/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

You /fglt/s are making these threads too fast again

>>58908119
Is there any way to get stata on linux without having to buy the CD?

>>58908299
GNU/Linux*

>>58908376
GNU+Linux*

>>58908299
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:fc2322f4311bebf56e0378a641f9ebdc17d66d76&dn=Stata+12+%28Linux%2C+all+versions%29+-+FULL+INSTALL&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fpublic.popcorn-tracker.org%3A6969

you know how to use magnets right?

>>58908387
>>58908376
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.

One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?

(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.

>>58908387
GNU (with Linux added)*

>>58908376
>>58908387
sorry huns, i am running Ubuntu 16.04

Just switched about a month ago and the curve is somewhat steep but the gnome interface in particular is breddy ebin. Only thing I miss is some compatabiliy issues, such as stata

>>58908403
+GNU+Linux*

>>58908413
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6982330/Stata_12_%28Linux__all_versions%29_-_FULL_INSTALL

or run your windows version on WINE

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>>58908393
Unfortunately I cannot torrent anything.

What are some good distros to start with? I only have experience with Ubuntu

>>58908175
It was only 20 minutes, sperglord.

why doesn't this work?

$ mkdir foo bar
$ echo 'Hello, World!' > foo/hello.txt
$ ln -s foo/hello.txt bar/hello.txt
$ cat bar/hello.txt
cat: bar/hello.txt: No such file or directory

but this does?

$ mkdir foo
$ echo 'Hello, World!' > foo/hello.txt
$ ln -s foo/hello.txt hello.txt
$ cat hello.txt
Hello, World!

when do you need to use the --relative option or use the absolute path?

>>58908299
hmm if only there was a way to download illegal copies of commercial software, and maybe even a forum with a whole section for Linux software that was run by Russians, because Russians are the best race ever, the best IP pirates ever, and have a large and strong Linux user community.

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>>58908324
Make a keybind for a script that launches Spotify, sleeps for a second and then i3-msg moves it to the right workspace.

>>58908440
look again, /nglt/

>>58908454
Alternate workaround I just did that seems to work well enough:
for_window [class="Spotify"] move to workspace $workspace5
any reason to bother with a script instead?

>>58908429
Can you download from an ftp? I could torrent it and upload it to /g/ftp.

>>58908437
Devuan.

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>>58908413
>Ubuntu 16.04
>the curve is somewhat steep


although I guess if you use a retarded distro with a retarded community it's not going to help you understand anything

>>58908456
My bad, I though it was going fast but suddenly everybody just stopped posting.

>>58908449
GNU/Linux*

my asshole netctl start job keeps failing every time I start up my system so I have to manually unfuck it to get my wifi working

anyone experience this before? what do. it works perfectly fine on my thinkpad but not on this computer

>>58908465
Th-that'd be nice
>>58908473
Rude. Apologize.
>>58908449
i wouldn't know

>>58908473
Other anon here. I started linux 8 years ago. I always love those idiots bitching 'bout the choice of distro. Not that I am calling you an idiot...

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https://fosdem.org/2017/news/2017-02-05-important-security-notice/

your yfw when dumb groupies got pwned

When will you grow out of Arch and Gentoo memes?

>>58908501
You didn't start Linux, Torvalds did.

>>58908532
when the average age of /g/ is over 18

>>58908497
Ok, let me put it on my seedbox.

>>58908561
>seedbox
what's that?

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>>58908443
>when do you need to use the --relative option or use the absolute path?
you just answered your own question. ln by default does not rewrite the target to be relative to the link

>>58908487
***GNLinuxU*//***

>>58908571
a little computer I use for torrenting, a server

>>58908571
it's basically a cheap VPS pre set up for torrenting things, from a provider who's prepared to thumb their nose at DMCA notices and such.

>>58908585
>>58908592
i see, so this is what people are using stuff like rasberries for?

>>58908543
I accidentally don't like people bitching about things that could have been said in a more specific way but are totally clear either way.

Stop bitching and talk about GNU+Linux

How does one create a script?
The programme I am attempting to install instructs the following script to be created:

(programme location) -Wl,-r185,-p187 -f$1.blahblahblah$2 \
-r$1 -L/usr/blahblahblah/
rm -f tempfn

>>58908579

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    N         N         N
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      /       /       /
       L      L      L
        i     i     i
         n    n    n
          u   u   u
           x  x  x
            * * *
             ***
***GNU/Linux*****xuniL/UNG***
             ***
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          u   u   u
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So, what terminal are you guys using. Pls respond. URxvt here.

>>58908636
The best.

>>58908636

termite

So, what distro are you guys using. Pls respond. Arch here.

>>58908669

Killyourselfbuntu

>>58908669
The best.

So, what ethnicity are you guys using. Pls respond. Slav here.

>>58908501
I started using Linux 15 years ago. No distro will make it impossible for you to learn basic Linux fundamentals or "proper" use, and no distro will make you learn that shit automatically. That said, there are certain distros that discourage it, or make it more difficult, or add so much useless crap on top of it that it either inhibits the learning process or makes you learn things the wrong way. And having a retarded or autistic user community doesn't help either.
I was just taken aback because Ubuntu is supposed to be one of those "it's so easy and everything just werqs" distros where you can use it without having to learn anything. Of course, that whole premise doesn't work at all.

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>>58908669
My desktop runs Mint because I am not autistic. My test servers run ubuntu and fedora.

>>58908703
>Mint
Why don't you like security

>>58908715
he said he isn't autisic

>>58908715
if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide

>>58908609
Half an hour to download the torrent and I'll upload it to the ftp.

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>>58908669
yfw you install Slackware and realize what it's like to finally have a good OS on your computer

>>58908726
criminals don't care if you're doing anything wrong or not anon

>>58908731
Slackware is even more autistic than Arch and Gentoo. It's literally one level before switching to BSD.

>>58908734
they have to obey laws. america should criminalize encryptions.

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>>58908684
CYKA БЛЯДЬ

>>58908741
delete system 32

>>58908625
what?

>>58908625
pls respond

>>58908756
don't bully the noobs faggot
they'll turn 360° and walk away from linux

>>58908731
I am trying it and on this page. The first step of the installation is like Gentoo?

>>58908702
Almost no beginner should go debian netinstall or arch. No beginner distro discourages anything. And yes, they indeed do werk ootb.

For people who just want a working non ms or apple pc, a beginner linux distro is perfect and may encourage them to dig deeper, use the shell and hack a script.

For people interested in linux, wanting to learn more, a beginner distro is perfect because they ARE beginners, the distro WILL WORK and they CAN slowly adapt to the env.

Just because you did not have a beginner distro because non existed, that does not mean that you need to FUCKING BITCH about distro choice.

And btw "basic linux fundamentals" and "proper" use? Are you stupid? You are replying on a reply to a reply to someone who claims to like Gnome.

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>>58908748

>>58908777
>>58908781

GNU/Linux*

>>58908715
>Mint isn't secure

Explain yourself.

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>>58908779
forgot pic

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>>58908756
I thought this was the friendly Linux thread

>>58908791
they have a blacklist for vital system packages like linux, systemd, xorg, dbus, etc
these packages don't get any updates/security fixes, unless the user enables them (and may end up with an unstable system)

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Mint uses deprecated NSA/openssl. I wouldn't do anything important on it.

>>58908811
GNU/Linux

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It sort of simply works

>>58908841
dafuq is with your background?

>>58908727
that guy is not me

>>58908858
Desktop wallpaper leaking through due to partial transparency.

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>>58908731
Are you still here? So far looks nice.

>>58908739
>more autistic than Arch
>no systemd
>no bleeding edge
>installer
>you can easily rollback packages
>you can easily merge new versions of config files your old modified ones
>comes with tons of actually useful software

>more autistic than Gentoo
>binary packages

riiiiiiiiight

>>58908779
If by that you mean downloading the installation DVD image, then yes.
Or if you mean booting into the installation environment and partitioning your disk(s) using fdisk/cfdisk, then yes.
Other than that, I doubt it. I've never installed Gentoo. Slackware is my first and last distro.
I know that Gentoo has to compile everything while Slackware just installs binary packages from the installation media, or from a local directory, or from an http/ftp mirror. Then it lets you configure most of the basic system stuff using curses dialogs. Then you reboot, log in as root, useradd yourself, uncomment the commented-out timeserver lines in /etc/ntp.conf, visudo to uncomment out the line that enables the wheel group, open /etc/slackpkg/mirrors to uncomment either the 14.2 or the -current mirrors.slackware.com, and then you're pretty much done unless you need stuff that wasn't included in the full distro, like a DE that isn't KDE or XFCE, or a WM that isn't fluxbox or windowmaker, or a browser that isn't firefox, or /g/-approved memeware like ranger or sxiv or mpd or mpv, or 32-bit compatibility packages for your 64-bit system

>>58908896
man, that damage control is intense.

>>58908885
It's really really comfy. If you want to do a straight network installation of the -current tree, when you get to SOURCE select the http/ftp option and use
http://mirrors.slackware.com
as hostname and
slackware/slackware64-current/slackware64
as location

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>>58908912
no u

>>58908896
Only the first part, partitioning, everything else is different.

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>>58908785

retard question here
what's the difference between
package-name and package-name-git ? i see it a lot in the aur.

>>58908953
I assume -git is even more bleeding edge than the regular version because it pulls source directly from the git tree instead of snapshots?

>>58908923
how do i make a bash script wait for a command that runs something else?
to explain;

launcher -argument value
wait $!

waits for "launcher", but "launcher" quits as soon as it launches the thing i actually want to wait for

>>58908953
>>58908972
yep, "package-name" is typically the latest named release, while "package-name-git" (or -svn, -hg, etc) are generated from the latest available developmental sources
understand they are not tested releases, and may not work properly

>>58908988
didn't mean to quote

How do you make a script for batch use?

>>58908988
you need to explain better or provide a better example. if you have a bash script that launches a program, it won't finish until the program finishes unless you launched the program as a background process

>>58908921
I would be interested to hear your impressions of Slackware compared to whatever distros you have used in the past/use now, and/or compared to the impression of Slackware you had from memes that people shitpost about it. It was my first distro so in every distro I tried later, all I noticed were good things they lacked or bad things they added or ways they were not as convenient, etc.

>>58909040

wine 'c:\sse\sselauncher.exe' -appid 8980

is the specific launcher in question, "smart steam emulator"
it launched steam games without steam (i do own the game, but this is faster and uses less resources compared to running steam)

>>58908988
launcher -argument value && faggot

>>58909078
does the same

Why doesn't at(1) automatically remove jobs after they're finished? I always need to run atrm <jobnum> to cleanup.

>>58908988
>>58909083
program 1 && sleep 2s && program 2

>>58909083
then be more specific please
maybe write pseudo code

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>bill gates has announced he will buy linux for $420 million
>mfw

>>58909091
sselauncher.exe launches the game, and quits immediately after
i wait to wait for the game to exit

>>58909077
I'm guessing that sselauncher.exe terminates as soon as it launches your game. This happens for a lot of wine programs. One way to check that this is the case - launch that in a terminal, then once the game launches try to hit enter a few times in that terminal and you should be back in your bash prompt, even though wine errors/diagnostic messages will still get written to the console

if that's the case, not sure what the best way to go about doing what you want would be.

>>58909068
So far if it wasn't for the initial partitioning I would say is perfect for newbies.

I heard a lot of memes around here telling Slackware was overcomplicated. But installation isn't over, plus I have to try the package management too.

>.exe

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>>58909102
>buy linux
it doesnt fuckng work trhat way

>>58909123
trolled hard

>>58909123
i bought a dvd set of fedora core 5 once, back when it made more sense to do that than spend days downloading it over dialup

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>>58909102
>page 2:

> open source: linux source code leaked; linux foundation bankrupt

> surveillence: mozilla firefox sends your ip to every site you visit

>>58909123
technically it works, he could by the trademark and the copyright for linux, but it wouldn't make much sense since

>>58909123
He took the b8

>>58909113
package management is an absolute breeze with slackpkg+ and sbopkg
a distro whose primary design philosophy is KISS cannot possibly be overcomplicated
considering the fact that things like partitioning are not super complicated and easy to grasp and something that is required knowledge for any kind of OS, I think it's still perfect for newbies, especially ones that want to stop being newbies.
I heard it said that if you use $DISTRO, you will learn how to use $DISTRO, but if you use Slackware, you learn how to use Linux.

>>58909175
GNU/Linux*

>>58909163
wouldn't change anything, since it can just be forked and renamed

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>>58909182
Can you un-FOSS something?

>>58909208
sure, but versions up until that change will remain foss
take for example, ZFS, it started off foss, then oracle bought sun and closed it off
the foss fork openzfs was based on the latest foss version

>>58909208
depends on the license. GPL says you're not allowed to redistribute derivative works using an incompatible license, BSD says you can do whatever you want as long as you give attribution (I think)

>>58909224
>>58909246
>unironically responding
...

>>58909278
looks like a reasonable question to me

>>58909110

wine 'c:\sse\sselauncher.exe' -appid 8980
sleep 10
while true; do
    if [ -n "$(pgrep Borderlands.exe)" ]; then
        sleep 10
    else
        break
    fi
done

this'll have to do for now
wait a moment for the game to start, then wait for the games' process name to disappear, effectively

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>>58908497
Guy wanting the Strata, here it is ftp://joelixny.ddns.net/SOFTWARE%20MOTHERFUCKER/Stata12_Linux.zip

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boot up arch on my memepad, pacaur -Syu

mpv doesn't work

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/52926
rebooted back to gentoo

what a meme distro

I do actual work on my computer. Is there a stable way to run things like Photoshop and Illustrator in a virtual machine or under Wine?

>>58909572
We have superior things like GIMP and Blender.

>>58909583
>Blender is superior to Illustrator

And here I thought it was for 3D modeling.

>>58909572
VM, yes. Wine, I don't think so.

So I have decided to install gentoo finally on my main machine since I fucked up debian by upgrading it to testing and mysql broke, so I wanted to go down.

But regardless of that, I'm following a video, but I wish to know if I download the 600MB iso instead of the mini netinstall one, will I have to download these packages manually? Is there an easier way to get these instead of downloading them one by one and unzipping them? Which video do you guys suggest?

I'm watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJwwcw56d6c

>>58909594
Which is better for that, VMware or Virtualbox? Or does it really matter.

>>58909610
Just use the Gentoo Installation Handbook

>>58909678
Just follow this? https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64
Damn, I was trying to get it in a VM, but small as fuck space. I guess might aswell just install it on my laptop and see how that goes.

>>58909658
no idea. i don't really vm anymore and when i did i used virtualbox because there were no vmware packages for my distro anyway

>>58909610
any particular reason you chose gentoo over slackware? the installation is much more straightforward and you will rarely need to compile your own packages, otherwise most of the benefits (vanilla packages, stability, simplicity, ease of use, ease of custom builds, etc.) are the same

>>58909610
1. Use systemrescuecd
2. That video is old as fuck
3. Follow the Handbook

After you setup your partitions and some general configurations, you chroot into the new Gentoo root and download and extract the stage3 tarball. The tarball contains an almost usable base system that only needs some slight configuration and extra packages. So no, you don't have to install everything although you do have to install xorg-server, video drivers, desktop environment etc.

>>58909751
At first I was thinking of either getting blackarch or backbox. But then decided might aswell get these in a VM.

I just wanna have an OS running and easy to maintain to do my work.

Should I just go back to Debain or something?

>>58909694
What 600MB iso are you referring to? I only see a 200MB minimal install and a 2GB liveCD
At least those are the sizes reported on the download page: https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/

I don't understand what you mean that you can't do it on a VM now due to space limitations. A gentoo installation is a gentoo isntallation. It'll take up roughtly the same amount of disk space no matter which method you use to install it.
I'm not sure I'm following your dilemma at all

>>58909775
Slackware is much easier than Debian to maintain, from my experience. Although it's been years since I've had to work with Debian, maybe they finally improved something.
If you understand what partitions are and what system services are and are not afraid of using the command line for things like creating user accounts or uncommenting appropriate lines in config files or reading man pages, you will find Slackware very simple and it works OOTB with very little post-install configuration and it comes with pretty much all software you need for basic use.

>>58909789
Oh nevermind I was trying something else before that.

Does the 2GB liveCD include all these packages like the system and other tools?

When I was extracting and copying portage to /usr it started saying "no space" I think I messed up the partition, but I don't know.

>>58909758
Wait, why use systemrescuecd? Install it like that one webm compilation some Anon made?

>>58909825
I've wanted to try Slackware for years, you think might aswell try Slackware for a couple of more years before trying Gentoo?

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https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/SystemUpdates/

wait, wtf?

>>58909775
Debian had really bad firmware support in my experience. An ethernet install was the only thing that made sure basic stuff like display brightness and audio related keyboard shortcuts weren't broken.
After switching to OpenSUSE I think i'm finally home. Distrohopping was a mistake.

>>58909775
for example
>I fucked up debian by upgrading it to testing and mysql broke
will pretty much never happen to you on Slackware
in rare cases when you do accidentally upgrade a package and it fucks up your shit or forces you to do a whole lot of upgrades/recompilations and you don't want to spend time fixing it now because you have work to do, you can just easily rollback by "upgrading" back to your old version and then take care of it later

>>58909840
If you use it for a couple years, or even a couple months, I don't think you'd want to try Gentoo. I've used it for 15 years and I've thought about Gentoo for about a year and a half but I don't think I would gain anything except having to wait much longer for packages to install/upgrade

I'm learning to install gentoo. I'm not dualbooting...

On the gentoo handbook here the guide explains how to design your partitions and filesystems for /dev/sda2, 3, & 4.

But what about 1? What file system do i put on /dev/sda1, also known as boot.

I would think mkfs.vfat simply because that's what's usually used for boot situations but idk

>>58909860
I mean I love Debian, but there were times that I couldn't get some programs because it wasn't in the stable package manager which I hated about it.

>>58909882
Yea holy shit I tried going back to the stable version by commenting out testing and putting the other one back, it didn't do shit. I tried downloading mysql-server again but it wasn't found.

Hmm. I guess Gentoo is more of a server related OS then? Like. But will Slackware be good for work? I mean, I usually use a package manager, does it have one? Also, does it have everything in it?

>>58909840
>Does the 2GB liveCD include all these packages like the system and other tools?
I've never used it but it should. Look at the date though:
>2016-07-04
Gentoo is a rolling release distro, so there is no logical "version" of gentoo to build liveCD's off of. They just make them every once in a while.

>>58909910
Hand book here

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Disks#Default:_Using_parted_to_partition_the_disk

>>58909840
>When I was extracting and copying portage to /usr
That's because you're a retard and didn't follow the Handbook

>Wait, why use systemrescuecd?
Because it supports UEFI and plethora of systems, has a lightweight desktop environment, web browser etc. while still being relatively small size

>>58909860
Niggers don't know about firmware-testing-amd64-netinst.iso

>>58909910
It recommends you to make a BIOS boot partition to sda1 but that's some legacy shit. If you've got UEFI you only need /boot (mkfs.fat F32 /dev/sda1) and / (root, mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda2). And maybe swap if you're low on memory although you can make a swap file

I know openSUSE's website advises against upgrading from one Leap version to the next, recommending just doing an install via a DVD, but is it really that bad/difficult?

>>58909915
Debian has the best aesthetics, which is why I used it for a while, but I can't stand when developers are communist about non-free drivers.

>>58909910
The default way explained in the guide is to not use UEFI, so GRUB gets its own partition /dev/sda1
and it is left unformatted.
You just need to make sure it has the bios_grub boot flag set which you should if you're following the example commands
>(parted)set 1 bios_grub on

>>58909948
Sorry, that should be mkfs.fat -F32 /dev/sda1

>>58909948
Yeah totally retarded, I was watching the video.

>>58909953
>aesthetics
every distro can look like you want it to, retard
>communist
i don't think you know what you're talking about, retard

>>58909978
Not everyone has time to fuck with xorg.conf, Linus.

>>58910000
>reply something completly unrelated
confirmed retard

>>58910009
eat shit Arch babby

>>58909915
It has an incredibly comfy package manager for downloading binary packages from the official and third-party repos, and an incredibly comfy build manager for things you want to build (with custom included dependencies or whatever). It is very simple to use and it doesn't try to do too much

there's also a third-party package manager called slapt-get which tried to be a clone of apt-get which might be comfy for you if you come from Debian, but I have no idea if it runs into the same problems with dependency hell. I look at the whole "not forcing dependencies" thing as a positive feature, but if you like that you can use it

I don't think either Gentoo or Slackware are server vs. desktop oriented, I've used Slackware for desktops and servers and dual-purpose machines. Again, the only real difference as far as I can tell is that Gentoo you have to compile everything and Slackware you have to compile only what you want to or what nobody else provides.

>Also, does it have everything in it?
The official "full" distro includes dev tools for almost all languages (except gay shit like Mono), vim, emacs, KDE, Xfce, blackbox/fluxbox, windowmaker, firefox, thunderbird, gimp, mc, apache, vsftp, mplayer, audacious, i.e. a lot of stuff, 7-8GB of software if you do a complete install, pretty much everything an average user might need including programming stuff and servers. There are third-party builds for MATE, Cinnamon, KDE5, LibreOffice, wine, mpd (and practically all clients), mpv, all your memelicious window managers, image viewers, browsers, editors, etc.

It's obviously going to take a bit experimenting and reading config files to uncomment the appropriate lines, but once you get over that hump it is one of the most convenient systems as far as maintenance goes

>>58909954
Wait a second so if I'm using UEFI, I can just straight up not create a grub partition?

Also how would I know if I'm using a uefi vs a bios motherboard? Or can both be supported by a mobo? I'm using a motherboard for a modern cpu built in 2013...an A78FM2-DH3 from Gigabyte.
It's got a colorful boot set up with all sorts of options to alter shit so I figured "well hey, I must have a UEFI" because the last bios-based mobo I had was all black and white.

Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question. I wanted to learn more about technology and I'm not a "learn by the numbers" guy. I wanna just get roasted by linux for a while until I get the hang of it.

>>58909858
... but why?

>>58910068
>Wait a second so if I'm using UEFI, I can just straight up not create a grub partition?
Right. But I'm not the best person to ask about this stuff.

The one time I tried to do UEFI it didn't work and I just went back to the old way with a GRUB partition.

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>>58910073
Lennart-kun wants to reboot your SystemDOS. Reboot (twice) now or postpone for 10 minutes?

>>58910057
Oh nice, I remember installing slackware on a VM a long time ago trying it out so I don't think I'll have a problem doing it now.

Also, I think Gentoo is useful when you're in a company that wants their computers to do certain specific things, thus, having it do whatever you want it to which requires a lot of manual work. I don't have time for that, I have to write lab reports and program.

I used to have some scripts in Debian to make my T400 stop beeping every damn time, I HOPE I can remember where these were and I HOPE that slackware can run these. They were like a server-like scripts that disabled the beeper, but I can't remember where I put em. Maybe it was in /etc/

how do I make rofi transparent? it refuses to be transparent, even with compton running.

>>58910124
every what time? I was annoyed when my X200/T410 would beep when the AC was plugged in/out, and that was a BIOS setting. on a related note, you can trigger the different beep patterns manually by writing to /proc/acpi/ibm/beep

>>58910191
My T400 didn't have a BIOS option for the beeper so I looked around and someone had a beeping daemon script.

Maybe I'll look into it after installing Slackware.

What was the difference between Primary and Extended partitions?

https://start.ubuntu-mate.org/
http://start.ubuntu.com/

whats the point?

>>58910252
primary partitions exist directly on a disk and you can only have four of them. extended partitions exist within primary partitions and you can have some larger number of them, don't remember off the top of my head

>>58910291
Botnet

Should I use UNetBootin or

 sudo dd bs=512M if=file.iso of=/dev/sdX 

?

>tfw ubuntu has a special editon with stuff like "Access to the knowledge base", "24/7 telephone and online support portal"
https://buy.ubuntu.com/

RHEL on suicide watch

>>58910339
sudo cp file.iso /dev/sdb
:^)

>>58910389
Doesn't that just copy it?

Arch user here. Really enjoying Pacman, rolling release, and how light the install is.
Someone convince me to try Gentoo or slackware.

>>58910461
dd "just copies it" too

>>58910483
>light
nice meme

>>58910483
Forgot to add: I'm on Arch, btw.

>>58910492
O wew
>https://www.blackarch.org/downloads.html

>Do not use UNetBootIn to write ISO files to flashdrives. UNetBootIn modifies the bootloader configuration, which is bad. You can use this instead (where /dev/sdX is your flashdrive and file.iso is a BlackArch ISO):

>>58910493
??? Doesn't the base install have literally the bare minimum for a functioning CLI?

>>58910483
i'd rather not have archbabbies lowering the quality of our user base

>>58910516
The base, not the repos. Arch doesn't split packages doe to simplicity so you end up even heavier than Ubuntu, when you're finished setting it up.

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>58910551
Any of the Ubuntu flavours (xubuntu, kubuntu etc). Debian.

>>58910551
xubuntu

- easy to install
- decent speed
- minimalistic interface
- comfy when you rice it I guess

>>58910551
>ubuntu
>lightweight

>>58910551
tinycore

Is it "lee-bruh" or "leebur"? Or maybe "lee-bray"?

>>58910624
libre?

i pronounce it "lib-ray"

>>58910551
Lubuntu, that's what I use it for. Been using it for 8 months, and haven't looked back since.

>>58910624
leebreh

>>58910624
luh-bree or rhoo-bree
depends on which mountain the speaker is from

>>58910624
Lie-bur

kek, finally something useful you can do with "yes" >>58910470

>>58910710
Try this:

yes "beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep" | aplay

>>58910747
Remove some e's for higher tones, add some for lower.

Linux newbie here.

ctrl + alt + t opens terminal

How do I open CURRENT working directory w/ terminal??


Would be much more efficient. And how do I SET A HOTKEY shortcut for it?

>>58910000

>aesthetics is related to X and its config files
What an idiot you are. This is the average poster on here. Retards who post about things they have no real knowledge of in a very cocky way.

>>58910802
What "CURRENT" directory are you referring to?
You can set a default directory by adding a simple

 cd ~/Porn

to your ~/.bashrc

>>58910112
>>58910073

Instead of making up your own retarded conclusions and outing yourself as a retard, I suggest you read the page and see what it actually does.
Kill yourself for having no own thoughts and just parroting idiotic assumptions you heard from others to appear smart and knowledgable about a topic to make yourself feel better.

>>58908636
Terminator

>>58910217
>>58910124

>scripts
Just blacklist the pcspkr module. Why do you people always complicate things?
How can you people offer "advanced" advice and talk about "advanced" things, but not able to do something as simple as that or use a search engine?

>>58910802

>ctrl + alt + t opens terminal
It opens it in your desktop environment. No one knows what it looks like and how it behaves.

>And how do I SET A HOTKEY shortcut for it?
Again, no one knows what you're running and no one can help you like that.

>>58910854
I say script because I don't remember what it was, but I remember it had something to do with pcspkr, so I guess it was a blacklist.

Though, how do you do that? I'm not sure what I did.

>>58910802
this depends entirely on your WM/DE/file browser
I use ranger so I just have to press S to go into a shell, and I have my fiuxbox keys file set up to launch my terminal emulator with Alt-F1 or Super-F1 to launch it in superuser mode. On my netbook with dwm I launch terminals with Shift-Super-Enter. When I use mc, Ctrl-O switches to a shell in the current directory. I have "spawn" defined as an alias that launches another terminal from a terminal and disowns it so that it doesn't depend on the first one anymore. I doubt any of these applies to you.

>>58910841
i did read the page, actually

>>58910870
make a .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d with the contents
blacklist pcspkr

>>58910888
Oh nice, I'll try it out when I get slackware installed.

On my x201 memepad the hw acceleration won't werk on mpv. Any example for working config?

>>58910870

>how do you do that
Took me 4 seconds to find out how using my search engine of choice. If you failed to do that I doubt you'll be able to install Slackware.

>>58910937
I already finished installing it therefore your post was a waste.

>>58910924

>calling it memepad
>not posting error messages or logs
>not posting additional useful information like your current config and what you tried

I wouldn't help you even if I knew how to.

>>58910947

Installing it is pressing a few buttons. Good luck using it. Good luck using anything when you need to be spoonfed solutions even to the tiniest problems.

>>58910937
I don't get this >lmgtfy meme. Why do people ITT send others to google etc? Maybe people want to hear opinions of /g/ instead opinions from some random "linux" blogs?

>>58910987

Because only a retard would spend time asking a question on here, waiting minutes at best and hoping for an answer instead of taking 5 seconds to look for it online and find a working solution. Only an even bigger retard would help such people. Look up help vampires.

>>58911002
whats wrong with helping retards?
especially retards deserve help.

>>58911002
You're the retard here Anon, the guy wanted to see something done in another way another anon did, and the anon providing the answer was probably proud of the way he did it anyway.

You're just wasting your time here. Stop sperging out.

>>58908669
KDE Neon

>>58910564
Yeah just a thing. Use KDE Neon instead of Kubuntu. Way better. Less bugs.

So I installed kubuntu, and upon rebooting the volume control disappeared from the system tray and audio is not working anymore. Thenks linux.

>>58912144
Install Gentoo

>>58912144
GNU/Linux*

>Buy dev team
>Take Linux kernel
>Build the best OS
>Make it proprietary

There I just bought Linux

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>2017
>using linux
>not using reactos

>>58912144
Kubuntu is ded. Use KDE Neon instead.

>>58912273
>get sued

How good is HardenedBSD?

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I'm trying to clone my HDD to another
Should I do this

dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb -bs 4M

Or do this

cat /dev/hda > /dev/hdb

>>58912355
I would use partimage or clonezilla to clone the entire disk: faster, smarter and less chances of errors.

>>58912355
Whatever floats your boat. cp also works. Use pv for a nice progress bar.

>>58912273
>Buy dev team

There isn't a "dev team" for Linux there's literally thousands of contributors, unless you mean the core people like Linus and GKH.

>make it proprietary

You can't do that because of the license.

>>58912371
When you own the copyright you can change the license.

>>58912369
>partimage or clonezilla
Would this allow me to simply swap the HDDs with each other?

>>58912381
Except you wouldn't own the copyright? Only to the Linux name, which Linus owns.

>>58912381
kek, you would have to get permission from every person who has code in the kernel which is thousands and thousands of freetards. You think they'll let you change the license? You wouldn't have any code to work with

>>58912371
How come android is propreitary then?

>>58912423
Android isn't "proprietary" is has some proprietary components but most of it is open-source, and more importantly the thing we are talking about, the kernel, is open-source.

https://source.android.com/source/index.html

>>58912392
yes, at worst you will have to update the devices/partition names in your bootloader and fstab depending if your are using UUIDs or partition "paths" (like /dev/sdx..). But this it also true for the dd method.

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>>58912423
Android is open source, there are two separate licenses for the kernel and system itself (like said, they can't change linux's license).

>>58912448
Why would I need to do that if the MBR is being copied as well?

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Oh, hey I've noticed something strange
Sometimes, when I try to save a file on Firefox, the gtk file picker doesn't load the folders and files in its current directory at all, or it's super slow without letting me to click anything
I've checked the logs on journalctl, and this appears when everything works fine:

Feb 12 13:58:10 MerryBlue dbus[345]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.hostname1' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service'
Feb 12 13:58:10 MerryBlue systemd[1]: Starting Hostname Service...
Feb 12 13:58:10 MerryBlue dbus[345]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.hostname1'
Feb 12 13:58:10 MerryBlue systemd[1]: Started Hostname Service.

But when the file picker doesn't load the folders & files, there are no logs
Does anyone know anything about this?

>>58912470
You don't need to do anything if you clone everything, I was only saying what is the worst that could happen in case something doesn't go as expected.

>>58912633
I see.
Thanks.
What if I want to clone HDD frequently or update the content?
Say on weekly bases, all these applications do almost the same thing, which is copying the unallocated space as well, which takes a long time to clone.
Any idea to bypass that?

>>58912337
Thats what I did and it broke right after installation. Back to windows I guess.

Im trying to rebuild my grub.cfg using grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, but every time it picks up my theme line as "Permission Denied"

Im running it as root, no clue why its doing this to me

Any suggestions?

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Regarding building package from source...

1. Can you build packages for other OS from the same source code if you're running different OS?

2.How do you only build a package without installing it, meaning just generate the package that the package manger uses.

3. How do you install a package, and make it so it can be still managed by the package manger?

How can I see all of the available XKBOPTIONS?

>>58912479
partclone shouldn't copy unallocated space.

If you are doing periodic backups of your system then you have several solutions;
If I got it right, you need to have a backup disk you can immediately replace, so backing up to a (optionally compressed) imagefile of the original disk is not an option for you.
If you don't plan to change the disk partitioning often, then one back will differ from the others only for the content of the filesystem.
In this case, once you have cloned your disk with your favorite tool, you can keep the filesystems synced with a tool like rsync (https://rsync.samba.org/), which you can use to perform an incremental backup (i.e. check the differences between original and backup disk files, and copy only what has changed).
This will be very fast and save you a lot of time (just remember to exclude temporary folders like /dev/ or /sys/ and externally mounted filesystem like usb drives and the backup disk itself when you start the sync)

>>58912947
quoted wrong post
>>58912794

>>58912794
probably a permission issue.
I ran into similar problems when trying to

Does the grub theme file/directory match the other?

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so, I installed linux for the first time (Debian), did a Testing upgrade like some anons told me to do so, and installed i3 and Kde.I can't find a way to activate i3, it seems that the "Default applications" is no longer in there

Send help

>>58912969
Yeah, completely

Freenas or debian for a home server?

Mainly just streaming video to my tv/laptop and downloading torrents. maybe with a feature to access remotely to backup photos on my phone and whanot.

>>58913024
Logout and change the session in LightDM you dumbass.

>did a Testing upgrade like some anons told me to do
You got memed kid.
Debian is only good on stable.
If you wanted testing you should've installed *buntu

>>58913037
Well, with debian you will have to set up all those features yourself.


With FreeNAS you get the complete package during the installation.
Without quoting any technical differences I'd say go with FreeNAS

>>58913037
It sounds like you want a general purpose operating system, not a deditated dumb appliance. So Debian Testing or Ubuntu Server.

>>58913038
thanks anon

doesnt debian testing have the newest packages or whatever you guys call them?

What group should my files in my /home directrory belong to? I just noticed they have some weird group attached to most of them (the name of a test user I set up). Should they just be my username or 'users'?

>>58913037
freenas is gud if you don't care what bittorrent client it has. I always end up using my onsite servers as headless desktops, so you may find GNU/Linux more useful than that bsd whatever.

>>58912916

localectl

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Halp.

>>58912887
>1. Can you build packages for other OS from the same source code if you're running different OS?
if they are running the same architecture and same kernel (i.e. you can't compile on linux stuff for windows) then generally yes, but in some cases you may have problems with linked libraries in the "target" OS if they differ too much (version mismatch, "accidental" linking, etc..)

2.How do you only build a package without installing it, meaning just generate the package that the package manger uses.
you are confusing two different things, you can compile a software and install it in your system using some automated script (running "make install" for example, which will copy any file to the sedired destination).
Distros prefer leaving the work of managing files in the filesystem to package managers (mostly to avoid accidentally breaking the system, a lot of thing are assumed when you run something like "make install").

Generally a "package" is a compressed archive containing the compiled software organized in the "correct" subfolders plus various metadata (pkg name, version, required dependencies, various package manager specific information..) for the package manager.

3. How do you install a package, and make it so it can be still managed by the package manger?
You have to create a package for your distro and tell the package manager to install it. The procedure differ form a package manager to the other, and the standards to follow (e.g. the "correct" folder where to place certain libs, etc...) may differ from a distro and the other as well.
You will surely find a guide explaining how to make packages for your distro in your distro's wiki.

>>58913089
Testing normally has quite fresh packages except when it's in a freeze (like now, I think). There are other drawbacks too, testing doesn't get timely security updates. Unstable ("sid") actually has very fresh packages and usually gets security updates ASAP but it can be unstable (whoa, who wudda known).

Debian is a bit weird like that

>>58913174
your sda1 drive might be dead.
check if it works on another system
if it doesn't your drive is kill, if it does then your OS is doing whack shit

Why do I get this when I launch cantata?

cantata
QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
QSqlDatabase: QSQLITE driver not loaded
QSqlDatabase: available drivers: QMYSQL3 QMYSQL
KCrash: Application 'cantata' crashing...
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit
KCrash: Connect sock_file=/home/alex/.kde/socket-hyperion/kdeinit4__0
Unable to start Dr. Konqi
Not forwarding the crash to Apport.

>>58913089
Debian has three branches
>stable which is the one you're supposed to use
>testing which is for package maintainers to polish up bugs before testing becomes stable
>unstable which is for package maintainers to remove critical bugs before they become "testing"

>>58913113
Typically, in a desktop installation, every users (except root obviously) get place in the "users" group.
The ownership of the files and folders in a certain home in generally set to "your-user-name-here" as owner and "users" as group.
The permissions are set so that the owner can rwx, but the other users in the "users" group can't do any of those (i.e. drwx------)

>>58913231
nice meme

Rejoice Thunar users.

https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12260#c34

>>58912947
fuck I am a literal retard, the post was for this anon >>58912665

>>58913231
Also, don't use testing if you want timely security patches, there is a risk to using testing because of the delay and requirements for moving from sid to testing. Also, testing is in a freeze right now so no patches of any kind unless necessary till the upcoming stable release.

>>58913242
I would rejoice a lot more if they introduced dual-pane mode frankly.

I don't recall ever noticing such bug.

>>58913228
>QSqlDatabase: QSQLITE driver not loaded
>QSqlDatabase: available drivers: QMYSQL3 QMYSQL
>KCrash: Application 'cantata' crashing...

maybe it was upset he couldn't find the correct driver?

>>58913260
should I go back to Jessie?

>>58913237
Ok, thanks. So from a bit of searching this should fix it then?

find /home/user -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 0775
find /home/user -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 0664

Does this change the group though?

>>58913284
If you want newer packages just go for Ubuntu LTS or one of it's spinoffs

>>58913242
File manager that crashes when you copy and paste. Classic.

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>>58912947
>backup disk you can immediately replace
Yes, This is what I need, I'm running a server where lost data isn't important as how fast I can bring the system back online.
>If you don't plan to change the disk partitioning often
Nope.
The only changes would be new users/groups/applications.
>rsync
just

rsync -raAXv --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} / /dev/hdb

>>58913184
>1
I see.
>2
Then how do I compile a source code to an installable package?
Without installing the package, meaning creating .rpm/.deb/.pkg package?
>3
I see.
I'm asking because I'm having difficulties creating packages with pkgbuild.

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explain this

>>58913295
heh, you can use the recursive -R flag and I prefer the symbolic mode to the octal:

this will set the ownership to all files and subfolders in the home dir:

chown -R username:group /home/username/

This the permissions to rwx for the users (u) and nothing to user group (g) and the others (o):

chmod -R u=rwx,go= /home/username/

>>58913396
4chan is a mobile messaging app. It is not a desktop browser image board. Please refrain from thinking you can upload anime and/or pictures of frogs to this app. Linus recognized this when he developed the kernel, Bill did not. Thank you.

>>58913446
>This the permissions to rwx for the users (u) and nothing to user group (g) and the others (o):
bad grammar:
This the permissions to rwx for the owning user (u), and to "nothing" for both the user's group (g) and the others (o):

>>58913461
how is the kernel related to filepicker thumbnails? are you retarded?

>>58913242
Thanks, applied the patch on muh Gentoo xfce system :^)

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>>58913396
I don't get it, can you explain?

>>58913446
Thanks, that looks much better.

>>58913479
How's life on the spectrum buddy?

>>58913479
he was obviously ironic.
still, I know that it's a bitch to add features to gtk as it should be as lean as possible, but still, basic file manipulation should be there as people are complaining about this feature for a decade now

>>58913540
>people are complaining about this feature for a decade now
4channers*

>>58913510
You still didn't tell me how you implemented it kurwa. I don't even know where to start with the patched gtk version of ahodesuka
please make a tutorial or something, as it really bothers me.
does it only work with old kde?
could it work on *buntu?

please respond

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>>58913556
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141154

that are normal people that use linux distros?
because on any linux forum I've been on, everybody has an anime avatar.

>>58913577

pacaur -S gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view

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>>58913595
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>58913390
so you are using pkgbuild to make package for pacman.

"PKGBUILD" is basically a script that will be executed by the "makepkg" utility to perform all the operation required to create a package for pacman.
It contain various variables to define the metadata I was talking about before and at least the following 3 functions:

prepare():
everything than must be done before compiling the package (e.g. applying patches), not always necessary.

build():
configure and build/compile the source (e.g. \configure and make with the appropriate options).

package():
install the compiled package to a certain directory typically named "pkg" (e.g. make install --destdir=pkg). makepkg will look into this dir to find the files he must copy to create the package.

read:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Creating_packages
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PKGBUILD

>>58913608
>does it only work with old kde?
>could it work on *buntu?

answer these, I'm not installing arch just for thumbnails.

>>58913650
it has nothing to do with KDE
you might be thinking of the suse firefox patch that makes firefox (specifically) use the KDE file dialog

Hey need help with gentoo install.

On handbook, the guide says to mount the boot directory (for me that's /dev/sda1) into /mnt/gentoo/boot

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Base#Mounting_the_boot_partition

Buuuuutt.....when I try this, nothing works. There is no /mnt/gentoo. I've done everything properly according to the handbook, up to this point. Please note that when I am doing this "mount" procedure I am in chroot (according to the guide).

I also find it kinda funny that they're asking me to mount boot because I mounted earlier. There's a part earlier in the guide where it tells you to mount all FS partitions. So, I did. I mounted root into /mnt/gentoo and I mounted boot into /mnt/gentoo/boot.

>>58913691
>Buuuuutt.....when I try this, nothing works.
Please be more specific.

>>58913643
My biggest issue is creating the PKGBUILD file.
I'm copying/modifying this https://git.archlinux.org/pacman.git/plain/proto/PKGBUILD.proto but still getting issues.
Mainly regarding the conflicting packages and such.

However what I need is to to compile a package from source and make it into .pkg for pacman to install it.

>>58913318
that should work but the destination should be the mount point of the backup disk, not the device file.
anyway have you already considered mirroring with RAID or is data corruption a problem?

>>58913691
You probably are using a non-Gentoo livecd which don't have /mnt/gentoo by default. Create it by mkdir /mn/gentoo
then mount your new root to /mnt/gentoo, mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot and mount the boot there

>>58913698
In chroot, /boot at the root level already exists so when I follow the mkdir boot command as instructed by the handbook, it just nulls my command because /boot already exists. And then when I try to mount boot (for me /dev/sda1) into /mnt/gentoo, it says that directory don't exist. And true to its word, I cd into /mnt and there is no /gentoo.

>>58913577
>please make a tutorial or something
>could it work on *buntu?
Funny you asked, cause I actually did one. Should work on *buntu just fine

https://jkisielewicz.fedorapeople.org/#orgfafddff

>>58913724
Nah I'm using the gentoo minimal installation. Certain of it.

>>58913726
create it then.

>>58913768
You can just...do that? I feel like there's something off here. Well, actually I shouldn't say that, I'm a linux noob.

>>58913794
It's just mounting, it doesn't matter, call it /mnt/cuntfacejim if you want, just make sure following commands or scripts correspond.

>>58913710
do you mean that pacman complains about some files already present in the filesystem?

>>58909858
>"RPM or DEB or whatever"
>"or whatever"
I smell he plans to replace package managers.

>>58910841
calm your autism, he clearly read the page

>>58913822
>I smell he plans to replace package managers.
Oh God yes please.

>>58913864
oh no, hell no

>>58913738
>https://jkisielewicz.fedorapeople.org/#orgfafddff
thanks, I'll report back if it actually works

>>58913318
I don't remember if it is implied in one of these options, but you should add "--delete" so if you delete a file from the source it will also be deleted in the backup

>>58913767
Maybe it isn't there.

>>58913794
yes

new thread >>58913880

>>58913888
>if it actually works
It will work. It has worked for me without a hiccup for the last year or so, on many distributions.

BUT read the notes first.
If you're on ubuntu chances are Firefox is compiled against GTK3.

So you'll either have to find a maintained PPA that serves GTK2 Firefox or compile it yourself. If you're forced to do the latter I'd advise switching to Firefox-ESR. Mighty less updates. Recompiling for GTK2 is fairly easy (changing only one line in a single file), but the compilation process itself takes shitload of time, especially on older hardware.

>>58913718
You're right the destination should be like this

/mnt/BackupHDD

Does rsync update MBR as well?
>mirroring with RAID
The system lacks the hardware space.
Although it supposed to be a "server" it's just a laptop running GNU/Linux from mSATA SSD, with two HDDs in RAID 1.
It runs mail server, web server, FTP server, owncloud, and some sort of chat server.
>>58913889
Good to know that.

>>58913917
>So you'll either have to find a maintained PPA that serves GTK2 Firefox or compile it yourself.
so it's not really that easy, huh
would this work? https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5b0vtd/howto_build_firefox_49_with_gtk2_in_debianubuntu/

>>58914010
>so it's not really that easy, huh
IT's easy on debian.

>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5b0vtd/howto_build_firefox_49_with_gtk2_in_debianubuntu/
Sounds like it.

>>58913918
>Does rsync update MBR as well?
the MBR resides outside any partition, so no, it can't. But you can clone it by copying the first 512 bytes of the disk.