/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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Kaby Lake has been released! Skylake is depreciated if corresponding chips are similarly priced (e.g., i5 7600K vs i5 6600K)!
>Some motherboards will have a one-click, 5GHz on air OC button that works for 80% of i5 7600Ks
>100 series chipsets (Z170, B150, ect) don't work out of the box with Kaby Lake
>Z series chipsets have an "Enhanced Turbo", which allows all cores to run at the highest single core boost clockspeed (works for Skylake CPUs as well)
>Pentiums now have hyperthreading, and are thus the new default budget / entry level gaming CPUs
>Pentium G4560 is the best price / perf four thread CPU on a modern platform
>All Kaby Lake CPUs work natively with 2400MHz DDR4 memory
>Do not underestimate the impact of fast (>2400, e.g, 3000MHz) RAM in conjunction with a Z series chipset, which often provides as much of a performance boost as a CPU overclock

Put together a list to maybe help out an anon looking for a semi-budget rig that performs well. - $735 not including the OS
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9xCgpb
Yes yes, I know, "but the 8350 is shit!" "am3 socket is dead!" But there's a few things to consider here; we're talking in the budget range of i3's and maybe MAYBE low-clock i5's but with some major component compromises. Benchmarks are showing the 8350 will outperform in a lot of cases even the overclockable kaby lake i3 at a much lower cost, which is the whole point of this.
The whole reason I did this list was because I saw that massive deal on that 990fx msi motherboard that should allow some really aggressive overclocks if you have the guts to do it, or just really stable overclocks at modest Freq/Volts.

What do you think? Case was kind of a crapshoot.

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Local shop selling Asus z170-A and z170 Pro Gaming for the same price. Which one is better?

>>58820070
Go Intel or wait for Zen

>>58820070
Looks fairly good
But the 8350 is shit and the am3 socket is dead
You also want at least an 80+ metal rating, you could do that for $5-10 more

>>58820070
i5 6400, cheapest MSI z170 board you can find, overclock to 4.2+GHz.
Do not settle for that shit you will regret it.

>>58820179
I actually revised the list to chop it down to ~$650

>>58820450
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BCP9Fd
oops

>>58820460
garbage

>>58820654
Care to elaborate?

>>58820775
You're paying good money for obsolete hardware.

>>58820775
trbl single thread
dead socket with only housefires to upgrade to
470 when 4gb 480 is almost the same price
meh ssd
overkill psu
you'd be better off with a 4560 on a b250 or a 6500 on a h-b 1xx for your money

overkill psu

>>58820460
For what fucking purpose do you need a Vishera CPU? That's obsolete technology.

>>58820929
The 600w is only $35. The lower models from the same product line aren't really cheaper. Not a ton of great bronze units for that price any way.
https://youtu.be/iQTmve0Xcak
The vishera 83xx chips beat out even the overclocking i3s let alone the pentium.
The GPU I will concede.

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is this ok for 1080p?

>>58821583
Yeah, although there's something to be said for getting the 1060 over the 480. Still looks alright though.

>>58821583
Mobo is just basic shit, no 3000 RAM, standard memegate HDD, no SSD, bad PSU for OC and overpriced case.
What a waste of 933€.

Will I have trouble if I get a 4gb card instead of 8? I need to calculate literally every buck but I finally need a new card.

>>58821998
Well it might stop being enough for ultra settings sooner than you think. If you are okay with lowering the settings or resolution, then you might do fine with it for a while.
It's also not like a the performce automatically shits itself down to 10 fps when the vram is exceeded a little.

http://pcpartspicker.com/list/fRvmWX

I intend to play games mostly. Some titles at lower settings obviously. I think the GPU may need an upgrade but keeping the price down is important. Anywhere else I could skimp?
Also don't worry about monitor, that's going to change most likely.

>>58820127
Help please.

>>58822596
It's shit.

>>58822653
Virtually the same mobo, get the one with preferred features or lower price.

>>58822667

>>58822596

Better GPU recs?

>>58822708
By it's shit i mean the whole build is complete shit.

>>58822740
I know it's a basic mobo with an i5 but I'm not looking for insane performance. I wouldn't call it shit.

>>58822828
You don't get it, do you? You don't even realize it... Just get a prebuilt and call it a day.
You have obviously not a single idea of what you're doing.

Is there any reason why i should pick a XFX RX 480 over a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 480?
They seem to be about the same except for the looks.
Just trying to figure it out before buying, the price is about the same.

>>58822887
The latter gets pretty hot I think.

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When I touch my case I get electrical shock.
Does this mean my PSU is shorting?

>>58823158
No it means you have carpeted floors

>>58823166
I don't have carpeted floor though.
And it's not static discharge.

>>58823257
But it literally is static discharge

>>58823257
It's not dynamic discharge, you would definitely feel 12 volts and you definitely would not feel 5 volts, your computer is running fine I assume?

>>58823283
Then why only my case gets me shocked?
>>58823295
Yeah, I've been shocked by car battery so I know the feeling.
>running fine
Well it shutdown at random or when it I run the mouse very fast it would freeze then shutdown.

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131706&Tpk=N82E16814131706

How's this brand?
Reviews look mostly positive, but I want to be sure because it looks a tad iffy. Sale price is pretty good though.

>>58822596
>>58822708
>>58822828
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rj7Zr7
like $15 cheaper and a whole lot better
btw you're a fucking idiot

>>58822828
He's just being a retard for no reason. You don't need a CPU cooler or thermal paste on a non overclockable CPU, mobo can be cheaper and I don't know what you have planned for the monitor but a 1050 Ti isn't going to be nearly powerful enough for 1440p at 60 FPS.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zQ9FxY

Same price with an infinitely better CPU and GPU.

That old mamasan they had doing the AMD product launch comparing Ryzen to a Skylake CPU only for the Ryzen to lose, well that doesn't seem too convincing. Basically AMD is saying that Ryzen can "almost" do what Skylake can but only like $50-$100 cheaper. Did they even account for the fact that Intel can simply lower their prices?

>>58823722
They did their best come on now

>>58821583
The RX480 is fucking expensive, here you go:

https://slickdeals.net/f/9742120-asus-rog-radeon-rx-480-8gb-gddr5-video-card-184-99ar?src=catpagev2

>>58823722
I'm still seeing absolutely zero price information where does /g/ keep figuring out how much cheaper than Intel it's gonna be, everybody seems to know but AMD

Is the 1050 still a better buy than the 460 if the 460 costs €125 and the 1050 costs €153 where I live? I'm just looking for something basic as shit to use as an eGPU

>>58823510
Shit. PowerColor sucks, single radiator cards run hot and loud.
Don't buy this unless you're a total poorfag whos priority is budget and budget only.

>>58823756
You can get a 1050Ti, which is better than the 470.

>>58823792
>1050Ti, which is better than the 470
nigga wut

>>58823792
No 470 is better than 1050ti
460 shouldn't be considered, both the 1050 and the 470 are much better price/performance (being at lower and higher performance levels)

>>58823776
Well it's sold out now so I'd be shit outta luck anyway.

I'll save up a little more to get a better brand.

Can anyone link me the price/performance sweet spot chart for CPU/GPU?

>>58823822
For AMD cards i'd stick to Asus, MSI, Sapphire and XFX.

>>58823792
>Should I get the €125 or the €150 card?
>Get the €190 card

I wouldn't have asked if I could do that

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>Get new laptop
>Big hype over Kaby Lake integrated graphics, able to run brand new games at 30fps and low-normal resolutions
>3200x1800 screen
Well this sucks, if I lower the game resolution to 1600x900 the mouse sensitivity gets all fucked up

>>58823853
Shut the fuck up.

>>58823846
For $50 you can have a machine that computes algorithms, processes data and networks for you, displaying all this information on a glowing array of electrically charged fluid
It doesn't get better price/performance than that

Hello friends, quick question that I'm sure is asked a lot. I have an i5-6500 in a rosewill tyrfing case. I live in the south where even with my wall A/C it gets pretty hot.

Best cpu cooler for less than $60? I know everyone says the 212 Evo but just asking. I have 3 case fans installed with the stock cpu fan and it runs pretty cold now in the winter but I'd prefer not to have a melted cpu

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>>58823853
>900p and 30fps
Nice video game console

Guys I just built my first PC, I bought, a FX4300, GTX 960, 600 PSU

Now just 2 days later I start it up, open H1Z1, after 1 minute.of being in game.it crashes my system, nothing I can, not even get to task manager.

So I turn it off and back on and no detection from my monitor, and loud fast fans.

I can only think it's my motherboard that's fucked up right? I changed ram and still no fix. So it's either motherboard or GPU correct?

I'm thinking its my motherboard cause even when I turn it on my Bluetooth mouse/keyboard doesn't sync, even though the power is there.

Please help bros, thanks.

>>58823982
Did you wear gloves or ground yourself when putting it together?

>>58823948
Cryorig M9i should be all you need for a locked CPU but if you want more then get the Cryorig H7.
The 212 is good but aged and gets BTFO by the H7.

I need a computer to use as a home server. I'd like to have access to all of my programs and files from my phone or anywhere else. What sort of hardware and programs do I need?

>>58824044
What do you think about a Cryorig C7 for an tiny ITX build with an i5-7500?

>>58823948

Dark Rock 3.

>>58824041

Yes I used anti static thingy on my wrist and it's been working fine for past 2 days, I was just waiting for more ram, installed that today and it worked fine until H1Z1 crashed it.

I thought maybe it's the RAM so I took it out and put the old one back on but nope still no detection from my monitor, tried different HDMI cable, maybe it's the GPU, but in the back of my mind I doubt it.

It must be the motherboard since it can't even detect my keyboard and mouse with the dongle in.

Right, right guys?, Ive ordered a new motherboard from Amazon prime, so should be here tomorrow I hope this is the issue

>>58824095
Did you check to see if your mobo is touching your case? Might be shorting. You did use the standoffs right?

>>58824075
Good choice.

>>58824109

Thanks for the quick responses hopefully I can narrow down the problem, yep I used the standoffs, the mobo is not touching the case

>>58824190
Most cases comes with standoffs pre-installed anyways...

>>58824220
Most but not all. Mine didn't.

>>58824220

Mine came with it but not pre-installed

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>tfw video game console assembly general

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>>58824572
>tfw this meme again

>>58823756
No. 1050 is better, but not THAT much better.

https://pcpartpicker.com

Already have the parts except the 1070, but I have extra money. What do next /g/

Considering a pre-built because its generally cheaper, I already have a PSU so I will be swapping out the PSU and installing my old GTX960. Can anyone build a similar PC for cheaper?

http://a.co/5GoRU6n

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>>58824867
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>>58824897
No that's just not possible, an i5 for $300. The i5 already cost like $200... Plus you get Windows 10 that isn't a pirate copy and full warranty instead of fixing it yourself, you can't beat this deal.

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Would it support an ASUS GTX 1050ti STRIX ?

>>58824897
Piggy backing off this post but if you're going to build a RX460/1050/1050 Ti rig, aren't you better off with just buying a prebuilt and installing the GPU in that?

>>58824986
Yes, and plus the idiots in here can not build anything remotely as cheap or as good for that matter.

>>58824897
>i5 Skylake
>8GB
>1tb hd
>500w PSU
>Bluray
>Windows 10 64bit home
There is no way in hell anyone can build this for $300, they can't even build this for $1000 because of the Blurray.

>>58824999
Of course you can't, that i5 alone is like $180

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Honestly muh-custom build is the ultimate snake oil, I'm sure that ugly ass LED RAM makes the thing with the same exact spec faster than my $300 ACER.

>>58825165
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought LEDs were for aesthetics and not performance
Or was I memed?

>>58824982
Does your board have a x16 pci slot? Will it fit in your case? Then yes.

>>58825339
Yes, but apparently my PSU doesn't have 8-pin, only 6-pin, I checked and 1050ti has 8-pin but for example GTX 1060 has 6-pin, is there another good alternative?

>>58825347
Zotac 1050TI doesn't need external power.

>>58825373
How is it powered?

>>58825395
how do you think it is?

>>58825395
Through the motherboard.

>>58825462
Thank you

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I have 3 GTX 980's installed in a Supermicro X10DRi (EATX) in a Phantek Enthoo Pro case. The middle card (unsurprisingly) is throttling. The bottom card gets pretty hot too because it is right up against the PSU shield. There are no fan mounts on the sides of the case so I am trying to increase airflow in the best way possible using the bottom or top fan mounts. These cards exhaust away from the motherboard so I'm not sure if adding fans that blow across the exhaust path would just cause the hot air to swirl around the case.


I'm not really sure what the best solution is, any ideas?

So the post about the Acer Aspire above got me thinking. I want to upgrade from my rig I built a few years ago with a i5 3570k, 8 GB RAM and Radeon HD 7850. Would it be a bad idea to just buy this for €525, reuse the PSU from my current rig and buy an 8 GB RX480 for the rest of my budget instead of trying to build an equivalent build for that price? I've already got a bunch of fully functioning parts, I just want to upgrade my CPU and GPU.

The cheapest rig I can build with a core i5 and RX480 would cost around €850 and that's without any storage since I already have the HDD and a SSD.

https://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/content/model/DT.B16EK.008

What's the cheapest CPU that would be a direct upgrade from an Ivy Bridge i5?

>>58825696
7600k

>>58825515
Or should I just buy it as it is and get a 1050 Ti since I only play games at 1080p?

>>58825701
6600k somehow overclocks faster...

>>58819987
Is windows vista still a good OS to use?

>>58825778
I've heard the opposite. Source?>>58825833
Vista was never a good os

>>58825887
Is it ok to use now? Like for gaming/emulation?

>>58825778
>>58825887
Celeron still has world record

How did i do guys?

-Two SP 140mm led fans from corsair just to have some leds
-C70 Vengeance Black
-beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3

i'm the anon from yesterday with the 8350 searching for a new case and cooler

>>58825040
A Blu-ray drive is like $40...?

store is offering a nice 'upgrade package' deal that includes a 7700k yet its cheaper than buying the 6700k when bought seperately. if i run it with a noctua NH-D15 is it viable to run it at 4.8GHz day and night?

>>58825833
you'll probably run into compatibility issues with certain (newer) games. i tried installing UE4 for content creation on a vista system last year and it wouldn't work (certain functionality and graphics features didnt support vista anymore)

>>58826243
Does vista work with retroarc/pcsx2?

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>>58819987

>>58826189
>Corsair
>Be Quiet!
Terrible. Go with Noctua and SeaSonic/Super Flower next time.

>>58826330
i'm almost sure that the bequiet! is waay better than the stock amd cooler i have now.
Also noctua looks like shit, and the industrial/redux fans aren't that good as the beige ones

>>58825504
bump? any airflow experts in here?

>>58826243
Most likely, yes. I can run mine at 5ghz on a h60, which isn't that good a cooler

>>58825504
>>58826460
What you need to do is either buy two 120mm industrial-grade fans that spin up to 3000rpm for the front air vent or get rid of the middle 980.
If I remember correctly, one of the server racks I worked on last year disabled the salad spinners on their Quadro M6000s, removed the metal covers on the cards, and let their 80mm Delta fans do all the air pushing over the two main heatsinks.

You might have to consider water-cooling loops if you want to keep all three cards nice and cool.

Is this about the best Price/Performance I could get at this price range? (650-700$)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dh3jLD

Any things I could improve?

Okay . After 15 months of being evicted and having to leave my newly built desktop in storage.

Here's my question. I'm not a big gamer. I only play D3 right now. I have an i5-4460 and have been using my T420 memepad

What would be a good GPU for desktop that is average price and a nice step up? I'm not big into AMD, but if one is good for price I am down

been thinking of getting the faractal design Define S case but while I prefer the windowed version, silence is more of a priority. Is it much louder if I don't get the closed panel? Should I consider the P400S instead?

>>58828246
Here's my build. I finally got an apartment due to bad credit poor single dad etc and am stoked to have my own place and desktop/monitor etc back

here's my build btw only i have 32gb of ripsaws sealed I haven't added yet

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/antsunrise/saved/#view=FYsLkL

>>58826382
(You)

>>58828237
Fuck no... see: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bf6PYr
Cooler is optional but recommended, unless you enjoy the sound starting jets.

>>58828675
Should I get 2x4GB of RAM? don't know if 1x8GB was is that much of a step down.

>>58828770
2x configuration will give you a small performance boost, but most dual kits are a little more expensive.
Your mobo has four slots, so upgrading to 16GB isn't an issue. Imho if you can spare $2-5 bucks more, yeah.

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Not exactly build related but anyone got recommendations on an "ok" flightstick for <200, was looking at this one for awhile but amazon still doesnt have it back in stock

>>58828997
Basically the thrustmaster stuff is good, there an orange model that's sold out that has dank hardware in a cheaper stick

>>58829097
do they all have to look like transformers

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>>58828770
did it. 1440p TOWER for the ~ price of a 1070.
>>58828770
single vs dual channel means nothing in games.
>>58828348
480 4GB. Sell that 32gb kit while the prices are high. Unless you're doing vm on that haswheel
your current 16gb is more than enough.

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>>58829272
didn't mean to quote >>58828770 the first time

that ivy turbo plus sure helps

Wanted to use my tax refund to do some upgrading.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hnsPYr

The $0.00s are things I plan on reusing from my current build.

Anything I'm fucking up here? I'm assuming its better to buy a new psu instead of reusing my 4 year old one.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fc6PYr
Trying to make a portable pc/hackintosh, this is my 2nd time building and I wanna make sure I'm doing everything right, anything wrong here?
I'm debating whether or not I should get a better processor (I'm coming from an amd build) and I'm also debating whether or not I should get a mobo with usb type c, any advice or suggestions on that?
Thanks.

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why are the featured builds on pcpartpicker so terrible

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QZwpNN

thoughts?

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Any mini ITX/micro ATX mobo for AMD chipset with 4 SATA-III and libreboot support?

Am I asking for too much?

>>58829693

get 2x4 ram instead

I just brought all my parts but I had a few questions about Windows.

I have the Windows iso to boot from a USB stick
and I have KMSPortable from the MDL fourms

Since its my first real build I'm a little nervous about installing it, Is there anything I should know before I go for it?
Just looking for some reassurance, We we're all virgins once ;_;

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dgQgpb

Would upgrading to 2400 ram, i5 7500 and a h270 board be worth the $50~75?

>>58823792
Fuck off with this shit.

If someone wants advice about two parts, they obviously do not want to to spend more than the highest part.

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I'm stuck on motherboards. I had this one picked out, but I can't think of any way to connect all these 1/8 jacks to my stereo receiver.

Do optical ports do 5.1? I don't think my HDMI passthrough works, so that's my only other option.

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>>58830363
>5.1
>stereo

>>58830424
7.1 AV receiver. Excuse me.

>>58830556
Oh
Yes all digital formats are capable of transferring multi-channel data

>>58830363
How does your receiver normally accept 7.1 sound? Don't tell me it's a speaker-wire-era receiver

>>58830809
speaker-wire-input era*
Speaker wire output is acceptable in the last decade or two, especially on surround sound setups

>>58819987

So OP...care to mention your recent power bill?

>>58829374
That list is fine except youre overpaying for the gpu. Go to /r/buildapcsales and find a much cheaper 480. Also note Kaby Lake is Windows 10 exclusive.

>>58829693
Same poster here, I'm wondering is 550W good for this build?

>>58829480

>>58830809
>>58830855
No, it's fairly modern. I'd assume over HDMI would be the norm

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>>58830950
pic

>>58830916

After that post I searched a bit and found that $199 480 while checking newegg, but I appreciate the tip regardless.

I heard it was possible to get 7 working on Kaby, but it just wouldn't be supported? If not then I can make due with 10 and just turn off as much of the garbage as I can.

My trusty i5 2500k is nearing the end of its life. It has served me well all these years, even with a moderate OC and a mediocre cooler. It began it's partnership with a 550ti, and has since upgraded to a 470.
My (tentative) planned upgrade path is:
-april-
Ryzen 8core or perhaps a 6core
am4 mobo
2x8gb of DDR4 RAM
m.2 drive

-october-
Vega GPU (but who knows what will be best in 8 months)
4k monitors

What do you guys do with obsolete computer parts? I already have a Samba server running on power efficient hardware, no need more better hardware. Gave my 550ti to my little cousin.

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https://www.pccasegear.com/sc/eiV

How's my build? Aussie prices btw

Going all out on pretty much everything as I intend to use this for 5 to 10 years through uni (majoring in maths/physics) and well into a job. Also for gaming.

Is there sufficient wattage for an additional 1080 in future?

Could two 1080s give 144fps at 2k res?

Reckon the CPU cooler would fit with the RAM on the motherboard? advice would be great especially if anyone has a similar build

>>58831012
Sorry I didnt pay close enough attention at first. The Z270 mobos are for overclocking you need a chip that says K to do that. Get a B250 mobo and save yourself money.

Honestly though if you want W7 just get a skylake build Kaby Lake didnt add much at all.

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>W7 cant be installed on kabylake
your move microsoft

>>58831215
Consider an m.2 drive
That keyboard is overpriced, check the keyboard general
Ram and cooler will fit fine
Not the case I would choose, but it should be fine
Consider some good quality fans

And the best advice: don't splurge on a 1080 right now, if you have a card to tide you over for a few months you can save a lot of money, or for the same price get better performance.

>>58831280
I'm happy with the transfer speeds of a regular SSD. Does m.2 have any advantage over an SSD besides transfer speeds?
Cheers about the keyboard advice
Again cheers, clearence was my biggest worry
I had a few other cases in mind but that was the cheapest one I could find that had two USB 3.0 ports to go with the mobo, I've checked clearence and compatibility with all components
Also cheers

I have no card. This will be funded with scholarship money so I don't mind overspending. I won't be purchasing this until April-ish though so I'll keep an eye out for GPU alternatives, cheers

>>58831215
The only immediate problem is you have a Freesync monitor with an Nvidia card and your 150 dollar meme case wont ship until August.

However:
>You dont need an i7 even with physics and math applications which I also use.
>Dont get an 850 evo when you can get a 500gb ssd for the same price and youll never know the difference
>50 dollar cpu fan on a 500 dollar cpu

And the biggest is youre buying this whole system right before Ryzen and Vega drop and massively reduce prices in the intel and Nvidia dominated high end markets. Wait a few months and youll have comparable performance for 1000 dollars less.

Would I have issues with heat throttling with an M.2 SSD mounted on the back of the motherboard?

>>58831396
No?

Unless you have abysmal airflow

>>58831424
I would imagine that the amount of air going behind the motherboard would be abysmal.

>>58831369
>meme case wont ship until August
It's not US format for dates. 08/02 is February 8th in most countries that aren't the US.

>Freesync monitor with an Nvidia card
Didn't know they had compatibility issues, I'll look into it, thanks

>dont need an i7
I figured it would give me the longest lifetime and best performance which is what I'm aiming for since it's basically funded with free money

>Dont get an 850 evo
I saw all/most of the builds in the OP had evo SSDs so I figured it was a highly reputable and well-built SSD which is preferable over cost for me

>50 dollar cpu fan on a 500 dollar cpu
is this bad? again i saw this cpu cooler in the builds, plus i heard it's a highly common cpu cooler. what would you suggest?

>youre buying this whole system right before Ryzen and Vega drop
yeah like i just said in >>58831353 it's not going to be bought next week, i'll wait for the price drops so thanks for the advice

>Brother built pc
>Everything powers up and LEDs are on
>Cant figure out why it wont POST
>I take a look around
>One ram stick is not fully inserted, maybe 80% in on one side so it was crooked
>Plug it in an restart
>Still nothing.
Could that be the issue?
His parts
Nvidia 1080 FE
I7 7700k
Corsair Veng 16gb ddr4 ram
MSI z170 SLI plus

Could he have fried his ram which is what stopping it from working?

>>58831784
probably, switch the ram out and see if the problem goes away

I bought a macbook pro the other day. It was the worst mistake of my life. I don't even know why I bought a laptop at all. I've always been a desktop user.

I'm going to return it tomorrow. Thank god for the 14 day return window. Now I have 2000 fucking dollars to spend on a new PC. I specced it out and it comes to about 1000 dollars for what I want. What do you think? THis is the most I've ever spent on a PC.

Core i5 7600k
16GB of ram
1TB HDD WD blue
nvidia 1060
corsair 100r case
corsair 550W psu

Is corsair still a good brand for PSUs? I haven't built a PC in about 3 years.

Should I get an SSD for the OS? Is it a noticeable difference? I want to save some money from that 2000 to get a nice monitor, mechanical keyboard and a good mouse.

>>58831805
Unfortunately I don't have anything to switch it with since his dumbass already sold his old parts.

I tried swapping each card one by one and still nothing.

>>58831836
\_(ツ)_/

perhaps a friend has some ram or you can try swapping it out with some other computer you have access to

>>58831829
Absolutely get an SSD, or even an m.2 drive. The difference is noticable.

wat shud i do if my cooler wont fit on my mobo?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/pmXZr7

>>58825306
It is. He doesn't know what "snake oil" means.

quick question. Building a pc for a friend.

i5 6500
gtx 1060

would a 500w psu suffice?

What's a nice monitor for a non-gamer? IPS seems to be the consensus. I'd like two at ~$250 each. I'm looking at 24", but is that two big for a dual monitor setup?

just finished my budget build(1st time building a pc since hl2 came out. last time before that was a pentium II)

Asus 970 pro gaming motherboard
fx 8350 (4.5ghz)
16gb hyperX
xfx rx 480 gtr (8gb)
kingston SSD(120gb)
1tb WD Black

did i do ok? i get a solid 80fps on a 3 monitor setup on bf1

>>58832116

yep, but get an RX480 instead of a 1060

>>58832133
The korean monitors QNIX, XStar. 27 inch IPS 2560x1440 and OC to at least 90hz. I think they are down to like $200 too. Huge upgrade from 1080p 24 inch. Definitely worth it.

>>58832197
yeah, not going with amd.

Is the 1060 3gb really as shit as /g/ makes it out to be? I've already ordered one but I'm worried I'll get buyers remorse. Is it worth returning and getting a 480 which is about 60 dollars more?

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Is this enough, or should I upgrade my gpu?

OK y'all. PC virgin looking to build my first ever rig and I've been going back and forth with r/buildapc over this sucker and I think it's looks good enough to buy stuff.

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/WwfDM8

I'm in NZ so everything's expensive as shit so don't worry about the $$$. Since this is my first ever build I put in the G2770PF as well which is apparently a good entry level 144hz monitor with freesync, so as long as I can figure out the whole setup process I should be alright. Comments?

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>>58832209

Why not?

It's cheaper and better.

Building a budget Kaby Lake rig with my brother's old R9 280X with some room for upgradeability. Already have storage. Made up this list after a lot of research. A lot of the shit is coming from Jet which gives a huge discount. Anything wrong with these parts?

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HCNDM8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HCNDM8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($53.03)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($51.31)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($51.35)
Other: MSI B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX Motherboards - Intel ($65.99 @ B&H)
Other:
Total: $281.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-07 00:15 EST-0500

>>58819987
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/XYvdCJ
$1600 budget gaming PC, attempt at future proofing and getting nice aesthetics
Rip no rgb fans with ASUS Aura compatibility
>inb4 rgb rainbow haha ur a fag
Please let me know of any lower priced parts without compromising quality

>friend wants to build a PC
>doesn't know anything
>wants to pay $70 more than he has to for a mobo just because it has better sound

should I bother reasoning with him? the worst part is he's on a small budget

>>58832294
No. Let normies be normies. Unless he seems genuinely convinced that better sound matters

>>58832294
Explain that nobody should ever pay more for better sound because it's all shit anyways and he should buy an external DAC/amp, such as a schiit fulla 2 or a magni/modi stack.

>>58832282
Loading up your entire case with fans is not that great an idea. Stick with three. And holy fuck.
>Over $20 per fan
>Not even Noctuas.

>>58832239
Not until Ryzen comes out

>>58832316

I don't understand your logic..

>>58832312
Can you recommend some for me? I need some static pressure ones

>>58832328
Amd will (hopefully) be competitive again with Intel after a long time

>>58832234
>everything's expensive as shit so don't worry about the $$$
>everything's expensive as shit
>so don't worry about the $$$
Anon are you high

>>58832258
>300 bucks
>is on the same tier as my $900 pc
just take my life away

>>58832347

I really don't have a choice unless I want to save a few bucks getting everything shipped over and I'm not that patient.

>>58832334


I still don't understand what you're on about. I simply said the RX480 is cheaper and better than the 1060, and you said you didn't want AMD, and now you're going on about their upcoming CPUs.

>>58832329
If you're getting this "static pressure only" thing from the Overclock.net guys, don't bother. As long as they aren't the thin-blade propeller kind, anything goes. Look for a fluid dynamic bearing as well or another quality bearing technology.

If you want a recommendation, Noctuas.

What do you think?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DXghBP

Is that PSU big enough/good enough or should I spend a little more? It's only bronze certified. Does that matter?

>>58832374
Never heard of overclock.net. The area im putting my pc in has limited airflow.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ANONS DONT SPEND $100-200 ON WINDOWS 10 YOU CAN GET WINDOWS 10 PRO FOR LIKe $30 HERE https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/

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>>58832407
Well what area is it?

Static pressure optimized fans are for things like radiators. If it's something like a dust filter or a hard drive cage or a fan grill, just use a general purpose blade fan.

>>58832390
80+ is a company that rates how much power your power supply is saving when you convert dc power to power your pc can use.

>>58832411

Is this legit or whoreshit or what. Seriously now, I need to know.

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>>58832423
Nah, a semi old, thick huge wooden desk. Probably 5ft 6in. Pic kinda related without that top row of cabinets

>>58832447
Trust my man. You know that YouTuber Paul's Hardware? Uses this website all the time

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>>58832447
it looks quite legit

not who you're replying to btw

>>58832450
Like where is it set? It shouldn't really matter unless the case is completely enclosed.

is there any real advantage in marrying mobo+gpu brands like mis+msi?

>>58832473
The desk or the area i will put the PC? If desk, against an adobe brick wall in a dusty ass room. If pc, in like a cabinet in the desk close to the floor. It has a little wooden slidey door thst sticks out and annoys me when its open

>>58832486
Only for your autism.

I'm going asus mobo gpu and optical drive, and corsair ram, case and psu. I want it to match because I have OCD.

>>58832447
The website is Kinguin, its like G2A almost. Its legit, about $32 with buyer protection. I use it often

>>58831396
Depends on the M2
Something like a 950 pro, yes it will throttle if you're writing at 100% load for minutes at a time

>>58832506
There's no fan that will suck air through a sealed cabinet door. Just take it off and figure out something with the back. Otherwise your computer will be hotboxed.

do cases come with enough fans out of the box if I'm not overclocking?

>>58832423
Also for the fan: Noctua NF-P14s? These seem pretty darn good

http://www.skycomp.com.au/msi-z270m-mortar-mb-z270-lga1151-4x-ddr4-1x-m-2-6x-sata-dvi-d-hdmi-dp-2x-pci-e-x16-usb-3-1.html

same price

http://www.skycomp.com.au/gigabyte-ga-z270m-d3h-mb-z270-lga1151-4x-ddr4-1-m-2-usb-3-1-type-c-dvi-vga-hdmi-matx-motherb.html

which is "better"?

So how's this for a first ever build:

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212X 82.9 CFM CPU Cooler
Mamaboard: Gigabyte GA-Z270-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
SSD: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC Video Card
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
PSU: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

Going to be used mainly for gaming but sometimes some CAD work for my work calls for it. I want it to last as is for a few years without doing anything drastic to it which is why I've spent a bit more than what I had in mind. Suggestions?

>>58832567
Yeah, that's good. If you don't care about the color, the NF-A14 is like 3 bucks more.

>>58832591
3 bucks? Compared to Noctua NF-P14s, they are $10 more (on pcpartpicker)! Unless theres some magical website that you use that has them for 18 dorras, then you are a bit off. I might as well stick with the ones i chose in the first place

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>>58832656
Amazon.

>>58832577

gigabyte one

the msi one is gaymur trash

Is it worth it to get the i5-7500 or should I just get the pentium g4560 (not planning on overclocking)? How big of an fps increase is there on gayming? GPU is GTX 1060 6GB by the way.

Is full SSD storage viable in [the current year]?

>>58832682

yeah but why is it trash besides aesthetics

>>58832816
Why not just say 2017? Are you some kind of time traveler anon? And yes, it is viable unless you are on a low budget

>>58832720
A pentium will throttle. Get an i5. Also many games are very CPU dependant.

>>58832844
Msi has horrible quality, especially low budget ones. Go with gigabyte or asus

Is the GTX 1060 THAT much better than the 1050 Ti that its worth the extra $90? Or should I just save up and get better one later?
>inb4 radeon is better
No that wasnt my question

>>58832869
>Msi has horrible quality

bollocks

>>58832239
480 may be cheaper and runs a few games better than the 1060, but it runs into more problems.

Also, amd.

>>58832887
Yes, also if you can save a little more for the 1070 I would do it. It is worth it.

>>58832581
Good, consider a NVME SSD tho

>>58832932
>but it runs into more problems

go on

>>58832229
Keep it for now unless what you play isn't SLI compatible

>>58832866
>many games are very CPU dependent
But I've heard the opposite? Many games are very GPU reliant, not CPU reliant.

>>58832978
It's both. Good GPU = needs decent CPU to feed it, but almost anything recent will do.

Open world/heavy physics games/MMOs require a good CPU to process UI threads/etc so they require a really good cpu.

I want to get a GTX 1080, but not sure what card to get
>reference
>cooler/card with the fans on it
>hybrid cooler
My case is big, so ideally either of the three would work, but which one is the best style in terms of keeping temperatures down?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TskmWX

should i go for Kaby Lake or is it not worth it?

>>58833070
Why wouldn't you?

>>58829480
paid shills obviously.

>>58833070
If you're going to go with that setup, at least get 3000MHz ram dude, and you don't need 750w, unless you're planing future upgrades

>>58833070
Bump that cooler up to the NH-U14s. Great performance and quiet as hell.

Need a 550w min psu. 80+, mod perferred.

Broke after car repairs, a vet bill and and my PSU shits the bed.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BIEOCI/
>620 80+b standard $45
.
vs
.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00918MEZG/
>620 80+g semi mod $60

Any better deals? guts say get the modular and eat ramen

Is an i3 6100 gtx 1060 6gb/3gb still good for a budget PC or is there anything new?

>>58833436
Instead of an i3-6100, might be a good idea to go for a G4560 for half the price

>>58833449
Will it bottleneck with the gtx 1060 6gb or would the 3gb version better?

>>58833515
I'm not entirely sure if that will even make a difference. I watched this video which was pretty informative, but I'm not sure which 1060 he's using: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUapuF0y30s

Rate my build!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rTjq7h

sorta holding on to see if Ryzen/Vega is worth anything, god knows i'd love to get in on some FreeSynch action.

also, what's your 2 cents on 1080p@25" vs 1440p@27"?

is IPS backlight bad enough to keep you using TN panels?

Is there any significant difference between realtek alc892 and alc1150?

>>58834095

no

do not fall for the bullshit they try to spin to sell their more expensive mobos

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the time has come

>>58834144
Why the keyboard and mouse? Were you only using a laptop before?

>>58834152

Are you poor?

So I'm looking to replace all my case fans and do a mild refresh of my build in the hopes I can make it substantially quieter. Problem being is I suspect that Intel will be releasing Cannonlake toward the end of the year, and naturally I have to best my friend's recently built rig. As such my commitment to adopting Cannonlake are sealed. My problem is I've never used aftermarket CPU cooling solutions, so I don't know whether the mounting methods remain consistent between sockets or if most manufacturers offer a new mounting bracket to accommodate the new sockets assuming they use a different screw pattern. Anybody got any input or should I just hold my fucking horses and deal with the shit bearings rattling around in my case?

>>58834181
That answer doesn't make any sense. You must be retarded?

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is the i3 7100 any good? I'm looking for an upgrade to my i5 4590 and been wondering if I should get that one or the i5 7400.

To be honest, I didn't even want to upgrade now but since I'm making a mini ITX build I'll have to buy a new mobo to fit it, and 1150 mobos are dated and as expensive as 1151 ones, so yeah, upgrading the CPU is an unfortunate necessity.

>>58834199
No point in going from an i5 to an i3 unless you only do things like playing video games and no content creation

>>58833895
TNs are kinda shitty, buddy has one and the light leak is beyond noticeable and can be pretty distracting depending on the tone of the displayed image. It's relatively old, so maybe take my advice with a grain of salt but my Vizio E32 beats it out with insofar as leaks/blacks. If I were you I'd wait for Samdung to drop some newer smaller panels with their Quantum Dot tech as they are a really good middle ground boasting a 100hz refresh with reasonable blacks and great color accuracy and from what I could tell no leaks.

Sup gents!
I am going to be upgrading my cpu (and mobo+ram) to i7-7700k next week - could you advise me on RAM ?

I am thinking of getting 32GB of DDR4 - what sort of clockspeed should the DDR4 be ?

Any issues with i7-7700k using higher clockspeed ram than 2400mhz (was just looking at the intel website spec).

Also is 32gb an OK idea? I realise it is a bit of an overkill but then so is K series so I guess I have a little bit of extra cash.

>>58834095
mobo audio is nothing to worry about these days, it's generally better to buy an external dac if you actually care though

>>58834230

this Quaantum Dot technology is new to me, currently looking it up, and it sounds really cool!

Do you have any experience with curved monitors? they look so ugly...

>>58834233
>32gb
Completely depends on usage. 16GB leaves comfortable breathing room for just gaming, even 8GB is still adequate.

>>58834255
http://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/curved/34--cf791-wqhd-monitor-lc34f791wqnxza/

That's the panel I got to play with. I couldn't give an honest answer about the curve though; frankly it's pretty useless. With a more aggressive curve and a closer viewing distance you could fill more negative space in the peripheral, they're a ways from that though. but the 21:9 ratio was really impressive just because it filled more of the field of view. The resolution is the only off-putting feature. You can pump out Overwatch with a 1070 easily enough, even reaching 100fps, but other more taxing games simply can't take advantage of the monitor due to the high resolution at which point you're given a couple of shitty options (scaling, lowering settings). I'm really hoping they'll release a similar panel with a more conservative resolution for gaming as I was legitimately impressed overall.

>>58819987
Alright dudes, I built my pc and have been fucking around with it for a couple of hours but now I have the "activate windows" popup in the bottom right, Where do I get a working key generator?

>>58834350
Microsoft toolkit

>>58834233
16 is plenty unless you're running VMs

>>58834199
4590 is way better than either the 7100 or 7400

>>58834190
Unlikely that any current CPU coolers will work for Cannonlake natively but there will probably be adapters

>i7 is $150 more than i5

what do - I'm too impatient to wait for Ryzen

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I made my first one about a month ago with a little help to clean up the wiring, how did I do? I intend to give it a good clean out for the dust pretty soon, it's been hot as fuck here

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>>58834711
And w/ speccy

>>58833214
the second one is 550w tho..
If you need around 550w I would go with the 620. bronze to gold isnt much difference and both are good.

>>58833436
a 4560 w/ 2400 is about the same as a 6100 w/ 2133.

4560 8gb b250 and either a 470/4 or 1060/6
>>58833515
never get the 3gb

1050
470 4gb
1060 6gb=480 8gb
1070
wait

>>58834199
>so should i downgrade or sidegrade?
wizza plz

if you have a matx just get a htpc case

>>58834580
get the i7 or no one will respect you

>>58834580

>too impatient

then get the i7 just to be safe - so you won't have to spend money for years to come

>>58834233
If you only use your computer for gaming, get 16GB and invest spare cash in literally any other part of your PC.

If you like running 5 demanding virtual machines for whatever reason, get 32GB.

>>58834271
8GB is plenty for most games, but some like to use more - for example, Rust uses up to 12GB for me.

>>58834554
Can you throw me a link to the toolkit man? I've only found some pretty nasty mal/adware.

>>58834920

google

>>58834964
i did nigger
tried 3-4 different downloads
each one was malware
actual malware not windows defender alert malware

>>58831215
139Dolaritos for Win10 licence? why?

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>>58834554
>4590 is way better than either the 7100 or 7400

>>58834758
>>so should i downgrade or sidegrade?
>wizza plz
>if you have a matx just get a htpc case

So just buying a mATX mobo for it is good enough? well, guess I'm lucky then. I'd like to move to DDR4 ram, but I guess I'll just stick with my DDR3 for a while longer then.

>>58834920
torrent it

>>58833037
Hybrid is coolest, fan is fine, reference is only better for small cases.

I want to upgrade the RAM of my laptop and I don't know how to find out if it supports 8 GB sticks or not. Some sources say yes, others say no. What could be limiting the size except for the chipset and CPU?

>inb4 google it

>>58836175
what are you doing on that old piece of shit vaio that you need 12gb for in the first place?

>>58836280
A lot of virtual machines for uni.

>>58834711
what the fuck, i have the exact same case and i physically cannot get any of my thick psu cables behind the motherboard tray and the back panel.

how the fuck did u do it.

>>58834350
KMS and toolkit are both "officially" on the MyDigitalLife forums.

Everyone's favourite website Reddit told me where to get it.

>>58832390
Any more thoughts?

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Yo, how does this deal look guys? (pic)

im using a D15 because fuck that other shit.

Price: $2100

comes with a full 3 year insurance and is prebuilt.


for price reference, heres a build i made myself finding cheap parts, no insurance or prebuild, though (note the i5):

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rTjq7h

costs $1800


not your ordinary question, but i guess i just wanna know if the prebuilt is retarded, and if the +$300 is worth the cpu upgrade, insurance, prebuild and gayass bonus components.

thanks in advance if anyone can help!

>>58837808
PSU is trash and 2.1k is just retarded. CPU is only worth it if you're going to use it, insurance is hardly worth it and gayass bonus components are gayass.

>>58837808
Insurance? Against what? If it's the "send it in, we fix it" meme, not worth the extra money, you can fix it yourself. They'll most likely just jew you if something breaks outside of warranty anyway.

If you have to ask, the CPU upgrade isn't worth another 120 bucks. I've been happy with my razer mousepad, but you probably don't need it.

What would be interesting are the PCIe SSD, as it's faster than the SSD you picked. Oh, and never cheap out on the HDD.

Build it yourself, it's really not hard.

>>58837978
what do you mean the PSU is bad, whats bad about it? and yeah, 2.1k is a lot of money, but pc parts have always been retardedly expensive in Denmark.

>>58837997

its the "send it in, we fix it", idk if thats a meme or not, had friends use that insurance before. i shit you not its this expensive here, insurance is easily 10-15% more, no joke.
its 3 years of insurance, doesnt seem that bad to me.

not that worried about building, its just an added bonus i suppose.

you'd do 3TB HDD > 2TB SSHD?

>tfw want to wait for Ryzen
>but right now don't even have a PC
What do?

>>58838112
Budget PSUs from Corsair are housfires with chink capacitors and even worse if you want to OC.

>>58838130
Wait it out with me.

>>58838112
That's probably not really an insurance though, they just handle warranty for you and install the parts.

I'd get a 3TB HGST Deskstar, WD Red or Seagate. Seagates failing left and right is a meme, they're as good or bad as WD these days, HGST is top tier.

>>58838193
I do have this Mac but I really want to have a PC when ME:A comes out.

>>58838155
idk dude, im reading reviews and didnt see a reason to change, sounds like its eiter DOA, dies within a day, or is fine.

can change it to a Fractal Design Integra M 550W for an extra $25

>>58838204
i already have a seagate SSHD in the deal, why change to a HDD of the same brand?

I'm looking for price/performance on Skylake CPUs. Intended use is gaming, streaming/recording, and light video editing/content creation

>>58838473
I doubt the Integra is that much better, the Edison would be. Thing is, if you want to OC you want a PSU that's well built and performs great.
To get a general idea about PSUs see: http://i.imgur.com/361pNaI.png
Do note the list is outdated, it does not mention the EVGA G3, Super Flower Leadex II, no idea if there's an updated version.

>>58838731
>gaming, streaming/recording, and light video editing/content creation
If your budget allows it get the i7-6700K. You'll appreciate the additional threads when rendering your videos, also helps with some games such as Total War.

>>58838155
Not him, but what kind of PSU would you get? A more expensive corsair or another brand? I was going to get a CX550M.

>>58838747
>If your budget allows it get the i7-6700K. You'll appreciate the additional threads when rendering your videos, also helps with some games such as Total War.
Yeah, I was leaning towards the i7 series, since that's what's in my current laptop (even though it's a shitty 3rd gen)
Overclock-potential is a plus.
Thanks, my dude.

>>58838748
For OC builds either EVGA G3 or Super Flower Leadex II, the later is not available in US.
For non OC or budget builds.. whatever your budget allows, what you need and what you want, see link in post >>58838747 for recommended PSUs.

>>58838473
>i already have a seagate SSHD in the deal, why change to a HDD of the same brand?
I meant if you decided to build it yourself, I'd switch out the Toshiba HDD for a HGST, WD or Seagate. Simply because I've never had one of these 3 fail on me, so that's just my opinion.

>>58838747
>>58838787

thats a super cool list actually, i'm gonna try finding an updated version, if one exists, anyways, im gonna skip out on this deal thing, i forget that pc parts that arent shit quality, dont tend to break and eat shit often enough to justify the insurance desu.

aditionally, i-7 is something i can afford anyways, and probably wont get, ill be sticking with my own build.

it was mainly just a "oh hey, this offer just came up and doesnt look horrible"

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rTjq7h
is the build i've pretty much settled on, but i always like getting more opinions, thoughts? anything you'd change personally?

>>58836387
a hole lotta elbow grease

>tfw everyone ignores your post

>>58824062
pay for cloud storage

>>58838787
noidea who HGST are, other people told me Toshiba > WD/Seagate

>>58838865
Hitachi

>>58824062
Build a NAS

>>58838865
Hitachi bought IBM's HDD division and make it Hitachi Global Storage Technologies Ltd (HGST), which was recently bought by Western Digital (WD). They're probably the best HDDs you can find, I have an old Hitachi drive that uses a PATA connector and MOLEX for power and still works perfectly. I should check if it has run 1,000,000 hours yet, probably.

How do I install a 2.5" SSD? Is it the same process as a normal 7200rpm drive?

>>58838945
Treat it as you would any other 2.5" drive.

>>58838836
Expensive, but good and well balanced build. Only two one minor thing, if you can find the EVGA G3 get that one, it's an improved version of the G2, and maybe add 1 or 2 case fans.

>>58838865
HGST/Hitachi > Toshiba > WD and Seagate. Personally i'd rather buy Toshibas P300 series and call it a day than buy some ancient Hitachi 7K2000 or 7K3000 leftovers.
If i'd go full good goy and spend a ridiculous amount of shekels i'd consider only HGST, though, namely the newer 7K6000.

Looking for a CPU cooler to match my rig (orange/black) (LGA 1151 socket).
I want something that can handle a lightly overclocked CPU. Preferably a fan+heatsink, but if I need to get an AIO to handle the heat load and be safe, that's no problem aside from the higher cost.
[spoiler]I wish Noctua still made the LTT fans, or at least had orange vibration pads.[/spoiler]

>>58839011
>>58838926

i couldnt find the G3 initially, let me look around a bit more, and yeah, currently reading on case fans, seems like noctua fans are the forever go-to, no?

how bad is "HGST H3IKNAS30003272SE 3TB Deskstar" for an extra $45

Guys guys, Intel has dropped the price of their i5-7600k to fight Ryzen to $240 MSRP, so street price should be around $210-$220. Should I get this now or continue to wait for Ryzen. Also the GTX 1070 can now be had for $309.

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>>58839011
>ancient Hitachi 7K2000 or 7K3000 leftovers
>the newer 7K6000
Bruh what?

>>58839068
>seems like noctua fans are the forever go-to, no?
Absolute meme fans, but I'm a fan of memefans.
>how bad is "HGST H3IKNAS30003272SE 3TB Deskstar" for an extra $45
Good HDD, very bad deal.

>>58839102
no kidding dude, danish market is garbage, its why im paying $600 more than you'd have to for the same thing. what can you do i guess.

>>58839131
Drive across the border, buy in Germany. Prices still suck, but not that much.

>>58839012
If muh gaymur theme meme matter, Phanteks offers some colour themed HSF, maybe you find something there.

>>58839068
Noctua fans are the best, but also expensive, a cheaper alternative are Be Quiet Pure Wings 2.
>how bad is "HGST H3IKNAS30003272SE 3TB Deskstar" for an extra $45
HGST makes excellent HDDs, the Deskstar NAS should be slower than the P300, but generally of higher quality. Price is stupid though.

>>58839102
7K2000 should be from around 2010, has lower amount of cache and should be generally more noisy and slower.
I'm not saying the HDD is bad, HGST has yet to produce a bad HDD, what i mean is that i wouldn't pay for "old" stuff when the P300 is also available.
Speaking of which, where i live those old HGST drives aren't available anyways.

Any EE's here?

The fan of my PSU has been making some noise so I bought the exact same fan to replace it. Now the problem is that even though it's the same fan it has a 3 pin connector while the PSU one has a 3 pin connector. Is removing that plastic shit going to harm my PSU in any way? http://www.silentpcreview.com/article83-page1.html

>>58839149
>>58839167
i'll be keeping an eye on those HGST HDD's for sure since you guys praise them this highly. had never heard of hitachi doing anything pc related, not as widespread as their other stuff here for sure.

>Case Fans
well then, Noctua or Be Quiet Pure Wings 2. it is, then, thanks a bunch for the advise guys, deffinetly aware that a lot of my questions are hard to answer since we arent in the same situation, but i've been learning a bunch, and im sure this first build of mine is gonna be great.

>>58839237
>while the PSU one has a 3 pin connector.
*2 pin

Which company(ies) makes the best ram?

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>>58839245
>had never heard of hitachi doing anything pc related, not as widespread as their other stuff here for sure

Is a 1tb SSD worth it? No other drives.

>>58839421
Not really. There aren't a whole lot of things that perform noticeably better off of SSD than HDD. Big SSDs aren't worth the money yet.
Get a 1TB HDD then a smaller SDD to put your OS, and other load-time dependent stuff on.

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Will removing this plastic shit so I can connect a 3 pin connector do any harm?

What's are some good ATX cases? I need to upgrade because mine still has USB 1.0.

>>58839619
I use the AsRock Z170 Pro4. It's nothing fancy, but it's hella cheap for a z170, it's got all the features I personally need, and it looks nice enough.

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>>58839534
If it's not secured to the motherboard in any way, then it should be fine. Probably a better idea to cut one of the sides off and put it back on, since it keeps the pins from bending from lateral stress on the connector.
>>58839619
Fractal Design Define C.

>>58839619
>>58839649
OH, CASES. I'm dumb.
I'm using the Bitfenix Pandora ATX. It's unique, and looks good enough to make you ignore some of the cheaper design decisions.

Is it okay to plug my SATA power cable into the "Perif1" slot? The cable fits, but I don't know if there's any harm in using it to power my hard drives.

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>>58839275
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YMG6m8
Rate my build

>>58840024
Get a motherboard size that matches your case unless you seriously plan on upgrading your case later to an MATX case.

Consider upgrading your RAM speed to 2400 MHz or even 3000 MHz if it's not that much more expensive.

>>58840024
Looks fine,
What anon said about RAM >>58840069

>>58840024
4/10, you tried.

>>58840024
I just threw up in my mouth a little/10
The CPU cooler is okayish I guess, the rest has to go.

>>58839753
That's what SATA power is
For that matter that's what PCIe power is too, just at a higher amperage

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>>58840198
>>58839753
Forgot the picture.

>>58840230
Check to see that they're both 5 volts (which they are)
It works

>>58839654
>If it's not secured to the motherboard in any way
actuallly PSU.. Everyone told be to buy a quality PSU from Seasonic back then so I did.. now I have to replace the fucking fan because it has become noisy

>>58840337
I think $100 or so for a new PSU is a better investment than $5-$20 for a new fan and a lethal electrocution.

>>58840358
Or do it the ghetto way and strap one of the obsolete case fans you replaced with noctuas to the PSU with zip ties after ripping out the noise fan.

>>58840358
>lethal electrocution.
that's a meme http://www.overclock.net/a/capacitor-safety-in-power-supplies

>>58840548
I mean even 120 volts through a normal 20 amp house fuse is arguably non-lethal

>>58840548
>That's a meme
Anon's last words

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>>58840548
>t. ching chong ding dong capacitor company employee

>>58840598
>>58840776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-ms5alU5Vc

>>58841248
>long pork curry tandoori