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Jury finds that Carmack stole VR technology; $500 Million Award

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>Facebook's Oculus lost a case against game maker ZeniMax, leaving the tech company on the hook for $500 million.

>A jury ordered Facebook to pay $500 million in damages to ZeniMax due to theft of intellectual property on Wednesday.

>Facebook's Sheryl Sandberg told CNBC's Julia Boorstin that she was "disappointed in certain elements of the decision." Sandberg added she was "considering our options to appeal," and the verdict was "not material to our financials."

>ZeniMax sued Oculus for allegedly stealing its intellectual property. The company claimed Oculus founder Palmer Luckey "commercially exploited" Zenimax computer code and trade secrets in order to develop its products. It also said Oculus' VR device Oculus Rift was "primitive" until John Carmack, Oculus chief technology officer and founder of a company owned by ZeniMax, improved on the device using his knowledge from his previous work as a ZeniMax employee.

Facebook BTFO, Carmack BTFO & proven a thief. KEK
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>>58755312
>NowYouSeeMe3.jpg
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What's the crime here?
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>>58755312
>stealing tech
Old habits I see
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No fucking shit he stole it.
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>>58755312
hahahaha fucking hack BTFO
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Carmacks face annoys me
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>willloseonappeal.jpg
Its called being deeppocketed
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>>58755370
>>58755383
>>58755389
>>58755392
Jump into an oven zenimax shills
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>>58755392
>Carmacks face annoys me
He's a typical beta cuck with an asian wife and a kid that looks nothing like him.
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- Zenimax bought ID software for >$100m(1) on June 24, 2009.
- Carmack signed up with Zenimax for an earn-out / golden-handcuffs agreement that ended in June of 2013.
- Carmack was enthralled with VR.
- Carmack found Palmer via an internet forum, reached out to get a rift to try.
- Carmack tinkered with the Rift, adding sensors, building calibration, etc. while on the clock / using hardware from zenimax.
- Carmack brought a prototype of the Rift working on Doom 3 to E3 with him providing Oculus with their early press.
- Zenimax realized the extent to which Carmack was enabling Oculus and worked to negotiate equity with Brendan Iribe.
- Oculus sent Zenimax a proposal to discuss a partnership Sept 21, 2012 but never followed up / followed through.
- Carmack quit Zenimax the day his contract was up in June 2013, joined Oculus as CTO a few months later and took his 5 best guys with him.
- FB bought Oculus March 2014, Zenmix got pissed and sued.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/01/facebook-loses-vr-case.html

https://www.scribd.com/document/274211118/Judge-denies-Facebook-motion

Carmack's NDA fucked him. kek
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>>58755312
>green text facts
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>>58755425
Why didn't he just keep ownership of ID?
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>>58755312
Carmack confirmed pirate.

And fuck all these zenimax shills
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>>58755466
he's an idiot savant. he's a high-functioning autist who's only good at programming.
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>>58755491
he's not even good. Doom was good for the time, but that was his peak. Just rehashes the same old shit over and over. Just look at that garbage that was Quake 4 / RAGE
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>>58755466
>"We're really getting kind of tired competing with our own publishers in terms of how our titles will be featured," Carmack said. "And we've really gotten more IPs than we've been able to take advantage of. And working with other companies hasn't been working out as spectacularly as it could. So the idea of actually becoming a publisher and merging Bethesda and ZeniMax on there [is ideal.] It would be hard to imagine a more complementary relationship. They are triple A, top-of-the-line in what they do in the RPGs. And they have no overlap with all the things we do in the FPSes."
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>>58755370
>Old habits I see
he/Id stole before??? pls tell me moar!
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>>58755510
Lets not forget that sword game
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>>58755510
Carmack is just the engine nigger autist

gameplay mechanics and story are handled by other people I think
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Reminder that Donald Trumps brother is on the board of Zenimax, and Palmer shilled for Donald
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>>58755312
Nice clickbait title. The jury found that Carmack wasn't responsible guilty stealing VR tech.
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>>58755566
its all the same shit, quake 3-ish logic in 2017
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>>58755596
Reminder that liberals will be shitter shattered for the next 8 years.
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>>58755604
*wasn't guilty of
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>>58755510
>Just look at that garbage that was Quake 4 / RAGE

If those games were bad it wasn't because he was a bad programmer, the games are technically good, if they were uninteresting that is another thing.

Everyone knows that the best id games were product of Carmack working together with Romero.
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>>58755628
It seems as days go by Trump is only making the left more popular and omnipresent than they ever were. Now every normie is jumping on the 'resistance' and the internet is more obnoxious than before. It's almost like polarization benefits (((someone)))
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>>58755596
Trump family are not kikes, they wouldn't fuck over carmack like that. Too many kike shills in this thread fear carmack and are trying to forum slide.
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>the jury was not material to our financials
Does that just mean they weren't paid off?
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>>58755312
>mfw its true
Damn $500 million. I didn't think that the case was this big.
Backstabber-palmer btfo.
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>>58755669
Trump is a golden goy uber-Zionist whos butt buddies with Netanyahu and wants to go to war with Iran. Kikes play both sides and /pol/ and chans in general have been fully subverted by controlled opposition
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>>58755560
>that sword game
oh yeah, what a piece of shit that was
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>>58755648
Gaming industry has become complacent and lacking passion. I have not touched any game after Diablo II. Played mobas for a while but realized quickly that they are pure cancer.

It just doesn't feel fun or exciting anymore. The focus is on eye candy and the next monster GPU to power the retarded poorly optimized games instead of gameplay, story and leaving a lasting impression.
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>>58755648
>If those games were bad it wasn't because he was a bad programmer, the games are technically good, if they were uninteresting that is another thing.
I got motion sickness so bad from RAGE I almost puked. It was the worst feeling ive gotten from a game in 25+ years of gaming. From the "sway" he programmed in. Fuck John Carmack.
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>>58755715
John Carmack will be better than you ever could, CS monkey.
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>>58755659
>Trump is only making the left more popular
you dumb. democrats have lost more governorships, seats in congress and senate than ever in history. they're literally falling apart as not even moderate dems can take all this SJW bullshit anymore.

democratic party is dying right in front of our eyes and President is responsible for making that happen.
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>Carmack is a thieving fuck
Maybe now nerds can stop guzzling his semen.
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>>58755729
All he can do is steal and wish he could be hired by NASA
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>>58755754
He's more talented than you, assblasted pajeet.
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>>58755312
wtf is idubbz doing at oculus
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>>58755773
>CS monkey thinks his shitty Java program will be recognized by anyone
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>>58755754
The OP is a flat out lie though.

>Oculus CTO John Carmack, who previously worked for ZeniMax andwas accused of stealing code and destroying evidence, is not personally liable for any damages.
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>>58755743
SJWs are just useful idiots. The main players are Israel, neocons and corporations. All things Trump lied about being against as evidenced by his cabinet..

I took a gamble by voting for him because of the tiny possibility he might be genuinely against both party establishments but I was proven wrong and reminded that voting was retarded to believe has any effect whatsoever
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>>58755312
Palmer UnLuckey
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JUST
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Zuck-Thiel-Trump-Luckey-zenimax

Zuck seems to be considering a run for president in 2020. Thiel draws right wingers to agree with the technocracy. Hope you enjoy the matrix goyim


Connect the dots. My tinfoil sense is tingling.
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>>58755825
FUCK
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>>58755712
>mobas

You chose the worst possible thing to judge modern games.

There are other good games, you just need to know where to look, that doesn't mean that what you said isn't true to some extent.
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>>58755312
VR is easy shit. Just a lens infront of a screen.
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>>58755510
He's not a game designer mate. If those games were buggy pieces of shit like Bethesda games are you might've had a point.
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>stock is still up $3 for the day

can zuckerburg ever be stopped?
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>>58755669
>not a kike
>daughter is literally married to one
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>>58755878
the lines blur, anon. He's nothing special. Just look at quake 4 / rage - just generic fps, could be made by anybody
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>>58755895
He's probably overrated but still decent.
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>>58755530
He stole Apple computers from a school as a kid
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>>58755889
The MSM is playing up Bannon as the master behind Trump because he's a stereotypical drunk Irishman who represents the ultimate whitey strawman to push the 'Trump is a nazi' idea to both leftists as a negative and white nationalists as a positive.

Meanwhile the real men behind the scenes are Miller and Kushner

I wish i could discuss this shit on /pol/ but it's a hugbox likely shilled by Kushnerbux
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>>58755776
He's a more talented thief for sure. I'm kind of jealous.
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>>58755530
He admitted to pirating Ultima games. So he's basically satan.
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Any day that Facebook loses money is a good day.
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>>58755915
We all did stupid things as a kid. Man, there are so many jealous talentless faggots on /g/ just waiting to tear someone better and more talented down.
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depending on how big vr gets, 500 million is chump change 2bh. fucking dishonest piece of shit
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>>58755915
>He stole Apple computers from a school as a kid
Damn. He actually admitted to theft? What a retard.
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>>58755928
>Piracy is stealing
Okay shlomo
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>>58755963
He was caught
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>>58755974
And punished and he stopped it as he got more into programming.
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>>58755945
>stupid things
He created an explosive paste to bypass the window security and the only reason he got caught was because his obese friend opened the window and set it off. He was sent to get help and the adult described him as a "brain on legs"
He also was kicked out of a casino if I remember
He's literally a super autist
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>>58755963
>As reported in David Kushner's Masters of Doom, when Carmack was 14, he broke into a school to help a group of kids steal Apple II computers. To gain entry to the building, Carmack concocted a sticky substance of thermite mixed with Vaseline that melted through the windows. However, an overweight accomplice struggled to get through the hole, and opened the window, setting off a silent alarm and alerting police. John was arrested, and sent for psychiatric evaluation (the report mentions 'no empathy for other human beings' and describes Carmack as 'a brain on legs'). Carmack was then sentenced to a year in a juvenile home.

>the report mentions 'no empathy for other human beings' and describes Carmack as 'a brain on legs'
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>>58755982
Well, clearly he never stopped, seeing as he got Facebook into this mess.
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>>58755982
>he stopped it
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>>58756007
>>58756012
So carmack clearly isn't a saint, he doesn't deserve to be nailed to the cross like this.
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>>58756005
>'no empathy for other human beings'

>tfw too intelligent to empathy
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>>58756005
What a madman
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>>58755988
That's fucking awesome, not a thing to look down on him for.
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>>58756005
>>58755974
Holy shit... you know what they say: once a thief, always a thief.

I guess the guy has extremely low morals. So sad.
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>>58756024
Jesus was crucified alongside two thieves senpai.
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>>58755988
Also I forgot his very strange verbal tic and the fact he sent his beloved cat to the pound because it pissed on his couch once. The text said something about him removing any distractions from life no matter what it was
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>>58755988
>he's literally a super autist
but he works in worthless shit like FPS instead of NASA
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>>58756005
>>the report mentions 'no empathy for other human beings' and describes Carmack as 'a brain on legs'
FFFFFUUUUUUCKKKK. he's actually a psychopath.
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>>58756077
Some of the undisputed biggest autists on Earth dedicate their time solely to shitposting on Lainchan. Autism doesn't imply a benefit to humanity.
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>>58756077
I guess he hates change
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>>58756077
he works on things that interest him, exclusively.

how many people can say that?
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>>58755425
Man, from the description in OP it sounded as if Zenimax had the audacity to claim that they owned Carmacks future products from his experience working for them, but this shows they they essentially flat out paid him to work on the rift until the day he quit.
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>>58755312
Old habits die hard you know...
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>>58756077
He has a private space company you communist
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>>58756077
>autist works on things that he cares about instead of important things

Yea man the logic totally doesn't check out at all.
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guise, it gets EVEN BETTER


>Luckey will personally have to pay $50 million in the suit, while former Oculus CEO Brendan Iribe will be forced to pay $150 million.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/01/jury-awards-zenimax-500-million-in-oculus-vr-lawsuit/
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>>58756155
Zenimax are massive kikes, fuck zenimax they butcher everything they touch.
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>>58755312
did you even read what you posted, faggot? carmack is not guilty.
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>>58756176
>Zenimax are massive kikes
Facebook are even bigger.
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>>58756176
I kinda wonder if Trumps lil bro was behind this
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>>58756191
Shills don't care, they're paid to damage John's name.
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>>58756191
>did you even read what you posted, faggot? carmack is not guilty.
TOP KEK! Is that why FB is not paying a dime, shill?

Also, Zuckerberg and this asian man must be pissed. Oculus will be an even bigger failure than they imagined.
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Why doesn't facebook just buy Zenimax, stop the lawsuit and then sell them off?
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>>58756211
because it would cost them <PREVIOUS VALUATION>+$500 Million you retard.
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>>58756209
>100 BILLION DOLLAR MAN
top kek
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>>58756202
t. Quick-Fingers Carmack
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>>58755870
you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
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>>58756240
t. Pajeet
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>>58756209
If Facebook belonged to Carmack you'd have a point. But it doesn't. And you don't.
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>>58756236
However, with that money they can just buy all of the IP and then throw out Zenimax without any IP of their own.
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>>58756060
that 16:9 crt though.
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>>58756256
XD MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN
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>>58756541
t. carmack is a thief meme spouter
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>>58756524
was expensive at the time... NEC I think
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>facebook got burned
>carmack not even personally liable

seems good to me
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>>58756571
his reputation got burned.
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>>58756650
No it didn't.
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>>58756650
Pajeets still hate him

Actual nerds still idolize them

Nothing changed

>the media

The media are literal normies, we don't care and I doubt he cares.
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Carmack gets a hard on for creating useless crap like Megatextures that 5 years later no one and I mean NO ONE uses. He can't tell whats good from whats bad, he just likes to sit on his ass and type
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>>58756696
Wonder what he'll do next. He basically cost FB $500million. He'll have to leave for sure.
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>>58756696
>useless

Not everything that doesn't become a standard is crap, what did (you) contribute?
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>>58756715
Open sourced game engine with many followers on github
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>>58755407
>carmack
>beta
Hey yo fuck off. Carmack is my fucking 3d waifu you goddamn faggot.
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>>58755312
>you're not allowed to use previous work experience to do better at your current job

When did this happen?
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>>58756730
Was it used on anything? Some followers on GitHub doesn't mean success.

I mean that's great, but not enough to criticize Carmack.
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>>58756756
idk or gaf
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>>58756696
I think someone who's done as much as Carmack has is perfectly fine just taking the rest of their life off and doing nothing at this point.
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>>58756771
Such passion, if only all programmers were like you.
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>>58756791
he made a bunch of video games, not even good ones. The pinnacle of fps was something like a Halo 2 / 3
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>>58756864
>halo
nice b8 m8
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>>58756748
you missed the fact that he worked on Oculus tech while at Zenimax.
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>58756864
No (you) s for you, try better next time.
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>>58756864
>t. 2000s kid

They were great at the time, and he pioneered techniques for rendering graphics back then.

That you can use libraries to build a shitty video game is not impressive. Have you actually come up with anything that helped others?
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>>58756902
open sourced engine on github with followers and forks. I contribute 10x more to the FLOSS community than carmack ever has.
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>>58756951
>I contribute 10x more to the FLOSS community than carmack ever has.

So what? His achievements aren't even in FLOSS, they're in developing techniques and algorithms used for rendering computer graphics.

He made advancements in a field, while you made a run-of-the-mill game engine that probably sucks and doesn't bring anything new or interesting to the table. Why don't you post it here so we can see how influential it's been? Lmao
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>>58756696
Even id dropped megatextures and guess what? Performance and quality improved massively
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>>58756691
I don't think Carmack cares about anything that isn't whatever project he is currently fixated on. Which is why this whole situation happened actually.
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>>58755407
>beta
>married
>actually reproduced

ummmmmm anon you're going to have to look up the definition of that word again
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>>58757087
finding an asian mail-to-order bride is the easiest thing ever, beta cuck.
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>>58757087
>literally chose easymode
>children wont even have half his genes
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>>58755312
>Lost a case

Zenimax was asking 4 FUCKING BILLION DOLLARS, and only got 400 million (>inb4 only)

It's not that a big of adeal
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>steal tech from ZeniMax
>let Facebook pay for it

Was this part of his plan?
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>>58755858
>worst possible thing to judge modern games
>most popular games today
???
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>>58757136
If it's your genes you're worried about.
Enjoy never reproducing.
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>>58756005
This is straight out of a movie script
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>>58757220

But I`m not Carmack.

>Enjoy never reproducing.

Wasn`t planning to.
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>>58757136
Elliot approves.
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>>58756541
Poo in the loo
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>>58757220
>Enjoy never reproducing.
Not reproducing is better than producing these mongrels that are so fucked psychologically that will create problems for the society as a whole.
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lET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND. zENIMAX IS SUING BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY OWN SOMETHING CARMACK MADE FOR FUN, RIGHT?
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Carmack is anti-Trump too. This guy has really fallen off the deep end.
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>>58755312
wait a second. So Carmak did something for a company, go to another to work on the same type of technology and he stole his own code ? What kind of retardation is this ?
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>>58757341
all the code he produced was owned by the company that was paying him. that's how the EMPLOYMENT works you stupid NEET.
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>The liability of Defendants was established by uncontradicted evidence presented by ZeniMax, including (i) the breakthrough in VR technology occurred in March 2012 at id Software through the research efforts of our former employee John Carmack (work that ZeniMax owns) before we ever had contact with the other defendants; (ii) we shared this VR technology with the defendants under a non-disclosure agreement that expressly stated all the technology was owned by ZeniMax; (iii) the four founders of Oculus had no expertise or even backgrounds in VR—other than Palmer Luckey who could not code the software that was the key to solving the issues of VR; (iv) there was a documented stream of computer code and other technical assistance flowing from ZeniMax to Oculus over the next 6 months; (v) Oculus in writing acknowledged getting critical source code from ZeniMax; (vi) Carmack intentionally destroyed data on his computer after he got notice of this litigation and right after he researched on Google how to wipe a hard drive—and data on other Oculus computers and USB storage devices were similarly deleted (as determined by a court-appointed, independent expert in computer forensics); (vii) when he quit id Software, Carmack admitted he secretly downloaded and stole over 10,000 documents from ZeniMax on a USB storage device, as well as the entire source code to RAGE and the id tech® 5 engine —which Carmack uploaded to his Oculus computer; (viii) Carmack filed an affidavit which the court's expert said was false in denying the destruction of evidence; and (ix) Facebook's lawyers made representations to the court about those same Oculus computers which the court's expert said were inaccurate. Oculus’ response in this case that it didn’t use any code or other assistance it received from ZeniMax was not credible, and is contradicted by the testimony of Oculus programmers (who admitted cutting and pasting ZeniMax code into the Oculus SDK), as well as by expert testimony.
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>>58757353
I'm aware of that, what I meant is that you should expect someone to code the same thing the same way.
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>>58757375
wow. Carmac confirmed for a piece of shit.
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>>58757375
>Carmack intentionally destroyed data on his computer after he got notice of this litigation and right after he researched on Google how to wipe a hard drive

>Carmack had to fucking google "How to wipe a hard drive"

What the fuck John.
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>>58757375
>he researched on Google how to wipe a hard drive
I would love to see what he searched
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>>58757331

He`s a full fledged autistic libertarian.
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>>58756134
>important
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>>58757375
>devices were similarly deleted (as determined by a court-appointed, independent expert in computer forensics); (vii) when he quit id Software, Carmack admitted he secretly downloaded and stole over 10,000 documents from ZeniMax on a USB storage device, as well as the entire source code to RAGE and the id tech® 5 engine —which Carmack uploaded to his Oculus computer;
Sheeeeiiit nigga
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>>58755312
Anything that helps destroy the facebook botnet is good. Social media delenda est.
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>>58757375
>after he researched on Google how to wipe a hard drive

Shouldn't he be smart enough to use startpage? :|
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>>58757525
>Anything that helps destroy the facebook botnet is good. Social media delenda est.
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>>58757648
he is an android dev these days, I bet he did a quick search on whatever phone he had on hand to avoid using the company internet and never even thought about the consequences
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Dude stole 10 THOUSAND VR DOCUMENTS
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>>58757683
>he is an android dev these days
I bet lawyers told him to stop working on VR because it might further taint Oculus codebase and increase damages.
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>>58757167
you always ask for some thing retarded, and then the judge lowers it significantly. it's kind of like haggling
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i always knew that smug looking autistic faggot was a thief
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>>58757930
Ever heard him speak? I immediately knew he was a mega-autist.
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>>58755354
>company A pays to develop technology
>company B poaches employees who understand said technology and has them implement it
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>>58757263
XDDDDDD
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[autistic stealing]
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>>58758130
How is this a crime? It happens all the fucking time
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>>58758475
usually when you sign up for a job they make you sign a non compete agreement that you won't steal their shit and give it to other companies
usually only lasts a year from when you leave max though.
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>>58755312
$500 milliom to Zenimax?!

Better TES coming with big-ass budget!
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>>58758475
Because patent law, copyright and breaking of NDA's
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>>58758342
kek'd harded than i should have
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>>58758503
>>58758591

Where's all the freetards defending Jonny boy against the "evil laws". I'd understand he'd probably steal all this shit anyways cause he probably worked a fair bit on it and working for jewthesda was getting boring
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>Zenimax
every
fucking
time
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>>58755530
During the early days of Id, they stole computers from their day job to work on Keen. They'd also work on Keen on company time.

He hasn't changed a bit. He's a genius but completely untrustworthy.
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>>58755628
>8 years

That's not gonna happen mate, and you know it.
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>>58755312

WHAT STOCK DO I INVEST IN OR DO I SHORT
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>>58758644
Carmack's like an evil genius out of a comic book!
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>>58758616
>freetards
>defending Jonny goy, #1 facebook sodomite
>ever
>>
How long before Carmack leaves FB?
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>>58758985
Never. No one will hire a nigger that's been caught stealing comapny information, especially 500 million dollars worth of it.
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>>58759043
>he actually believes what he typed

you really have no clue
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>>58759130
can't you read, Tyrone? this whole thread is full of example of how sick this man is.
>>
>Get VR device 1 year before anyone else has a working customer product
>Release it for $700 so that 95% of the subhuman goymers cant even afford it
>No one buys it anyway because they don't know what it is
>Could have had a 99% market share right now if they sold it for $200 like their development kits
>Will not have to watch as HTC and the million of chink clones rape them for the next 5 years until they realize that they don't have hardware people and all their programmers are soul dead after having to develop better marketing software for the last 10 years
>>
>>58759130
t carmack cockrider
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>>58757213
>popular things are good or indicitive of a market as a whole
>>
So how do I wipe a hard drive without any chance of recovery /g/?

Of course the hard drives need to be usable
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>>58759130
Yeah, you're probably right, none of the laws will apply to him because he's le meme coder man working for kikebook and has 100 jewish lawyers lined up to defend his shittiness.
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>>58759659
dd
>>
>>58758475
>It happens all the fucking time
What kind of third world lawless shithole do you work at?
>>
Hahaha Oculus lost. What a disaster this entire launch has been.
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>>58759985
China probably
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>>58756209
>>58755407

Why don't they at least get cute asian wives? It's not like Asian women hate money.
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I'd be giving more of a fuck if facebook didn't own it

but
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>58758689
>he'll never win the primaries and you know it
>he'll never win the election and you know it
>he'll never live through the inauguration and you know it
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>Rift+Touch (3 Sensors)
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>ZeniMax
I seriously doubt Carmack did anything wrong here. They're butthurt about losing one of their best programmers and want to use their non-compete clause to try and hurt the new company he works for. It's easier for Facebook/Oculus to pay $500 than deal with an ongoing series of lawsuits.
>>
>>58757265
Found the /r/hapas user
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>>58760044
you can't make sense out of what autists thing & do.
>>
>>58757128
>I dont know who Anna Kang is
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>>58755312
Based Carmack dodging the bullet.
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>>58760516
>ppl don't know about some ugly chink
thanks for enlightening us, anon. tell us about the other billion chinks.
>>
Didn't you people already tell me that the HTC Vive is better anyway?
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>>58760853
it is... Oculus is fucking garbage.
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>>58760560
>I regret getting together with my wife who I dont share any burning interests with so I'll stay jealus of others who do.
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>>58760995
>jealous of some panface
>all that projecting
kek'd. tell us moar about your depressing life, anon.
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>>58755312
more like

>Johns CrapHACK
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>>58760516
she wuz kang?
>>
>>58755715
>after years of getting used to stutter and irregular frame times can't handle low input latency 60 fps.
Next thing you say "I am in "cinematic 24" camp".
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>>58755895
He is responsible for engines. To this day nobody is making engines, that run so well (low latency input, constant 60 fps).
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>>58756696
"Megatextures" was actual solution to actual problem.
https://youtu.be/BiQCz2NjPR8
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>>58757046
What are you talking about? New Doom uses megatextures. And, apparently, many other games use them to some extend.
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>>58758084
You mean, he always talks about something interesting?
>>
>>58755560
Are you refering to Daikatana? That was from Romero and his own company, Ion Storm. The only thing Carmack-made in this game was the licenced Quake-Quake 2 engine(s).
>>
>>58755648
>>58755878
The point is RAGE was a technical piece of shit. Have you ever played it on release/unpatched? Every time you would turn around textures would load in front of you.
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>>58760959
As I understand, Oculus is better for sitting experience. So it is more convenient as trackIR replacement. I, personally, don't want to deal with dedicated VR room in my house with sensors mounted in all corners. Just like I use headphones instead of 7.1 audio system.
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>>58761284
whther something he says is interesting or not doesn't mean that he speaks in a robotic manner and comes off as someone who can barely tie his own shoelaces
>>
>>58761332
It's not just that, even moving your head around is much more fluid with Vive.
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>>58755312

Zucc BTFO
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>>58761297
Some of that was driver problems. I, personally, take textures loading when I turn over game freezing entirely.
I played RAGE near its release on my laptop with GeForce 8400m 128 VRAM. It worked well enough for me to finish game and have fun (I was not trying to prove a point, just pirated it to have some fun).
>>
OCULUS IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
>>
Fuck Zenimax, and fuck Carmack for selling us out to Zenimax.

t. Quake Live player.
>>
>>58755312
Meh, $500m is ultimately chumpchange for Facebook, but what I do hope for is that Zeni will throw some of that cash to their studios, and make an Elder Scolls that's not shit for once.
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>>58755466
Because everyone who mattered had already left
ID was a dead company and Carmack didn't want it anymore
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>>58761297
Get a better GPU with more VRAM
>>
>>58756696
He didn't create megatextures, it was a previously existing technology he wanted to implement in vidya
>>
>>58756076
I really can't respect people who treat other beings like that.

He's the kind of man who works alone I guess. Alone or not at all.
>>
>>58756650
What reputation?
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>>58755312
nice, glad facebook and lucky are getting shafted but it was pretty inevitable with carmack there, he had pretty much already perfected VR before that faglord lucky started jamming his sausage finger up everyones assholes
>>
>>58755407
>>58757128
>>58757136
Why do you faggots leave reddit all the time? Back to aznidentity with you.

>they're stealing muh wymnnnn
>>
Pirates got rekt again.
>>
>>58755407
shes pretty hot wtf better than zucks one anyway
>>
>>58756883
Why is that worth $500m and not just the amount they paid him during that time though?
>>
>>58757375
What's wrong about this? Does Zenimax own the rights to the ID engine even though he wrote it now?
>>
>>58761586
>buttmad asian detected
lmao
>>
>>58761734
>do companies own the rights to the software their employees right
wow i fucking wonder
>>
>>58761741
Fuck off cumskin.
Only white woman and asian males produce good kids. Everyone knows that.
>>
>>58755407
go back to rdt and never come back
>>
>>58761748
But he wrote the engine before ZeniMax bought them.
>>
ZeniMax is in the right, Facebook is in the wrong. That is for sure.

My question is.. will the Facebook stock drop significantly? Should we short it?
>>
>>58761759
id owns idtech engine, zenimax owns id, i doubt there were any special clauses in there that let carmack keep the engine
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>>58755425
>Paid $100M for id
>Entitled to $500M in damages

What's the logic here? Just an asspull from some dumb judge?
>>
>>58761772
What about the fact that he's released it under the GPL in the past?
>>
>>58759985
The one with all the innovations.
>>
>>58761787
Ah, the profitable one that hires all of the software engineers. In California or Washington?
>>
Zenimax != Bethesda
>>
>>58757375
so google is spying on you?
>>
>>58755659
No, he just made them louder and more retarded than ever before.
>>
>>58756249
At least he got the lense part right.
>>
>>58756005
>fatty fucks it up
Every time.
>>
>>58761332
All you have to do is mount 2 small cubes with line of sight to where you are sitting and it's already better than those IR track sensors.
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Holy shit, best part is how John Carmack has to pay $150 million out of his pocket!

>with Carmack having to pay another $150 million

HAHAHAHA... he will go into debt over this since he's worth like $40 million! What a fucking retard.
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>>58762510
+ + CROWN HIM + +
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>>58762517
My Gimp skills are awful.

It's fucking hilarious tho! He worked his whole life on 3D games and made like $40-50 million dollars and then he fucked over some people and now everything he ever made will be gone and he'll be in debt.

HAHAHAHAH

What a madman. I bet he's considering a shotgun to his face.
>>
>>58762606
It's time to sell Armadillo Aerospace..
>>
>>58755790
everyone recognises fizzbuzz senpai
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>>58762641
It's worthless. He wrote it all off and gave up on it when he went to work on Oculus. He's got no side-projects now.

I bet his wife and kids wouldn't have to pay the $150 million if he were to suicide himself so that's probably what he's thinking about right now.

He's a fucking idiot for doing this and for deleting evidence and not being good at it. They also got his search records (from Google I presume?) and they found out that he was searching on how to delete his hard disk. LOL! He also stole the source code to all the id Software games that he sold to Zenimax.

What a madman!!
>>
>>58759043
>hire
cunt's rich enough to not give a fuck about that
>>
>>58762753
>cunt's rich enough to not give a fuck about that
you missed the part where he's on the hook for $150 million of his personal money. that's 3x more than what he earned in his life.
>>
>>58755312
So is this a case of zenimax claiming Carmack's experience as their intellectual property or a case of Carmack actually stealing something?
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>>58762702
but he can cook meth
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>>58756524
>>58756568
Must be stolen.
>>
>If you gain knowledge at another company, you are not allowed to use that knowledge outside the company
What the fuck is this retarded shit? what are you supposed to do? never use that knowledge ever? pretend to "re come up" with the same knowledge?
>>
>>58763061
he was still under contract while working with ocolus
>>
>>58755312
Jews jewing jews.
Whats new here?
>>
>want to get in the start-up train
>use some low-IQ stooge like palmer luckey
>heehhehe no way I'm getting caught
>net worth: -$100 million
#REKT
>>
>>58760110
>I seriously doubt Carmack did anything wrong here.
see >>58757375
>>
>>58762923
The charge for misappropriation of IP by Carmack was found not guilty. The settlement is only because of Palmer Luckeys breach of NDA by showing off the prototype as well as copyright infringement because they advertised Doom 3 as a VR ready game.

Carmack doesn't have to pay a dime, the 500m is split between Oculus (300), Palmer (50) and Brendan Irbe (150)
>>
>>58755354
Carmack worked on proprietary software Zenimax employment. Later copied the works he did on Zenimax on the hard drive and never returned that. Employee goes off to different company to work on same project where he left off.

Theft and copyright both apply here. Theft of actual codes and copyright where architectural designs were stolen.
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>>58761332
I got two photography lighting stands for super cheap so I can just pack it up and take it places, avoiding the need to mount the lighthouses anywhere fixed.

Works like a charm.
>>
>>58763061
>What the fuck is this retarded shit? what are you supposed to do? never use that knowledge ever? pretend to "re come up" with the same knowledge?

Did you read what actually occurred?
>>
>>58763419
>Carmack doesn't have to pay a dime, the 500m is split between Oculus (300), Palmer (50) and Brendan Irbe (150)
proofs?
>>
>>58762510
>>58762606
>>58762641
>>58762702
Guys, it's Brendan Iribe that has to pay $150 million, Carmack doesn't have to pay anything.
>>
>>58758130
>understand said technology
more like have it on their hdd
>>
>>58763471
>Guys
do you really think you're responding to more than one person?
>>
>>58763470
Any new site on the net.
It's just /g/ who is unable to read correctly.
>>
>>58763590
sorry, I only read Breitbart and Fox News
>>
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>
>>58755407
Looking at his wife, he clearly still has feelings for John Romero
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>>58755407
Hahahahahahaaaaa KEK
>>
>>58763667
their love will never die
>>
>>58755931
Except for the drastic methods they will use to get the money back.
>>
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>>58764539
Just look at this sexy motherfucker. He looks like an exotic porn star.
>>
>>58765205
>He looks like an exotic porn star.
if you say so, i for one don't get porn that features men
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Murdered or not?
>>
>>58765266
>don't get porn that features men
are you gay
>>
>>58756076
that cat story is what made me lose any respect for the guy: he would stab you in the back without any hesitation

This kind of ""people"" should be removed from the human gene pool, instead of celebrated
>>
>>58765154
sad delusions from a facebook flunky
>>
>>58765154
he's a thief. he deserved it!

God says..
inaccuracy indoctrination's parries monk inconsiderately plinths Erasmus clothing's mousiness joys earlobes unhealthiest unsigned cud guitar calking's bulldogs libellous Xingu's flashgun barfing Kroger Jacqueline Wolfgang's deprives symbiosis's scavenging skims chases foreskin's flattens philosophies
>>
>>58755312
>jury of peers
>they weren't programmers
why is this allowed?
>>
>>58755915
i thought i read he used thermite to do it too
>>
>>58755915
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAH WHAT A THIEF!!!!!!!
>>
>>58758475
>It happens all the fucking time
So do most crimes, so what?
>>
>>58757136
>children wont even have half his genes
So you failed Reproduction 101?
>>
>>58755354
"non-literal copying"
>>
>Facebook BTFO, Carmack BTFO & proven a thief. KEK

How is Carmack a thief? How could he steal his own work?
>>
>>58765518
because you made it doesn't mean it belongs to you
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>>58758643
This isn't a ((coincidence)) anymore
>>
>carmack
>nvidia fanboy
>thief
>facebook shill

Is there a WORSE person alive than this guy?
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>>58757136
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Daily reminder that Palmer Luckey is a furry, a brony, and a weeaboo. And he funded the Trump campaign.
>>
>>58765609
>he funded the Trump campaign.
Nigger, Trump self-funded himself. Lucky may have given money to the Trump campaign, but Trump is a multi-billionaire. He doesn't need furry money to do shit.
Also, off-topic.
>>>/trash/
>>>/b/
>>
>Carmack had to google how to wipe a hard drive
lol wut
>>
>>58765637
>he funded himself

lul, check out this ignorant /pol/tard
>>
>>58765655
>I have no logical argument let me resort to ad hominems
Even /pol/aks manage to understand that's not a fucking argument. No fuk off. You're trying to deril this thread
>>
>>58765683
*No fuk off
Now fuck off
>>
>>58765683
>he thinks a simple insult is an ad hominem
lol
>>
>>58765579
>supreme_gentleman.jpg
>>
So Suckerberg steals the Facebook idea, and now he's ordering his puppets to steal as well.

Will Mark go down as the most meme billionaire in tech? This man isn't even half the man Gates and Jobs are.
>>
>>58765609
>weeaboo
Don't lump me in with that low class sao-loving heathen. Disgusting.
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>>58765154
It fucking sucks when you find one of your childhood heroes is a thief, a cheat and a liar :(
>>
>>58765732
>This man isn't even half the man Gates and Jobs are.
>Gates and Jobs
Jobs is the most overestimated piece of shit ever. This guy litterally did nothing but HIV orgies and eating salads but somehow some shitheads all over the world can't stop thinking about him.
>>
>>58765732
>praising jobs
please finish yourself off
>>
>>58765843
john did nothing wrong
>>
>>58765844
>spewing bullshit
kys please. go back on your meds.
>>
>>58765978
>kys please
>go back on your meds.
Typical buttblasted mactoddler, when you have to thing for yourself you can't even put two sentences together without a clear oppsition between the two. Even my english makes more sense
>>
>>58761385
bless you and bless quake live before they fucked it and put it on steam
>>
Can we have another Carmack thread please? This one is not bumping and I think we haven't discussed it well enough yet.

Someone please make one.
>>
>>58766140
this is /g/entoo
it's easy to spawn threads

badum-tss
>>
>>58755312
>the verdict was "not material to our financials"
Basically it's chump change. The legal fees alone probably are almost that much.
>>
I used to look up to this man. Now, I despise him.
>>
>>58755604
This.

>>58756209
Oculus got fined for breaking a NDA and using videos of unreleased games as promotional material. Not because of stolen code.
>>
>>58765850

he was a master at UX
>>
>>58765717
>t. Doesn't understand Latin and argumentation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
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