Hz, 1mW)
Sound Pressure Level (SPL): 107dB
Rated Power: 3mW
Frequency Range: 20 – 20,000Hz
Cable Length: 1.25m
Weight: 14g

>>59035951
Xiaomi piston 3.

Should I buy headphones or a dragon dildo?

>>59036097
There's nothing of value there in terms of sound quality.

>>59036134

I have no idea how to measure subjectivity.

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>>59034637
Anyone tried Bluetooth receivers on nicer headphones with a removable cable?
Not for quality, more for Netflix in bed type stuff

>tfw you order $400 headphones/amp but you didn't get the proper rca cable to connect it to your pc because you thought you already had a cable and now you have to wait a whole day staring at your shiny new headphones

>>59035841
>Get whatever you find the most comfortable.
How am I supposed to know what's more comfortable? I'm asking because maybe someone fell for the M40x meme like me and has already replaced the pads.

>>59036312
>$400 headphones/amp
>Not using a proper external dac (modi2, fulla2, dragonfly red...), but a shitty motherboard line out.

-_-

>>59036344
modi is currently sold out on amazon so I just bought the magni for now

I thought I had one of those splitter things, but no

also, a dac is a dac.

>>59036344
>a proper external dac
>dragonfly red

Anon...

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>>59036065
Anyone?

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I listened to both, and I gotta say, these easily beat the HD600s when amplified well. Awesome soundstage and fantastic low end response. Quality isn't as bad as some say imo.

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>>59034637
Best budget headphones coming through.

>>59036389
Schiit do sell directly from their website.

I'd suggest fulla2 over modi2... same dac, cheaper, more useful overall.

>>59036427

Oh wait, that's a sabre rather than delta sigma.

They're well received, but measure badly.

I haven't tested any myself, so can't say re: psychoacoustics.

>>59036603
it doesn't have rca out though

>>59036603
>I'd suggest fulla2 over modi2
this, MM stack is a meme, only required if you need the big chunk of extra power.

>>59036060
>How would you word it?
Something like this:
>Driver ringing at -36 dBFS for 3 ms is audible (while it's being masked by a complex signal)
SBAF is of course a goldmine for quotes on "speed"
"Faster more delineated treble."
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/audio-zenith-pmx2-redux-and-quick-impressions.60/#post-2140
"Treble was fast, refined and exquisite."
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/stax-srs-2170-sr-207-earphone-system-measurements.3595
Zeos also made a review talking about how fast the Stax bass is (and how they're not headphones but "earspeakers"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l0EtAF_lEk

>Maybe things about square waves and impedance, too?
Square waves just show the same thing as the frequency response, so they aren't totally garbage as long as you don't pretend they show something else. You already covered the "higher impedance = harder to drive" meme in your previous post, but feel free to go on.

>This could work as audio myths FAQ with those added.
Might as well add it to the wiki then. The OP won't have room for it and spamming it in every single thread would just be obnoxious.

>>59036342
If your ears are touching the drivers, you should get some thick pads. They could help with the clamp too.

wtf is this 'multibit' meme?

>>59036707
really expensive dacs for audiocucks who don't realize that dac quality levels off at $300 MAX

>>59035146
>Do you have an amp? You could just EQ them.
EQ soundstage?

>>59036732
B-but there's modi2 multibit at less than $300.

MeeAudio M6 Pro

It's literally all you will ever need.

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>>59036768
>$99 dac with $150 meme treatment

>>59036756
Yeah, just make a 3-5 dB dip between 1 kHz and 2 kHz. That should give you plenty of "soundstage".

>>59036791
Still, no explanation.

Wtf is multibit? Wtf are the different DAC technologies and their pros/cons?

wouldn't it be a better idea to get an audio interface so you have a dac for your headphones AND speakers?

>budget
50-100CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
phone and PC
>Type of Headphone
IEM, noise cancelling (active or passive)
>Comfort level
At least average.


I'm just looking for advice on some generally decent IEMs that will be good for blocking out as much noise as possible. At home I have opens, but at work I want something that will help me tune out the fucking people at my office without needing to fuck my hearing up with the volume. I realize closed over-ear is probably better for this, I just don't want a pair like that right now.

>>59034762
They should be just fine. Careful with a few of the superluxes though. Some of them need quite a bit of juice

>Budget
50-100€
>Location
Europe
>Source
Phone or mp3 player
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Quality over comfort
>Past headphones
Nothing, because I haven't used them at all on my phone.

I just want to listen to music on my daily commute, lasts roughly 1 hour and I'd want some nice IEMs for that, please help.

>>59036866
here
>>59036785

>>59036846
in a nutshell, the multiple "bits" are supposed to preserve original samples found in audio files. this are the same "bits" you hear about with 16 bit FLAC files. the idea is that the audio isn't simplified the way "normal" dacs do. however, there is little actual evidence beyond placebo that this sample preservation is noticeable at all.

>>59036914
here
>>59036785

>>59036065
Hd598cs is great but I think they're midcentric. Maybe try the sennheiser dj? They got more rolled off treble if I remember correctly from some YouTube video that compared them to source file...

>>59036065
>>59036090
Oh shit you wanted noise cancelling too? Meh. Just stick with Bose dude honestly. It seems you like the sound anyways and the comfort/build quality is very good

>>59036915
Oh, fuckin' great. I didn't think I'd find anything that cheap with detachable cables. Thanks.

Order placed, they'll be here tomorrow.

>Budget
$800-$1000
>Location
USA
>Source
1/4"
>Type of headphone
circumaural and open
>Comfort level
just fuck my skull up
>Past headphones
HD 600

>>59036090
Mfw I replied to one of the wrong comments
Mfw no greentext meme arrows
Mfw no face>>59037044

>>59036998
>>59036915
I thought the recent batch had some problems, no?
Also, I listen to various range of music, from metal to synth, are these going to suit that?

>>59037062
Stax.
LCD2
Idk how much thx900 go for but those also seem kinda nice

>Budget
up to £70
>Location
UK
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very

Was trying to find ones with Bluetooth as well

>>59037097
Oh wat doih. Not open. Still stax and planar are still good to go

>>59037062
Edition X

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What are these?

>>59037190
m50s

>>59037190
Autis M100

>>59037062
HD800s.

>>59037190
hd 600, she has good taste

buy her headphones now, the hd 600

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>>59037196
>>59037206
>>59037394

>>59036693
>delineated
kek
>Treble was fast, refined and exquisite.
6moons tier
>Zeos
Can't put myself through this.

>feel free to go on
I'm out of ideas. Maybe some will pop up reading through this thread.

Fast and clean senpai.

I`m in a budget and deciding between these 2 any input?

M40x
Brainwavz HM5

>>59037077
pls respond

>>59037715
just buy them
they're 40€

>>59036462
>I listened to both, and I gotta say, these easily beat the HD600s when amplified well. Awesome soundstage and fantastic low end response. Quality isn't as bad as some say imo.
Not even close. HD600 wipes the floor with HE400i. They're not even in the same category IMO. You have to go way up in the HiFiman's line, say HE6, to beat HD600's. I know that sounds crazy but it's true. Just look at the graphs to dispel your biases.

what's a good europstan reseller that ships to the middle east

>>59036785
>>59037728
What about SoundMagic E10C?

>>59034789
M40x

>>59034801
Unless if your phone's dac is absolute shit then nah.

>>59035125
arrrr

Anyone here own any Audio Technica Az or Ax series phones? If so, how are they compared to the ADx series?

I just ordered a sennheiser 598 HD for gaming and chill Spotify music and YouTube.

Did I did good?

>>59038995
yeah you did great

t. sennshill

>>59038995
You did great.

That's one of the peaks in value.

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Recommend me a good headphone stand guys. it's for my new HD600 if the size matters. I finally feel like I have something worth cherishing and displaying.

>>59038995
>I just ordered a sennheiser 598 HD for gaming and chill Spotify music and YouTube.
Sure did. They're godtier. Best bang for the buck that Sennheiser makes. Other brands have few gems like that too.

>>59038995
no, you paid an extra $40 for an ugly, recolored, foam modded HD 558 which are not even that good to begin with

looking to upgrade from my dt 770,
I'm currently looking at the following options:
DT 880 (250 Ohms)
or
HD 600

no gaming, just music, I listen to almost every genre

>>59039311
stands are tacky
get a pillow if you truly care about it

>>59039311
i like the Luxa2

I got a free D03K. Not too much an audiophil or anything, but I do have a pair of XPT100's that I use. Do I need an amp, and if so, what's a recommended one around these parts?

>>59039349
>HD 600

>hey I want to upgrade from my headphone
>here's one of the things I'm considering
>*the exact opposite of current headphone*

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>>59039362
>i like the Luxa2
Looks pretty as fuck. But will sharp corners damage the headband?

>>59039422
what did he mean by this?

>>59039385
no

>>59039349
I'm getting the 880 600 to make up for the fact that i can't afford the hd 600

If you can afford the hd 600 why not just buy that? It's likely superior to the dt 880s

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>>59039460
No, my case king stand I have has sharper edges then the luxa. Plus it has the rubber padding around it. I really like the weight to it and that the bottom is rubber so it doesn't slide around either or make noise.

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>>59039638
Not sure how best to show edges but it feels sharper to the touch. I really like how the headphones fit into the grooves on this stand tho.

>Budget
$50
>Location
USA
>Source
phone?
>Type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
decent
>sound signature
balanced
>past headphones
nothing worth remembering the name of

I'd like something with a removable cable or very sturdy cable

>>59037855
idk man, my ears just disagree. the midrange of both is superb, and i enjoy the highs of the HE400i just a bit more. As for low end, i will admit the HD600 gets the win, but i'm not a basshead by any means. I feel like it's just preference.

>>59039467
770's are V shaped while the 600/880's are closer to neutral

>>59039716
Superlux had-681 evo

>>59039802
Not that anon, but I thought the 681 Evo's were anything but balanced?

>>59034637
>Budget
100€
>Location
Germay
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I like them soft because I wear glasses and it hurts when they press too hard

>>59039737
Graphs don't lie bro. And hundreds of comparisons on Goldenears and the like go against you.

About the only planar headphones that I've tried and liked were Audeeze. HiFiman line is grossly overpriced and overrated. Planars always have a loose/muddy bass which always bothered me.

If you have cash to burn, go for electrostatics. You get a bit more performance but you better have golden ears or be under 18 to actually be able to hear differences.

what the FUCK are golden ears

>>59039940
It's a Korean website that provides measurements of headphones and in-ears.

>>59039638
>>59039685
Thanks for the pics anon! Beautiful!

>>59039893
AKG K550
Sennheiser HD 598Cs

your choice. both are excellent.

>>59039716
superlux hd668b

>>59039508
thank

>>59039846
Theyre nowhere near balanced; The 662 EVO are closer to balanced.

so the shp 9500 is getting update? Whens that happening?

>>59039349
HD600 are well acclaimed. Can't go wrong with these, and provides some variety vs buying same brand again.

>>59039342
HD598 are widely reviewed as clearly being the better of the three variants though.

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>>59040619
a foam modded HD 558 sounds the same as a HD 598. they use the same housing and the same drivers.
not that reviews matter to begin with

tell me about the x2's

>his headphones aren't Japanese

>his headphones aren't germanic

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>his headphones aren't AMERICAN

Do koreans make good headphones?

>>59040799
No, only good measurements.

>>59040745
They're headphones

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What's a good portable amp for AKG M220s?

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>his headphones aren't CHINESE MASTERRACE

What are best headphones with biggest sound stage and comfy?
I was thinking on getting either K 701/702 or DT880

I don't want to buy a fulla2, what are my options for a cheaper amp/dac?

>>59037595
>do you need portability over comfort?
M40x
>do you need comfort over portability?
HM5
>do you need comfort AND portability at the expense of your budget?
M40x with HM5 pads
>do you need comfort AND portability at a lower cost at the expense of build quality?
Status Audio CB-1

>>59041024
M3 or E10K

>>59041127
Which wins in terms of sound you think?

I've only tried CB-1 and M40x, but I'd have to give the edge to CB-1 in terms of flatness.

Liked the M40's bass more, the highs less.

>Budget
up to like $2k or so, whatever
>Location
usa
>Source
desktop with mm stack
>Type of headphone
full
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
dont care
>Sound signature
dont care
>Past headphones
hd650

i just want something that looks wacky for muh hipster cred but is similar in sound quality to my hd650s. I was thinkin about stax sr-507, but thought I'd ask if yall know of any super exotic headphones

>>59041208
elears, those are only $1,000 though and I've heard some people say they don't like them

>>59041208
hifiman

A note for HD600 users.
After 4 years of 10h a day, everyday wearing of them I literally got my skull bent in on top. Don't do it, shit hurts.
Put something in-between the headband and your head to spread the pressure.

>>59041158
>Which wins in terms of sound you think?
It's really up to personal preference: unless you try them, you can't really know; if you're not a fanatic with very refined taste in frequency responses it's likely you'll end up enjoying all of them roughly the same, which is why you have to use other parameters to guide your choice.

Personally I wouldn't buy the CB-1, since the build quality is clearly shit, and the internet is full of QA issues, but I've included them because they're cheaper and your budget might not cover the M40x and pads combo (which would be the direct competitor).

>>59041266
>what are you looking at, round skull?

>>59041208
>Past headphones
>hd650

Gotta get something more neutral this time around... ;)

>up to like $2k or so, whatever

HD800s.

>>59041208
>>59041400
>HD650
>Needs something more neutral
HD600
Seriosuly, I heard fucking everything. HD800, LCDs, Stax SR-009, and even had a chance to listen to Orpheus HE-90. I always go back to HD600.

>>59041238
>>59041247
thanks, i'll check em out

>>59041400
neutral is a meme, I just equalize to what I like anyways.

>>59041444
>Seriosuly, I heard fucking everything. HD800, LCDs, Stax SR-009, and even had a chance to listen to Orpheus HE-90. I always go back to HD600.

I'm on HD600. I hear HD800 has silibance issues, but that HD800s fixes those, and is consistently better than HD600.

If only if I had them to actually test that :X

>>59041489
I must admin, HD800 are nice headphones but heavily overpriced. Definitely not worth what they ask for it.

>>59041507
Diminishing returns are expected as price goes up.

Knowing alternatives to HD800s would be nice. I have no idea what else is up there at that price range.

>>59036693
>Square waves just show the same thing as the frequency response
There is no purpose to using a square wave generator when you have a computer and FFT analyzer (and appropriate ADC) to compute more information better, and more clearly. Square waves only show less.
It might appear similar to the DFT as a discretization of the continuous spectrum, but the square wave discards even multiples, inverts sign of every other harmonic, and attenuate the amplitude of higher frequency "sampling" points.

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>Budget
50$
>Location
Canada
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphones
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort
Yes plz
>Sound signature
Bassy but still clear-ish
>Past headphones
I have the shp9500 and am looking for some cans to use in public

I want to use these outside so portability and sound isolation are a big plus

I don't have an anime girl picture right now so please accept this cute cat.

>>59042799
koss portapro.

Adorable cat btw.

>people act like the big velour open headphones are comfy
>"its like le epic pillows on you're head"
>it actually gets damp if you wear it too long (more than 30 mins)
>when it gets damp the velour feels rough on your skin
>causing irritation and itchiness
>"le you don't feel it on your head at all"
>you feel that shit constantly on your head, especially around your ears
>"le it doesn't get le hot at all and lets the ear breathe"
>it feels like a fucking humid ass swamp inside the ear cup

bunch of fucking liars

>>59041024
fulla2 b-series. fulla1.

>>59042912

>gets damp
>fucking humid
How fat are you that your ears sweat w/ open headphones?

>>59042979
155 pounds

>>59042912
>it actually gets damp if you wear it too long (more than 30 mins)
Maybe for (You), but I've never had a problem with velour pads for hours at a time.

>>59042799
Porta Pro are open, which will affect their use in public.

They're a bit out of your budget, but the Creative Aurvana Live sound like what you want.

They'll dip to $50 US at times as well.

Considering buying these instead of the Bose equivalent.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AXVURFY/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=B00AXVURFY&linkCode=as2&tag=thedaionl-21

Anyone got any experience? The Bose ones do cost literally ten times as much so I'm not expecting there to be no difference, but realistically are these gonna work at all?

Is there a quick and easy way to get an e10k working on linux mint?

>>59036060
>minimum phase devices
Its phase response would be uniquely related to the magnitude of the frequency by Hilbert transform. An explanation Sean Olive recently mangled, but he may have neglected some bits for brevity. Everyone trips over their words once in a while.
A rough way (until I think of a better one) to consider minimum phase behavior is to say that there is one resonance that has most of its energy clustered right near the envelope peak. The oscillation undergoes steady exponential decay, without secondary reverberation or delayed ports.

As to whether devices really do operate in the minimum phase:
-Ports will not be in the same phase
-Same for multiple drivers and crossovers
-Room echoes
-Low frequency leakage effects (earpad or elsewhere) introduces some allpass

Ports are common with closed back and in-ear headphones. Leakage is the norm, multiple drive units are fashionable for in-ears.
It's still a fair approximation for a single driver headphone, min phase will generally dominate.

>not showing any additional information
There are often multiple useful graphs that show the same information.
The utility is to rearrange the presentation so that a new, useful interpretation may result, highlighting interesting features better.
Everything linear can be characterized by the impulse or the frequency response, but would you really want to look only at the IR to determine the tonality of a headphone?

>CSDs stuff
Multiple problems before perception, several can be associated with uncertainty principle. Did I ever say why I thought Goldenears CSDs were ill conceived?
You have to give up high time or frequency resolution when doing time-frequency analysis. I said this before, using a collection of tuned filters as a simple example. Some other issues can include windowing and bin leakage, and the general problem of features not being clearly distinct from min phase.

Don't want to type more.

>>59042912
lose some fat you obese piece of shit. go get a gym membership or something. if you sweat from velour, having anything else in contact with your skin will only be worse.

>>59043947
No. *grin*

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All right guys... I need an amp/dac. Do I go for Modi/Magni stack or just get Fulla2?

>>59043990
MM stack is a meme, just get the Fulla2.

is this the place to ask about speakers?

>>59044224
lsr 305s

>>59044224
Yamaha HS5's

If you want powered monitors that is.

>>59044224
This >>59044456
Not this >>59044487

>>59044456
can i get something like this unpowered? I already have an amp

>>59044509
scroll craigslist, read reviews, buy used
easy

>>59044554
>read review
all audiophile reviews are garbage

>>59044568
I meant find information about them
when I searched for amp+speakers I saw NAD310+Dali505 combo for $200 so I asked here and couple other resources and replies were like GO BUY RIGHT NOW
so internet helped me. when I was trying to put audio system with new components at least on paper it was pain in the ass. many choices, always over budget and losing big chunk of value if buying new. so buying used is just easier. you don't have much choices and better price so you can sell it later if you want something different and don't loose money.

>>59044689
ah, i see what you mean. I'll look around

>>59042799
hi pete

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>>59042912
>obese people problems

is there a big different in sound quality between the CB-1 and SPH9500?? beside the 9500 being fully open.

going to buy the CB-1 but was wondering if I should also buy the 9500 as well

>Budget
Max 150€
>Location
Finland
>Source
Phone (Xperia Z5
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Past headphones
Various Sennheisers
Currently using Sennheiser Cx 3.00
>Music
Pretty much anything, but a lot of orchestral stuff as well as rock and bass heavy stuff

Basically just want a reliable pair of daily drivers with good quality sound. My current Sennheisers are good, especially on the bass front, but the cable is broken in several places having only used them for 3 years or so.

>>59034637
So I've ripped the dangly cable on my MDR V-6. Had a good run for four years, only ever replaced the pads, but I'd like to make it to a decade. While resoldering everything in here I thought I would try the jack mod and maybe even use thicker gauge wire to wire everything. Are either of these two things worth it?

>>59043990
fulla2. More useful than the stack, cheaper.

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Sony MDR-1000X or Bose QC35?
MDR-1000X: sound quality, design, touch controls, Sony-exclusive LDAC bluetooth codecs
QC35: better noise cancelling, more comfortable to wear since cups are deeper, slightly cheaper

Is there an equalizer worth a shit on Android?

>>59046081
>QC35: better noise cancelling
I've heard some people say they think the mdr-1000x has better anc

>>59046198
I would agree on that and I would definitely rank the QC35 above 1000X in sound quality.

>>59046353
Really? Because I've heard Bose in general aren't too good in that department and some comparison review (cnet I think) placed 1000X over QC35 in sound quality.

>>59046081
How's the touchs controls, by the way? I've read when people wore them under hood it triggered the sensors.

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>>59046696
The response of the MDR-1000X is bad imo. It's boomy and thumpy, sounds thick. There's a notable lack of clarity due to notched out upper midrange and the boosted mid bass.

QC35 is bassy. It's too bassy for my taste but the response is free of any glaring issues and it's smooth across the more critical audio band.

These hold true if you run them in active mode. Without the active circuitry they are both terrible headphones as far as sound quality goes. Pic related is Sony and here's QC35:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BoseQuietComfort35WiredPassive.pdf

>sighted listening impressions on cnet
It really doesn't get much more useless than that.

>>59036573
How good are these

>>59043642
Just plug it in? it just works on debian

>>59046974
meme entry level hi-fi

people will try to trick you and say they're better than the HD600/650s.

>>59047011
What would be good open back for under 100?
I have superlux hd681 rightnow cuz cheap.

>>59047065
The sph9500. they're good but not that good as people make it out to be

>>59046782
they still sound better than the qc's
especially when nc is on cus qc really falls apart when you activate that

>>59047082
ohh ok so >>59047011
is just saying that its overhyped for what it is, but it still is good for what it is?

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>>59046995
not working for me. is it possible that I ran into this?
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=177420
this laptop had usb problems before

>>59034637
>Budget
50-150€
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
Smartphone
>Type of headphone
full-sized, Bluetooth
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
I want to use it for the gym so the comfort needs to be good for 1-2 hours
>Sound signature
don't know
>Past headphones
cheap earbuds

>Budget
R$200 = 65USD
>Location
Brazil
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Past headphones
N/A

I just want it to have really strong bass as well.

>>59034691
what are you doing with it?

/hpg/, help me out. I'm stuck between the Grado SR-80e and the SR-125e. Price difference is about 60 buckaroos. Is the extra 60 bucks a worthy investment to get the 125?
Other headphones are not an option btw.

Does anyone actually have a Beyerdynamic Dtx 350 m? Innerfidelity guy says it's one of the best cheap on ears.

I just need something decent for the office for less than 100 €, I've been researching for days but everyone keep suggesting full size headphones, which are not office friendly, not in my case anyway.

>>59034762
huh, that design is a direct copy of the beyerdynamic dt770.

>>59047099
wat

Ever seen the performance of the QC35 in active mode?

>>59048123
btw anyone id these? Probably made for the show but it would be cool if these were real

>>59042912
lost some weight

>>59048372
fucking stax man

>>59048123
>>59048372
Looks like a Stax.

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>>59048542
>>59048577
thanx

>>59048372
Stax Nova Basic/Signature or Lambda 303 depending on the timeperiod.

>>59047218
Uhm, that output is the OPTICAL OUT. pick the other one for a regular 3.5mm.

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>>59034663
Are you satisfied with your current volume level, and do you have noise?

I personally like the AKG K240 Studios, but they are somewhat flat -- not everyone likes that.
Needless to say, based on my questions above, I recommend you get an external DAC+AMP, if you don't have one.

>>59048672
Nice ear speakers.

>>59048061
Well it's stock aside from pads, I was seeing if anyone else had done some mod.
I'm thinking about filling the cup with clay, and adding some cotton.

Opinions on AKG K1000? a mate is selling them for € 200

>>59049147
They sell for more than 200 and are discontinued. God soundstage though look ridiculous. Frequency response is also pretty good. Snatch'em.

>>59047011
>Unironically implying people believed Zeos' review

>>59047167
They're really good for budget headphones. I would compare them to an HD 558 in terms of overall sound quality.

>>59049216
>Frequency response is also pretty good.
Post measurements.

>>59048227
I've seen these floating around, curious about their sound myself.

Too bad they don't come with a detachable like the other Superlux's.

>>59049147
Bright, no bass, extremely insensitive and the design makes fall off of your head. Opinion: bad. Could be a collector's piece if you're into that.

>>59049861
Check wiki, reference audio analyzer has a few. You can Google more.

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>Budget
Around 100 USD
>Location
Burger
>Source
Laptop and clip zip
>Type of headphone
Full sized over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High. Going to be used 10 hours at a time
>Sound signature
Bassy

>>59050145
>Check wiki, reference audio analyzer has a few.
They are quite clearly worse than DT 880. Those measurements are garbage though.
http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/report/hp/beyerdynamic-dt-880-pro.php
http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/report/hp/akg-k-1000.php

>>59049147
200€ is a bit too much for something that doesn't measure up to HD558.

noob question here

do you have to use realtek hd audio manager? is that software needed because it comes with the motherboard or something? if not, are there any good alternatives for audio management?

>>59050971
Just use the realtek drivers. There's a lighter version than the full program. You do need it to control stuff like the digital output.

If you have a DAC and use USB instead of SPDIF, then you don't have to bother.

Thoughts on DT880?

>>59051177
They try to go up against HD600, but fall short.

>Budget
150-250
>Location
US
>Source
PC Mobo/phone - would prefer to not need amp to drive.
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open preferably
>Comfort level
Important
>Sound signature
Neutral or V-shaped, willing to be flexible.
>Past headphones
SHP9500, HD280

Like the SHP's, just looking to upgrade from them.

Been looking at the X2's which I like for the detachable cable, but I don't want too extreme of a V sound.

The 598's are intriguing as well, but I hate the dry sound from the HD280's and not sure if the 598's are enough of a departure from that sound.

DT770/880's are also on my list, but I don't have an amp at the moment. Are the 80 ohm versions easy enough to drive with just a phone/pc?

>>59051613
>neutral or v shaped
but they're complete opposites
9500 are far below your budget

just get dt880 with an amp
and if you really don't want to, get dt770 without one

>>59051613
Fidelio X2

>>59051613
I don't find my X2s to have 'too extreme of a V sound'. The DT 770 and 880 are more v-shaped than the X2 imo.

You can also look into the K7XX (or possibly into a used K712).

If your music isn't lossless, is there any reason to buy an amp/dac and headphones over $100?

>>59051923
On eGlobalCentral, the K712 is $230 USD+FS

>>59051923
Thanks, X2's are the favorites right now it looks since they're easy to drive.

Seems like the DT's have a better chance to sound harsh which I'm not about.

>Budget
50-100€
>Location
Europe
>Source
Mp3/phone
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Sound>comfort
>Past headphones
None I can think of, just shitty ones that came with previous mp3 players.

Also, I'd like one that has a good sound for a variety of music genres, as I don't limit myself to one genre.

Just brought some Fidelio X2, whats the best bang/buck DAP I could buy? X1 II, M3, XDUOO X2, Ruizu X2??

>>59052267
I wouldn't trust those sites, that one seems to be based in HK. I'd rather just find one of similar price on eBay, where requesting/making a return/refund (if needed) is probably a lot easier.

>>59052272
Yea, the X2 is very easy to drive, runs off of my phone and tablet

>>59052575
>runs off of my phone and tablet
Oops, meant to finish off my sentence with 'runs off of my phone and tablet to ear bleeding levels, with no noticeable sonic difference (to my ears), compared to using an amp.

>>59052572
I have a first gen X1 that I use for work, has yet to give me a problem with anything, including the 8000+ files I have loaded on it.

Can't comment on the others though, as I've never owned any of them.

>bought HD600's
>can hear the valves clanking in every recording
>can hear when the choir takes a breath

this sucks, it doesn't sound like music anymore

>>59052251

Define what level of lossy audio it is. IMO, 320 kbps and V0 sounds just as good as FLAC from most sources I've heard, even $800+ ones. 128 kbps and below to some 192 kbps, on the other hand, sounds tinny and veiled My opinion could be taken with a grain of salt though, as I'm 31 and have moderate hearing loss.

>Budget
100-150 CAD$
>Location
Canada
>Source
PC
>Type
Full-sized over hear
>open or closed
Closed back
>comfrot
Very comfy, will wear basically all the time
>Past headphones
Sennheiser momentum on-ear

How are Audio Technica ATH-M50x for everyday computer use?

>>59052708
The majority of my music is in 320.
I was wise enough to know that higher kbps is better, but too foolish to just get flac or wav files.

Just wondering if an amp will significantly improve the sound when it comes to mp3/lossy formats or 320 files?

>Budget
220 usd
>Location
Mexico
>Source
Phone or maybe ruizu x2
>Type
Full-sized over hear
>open or closed
Closed back
>comfrot
Very comfy
>Past headphones
Cloud II

Everyone just get a job and buy stax

>>59052740
get the m40x

>>59052839
Not much you can get for 220 USD with the crazy dollar prize.
Since you didn't mention sound signature I'm going to guess you don't care. I got a pair of AKG K550s on Amazon for 2200 pesos a little bit over a year ago. They're fucking amazing.
Also a pair of Momenmtum 2 Over Ear for 4500 pesos during el buen fin last year.
Your best bet is to lurk Amazon and Mercadolibre regularly and wait for a sale or you'll end up buying garbage if you pay full MSRP.

>>59053031
Why? Compare them to the m50x

>>59053114
More neutral and cheaper. If youre looking at M50's for home use, youre looking for the wrong phones.

>>59052448
pls respond

>>59052709
DT770

How much of an upgrade are the ATH MSR7's over the M40x's?

>>59053169
Why? A third of my time is playing vidya, two thirds is listening music. Are the m50x bass heavy or why don't you recommend them for home use?

>>59052839
Just checked Amazon Mexico. The Momentum 2 for Apple devices are on sale for 4700 pesos. That's pretty good and a solid pair you will definitely enjoy.
I got them slightly cheaper and could pick Apple or Android remote controls but if you want them now that's a great choice.

>>59052740
the m40x is similar to the m50x but has less bass & isn't shit

if you want something bassy, get xpt100/hm5, they're AROUND the same budget but better

if you don't want bassy, why were you considering m50x in the first place? Because of the reddit memes or some shit?

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>>59053195
>DT770
they're 235$ in canada

>>59053327
My friend got them and suggested them to me. Why are they shit? Exactly I mean; is it build quality?

>>59053248
If you're looking for something that is V shaped, DT 770's might be a better option for home use. Do they sound better? I can't tell you, that's subjective. They are way more comfy though.
For on the road, go for the m50x's.

If you want something more flat go with m40x.

>>59053230
Not much. Wouldn't recommend it if you already own M40x.

>>59053341
Bloated bass, painful highs are the generally cited reasons.

>>59053248
For vidya, M50's have NO soundstage. Theyre not bad for music but not great. For portability, they're a decent niche choice. DT770 80 Ohm would be a better headphone overall if you want a V-Shape.

>Budget
Up to $100. Can't pay more since taxes
>Location
Brazil, will be importing.
>Source
PC/Smartphone
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 202, moved on to a Sony Gold Wireless Headset (I found them to be good, but the build is cheap as fuck)

I've been considering the Sennheiser 558 HD, Beyerdynamic DT 440 and Creative Sound BlasterX H5. Someone said DT 440 > 598s, but I can't find any other claims to validate that information. A review also claimed the SoundBlasterX H5 to be on par with 558 HD, though there's a lack of direct comparison with the HyperX Cloud II.

>>59053376
What would be a closed, neutral upgrade from the M40's in the $200-250 range?

HM5's, MDR's or something similar seem more like a lateral move and the 770's aren't neutral.

>>59053341
They are not shit, they used to be /g/'s god tier headphone. Its just that the price has since been increased and now they are out of the best bang for your buck range. Then a Youtuber came around and started hating on them and reddit started liking them and because of that /g/ hates them now. Still a good set of cans though.

>>59053490
>they used to be /g/'s god tier headphone. Its just that they are popular now
Fixed it for you famallamadinga
No need to thank me

>>59053442
HM5 770 & 7506 are all lateral moves, though I still think they're slight upgrades
msr7 is definitely an upgrade, but it's still slightly colored, definitely not as much as 770, but still slightly

>>59053528
Could be, ive been gone for like 2 years and all of a sudden they are shit. This was the best ting I could come up with.

>>59052251
Yes as these are not related.

>>59052251
There is never a reason to buy an amp or a dac over $100

>>59053329
That is shitty man, What about hd 598cs or hd 569

>>59053350
>>59053392
I have no idea what a V-shape is.

>>59053377
Okay.

>>59053490
>>59053622
So it's mostly personal preference?

Also, please help, I'm looking for IEMs as well.
>>59052448

I have hd598se and I only really use them with my laptop, my question is; if I pair the hd598se with a fiio E10k will it make a noticeable difference in sound quality?

>>59054054
V shape revers to frequency response. Look at it like on a graphic equalizer. Boosted lows, recessed mids and boosted highs. it forms a V or U shape. Its a shape that's generally considered "FUN" to listen to while a flat shape is more accurate and analytical.

On personal preference.
Of course it is, everything is. DT770's are generally considered more comfy and a better bang for the buck though.

On IEM's
I recently bought SoundMagic e10's. Could not be more happy. They are also v shaped.

>>59054187
Based on my experience with the HD558's, no they do not gain from an amp, Depending on the onboard DAC on your laptop you might gain a little, though I highly doubt its worth cost and the hassle.

>>59053753
Could you explain for a pleb?

I commonly see people say it's useless to buy an amp/dac unless you're using lossless.

>>59054236
Any chance of a program that let's me change my music files to what they would be if I had different headphones?

Or a video with a detailed comparison?
I've never really looked much into the audio aspect of anything.

>>59034679
>soundstage
>real
>>59035773
ER4SR
>>59036118
Dragon dildo of course.
>>59039737
I prefer HD600 but HE-400i has better low end. Not a fan of the HE-400i's midrange and treble.
>>59041489
HD800S is also sibilant but less than the vanilla HD800.
>>59051177
>>59051216
Stop shilling the HD600 so aggressively.

>tfw you bought open headphones and you don't have nigbass anymore

open headphones are a meme

>>59054444
Equalizer APO with Peace GUI

>>59054444
There are headphone sound demos on youtube. and on soundcloud. Though you only hear a slight difference when compared to other headphones that are demoed. They will not sound anything like they really do because of the headphones you are using yourself. The best thing you can do is go to a local store where you can demo them and have a listen.

Is there a difference between the xpt100 and hm5?

>>59054557
You can't ask a pleb to toss his EQ around and discover the difference between a V shaped and a flat pair of cans

>>59054493
You know what isn't a meme? Parametric equalizer.

>>59050299
pls respond

>>59054461
>>soundstage
>>real
What are you trying to say? When I was choosing headphones I compared HD598 with HD650 and on the first ones there was clearly bigger soundstage. Maybe I'm using wrong word? It felt like sound comes from farther distance than on HD650.

>>59054608
Well if he looks at a frequency response graph of his headphones and EQ's accordingly, he'll be fine.

>>59054723
HM5

>>59050299
Creative aurvana live

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Opinions on the HiFiMan HE400S? I'm looking for open backs in the $200-300 range and The Wirecutter's jizzing all over them on their lists.

>Budget
R$200 = 65USD
>Location
Brazil
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Past headphones
N/A

I just want it to have really strong bass as well.

>>59055447
Great sound and comfort, abysmal build quality and customer service.
Can't recommend them.

>>59055985
How do they compare with HD6*0 in sound quality?

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>>59034637
what are some good wireless headphones?

currently have pic related. theyre ok, they work just fine, but the battery life sucks and the fake leather on the ear cups is falling apart. would be willing to spend around $120.

i wouldnt really be using them to listen to music, just watch tv late at night without making too much noise.

>>59056024
It's roughly the same. HE400S are a bit weaker in the upper mids, but have better bass extension (with a proper seal) and don't have a bass hump that blends into the mids like HD600/650 do.

>Budget
250 usd
>Location
Usa
>Source
Phone and Fiio x1 II
>Type of headphone
Over
>Open or closed
Will be used on the train and plane so closed
>Comfort level
Very
>Sound signature
Neutral or bassy
>Past headphones
Some chink IEM´s

>>59055447
Get the HD600.

The HE400S is inferior in every possible way.

Not headphones, but what do you guys tend to recommend to regular people in the way of desktop dacs/amps?

>>59056567
30 dollar go for Asus Xonar dg(x)
70 dollar go for Fiio e10k
200 dollar go for shiit stack

>>59055447
garbage. don't buy hifiman.

>>59056057
Sony makes some good ones.

https://www.sony.com/electronics/headband-headphones/mdr-rf985rk

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new bread:
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>>59054187
>the hd598se with a fiio E10k will it make a noticeable difference in sound quality?

On my experience on HD598, an amp makes a huge difference, but any amp does.

I use a fulla2 but other options should be fine.

>>59056567
>But what do you guys tend to recommend to regular people in the way of desktop dacs/amps?

$100 dollar go for fulla2 (schiit usb amp+dac). That's schiit best value for the money device and all you'll ever need unless you go and buy some extremely power hungry cans which will probably cost thousands anyway and so it won't matter.