mATX and ATX users: you have 30 seconds to explain why you're

>>59011554
Im straight

>>59011554
I run SLI

>>59011554
Because matx is objectively the best you stupid faggot.

>>59011554
I need a case relative to my dick size.

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>>59011604

>>59011604
So what's wrong with >>59011554?

>>59011604
So you're using a raspberry pi?

>>59011554
I can't fit my mATX board into a mITX case.

>>59011554
water cooling and expandability

>>59011646
meme

>>59011650
It's not

>>59011690
It is tho

>>59011705

Why is expandability a meme?

>>59011725
SLI and sound cards and wifi are memes, so you're left with tv tuners.

>>59011554
i like having the option to add things that i didnt know i needed when I purchased it.

>>59011554
mini ITX only has one PCIe slot.

>>59011725
I was referencing water cooling
also see >>59011582

>>59011646
Water cooling is a possibility in many mITX cases.
You don't have to buy the absolute smallest one. Unless you are this guy >>59011604

>>59011554
Where's the RAM? CPU and the fucking heatsink?

Also, I don't live in arctic region so I need spaces.

>>59011857
>Where's the RAM? CPU and the fucking heatsink?
Obviously all behind the GPU

>>59011839
This right here.
The SG13, Core 500, Define Nano S, Obsidian 250D and Node 202 all can support an AIO.

For custom loops, go with the Enthoo Evolv Mini ITX.

>>59011554
There's nowhere to buy these

How much are they anyway?

SLI + a Capture Card.

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>>59011554
>paying $280 for a case with no expansion options

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>>59011604

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>>59011554
My desktop is also my home server.
As such I need room for a lot of hard drives.
Right now I have a full tower with room for 10 drives (6x 3.5", 4x 2.5"), and am looking into bigger cases such as the Thermaltake W100.
Not specifically for watercooling or SLI or what have you, but because it has 10 (ten) 3.5" trays.

Does anyone know of a case around the same price point that natively has room for more than 10 3.5" HDDs ?
I'm sure I could put more in a W100, but it seems like Thermaltake doesn't sell the HDD trays separately so I'd have to make my own.

>>59011554
>fucking cumbersome to build in
>you don't save money
>the parts need to be cherrypicked exclusively to work with your specific build
>heat dissipation hits you harder than you think

Because I don't feel like giving up everything to adhere to /g/'s form factor fad of the year, now entering its 3rd unwarranted one.

>>59011554
no am3+ mitx boards in australia

Why would I spend more money to get less case? Do you live in a faggy little studio apartment?

>>59012163
These same people will chastise those for buying riced out gear, yet mITX is just the same, without bringing PSUs into it.

>>59011554
I have enough place.

because i already struggle to fit in all the cables I run in an ATX case

I really don't want to deal with cramming them all in a shoebox.

>>59011554

Phew, good thing I'm an Ultra ATX user.

I'm still using my case and motherboard from when I got my first computer. It has an i5 3500k so there's been no reason to upgrade. I should have gotten a mATX case that has sound dampening, instead I fell for the "muh expandability" meme and got an NZXT switch 810 with an 850 watt psu.
At least I can overclock easily and have 4 HDDs.

mITX isn't great if you are into gaymen, because you can't overclock and get better performance from your parts. mATX is the sweet spot in my opinion because
>it isn't xbawx hueg
>cases can still have sound dampening and decent thermals
>you can overclock for better performance
>you have more drive space

>>59012247
>mITX isn't great if you are into gaymen, because you can't overclock and get better performance from your parts.

>>59011554
Because they weren't really a thing back in 2006

Because I have six hard drives.

>>59012268
nas

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>>59011554
Because many of the boards don't have 4 DIMMs, and I don't think any of them have 2 m.2 slots.

Micro-ATX is a good size. I'm done with full towers, but I like that slim small tower sort of size.

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>>59012268
Me too. Not an excuse.

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I built one in 2009.

GPU was unbearably loud and hot all the time because lolnoairflow, could only fit one hard drive in the case, offered me absolutely 0 advantages over an mATX or even full ATX build.
Wasnt even that much easier to bring to LAN parties.

>>59012262
>implying you can overclock for shit with an mITX mobo with shit power delivery, a shit low profile cooler, or a shit blower GPU cooler all crammed into a showbox with 1 120mm fan for airflow.

there are no ITX cases which are appreciably smaller than the uATX counterparts which can hold the same or better components generally at a lower cost

they're all fugly cubes that are basically just as big in terms of volume as a small uATX case
>m-muh small black cube
>look it's so much better than your ATX shit LOL
>yeah so what if I paid 40% more for the same performance and it's basically the same size
>UGH u just don't understand poorfag
kek

the case in the OP looks nice though

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>>59012336
Yeah, see, case in point, just googled OP's ultra tiny case:
>Overall Dimensions
>205 (H) x 112 (W) x 327 mm(D) / including feet and rear protrusions
total waste / not worth looking into

I'm hopeful for AMD's upcoming Raven Ridge APUs, but until then these systems are just pointless, just build a micro ATX system

>>59012282
>It wont work
>Spend even more money on something that does the job mITX can't.

>>59011554
Can't afford it right now, aren't MITX cases that actually function properly just a little under the mATX size? I see no gains and only losses, I don't need a smaller footprint but this would be great for a mini-parent computer

>>59012247
>first computer
>switch 810
My nigga

Same here, until it started breaking down on me.
I went into the Mini-ITX route after that, I am now obsessed with going smaller.
I'm planning on making an all AMD build with the NFC S4 Mini. Once I build that, I believe that I will not need anything smaller.

>>59012301
There are ITX boards with m.2 slots

>>59012316

That case is shit.

Aside from random design choices like all the ports on the right sides of the case and the sloppy build quality...

They give you two sets of black thumb screws that look almost identical. One set has metric threads the other imperial. I think the metric is for the drive brackets and the imperial are for the 3-sided top cover. It's pure lunacy.

>>59012405
2 of them? I said 2. I've seen them with 1.

Switching to mini ITX changed my life desu.

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Every mITX case has something that bothers me. The one that I like the most is the Nano S but pic related is basically preventing me from going ITX. Manta and Enthoo have the same thing. Just bugs the fuck outta me for some reason.

>>59012439
The direction of those fans triggers me.

>>59012417
Yes
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-Strix-Z270I-Gaming/

HDD bays.

>>59012145
http://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#J=10,20&X=0,32349

choose your own case

>>59012364
a nas can be made for $30...

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>>59011554
I prefer to try and fit a HTPC into a single U blade silently.

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>>59012336
>not wanting a kawaii pc

>>59012439
slightly more expensive solution is to buy an sfx psu and an sfx to atx psu adapter bracket. then there will be more than enough fan clearance.

>>59012458
Took me a while to see it. Holy shit that is cool. But only 2 DIMMs.
I worry about audio quality, too. :(

They can be expensive, too. Micro-ATX is just so much easier to get something decent for.

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>>59012479
Explain yourself.

>>59012495
NCase? so sexy

>>59012419
what case?

>>59011867
Disgusting, mATX all the way.

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>>59012512
Yes indeed. Have another.

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>>59012542

>>59012542
Comfy desk and room anon :)

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>>59011857
on the other side of the case u tard

flexible pcie extender

>>59012521
Silverstone SG13. It didn't really change my life, but I like it a lot because it fits everything I use while being compact enough to sit on top of my relatively small desk next to a 27" monitor.

>>59012542
>>59012553
case so nice but so expensive though
might go for the cougar qbx aka budget ncase m1

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>>59012554
Not mine, sadly. I have a bunch saved. Here's another one.

>>59012569
that's the case i've chosen for my upcoming first build! any tips/issues? what was the order you installed cables and parts and shit?

what are your specs?

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>>59012574
And another.

I like the fact that my PC is cooled down

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>>59012588
$$$$$

>>59011923
Define Nano S can support custom loops too.

In fact, it is more made for that, coming with mounting plates for pumps and reservoirs.

>>59011554
quad channel RAM

>>59011739
I use a PCI-E HD capture card

>>59012561
Ew, crammed.

>>59011739
How is expanding on Video card power and WIFI a meme?

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>>59012636
What does that cute lil amp do? Why not just plug your headphones right into your computer?

>>59011554
mITX is literally a meme pushed by tech vendors and faggy tech youtubers pushing product to an enthusiast market that has:

1) most likely no functional reason to upgrade their current hardware but

2) is stupid enough to re-buy basically the same shit in a different configuration for esthetic reasons, despite any variants of said product having zero esthetic value in the first place.

Mini ITX is a 16 year old format. It's only become popular in the past 3-4 years because they are running out of shit to sell you.

>>59011554
because I like my big heatsinks, low noise and even a little bit of expansion. if I do go sff, I'll probably go all the way and get a fd node 202.

>>59012636
I just don't like those cube-ish looking ones.

A little taller, and slimmer, and it could fit Micro-ATX and a vertical GPU instead of being so wide to fit the horizontal GPU.

>>59012674
This

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>>59012479
$30 I don't need to spend since I've bought a case that satisfies my needs, passively.

I'll eat my hat when an mITX can run passively.

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>>59012692
>passively
>multiple case fans
lmao

Wouldn't mind a small one for a web browser.
Seen some I'd like, but it's just as easy to get a laptop half for that.
What was that one smaller than a wallet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-bYSC6OT6s

>>59011554
Because I don't live in a 150sq ft chinese apartment with 3 other roommates.

Also
1. Watercooling support and surperior cooling in general. Important when running decently overvolted high end graphics and 2011-3 cpus
2. Dual socket CPU support - ATX is the minimum for LGA2011 and 2011-3 in this regard
3.Add-on cards beyond just a single graphics card including:
- NVMe ssds
- M.2 adapters
- wireless
- raid controllers
- sound cards (because I'd rather have a single larger tower than multiple external DACs and shit strewn across my desk)

4. Far superior variety of choices in chassis
5. Ability of many of those said chassis to showcase components and turn the build into art
6. Ability to use far higher quality power supplies, delivering super clean power for overclocking on the limits and general piece of mind with quality.

Also the desk foot print of many seriously tiny cases is not that much smaller. On the other hand vertical space is criminally underutilized in most living arrangements.

So that took way longer than 30s since there were so many reasons. Still small pcs are cool if they work for you. Pain in the ass to build though, I find some ATX builds hard enough already (my s340 and Core3000 being among those experiences) with cable routing.

>>59012692
>Passive
>Two noctua fans right on top of the heatsink
ur dum

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>>59012586
I built it a few months ago, so my memory of the exact order I did things in is a bit hard to recall. I remember I put the m.2 drive in the motherboard, and I seriously recommend an m.2 drive even if you just get a SATA one for cable management reasons. Then I installed the processor (i5 6500) and installed the motherboard into the case. Then I installed the CPU cooler (a silvestone water cooler, I forget the model name) and the RAM (I waited to install the ram because it was hard to install the water cooler because the RAM got in the way of the screw driver). Then I installed the GPU (gtx 1070) and the PSU. I think I just wired everything as I went. I recommend you get an SFX PSU with an SFX to ATX adapter just because it makes room for the CPU cooler and enables more air flow. My PSU came with one.

>>59012699
"Literally RDDT": The Battlestation: Faggot Edition

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>>59012699
Anybody into watercooling?

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>>59012727

>>59012674
>It's only become popular in the past 3-4 years because they are running out of shit to sell you.
OR it's because only recently has most computer hardware started to run cool enough/be power efficient enough that you can fit it into a smaller case. If mini ITX isn't for you, that's fine, nobody is forcing it on you.

>>59012727
I appreciate that they're not feeding hot air off the CPU directly to the GPU even in such a small case.

>>59012722
Thanks!

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>>59012739

>>59012659
lel
the macbook is just a giant clock

>>59011923
>node 202
No it can't, you have to cut the bracket to fit one and will take half of the space of the gpu placement so you will only be able to use small gpus.
Yet, 202 have horrible temps.

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>>59012754

>>59012741
Except, you know, the initial post of this thread and all the illogical responses to 'it's too small? Buy another case, retard'.

I'd love to move my pc from a node202 into one of those s4 mini's

gotta love the small pc meme

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>>59012745
Here's my guts btw. Cable management isn't the easiest, but who cares, you're never going to see much of the inside once it's done.

You cans see why an SFX PSU is better, my water cooler wouldn't fit with a regular ATX PSU.

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>>59012721
They run, but I don't need them. 61c max load temps after 4 hours of orthos. Keep crying, faggots.

>>59012800
woah what is up with the d-pad on that xbox controller? is this a custom thing"

>>59011554
They're expensive and have limited options where matx doesn't

>>59012859
It's the "Elite" controller for the Xbox One.

>>59012859
It's an Xbox Elite Controller

>>59012865
Very interesting and also aesthetically pleasing. How'd the d-pad?

>>59012886
IDK, I don't own one. I've heard only great things about it though, I'm just not sure it's worth $150.

>>59012786
sfx AND modular?

airflow must be good

>>59012897
>'m just not sure it's worth $150
holy fuck, $150 for a single controller?

>>59011554
Because they are inferior in
>expansion
>space
>airflow
compared to a $30 case from Amazon

>>59012907
It's this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008VQ2Y4K/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And yes, I think airflow is pretty good since I'm using a blower style GPU too. Thermal throttling has never been an issue for me, so at the very least air flow isn't prohibitively bad.

>>59012918
When your choices for periphery customization and/or expressions are so limited, $150 probably doesn't seem like much, despite it being half of the console. People pay even more for turtlebeach tripe, it's astounding.

>>59012659
looking at this makes my neck hurt

>>59012938
Their target audience is people who need 1-2 drives, don't need much space for expansion, and airflow is a meme unless you're buying like the hottest components on the market. My gtx 1070 performs just as well as it does when review sites benchmark them in their huge testing rigs.

Sure, if you need a lot of drives/upgrade components frequently/want to water cool both the CPU and GPU/etc then ITX isn't for you, but juding by guts threads on here, a lot of people could get by with ITX.

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>>59011554
But I do, because I like to sit it on my desk, and I can fit my whole setup in a box, so it only takes one trip from the car when I go to my mates house. Also pic related

>>59012945
450w with a 1070? not worried at all?

>>59013078
Not in the slightest. I forgot the exact result, but I put all my components into PCPart picker and it came in well below 450w.

>>59013107
Your PSU's highest efficiency range is generally around half its max rated load.

Unless it's a small form factor PSU where it's hard to get a high wattage, it's better to go for double almost double your draw.

that case you are using as an example isnt widely available yet

>>59013138
I never heard that when I was GPU shopping. iirc the advice I heard from somewhere was that your PSU should be at least 20% above what your system draws on average to be able to handle spikes in power draw.

What's the benefit of being the maximum efficiency range? Just drawing less power from the wall?

>>59011554
4x3,5" HDD, 2x5,25" ODD and 2xPCI-e cards (not graphic, for legacy printers) don't even fit in those things.

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>mfw mini itx board in a full tower

>>59013182
A good PSU will have a real max power load that's at least 20% higher than its rating, so not really. Just buy a good brand. I'm talking about efficiency, though.

It's more that a decent 80plus 800watt PSU is likely going to be like 80% efficient at 80watts, 88% at 160watts, 93% at 400 watts, 88% at 800 watts.

So if your peak load is like 400watts, well basically any 800 watt PSU is going to be most efficient at that amount, whatever its efficiency is. Though the worst efficiency (when you're idling) is around 10% and less.

Even if you don't care about using less electricity than your system needs, having your highest efficiency point at peak load means your PSU fan might not need to turn on at all because it's the inefficiency loss that creates heat that the fan would need to draw out.

S P A C E

>>59012495
>literally retarded cpu cooler orientation
>has tons of ventillation at the top
>elects to mount it towards the back, where there is an extremely small openning, respectively

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>>59011554

but I am,
Nano S is comfy as fuck.

>>59012760
>No it can't.
Yes, it can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RBi7wObZM4

>>59013377
That case is *barely* smaller than mATX cases. It's good for water cooling and cable management though.

>>59012659
Do you use the MBP for anything else besides using it as a clock?

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>>59011554
Dancase is sexy as fuck. But I'm happy with my Ncase.

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>>59012301
Those are all the same size though anon

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>>59013336
Actually the vents at the back are less restrictive than the holes on the top, and the orientation works better with the case airflow. If the cooler is oriented vertically, the intake fan sits pretty close to the top of the GPU.

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>>59013493
Can't they both be sexy as fuck?

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>>59013525
whys your ports all fucking crooked

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>>59012495
>>59012542

How the fuck do I into cable management in this thing, just got mine today and all the cables/240mm rad are literally pushing my gpu down.

Using sf600 for psu

>>59013579
No clue, not my build. Back ports don't seem to line up properly with the IO shield a lot of the time though.

>>59012399
wew nfc s4 mini talk on /g/? seriously underrated case maker. same with pico psus. just no one is aware of them and how much smaller you can make systems than these huge ass itx builds people keep posting.

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>>59013619
Good cable management takes work. If you wanted an easy time of it, there are cases like the Corsair Air 240 that allocate a third of the case as a space to stuff your cables so you don't have to deal with it.

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>>59013672
Idk, I tried to do it well, but couldn't figure out where to put the excess. For example in that picture the cables look like they're the exact size they need to be.

>>59013641
I honestly have no idea how my future build is going to work. I may not go with the s4 mini due to space limitations.

>>59013701
Yeah, custom cables help a lot.

Your GPU sag is pretty typical btw, and the cables pushing down on it probably aren't the primary cause.

>>59012530
I'd love to see you toss an mATX machine in a small backpack.

>>59013745

It didn't sag when it was in an atx case, but on the same mobo. Was using the atx case as a gateway until my ncase got here. I can definetly "feel" the stress of the cables under the rad pushing it down. Ill probably take it apart tomorrow and see what else I can do.

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Not having at least one available PCIe slot would bother me
Also ITX cases aren't $25 like this was

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>>59013377
I have that case but in black. I love it but I hate my CPU cooler.
I'll probably buy an AIO next month so long as I am not being transferred out of this area.

Will probably replace my PSU with a modular one at a later date as well, but it isn't that big a deal because everything is mostly out of the way anyway.

I know people say that it is too big for an mITX but it's not just about size (volume). I don't see any need to expand this. I could get two 16GB DIMMs instead if I want a RAM upgrade. The two SATA2.0 ports will be sufficient for larger storage if I want to expand that (I have a NAS though) so the mITX form factor is fine for me. This case is a nice height and roomy for decent air flow, so I have no complaints.

>>59013777
Why would I bring mITX everyday if there's a laptop already?


eATX/ATX/mATX all goes onto my desk alone.
Laptop for portability.

>>59013916
Travel.
Also, what laptop is good while also powerful? I don't really keep up on the laptop front, since I suck at picking one.

>>59013916
Why would I bring a laptop when I have an extremely tiny desktop?

>>59013936
Egpu

>>59013937
>Where's my monitor?

Oh shit, I left it.

>>59013949
Is that + laptop smaller than a very small mini itx computer?
And isn't that limited on performance?
And doesn't that defeat the purpose of a laptop?

>>59011554
i don't own one

>>59011554

I need more than one PCIe expansion slot

>>59013957
https://youtu.be/ft9CT8t_n3o
>2017
>not building your monitor into your PC case

>>59013974
Yes it is, laptops take up basically no volume and a GPU will be smaller than a desktop with a GPU
Sure it's stationary if you want to use the GPU but you don't always have to use the GPU and its still usable on-the-go unlike a desktop
I mean I'm all for a desktop build over a laptop but if you need on-the-go computing you can't use a desktop

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it isn't really an itx form factor but it was $50 cheaper than an ncase.

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>>59013995
>sli
>owning a motherboard without decent audio

>>59013957
I don't need a monitor.

>>59014065
>PCie slots are only good for GPUs and sound cards

>>59011554
I have an ITX build in core v1 attached to the TV in my bedroom, but this shit is running so hot. Fucking 51w i3 is 75C in games (arctic freezer 7 rev 2). I'm replacing it with normal watercooled ATX build in couple of months.

>>59014113
ok, whats your excuse then?

>>59014227
Excuse for PCIe slots? RAID controller, TV tuner, NIC, SSD, USB controller, etc.

seems like a pain in the ass

>>59014243
90% of us don't need any of that shit. If you actually use it then fine, but it doesn't justify all of the wasted space you see in every /guts/ thread.

Enjoy upgrading your mITX "PC" to have USB C

>>59014284
Who ever said most people do? OP asked why each individual posting isn't using mini ITX. If you're fine with one PCIe slot, that's all fine and dandy. Not everyone is though.

>>59014290
what exactly would I need this for? What dongle device would I need that the back/front io don't already provide or the Gpu?

>>59014290
But mine already has a USB C port.

>>59014290
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=mini+ITX+motherboard&ignorear=0&N=100007627%20600556519%20600567585%20601290508&isNodeId=1

>>59014290
I have no USB-C devices yet and when I do get some I will probably have upgraded my computer to a new motherboard with USB-C ports.

>>59014304
I don't give a fuck about you

>>59014305
Good for you

>>59014359
Buy a Macbook.

>>59014388
>suggesting a laptop as an alternative to a desktop
How fucking dumb are you?

>>59011554
No good mITX X99 boards on the market.
I'm not buying ASSrock.

>>59014402
Have you ever had a Macbook?

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Is there any itx case that have 2 or more 3.5 hdd bays than can be wall mounted like pic related

>>59014428
How is that even remotely relevant? We're discussing desktops.

>>59014290
I already have one USB-C in my ITX board, but I don't see any uses for it. By the time it becomes mainstream (IF it becomes mainstream, with all of its dumb problems), I would probably already upgrade to a different board.
Also, don't USB 3.0 to USB-C(gen1) hubs exist?

>>59014402
>suggesting mITX as an alternative to a desktop
How fucking dumb are you?

>>59014436
I never did such a thing. Regardless, mITX builds are desktops.

>>59014304
The only reason I can think of is that you're autistic about cables and want as few as possible in your life. It's kind of convenient to only need a type c to type c for charging and connecting all of your devices.

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>>59011554
Why would i want a hotter, louder, slower, less upgradeable computer?

>>59014454
marketing

>>59014419
Assrock works just fine. Hell, all modern motherboards work just fine, especially compared to the chaos of the 486-PII era and the capacitor plague of the early 00s.

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moved in from the M1

>>59014454
smol+qt

>>59014431

Not sure what you mean exactly by wall mounting. Do you mean like externally, or on like one of the side panels? Either way, the Ncase has a bracket you can mount to the side and 2 3.5" drives on it. It would limit you to a 120mm rad rather than 240mm if that matters to you.

>>59014482
Does the restricted cooler height limit/stop you from overclocking?

>>59014480
There is probably a good reason more premium brands don't do them.
Also it doesn't even support quad channel RAM.

I like big cases.

>>59014436
>mITX cant be used as a desktop
What am I using then?

>>59014505
i'm not OCing, but it would, yes.
the sole goal of the case is to fit a gaming pc in the smallest possible package. you need to go larger to overclock.

>>59011554
Atx is cheaper

>>59014568
if you go for a mass-produced case the cost difference is negligible

>>59011554
Mainly expansion slots, and not having to replace my motherboard every time I want more I/O. How many mITX motherboards have Infiniband or 2x 10GbE that aren't server boards? I'm not even going to get into having multiple videocards, before autists start screaming at me.

I can't wait until the SFF meme dies, along with the RGB meme, and the form over function motherboard VRM heatsink meme. And add the all-in-one water cooler fad to the pile as well.

>>59014616
discarded

>>59014510
I don't think you can physically fit 4 DIMM slots on a mITX socket2011 board.
Also, I'd imagine getting 150W of heat out of a mITX case isn't going to be easy.

>There is probably a good reason more premium brands don't do them
Assrock just specializes in ITX boards. They have like 4 times more models than everyone else.

>>59014616
SLI I can sort of understand, but why the fuck would you need 2x10GbE in a home computer?

>>59011554
I don't need to explain anything to you.

>>59014616
>SFF meme
It's only a meme if you get the weirdly bigger cases. I do agree that there are problems with SFF cases, as all case types do have, but the really small cases do really show their portability (The NFC S4 Mini and the Logic Supply MC600 are smaller than an Xbox One). Definitely not a meme.
>RGB meme
I do agree. With the K70/K95 RGB, it has gone too far
> form over function motherboard VRM heatsink meme
You will be surprised how many motherboards are out there that just remove the vrm heatsinks just for cost reduction. It's ridiculous.
>all-in-one water cooler meme
>not calling all water cooling a meme
I mean, sure, water cooling has problems for which it can be considered a meme, but just all-in-one water coolers? How are custom loops justifiable, but all-in-ones aren't?

>>59011554
Because it's too fucking small, fuck off.

>>59011628
He said "C A S E" Retard not board
fucking kys you kissless virgin faggot

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>>59014791

>>59014807
Excuse me you've gotta rgb the shit out of it if it's gonna be clear

>>59013377
How did you paint it? Aren't those cases riveted together and stuff?

>>59014758
Are VRM heatsinks really needed on non high end boards? I don't remember them being a thing in mid-2000s and those stupidly hot P4s and Athlon 64X2s worked just fine.

>>59011554

Aesthetics, ram, raid. overclocking requires ample air circulation when getting highjavascript:; up there

>>59011554
1. I have space on my desk
2. I'm not a gay ricer faggot
3. I'm not a memer faggot
4. I have space for my upgrades
5. I'm not a dumb /v/ kid who cares more about aesthetics than function

>>59014832
I recommended a friend a motherboard with no VRM heatsinks once. I don't remember the exact board, but it was a cheap MSI AM3+ motherboard. It was terrible. He had always had at least above 70C. His airflow was good so it didn't make sense to me until I looked the problem up. After that, I always check if motherboards have VRM heatsinks.

The heat of the CPU has nothing to do with it. Those heatsinks are to pull the heat out of the VRMs that's generated from stepping 12V down to something a little less suicidal for your CPU.

>>59014858
>He had always had at least above 70C

That doesn't seem like a problem considering that VRM MOSFETs are typically rated up to 120C or more.

>>59014874
meant for
>>59014832

>>59014874
The heat that VRM has to dissipate is roughly proportional to the power consumption of the CPU it powers.

>>59014874
Why don't VRMs take current from the 3.3 V rail instead of the 12 V rail if it's gonna be stepped down to >2 V anyway?

Because my system just plain will not fit in one. You can't stick two graphics cards, one sound card, four sticks of RAM, two SSDs, four HDDs, and 5x120mm worth of radiators in an ITX system.

>>59014831
Rivets are trivial to drill out and replace once you're done with mods.

>>59014903
PSUs provide a lot more amps on the 12v rail(s)

>>59014841

You can do all of that in a matx but not an itx

>>59014890
There's more that goes into CPU temperature than just power draw though. A hot CPU isn't necessarily a power hog. Just look at Sandy/Ivy Bridge. Ivy was the die shrink using less power, but a cheapass implementation meant they ran hotter.

>>59013377
>ITX
>sized like the smallest ATX case

Might as well go ATX. My SG03 is even smaller than that.

>>59014932
The point is that those P4s and Athlons *were* power hogs, more so than modern ones, and almost no boards had heatsinks on VRMs. So either the VRM efficiency went to shit in the last decade, or heatsinks on S1150/51 boards are mostly superficial.

Because I have no idea what any of the things you just said mean and I don't care.

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I want to, but only thing holding me back is having to buy an sfx psu

>>59014967
The point of the Nano S is water cooling. There's isn't nearly as much space for the pump/reservoir/etc in mATX cases of similar size because the motherboard takes up all the space.

But yeah, since that guy wasn't water cooling the Nano S is pointless, he should have gone for a smaller ITX case or an mATX case with more expandibility.

>>59014988
The Corsairs are pretty solid units.

>>59014903
A high-end CPU can eat up to 150W, to get this power from the 3.3V rail you'll need (150/3.3)=45 A.
Your typical PSU uses 16AWG or 18AWG wires, which are only capable of carrying 5-7A each without heating up, so you'll need like 10 pairs of wires in parallel to power the CPU alone. You could use thicker wires, of course, but no one likes handling massive rigid cables.

By using the 12V rail, you decrease the current to (150/12) = 13 A and you can get away with 2-4 pairs of wires, which is what a standard ATX12V plug is.

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>>59015001

>implying you need all that empty space to custom loop

Now that meme needs to die

>>59013217

THICCC

>>59015098
You don't need the space to install a custom loop, but you do need it to install one that looks good, or one that isn't a massive pain in the ass to service.

>>59011554

Because I buy future hardware based on whether or not I want it, not based on whether or not it'll fit in my micromeme case.

>>59012322
I actually like this. Minimal and clean.

>>59013044

>Onee-chan
>Too big

>>59013377
Got a speccy of this PC?
What mobo you running? I have had this case sat down for a while and wouldn't mind putting it to good use.

>>59014758
>With the K70/K95 RGB, it has gone too far

How? There were a boatload of RGB keyboards before them with the exact same features.

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>>59011604

LOL

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So fkin ready for Ryzen and Vega to replace my 2009 Phenom II. Fell in love with this case, it's like an improved version of the Inwin glass case but even smaller, no bullshit like an optical drive bay either.

>>59015269
except it's not glass

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>>59015269
t. europoor or chink that can't afford tempered glass

>>59015298
God fucking damnit you're right. Why the fuck are the two larger versions glass and not this one?

I'll have to think about this.

>>59011554

still running a 2500k and don't have a reason to upgrade.

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>>59012480
>silently.

>>59015413
Making it quite is not the hard part, undervolt most fans and they will run nice and quite. The hard part will be getting something that can run DIAZ level encodes without issues while still fitting within the confines of a single U.

I have no space limitations so why would I create them with a cramped form factor?

It's more expensive. (Currently using M-ATX)

>>59014065

sli is dumb as fuck.

I have a gpu, a sound card and a 10gbit nic installed

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>>59015269

>>59015529
Those Silverstone slim fans makes grinding noises and the machine must be loud as fuck from that shitty ddc pump.

>>59011554
I wanted to buy mini itx for coolmaster 130 elite but that ended up increasing in overall expenses by 100 dollars. I can get cheper case and better micro atx for lower price.
t.3d world

>>59011554
the only excuse that i have is that i bought an ASUS desktop years ago, and i am still squeezing the bastard hard

it only accepts low profile cards, so i am pretty much cucked in that regard

at first i thought about moving the parts to a new chasis, but then i thought that maybe i should build a new one

thatpic is sexy as fuck

Any of the ones that could fit a full sized GPU were either ugly or expensive

Also, I had an ATX PSU I didn't want to spend $80 on a new one

Fuck, I just realised how much easier shit would be if my PC was tiny and cute like that.
>>59011604
Inversely proportional, don't you mean?


So what's the deal with op's pic? I take it
>Buy case
>Buy Mobo to suit
>PSU included
Done?

>>59015630
>PSU included
Almost never

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>>59012510
This plus a $10 Pi zero, plus whatever storage you want.

Can't afford it.

>>59011554
because it is objectively worse than atx in every way besides >muh size to shove it up my ass

>>59015630
PSU isn't included with the DAN A4, but it takes standard SFX.

>>59015647
All these pics
>>59013567
>>59013558
>>59013546
>>59013525
make it look like the PSU is routed, so I presume custom.

Anyway, this thread's convinced me. I don't need a case as big as mine just for 3.5"s I never use anymore anyway.
Want a case that can hold my RX 480, has good circulation, and a handle/something to use as a handle(>>59015269)/can just be underarmed like >>59014482?

>>59015721
So the cases just have a cable with a male plug connected to the plug on the back?

>>59015748
>>59015760
Both the DAN A4 and NCASE M1 have the PSU mounted at the front, so they need an extension cable to route the power from the back of the case. Both come with the cable, but not a PSU.

>>59015799
Good by me, wouldn't want to get chinked on the PSU. Glad to hear sizing is standard now, too.

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>>59015819
SFX has been a standard since Intel developed it in the 90s, though it's only been in the last 5-6 years that higher wattage units that include PCIe power connectors have been produced.

>>59015863
CUTE

>>59015863
desu your pic related is the first decent sfx unit on the market

>>59011554
>why you're not using a mITX pc
I don't need one, plenty of space under my desk

>>59012727
>>59012739
I admire the amount of planning that must have gone into just assembling these.

>>59011739
Or cards to allow more drives

Or cards to contol switches on other machines

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>>59016143

>>59016227
"These" as in these tiny ass loops in general, not just that one. But here's your (You)

>>59016227
Right one. Left one doesn't have lights.

>>59011554

I'm renting this house and I'd rather not get sued for burning it down.

>>59012336
>there are no ITX cases which are appreciably smaller than the uATX counterparts which can hold the same or better components generally at a lower cost

Sure thing buddy
Cougar QBX
Lian Li Q10
nCase M1 (expensive)

Those from the top of my head

>>59014988
Silverstone SG13

11 liters, 50 bucks, supports ATX PSUs

thermals

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>>59015613
is this case ugly

>>59016661
don't forget silverstone sg13, cm elite 130

>>59012195

Not really, ITX can be functional.

But not if you're cramming in stupid shit like the Dan A4 case.

With the move to smaller, more power efficient processors, ITX is more relevant than ever.

Personal note: A Ryzen 1700 and a Nano Vega will be going in my next SFF workstation.

>>59012718
>4. Far superior variety of choices in chassis
>5. Ability of many of those said chassis to showcase components and turn the build into art
>6. Ability to use far higher quality power supplies, delivering super clean power for overclocking on the limits and general piece of mind with quality.

>muh games
>muh case window!!

Get >>>/out/ manchild

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Maybe if Ryzen isn't shit I'll build one in these.

>>59013217

Brother!

Because MITX is too small for my personal taste, plus limited choice of motherboards. No AM4 ones announced yet.

>>59011554

More room which I've actually used for additional drives and add-in cards, still better airflow than most mITX cases I've seen, I actually use a 5.25" bay unit still... Plenty of reasons. mITX is a tradeoff you make, you give up things to benefit from the low volume it takes up. It's not an inherently good thing.

>>59016884
>Cube
Yes it's ugly
Silverstone ML series or bust

>>59016884
>no dust filters
into the trash it goes

>>59012439
I have the Silverstone SG13 and I like it quite a bit. The PSU floats over the motherboard and the GPU is on the far left side of the case right next to the side ventilation holes. Its a bit of a pain to work in due to the overall form factor being so small but I feel like that would be the case for any super compact case. Probably worth noting, I fit a GTX 1080 FTW and a full size non-modular PSU in there. A modular SFX power supply would have made it significantly easier.

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Anyone getting the Sentry when the first run ships in April? I've never built a mITX machine before, but it seems cool to have a (nearly) full power computer I can fit into a backpack.

>>59017984
Hey, this looks pretty gr-
>tiny rubber dome keyboard
>wireless meme peripherals
>console computer
>tringualar amp
>Desk provides no space for your legs

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>>59018018
That's just a shot they have on their crowdfunding page to gives a good idea of the size. I think the only smaller case is NFC's S4 Mini, but you have to make some compromises to fit what you want in it.

>>59018018
Also I haven't tried, but I imagine you can't easily write on a mousepad.

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I was wondering, at this point are there any performance sacrifices you would have to make with a small form factor build like this?

Basically, I assume that you could fit all the regular components into a build like this that would normally go into atx.

Isn't heat a problem though? Aren't you increasing the likeliness of earlier failure rate by jamming all those components that close together.

I understand that you sacrifice modularity but what else is there to consider when you're making a small watercooled build that is SSD and single card?

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>>59011604

>>59018274
In the year of our President 2017 there's really no reason not to build mini-itx. As long as you only need a single expansion slot, there's a case you like, and you buy quality fans and coolers, you really don't have to make an compromises.

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>>59018310

>>59011554
Needed cheapest parts I could get, micro atx was the cheapest and the case was £10, PC is still vr capable

>>59012301
IIRC some of them have M.2 slots on the back

>>59018274
>Basically, I assume that you could fit all the regular components into a build like this that would normally go into atx
Depends. That specific case, the FT03-Mini, requires an SFX power supply, and CPU cooler height is pretty limited compared to a typical mid tower ATX case. Obviously it also lacks drive bays and limits you to a single expansion card.

>Isn't heat a problem though? Aren't you increasing the likeliness of earlier failure rate by jamming all those components that close together
Again, it depends. If the case has well-designed system airflow then heat won't be an issue. But it does get harder to design good airflow the smaller the case is, so you do have to be somewhat careful. The FT03-Mini, for instance, lacks ventilation for the GPU, so it will tend to run hotter than in a case with better airflow.

That said, the importance of low temperatures is blown out of proportion by people, and in most cases the hardware will be obsolete before it fails due to heat.

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>>59018351
>>59018473
this is really nice to know. Thank you for the input

SLI is in my opinion not worth it unless you're using it for specialized computing compared to buying a single good card.

You can just offload all your heavy storage needs to a server these days and SSDs are becoming more and more affordable

I also just like the idea of having a small box with neatly packed internals

>>59011554
I'm not short of physical space near my desk, so I feel no reason to go out of my way to conserve it. I don't feel I get any value out of the size reduction in going from ATX to ITX.

>>59011554
>he's fine being cucked with 2 DIMM slots

I am. I regret it.

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>>59018576
>needing more than 2 dimms

>>59018732
>what is triple, quad, and hexa-channel memory

>>59018759
Something hardly anyone needs.

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>>59018759
>needing more than 2 dimms

>>59018772
So you admit that there are people who need it.

>>59018777
You're just dumb.

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>>59018815
>needing more than 2 dimms

>>59018831
>shitposting

>>59015001

t. ATX miditower owner who has a graphics card and nothing else in the PCI-E slots

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>>59018854
>feeling as if you need more than two dimm slots

>>59018815
Sure, some people will be doing specific kinds of workloads that will benefit. But the vast majority of people won't be doing anything where they'll notice the difference.

>>59018274
The motherboards are very expensive. Like a $90 micro ATX Mobo would be like $160 for mini itx

This might be fixed with AM4 though. I'd like to see a mini itx AMD Mobo that allows overclocking for $120. At that point it'd definitely be worth it

For me another issue is noise. The only noise dampening itx case is the fractal and that's the gay cube shape, so not worth it for the more expensive components

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>>59011554
don't have enough money

>>59018601
why?

>>59019197
an ITX build only costs like 30 dollars more than a regular mATX/ATX build

like 3 hours of work

>>59019224
Wrong
Costs $50 more minimum for the exact same performance

>>59019224
I don't have ITX because I don't think the smaller size is worth paying $30 extra dollars for, or doing any extra work on research/assembly.

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>>59019177
>For me another issue is noise. The only noise dampening itx case is the fractal and that's the gay cube shape, so not worth it for the more expensive components
stupid question but are the smaller form factors noisier?

>>59019233
>>59019322
here's an atx and itx build with only 3 dollars difference between them. exact same parts lol:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Prudencii/saved/FhMmGX
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Prudencii/saved/R99ycf

Raid10

>>59019330
usually yes. less leeway for airflow+smaller/less fans=louder machine

>>59019355
So? Even if there's no extra work to be done, and no extra cost, the fact that its smaller isn't worth anything to me. Why should I care about my computer being smaller? An ATX system easily fits under my desk and causes me no difficulties. What benefits does ITX's small size get me?

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>>59019368
I assumed that as well but wanted to verify. Thanks

>>59019330
>>59019387
all the GPUs in these are smaller than the standard size, aren't they?

>>59019330
Smaller fans = faster rotation to push the same amount of air = more noise

Smaller fans = higher pitched noise

>>59019404

No my 1080 ftw fits inside the same case

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>>59019601
without any bullshit acrobatics? Looks like a tight fit

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>>59014857

Where on the doll did the mini itx form factor touch you?

>>59013518
are you blind?

look at the distance between the dvd drive and I/O

>>59011554
mITX is such a faggy hobby. I bet you idiots don't even use your mITX PCs once you've assembled them. You just sit there and look at how kawaii they are and post pictures of them to /bst/.

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>>59011554
I actually wanted to previously build a mini-ITX system once the Fractal Design Define Nano S was released.
However the air choke issue with GPUs, especially small ones, put me off it.

Could be resolved by purchasing a SF600, but I'm a tight cunt and would prefer to use my current PSU. Which is the EVGA GS 550W.