/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>58924746
>pic
Fuck Taiwan.

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GTA V cant even run maxed out and on high its still at 40-60

is it the cpu?

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>>58924746
>Building

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>>58924886
yes

>>58924904
>autism

>>58924886
just curious, as i have a similar setup.
what can you run gta 5 on? how well?

it runs ok on high, i can see the fps dip during cinematics.

the fucked up thing is when i overclock the card the frames go to shit

>>58924947
sounds like throttling.

https://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117643&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-LogicalIncrements.com%20Inc-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=5961731&SID=0

just bought this. dwarf fortress here i come

>>58924886

Yes, it's definitely the CPU that's holding the GPU back.

>>58924947

it's definitely the CPU

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>tfw it's the video game console assembly general thread

is 8 jigglybites of rams enough for general vidya or should i fall for the 16 jiggles meme?

>>58925364
>>58925379

thanks for the info guys. will be looking for a new cpu

>>58925446
i would say go 32 but 16 is nice

how would you rate this card?

https://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500414

Does anyone know how the 15% promo code for jet.com works fully? Can I place three individual orders, each maxing the 30$ cap and potentially saving me 90$?

Can anyone give me any good reason why I shouldn't buy this processor? I checked and it's compatible with my mobo etc. Am I missing some known defect I haven't heard about?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009O7YUF6/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=B009O7YUF6&linkCode=as2&tag=thedaionl-21

>>58925560
>https://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500414
>794 australian fun bucks. What the fuck is your currency?

>>58926189
>https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009O7YUF6/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=B009O7YUF6&linkCode=as2&tag=thedaionl-21

Amd meme. Just wait for ryzen.

>>58926229
>Amd meme. Just wait for ryzen.
I need a working desktop now, not when some vapourware comes out.

>>58926257
In that case, I haven't heard anything extensively bad about it. As long as its compatible you should be fine.

>>58926276
Sweet, cheers.

Planning a gaming build cause my laptop died. Figure it makes sense to plan around most intensive game I play; Skyrim with ENB mods (2560x1080 & 75Hz). 1070 and 7600K an appropriate choice?

>>58926296
Don't know tooo much about enb mods but I haven't run into anything non 4K that I can't handle with my 1070 and a weaker processor than yours.

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What is the best motherboard for a core i5 6600 both in terms of pricing and compatibility/features

>>58926564
>>58926564
Also, is it true that skylake are the last intel CPU's that run with windows 7 until 2020 or so?

Should i get/wait for a newer generation AMD FX instead for roughly the same money so that i have a newer CPU and can still use windows 7 ur is the i5 6600 pretty much the way to go?

Building a small / lite PC, need your recs
>needs 2 ram slots
>needs a pci slot for GTX 560 SE
>needs to be powerful enough to play some minor games and streaming movies
>want to keep it as cheap as I can get away with

That said, mini itx or micro atx? Intel pentium/i3 or some AMD? Any cases good for light portability? I'm thinking about those Silverstone HTPC cases.

Is bq Pure Rock any good?
I'm looking for decent cpu cooler under 40 usd (cpu is i5 6600k).
Also, 212 evo is not an option (simply not available).

>>58926730
Pentium G4560 + B250 board

mATX should be significantly cheaper than mITX

>>58927034
Pure Rock is pretty good.
Should be able to cool a 6600k at up to 4.2 GHz just fine.

test

Is there a way to disable the leds on MSI Gaming X RX 480 without using the cancerous MSI Gaming App ?

So what purpose does the i3 7100 fill when the G4560 is so much better value? Talking strictly about non-gaming applications, I know that there's pretty much identical performance in games between the two.

>>58928451
sucking out the money of the less informed goys

>>58928451
More shekels for Intel

>>58924746
Are there any custom braided cables out there for the EVGA Supernova G3 yet? Pretty sure G2's are compatible but I don't want to fuck around and guess when it comes to power supply related anything.

Anyone here that has had a good experience with this PSU? https://www.newegg.com/global/nl/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438016

>>58928948
>retards always posting links to the product
>not the fucking name of the product
everytime

>>58926577

Upgrade to 10 already you fucking Cluck. You have to at some point soon.

Your skylake is fine. Wait a year and see what intell does in panic mode so you don't have to buy a new mobo.

>>58929341
>another year
make that a two for the 10nm

What's the difference between the different mobos like H110, B150, B250, Z270 and shit? I know that one thing is overclocking potential but how much does it matter what mobo you get as long as it has the features you need?

>>58929679
Number of ram slots and speed of ram, sata slots and raid capability are the main differences besides the obvious overclocking.

>>58924886
i run gta 5 with an rx 480 with a 4690k@ 4.5 ghz and it hovers around 60-85 fps on very high without msaa or advanced settings, i think you're doing something wrong.

>>58929679
If you have to ask, just buy an H110 or B150/250 motherboard.

>>58929002
>Retards always critisizing the post instead of answering the question
everytime

Corsair cx750m PSU, how is it?

>>58930800
Not good m8. You probably don't need 750W either.
Post specs and what features you want from it.

>>58930827
>Not good m8. You probably don't need 750W either.
390 nitro, yes I do.
I have it right now, just thinking if I should replace it for ryzen or if it doesnt't pan out for i7 cofee, I got it very cheap couple years back. Seems to work fine for sandy, but no idea how it will handle more sensitive modern CPUs.

What's the smallest case you can put a 1080 in? Can you build a mATX rig with a 1080 in it?

I am looking to buy a small business server to host a bunch of Docker containers. Will older gen dual Xeon's with 64GB RAM and 4 256gb SSD's be a solid start? If so, blade server or buy a full size tower for it?

>>58924746
is there a video of that?

>>58930894
Just go to Pcpartpicker.com, pick a 1080, and then try to pick a case. It shouldn't give you ones that don't fit, and I'm pretty sure you can order by size.

>>58924746
Any advice you could give me as you rate this build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DTFQBP

>>58931519
Get better HSF, GPU and PSU. What about storage?

>>58931519
Go for the cryorig h7 over the evo. And a better video card would be nice, but I know nobody picks the 1050ti because they want to. Also having just built my pc in that case, it looks a bit odd if you can't fill the drive cages.

>>58930827
Is the corsair cx or corsair in general not being good a meme ? I've read that the first version was shitty, but they released newer version - instead of 400 500 and such, they are 450 550 650W and the reviews say they're a lot better than the old ones, so are you just spouting old memes or are the only single digits of PSUs actually good like Seasonics ?

GTX 650, x4 965, 8 gig ram, laughable 250 hard drive but it works for me. Problem is streaming. Audio has construction noises going on if the conference level is increased. Honestly time to get a bit of an upgrade anyways. Any recommendations? Goal is to stream various pc, PS, and Xbone games (Overwatch, RE, FF 6-12) with relatively decent sound. Want my shiny pixels. Poor man's budget of 650 or so.

Is there any good alternative to Corsair Air 540 when it comes to cube builds for ATX sized mainboards? any recommendations very welcome

>>58924886
Don't listen to these retards. It's clearly the gfx card because you're running at high resolution. Turn off super sampling

>>58931702
They are passable for non-gaming rigs without any overclocking. They just don't hold up under any sort of strain and are only rated at 30c.

budget is around 550-600 for the PC itself

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PBwM6X

basically trying to build my first gaming PC

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>>58930873
No you don't. This is fullsystem usage with an overclocked i7-5930k @ 4.4ghz.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7TXXFd

This is what I currently have assembled, but I need a few suggestions. (don't mind the RAM, it will be changed with time)

What CPU should I go with?
What cooler should I go with? Heatsink preferred, no Noctua...sorry enthusiasts
M.2 or SSD for a boot drive?

>>58925276
Holeee fug

>>58925446
Definitely 16GB minimum now. If your motherboard has 4 slots get 8GBx2 and upgrade in the future to 32GB if you need to. If you can spare the cash and only have 2 slots, just go 16GBx2 right off the bat.

>>58926296
>& 75Hz
Doesn't that causes Skyrim to break in all sorts of ways when you start going over 60hz?

>>58932097
Change mobo to Z270 if you plan on overclock, but seeing as you don't even have a CPU chosen, I deduct that you're just stupid
CPU cooler: meme answer is 212 evo or whatever the newest 212 is, but if someone else will take their time to answer you'll have like 5 more choices at similar price point at same/better performance, I just don't remember the coolers, something something scythe etc
>M.2 or SSD for a boot drive
wew lad, go M.2, but don't go SSD, see how that works out
But in seriousness if you have the money get an M.2 PCIe interface SSD, blazing fast and no cables

>>58932162
https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/312265526374588171/

Not that guy, but it can be fixed in the special edition.

>>58930800
Doing some SLI? If no, 600w is more than enough

>>58932199

I already have the mobo, but I can't decide between an i7 and an i5.

And as far as M.2 but not SSD, I mean M.2 form factor vs 2.5"

>Ryzen will not have ITX support until maybe 2018
>Intel has lowered the price on all of their CPU by $50
Should I just get a Babylake and call it a day instead of hold out hope for a Ryzen ITX?

>>58926296

Look up Skyrim fps 1080p on youtube and see what other people are running. Different games run better with different processors, and mods add in a whole other world because a lot of them aren't optimized.

>>58932383

And I say this not as a cop-out, but because I've been researching CPUs for the same reason. A game like Fallout 4, for example, has an old engine and needs the hyperthreading to max out the graphics. If it only has a few cores to run, it struggles to maintain 40-50 fps in certain areas. Whereas a game like R6:Siege can't use hyperthreading or it crashes.

>>58932260
>>Intel has lowered the price on all of their CPU by $50
proofs?

>>58932521

Just looked, they're all the same price.

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>>58932521
>>58932547
It's just for this weekend, I am thinking of just going with Intel now that the price listed for this weekend is actually competitive.

>>58932731
>tfw not american

i get jealous of how much cheaper it is to build a pc there

>>58924746
What does it mean if i can only boot Win10 when i limit the number of enabled cores on my i5-6600 to 2 ?
It seems kind of wierd, that two of the cores are intact, even though in safe mode all four boot up.

>>58932731
>28 % better performance versus a 3-year-old desktop

>>58933289
Damn, forgot
>Up to

So it's nothing.

>>58932260
>Ryzen will not have ITX support until maybe 2018
huh? APUs are coming in the summer, ITX boards will have surely been released by then, probably even earlier than that

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I've been literally stuck with the wires for 3 hours and I still can't figure out how to connect them...

Don't laugh at me, it's my first time..

>>58932937
Have you actually tried doing a fresh install?

>>58933343
what wires? Did you try soldering a CPU ?

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>>58933371
SATA, 6+2, and other wires of which I don't know names

Btw, can I use 6+2 wire for 6pinned GPU? (ASUS Turbo 1060). I've put the 6pin connector and didn't connect the 2pin one

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>>58933355
probably a million times, this was the only way to even boot the installer.

>>58933408
IIRC yes you can, but do you seriously have trouble with PSU cables? There's like 5 connections in total and all differ how they look
mobo power, CPU power, GPU power, HDD and SSD power and that's basically it, god damn 3 hours

>>58933470
There's strangely a lot of SSD/HDD cables, but only 4 mobo cables (1 2x4, 2x6+2, 1 24) and I can't find the rest

who /5ghz 24/7/ here?

Sold my 8350 pc (that was able to get 5ghz but only for benching) early this month and was able to get my hands on a 7600k for like 220 after taxes and whatnot.

Was able to hit [email protected] without delidding, I also tried [email protected] but cores were getting way too hot (it didn't crash/bsod though)

prob should have just gotten a g4560 that I could easily switch to ryzen but shit, no idea if ryzen can hit 5ghz yet, and if it does then i'll regret my decision

>>58933408
Yes you can, and little known fact, you could "technically" pull just as much watts as an 8pin could on 6pin

>>58933497
There's not really any more cables, apart from molex, you don't need to connect all the cables that PSU has, only the ones your build needs, which should be probably 5

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Where do I find cables for these?

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Here are the ones I managed to install

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>>58933565
Top one looks like a USB 2.0 header, but I can't be sure. The one under that is a COM port, which you almost certainly don't have. TPM is another port you're never going to use.
The header that has THB_C is a Thunderbolt header, which you don't need.
The two right under that are USB2.0 headers, which you should have coming out of your case (they're the wires with the block port connectors that look like pic related).
The one that says SYS_FAN2 is just a 4-pin fan connector for a case fan.
The colorful bit is the important one, all of which you should find coming out of the front of the case. Use your mobo's manual to figure out which goes where.

The connectors with an L-shaped center bit are SATA ports. You have more next to the chipset heatsink (the thing that says "G1 GAMING"), but those ports are facing to the side.

>>58931176
>GIS
omg, so many links!

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>>58933605
The one that says USB3.0 next to the long 24-pin ATX power connector is obviously a USB3.0 header.

Because you clearly were dropped on your head as a baby and fed on a diet of lead paint chips and hard liquor, the wire coming from your case that needs to go there should look like this

>>58933605
>case with cable management
>literally 0 (zero) effort done to manage cables
Your pic shows only three cables, although the essential ones that would let you turn on the PC, now if you connected your HDDs and SSDs to the PSU and with SATA cables to the motherboard, you're basically set, only the matter of fans

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/pcbg/ meetup when?

>>58933605
disregard everything anyone and me said, open the damn motherboard booklet and follow all the steps, that will be easier for you than follow all these posts

>>58933727
I'll fucking rape 90% you if this happens. Fuck off with your meme IRL meetups. This is how /b/ because cancer.

>>58933739
Anon that's illegal, people can't do that

>>58933902
Not if your boipussy consents

>>58933727
That doujin was cute. CUTE!

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>>58933654
Thanks, I'll try to follow
>>58933720
>>>case with cable management
>>>literally 0 (zero) effort done to manage cables
My PSU is not Modular, nor Semi-modular, so it's kinda hard.. +I didn't even try to connect all the wires, I'm just kinda stuck and trynna figure out what goes where, but the thing I understood is: there's literally a lot of wires that don't mean shit.
>>58933737
There are no steps.. Only images of those wires, but I still don't get shit from those images.

>>58933986
Fucking hell, go watch the second half of this and do what he does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bUghCx9iso

>>58934033
I did lol

The problem is: he connected the wires while installing shit, but I didn't even think about the wires while building my PC..

>>58934070
what the fuck are you on about, just connect all the loose cables it's fucking advanced lego tier

>>58934070
Rewind it then and go through the steps properly. Instead of being a retard and looking at the empty slots, you should be going through the cables you haven't plugged in yet.

I have a question. I have a shitty Alienware X51 and want to move the internals into a new mITX compatible case. I plan to put in a new gpu (something around the 980 range, because I don't need more) and I need a new psu for that. Would 600 be enough? I have an early 6th gen i5. Forget the exact model number.

What would /g/pcbg suggest? I don't want to buy everything outright right now as I'm low on money being in uni and can't afford anything over a few hundred.

>>58934216
What PSU do you have?

>>58934070
god damn, it's the current year, the mobo basically come with instructions written on themselves, the cables are labeled and you just have to put one and one together, if I managed to connect everything on a Core2Duo ~15 year old build when I was 14 or so, you should be able to connect it now
Did you have trouble with the "shape game" when you were toddler too ?

>>58934216
Define Nano S
RX 480
SuperNOVA 650 G2

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Lookin for suggestions on z270 boards. Eyeing the ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K6 board..

Picked up a 7700k babbyy Lake and have gtx1080

>>58931702
The CX series is shot with shit voltage ripple and shit amperage sustaining
Why would you go for a CX when they were known and tested as objectively garbage? Because "they might've down right this time!" unlike the competition PSUs that are exactly the same price and much much much better?

>>58932486
>Fallout 4 cores
>90-130fps
To be fair getting a fps consistent enough to even use vsync is a fucking nightmare, fps is all over the place but never down to 40-50

>>58924746
How does this gaymen build look? Is it a bad idea to use an archive drive for media files?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R8YpNN

>>58924886
I have same GPU 1080, same monitor, but with a [email protected], 3Ghz ddr4. 3440x1440 is huge res man, I can't even get 60 fps with max settings no msaa on in gta v. I had to get two GTX 1070s in sli to run GTA V in Ultra with Redux mod at 3440x1440

>>58935066
Almost all of gtaVs problems stem from the CPU, but the GPU/VRAM usage is fairly unreasonable too
It's just not a well optimized game

>>58935084
Who cares if it's not optimized it looks gorgeous. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymiH9WHOaN0

>>58935130
I mean mods look good, but people will start caring how poorly they run as soon as the screen starts stuttering
I'm just saying it's pretty normal that even a top-end system doesn't have the CPU power or vram for GTAV, especially with high texture (High VRAM) mods
If you can run it well good for you but clearly someone can't

>>58935130
Witcher 3 both looks better and runs better.

>>58935312
I was gonna actually say that too but I decided this isn't /v/
Witcher is one of the few games where I still frequently stop to admire the scenery

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>Spend $1200 on top end PC
>Blue screens and freezing games ever since I bought it
>Just today try to run memtest86
>The problem the whole time was a single stick of ram
Woo all I have to do to fix the problem is buy more hardware

>>58935814
RMA the dead stick you idiot.

Hey /g/. I have a problem. My mobo only supports 2 fans, but I plan on having 5 (2 built-in, 3 added). Can you recommend me some fan splitters or hubs(at least 5 ports, pwm please)

>>58935636winds howling

>>58935885
I'm gonna try, ram is $30 more expensive than when I bought this
You wouldn't happen to know if it's newegg or gskill I need to contact do you? I know gskill had a lifetime warranty but I don't know if newegg selling it fucks everything up rma-wise

are aio liquid coolers better than air ones? I plan to oc my 7700 but want to save $$ where possible

>>58936083
Typically the retailer handles it for the first year then after that you go to the manufacturer.

>>58936171
That is an obvious yes. Your question should really be is a custom loom better than AiO, or if you really need to OC that much.

>>58935935
Here is my build
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/gdTP6h

>>58936171
Usually no.
With 280mm radiators and bigger, sometimes yes.
With a properly set up watercooling loop with a big radiator, always.
But with aios you gain noise, you lose longetivity and you risk a leak, broken pump or cracked hoses.
A BIG aircooler will be a better choice overall than an average AiO, it'll last longer, be much quieter and perform just as well (or better depending on how small or shitty your AIO is)

>>58927231
>hyper 212 evo cools a 6600k at 4.6GHz with degrees to spare

>>58936641
212 is garbage and should not be bought in 2017.

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Ok /g/ let's have a challenge.

Make a PC more powerful or as powerful as a PS4 for under the price of a Ps4-400$(when it first came out)

Dante must die mod: Make it 250$ Since ps4's are that much now

So, modular psu's....

Are the cords that plug into the psu standardized? For example, can I get a corsair modular psu and get third party cables with no compatibility issues?

>>58936662
Why not make a machine 5x as powerful for 3x that price?

>>58936722
No.

>>58936722
Usually not. The scourge of proprietary hardware.
Just get them from corsair, I bet they sell plenty of them to gaymers, I bet they even sell RGB PSU cables

>>58936728
I just want to upset PS4fags and consolecucks.

I don't really gloat about PC master race and all that but I get off on maximizing power from less powerful components and compete them against better ones.

I believe if you are able to beat a high/higher end machine with weaker components it shows your ability to master output and probably help you out later in life.

>>58936744
They don't.

I'm doing a military camo build (gay but I don't give a fuck), so high vis cables won't work, but black is to plain.

Oh well, I will figure something out. Worse comes to worse I paint them.

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>>58936823
Sleeves you idiot. Or Camo electric tape.

>>58924746
This scientist should have used that Samsung phone cryptography that works remotely, with one admin on NASA deactivating the sensitive data.

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>>58936662
there, you can swap out the 1tb hdd for a 120gb ssd, case and hdd may be completely free as chances are, you can rip those from an old home pc. all this is great and all but it's better to pay a higher initial cost since the savings down the road are so worth it.

>>58936936
>1050 GPU
I know the competition is 900p and 30fps but come on

>>58936936
You can probably pay someone like 20$ to update the BIOS on an older Mobo.

>>58936662
super easy with used parts

>>58937007
You also would probably save less than $20 by getting a B150 board

>>58935935
Hey can someone please give me some advice on this pl0x? Would appreciate it as i posted it an hour and a half ago

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Is the 1080 worth the $200 over the 1070 if I'm planning to stay at 1080p for a while?

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>>58936971
>>58937007
alright, let's say you get the cheapest H110 mobo your cheap ass can find and you update the Bios, let's also say you somehow find a case for free. this allows the inclusion of a "low end" rx 470 and bam, you have what is considered the best budget gaming combo or at least that's what I hear.

>>58937172
At 1080p the 1070 isn't worth it

>>58937212
Well I want it to last me 3-4 years like my 7950 has before it really starts taking a shit on newer games.

>>58937264
Well the 1070 will be overkill for years to come, that's not a bad thing it's just kinda wasted on a 1080p/60hz screen

>>58937304
I might jump to 1440p in a year or two but yeah I have the budget for it so I might as well and be set for a few years again.

>>58937318
You might as well, if you have the budget and your whole build is future proofed

>>58937318
The best part about having a 1070 is not giving a shit about the budget hardware wars

>>58925447

good goy, buy more intel products!

I just upgraded my CPU to a 7600k but my computer won't POST.
My motherboard is a Z270-A PRO, and the CPU EZ Debug LED stays on.

Any ideas on what could be the problem?

Is it true that EVGA cards keep their warranty if you accidentally them while OC'ing?

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>>58937007
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8qBgpb

Here you go, Cheaper than a PS4 and just as powerful.

>>58928267

electrical tape works pretty well.

>>58932017

you're really not supposed to run your power supplies near their max.

i run a 1300 watt psu and never break 900 watts, but having the overhead is good.

>>58937304
>Well the 1070 will be overkill for years to come
Nope. It's going to be nothing but mediocre in a couple of years.

>>58937725

400 dollars mediocre just like the 770 was 400 dollars mediocre.

1070's will be $130-150 cards in 2019.

>>58937483
They can't prove it, so yeah.

I've done it, the entirety of my case fans are now Noctuas.

Is it worth to wait for Ryzen?

I've been putting of buying a new build ever since the price "leak". I'm beginning to have gaming withdrawals.

Am a cuck and newbie when it comes to building PC's and pc gaming in general, but will be in the market soon.
http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/BqXscf/excellent-gaming-build
Is this as good as they say it would be? I have the money to spend and I don't want to build a weak/cheap computer.

Built a new PC last year, and noticed the system clock (w7) drifts about 3 minutes too slow every month. Asrock board.

Did I get a faulty quartz crystal or something? Are there any other repercussions to that? I assume it's not the battery, or else the clock would be reset every boot, instead of just a bit off.

I also feel like it could just be time.windows.com being inconsistent.

>>58938152
Looks okay, though you could switch out the H100i for a capable air cooler and change the case out for something else.

how should I start for baby's first build? looking to make a tower that can run something as taxing as dark souls 3 at or over 60 fps or get close to 60 fps in gta. (if that helps to understand my goals.) where are good places to learn about parts? what all do i need? personal recommendations? i could probably blow about 1.5k on it, maybe a little more. not looking to overclock.

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Are my pins bent? I can't get my CPU to work and tried everything.

>>58938083
If you're looking to buy something fairly high-end, you'll definitely want to wait for ryzen. Early results show those chips beating far more expensive Intel ones, but wait for real post-release ones first of course. I haven't seen any benchmarks for the core chips yet, though.

>>58938343
Ready up those tweezers fuccboi.
>>58938306
Read the OP.

>>58938351
*4 core

>>58938152
if you are as bad as you say you are, chances are you won't be overclocking, so you can go with an h1(or 2)70 mobo, faster ram, and drop the k. put the money into a better case or watercooled 1070 idk.

it's fine as it stands, but it's up to you to optimize it for your wants and needs.

>>58938364
A lot of motherboards come with auto-OC.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4tpq7h

Wait for Ryzen?

This may belong in the /sqg/ but will the prices for skylake processors go higher due to intel (presumably) not producing any more after kaby lake?

>>58938354
>Ready up those tweezers fuccboi.
Which one is bent? The one on the left that looks wrong?

>>58938354
>>58938343
Dont bother with tweezers. RMA that shit immediately.

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>>58938443

>>58938395
seeing the recent leaks and the fact that Ryzen is right around the corner, I would say so if just to see how well it performs with extra cores and threads.

>>58938448
I've heard about Newegg denying RMAs when pins are bent, should I be worried?
If so, I think I'd be better off trying to fix it myself.

>>58938417
I'm not sure about that, but there will be skylake processors for quite a while, as there are still second gen processors on amazon.

>>58938395
If you're only really doing gaming, then you'll be fine with that build. Unless you need more processing power, that build will work fine.

>>58938448
He can't, bent CPU pins are immediate "It's your fault so pay for a replacement" with most retailers.

>>58938726
Ah ok. I just ask because some MSI 970 models have skyrocketed in price since the 10 series.

>>58938854
Should I try anyway?
Nothing to lose, I guess?

>>58931734
Shameless self bump. Decisions, decisions. Replace a few parts? Build entirely new rig?

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Do you guys think I can fin an aftermarket cooler in there?
Like a Cryorig M9i for example

>>58939271
You can fit most cheap air coolers in that space.

Can some toss together a quick PCPP top-tier (read: not ridiculous) non-gaming build?

can someone redpill me on ram?

do i want higher clock speed or lower latency/timing/etc?

>140 dollars
>3200
>15-16-16-35
>latency 15

>145 dollars
>3200
>16-18-18-38
>latency 15

which do i buy?

>>58939320
1070/7600k + Computer parts
$1000-1200

>>58939271
Something smaller, yeah. Single tower vertical coolers like the Hyper 212+ should fit. Wouldn't suggest trying a dual tower like the Noctua NH-D14.

>>58939333
2nd was supposed to be latency 16, my bad

>>58939333
Lower latency is good but higher frequency is more important
Ram prices are fucked because they rerelease the exact same shit every year to stay "updated" while keeping the exact same manufacturers of their ram

>>58939333
i can bogpill you on ram

let me give you a quick rundown

>ram speed and timing are, for the most part, not terribly performance impacting on modern systems
>you should get a reasonably stable, high speed RAM (I run DDR3-2400 personally, OCd from a 1600 kit) and then adjust timings as low as possible
>unless you're running an APU, performance gains will be minimal however

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>>58939336
So the cryrig will fit?I really concerned about ram

>>58939334
1070 for non-gaming. Why?

>>58939361
You know you can take off the fan and put it back on, right?

I'm looking to build a PC from bottom up. It wont be my first but I have been out of the loop for a few years now. I want a system that can run EVE on max settings that I can enjoy myself with for about a year and then retire as a home server. Should I stick to a AMD FX build or would that be overkill for a EVE/home server system? I'm also sort of at a loss as to what GPU to get, I was thinking the 700 nvidia series. Any input appreciated.

>>58939361
cryorig is pretty small

if you're concerned about RAM clearance, those types of coolers allow you to adjust the height of the fan

it'll fit

>>58939350
Ram speed is getting utilized more and more lately, and ram capacity needs seem to never stop rising
It's worth getting a step up from 2133mhz on a modern ddr4 system imo, programs that use lotsa ram see a noticable boost, and even games are seeing up to 5-10fps gains + better stability in the more shitty-optimized games, which seems to be many of them

>>58939382
productivity

>>58939394
nvidia 700 is very outdated and kinda shit at this point as far as price/performance goes

server CPUs and gaming CPUs are pretty different markets

How powerful do you want your home server to be? Power consumption, heat?

>>58939350
>>58939405

im building a computer for my gf to play witcher 3 on (in 4k), so its a pretty high end computer (7700k, gtx 1070, etc)

i already got all the parts but newegg sent me the wrong ram so now im considering ordering different one since i have the option

this was my original choice:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820232476

but then i found this

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232485&cm_re=g.skill_trident_z_rgb-_-20-232-485-_-Product

which seems to just be a higher end (lower timings, latency) version of the same ram

she's pretty deadset on the RGB tridentZ ram but im not sure if i can justify the 25+ price increase for lower lat/timings if she wont notice them

>>58939383
Yeah but as you can see theres not enough space in the back too
>>58939403
Thanks

>>58939414
Probably just run a basic FTP system on it. Nothing too straining I'd imagine.

>>58939420
But there is.

>>58939416
Yeah the lower timing is not worth that kind of money
Get the slightly less overpriced 3200mhz meme-lighted ram

>>58939361
You see those thumbscrews beneath the fan? They're the mounting holes for the heat sink, which means that no matter how you orient the heatsink or the fan, there will never be clearance issue with parts on the motherboard.

>>58939413
You are hurting my feelings.

>>58939423
"maxing EVE" and "running an FTP" are two pretty different performance markets

Why are you planning to retire it?

>>58939445
Yeah you are right thanks

>>58939445
wat
It just means you can mount it

>>58939457
I want to build a basic as fuck budget pc for the next year to hold me over before I drop too much money on a new PC meant purely for gaming and media.

I've been using the same shitty laptop for 5 years new and want a desktop again. It's been way too long.

To the anony that said the thermaltake Toughpower 750W 80PLUS Gold is worth it, ya it's nice and for $70 with mail in rebate.

>>58939473
Then why not build a basic FTP-oriented PC, drop a cheap GPU in it for playing Eve at lower settings, and then max EVE /later/?

Look into the Pentium series, Sandy Bridge core i5s/i7s, maybe a used Xeon or Opteron, maybe an 8-core FX, 16GB RAM (server use), and drop a giant HDD in it or four and maybe an RX480 or something with decent resale.

>>58939506
I looked up the recommended specs for EVE and a 480 seemed to be over kill for it. I only intend to play it on 1080 at 60fps. Would I really need to look into Xeon processors just for a home made FTP? I plan to store large amounts of media on it for transfer/stream at a later date.

>>58939464
I'm talking about the overall dimensions, dipshit. If the fan and heatsink aren't going past those thumbscrews, you're not going to have any clearance issue with the motherboard itself. That area around the heatsink mount can not have any components.

Am I fine just merely going off the parts recs on logicalincrements, or are there some older generation HW that functions arguably better than the modern stuff?

I also want to take into consideration freedom of choice in my build. I hear that the Intel processors and motherboard UEFI options have become a lot more restricted/biased towards Windows. Any credence to this?

Anyone fill me in on what's been going on in Hardware land? I've been out of it for a while.

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i5 4690k @ 4.2GHz / OC GTX 980 4GB SC / 32GB DDR3 RAM / 10TB JBOD / 5120x2160 21:9 @ 60Hz

>>58924886
H-how can I pull up this screen?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qTd8XH

what sort of games can i run with this? cooler/ram/psu all going to be improved in the next few weeks.

>>58939897

download speccy. it's a great program that tells you temps and the exact specifications of your hardware (well, most of it.)

>>58939865
>older generation HW that functions arguably better than the modern stuff?
Non-mainly-electronic parts, such as the HSF and case, are fine. Many older HSFs and cases are fine, and if you get them for cheap (since they are older models), they will be as good as (or better than) the similarly-priced modern stuff.

With everything else, newer is better.

>>58939960
I just see the Intel i5 2500K being praised a lot. Is that just a meme, or has that CPU stood the test of time? Basically that's what I'm asking.

Again, I'm a little worried about freedom of movement and choice should I choose to not exclusively run Windows.

is there a way to check if the parts i'm buying will fit in the case i'm looking at?

>>58940006
PCPartPicker

>>58930873
i have an OC'd 390 8gb running fine with a 650w psu
according to my kill-a-watt, under 100% utilization, the entire PC draws 386w
i7 6700k oc'd

>>58939980

your best bet isn't here. /g/ is full of noobs. look at toms hardware for a more educated opinion.

>>58940006

go on pcpartpicker and look at completed builds by case. those pictures will be able to show you what sort of clearance you're looking at for a graphics card or a cooler or a PSU.

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>>58940006
look at the height/length specifications on the page, they usually say what the max height of a cooler/length of a gpu can be

try searching the the Q&A section of page

or just >>58940015

>>58939980
The 2500K was a major upgrade over its predecessor. In fact, the ~$220 CPU had performance better than the $1000 CPU that came before it. Since then, each new generation of CPUs had only a small ~5% improvement, giving people no reason to upgrade.

But as a new purchaser, there is no point in getting older hardware with lower performance for the same price. The 2500K is outdated as a purchase.

>Again, I'm a little worried about freedom of movement and choice should I choose to not exclusively run Windows.
New CPUs will not work with older versions of Windows, or will give users a lot of trouble. I have not heard the same with Linux, so you should be fine.

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Right then, boys.
I've never had anything worth rating before. In any sort of rate thread, whether it be builds for games, audio setup, battlestations, or my computer until a while ago.

So fucking rate me.

>>58940032
>New CPUs will not work with older versions of Windows, or will give users a lot of trouble
Wait, how far back? Current Skylake and Kabylake should still work with Win7, right? Fuck, I mean if it comes down to, I won't mind Windows 8.1, but absolutely not fucking way in hell am I installing that garbage pile known as Windows 10.

Been a few years since I've upgraded. Did what I could on few hours of sleep. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vmd8XH
Drop price while maintaining ability to stream 1080p at 60fps is the goal. Oh and not to get fried in a storm of course.

>>58940049
>ITX GPU
>Full-size system
come on now.

>>58940048
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3167279/computers/amd-sorry-there-will-be-no-official-ryzen-drivers-for-windows-7.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3112663/software/microsoft-made-em-do-it-the-latest-kaby-lake-zen-chips-will-support-only-windows-10.html

Sorry mate.

>>58940072
FUCK. Ok, what about the Skylake and Haswell? Those still good for 7?

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How loud are those ITX GPUs?

>>58940049
What >>58940069
said and also
>Buying Windows 10
why?

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Going to use this build to game, render some 3d work, do some programming and virtualisation.

Anywhere where I can cut cost or improve?

>>58940088
Should be fine.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/11675/windows-7-windows-8-1-skylake-systems-supported

>>58940222
Ok, awesome. Guess I'll go with that. Glad I asked itt prior to making any decisions. I'm going to assume something similar applies to the GPU as well, so I'll look for that. Thanks

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dmG3jc

what sort of monitor should i get for this? just purchased the M.2, last piece of the puzzle.

>>58940278
1440p@144Hz

>>58940278

why do people waste so much money on that meme mobo

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hfq6m8

1080p@144Hz
or
1440p@60Hz

>>58940318
Looks.

Working with a higher-end mobo is nice too, but that can be had at $150.

>>58940338
GTX 1070 is wasted on a 1080p screen.

>>58940356

I was thinking the same, but will it do well with 1440p@144hz?

>>58940318

gamyur retards

Is it possible to do RAID with 2 PCIe SSD drives?

>>58940338

best deal for an ausfag

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/YZn2FT/benq-monitor-gw2765ht

>>58940367
It is a powerful card. Should max out most games that are not Witcher 3-tier.

>>58940397
Yes, but not a good idea.

>>58940397
I feel like I've been seeing tons of people have issues with this
Make sure it's been done before on your motherboard and work fully

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g7hPhq
is this good for a $400 gayman?

>>58940453
Very good, but does that mobo support Kabylake out of the box, without needing a BIOS update?

>>58940475
I'm building it for a friend and I can update the bios

>>58940487
It is fine, I checked the manufacturer site and it does.

>>58940496
oh even better

>>58940044
My heart.
Please.

>>58940400

ok cool thanks

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how is this brand?

How did I do on my build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GpGDqk

>>58940044
Stock or Aftermarket Cooler?

What is the best CPU, MB, and RAM I can get for a combined total of $250?

I already have a great gpu, case, psu, etc.

Or should I wait for ryzen to see if prices will drop.

>>58940917
Your ram choice depends on your motherboard
Your motherboard choice depends on your CPU
Getting a modern Intel CPU is an easy choice out of the options, but no matter which brand you get, a modern CPU will last you most of a decade

>>58940881
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GpGDqk
7700k is like $10 more for like 10% performance and I'm pretty sure its compatible

What's the best processor socket type for a mobo?

I want to build a rig soon but I also want to future-proof myself a little bit, im currently confined to FM2+ CPUS and that simply won't do.

>>58939869
>blank CDs

top fucking kek

>>58940892
Stock.
That was something I was thinking about changing.

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>>58924746
Do I out the thermal paste on the CPU before or after sticking it on the motherboard?

I hate my life with this PC. Intel Celeron J1900 which is the main issue. I added 4gb ram, bringing it to 8, maxing it. No GPU whatsoever. I want to reuse parts from it, but all I would be able to salvage is a power supply and HDD

>>58941529
idiot, thermal paste goes on the fan

can anyone reccomend a good micro atx case that supports a 240/280 radiator?

>>58941602
Corsair 350D, it was designed to accommodate big rads. That means it's not much smaller than a mid tower ATX case though.

>>58941621
makes sense that a company selling aio's makes cases for em, ty senpai

>>58941529
that thermal paste looks too liquidy, you need to thicken it with something

>>58941649
maple syrup

whats the difference between the Gigabyte Windforce and Gaming 1 cards?

Will the difference matter much for someone who doesn't manually overclock much?

>>58941738
If you're talking about 1060 or 1070, no difference other than 2c cooler under load and some LEDs.

>>58941792

oh yeah I was talking about the 1070 range

was also curious as to why the asus dual is so cheap

>bought a used hd7770 for $30
>check out reviews
>it's faster than gtx 650ti.
nvidia really age like milk. i guess i did alright for $30 and it's a factory overclocked 1.1GHz sapphire vapor x too.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Peanuts_/saved/wRkbvK

What can I improve on for a similar price?

>>58941853
PSU is not good.
Case is awful, find a nice matx case.

>>58941872
It's not a bad psu, it is silver

http://www.skycomp.com.au/asus-dual-gtx1070-o8g-geforce-gtx1070-gddr5-8gb-7680x4320-1x-dvi-2x-hdmi-2x-dp.html

http://www.umart.com.au/umart1/pro/Products-details.phtml?bid=11&sid=281170&id=10&id2=1

honestly which one is better for the price?

I'm leaning towards the gigabyte

>>58941898
Silver doesn't mean good. It's a poor quality platform.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/be-quiet-pure-power-9-600w-power-supply,review-33531-10.html

>>58941914
I have a 1060 windforce and have no complaints, very quiet and doesn't get hot.

>>58941914

http://thepcenthusiast.com/geforce-gtx-1070-compared-asus-evga-zotac-msi-gigabyte/

use that site for preferred speeds/size etc

>>58942034

this site gets a lot of shit wrong - I wouldn't go by it

>>58941986

I hear the 1070s have coil whine and get quite hot

>>58942128
my 1080 has coil whine

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>>58924746
>OP's pic
>letting a woman near a computer
>ever

Hi. After changing my GPU, I started experiencing problems with my SSD - mainly, from time to time I get BSOD and then upon restart, SSD is no longer found in the device list. But if I unplug the new GPU and switch it out with old one - all is fine and dandy again.
Any ideas?
Also sorry if sound retarded - don't know much about computers.

>>58941649
That's not thermal paste.

>>58941808
>>58941914
>>58942128

In my personal opinion the MSI Gaming X is the best 1070, followed by the Asus STRIX (which is more expensive). Too bad Zotax is impossible to find in Australia.

I hear the Asus Duals are cheap because they feel cheap and are quire loud. The Windforce is the same, and the G1's fans are flimsy for it's size.

Nobody ever do this.

>>>/v/367399274

>>58942793

christ /v/ is retarded

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hfq6m8

What monitor should I get when I buy the video card? Don't really want anything overpriced in Aus like a $900+ monitor.

What program do you guys use to control your fans speed?

>>58942793
idiot here. Whats wrong with this?

>>58940109
Don't actually have another software copy. Can't tell if emphasis is on 'buying' or 'windows 10'. Prefer 7 myself right now but times are a-changin.
>>58940069
In general I've been a fan of Gigabyte. Clearly I need to lurk more to understand the problem with ITX. Feel free to educate my error.

>>58943133


http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/mNBrxr/aoc-ag271qx-270-2560x1440-144hz-monitor-ag271qx

>>58943133

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/pHGj4D/asus-rog-swift-pg248q-240-180hz-monitor-rog-swift-pg248q

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01GCAVSIO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487084032&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=zotac+1080&dpPl=1&dpID=51kCS0qMoiL&ref=plSrch

This has to be a mistake, right? Would they be forced to follow through if I ordered one?

>>58943450


>GTX 1080
>1080p@60Hz

>>58943669
At least he'd have stable 60 kek

>>58943133
go for 240hz 1080p monitor, there's literally 2 on the market to choose from

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Which one do I fucking trust?
One is HWMonitor the other Gigabytes system information viewer.

>>58943736
Why would you need to trust either, just look at your fans and count

>>58943747
Count what?RPM?

any cheap(~70-100) ATX case for air advice?

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>>58943695

monitors are hard enough to find in australia without this bullshit

New thread

>>58944044
>>58944044
>>58944044
>>58944044
>>58944044

Vegaaaaaaaa Whennnnnnn