/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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First for Debian

Second for Gentoo

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Recently installed Gnome instead of Windows.

Now my computer is LOUD.
Help me wizards. on HP "envy"

>>58789598
not sure if it's intented to be funny, but I chuckled, thanks

>finished arch install
>using i3, switch to cinnamon for a minute
>now my home directory has seemingly been switched from /home/username to /root/
>download, documents folders etc all exist in /root/ and x uses the config files in /root/, but all my config files and actual downloads are in /home/username
how do I fix this

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>>58789556
why are you not using devuan in 2017, anno domini

>>58789656
How did you launch i3 & Cinnamon? DM or startx? You probably ran startx as root or something

>>58789598
UP

>>58789656
btw, I'm on arch if it matters

>>58789740
it actually could matter
fuck these stupid memes that prevent people from asking for help

>>58789695
Only way to get a gui is to either login as root in lightdm or sudo startx. just realised it's obviously just using /root/ as the root user home directory. the real problem is that logging in as myself gives a black screen

>>58789656
Looks like you started Xorg as root. (Never do this).

>>58789749
what do archfags always need to point out that they're using arch when asking questions?

(kek at cut up post)

>>58789772
Happened to me too, no idea what is causing this. Are you using 4chanX?

>>58789782
>4chanX
works on my machine(TM)

>>58789782
no I just accidently the send button to early

>>58789750
You may not have configured your local .xinitrc correctly

how do i take a screenshot of a txt.document opened in the bash shell? Since the document is open I can't input commands.

>>58789829
Hotkeys. Try xbindkeys or whatever your DE ships for managing hotkeys. Alternativly, why not try pressing the PRINT key?

>>58789829
open another shell

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>>58789829
>>58789837
>>58789843

convert label:">$(date +%Y)\n>taking screenshots\n>not generating them" out.png

So do I just learn GNU/Linux by searching the web when I need to figure out how to do something?

>>58789893
more or less, yeah

>>58789893
yes

>>58789893

man man

The only correct source.
Also the Arch wiki is good. Dont trust crap posted on random blogs/websites.

>>58789897
>>58789902
gtfo

Do Mint/Ubuntu normies even use the bash shell like us?

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>>58789903
>

man man

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>8
we're the few keeping GNU/Linux alive

what is a non-arch distro that doesn't come with 2000 packages upon install

Hi GNU/Linux Friends,

I come to you with a problem. I can't seem to get a live USB of Fedora 25 (workstation) to boot to desktop. This is a similar problem to the bug in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1282244 , except that I'm running Windows 10 Pro 64-bit here. Still UEFI. USB target drive is a 32gb Kingston Data Traveler 100 G3, confirmed working.
The Fedora ISO's sha256 hashes check out. It's good to go before it hits the USB.

Have so far tried the following processes:
>1) dd with a copy of dd for Windows
result: fail during test at the Fedora boot menu
>2) Using Fedora's Media Writer application; this downloads a fresh ISO (cunts)
result: fails during test at the Fedora boot menu. Hilariously also manages to not copy data to the USB. 3 partitions: 45mb unallocated, 5mb EFI, 28.86gb unallocated
>3) Using YUMI v2
result: apparently doesn't support UEFI in its boot loader, and I can't be assed
>4) Manually creating a bootable usb with diskpart, extraction of the ISO, etc.
result: still fails to boot to desktop and fails the test

Pulling my hair out here and can't figure out what the fuck makes Fedora a special snowflake in comparison to Ubuntu and the like. Can anyone run me through the linux boot process at a high level, with UEFI in mind?

>>58790051
gentoo
most gentoo derivatives
lfs
slackware

>>58790051
Arch may come with fewer packages but their packages have ~everything enabled. Debian netinstall comes slick and their packages are split more so you have bigger package count. Try apt-get --no-install-recommends <package>, less "bloat".

is notepad++ not Linux friendly?

Why is KDE the most comfortable DE?

>>58790265
Do you enjoy crashes and bugs?

>>58790289
Never had them with KDE

>install emacs via repository
>installed
>try to execute
>nothing happens
what in tarnation

>>58790054
Thanks friends.

Re-ran the Fedora's media writer as administrator and wiped/re-did the drive. Sacrificing a Gnu helped along with some incense offering and voodoo play. No fucking clue what the fuck changed. Still has fucky partitions.

On another note, I am not experiencing wayland, haven't found a proper solution to get thinkpad acpi working with hot keys and battery control (can echo to /sys/), and have yet to find the repos with the proprietary nvidia drivers (or at least a way to disable the card on boot, not in bios). dnf has a nice and clean output.

>>58789658
>using sub-par kernels for political reasons

No thanks.

I absolutely cannot get mpeg4 and h264 working in firefox or chrome on Fedora 25

I've followed every guide, installed every codec, but nothing works. What the hell am I doing wrong, /g/? Please help

>>58790641
what are you trying to do?

>>58790793
Watch streaming videos in firefox.

https://www.youtube.com/html5 tells me that my browser does not support H264

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>>58790813
I suppose you are using the last version of firefox, which should ship with the plugin in pic. Check if all the flags in about:config starting with "media.mediasource" are set on true.
If you are using the gstreamer backend then you should also install gstreamer-libav and whatever your distro calls the base and "good" plugin set.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0RtCGSKkH1X

>>58790898

I have all the plugins installed, and the mediasource flags are all true. I've enabled that plugin but nothing has happened.

This is also not working in Chromium.

>>58791022
I should say that I also installed the nonfree plugins from rpmfusion

>>58790559

Does Devuan not work with mainline kernels?

>>58791055
Yes, it's called debian

I was upgrading debian and a thing that says "configuring mdadm" popped out inside the terminal. It says to type "none" if i'm not interested in the configuration but when i type i don't see anything, the letters dont come up anywhere. I've also tried to type "none" and then press enter but nothing happened, help please

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Is there a portable version of Virtual Box for linux?

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Finally ended up with raster fonts. Feels like problem solved forever for any distro to the end of times.
Feels good man.
t. >>58784287-anon

>>58791275
you could run it in a portable manner, but you'd still need to take care of compiling and loading the host kernel modules

>>58791301
>you could run it in a portable manner
How?
Can you elaborate?
I need to run a several windows only applications across several machines running linux.

>>58791316
you'd need root access to load a kernel module anyway, so why not just install virtualbox normally?

>>58791295
how do i do this

>>58791329
Limited resources, and I don't want anyone to know I have root access.

>>58791348
well, you can run qemu without needing root, at the cost of no kvm access, which will make it slow
or you can use wine, if your windows program works with it

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>>58791364
>without needing root
I do have root access, but I don't want to use it.
>QEMU with no KVM
Does it have a portable application?
>WINE
My problems would be solved if it could run under wine.

>>58791295
Looks horrible

http://www.pcgamer.com/zenimax-statement-reveals-john-carmack-googled-how-to-wipe-a-hard-drive/

John Carmack being sued into slavery after stealing from ZeniMax. Got subpeoned to hand over his computers so he tried to wipe them the very same day. had to google how to do it despite being a programmer for like 20 years.

Quick without looking it what's the command to securely wipe a HDD?

>>58791332
I used this
https://people.mpi-inf.mpg.de/~uwe/misc/uw-ttyp0/
for qt/gtk and terminal, it's in bdf format so it's impossible to use in browser. For browser i used
https://files.ax86.net/terminus-ttf/
and this
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/theme-font-size-changer/
To make changes interface-wide.

>>58791436
I would use the srm utility of just:
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/<disk>

>>58791388
>Does it have a portable application?
yea, just get a static build, all in one executable
>I do have root access, but I don't want to use it.
that's why i said "without needing", and not "without having"

>>58791408
At least i will not go blind this way. Perfect eyesight is too precious 4me.

>>58791436
shred -z

>had to google how to do it despite being a programmer for like 20 years.
Hardly a surprise for me in all honesty.
It's incredibly common for specialists to be absolutely clueless in other fields.
Rings especially true for Americans.

We have a stereotype that an american can be a certified specialist in screwing in a lighbtulb, best in the country but will call another guy to unscrew it.

Iirc Louis Rossman (the italian kike /g/entooman who repairs apple devices on youtube) had like an hour long video on this particular topic

>>58791467
>yea, just get a static build, all in one executable
For linux?

>>58791595
yea, duh
unless you want to get the static build for windows and run that in wine

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What's your experience with copying to usb drives on linux?

I just read about the whole routine of writing to cache and periodically flushing to the physical storage.

It has been fairly janky for me in recent days.
Yesterday I tried to copy a 3,1G file to an NTFS-formatted drive and the speeds were abysmal.
We're talking like 800kBps or transfer speeds and entire system freezing every 2 seconds despite the fact that CPU was pretty much on idle and not even 1/4 of available memory was filled.

Have you had any luck optimizing the process?

>>58791638
Oh forgot to mention.
The pic is the result of mounting the usb drive with "sync" option.

I have a Tomcat web application running at work. Is there a big difference between having Tomcat's root directory set are /usr/local/Tomcat vs. /usr/share/Tomcat. share/ doesn't seem like the right place

>>58791648
"sync" is going to be slow as shit, that's expected behaviour

>>58791674
I am perfectly aware of that.

>>58791636
Sorry, but this is the only thing I found.
http://wiki.qemu.org/Links

>>58791638
I never had any trouble with any usb drive (either usb 2 or 3) but I never used NTFS partitions, do you also have the same problem with other filesystems?
If you are using ntfs-3g, check this:
http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#slow

>>58791679
outside of that, ntfs drives aren't going to perform as well as native filesystems, as ntfs-3g is implemented as a userspace FUSE driver

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'Android count?

>>58791694
Get out

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>>58791700
:~)

>>58791688
i could build you one if you don't know how to compile things

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Just installed a fresh instance of Bunsenlabs. What programms can you recommend?
I'm relavtively new to Linux.

>>58791730
>What programms can you recommend?
the ones you need, duh

>>58791713
You mean Qemu is a portable application?
So I just

/.configure
make

And I'd get a portable qemu?

>>58791730
>1228 packages
woo nelly

>>58791737
there's a configure option to make a static version
portable and static mean different things, though static builds are portable by nature

>>58789829
>taking screenshots from command line
Nigger what is this 1988?

Just get something like shutter and bind shift+print to screenshot a selectable area

Is there a proper way to install .deb packages on Ubuntu based distros or should I just start using Debian? I was using Arch mostly because of the AUR but just changed to KDE Neon since most of the stuff on the AUR is just .deb files anyways

>>58791758
You seem to have misunderstood me.
I'm nor looking to create "installable" package.
What I want to create is .sh file that would launch the qemu application.

>>58791763
You can use package called gdebi which will install it by double-click (like on windoze) and handle the dependencies.

with the terminal you can use dpkg -i.
But unfortunately it will not solve dependencies, so you have to install them separately.

>>58791788
a static build means all required libraries are built into the program's executable
this means the program will run anywhere without needing to worry about available libraries or where they are

>>58791820
OK.
I've downloaded the source code, and unpacked it.
What do I need to do know?
I apologize for my stupidity.

>>58791689
>do you also have the same problem with other filesystems?
frankly I am unable to replicate this error even If I wanted to.
It seems to happen randomly when some requirements unknown to me match.

I have this drive formatted to NTFS for compatibility reasons.
fat32 works a lot better but the 4G filesize limit is a bummer.

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>>58791694
more obscure

>>58791848
use the --static configure argument, along with whatever else you need

>>58791730
cmatrix

Installed openSUSE and it has something like 2100 packages. How do i slim it down

>>58791959
And I'll end up with qemu.sh?

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hey guys,
i would like to use my old wii with linux, but the gc-linux project is dead, the latest kernel of this site has no usb ethernet drivers too. so i tried to compile my own kernel from this repository https://github.com/DeltaResero/GC-Wii-Linux-Kernels. i used the bash script to choose the drivers for the usb ethernet card and to compile the kernel, but after i compiled it and tried to use it on my wii, the firmware for the ethernet driver wont load. the wii linux recognize the usb ethernet card but it wont load the specific driver. wi

>>58792134
and what exactly do you expect us to do if probably you're the only one currently browsing this thread with a wiiu that you're willing to ruin in order to run linux?

be real anon.

You haven't even posted what error does it print when you tried to load the kernel module for the wlan driver.

>>58792098
linux executables typically have no extension (they are ELF format, and ".elf" is seen used sometimes for this format)
".sh" is for shell scripts, though technically also not required

>>58792176
he said wii, not wiiu

>>58792176
how i can print out the errors for the usb ethernet driver?

How's Unity these days? I have a few issues with other DEs at the moment:

-Xfce: A bit of a mess with how it handles window border decorations separately from contents. Tearing for me can only be fixed with Compton/Compiz and the latter has issues with what I mentioned.

KDE: Enabling Vsync kills performance

GNOME: Some of its settings cannot be handled by the tweak tool, such as some of the fonts. Doesn't work smoothly on my config.

Cinnamon: Some of its applets/desklets are either too buggy or don't work on more recent versions.

Pantheon: Requires elementaryOS, seems a bit green still, can only be installed on Ubuntu 16.04 but not 16.10 through PPA.

Seems my only two other options are MATE and Unity at this point.

>>58792213
its shit

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OK, so I think I like the "minimal" theme in zim (prezto successor) but I don't understand what the color codes on the prompt mean.

Other themes do this too, sometimes they put up numbers of seconds and other stuff which I don't know what it's referencing.

What is this stuff? Is it useful?

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Which of pic-related partitions do I set to have the flag bios_grub?

Trying to repair my Windows MBR using boot-repair, but when I run it with recommended settings, it gives an error that GPT was detected, and that I should create a boot-bios partition with the bios_grub flag using Gparted.

>>58792360
I literally buy new hard drives so I don't have to try to deal with this

>>58792397
Buying a new HDD isn't an option for me. I need to restore my Windows partition and I can't extract the data from it (nor do I want to)

>>58792213
L X Q T
X
Q
T

>navigation with directional keys sometimes doesn't wokr properly in firefox
>volume control buttons on laptop don't control volume over bluetooth
>sometimes home/end keys don't work right


I hate small problems like these because you can live with them but they are annoying and are a pain to fix. If something important breaks at least you HAVE to fix it.

>>58792412
Hm. Well, I'd go for sda3

>>58792419
Does this work with wayland?

>>58792360
did you just convert that to gpt or something?
it has neither an EFI partition nor a bios boot partition

well, if you want a bios boot partition, you'll need to make one, 2M will do

>>58792452
not sure, i still use X11

werks for me

>>58792213
using mate right now and haven't had any issues

>>58792355
kek, oh boy, zsh and related crap is /fa/ tier
learn to use the terminal instead of installing random colored stuff you dont understand

>>58792465
Long story short, I installed a Dual-boot Ubuntu which broke, decided to "uninstall" by manually deleting Ubuntu's partition. After doing some shit later, I wiped out the rest of Ubuntu and grub by deleting two FAT32 partitions which supposedly belonged to windows and ruined the MBR.

>>58792501
I get it for syntax highlighting and history partial matching. I'm not sure what you're suggesting though, or if you're just talking big.

>>58792465
>>58792452
I created a partiton 5MiB in size with the given flag, then gave it the flag. Boot-repair still didn't recognise the partition, so I restarted it and it got to work.

>>58792513
you deleted the EFI partition?
oh
well good luck with that

i'd try to help, but this is an EFI and windows problem, i haven't used EFI personally, and this isn't a windows thread

>>58792213
It's OK anon. It's always been ok.

I've got one in my main desktop and one in my multimedia box -for which I just scale all menus and icons a bit bigger- and works great. out of the box.

The only other desktop environment that I guess is worth the hassle of switching is, maybe, i3 or some other tiling window manager.

>>58792540
Yeah, I've been struggling with this for a good week lmao

Tried to burn the windows install iso to a USB and use the repair function, but I couldn't boot into it - no burner could do it for some reason.

>>58792213
>-Xfce: A bit of a mess with how it handles window border decorations separately from contents. Tearing for me can only be fixed with Compton/Compiz and the latter has issues with what I mentioned.

Yep, that screen tearing was the first thing that put me off. But really, I can't think of a reason to switch from comfy unity.

>>58792577
My only gripe with Unity is customization. I don't see many themes around other than the usual Ark and stuff.

>>58792599
>unity
botnet

>>58792563
you could just run the installer iso in a VM, with the physical disk attached

you're gonna need to make a new EFI partition (fat32, efi type)

not sure how to go about recreating the files windows had on there though, short of backing up windows, reinstalling it, then restoring the backup

>>58792608
disabled botnet* (they changed that)
Doesn't make it much better tho.

>>58792612
I can do that? Shit, I'll try that

>>58789515
So what do I do with 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0

>>58792669
i've done that to replace a bad "reserved" partition on a bios machine, it might also work for an efi partition

there was probably a way to generate a new reserved partition without installing windows completely, but i couldn't find it, documentation for "advanced" stuff like this is shit with windows, and user information is mostly useless, only the most basic and common scenarios are easy to find

>>58792714
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy

>>58792744
Ohhh thanks lol

>>58792669
>>58792743
-- this is actually one reason why i like linux
available information makes it much easier to find out exactly what's happening, it's easier to fix things

>>58792714
"""dont""" post it on the internet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Speech_Flag

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Gentoo just got 4.9 kernel on the stable amd64 branch
https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources

>>58792846
hello from debian on 3.16

>just installed linux mint 18
>no sound
>googling the issue provides no solutions that work
>in /proc/asound/cards it doesn't show any sound cards
>think that it's not detecting my sound card but don't know why/how to fix it

???

>>58792875
did you ensure your card is actually supported?

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>>58792846

I want my MTV

>>58792846
Nice, waiting for hardened-sources to go 4.9 ^^

>>58792885
I got a thinkpad t420 from my uncle who didn't use it anymore and everyone talks about linux and thinkpads so I assumed it would just work.

>>58792743
Currently downloading the Win 10 iso to see if I can burn it to a USB. I need it to install a VM, if I can't boot into it and use the bundled repair function

Does /fglt/ have an IRC channel?

>>58793049
yes
https://fglt.nl/irc.html

So, I'm deciding on a new distro.
I think I'm not gonna go with a rolling release this time so I'm currently deciding between Fedora and Debian.

I want to start with a minimal installation, and add what I need. From what I read this would be a bit easier with Debian.
Any comments on RPM vs apt?

I use Arch on my netbook and I'm thinking that I'm gonna miss the AUR. Anything similar with Debian?
Other suggestions?

>>58789829
Open you homosexual erotic fan fic on you favorite text editor.
press: ctrl + z

X = number of seconds

$ sleep X  && screenshot app &
$ fg

That's it.

>>58793315
>I think I'm not gonna go with a rolling release this time so I'm currently deciding between Fedora and Debian.
Huh?

>>58793315
both have netinstallation methods for 'minimal' systems, but Fedora has tiny official repos with its 'free software only' policy. i'd personally recommend Debian. if you want newer packages then use testing or sid.

>>58793049
>>58793063
>freenode

D E P L O R A B L E

>>58789598
Install a lighter DE obviously. Why do you buy loud computers anyway?

>>58791275
Sure. Install debian on a flash drive and install VBox.

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>>58789515
I was thinking about how one could define hexdecimal colors instead of the normal 256 range and came up with this wierd idea right here, so why not sharing it.

It basically temporary abuses/redefines the shades of white (244-248) with the colors of the free speech flag.

Maybe someone finds this interesting, here's the code:

#!/usr/bin/env bash

lines="$(tput lines)"
columns="$(tput cols)"
barwidth="$((columns/5))"

printf '\033]4;244;#09F911\007'
printf '\033]4;245;#029D74\007'
printf '\033]4;246;#E35BD8\007'
printf '\033]4;247;#4156C5\007'
printf '\033]4;248;#635688\007'

i=1
while [ "$i" -lt "$lines" ]; do
    j=0
    while [ "$j" -lt "$barwidth" ]; do
        printf '\033[38;5;244m%b' '\u2588'
        j="$((j+1))"
    done
    j=0
    while [ "$j" -lt "$barwidth" ]; do
        printf '\033[38;5;245m%b' '\u2588'
        j="$((j+1))"
    done
    j=0
    while [ "$j" -lt "$barwidth" ]; do
        printf '\033[38;5;246m%b' '\u2588'
        j="$((j+1))"
    done
    j=0
    while [ "$j" -lt "$barwidth" ]; do
        printf '\033[38;5;247m%b' '\u2588'
        j="$((j+1))"
    done
    j=0
    while [ "$j" -lt "$barwidth" ]; do
        printf '\033[38;5;248m%b' '\u2588'
        j="$((j+1))"
    done
    i="$((i+1))"
    printf '\n'
done

tput cup "$(($(tput lines)-2))" "$(($(tput cols)-3))"
printf '\033[m\033[48;5;248;38;5;255m+C0\033[m\n'

>>58793371
>Install debian
If that's the case I'd just use puppy linux with this http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61321

>>58793413
Whoops, please replace
#!/usr/bin/env bash
with
#!/bin/sh
forgot to change it.

>>58793480
whats the difference?

who here is going to use devuan when it comes out?

probs not the best place to ask, but probably the closest i'll get.
how to i load the full FreeBSD system into memory, such as what happens when puppy or tinycore boots?

>>58793315
neither fedora nor debian are rolling release so lmao

>>58793489
#!/bin/sh scripts are usually faster and more portable. On Debian it will call the dash shell, on Arch bash in posix mode.
When you write a script that doesn't need any special shell features, use sh.

>>58793529
are you stupid
debian unstable: rolling
fedora rawhide: rolling
>>58793534
thanks

>>58793566
>debian unstable: rolling
unusable
>fedora rawhide: rolling
unusable

enjoy your future broken systems

>>58793590
>unusable
4u

>>58793566
>>58793590
Why on earth would you want to use an unstable debian? Isn't the point of Debian is to be stable?

>>58793611
>Isn't the point of Debian is to be stable?
it is.

>>58793611
>Debian -- The Universal Operating System
There are different releases for different purposes.

>>58793634
Nice meme.

>>58793590
Only developers and those who live on the edge use sid. The rest use either stable or testing for bleeding edge.

>>58793647
And what did I just said you stupid faggot?

>>58793647
testing and sid are acutally just some weeks apart

>>58793637
>There are different releases for different purposes.
>archfaggot got enough of /g/ mocking his distribution of choice so he installed debian, upgraded it to some shoddy branch and pretends its something else

There's no point in using unstable and testing if you're not a developer, package maintainer or a package tester.


>>58793647
>or testing
Yeah, it's called "Ubuntu".

>>58793676
why are you acting like debian testing is for devs only? its more stable than arch and every teen is using arch

>>58793676
Ubuntu is based on Debian unstable.

>>58793699
packages in debian testing can go for months without updating and there's no security updates for them.

Use ubuntu, they have security updates for them.

>>58793676
The Debian website recommends stable for servers and beginners, for average desktop use testing is recommended.

>>58793699
packages in debian testing can go for months without updating and there's no security updates for them.

Use ubuntu, they have security updates for them.

>>58793709
I'm talking about LTS. There's no reason to use other versions of Ubuntu either.

on gentoo when I run mpv i get this "[vo/opengl] Could not create EGL context!"
what do I do ? i want some of that profile=opengl-hq

>>58793714
pls stop posting uninformed bullcrap

>>58793725
>for average desktop use testing is recommended.
stop spreading bullshit please.

>>58793742
no hardware accel

What is the knowledge required to make a theme for Unity?

>>58793750
and how do I enable it? everything else has hardware accel

I'm just leaving this here: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-choosing.en.html

>>58793791
>Testing has more up-to-date software than Stable, and it breaks less often than Unstable.
>But when it breaks, it might take a long time for things to get rectified. Sometimes this could be days and it could be months at times.
Especially true in the midst of recent testing freeze.
>It also does not have permanent security support.

>Unstable has the latest software and changes a lot.
>Consequently, it can break at any point.

archshitters btfo.

Stable is and always was the way to go

>>58793742
anyone?

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>>58793742
>>58793830
>arch shitter installed gentoo to pretend he's so leet and haxxor
>cant fix his own shit
Happened to me before and I perfectly know what the problem might be (im 80% sure what's the problem).

But I'm not going to tell you.
Kys

anyone know what setting in /etc/fonts is causing this rendering issue in firefox?

>>58793821
>Stable is and always was the way to go
well, I'm using sid and I like it
apt-listbugs informs you about changes, so you know if anything may break before it does

>>58793870
excuse me stallman this is a friendly thread

So what's the best distro everyone should use? Does something like this exist?

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anyone know what setting (i guess in /etc/fonts) could be causing this font issue in firefox?

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>>58793904
debian

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So,

16.04 or 16.10?

Also, I have some AMD GPU here that stopped getting proprietary drivers on Ubuntu. I've heard AMDGPU PRO drivers are the replacement for those, but at the moment GCN 1.0 cards don't have much support for it. I'm not too savvy, but were they released, would I have more trouble getting those drivers to work on LTS due to an older kernel version or something? I'm a bit of a dumbass so don't go easy on me.

>>58793904
ubuntu LTS probably.
it's the most widely supported distro.

it also happens to be the only distribution that some hardware manufacturers (like dell) decided is "okay" to be shipped with their hardware.

>>58793904
Don't listen to that other reply anon he's trolling you.
There is a best distro, and it is named Gentoo.

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>>58793904
Kali GNU/Linux

>>58793911
that's the appearance you get when you try to render truetype fonts without anti-aliasing

>>58793924
>using canonical shit

>>58793920
i literally cannot decipher what your question actually is.

> I'm a bit of a dumbass
this bit i figured out myself

>>58793904
No.

Don't listen to other people. The answer is no. There's no distro that everyone should use. Even if there are some very good distros that can actually suffice for most users, they aren't the true replacement for every possible use.

Judging by your question though, I would say >>58793924 is right. Unless you have a specific need to run 16.10, use 16.04 (LTS) like he said. It's the distro that gives less headaches of all slightly popular ones, for sure.

>>58793949
This. Because of Canonical, we need to deal with shit like "What's the point of using Linux when you can run everything on Ubuntu in Windows 10"?

>>58793992
GNU/Linux*

>>58793992
>What's the point of using Linux when you can run everything on Ubuntu in Windows 10
What's the point?

Which torrent client should I run on my raspberry pi? Rtorrent or deluge or something else?

>>58790559
>devuan uses "sub-par" kernels

bait or not, neck yourself

>>58794009
Sorry, Richard.

>>58793971
he is preoccupied that a future release of AMDGPU drivers could be incompatible with an LTS kernel.

>>58794012
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mis take in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>>58793870
never shit on arch, have it on another drive used it for 2+ years thanks anyway

>>58793971
See, I knew that it didn't make much sense.

What I mean is, to my understanding newer drivers require newer kernel versions (I might be wrong on that). 16.04 uses 4.4, 16.10 uses 4.8.

Should I just use 16.04 and upgrade its kernel, to be able to install newly available drivers, or am I just completely misunderstanding how it works?

>>58793870
>*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread. ***

>>58793757
You have to know how to make Unity themes first

>>58794051
Alrighty then.

The inherent and eternal problem with proprietary AMD drivers for linux was the fact that they were only made for few specific kernel versions and few specific xorg versions and never worked on anything else.

amdgpu is supposed to be a solution to this problem.


>Should I just use 16.04 and upgrade its kernel, to be able to install newly available drivers, or am I just completely misunderstanding how it works?
Why do you need "newly available drivers" again?

>>58789598
you forgot the kernel

Knoppix, Mandrake, Mandriva, SUSE, openSUSE, RHEL, Fedora, Gentoo, Funtoo, Sabayon, Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, Antergos, Manjaro, Linux Mint, Fuduntu, Korora, elementaryOS, ZorinOS, PCLinuxOS, Linux Lite, Slackware, Puppy Linux, Devuan, Crunchbang++, Bunsenlabs, Trisquel

What else

>>58794101
I might have performance issues on the desktop.

I tried Ubuntu Gnome not too long ago and animations were lagging a little bit, it seemed like a problem specifically with drivers.

>>58794153
Then yes, using the non-LTS version might be better idea.

The point of LTS is not upgrading the kernel and xorg (if possible and secure enough) so that people using proprietary drivers aren't left with machines that don't work after upgrade

Hi /g/uys, I was wondering if someone around here uses ipTables and/or fail2ban and could post some "standard" files to learn how to.

>>58794275
>ipTables
Why did you use a uppercase T? Is it iptables or something else?

>>58791951
QNX straight or *NIX vm?

>>58794310
QNX straight

>>58794306
Misstype I guess, makes it difference though?

>>58790559
What subpar kernels you talking about sperg

>>58794339
Is it easy to learn a QNX skillset? I was contacted with a job offering requiring basic knowledge of QNX. I haven't done any reading yet though

>>58794355
Here my two iptables

# Generated by iptables-save v1.6.0 on Sat Feb  4 19:29:32 2017
*filter
:INPUT DROP [1423:344959]
:FORWARD DROP [0:0]
:OUTPUT DROP [0:0]
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -j ACCEPT
COMMIT
# Completed on Sat Feb  4 19:29:32 2017
# Generated by ip6tables-save v1.6.0 on Sat Feb  4 19:29:32 2017
*filter
:INPUT DROP [0:0]
:FORWARD DROP [0:0]
:OUTPUT DROP [0:0]
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -j ACCEPT
COMMIT
# Completed on Sat Feb  4 19:29:32 2017

>>58794376
It's bbos10 brah. It's QNX with a mobile UI on top.

I tried to get into QNX but Blackberry ditched their photon UI (which was great the first and last time i used it) and I'm unable to even boot QNX image in the virtual machine.

Is Inkscape the only good alternative to Illustrator/Affinity Designer on loonix?

>>58794408
krita

>>58794381
So if I'm right, you're only accepting request on port 22 or how? I'm pretty new to iptables

>>58794406
Right, okay
Thanks for the info/replies, either way. Cool knowing bb has an accessible shell too

>>58794469
Isn't that more of a replacement for Photoshop than Illustrator/Inkscape?

>>58794580
no,gimp is ps replacement

gimp to edit
krita to create

>>58794580
yeah that's a painting software. For vector graphics I think inkscape in the best solution, what's is your problem with it?

>>58794634
A bit of baby duck syndrome mostly, I'm fairly sure it has enough tools for what I need to do, but it's not exactly pleasant to work with.

>>58794487
>you're only accepting request on port 22
Exactly

>>58794711
Then I guess you have some homeserver which only accept that port for some reason I can't reach.

Tell me, why should I choose MATE over XFCE?

>>58794908
because you like the way it looks?

>>58794908
You prefer the look and feel of GNOME2 over XFCE.

If you're new to Linux, I can't imagine that being the case, so there's no real reason to pick MATE.

>>58794908
two reasons someone may reconsider mate
>better multihead support
>better integration between all programs from the mate software package

I can't play latest public TiTS or any .swf I downloaded locally. The browser I specifically use for flash is Chromium, it prompts me to save the file second time instead of opening it (but its playable on the site).
I had this issue long ago, it was caused by mime-type, there is a well-known fix for it (e.g. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1410917#p1410917). The thing now is, the fix is applied (even mimetype Tits.swf replies correctly) and yet its still not working despite working when the previous public build came out (about a month ago).

I've checked things around and it turns out that while mimetype detects it correctly file -mime thinks its just an octet stream. Not sure if that's relevant.

i see people recomending we use 'su -', is this better to use than 'su' on its own and what is the difference?

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>>58795099

>>58795079
why not make an html file which <embed>'s the swf?

>>58795114
Tits is not the only local Swf I have, there's a whole bunch of porn. Its a pain in the ass to invent .sh or whatever just to create a html file for every .swf I have.

What music player does /fglt/ use?

>>58795224
mpd+ncmpcpp

>>58793529
>>58793333
>I think I'm
>NOT
>gonna go with a rolling release

>>58795224
mpd+gmpc

>>58795224
mpd+sonata

>>58794275
Someone more would like to help me with this topics? Thanks.

>>58795224
mpd+foobar2k

>>58795360
Google

>>58795459
I tried but I don't think I got it at 100%.

Does my having symlinked the entire rutorrent directory into /var/www/html from my home directory have anything to do with why I can't access it, instead receiving a 403 error?

>>58795554
Fucking literally google,there is so much information available to you INSTANTLY instead of lurking a thread.
Ask SPECIFIC questions,not broad term" HURR DURR HOW DO I SHOT IPTABLES"

>>58795584
Yes. Try hardlinking at least.

>>58795649
You have a point there, I will read again and I will come with questions if I have some.

Before going, how could I test that kind of things myself?

>>58795684
There should be a book on Networking and UNIX in here.

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:DC3F817975680C54E3ED1A30018CABED97404DD4&dn=sci%20wikia%20textbooks&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.zer0day.to%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fexodus.desync.com%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fmgtracker.org%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.sktorrent.net%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fexplodie.org%3a6969%2fannounce

>>58795224
cmus

>>58795684
use an online portscanner, like this one:
https://pentest-tools.com/network-vulnerability-scanning/tcp-port-scanner-online-nmap

Question:

Since support for non-LTS Ubuntu ends quickly, how difficult or messy is it to update to the next release after the previous is no longer supported?

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>>58793590
>not using rolling
Lol enjoy your ancient packages.
>future broken systems
0. See news about fancy package version
1. Enable rawhide
2. sudo dnf install fancy-package-v1488
3. Disable rawhide
Broken what?

>>58795947
Its just a long dist-upgrade. The real pain is migrating configs between various tools which got major upgrades but it has to be done even in rolling release distros, its just more spread out in time there.

>>58795947
There's probably nothing wrong with replacing your current version name in your various sources.list files with the new one, but it's more complicated on Ubuntu than it is on Debian. I and most other people take the opportunity given by a new version to perform a fresh install and enjoy the benefits thereof.

>>58796041
>>58796029
I see. Just to be sure I guess I'll do a fresh install then.

>>58795649
>>58795554

how about fucking off with sending people to the google botnet and help instead? read the thread title

>>58796305
Anything i would say is already posted somewhere on the World Wide Web,the PLETHORA of information is already present.
man iptables
there done
need examples?
fucking google it

There is a point where LURK MOAR is the ONLY valid answer. This is the perfect case.

HOW DO I IPTABLES
It isnt a specific question,there are literally millions of options using iptables.

>>58795922
>use an online portscanner
>an online portscanner
What operating system are you using that doesn't have any tools for scanning ports, kek?

>>58790153
It's written almost entirely on win32 API.

Good thing I learned Vim - which is pretty fucking awesome

>>58790153
notepadqq

>>58796367
How are you going to probe your own system from your own system, bub?

>>58796340
>Anything i would say is already posted somewhere on the World Wide Web
just like "fucking google it"
posts like yours don't help anyone; they're straight useless spam

The Chromium UI font is too small, and so are fonts on some (not all) webpages in Firefox. How do I change this without just increasing the font size in the settings? I think it's a fontconfig issue because it started after I deleted /etc/fonts/conf.d by accident.

>>58796404
If one cannot help themselves,that is the bigger problem. :^)

>>58796424
>posting the smiley with an arch linux nose

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>>58796383
>>58796396
it's not white friendly either

>>58796444
notepadqq is not notepad++

>>58796400
You can knock on a door from both sides anon.

>>58796444
>>>/pol/

>>58795224
deadbeef because I'm too lazy to rice mpd+ncmpcpp and I don't even listen to much music anyway.

>>58795224
mpv

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>>58796443
>no valid response

>>58796444
Not surprising windows users hate freedom and differing opinions.

>>58796478
he probably want to test his INPUT chain not OUTPUT. And if you give your own ip to nmap or any other software you are going to hit the loopback device.

>>58796478
And a door can lock from one side only, as firewall rules/iptables act as these one way locks.

Don't use analogies unless you'd like to be blown the fuck out

>>58796479
Not his fault the developer of an application decided to make things political.

>>58796444
I don't think Notepad++ is bad, but if I were voting for FN and saw that, I'd still use it. It's nothing but a tool, not a political statement. I would use the weapons of my enemy.

>>58796444
HahahahahahaAHAHAHA

>>58796605
You can still check your ports from both sides, retard.

>>58796444
Npp was never good to begin with, only fags who think they're above using notepad used it.

>>58796611
Notepad++ is the best editor/IDE in windows. I have to admit that.
I don't advocate for software devs being political. It's okay to have a political viewpoint but bringing politics cancer into academics and engineering is plain wrong.

Two kinds of people I hate more than anything:
1. SJWs:
Hurr Durr we need more women
If a woman is a good developer she doesn't need to be distinguished. Furthermore you can hide your gender/sexual preference/skin color behind anonymity and still have a repo on github without being so vocal about it.

2. (The new kind) White Justice Worriors:
The level of cancer of WJWs far exceeds the most chronic SJWs.
>Muh oppressed white men
>Muh female privilege
>We are cucks
>Shove some red pills up my asshole
>Bash is a nigger shell XD install a white shell
They are all the cancer of SJWs + unironic pseudo white defender syndrome

>>58796721
>defending stock notepad

N O R E G E X
O
R
E
G
E
X

>>58796725
Identify politics is for niggers, but npp was still in the wrong for the statement.

>>58796741
Agreed

>>58796725
>Notepad++ is the best editor/IDE in windows
Have you not heard of PHPStorm?

>>58796750
>PHPStorm
>PHP
Sorry I chuckled.


I wouldn't know.

>>58796700
you kind of missed this >>58796592 post

>>58796700
You can check what your system reports from within your local network. Conceptually, the only way to see if your ports are opened correctly, and configured to work with external connections, is to become an external connection.
Even if you are pinging from within a VM, the network still goes through your upper kernel, and them through your router.

It goes through your router slash thing that broadcasts a public ipv4/6.

Only an external source can check, there needs to at least be one jump to an external ip not on your network.

Fuck off.

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Help needed with dual booting Windows 10 and Kali. For my first installation I went balls deep with Debian and that went fine as I did a live installation and ran into a couple of problems such as wifi but I solved by using google to find a solution. I removed Debian and installed Windows 10, as people have told me it's easier to have windows 10 installed first then follow up with linux. I loaded the Kali Live on my USB using rufus, and accessed my UEFI firmware in win10 to turn off secure boot and move USB to the top, but it won't boot from my USB no matter what I do. I turned to Legacy and when I go to boot options my USB would display and when I choose it, it would say I didn't have installation media on my USB. I've been to the Kali forums as well and searched many topics, even back to the older versions when Kali didn't support UFI and tried downloading BOOTx64 and GRUB from fedora and putting them in the boot folder and creating a boot from that, but still no luck. I have a Acer Aspire E15 (E5-573)

Should I just return to Debian when trying this dual boot? But isn't Kali debian based? I'm not understanding.

>>58796763
Try it, its for Linux too.

>>58796725
It's not just SJWs or as you call them, WJWs. It's anyone who feels identity is important. That said you should expect someone to fight back when there's an active attempt of shaming his own identity which he cannot change, no matter the race or gender, so these WJWs (I knew of them but I didn't know of that description) are nothing but a natural reaction. Not telling you to accept them but you know, it's not illogical. There's always going to be reactionary groups of people against anything that shames groups of people, and to be fair, as of late white men are being hated by these specific groups.

>>58796814
Why are you dualbooting KALI, of all distros? And with Windows 10, too.
Is this a laptop?
Just use a VM, man.

Alternatively, use the Gentop handbook and install from that. It has a guide for UEFI installation on top of other systems, if I recall correctly.

Be advised. You want to use genkernel.

>>58796814
>win 10, kali (out of all distros) and animeshit
picture paints itself, lmao

>>58796858
You can guess I meant Gentoo

Is there really nothing better on loonix for videos than mpv?

>>58796858
>>58796808
>>58796605
>>58796924
stop namefagging

>>58796972
there's nothing better on the planet than mpv

>>58796972
SMPlayer uses MPV as a backend, and it's pretty amazing.

>>58796972
ganoo/loonix*

>>58796999
Well, surely pussy is better than mpv.

>>58796972
no, except bomi which is mpv with a GUI and other convenient features

>>58796972
On that note, is there really nothing better on loonix for file systems than ext4?

>>58797025
btrfs, when it's "more" complete and stable

>>58797016
Isn't bomi outdated as fuck?

>>58797013
Fuck off faggot

>>58797035
>https://github.com/xylosper/bomi/issues/490
oh, didn't know that, I switched to plain mpv long time ago (I forgot to add "maybe" between "except" and "bomi" in my post).

>>58797013
Unless it's ur mum's pussy

>>58797034
Will at least one of us be still alive when that happens?

[>>] >>58797106

>>58797105
takes time to make a decent filesystem

>>58797156
Fair enough.

I have an SSD and honestly I'm just looking for the best filesystem, if it's ext4 at the moment, it shall be ext4.

>>58797231
Yes, ext4
Try a f2fs partition. Try ~100GB for starters, see if it has any better performance than ext4.
I doubt it will, though

I'm dualbooting Ubuntu 16.04 and win 8, when I try to log in on the Ubuntu drive it says "/dev/sda5: clean, some number/ some other number of files, x/y number of blocks" before flashing to the log in screen, How did I fuck up and How do I fix it?

>>58797533
Check in your BIOS for Windows 8.1 compatibility mode or anything similar.

>>58797533
Isn't that just verbose kernel logging
What actually is wrong?

>>58797533
do you have an external /tmp?

looking for a bit of help
i just use startx instead of lightdm since i think it's ugly, but on my new install of debian after i decrypt my drive the screen goes black. i can ctrl+alt+f2 to get to a terminal and login there, so i guess it doesn't really matter, i'm just wondering why this happens