/pcbg/ - PC Building General

first for retarded first post by op

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Finally up and running.

H100i v2 cooling a i5 6600k OCed to 4.4ghz. 16gb ddr43000, RX480 Nitro OC all cram packed into a Nano S. I feel like I made good decisions with this build. I'm a fag who avoids cell phones so I might have to have a friend with a digital camera take some pics of the inside.

I was also the guy who was posting in here about struggling to my GPU into the slot. It turns out the bracket on the GPU was bent. That would be why it wasn't fitting.

Performance is pretty great. At idle it's completely silent, as to where my ceiling fan is the loudest thing in my room.

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How does this look? Going to be using Windows 7 as an OS and I plan on getting another 1080 around June. Also may change to completely liquid later in the year.

>>58842167
Get 3000 RAM and Toshiba or Hitachi HDD, PSU is overkill, 850W should be more than enough.
EVGA ships with thermap pads now, but i wouldn't buy current GPUs from them. Look for Asus, Palit, Zotac, etc.

>>58842327
ty

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>tfw video game console assembly general thread

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>>58842352
Thank you for the daily shitpost.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9zsgpb

Am I good to go?

Just did my first full computer build spending $1200 and I think I did a pretty good job aside from going overkill with the cpu and getting an i7 instead of an i5 with a 8gb 480 (also a waste of money from what I've read compared to 4gb).

I am so incredibly excited for this. My computer is constantly struggling and I have been random blue screening quite frequently on this build I've had since 2009. I plan to let my new computer last me another 7+ years with small upgrades rather than another entirely new build.

>>58842327
wait what's wrong with thermap pads?

>>58841655

Build request here if any of you have a little free time. Would greatly appreciate it.

I need the cheapest and smallest desktop PC that can be built. CPU must be a socketed Intel Core 2 Duo of some kind. Minimum of 2GB of RAM. I don't need a hard drive included either. Ports needed are VGA (x1), PS/2 (x1) and USB type A (x2). If a GPU will cost more than $10-15, I could live with integrated graphics. I also don't mind buying used parts. Bonus points if the mobo supports Core/Libreboot or any other alternative firmware.

Thanks.

>>58841655
>Consider a H110/B150/B250 or mobo for any Pentium or i3 build
most 1xx series need a skylake to flash bios.
>telling people to buy a kaby brick

>>58841943
is that 75hz a freesync? if it is that is a very good combo

>>58842430
For $30 less, you can get a superior cpu.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/391685219289

>>58842430
looks good my dude

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>>58842513

>>58842430
Good built, but swap the HDD for a Toshiba P300, it's newer and better.
Personally i'm not a fan of Gigabyte GPUs, maybe get something else, but that's up to you.

>>58842489
>thermap pads
Thermal pads, of course. Thing with EVGA 1070 and 1080 cards was that the VRM was not properly cooled and it was possible for it to catch fire.
EVGA quickly responded to this issue and gave buyers thermal pads and ships new cards this them already applied.
While this essentially solves the problem, i'd stay clear of EVGA for this iteration of Nvidia GPUs.

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>>58842535
It's not for gaming.

>>58842541
fug, I'll check out different alternatives to 1080s then, thanks.

>>58842352
you could always post your gnu/Linux businessman build for many vms and serious work, home servers, NAS etc. I'm interested in that.

building a powerful pc
>not putting a decent gpu in there for some funsies

this guy

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https://www.sagernotebook.com/Notebook-NP5855.html

RATE the gaming laptop i bought
i got 500 GB instead so it's ~$950

>>58842516

I'm paranoid about ordering things from overseas.

>>58842541

which gpu would you recommend

>>58842513
>>58842557
Might as well buy a comodore 64 and try to install gentoo on it.
Honest advice, if you need a new PC for shitposting and some work get a G4560 build, price performance is insane.

>>58842604
Asus STRIX, MSI Gaming X, PNY XLR, Zotac AMP! and Palit Jetstream are what i'd consider.

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>>58842515
Yeah it is

>>58842653
>botnet CPU
No thanks. I asked for a C2D for a reason.

>>58842583
Well just like most game laptops, they put something baller into it only to skimp out on other things bottle necking the performance. The gpu won't get you far, and 8gb is fairly low for a newer computer, but the price seems accurately weighted for the pieces seperately plus assembly

>>58842695
>botnet
I hope you don't use any social media, youtube, google, android or anything related to then.

>>58842604
>I'm paranoid about ordering things from overseas.

It's fine for things like SSDs and CPU,s as they're quite solid and well protected. They can also be thrown around and be alright.

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>>58842695
THATS the reason?

>>58842516

he's AU btw

it ends up being about the same price

>>58842516
>Buying anything of value from chinkbay

>>58842726
I have no social media. I actually don't even have a smartphone since all of them have proprietary bootROMs and SBLs, as well as bad modem isolation. I know what I'm doing.

>>58842738
Yes, /v/. I want to kill the management engine without fucking the power management. That's the reason.

What are some good cases without 5.25" bays that are white?

NZXT has 2 good options with the S340, and H440.

(Window preference doesn't matter)

>>58842541
>>58842604

There's nothing wrong with Gigabyte G1s.

>>58842698
I've been playing RE7 everything high at 60 FPS (at 1600x900) You think the GPU is that bad?

>>58842790
>powe management on a desktop
>believing the Intel backdoor is open and sending data
It's there so Intel can cuck you if the police ask nicely, that's it. No criminal investigation on you, no problem
Windows is the 24/7 botnet

>>58842790

christ I thought these tinfoil types were a meme

>>58842825
I could play RE7 (at 1600x900) at 30fps
I don't have a GPU btw

>>58842844
Oh. I thought it was pretty demanding

>i5 is $350
>i7 is $500

should I just get the i5 and wait to see what Ryzen brings us?

>>58842825
Not necessarily, but with such a powerful processor the main drawback is the gpu in this case. I would still say that based on pricing for everything separately, you're getting a fair deal

>>58842790
You should turn off power management anyways on a desktop
Do you like your peripherals shutting off for no reason?

>>58842790
For real? Are memes escaping to reality again? I understand the social media part, i don't have an account other than one required for work and one for shitposting, but you should get a smartphone m8.
Believe it or not, but i didn't have a smartphone until this year, i had a Sony Ericsson C510, and i'm 23.
But i learned to appreciate it, it's an invaluable tool for work and college and also allows for mobile shitposting.
Maybe you find someone who wants to sell his ancient C2D on ebay, craiglist or whatever you have in US.

>>58842812
With RX480 G1 certainly is something wrong. See weirdo PCB / OC guy on jewtube.

>>58842829
>>58842875
Power management as in the CPU cores will shut off after 30 minutes without the Intel management engine on newer Intel CPUs. That's no good if I want to have this computer I requested running all the time. The management engine has full memory and TCP/IP stack access, and can send and receive network packets regardless of OS firewall. This PC needs to be completely secure, and it's not the government I'm afraid of.

>>58842843
If you want to live under the boot, that's your choice.

>>58842918
Then you shouldn't be building your own PC with consumer parts. I'm sure your company knows better than you if they're the ones requiring you to get this
But they never said no Intel management engine, and they're probably using 7/XP on haswell CPUs

>>58842902
>With RX480 G1 certainly is something wrong

yeah but not the GTX1070 - their G1s are perfectly fine

>>58842869
>should I just get the i5 and wait to see what Ryzen brings us
yes
the 2500k still lives on despite being an i5
i7 is only if you're streaming at the same time or using other processor intensive tasks, for just gaming i5 is sufficient

>>58842918
>it's not the government I'm afraid of
If it's not Intel you're afraid of you're fine
How many people can exploit the management engine themselves?

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Can someone rate this build? I'll mostly be using this for gaming/programming stuff, tried to do it as cheaply as possible.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GersonEEC/saved/Z4NsYJ

All opinions welcome.

>>58842902
>you should get a smartphone
I had one until I started learning about technology beyond rainmeter skins and Apple products.

>>58842942
The computer is for me, and I'll be paying for it out of my own pocket.

>>58842981
>How many people can exploit the management engine themselves?
I don't know, and that's the problem. I'm going to be handling sensitive data soon and I can't take any chances. I'm getting paid a lot for this.

>>58842947
>for just gaming i5 is sufficient

not in 2017 as more games require HTT

although he's right to wait, as AMD will have appropriate CPUs, and intel are releasing i5s with those capabilities

>>58842947
>tfw my Kaby Lake laptop dual core i7 matches 2500k's lower-end cinebench score
Desktop CPUs have always had the worst upgrades, but they do add up after each gen, and 2500ks are still a costing a fat wad of cash, why not blow that fat wad on a new CPU?

>>58842946
No idea, that guy wasn't quite impressed by the 1060 Xtreme, which is Gigabytes top 1060 card. I doubt they'll treat their other cards differently.

>>58842999

christ you're gullible

>>58842999
Then you will be illegally handling secure company information on your personal PC
Just admit this isn't for "work" and you're falling for memes

>>58842869

just get the i7 and be done with it - amd won't have anything better

>>58843025
How?

>>58843035
I never said it was for my day job, but a lot of money is riding on this.

>>58842985
What the fuck is that cooler? Also do you really need a sound card?

>>58842985
>7600K with basically a stock cooler
>16GB of RAM
>Buying wangblows
>Sound card
>cheaply as possible
Nice bait.

>>58843082
That's the absolute lowest I could find, lokls like it will perform well, sound card not really a must, but preferred.

>>58843081
The unplug the Ethernet and lock the PC in a box when you're done using it
This is for your porn, nobody is going to walk into your house and create a multi-billion dollar management exploit in your bedroom to look at loli

>>58843128
What's a better budget cooler, I'll cut the sound card.

>>58843171
Hyper 212 evo

>>58843081
>steal your "smallest possible" PC because it so easy
>swap CPU to new one
>commence hackerman

>>58843051
Shiggy.

>>58843186
Nice, thank you.

I guess everything else is ok?

>>58843203

he's right though

why buy something twice

he'll be spending around $600+ in the long run - might as just well invest 500 in a single one now

>>58843229

you don't need a k series cpu, dumb fuck

>>58843164
>>58843190
I'm not worried about this machine being physically accessed. It needs to be connected to the internet for what I'm using it for. Isolating it through removal of networking hardware would be sufficient if I didn't need said hardware. I also need this to stay running all the time. The management engine has to be disabled.

>>58843186
>>58843229
H7 > 212 EVO.

>>58843277

this

>>58841655
How does look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y4TRHN
It's my first time building in ~5 years and I don't know if I should get the AMP! or FTW 1070 since they're both $400 and I heard EVGA fixed the cooling problems on the ACX 3.0 Cards.

>>58843231
You dolt. I was pointing out your blatant fanboying.
Zen already licked i7's clock for clock on an engineering sample.
>but i7 had to be under clocked
Who does clock speeds better?

>>58842985

I'd do much more research before you buy anything. You obviously have zero idea what you're doing.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hzRHN

>>58843343
>your blatant fanboying

oh wow the irony

I'm saying it doesn't matter how good Zens are, if he's impatient to wait, there's no point buy an i5 only to replace it shortly after. Just get the i7 and be set.

>>58843331
Mobo is cheap and basic shit, don't expect much, the Z270-A is much better.
HDD is obviously fine, but old, maybe switch to Toshiba P300.
PSU is overpriced, i think you can get a EVGA G2 for less.

>should get the AMP! or FTW 1070
Zotac AMP! it is.

>>58843413
Thanks for the input.

>>58843373
I want it to be able to play games at a constant 45-60 fps @ 1080, don't think the 6500 is able to handle that at resolutions higher than 1600.

>>58843444

it will you stupid shit

>>58843444

You don't know anything.

>>58843401
>there's no point buy an i5 only to replace it shortly after.
I half agree with that. Can be handy to have a back up computer.
>oh wow the irony
STOP HITTING THE RETURN KEY SO OFTEN YOU HOMO.
>>58842869
Do a cheapo Bentium 4 build if you need something now.
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G3258-vs-AMD-FX-8350
Much better than doing nothing and waiting for next gen chips.

>day 78 of waiting for Ryzen APUs

>>58843506

I think I'll just get the i7 and leave it at that.

>>58843343
>"i7's"
>half the core count as zen
>other i7's have 9x the cores as zen

>>58843531
The release will be in March i think

>>58843343

>claims fanboyism
>goes on about how amazing Zen will be when that's not the point of discussion

>>58843577

IIRC it's late March

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r8?

Hey anons im trying a build out for the first time. Which build should i go with?
1. Regular build: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/gdTP6h
OR
2. Aesthetic build: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/XYvdCJ

>>58843624
same anon from last thread? looks good

>>58843690
different anon
thanks
gonna pull the trigger

>>58843618
>goes on about how amazing Zen will be when that's not the point of discussion
Zen, Ryzen...
>>58842869
>wait to see what Ryzen brings us?
>>58843618
Have a think what Ryzen is built from. Like really strain that noodle. Take your time.

>>58843624
It's retarded and so are you, now fuck off.

Everyone's such a bully here :<

>>58843577
>>58843618
that's the CPU line, APUs won't come out until September probably

>>58843720

fuck off already amdshill

>>58843768

/g/ isn't your tech support - you ask to have your builds rated. If it's shit you get bullied.

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>>58843742

>>58843711
just so you know, you'll need to update the bios to use kaby

>>58843660
They're exactly the same. Also
>200R
>Aesthetic
>Spending that much on fans when they're not even Noctuas

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>>58843789
>fuck off already amdshill
Get fucked Pajeet. You got backed into a corner and have nothing to come back with. Now go attend to those cows you've wandering the office. I her you can make good income selling their piss as drinking water.

>>58843711
>gonna pull the trigger

Don't. I can do with vast improvements, and using a Kaby on a 170 is stupid, even if you flash.

>>58842985
I have no expertise in building computers, but have modified plenty and there's a couple of things you're doing here that are not going to be a good idea in the long run because you're trying to lowball it. The PSU is cutting it extremely close which means if you want to make any upgrades, you'll likely have to buy another psu which is a bit of a waste imo. Don't get that cpu cooler, there's much better options around the same value.

Other than that, if you're going to be playing video games, there's better choices than the 1050. Logical increments may be a good place to look for some help and then change things to what you would want. They're fairly trustworthy

I built a PC in 2014 and it went well. But that was 3 years ago, I forget how to do it. Is it hard to learn how to do it? I'm afraid of shorting out the board by accident or something.

>>58842869

Get an i5, and replace it at the end of the year.

>>58843273
your not keeping yourself up to date
http://hardenedlinux.org/firmware/2016/11/17/neutralize_ME_firmware_on_sandybridge_and_ivybridge.html
there are ways to get around the problems but why have a shitty build pc if you can just as easily have a thinkpad+dock (they have well documented hardware as far as i know)

I have a dilemma.

65W CPU, limited space for cooler:
Cryorig C7 or Noctua NH-L9i?

I keep hearing Noctuas are amazingly quiet and the C7 is loud, but the C7 is more effective than the Noctua. But the same people who say this also say the C7 looks cool and Noctuas look awful, which is an opinion that can only belong to 12 year olds, so I don't know if I should trust them.

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Haven't done a new build since 2011 so I'm super out of the loop. This is a first mockup of something new I've been looking at getting.

>>58843874
Go watch some Bitwit or Jayztwoshills, jesus. Stop overcomplicating it.

>>58843849
>I can do with vast improvements
like? I don't need it to be bleeding edge. it just has to play most games on high.

So why are mini-itx builds so unpopular? I don't see a dramatic performance difference from other boards of similar value

>>58843910
get z270/7700k, you stupid nigger

>>58843990
Overpriced and worse cooling than ATX and mATX.

>>58843910
looks good, could use some higher frequency ram

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>>58842869

>$160 more for the i7

fuck that shit, get the i5 and wait it out for a year

>>58843910
also, look for an nvme ssd, ocz arc is a good secondary work ssd but it's meh as an os drive

something like a plextor m8pe or a samsung 960 pro

watercooling is for retards
that case is too big
the evga card is a piece of shit, get the zotac amp extreme

>lol, shitgate
get a hgst 2.5" 7200rpm drive for backups, and another wd red 3.5" for hot storage

>>58844012
Hot damn 7700k is like 10$ more.

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>>58843990
they're not unpopular, quite the opposite. They're getting more and more popular every year.

It's just that /g/ has a very american mentality when it comes to computers, they want the biggest they can find because they believe big=powerful

pic related, do you think an American would ever think this is an acceptable 1st car for anyone? Of course not, they would choose a huge old Mustang because it's bigger and therefore looks more powerful

>>58843910
oh and get 16GB sticks, don't be a complete fucking retard. make sure they're 2400mhz, 1.2v, 14-15cl

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>>58843909
You can chalk up the performance difference to the extra cm of aluminum fins that the C7 has. The Noctua comes with an infinitely better fan though and a killer warranty.
>>58843990
People think there's some kind of compromise to be made when you go ITX, the only valid one being two DIMM slots if you're going to be using mainly SATA storage and a single GPU.
>>58844018
Most ITX motherboards have to integrate good wifi because believe it or not, people use it. I'm also getting better temps in my Node 304 than in the Define R5 I had previously.

>>58844067
it gets better temps and higher oc. also those new chipset features work better with the new chip

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>>58844042

>invented

So I'm currently on a computer using Windows 10 through the """"deal""" they had for Windows 7 users and I'm curious if I'll be able to use my product code on my new build coming in on Monday or if I'll need to buy a new one? Are their any safe redistributors if so? I found windows home for $45, but I find it fishy how they could receive it and sell it so cheaply

>>58844042
I've seen this picture posted several times but was this really published? How can someone go through a university degree not knowing that you can actually build computers yourself instead of buying pre-made?

>>58843229
Could use faster ram and an ssd, but it's fine as is
>>58843277
It's also more expensive, and on sale less often iirc

>>58843818
FUCK ME I POSTED THE WRONG LINK

>>58843910
>BUYING windows
>buying windows 10 HOME?!?!?!!?!?
you're beyond salvation, you're better off killing yourself right now

>>58844100
you can use the crack activator like a normal person, even microsoft will give it a thumbs up as genuine

>>58844108
Modern universities are degree factories.

>>58844094
>I get better airflow in my Node 304 than in the Define R5 I had previously
Probably because you had better airflow and less negative space.
>>58844098
>replying to a two year old article

>>58844147
this
windows 8 is truly the best

>>58844147
but i need windows to get on internet explorer for my gentoo download then i can install that

>>58844147
ahah le funny windows botnet meme xD
For anyone who is planning on purchasing Windows, it's much cheaper via Kinguin

>>58844167

>2016 was two years ago

Hey anons im trying a build out for the first time. Which build should i go with?
1. Regular build: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/gdTP6h
OR
2. Aesthetic build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q94jLD
(God damn it i posted the wrong link last time)

>>58844175
Finally somebody knows of this jesus christ
https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/

>>58844100
you can reuse your key, you'll need to contact Microsoft to have them change it machine

>>58844160
Funny enough, that's how I got my genuine Windows 7 key (Almost half the product key is comprised of 0's), but that's a pain in the ass to do. I have no problem with piracy, but I become paranoid that I'm missing out on important updates

>>58844175
>>58844215

>trusting chinguin

>>58844177
You nigger it was 37 days 16 hours and 40 minutes ago

>>58844177
>may
It was spammed enough here and /pol/ that anyone who saw it that time would know not to reply.

>>58844175
i meant why buy windows 8 home and not fucking pirate windows 10 enterprise or pro?

>>58844218
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/20530/windows-10-reactivating-after-hardware-change

>>58844167

I've seen it many times, but "invented" triggers me every time.

>>58844230
I've bought several games from them and never had a problem

>>58844249
Why pirate when you can get it legit for 30 bucks nigger

>>58844051
>be family
>take son out for dinner on birthday, bribe other members of family to throw away their night and come too
>he's an ungrateful shit and doesn't say a word the whole time
>start talking to other family members so he doesn't feel like he's awkwardly ruining the dinner (he is)
>edgy nihilistic dipshit millennial says "I don't want anything" for birthday
>get him a restaurant cake because fuck you "Amazon gift card" was too fucking hard to say
>make them sing to him to expose him to the world of human conversation and interaction
>he fucks it all up
>can hear him jacking off in his room right now

>>58844249
because I'm a good person and I don't steal

Is there a way I can induce myself into a coma until monday? My life is kind of meaningless and building this computer will be my highlight of the year so you could imagine why I'm feeling extremely impatient.

>>58844275
for $30 i can get more hardware

>>58844277
This cannot be real. If he was my son I wouldnt have to do anything because Im actually a good parent and teach my kid manners

>>58844286
but that's like stealing from a villain
and it's not even stealing

fuck microsoft. just get more/better hardware

>>58844291
aw man, just go to sleep and keep going back to sleep every time you wake up, for days. that's what i did years ago and it gave me lucid dreams

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>>58844313
>trying to convince people stealing from greedy Jews isnt stealing at all
Ha nigger

i5 or i7 for gaming? Mostly new AAA titles

>>58844323
Wouldnt you starve?

>>58844313
>being this much of a nigger communist

>>58844204
Let's get nasty.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4K6dgL

Shave off the cost of the NF-F12 iPPC if you don't care about replacing the CPU fan.

>>58844359
Not them, but I've got at least a months worth of hibernating weight on me just in case.

>>58844068
People don't really get Mustangs as their first cars here in America, and the 'old ones' are usually smaller than the modern ones. Most people's first car looks exactly like that picture.

>>58844358
If money's no object, i7
If you want to get your moneys worth, i5

>>58844412
This is better actually. No need to load up the entire case with fans.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2j39Fd

What's a decent enough speakers + subwoofer combo for around 50€?

>>58844412
I've looked on quite a few sites and from my knowledge, the i7 doesn't come with a stock fan. Am I wrong on this?

>>58844068
Faggot most people get shitty 10-20 year old sedans as their first car.

>>58844359
nothing wrong with getting out of bed for a bit for a bite/piss/poop

i did that, and went straight back to bed. felt like the pauses never happened

>>58844358

Wait for the AMD lineup. Not only to see what they're offering, but because Intel are rleeasing i5s with hyperthreading capabilities. i7 is simply not worth the money at this point in time.

>>58844452
None of the K series processors come with a cooler or a fan. I'm just saying that if you wanted to replace the fan on the H7 and you wanted to keep the ricing thing going, the Noctua fan is a good replacement.

H7 is a better cooler overall because it has a flat baseplate and that allows better thermal paste spread.

>>58844490
>
the hyper i5s will cost nearly as much as a fucking i7. just like the fucking overclockable i3 which costs as much as an overclockable i5. it's beyond retarded what intel is doing

>>58844529
meant the guy above

>>58844529
how much does everyone think an i7 is? I mean yeah, $309 isn't cheap, but the ZEN will likely be starting in the $400-$500 range

>>58844561
The cost for its quality isnt worth it. They might as well buy Kaby-Lake or wait for Coffeelake or Cannonlake

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So I'm thinking about building a new PC for the first time since early 2000s and came up with this:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/pZcNWX

I don't play games at all. I need a PC for detailed digital art (photoshop/painter/maybe zbrush etc.) and it should last for a good while. It should be able to drive a 4K monitor nicely.

Any suggestions or improvements of sorts is appreciated.

It's done.

How did I go?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/BKHDM8

>>58844979
Why did you bother with two 144hz monitors?

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time for my quadrennial upgrade

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2cLnwV

should I wait for the 4k 144hz acer/asus monitor or get just get this http://a.co/bZvMH9L?

>>58845030

not bothering with 1440p

one will be in portrait

>>58845058
One 1080 won't run 4k 144hz.
>>58845068
Yea, but if you won't be gaming on it why not just get 60 hz?

>>58845120
not looking to run games maxed out for 4k 144hz and I will add another 1080 later on or possible upgrade to 1080ti sli

>>58845163
Disposable income is neat

>>58845120

I will be, that's why I got a 144hz, also the second one was free with the first purchase.

Won't bother with 1440p until the end of the year when more options open up.

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>>58845208
it's actually my student loan money

>>58845247
Wise financial decisions are neat

>>58845247
Damn, the only thing I spent my student loans on (despite, you know, school) was an 8-ball of crack. Wish I had considered building a PC for free.

>>58845321
>free
You know how loans work, right?

>>58845376
It's a STUDENT loan. They can tank your credit score, but it's not like they can take away the shit you spend the money on, as they think it all went to your schooling and they can't repo a degree.

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>>58845209
Youre mad ultrawide 1440p monitors only go to 100hz aren't you

>>58845489
They can repo your paycheck

>>58845489
>they can't repo a degree
Even worse, they repo the one and only good thing about a degree, your job

>>58845639

No, as I said I got the second one free, and will only be using one for gaming, and the other will be flipped around portrait style.

Learn to read.

>>58844769
>Some Intel Z170 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Kaby Lake-S CPUs.

If I only play sports and fighting games (FIFA, NBA 2K, Street Fighter) do I still need a graphics card or are integrated graphics good enough these days? Particularly interested in the upcoming Ryzen APUs because I'll only be building my PC in the summer. They should be powerful enough for what I need, right?

>>58845928
Depends on the resolution. They should do 1080p 30fps.

MSI H110M PRO-VD PLUS
ASROCK H110M-DVS
ASUS H110M-E M.2
GIGABYTE GA-H110M-DS2

anon... which one should i pick?

>>58845988
The current gen APU does better than that
My fucking laptop with integrated graphics literally does that

>>58845988
Thanks
Yeah as long as it plays at 1080p at 30fps or more is fine by me, even if I have to drop everything to very low

>>58846003
>current gen APU does better than that
fuck me that's great news

Ryzen APU it is then

>>58845995

gigabyte

>>58845995
>H110
Doesn't matter, it's all the same. Get the one with the features you need and the lowest price.

Red pill me on 4K monitors, /g/.

>>58846019
worst case scenario you're buying a mini-PS3

>>58841655
laptop under 1k with MQ or HQ processor. I can upgrade the rest in terms or storage and ram assuming it's not soldered.

>>58845898
All new Z170 boards still in production have the updated BIOS. I think Biostar or Supermicro even had some of the boards sent back from distribution just to replace the BIOS chip to the latest one that works with Kaby Lake

>>58846369
A lot of pixels
Usually an absurdly high dpi
No high Hz without $2k
No even reaching 60fps without $2k
4K media is harder to find online
My verdict: video game meme, media consumption meme, design software heaven

>>58846379
If you're buying that instead of owning it, get a U series CPU, 1/3 of the power draw and just as many threads
Saves cooling, saves battery, sandy bridge desktop performance

>>58846429
I would be owning it, thing is I use VMs and I travel a lot so being able to do work on the go would be useful wouldn't be for gaming I'd rather game on a desktop.

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So I take it EVGA 1070s are still housefires? I wanted to go with them since I'd had such good luck with them in the past, but that kinda kills it.

Also, does anybody know what this DX12 Multi Adapter stuff is about? Would I theoretically be able to use my old 660 alongside whatever new card I get?

>>58846588
EVGA changed coolers. They're not ACX 3.0 anymore, they're now ICX

Best IPS non-gaming monitor that I can dual screen? Thinking 22-24".

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Looking for the best price/performance ratio, and this is the build that some friends recommended.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/svcvm8

Everything looks good, but I figured I'd get some professional opinions.

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>>58842679
good onya.

8gb was the way to go. My old 2012 build with a refresh and new used gpu is still doing damn well. this will last you years. going to run this until 2018 at least.

pic related
>storage drive in rma process

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Are there any real options for four x16 GPUs?

I was holding off on single socket 2011v3 with a e5-16xx CPU because 40 PCIe lanes but skylake-x/2066 is only going to have 48 lanes to CPU??

What options are there? Dual socket some E5-26xxs?

I don't supposed VEGA is supposed to have a whole bunch of PCIE lanes...

>>58846684
post porn of the dog

>>58846684
Fuck off sluts

Someone please talk me out of buying RGB RAM

>>58846760
I won't if you are color coordinating your build with matching fans and such.

But if you're buying for rainbow, kill yourself.

>>58846774
Let the faggot celebrate his gayness.

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>>58846684
>Passion Lubes, Natural Water-Based Lubricant, 55 Gallon Drum

>>58846721
Run them at x8 and lose nothing in computational performance (but you're obviously using these for real work and not video gaymen, right?)
Right?

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https://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-27-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B00P0EQD1Q

or

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-U2417H-UltraSharp-LED-Backlit-Monitor/dp/B01D11JUAU

as a second monitor

>>58846684
>Passion Lubes, Natural Water-Based Lubricant, 55 Gallon Drum
Guess where this is going. Pro tip: It's not the computer.

>>58846684
Why is the 9-gallon tub of cum $0.00?

>>58846684
Xeon E5 single socket?

>I got to "1500$ Passion Lubes, Natural Water-Based Lubricant, 55 Gallon Drum" before I lol'd.

>>58846808
I can make the cum myself, but I figured I'd add it to properly calculate the amount of power I'd need to get out of the PSU.

>>58846808
>Why is the 9-gallon tub of cum $0.00?
where do you think he got it

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>>58846684
>malwarebytes anti-malware premium subscription (1 year) $49.99
This was the best part of it all

>>58846790
I want to present 4x mid range CAD environments from a single KVM host. The Xeon was for ECC and bonded dual 10Gb to SAN should give me enough disk. I think I can get away with 64GB ECC. I wonder if PLX would get me "good enough" 4x16x GPU performance. Dell Precision prices are getting stupid.

>>58846791
If you're getting a second monitor, it's better to get two of the same monitor for both consistency and compatibility, but you can get the one and upgrade the other later if you need to.

Today, I'd suggest the first of the two because 1440p is coming up to be the new standard due to the advance of gaming capabilities.

>>58846684
Jesus nearly 60k!

>>58846790
Also I didn't think it was l33t enough to justify GRID. Maybe.

The point of the post wasn't to have people do my job for me, I was just wondering if anyone has seen stuff like the 4-6x multi-headed gaming machines from 2 years ago with PCIE passthrough running x16 with the upcoming intel options. I would much rather do this mostly enthusiast grade HW.

>>58846892
I don't really want two 144hz TN monitors, I was looking for an IPS to complement it. Is an R9 Fury enough for 1440p?

Wouldn't it be weird to have monitors of different resolutions?

>>58846684
May want to get a better keyboard maybe second pcie ssd

550w G vs 620w B.

need at least 550w with my oc and gpu. both are tier 2 psus

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003HE260I
$60 no MIR to fuck with.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00918MEZG/
$70 with a $10 mir

same price both rated well.

any better options?

What HDD should i buy for some non-server big data?

i need at least 30TB in total

>>58847378
6 5TB Hitachi Deskstar NAS
6 10TB HDDs are too expensive because "muh early adoption" and 8 4TBs are just too many to manage with most PSUs.
5TB drives are in the pricing sweet-spot anyway.

>>58847378
4x BarraCuda pro 10tb

>>58847425
How about 5 6TB HGST Ultrastar?

where can i find a list of budget motherboards that will let me do everything with good sound? I'm talking about cool things like getting an NVMe SSD eventually, maybe even crossfire ready if it becomes more than a meme one day. I'm in canada.

>>58847474
If it costs less overall, then go for it

>>58847595
thx, it's in big discount in my country

will all the plastic shit on this mobo impair a top mounted radiator?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813130971

>>58848021
On small ATX cases like the shitastic BitFenix, yes

Looking to build a PC this year. But wondering if it is worth it to get the 1070 vs the 1060. If playing games at 1080p, is the 1070 worth it?

>>58848214
>1080p
Neither. Get the RX 470.

>>58848214
If you want 120 or 144 fps, yea. Or if you plan to get a new monitor.

>>58847331
Get the $70 one.

>>58848255
It seems like the 470 and 1060 are neck and neck for gaming, but from benchmarks (I know they are not 100%) the 1060 seems to beat out the 470 by just a bit. the 480 may be a decent contender though. Any thoughts on it?

>side mounted SATA ports
When will this meme end?

>>58848214
1070 would be worth it if you don't want to upgrade for a few years

>>58848366
Do your research on the good cards for both, wait for sale, buy one (hopefully according to your monitor)

>>58848366
Benchmarks don't tell the full picture, and they can often be nvidia-biased. In general, they are neck and neck with some differences depending on the game.
480 is somewhat stronger than the 470, but is not as good a value unless you go with the 8GB version. Both are better value than the 1060 6GB. Basically if you want future-proof 1080p, probably go for 480 8GB. Only go for 1070 if you plan to go 1440p; it's overkill for 1080p.

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Rate my 300$ poor person build /g/

>i5 3570
>8gb ram
>rx 470 4gb
>500gb HDD

Question: Will it run Counter Strike 1.6 ok? pls respond

>>58848295
that was my first thought as it is gold vs bronze but both are in the tier 2 list on toms.

as my 500w is getting pushed too hard i am leaning towards the 620w. I use my laptop for general browsing, multimedia and shitposting so I'm not to worried about max draw.

70w more headroom will give me peace of mind i think.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

m12 II is just the semi mod version of s12 II, so it's roughly the same as that and the evo.

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>>58848554
>Will it run Counter Strike 1.6 ok?
A toaster could run cs 1.6, what do you think?

Im trying to build a pc a decent one so i can play video games and edit videos. Can I build one with 500 or 600 dollars?

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>>58848591

>>58848613
Damn...how much are we talking then. Close to 1000?

>>58848591
go on ebay and look for a prebuilt refurbished PC with an old i5 in it and get a GPU with it you can easily spend less than 300 all together. A modern build from newegg with a skylake i5 and a 1050 ti would be about 500-600 with minimalist peripherals.

What exactly can I comfortably fit on a 240GB SSD?

Is going bigger worth it?

>>58844068
>Mustang
>Huge
It's time to stop posting

>>58848657
Depends on your definition of decent

i7 6700 (3.4 ghz)
1070 SC
8gb RAM

If anything, should I up RAM or up the cpu?

>>58848665
>Windows OS (60-120gb iirc)
>handful of your favorite games for them quick load times

>>58848679
ram

>>58848679
Your CPU is fine for at least another 4 years. More ram is cool but 8gb is usually enough for anything in my case.

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>>58848554
put that on a p or z board and you have 4.0-4.2ghz all cores and roughly the same performance as an i5 6500.
see
>>58846695
Don't have many games but it runs RE7 2560x1600 max 100+fps with vsync off. An ivy will destroy csgo.

Also consider a 3550. 100mhz slower and I got one for $73 shipped from fleabay.


this is mine.

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/2777465
>nvm the 390x performance. I'm also the anon asking about psu because my cx500 is struggling to oc both the card and the cpu. It is downclocked for stability.

>>58842812
It's loud as fuck

>>58848741
that whine, windforce is okay though and matches ugly cheap asrock mobos

>>58843444
6500 it's more than enough for 60 FPS, i own a i5 2310 with 1070, and im running almost everything at 4k downscaled to 1080p @ more than 60 FPS

>>58841655
>Consider a B150/B250 or H110 mobo for any Pentium or i3 build
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE please edit this.

>Consider a B150/B250 or H110 mobo (with out of the box Kaby Lake support) for any Pentium or i3 build
The older H110 mobos need a bios update, and you cannot update a bios unless you have a functional CPU.

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Is it worth it to build a more budget oriented pc if I already have another Z170 motherboard laying around with the 7350k? or should I just get a g4460 when they are available here? Price is CDN btw

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How is the rx 470 4gb @ 1440p?

Will the rx 470 perform noticably worse on a regular x16 pcie slot vs a 2.0 or 3.0 slot?

>>58849060
if you already have a Z170, not worth going with a locked CPU

>>58849060
>i3 7350k

Haha holy fuck. Either spend $30 more and get a 7600k or spend less by buying something like 6400, reroll your bios and oc it using BCLK.

>want to buy extra large mousepad
>70x20cm would be perfect
>minimum is Yx30cm
>no space left on desk if I take 30cm

shit. I just want something to fit under my keyboard and mouse both. Those things span the entire desk gaddang

>>58849283
7600k is 100 dollars more the the 7350k here but the 6400 is the same price as the 7350k maybe I'll try that instead

>>58848665
I'd love to buy a simple 250gb one but I know I'll hate myself after installing windows and putting a few large games on it. I pretty much need a 500gb or else it will get annoying.

>>58849314
feel you fampai seriously considering just buying a new desk to accommodate it

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who /justenough/ here?

Really happy with my $300 shitbox

is a gtx1080 just overkill for only 1080p? I have a 144hz monitor

>>58849084
AMD said the 470 is a 1440p card
That being said it does badly, expect lowered settings or sub-60 framerates
Also PCIe x16 3.0 to 2.0 shouldn't be a problem, as of now it's only 2.0 x8 or below that is a bottleneck, and even then it's a 3% loss at worst case scenario
>>58849434
Yes it is.
Make sure you have a decent cpu too for those framerate

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Q2mjLD

Will this PSU be sufficient?

I'll only be mildly overclocking. Nothing extreme.

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Looking for some upgrades, but I'm not sure where to start aside from an SSD. No desire to go beyond 1080p so I want to maximize muh frames at that resolution. Should I stick with the 960 or pick up a 1070 or something? Also most likely upgrading to a 7600k along with the mobo.

Any suggestions?

>>58849434
A 1070 will be more than enough for 1080p 144hz.

>>58849434

If you want to play gta v on true ultra it isn't. Ultra grass and all.

But yeah it isn't worth the money, go with an RX480 or GTA1070.

http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=332025803918&category=179&pm=1&ds=0&t=1486545384482

$990

Rate this

>>58849467
>>58849850
>>58849938
thanks senpai

best/cheapest 23'~ 1080p monitor with vesa? other stuff doesn't really matter as long as the viewing angle isn't too fucked

>>58849957
its 24 but here ya go

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XF240H-bmjdpr-24-inch-FreeSync/dp/B01DHTWZRQ/?tag=logicaincrem-20#Ask

Are there even games with a 8gb ram requirement? I'm planning to just get a 4gb ram 500gb sata3 HDD pentium g4560 build and play 720p on hd 530, anything more seems like a waste of money and dumb

>>58849966
that's very nice but also kind of expensive for what I need, already have a 1440p 144hz ips so this is just for extra screen space

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HXYB4C

did I fuck up

>>58849491

Yes, but my fucking lord I wouldn't pay those prices for those two parts, even if it is Australia. Stick with an i5 and 1070 until the end of the year then buy some of the new shit coming out when sales are on.

>>58850290
750W is overkill but everything looks fine.

>>58850311

Is changing the CPU a hassle? Does the mobo need re-configuring or anything?

>>58850464
A small hassle (remove cooler, take out CPU, clean off TIM, put in new CPU, apply TIM, attach cooler).
You usually dont unless you have an old mobo and you're getting a new generation CPU (for example if you have z170 mobo and want to upgrade to 7th gen CPU you have to flash bios first).

>>58850479

ah okay I guess I'll stick to an i5 until the end of the year

what's needed for 2K @ 120-144hz? will a 1080 do?

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I have some questions about my impending build:
(pls don't complain about my power supply, it's for a long, long time, my old one is nearly 7 years old)
(also pls dont try to sell Ryzen to me, thanks india)

Is this a decent cooler?
Are these parts alright together?
Is it really worth buying a 1080 and why are zotac selling one for 180 less than everyone else?

>>58850595
look at some funcking benchmarks you lazy cunt

>>58850656
Yes.
Yes.
Only you can decide if that much money is worth the performance.
Is it a Demo unit?

But you should wait until march to see if anything happens when Ryzen is released.

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>>58850656
>>58850692

I have another question, maybe someone knows.

On the selection of MSI boards right now, some are over 100 quid more than the previous, just what the hell are people actually paying for here when the stats seem almost exactly the same.

Is just LED and rice tax? I'm tempted to just get the tomahawk.

>>58850692
>>58850656
BTW, I would get a 1070, but $180 cheaper for a 1080 is very tempting.
Personally I wouldnt buy Nvidia at all, but there's really no other choice if you want the better performance right now.

>>58850728

I bet you don't even know how to overclock.

>>58850728
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%2050001312%20600567584%20600009016&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=280%7C13-130-872%5E13-130-872%2C13-130-873%5E13-130-873%2C13-130-874%5E13-130-874&percm=13-130-872%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B13-130-873%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B13-130-874%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24

>>58850692
rude :(

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Just received a 1k bursary from uni for being a poorfag. the 1k bursary can only be used with a linked tech shop. The linked tech shop has a limited range of products and im looking to purchase a laptop as my current one died. This will be my main pc. for light gaming steam games mainly as well as my uni laptop for getting work done.

i know i can build a killer pc but unfortunately they don't sell pc parts.

the top one i gotta add 200 from my own pocket the bottom two are F R E E as in free beer not free software.
dont wanna shit up this board with a new thread so ill post here

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/4C9Ljc

>>58850913
Get the middle one and save yourself some money. Pro tip: Don't waste all your time, money and energy on playing stupid vidya during college.
t. college fag

>>58850752
Even if he doesn't he can learn basics that will be more than enough in half an hour.

Please be elitist about something that actually requires some thought.

What are the odds that rgb RAM will never be compatible with anything other than ASUS mobos?

>>58851349

>he

You can't disguise your butthurt.

>>58850913
>6th gen i5 CPU
>900 series mobile GPU
they're all outdated shit and that's a fucking ripoff price

Just get whatever and sell it and guy something with 7th gen i7 and 1050.

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>>58851356
Nah

>>58851401
stop feeding the troll you retard

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>>58851372
>she

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There needs to be some kind of build in the OP for all the people who ask "How can I make this build cheaper?" when they've spent more than $1000 and only get like a Skylake i5 and RX 470

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zQ9FxY

Add more RAM, storage and whatever case you need according to your budget but this is about as much of a bang for your buck you're going to get with a Kaby Lake i5 and an RX 480.

R8 my rig?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MdBHr7
Still needs storage. Brobably a 1tb HDD and a smaller SSD/NVMe for the OS and a couple other things.

>>58852431
Why get the 6700k over the 7700k when the 7700k only costs like 20 bucks more?

>>58852431
Gigabyte RX480 G1 is shit, get the XFX GTR.

>>58852537
I personally don't see a huge benefit to kabylake over skylake. Additionally, I know the 6700k is going to work with my mobo that I already own, and I can't guarantee the same about the 7700k without a BIOS upgrade.

>>58852574
I'll look into it, thanks.

>>58852631
It's still pretty dumb to go with the Skylake over Kaby Lake when it's going to have better performance for the money.

>>58852734
Kaby burns.

>>58852734
>better performance for the money
Lol no. Skylake has better performance for money.
Mobos are cheaper, CPUs are cheaper, doesn't require a stronger cooler like Kelvin Lake does and is about 1-5% worse in games while you can easily save 10% in cost.
The only Kaby Lake CPU with good performance for money is the Pentium G4560.

>>58852802
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700K/3647vs3502

7% more performance for less than $20 more is better performance for the money, sorry.

>>58852883
>ignores the fact that you need a more expensive mobo to use all its """features""" and a better cooler

>>58852883
CPU cost to CPU cost doesn't cut it.
You need to factor in the increased mobo and cooler costs. 7% more performance for $100-$250 more is not worth it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fgvFxY

Hit me with your hot opinions.

>>58852982
Opinion: this thread has seen better trolls and even worse retards than you. You're nothing new or shocking.

>>58853004
Cool, now spoonfeed me so I never need to come back then.

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>>58853020
No and fuck off.

>>58853043
You forget, I can deal with all of your salt. This is your holy land I'm apparently desecrating with my presence, and my presence will remain until I get the information I need to improve my understanding.

>>58853074
You won't get it here. The information is 1. in the OP and 2. on the internet, so do your research.
If you are too lazy for this, well then be a good goy and pay the prebuilt premium like all the other tech illiterates.

>>58853110
I mean I must be missing something here. The CPU, GC, and RAM are reasonable price/performance choices, with the other parts being cheap middle of the road platforms to support them. Sure the cooler is poor and the PSU isn't a big name brand, sure I went with 5200rpm for the storage drive, but I made sure all the parts are compatible and fit in the case, I made sure the H110m supports Kaby-Lake, I even made sure I didn't overshoot and buy a 1080 because I know I don't need 4k or VR. What you're saying is that you don't think I'm worth talking to because I didn't post a build with 4 Xeons, no cooler, a $1000 mobo and some gaming cancer case?

>>58853221
>now spoonfeed me
This is where you lost.

>>58853258
Well that's what we call directly telling people information instead of obfuscating it around here. And that's what I was hoping you'd do, instead of playing this roundabout game of "I'm just going to imply you fucked up but not tell you which aspect is wrong :^)" I can see you're deadset on just furthering us exchanging useless muck instead of having a fruitful discussion though, so if that's how you want your thread to go so be it.

>>58853297
I suggest you go back to the daycare for autistic milenials.
>>>/v/

>>58853327
I suggest you learn not to make assumptions about people on the internet if you want your attempted insults to ever hit home. Try again though, seeing you struggle and reach for reasons to keep being a dick instead of just giving in and being kind for all of the 5 seconds it would take to actually get rid of me is actually MORE entertaining than whatever I'd be doing with that rig anyway.

>>58853359
Already told you the reason, we don't spoonfeed pretentious kids in this thread.
You don't show interest in the topic whatsoever, you only want to be spoonfed which isn't going to happen.

>>58853416
You say that, but I already gave an example of how I attempted to do my own research before coming to the thread to ask for FURTHER advice. So I can simply conclude that that's your shit excuse for being obtuse.

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>>58853472
>how I attempted to do my own research
>attempted

>>58853519
Well from the way you phrased you initial response I've made the assumption that I made an error in judgement in my build. The only thing I can really see somebody taking issue with is the 7700, and that's such a subjective "error" that I can't conceive how somebody would label it as bait. So I say "attempted" because clearly in your eyes, in some way, I have failed. But instead of helping to address and rectify my error, you continue to skate around it, expending more effort in rebuffing me than you spend scrubbing yourself during your weekly shower. Funny image though, I'll give you that.

Rate my pc build:
-HDD: Western Digital Blue Hard drive 1TB
-RAM: Corsair 8 GB DDR4-2133
-CPU: i5-7600
-GPU: Gigabyte g1 gaming GTX 1060 6gb
-Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-B250M-D2V, socket 1151
-PSU: idk something 500-550Watt
-case: MS-Tech crow q1

>>58853642
I mean I would use it to play all of MY high-res HD fully voice acted dynamically rendered eroge.