/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Friendly reminder that if you choose your distro based on politics then you have autism

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First for Freedom.

>>58933094
>mfw there are freetards in this very thread who are posting using google botnet captcha on a closed source proprietary imageboard software

>>58933094
first for Source Mage᠎

>>58933118
nice one hehe

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For the glory of Source Mage!

INSTALL GENTOO

>>58933116
>Value your freedom or you will lose it, teaches history. 'Don't bother us with politics', respond those who don't want to learn."
>-- Richard Stallman

>>58933169
You don't exactly make yourself look less autistic when you quote Stallman

>>58933182
winshit troll begone

>>58933192
>You need to be a Stallman evangelist to use Linux

Yeah nah

>>58933211
GNU/Linux*

>>58933211
GNU/Linux*

>>58933211
GNU/Linux*

>>58933222
>>58933231
>>58933249
GNU+Linux*

hi, I'm using python for scientific computing (numpy, scipy, ipython, matplotlib)
I like working with a terminal and an editor
will the choice of linux distro affect this at all?
I'm thinking about going with ubuntu because I have used it before, but I am curious with there are any other more suited?

>>58933211
GNU/Linux*

>>58933268
Just get any distro (except Arch, python is fucked up there).

>>58933268
>will the choice of linux distro affect this at all?
no unless is a really autistic distro

just go for ubuntu

>>58933116
by politics you mean social statements or update/package-managing/maintenance politics?

>>58933268
The distro doesn't matter for developing Python since it works the same on all distros. Choose what you want.

>>58933304
Both, but at least the latter ones can be tied to valid reasons such as performance

>>58933294
>ubuntu
nice spyware

>>58933332
is good enough for noobs

Is XFS good for something or is just a meme?

>>58933361
couldn't find an entry for xfs on knowyourmeme, so I guess it's not a meme

Pro tip for the newfriends: we use "GNU/Linux" ironically. Never say it IRL, you autist

>>58933411
top meme

Let's discuss systemd.

>>58933436
no

>>58933411
no

>>58933436
no

>>58933411
>>58933436
no

>>58933436
it's shit

>>58933476
why

>>58933436
I love it

>>58933486
because muh unix way

>>58933486
it's red hat crap

>>58933486
because I was told so on /g/

>>58933502
what wrong with redhat?

Hey guys, I'm really stuck and not sure where to go from here. I'm running Arch and did my first -Syu, but it seems something to do with Readline doesn't work and when trying to use pacman I got an error that it can't find libreadline.so.6. I reboot, but it won't boot into my display manager and when I try to log in through tty it gives me the same error (that it can't find Readline) and asks me to log in again. Can I get some advice about how to get Readline on my computer?

>>58933516
it's shit

>>58933516
it's the nsa

>>58933516
no

>>58933528
>I'm running Arch
>trying to use pacman
>got an error
That's normal.

>>58933528
install gentoo

>>58933528
Arch is for advanced users only.

>>58933528
install Source Mage

>>58933528
install smeagol

>>58933528
you somehow borked your system and need to reinstall, hope you had /home on a separate partition

>>58933547
>>58933553
please, will I have to do it from a USB drive? I'm not sure how to get Readline from it to my hard drive without logging in

>>58933361
It is good for storage and media,large files.
The filesystem does not allow for shrinking or expanding partitions though

>>58933582
you either reinstall or learn how to chroot to perform maintenance, since you're new reinstall is the easiest option, but learning is never wasted

>>58933332
Only if you use unity and then >>58933345

is sourcemage better than gentoo?

>>58933629
Depends on your level of autism.

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>>58933627

kek

good enough for noobs

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>>58933629
You want a more minimal and more customizable distro which also happens to be even more bleeding edge? If so, yes.

>>58933678
>sourcemage
How is that more bleeding edge?

>>58933678
>(S)ource(M)age(G)NU/(L)inux
nice

>>58933755
Packages come untouched from source, and if you enable the testing "grimoire" you can install stuff like linux kernel 4.9.

>>58933601
I booted from a live USB, mounted my hard drive's partition onto /mnt and tried to chroot /mnt from the usb. When I do this I get the libreadline.so.6 error again. Is there a way to just get this file and put it into my lib folder from the live USB?

>>58933678
no devs, ancient packages

>>58933802
yes devs, memes

So I've seen Slackware recommended here every now and then, and I've read up on what it is and does and I like the philosophy behind it (BSD like,modular, user control, also no systemd). I've only ever used Windows and I've just about had it with Widows 10 cancer. I got some questions that I would appreciate being answered regarding it:

I don't mind reading an hour or two to install and configure, but after that is it ready to use?
I want to put this on my T430 MemePad, will it just werk or am I going to be fucking around with drivers and the like?
I would like to have an nice, intuitive UI that is customizable, Slack have that or is that something I can install/configure?
The big question, how easy is Slack for a first time user? Will I get my ass kicked? I don't mind learning but it its a convoluted mess I don't know if I want to bother.

Thanks for the help!

>>58933547
yes it is

>>58933528
the main problem with arch is not that it uses systemd and not that it merges everything into /usr/bin and not that it's developers are austistic fucktards but that very often they push a bleeding edge package update and forget to update some critical part of the dependency chain and now the expected versions don't match the versions you have installed, and because it's pacman you can't easily rollback to your previous version.
you can do slocate libreadline and it will find any files with libreadline in the name, you probably have libreadline.so.5 or something
or maybe you don't have readline installed which would be big league retarded
just install a normal OS

>>58933861
Slackware is probably a bit too advanced and not as ready to use, may scare first time users. Try either Devuan or Manjaro.

>>58933629
no

>>58933861
try a slack based distro first, give salix a go

>>58933906
>>58933926

Thank you.

>>58933528
I renamed libreadline.so.7 to libreadline.so.6 and it works now so whatever

>>58933906
Devuan is rock solid and easy for noobs

>>58933861
Slackware was my first distro when I was 13 and it was simple enough for me to log into, start KDE, and use that for everything except games. I didn't become 100% comfortable and able to solve complex problems on my own until I was 21 or 22 or so, but I had not been using Slackware (or any Linux) exclusively until 19.

>but after that is it ready to use?
yes and no
if you want proprietary nvidia drivers, you have to install those manually or use a SlackBuild
if you want graphical login, you have to change one line in your inittab
if you want ntp (correctly sets your clock from time servers) enabled properly, you need to uncomment a few lines in /etc/ntp.conf
most things that "don't work" OOTB are fixed in that manner
>I want to put this on my T430 MemePad, will it just werk or am I going to be fucking around with drivers and the like?
Slackware ships with a huge vanilla kernel by default so it contains pretty much every non-restricted driver available
Some things, like proper scrollwheel behaviour with the clitmouse, have to configured in your xorg.conf.d but the thinkwiki has step by step instructions for that
>I would like to have an nice, intuitive UI that is customizable, Slack have that or is that something I can install/configure?
This is a DE issue. Slackware ships with KDE 4 and Xfce by default, and there are community packages for KDE 5, MATE, and Cinnamon, as well as (I believe) LXDE/LXQt.
The UI for system management is console-based but very comfy with easy to understand menus and options
>I don't mind learning but it its a convoluted mess I don't know if I want to bother.
Slackware is not convoluted, it has very few moving parts so it's easy to learn, but the simplicity also means it's easy to break if you accidentally some files. On the other hand, just keep a separate /home partition and you can reinstall as much as you want. That's just part of the learning experience for first-time users :^)

>>58933992
enjoy something completely unexpected possibly breaking in the future
or pacman sperging out when it can't remove libreadline.so.6 and and libreadline.so.7 already exists

>>58934111
I'm obviously not going to keep it like this, only so I can get the legitimate version

>>58934165
it's been ages since i've used arch, but i'm pretty sure pacman spergs out if files (don't) exist when it expects them (not) to. i may be wrong though

>>58934230
It only spergs when it exists but the package is supposed to provide it when you're installing

>>58934248
>rename 6 to 7 so that pacman can start
>tell pacman to install 7
>7 already exists

>>58934364
It would install over it.

>>58934472
No.Pacman knows that version 6 is installed,when he renames 6 to 7 pacman still expects 6 to be there to update to 7,not 7 already existing in the filesystem.

Grab the source from the website and build it locally but instead of using pacman to install the package,take the .so out generated pkg.gz and put it in its place.That should fix it

arch is the best

>>58934534
arch is best when competent users configure it :^)

>>58934534
... example for failure

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What's the meaning of the Arch logo?

>>58934595
"A" for autism.

>>58934595
A naked Arch user looks down between his legs.

>>58934595
"Cutting edges"

Does Sourcemage have a screenfetch logo?

>>58933094
anyway to monitor my IP for changes from CLI?

>>58934721
can you be more vague?

>>58934753
ok sorry, I want a small lightweight cli tool that posts my current ip waits 5 seconds then clears terminal and repeats, it's cause I'm using a vpn via network manager so it doesn't have a kill switch or anything so I worry about if it's turned on

>>58934806
>posts my current ip waits 5 seconds then clears terminal and repeats
posts it to the terminal also doesn't have to be exactly this but something to this effect

Should I try Gentoo or Source Mage first?

>>58934828
Slackware

>>58934840
Not on the the list.

>>58934828
I don't know any reason why anyone would use Source Mage over Gentoo

>>58934074
Again a good answer Slack dude.

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Is Source Mage the new meme?

>>58933601
>learn2chroot
Since ArchLinux install guide has arch-chroot stage, can't you just boot usb and arch-chroot?
>Honest question (Not running arch now, and it never broke on me when I did run it)

>>58934707
linux_logo, but screenfetch is just a bash script anyway

>>58934945
Yes

>>58934828
You can go through the first pages of the Gentoo handbook to install Source Mage.

>>58932935

How can rsync do that reliably? I was looking for a solution and rsync apparently wasn't the right tool. There was one specifically made for it and it still had moments where you had to manually intervene.

I don't trust computers somehow to do it, so I still manually delete and copy directories between computers on my network.

>>58934945
Nah, it's just kevin shilling a new thing

>>58934859
Those are both just autistic versions of Slackware

>>58935009
kevin pls

>>58935009
>>58935055
chances are one or both of these are actually kevin trying to become internet famous

>>58935078
yes

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Wizards assemble !

Advanced users of GNU/Linux (and I mean advanced), remember to try Source Mage GNU/Linux. True source-based distribution that can heal broken installs. And (in contrast with Gentoo and Arch) is:
Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code.
Fully committed to GPL, uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package.
With even the documentation licensed as FDL.
Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages.
Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash.
Uses clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates.
Can also use flags.

Do you like Arch Linux's AUR? Do you like Gentoo's portgage (or ports-like) package manager? With SMGL's "sorcery" you get all that. Making new spells (packages) not found in the grimoire (repository) is easy http://sourcemage.org/Spell/Book

Bash hackers welcome! http://sourcemage.org/

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>>58935127

>>58935127
>compiling everything from source
If I wanted to do that, I'd use Gentoo

>>58933094
>someone saved the stallmanthebearded image
oh my

>>58935008
Sounds like you're looking for a version control system. Consider subversion or git.

>>58934823
>>58934806
If you're worried about the vpn not being connected then you should setup the default route to go through the vpn (tun|tap) interface, an entry for the vpn remote address, and a thrid route for all traffic with a worse metric (than the vpn route) going to localhost.

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>>58935127

>>58935127
>Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code
>90% of your hardware wont work
>Fully committed to GPL, uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package
>90% of your hardware wont load
>Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages.
>90% of your functionality limited

>>58934828
http://sourcemage.org/Comparison%20with%20Gentoo

Source mage is closer to LFS than Gentoo

>>58935269
I agree, is not the first time I hear the same.

>>58935221

VCSs wouldn't work well with binary files. I can't even imagine how quickly it would eat my hard drive if I tracked 1GB files with it.

I'm using Source Mage, if it mattes.

>>58935127
What does RMS have to say about this? Why isn't it on his list of approved distros?

>>58935327
maybe they don't know about it, tell'em!

>>58935009
I don't see how it could possibly not be a meme though, it's hilarious. Apparently it was out in 2000 so I don't know why it hasn't become a meme sooner

>>58935336
2007, no?

>>58933129
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>>58935127
>>58935325
>>58935269
>samefagging this hard

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>58935327
Good question. I guess the only reason is not on the list is because there is the option to add a sort of non-free repo called z-rejected. Merely optional if you want it.

So this >>58935254 guy is lying.

>>58935371
No, it came out as Sorcerer in july of 2001.

Hello all,

Forgive me for I am going to ask a question that probably gets asked a lot here, so I'll just get it over with:


What is the best distro that employs KDE, which works OOB?

>>58935427
install source mage

>>58935427
>KDE
>works OOTB
Slackware

>>58935438
In English please?

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>>58935397
TempleOS

>>58935427
source mage

>>58935427
Netrunner. Check it out before this becomes a shitfest and they make you crazy.

>>58935397
likely ubuntu/mint.

if you want something a step up with more packages you can go with manjaro, I prefer it.

>>58935427
Source Mage

>>58935469
>A distro based on a distro based on a distro based on Debian

Hmmmm

>>58935485
>mint
get out

>>58935494
seems pretty based

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Speaking of hackers and wizards, check this documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOP1LNr70aU

>>58935427
KDE Neon if you're okay with mostly outdated packages.

>>58935427
kde is shit

I want to install Kali Linux to a flash drive.
When I select the flash drive as location; after a while of installing it says: "failed to install system" and no explanation why.
Any suggestion on how to solve this or what the problem might be?

>>58935560
Recommend a better DE then.

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Does anyone else who uses KDE Neon experience longer loading times before the lock screen than even Windows 7?

Been using it for a week and not too impressed. Might look another distro to try.

When is the year of the GNU/Hurd desktop?

>>58935645
When gnus learn to program.

>>58935645
When they finally port Source Mage to the Hurd https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-hurd/2003-03/msg00049.html

Imagine.

anybody know how to fix unicode characters that show up as thin square boxes? i can't find anything about this

>>58935689
Use a utf8 locale
Use utf8 supported font

>>58935699
thanks mate

Something tells me people are now busy compiling from source.

>>58934721

while true; do new=`ifconfig wlan0 | awk '/inet /{print $2}'`; if [ "$new" != "$old" ];then echo `date +'[%D %T]'` $new; old=$new;fi;sleep 5;done

>>58935772
mage

>>58935645
It's already 0.9, wait 1-2 years.

>>58935788
>backticks
the 90s want your code back

>>58935815
>making four extra keypresses and having an extra character if i don't need to

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Why is Arch Linux so popular on /g/? Is it good?

>>58935853
>Why is Arch Linux so popular on /g/?
it isn't
>Is it good?
no

>>58935853
arch is a meme

>>58935870
no entries on knownyourmeme
source?

>>58935853
In meme terminology, Arch users are blue pilled.

Vim overwrites backups with filename expansion set. Fuck vim. This is a 40 year old bug.

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Why aren't you running Source Mage?

>>58935853
>Why is Arch Linux so popular on /g/?
1) You have to do everything yourself, which is nice for ricers and other people who only want certain things for their systems.

2) Pacman >>> most other package managers.

3) Very nice wiki made specifically for it.

4) Ultimately, with all this said, it's not actually difficult to maintain an Arch installation, especially in the past 3-4 years.

5) It's very easy to "forget" you're using Arch, in terms of its lack of branding and other distro-specific problems. Tying to #1, it really lets you make the system your own.

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>>58935946
>sport scooter

>>58935946
omfg I want one

>>58935961
>Pacman >>> most other package managers
being a better piece of shit than even bigger pieces of shit isn't much to brag about...
>it's not actually difficult to maintain an Arch installation
until it breaks
>distro-specific problems
it has plenty of it's own, don't worry

>>58935540
v i n t a g e RMS @ 2:57

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>>58935946
>Source Mage's tagline is “Linux so advanced, it may as well be magic”,[5] and its commands have a “sorcerous theme”. Each package is called a “spell”, and its package management program is called “sorcery”.[5] To install a package the user must “cast” that spell. Casting a spell consists of downloading the source code (if it is not already downloaded), checking for dependencies, casting them if necessary, compiling the program, and installing it. A set of available spells is called a “grimoire”. To uninstall a package the user must “dispel” the spell

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>SOURCE MAGE

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how to get windows aesthetic on lignux?

>>58936047
run the real thing in a vm
that way you can turn it off when it starts sucking

Hello /fglt/
I just finished installing my first Linux. How do I cast spells?

>>58936092
GNU/Linux*

>>58936047
hit it with a sledgehammer

>>58935853
Arch is not popular on /g/ at all. That's because /g/ is full of clueless noobs who can't install it.

>>58936092
>>58935946
>>58935789
>>58935772
>>58935670
>>58935540
>>58935491
>>58935457
>>58935438
>>58935411
>>58933129
>>58933149
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>>58934981
>>58934945
>>58935127
>>58935325
>>58935269
samefagging this hard

>>58935411
>Initial release 2 February 2007
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorcerer_(Linux_distribution)

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>>58936047
I don't know about the panel, but I have always wished GNU/Linux aesthetic stayed more true to the early computer graphics look.
and sometimes when I see old windows screenshots it makes me want to ditch gentoo and install XP again.
Or even people on win7 who turn all the fancy shit off

I know everyone always shouts "nostalgiafag" but honestly I think there's a real valid art style in there.

It's like there's something about the limited graphics that just appeals to the logical/computing side of my brain or something.
I don't know if it's just me, or if everyone else is just pretending that icons are as interesting looking when they're flat/smooth

>>58936227
Also, this is why I secretly hope everyone ditches GTK and qt for FLTK in the future, although I'm just dreaming.

Why is Linux support for Bluetooth so awful?

It's like nothing has changed since like 2010, everything crashes and burns all the time when I try to use a Bluetooth device.

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Why aren't you using Fedora?

>>58936363
Because someone thought in reinventing the wheel and replacing BlueZ with whatever pulseaudio use.

>>58936379
because redhat is gay

>>58936363
I have come to the conclusion that anything GNU/Linux doesn't support is gay.
Therefore bluetooth is gay, which explains why it's not supported.

>>58936363
Obviously developers don't care about it and you don't pay them enough to care.

>>58936412
I can confirm this.

>>58936409
>>58936412
What's wrong with being gay?

>>58936412
Do things stop being gay once GNU/Linux start supporting them better?

Things seemed far gayer in the 2000s at least in hardware terms.

>>58936456
Other way around. GNU/Linux starts supporting them as they become less gay
>>58936443
It's gay

>>58936443
No hardware support. There's no male-male connections for a reason.

>>58936187
>https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-hurd/2003-03/msg00049.html
>"Perhaps you could join Source Mage GNU/Linux and we could work on a port
as Source Mage GNU/HURD, as Debian has done. We have a _very_ nice
package management system."
>24 Mar 2003

>>58936363
BlueZ and Pulseaudio must completely break something on each update, it's tradition.

Things used by everyone get fixed relatively quickly. Others get fixed never but you might be lucky and find a workaround buried among bug reports.

About GNU/Linux gaming, I love this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pnTApG7Ijk

>>58936632
I've been using bluez and pulseaudio for about a year now, never had any problems
although I run Slackware so they probably only push the releases that have been tested and confirmed working

>>58936690
Slackware is a different breed by now. Every other distro is sinking with pulseaudio.

I'm on lubuntu and I'm trying to get something set up so audio works like windows where you just left click the volume button and seamlessly set the audio device you want to use.

Should I just install another distro that actually has features or is there some way to do this? having to guess which audio device Lubuntu/pulseaudio decided to choose today is a pain

>>58936764
Install paman, the pulseaudio manager. Is less painful.

And sorry for the poetteringware.

>>58936741
I have had zero problems with my bluetooth headset and pulseaudio.Its been 6 years since i plugged it in and it was auto detected and have had zero issues after.
I'm using arch btw

I put all my software in /opt and add it to PATH using Environment Modules.

Am I a bad boy?

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>>58936536
>16 years of development
>We are currently pre-1.0
HURD actually sounds like a great choice for them

>>58935540
>https://youtu.be/zOP1LNr70aU?t=177
>my project is to make all software free

if fucking everything is based on debian why can't you just run debian and use some franken-OS of ubuntu and mint repos?

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>>58936831
I linked /bin/monut to /bin/mount
I use /mnt for all my mountpoints and use /media for all my media (audio, video, images, books, software, etc.), which gets merged from the media directories on all my volumes
I keep plaintext passwords for various things (remote torrent client, mpd, icecast, commonly used ftp locations, database server, etc.) in scripts and aliases and probably lots of other random places in my $HOME

>>58937032
jessie has ppa support, often can use ubuntu repos

>>58936536
Why is nobody working on this? If they were to port to the Hurd I sure give it a try.

Why is Source Mage so pupular on /g/?

>>58937755
because a bunch of mentally ill faggots think using a distro that you have to compile from source that has been around for 15+ years and never made it to version 1.0 makes them cool because they can """"cast"""" """"spells"""" from """""""grimoires"""""""

>>58937755
the real question is
>why didn't it get more attention sooner?

>>58937755
it's not

the recent spike in popularity on /g/ can obviously be attributed to some fat spamming autist

>>58937755
It wasn't until yesterday.

>>58937834
kek

>>58937857
Good question.

>>58937927
I was obviously not alone m8. And I am skinny if it matters ;^)

>>58935961
>You have to do everything yourself
I use Arch for the exact opposite reason. I never had to manually build niche applications because everything I need is in the AUR.

>>58938148
not what he meant, and any normal distro has an automated build system, not just retarded ones like Arch

so what do you guys do with Linux anyways

>>58938426
Everything you do plus things i do

>>58938426
shitpost on /g/ all day, err'day

>>58938426
I hang at Source Mage IRC on Freenode, I heard guys there are cool ;^)

>>58935772
SourceMage

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Can someone help me out? I got a new laptop today and I installed Ubuntu on it and then decided to just go with my desktop's setup so I installed i3wm via apt and then copied over all of my config and dot files. However I'm getting this error that I'm not getting on my desktop and I can't figure out how to fix it.

I've tried installing i3status from apt, compiling from source, and making sure I have all the dependencies installed and nothing fixed it.

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>>58938426
>browse 4chan
>stress test the sicc overclock I got that I'll never use
>edit video
>programming
>writing papers
>chinese cartoons

>>58938922
Nevermind, I'm a fucking idiot. Forgot I was using i3block instead of i3status

>>58938965
>edit video
as in with ffmpeg or with an actual non-linear video editor? if latter, which have you gotten to work well?

>>58939012
I use Kdenlive. I'm sure there's a whole fuckton of dependencies if you don't use KDE, but it's worked fine for simple crap for university and I was able to figure out how to use it without prior video editing experience.

>>58939047
ok. that's actually the only thing I've been able to use after years of trying to find a decent NLVE for Linux. I did video years and years ago in HS on Premiere and wanted something similar. I found it workable but a little slow and laggy sometimes and it crashed more than never. just was wondering if there was anything better.

I'm getting a little tired of dual booting here. I have 8Gb of RAM. What's the best VMware I can use? Do I need to upgrade my RAM?

>>58939047
Have you tried OpenShot?

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Why doesn't it go to the top?
Who designed this? Can it be changed?

>>58938426
GNU/Linux*

>>58939302
right click and find out

>>58938426
GNU/Linux*᠎

>>58939267
No, maybe I'll use it next time I need to do something.

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I'd like to try out Bunsen Labs. Anyone here know how it's like?

>>58939302
>Can it be changed?
Yes. Stop using Unity.

I have yet to find a single Linux distro that works completely out of the box, or doesn't require hours of troubleshooting. Sad.. very sad.

>>58939376
Basically debian but everything is gray

>>58939244
8gig is plenty unless you are editing video or use chrome

>>58939396
Linux Lite

>>58939396
that's part of the experience. You just gotta git good.

>>58939376
yes, I've used debian with openbox before
if you don't mind the xml config it's fine I guess

>>58939396
my laptop has one specific problem that has to be solved regardles of distro I choose, but other than than almsot all of them work straight away.

what issues do you have common to all installs?

>>58939419
I do use Chrome sometimes. Guess I'll just keep it off when I use VM software. Or just get rid of it completely since it's shit.
I guess I should go with Virtual box?

>>58939396
GNU/Linux*

>>58939409
Sounds like my life. :^)

>>58939428
Would be my first time but interested in learning how it works. I've read it's not too bad for beginners.

>>58939430
>what issues do you have common to all installs?
Can't think of any off the top of my head. Sometimes the sound is difficult to get working.

>>58939455
if you don't have the time (an afternoon) to install and configure what you need go for bunsen labs
otherwise just do a debian netinst and install openbox with tint2 bar

>>58939455
It comes with preconfigured ricer shit. All the pizzazz of a super l337 haxxor desktop, without all the remorse that comes with learning how to tweak all those rc files.

>>58939492
>all those rc files
>implying there's more than one

>>58939512
Conky, tint, openbox, etc..

>>58939485
I guess I'd get the same as Bunsen labs witht hat kind of installation? No difference?

Still need to find a good VM software.

>>58939492
Bunsen Labs does you mean? Seems about like how most things do.

>>58939439
go with QEMU, if you want a GUI you can try aqemu, but the wikibook is enough to teach you one specific line you will use always

the reason I tell you that is because you can use KVM, which makes your virtual machine run with near native performance

>>58939569
I'll give it a try and look into it. If I don't like it I'll curse your name. None the less thanks for the suggestion.

>>58939439
Use virtualbox. Use kvm/qemu if you REALLY give a fuck about performance or want guest storage setup on lvm. its a pain in the ass otherwise.

>>58939617
Depends how the performance is when just browsing the web or writing source code.

>>58939533
either way, tint2 config is trivial and conky shouldn't even be used
openbox's rc.xml is the only thing that can be confusing and time consuming at first because it's a shitty xml
.xinitrc is the only other "rc" file that comes to mind and that's just a startup script, there's nothing to "learn"

>>58939537
bunsen labs is just debian + openbox + tint2 + conky preconfigured
ergo >>58939485

>>58939593
this is the wikibook https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QEMU

this will create a "hardrive" of 60 (you can obviously edit that part, also if you replace "qcow2" with "raw" you'll increase performance)

qemu-img create -f qcow2 winshit.img 60G

this is when you want to install from a cd (either save to your ~/bin or replace "$1" with the virtual HDD and "$2" with the .iso image)

qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2G -hda "$1" -cdrom "$2" -boot d

this is for running the virtual machine from then on

qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2G -hda "$1"

>>58939646
also the part that says "-m 2G" is the RAM, so you can edit that at your wish, if you for example want an 8GB RAM

qemu-system-x86_64 -m 8G -hda "$1"

>>58939629
>nothing to "learn"
one of those guys eh?

>>58939646
>>58939676
not that anon, but thanks, that's pretty useful

>>58939714
I forgot to say it "-enable-kvm" should be appended to turn on KVM. And should be used only after the installation of the OS. Example

qemu-system-x86_64 -m 8G -hda winshit.raw -enable-kvm

>>58939713
what the fuck do you need to know about .xinitrc to be able to edit it, besides that it is a xorg startup script, ergo you fill it with shit you want to run when xorg starts (and the last command should be executing the wm)?
assuming you know what a sript is

>>58939759
what if I want to install multiple OS's, do I just create new disk files?

>>58939469
>>58939396
do you have some weird hardware? Slackware has worked OOTB on pretty much every single thing I've installed it on, except maybe things that need proprietary firmware not available (or that wasn't available at the time) with the stock kernel

>>58939485
>>58939455
fluxbox > openbox
because xml is cancer
also tabbed windows

>>58939830
In the same virtual HDD? You'll do like you normally do, a partition.

But if you mean handling more than one HDD, is actually supported with the "-hd?" flag, where "?" represends a letter, like -hda, -hdb, etc. Only caveat is that you can't use "hdc" because apparently that represents the cdrom. Is explained in the wikibook.

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>>58939885
Slack guy, my man, accept that Source Mage is in the altar of elder god tier distros, right next to Slackware.

>>58933528
chroot into your system and reinstall base

>>58939967
>You'll do like you normally do, a partition.
you can partition a virtual HDD?

>>58940061
yes, you can do a lot of stuff anon

>>58940079
so is it better to partition that virtual HDD or create a new HDD?
also, how do I partition it, from a booted iso with fdisk?

>>58940092
it all depends on what you want, because to install a new distro you need to partition an empty virtual HDD

having two virtual HDD? for what purpose? just stick to partition the HDD

as of how you do the partition, you boot the virtul machine and you'll partition inside like you normally would in a normal machine

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>>58939995
пиздyй aтcyддa цyккo бльйaтЪ

>>58940131
thanks

What was your distro hopping journey, fglt?
>Mint live USB
>Try debian because muh stability and someone told me to try it and that mint was botnet
>Realise debian is so stable it has a kernel that's literally years old
>Too babby to install arch so I try antergos, before realising that it gave me a broken install
>Install arch and am pretty happy now

I might try slackware or Gentoo soon. (And maybe bsd or something eventually)

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>it's a gparted crashes and corrupts my USB and starts using 99% of one core and refuses to killed episode

everyday a new adventure with linux :^)

>>58940501
>Do tons of research beforehand
>Choose Debian Testing
>Still there

>>58940501
ubuntu > mint > kubuntu >sabayon > debian > antergos > void


Pretty happy with void, everything works and nothing has broken so far despite being a rolling release.

Also have gentoo on the other hdd in my laptop I'm trying to get going as a hobby. It boots but networking doesn't work. Tossing up between i3 or xfce once I get that fixed.

>>58940510
>still using gparted

>>58940501
I used Devuan for more than a year now, I might settle with Sourcemage

absolutely bizarre issue with steam I'm having recently:
>download any game
>downloads the first 95-99% at 4megabytes per second (my actual internet speed)
>the last 5% will often slow to a crawl, literally 5 bytes per second

I can't figure out what the problem is. all my other downloads are fast, and the drive is an ssd.

>>58940501
>First computer was dual-boot XP/Slackware
>bringing Slax CDs/USBs to school and pissing off our IT guy
>Decided to try SuSE after a few years
>Doesn't install
>Oh well, Slackware is great anyway
>College, decide to try Fedora
>Works, but not really that comfy
>Go back to Slackware
>Had to leave my first computer behind when I ran away, then my college laptop broke, so I got an eee701 (back when they were new) with Xandros
>just your regular KDE once you turn off the tablet interface
>netbook as primary computer sucks though
>order a dell laptop back when they still offered them with Ubuntu instead of Windows, save $200
>Ubuntu is... different?
>But at least this was back when it used GNOME 2
>But a lot of shit doesn't work or works badly
>Decide to try Debian
>Not much better
>Install Slackware
>tfw everything works
>Later spend a whole night stripping down the base Slackware install to make it fit on the 4GB SSD in the 701 with at least some space left over for a home partition
>at some point I write some small Catalyst websites that I host on VPSes that run CentOS
>preddy gud, simple to learn, not too different from what I'm used to, seems sane and stable
>years later I get a new netbook
>What's this Arch thing? I hear it's minimal...
>not_bad.gif
>a year later I have my first issue with pacman fucking up
>several months later pacman breaks my entire system
>systemd starts replacing everything and I can't do shit about it
>by now the laptop I bought to replace my dell after it broke broke and all i have is this Arch POS Atom netbook
>run pacman -Syu no more than once a month, only after saying a prayer to Dagon
>keep sticking with it for some reason
>buy a computer on CL for $40, becomes my first Slackware server
(1/2)

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>>58940790
>several years and several moves later, buy my first ThinkPad
>now's my chance to try new distros
>try Fedora
>wtf. this is terrible.
>so complex
>so strict
>so volatile
>try OpenSuSE
>some parts are vaguely familiar, but the whole system just feels weird
>go back to Slackware because it has slackpkg+ and sbopkg and it never breaks and it never argues with me and I hardly ever have to compile anything and I can understand the init system
>every single computer since then, first thing I do is install Slackware

maintaining linux for other people:
>many years ago put/maintained Debian on my (ex)fiancee's laptop to replace her completely shit hacked Korean bootleg XP installation
>kinda worked, until apt went batshit crazy over a self-conflicting dependency chain
>ugh, whatever, she doesn't need important security updates for firefox
>our relationship was falling apart anyway, fuck that bitch and that shitty ass distro

>several years ago convinced my mom to install Linux on her desktop because it had Vista and was a complete pile of aids
>Slackware to the rescue
>OMG ANON THE COMPUTER WORKS GREAT NOW
>later she gets a laptop, asks me to put Linux on it right away
>decide to give her Mint
>several years later she has done two upgrades/reinstalls on her own and can fix most minor problems by Googling

>last year put Xubuntu on my grandmother's ancient Pentium 4 Sony VAIO because she had Vista and malware and it would take 5 minutes to open any program
>WOW, IT'S SO GREAT
>2 months later
>Anon... why don't I have a menu? How am I supposed to use this?
>??? Isn't it on the top?
>Oh

>also last year my sister (12) got her first laptop
>convinced my parents to get her a refurbished T420
>put Slackware on it with KDE 5, icecat, wine, a bunch of classic games
>tell her to just play around with all the settings, read man pages, and run slackpkg update && slackpkg install-new && slackpkg upgrade-all every so often
>already ricing Plasma
>mfw

What's a graphical file manager I can use without breaking i3? That means no nautilus

>>58940952
/blog

>>58941025
Any of them? How does Nautilus break i3?

>>58941025
Not sure why any of them would break i3, but I use thunar on i3 without issues

>>58933094
Every single image editing program for Shitnux/CuckNU is fucking GARBAGE

>COPY SOMETHING
>PASTE IT
>DOESNT DO SHIT DEPSITE HAVING NEW LAYER

FUCKIGN EPIC KEKNUX FUCKING FAGGOT RETARDS

>>58941064
>>58941058
No idea why it does it, but every time I launch Nautilus, it puts up an old wallpaper I had and none of my i3 keybinds work anymore. I blame Cinnamon.

>>58941090
Nautilus is the Gnome file manager, not Cinnamon. Anyay, try PCManFM.

>>58941058
>>58941064
>>58941090
i should add that thunar works, cheers

>>58941090
nautilus handles desktop setting by default in gnome and based environments
iirc something like

nautilus --no-desktop &

stops that

How do I send a DHCP request just to view the DHCP offer without assigning anything?

I have dhclient installed, and the man says

-n    Do not configure any interfaces.

. However, when I run

dhclient -n -4

, it runs without any output until I stop it by hand.

how well does photoshop run under wine (on debian / buntu)?

Am I the only one who thinks all system config files should be placed inside /root?

Sort of in analogy to how running software as a user is outside your $HOME (and also owned by a different user but whatever) and the custom settings/configs are stored inside $HOME

So all the stuff that gets run as root should have its settings/configs inside /root. e.g. want to configure apache? Instead of modifying configs in /etc/apache2 or whatever you just go to /root/.apache

>>58941135
I've always heard people say that photoshop runs flawlessly in wine. Never tried it myself though.

is cinnamon good?

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you guys shilled SM so much that i'm actually testing it

>>58941510
Have you used Gentoo or Slackware before? If so it would be interesting to hear what you think about how they compare.

>>58941543
started on Slack; retired to Gentoo

Is trisquel the ideal choice for someone who wants a system with no potential back doors?

>>58941415
My favorite spice.

>>58941415
It's friendly. If you want full featured and convenient over slim and lightweight then it's a good way to go. Not as obese as KDE

>>58941753
apple mac os

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>>58941874

>>58941510
Good.

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>>58941510
>spells

>>58939885

>xml is cancer
Yeah, because I edit my Openbox config manually multiple times per day.

Why is this thread so fast?

>>58943153
the memes

>>58943153
Shitposting

>>58943153
meme magic

>>58943153
It runs on GNU.

>>58943276