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Why the hell is this shit replacing IRC for everything more and more?

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Why the hell is this shit replacing IRC for everything more and more?
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>>58754526

Nothing will ever replace IRC.
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Because it's better.
Why else?
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botnet
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>>58754566
>proprietary
>centralized
>everything logged
ok
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>>58754602
Literally who cares?
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>>58754526
sadly no one cares about their privacy anymore. so Software like that is rising.
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Just use matrix.org
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Don't worry, I wrote my own IRC bridge to it, so I can still use irc
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>>58754648
Is it botnet?
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only normies use discord. prove me wrong faggots.
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>>58754526
>not using the superior and open source Mumble with a signed certificate from lets encrypt
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>>58754627
$0.02 deposited in your bank account.
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>>58754689
On windows it forces users to be run as an administrator. it's closed source, so you dont know who else gets your data (their terms of service allow it being shared). It's free which makes you wonder how they make money; most likely sharing user data with advertisers.
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>>58754632

literally, do you care that you talking about how you railed some kid-you-dont-know's mom gets prismd?

if you wanna discuss cheese pizza, by all means use a private relay and encryted irc.

but like anything outdated, the reward/risk ratio's too slim for any normal usecase.
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>>58754689
no, it's just a really badly designed WebRTC based communication protocol
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You couldn't pay me to use that shit. Same with Skype or whatever else NSAormies use.
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>>58754526
because it's easier to use and fully functional without any client software off the browser.
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>>58754739
>>58754779
What's not botnet but also good?
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>>58754632
You're posting on a closed source propritary imageboard software, requiring you to use google botnet captcha to post on an imageboard run by a chink known for illegally data mining and selling personal information

>sadly no one cares about their privacy anymore
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>>58754801
Teamspeak and Mumble. Thousands of free servers to join, so no need to host your own
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>>58754526
Because it's 100x better than some shitty text chat, grampa.
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>>58754822
>join other peoples servers
>they could be recording everything you do
>you are willingly exposing your self
>some asshole keeps going to your channel blasting arabian music
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>>58754797
there are web clients for IRC too, which are even easier to use considering you do not have to sign up for some account

>>58754814
>closed source
it doesn't run on my computer, so it's not relevant.
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>>58754739
It doesn't force people to run it as admin though.
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>>58754839
>it doesn't run on my computer, so it's not relevant.
discord has a web interface you stupid cunt
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Cheap and easy to use.

Detects the vidya you're playing.
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>>58754835
Users outside your channel cannot record you. By default a server lets your set a channel password.
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>>58754858
that is still non-trivial proprietary code that runs on my computer.
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>>58754840
It does with certain settings. I think its 'push to talk' or running behind a full screen application on windows.
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>>58754872

implying password === encryption
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oh, look
it's another "/g/ hates some popular piece of software" episode
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>>58754526
Daily reminder that discord is just chrome and other than having push to talk and bots has nothing over fb messenger.
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Because no one cares about spying if the product is good
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>>58754892
Encryption is enablable by default too.
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>>58754526
it's not, it's replacing skype.
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Im not using this shit because how popular it went with dota, one day no one was using it and the then on january suddenly all people was talking about it.
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>>58754739
As far as i know it's currently a startup, which means "income source? what income source? we're just running this shit for free off of investor dollars while we think up a way to make money"
I think they have some premium subscription option now which gets you... skins for the client and more emotes, but I'm sure that's not going to support their business on its own.
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>>58754899
>has push to talk
so it's vastly superior
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>>58754907
it's used for irc-like group text chat shit
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>>58754925
NSA/CIA/FBI.
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>>58754925
Just read their privacy policy and TOS, shill. Absolute botnet collecting users data confirmed
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>>58754899
thanks, anon! I willl immediately register for a facebook account and start shitposting in my trap fetishism group using my real name
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>>58754689
No, it's basically the new XMPP using shit lile webrtc and federation.
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>>58754929
It's irrelevant, really. You can always use another piece of software for this. AMD GPU driver app has this.
>>58754952
If you don't have a Facebook account then I doubt you even have anyone to talk to anyway. Also, discord phones to Facebook so they're not different at all.
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why shouldn't I use discord, /g/?
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>>58754934
so? literally every fucking chat program has that and they never replaced IRC. Discord also has voice chat. If you're going to compare it with anything else, it's Skype and Teamspeak.
It's like IRC + Mumble with a fancy interface but with far worse customization and administration options.
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>>58754526
I refuse to talk to people unless they join my IRC server
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>>58754988
barely anyone I know still actively uses facebook.
maybe that's different in the US

>Also, discord phones to Facebook
I need a source on that
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>>58754952
>shitposting in my trap fetishism group
this is your typical discord user. you probably have a hyperdimension neptunia avatar and use the word "lewd" hundreds of times daily too
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>>58754988
>push to talk is irrelevant
For you.
>If you don't have a Facebook account then I doubt you even have anyone to talk to anyway.
That's irrelevant, really.
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>>58754526
The only thing I dont like is that I current have teamspeak, ventrilo, mumble, discord and skype on my computer, and belong to different gaming communities require me to use all of them.

I just wish we'd pick one thing and stick to it, I really dont give a fuck. Although discord does make organizing things really easy
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>>58754526
But Discord is basically for chatting while playing games.
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>>58754999
i should setup my client again
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>Implying irc users will change from something they've been using for twenty years

There've been so many chat applications since irc was invented, I highly doubt discord has a huge impact.
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>>58755048
especially when it's main competition is other VOIP programs like Skype, Teamspeak and Mumble, not a text chat program.
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>>58755081
Ya this, I dont see how irc and discord or the other voice chat programs are even remotely similar or competing.
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>>58755010
Not him but a pal with a rooted phone sent this to me. I didn't do network testing on the PC version. He also didn't have facebook or even Gapps installed.
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>>58754526
because they are still in the user growth phase.
just wait until they want to milk money
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>>58755134
discord support is pretty fucking fast, someone throw them a question about why they connect to facebook servers
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We have a similar thread up about this and the reason why is because IRC is built around shitloads banning 90% of users
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>>58755165
this

on the other hand i refuse to use discord. all my online friends still use teamspeak. Discord is for the same people that used to use skype instead of Mumble/TeamSpeak/Ventrillo. All hell to them
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>>58755165
>>58755215
Fun fact, the app crashes if it doesn't connect to Facebook. You must let it connect every time you launch it otherwise it won't work.
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>>58755191
how does changing client stop you from getting banned?

>>58755215
but vent was GOAT

soisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoi
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>>58755160
>Discord Nitro
Oh they're already there.
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>>58754526
Because it has more features that appeal to a wider demographic.

People don't care about open source or privacy, they care about usability. So, make a better program that's open source.
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>>58755267
at least it's only cosmetics so far and they said it would only be that in the future aswell.
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>>58755281
Mumble already exists. Slap a better UI on it and you got a superior Discord.
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>>58754526
It just werks and it holds the users' hand
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>>58755316
>just werks
>lags multiple times every day
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>>58755048
>implying the discord userbase mostly comes from irc users
it's marketed as a voice chat service for gamers to talk with their friends/teammates while in game
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>>58754526
>Discord

>>>/v/
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>>58754872
So you own the server and you have a way to prevent people from going in to your channel you're using on a free public server?
Oh wait you arent, said asshat can follow you everywhere because you cant set a password cause you're mod admin
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>>58755301
I used Mumble for the last decade, after switching to discord couple months ago I realised how bland it was compared to discord. I remember the feeling switching to Mumble from Teamspeak2 but it now it feels like the Devs gave up after completing their codec. There is a reason why backend coders can't do UIs.
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>>58755421
Public servers have the option to create a temporary channel where you can set a password and have elevated privileges over that channel, this is atleast on public Mumble servers.
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>>58754538
this, usenet is still strong too
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>nerds and outcasts continue to use IRC as it has always been
>underage gaymers use discord and get data mined

You should be happy that the plebs are cannon fodder keeping big brothers eye off from you.
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>>58754614
No one gives a shit about reading your autistic tendencies
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>>58756590
To be fair. How do you know the network you're connected to doesn't datamine you on IRC?
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>>58756620
>I like the video game Skype thingy
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>>58754538
>>58756447

there's nobody on IRC

show me an active IRC room, I dare you
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>>58754929
>>58754988


> mfw I have electrical tape over my mic as well as my webcam

> mfw it has been there a long time, to where its practically fused to the case.

>>58755010
>>58755134
Well what the fuck are people using then, because im not aware of any other big chat thing besides Messenger.com

discord is the first one ive heard about, and based on what a friend said its like a chat version of 4chan in terms of shitposting about things
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>>58754526

Fancier UI, built in VOIP.

Why to hate it:

>closed source
>bloat
>invasive in terms of how it can record and report information (programs active, stats etc)

!auth CodeHere etc is easier for normies than NickServ registration.

It's not all bad, but it's sadly the popular alternative that delivers additional functionality (mostly the VOIP) that you'd have to run another program for with IRC.

IRC shouldn't ever die, it's still got die hards who want server control (for those crazy enough to self host).
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>>58754998

But it has large amounts of features that makes IRC great, bots for one.

>text chat
Shared by literally every VIOP/IM program for decades
>file share
IRC, MSN, Skype etc all had this capability
>image posting
this is one advantage of discord being chrome, it can natively just render and display many image/video formats.

It's leaps and bounds better than IRC in some aspects, but a spooky mess (to a few people) because of it's propitiatory nature.

For normies it combines a technology that is ancient and used as the foundation to many chat programs over the years with most of IRCs additions (maybe discord will get plugins later?) and combines it with VOIP.

It's just easier to use 1 than 2 programs if you need both functions. IRC for most people has been trumped (and it was the same years ago when everyone used MSN over IRC). Nothing has changed, those who used IRC probably won't leave and in time there might be a way to mere to talk between the two.

At least over the last 8 years all I did with IRC was idle and download shit.
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>>58754999
How is it like not having friends, even on the internet?
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>>58756950
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am i the only one of you nerds that uses this?

i want my shares to be worth something

discord is for 12 year olds
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>>58754526
I like it because it's more difficult to hack.
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>>58754627
People smarter than you.
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>>58754526
marketing.
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>>58754526
custom smileys

msn
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>>58756950
#/mcg/ and #baot on rizon
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>>58757435
I use it via irc gateway
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>>58754907
this
irc's userbase isn't leaving
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>>58757435
it's okay because they offer reasonable services for free. but it doesn't really work when your colleagues don't want to use it and it's generally a pain to get someone into your group.
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For people who want to keep using IRC, use IRC.

For people who like discord, use discord.

Why are you people so autistic.
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>>58754526
>>58756950
go to freenode
>inb4 hurr durr
http://royal.pingdom.com/2012/04/24/irc-is-dead-long-live-irc/
(notice the date...)
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>>58754526
because it's fucking better:
it looks good
it's fast
it's consistent on all platforms
it's easy as fuck
it's intuitive
it has all the featues ever made

>inb4 richard stallmanesque retorts
nobody cares about ethereal principles so long as something works great. People will start to care for your noble principles when anything that comes from the world of those principles starts to compete. So far is hasn't - linux and most free software is a complete and utter disappointment for the typical "home pc" kind of usage.
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>>58757567
>rms
he will not divide us
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I've held my tongue for a long time on this board, but why do you guys obsess over making sure your Chinese Gentoo anime discussions are encrypted. Who the fuck cares?

If you REALLY needed the encryption then you would actually be discussing important things.
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>>58757567
>Gaining initial support and funding through YouWeb's 9+ incubator,[3] the company then raised funding through Benchmark capital and Tencent.[4]
When they start getting low on cash they're going to start fucking over their users. So enjoy it "working great" for now, because the good times won't last.
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>>58757552
how does that work? not familiar

>>58757558
yeah that's the biggest drawback. i'm really surprised they havent bought out Discord yet

their onboarding is shit
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>>58757662
And when that happens, something else will come along to surpass it. But it won't be free software cause we all know free software ends up being ass if it ever gets out of beta
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>>58757714
https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/201727913-Connect-to-Slack-over-IRC-and-XMPP
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>>58754526
It's normalfag friendly
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It's basically 4chan in instant messaging form, videos, pictures load on site, plus others use it creating an avalanche
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Normies can't figure out IRC.
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>>58756950
https://lewd.pics/irc
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>>58757891
tru
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>>58755134
isn't facebook graph the metadata shit for sites?

it's been used a lot in websites
https://davidwalsh.name/facebook-meta-tags
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>>58757891
This. IRC acts as an excellent normie filter, and I'm not even joking when I say that. When someone pops into a channel and they aren't using a web-based client you instantly know that they know their shit.
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>>58754739
Apparently their monitization plan is discord nitro- a subscription fee for larger uploads, custom emotes, animated avatar. Judging by the number of animated avatars, seems to be working pretty well.
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>>58758071
And paying for it doesn't exempt you from the data collection they do on non-paid users.
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>>58758078
The fuck are they collecting? The endless shitposting?
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>>58756950
ques/tg/eneral

heil Cutie G
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>>58758129
more data is more better
collect enough shitposting and you will find the face of god
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>>58754526
>all date you send it is owned by them
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>>58758129
what do tencent collect?
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Too bad I can't really convince my friends to use IRC and Mumble (or similar). They know Discord is fucking them in the ass but they don't care about being datamined and see it as autistic worry, in their own words.
Is there no escape, /g/?
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>Everyone freaking out because the oh noes the Discord devs are gonna read through my furry ERP logs
Seriously, if you aren't discussing anything super-secret or illegal, Discord works fine.
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>>58758690
someone get sarek from >>>/g/ptg/
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>>58758667
Forgot to add: I find it really sad how people just don't give a shit about owning and controlling their own data. So what if it's super mundane and unimportant shit? It's still your shit. I blame Google.
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>>58758667
just host a rocket.chat server
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>>58758129
Their not interested in you as an individual but the collective thought process. If enough people are repeating the same thing then you can bet your ass it's popular and rife for exploitation in the markets it effects.
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>>58758725
Brb, getting 1000 folks to copy/paste "Dragon Dildos" in every server they're in.
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>>58754526
Because IRC is older than most of the posters on this board. It's really shitty and archaic. The only people who use it today are mentally ill or have toxic personalities. There is no reason to be on IRC in 2017.
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>>58758713
just use tor and IRC if you want to continue engaging in pedophilia on the Internet you sick fuck
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>>58758852
Excellent argument, also the only one datamining advocates seem to have. Have a (you) for the effort.
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>>58754526
Because they're falling for the proprietary software meme. Don't worry, it's just a fad.
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>>58758887
do you have any valid practical complaint here?
>voluntary service
>free
>use it if you want
well?
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>>58758895
What you said right there is completely valid and correct. Sadly, much like office workers who are forced to use Skype to communicate with coworkers, I'm forced to use Discord because I have friends and a social life. It pains me but that's just how it is. I pray every day so they see the light eventually.
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>>58758948
if you're just using it for these mundane things, what's the issue? just use it and don't worry about it
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>join discord hoping to talk with other internet autists
>they are unironically using it as an IRC with memes
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>>58754526
Discord pisses me off because my friends switched to it instead of IRC because it's easier.
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>>58758667
>>58758713
If you just use Discord to shitpost who even cares? It's like getting upset over people stealing shit out of your garbage cans
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>>58757599
fucking kek
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>>58758723
Thanks Anon.
Not OP but I'll give it a spin on ol' Debian here and see where it takes us.
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>>58759244
How *is* it supposed to work then, anon?
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>>58756950
/srg/ on #SRL for a 4chan related IRC room
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>>58759863
>give in a spion
>spin
>spind

kek
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>>58760008
it's a voice comm for gamers
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>>58754526
it's sleeker and easier 2 use and web 2.0
also collects and sells your personal data
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irc has exploits. discord does not
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Is ./g/ realy this autistic?

You guys complaining about being datamined while using 4chan?
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>>58760383
discord has exploits
if someone gets your token, they bypass 2FA

there is no recovery from getting the token stolen, as they cannot be changed

getting the token is the hard part though
selfxss is possible, or a physical attack

lock your computer kids
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>>58760454
irc has more
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>>58754526
It isn't even supposed to compete with IRC, so much as Vent, TS, Mumble, Skype, Steam, X-fire (RIP) and various other gaming-oriented applications.
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I have never used IRC before, what even the point?? I mean I understand the principle but why bother?
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>>58760543
he says as he posts on 4chan.
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>>58760543
there is none. its for dweeb losers.
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>>58760563
Correct. I use 4chan. So why would I also chat in IRC? Especially if I can't be anonymous? Wouldn't I just go to reddit if I wanted karma points and respect?
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>>58760607
>Especially if I can't be anonymous


>he doesn't hide his host
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>>58760607
to communicate with multitudes of people. why the fuck else?
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>>58754526
I haven't seen it replace IRC, but I have seen it replace Mumble/Teamspeak/Skype for people who use voice chat

Their only reasoning being that Skype is shit and that they can't host a Mumble or Teamspeak server themselves
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>>58760622
Congratulations, you learned how to green text. I already said above that I've never used IRC. A possible response to that could have been "you can hide your identity"
Also, you have to go back
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It's not replacing IRC, it's replacing Skype, which had already replaced IRC.
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>>58760690
you type like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
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this thread is viral marketing.

Discord is so obviously a Chinese government-controlled surveillance network and anyone who uses it is god damn fool.

Mumble at least respects your freedoms and privacy. Who knows what happens to anything you say through Discord?
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>>58760722
Ok
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>>58760728


I feel sorry for the chink having to need dechiper my inhause bots.
I only use it to manage inhouse using bot league, something similar like what I used to do with Battlenet and IRC back then.

Not many people used IRC these days and not many games support the API integration making it hard to manage them.
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>>58754614
>free
>easy to use
>pretty to look at

This is all the matters.
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>>58754717
Literally who cares
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>>58754988
>you can always use another piece of software for something this piece of software does

what
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Because I can post my memes into chat which TS3 cant.
this is my only reason.
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>>58754739
It forces admin so push to talk works while in game, why act like its some conspiracy
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>>58758071
Custom emotes? I can put in custom emotes already. Are you talking about extra emotes that they will provide through discord nitro?
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>>58758745
I mean I don't think this would be the first time something was drastically affected through users actions Worth a try. They might have a filter for Dildo though.
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>>58754941
dis
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You can post pics and stuff I'm assuming is the reason
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>>58757605
Precedent.
Part of the current Supreme Court interpretation of the Fourth Amendment involves societal expectations of privacy, which are obviously not static.

That's the shortened version, but the thrust of it is that I quite like my rights and the "who cares it's just X" crowd is genuinely shrinking them. (Up to a point, there is currently a more or less limit to how intrusive some things can be regardless of society.)

I also just don't like the idea of being so open to being spied on for no real reason very much.
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>>58754526
I can tune volume of every individual in channel.
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>>58754905
it's not end to end encryption...
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https://discord.gg/9RFGp
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>>58754890
Still wrong.
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this cord seems to need people like, friends.

Last time I tried it I had to add people. IRC has this thing where you get into channels and you meet people, get banned and get into other channels until people can cope with your existence
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>>58754672
R-really? can you show me, please.
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>>58762637
you could just join discord channels where there is a lot of people for example csg's discord or the discord channel for your favourite youtuber etc.
recently had to create an account because not all channels allow you to chat anonymously
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>>58756371
teamspeak offers the same functionality
>>58755421
(teamspeak) temporary channels can have passwords set. Admins(and depending on server settings, other user groups like mods) can join password protected channels without having to enter a password.
>>58762058
>>58754892
from http://forum.teamspeak.com/threads/65261-Encryption-Question-What-exactly-is-encrypted-in-TS3?p=317212#post317212
Filetransfer data is never encrypted. Voice data is configurable (you can configure it if you edit the virtual server, on a global level, or it can be configured on a per channel level), if you click on a channel you will see in the info pannel if voice data in this room is encrypted. Everything else is encrypted (all command data which includes text messages, passwords etc.). The encryption used is, as you guessed correctly, AES.
Serverquery appears to be unencrypted as well.
>>58754905
Encryption can be turned globally on or off, or set individually per channel[default]. IIRC channels default to encrypted.
>>58754822
>>58754801
>Teamspeak
+feature-rich(file transfer+hosting etc.)
-proprietary
-servers above 32 slots(i. e. concurrent users) may require you to pay license fees
>Mumble
+open-source
+free, even for large commercial servers
-lacks many features that teamspeak has

If you just want basic voicechat, pick mumble, otherwise teamspeak unless you need more than 32 slots, self-host, and can't get an NPL
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>>58754988
>If you don't have a Facebook account then I doubt you even have anyone to talk to anyway
seriously dude?
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>>58757978
so much this
it's surprising how much you can tell from someones client
>web-based
>desktop GUI client
>CLI client
>some "cloud-based" bouncer service
>self-hosted bouncer
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>>58754526
Generation Z kids like """"""apps"""""" that are hip and new. IRC will always stand the test of time.
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>>58763341
But teamspeak lacks quality audio. Mumble is really the only alternative.
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how do i stay anonymous on irc?
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>>58763604
virtual hosts
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Isn't discord just an IRC skin?
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>>58763424
I jumped from 2 straight to 5 on your list after about a few weeks of regular use, shit isn't even that hard to set up.
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>tfw too young to have used irc back in the day

At least my discord is for shitposting shenigans only. I've setup irc but there was no reason for me to use it.
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>>58754526
This shit is literally the reddit of chatrooms.
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>>58763687
no its a messenger skin

>>58763604
by deleting your account

>>58763948
>ribbit ribbit ribbit!!!
kys immediately, your family won't miss a thing
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>>58763974
Reddit basically monopolized internet forums. Discord is the same shit for chatrooms.

Spot being fucking autistic.
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>>58763984
>basically monopolized internet forums
LMAO
well now without a doubt I know I'm speaking to a certified autist
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>>58754632
I don't give a shit about privacy, when what I use it for is to have a music bot while I voice chat with friends about gay and retarded shit I would otherwise be taking about on phone or in person. If they collect anything on me it's a treasure-trove of links for the bot to play Girl from be Ipanema, Nagila Hava and Allahu Trapbar
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>>58763974
>by deleting your account
Why would write something like this?

Do you feel like you are part of some kind of superior secret club because your are shitposting in irc with green font?

Seriously?
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>>58763996
im only 20 iq pts behind a man (einstein) who debunked the majority of physics by thinking about trains. And seeing as physics deals with true complexity and other science do not, its even more reasonable for a 140 to be able to trash your kind than it was for a 160 to trash physics ;)
if ur iq was above 140 u wouldnt be as butthurt about the concept of a 140 hyp grad lurking this beta barn..
so the logical conclusion is that ur iq is lower than 140 (possibly much lower)

if you met me in real life you would instantly be blown into a world where all that mattered was getting me to acknowledge your existence and even hopefully be your friend... But i would probably find you to be a desperately uninteresting person and want you to exit my awareness as fast as possible.
the fact that i dont lie about my iq is what gives me the edge necessary to call you an inferior little girl who couldnt understand basic physics, and BE RIGHT ABOUT IT.

honestly if i woke up one morning and for some reason my thinking capacity had devolved to your level, it would take me less than 5 min to run to the kitchen and slit my throat...
maybe your going to tell me u work at goldman..
but ud still be way inferior, as is anybody who projects their iq to be higher than it is..

maybe thats the point, inferiorboy ;)
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>>58764129
o man wow, my ego;crushed
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>>58764179

Did you just copy-paste that in preparation? Seriously, I just copy-pasted and googled this crap and the first thing that comes up is:
> reddit
First off, moments after my post got through, you decided to make a 'I am better than you' post which is basically a copy-pasta. Seriously, I'm not impressed especially how you're just plagiarizing at this point.
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>>58764183
o man wow, my ego: crushed
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>>58758844
>>58758844
>The only people who use it today are mentally ill
so much this, it is great to talk about drugs with irc folks because of that. not sure about toxic though.
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>>58758844
I tried Discord and gave it an honest chance but I found that it's basically a bunch of 12-16 year old kids with shitty attitudes who speak in memes. So much for "toxic personalities".

At least on IRC you can find older or more knowledgeable users, and there is xdcc (which is my main reason for using it).
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>>58764618
what is xdcc
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>>58764618
do they also automatically mute new accounts without letting them know?
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>>58764684
So is that the source of the majority of hate toward IRC? You get muted or banned and then automatically think it's shit?

LMAO
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>>58764618
>At least on IRC you can find older or more knowledgeable users
IRC is the preferred platform of those 45-year-old men who intentionally misinterpret what you're saying so they can vaguely and condescendingly respond as if you're completely wrong and clueless, even though they themselves don't fully understand what you are saying. It's like every low-tier IT employee uses IRC.

Discord is just a platform, though. Yeah, there are 12-year-olds, but it depends on the server--pretty obvious.
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>>58764705
i think it's reddit tier muting for new accounts or something
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>>58764705
>majority of hate toward IRC
>>58764770
also i was talking about discord not irc
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>>58754526
Massive shilling.
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>>58760952
>free
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>>58764732
>but it depends on the [channel]--pretty obvious.

Same thing applies. You can find shitty people on IRC, no doubt. But it's not like everyone you meet there is an underage meme loving faggot. I've met some really great people on IRC. I can't say the same thing for Discord (and I really don't want to, to be prefctly honest).
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>>58756950
#fuelrats and #ratchat on Rizon
>inb4 HURR VIDYA
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>>58764811
> But it's not like everyone you meet there is an underage meme loving faggot

Right, because they're all balding 30-, 40- and 50-somethings who go on IRC to bicker, to blow off steam after they get home from their shitty middle management IT job, and to hang out with other, similar people.

There are some exceptions, like the weeb and NEET types who are there for similar reasons (extremely flawed individuals).

Do you think any successful people except for people like Linus Torvalds actually use IRC? No.
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>>58764618
>I tried Discord and gave it an honest chance but I found that it's basically a bunch of 12-16 year old kids with shitty attitudes who speak in memes. So much for "toxic personalities".
this is true, also, anyone with a ahegao or any anime girl avatar is pretty much bound to be an edgy, underage kid that says "lewd" and erp's everyday, i hate the discord comunity.
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It's by far the best messaging program I've used.
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>>58765610
Name some famous and successful people that use Discord
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>>58760454
the token is changed when you change your password
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>>58766006
>It's the first messaging program I've used.
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>>58766283
I've used various IM programs in the past 16 years. It's really good.
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>>58754941
no one will ever read or care that you talked indepth about an incest anime with your tf2 buddies. Take off your tinfoil hat
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The phone app is good too, nice dev team putting updates out often and informing of future updates, still pretty lite

only waiting for screenshare
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>>58765846
>>58764618
get off muselk's server then
Every channel im on is one i made or friends made to talk to each other, and mostly its just private messaging
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>>58766442
>Private
>Discord.
Hey I like the program but lets not pretend anything in there is private lol.
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>>58758723
You can learn an awful lot about someone from their garbage.
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>>58766795
Ment to quote
>>58759467
>>
Fucking faggots, all of you. Slack is where it's at.
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>>58754709
Mumble could use some optional persistent chat imo
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IRC failed to innovate. plain and simple.

also for those who want to access discord via terminal:
https://github.com/Rivalo/discord-cli
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>>58767125

i'd rather not use the hash tag meme, i've graduated 7th grade

thanks tho
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>>58759259
>because it's easier
How the fuck is this convoluted piece of shit any easier than IRC?
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>>58768082
Endless entertainment from these hipster contrarians. What's next? Linux has an easier to use desktop environment than Windows?
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>>58768119
>Linux has an easier to use desktop environment than Windows?

yes. GNOME 3 is pretty good.
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>>58768119
How can you make anything simpler than IRC?
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>>58768119
>Linux has an easier to use desktop environment than Windows?
This is correct
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>>58768119
>linux has a built-in desktop environment
This is what winbabbies actually believe.
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>>58767125
wrong

Matrix

>>58768139
you don't
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IRC became irrelevant after 2004.
even then, users were slowly disappearing.

discord is just another social media gimmick for normal people who are too stupid to comprehend basic commands, such as /join or /part.
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>>58768144
>Matrix
This.

Matrix seems to be basically XMPP but without fucking XML.
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>>58768134
>>58768139
>>58768140
>>58768143
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>>58768040
>IRC failed to innovate
The point of IRC is to be fast and resource light. It can't fail by definition since bloating itself and making itself as slow and shitty as Discord isn't its purpose.

>>58754526
Because stupid people require something that's easier to access than IRC, yet which is bloated with loads of graphical useless junk they are used to using.
That simple.
>>
IRC is the spirit of plaintext freedom. Mailing lists, however, are a different story!

TrueGNU~
>Skype-- No way! That's proprietary!
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>>58768173
b-but /g/ said IRC was easier to use!

Which is it, /g/?
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>>58768210
IRC is easier to use when you break through the learning curve of a day or two of using it for a few hours.
This is too much for normie standards, to from a normie standpoint, it's not easy to use because they are on average dumb as shit.
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>>58768231
>IRC is easier to use when you break through the learning curve of a day or two of using it for a few hours.

So in other words, it's not easier. Thanks for clarification.
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>>58768040
Obvious bait, but i'll take it :
IRC serves it's purpose and does it well.
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>>58768259
Yes.
It's the same way as with learning how to do a forward roll on the ground.
It takes a few tries to get it right, but some people are too stupid to expend even this little effort so they never learn it and get an F in Physical Ed.
The learning curve between using IRC and learning a forward roll is about the same.
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>>58768194
>shit print screen functionality
This is the only difference I notice and it annoys me that windows can't just select which part of the screen to capture. Not to mention the lack of customization. But I don't count that as a flaw as it's subjective and Aero is beautiful by default.
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IRC cant share pics similar to Discord and looks like fucking ass
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>>58768202
>The point of IRC is to be fast and resource light.

But the IRC protocol has its own scaling issues. It requires all servers on the network to maintain a full list of members of every channel, even if there aren't any members of that channel on that server..
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>>58764050
>allah referenced logged
>fbi informed
you are one step closer to Guantanamo kiddo
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>>58768314
>Aero is beautiful by default.

this is a joke post right?
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>>58768317
>looks like fucking ass
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>>58768317
upload and share link or dcc
wow hard
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>>58768173
>IRC became irrelevant after 2004.

Yet Twitch uses it, so much for being irrelevant, lel.

>>58768210
>b-but /g/ said IRC was easier to use!

Maybe for children. Takes not even a few sessions to get it down. Discord is fine for /v/ faggots but not much else, even the WDG one is full of faggots.
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>>58768297
Or you could just use Discord, which is easy to use and feature-rich, unlike the collective convoluted abandonware that are IRC clients.
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>>58768323
lolnetsplits
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>>58768348
yeah its infinitely more complicated thatn throwing it directly to discussion ya retard
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>>58768314
They can, you'd know that if you were educated. Can't blame you though, most Linux hipsters aren't intelligent. They're the same type of people that get opportunistically outraged by things the media feeds them.
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>>58768335
It's not. I honestly thinks that. Why are you baffled by other people's opinions?
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>>58768361
how
3 clicks instead of 2 clicks?
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>>58756950
#chat, Rizon
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>>58768375
>they can
Okay, how?
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>>58768356
I gain nothing from using Discord except an even slower experience than IRC. All the communication features i need, i already have in IRC sonny jim, except faster and with less resource hogging.

Even if i had MSN chat these days, or Google Talk, i'd still use them over Discort because of the same reasons; they are faster, they use less resources, and they have everything i need.
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>>58756950
Currently im on a 200+ permanent member group.
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>>58757372
whats the interesting client/skin anon?
>>
I don't know, but a friend of mine insists on using it. He said everything is botnet these days anyway. The sad truth is, he's right.
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>>58754602
>implying modern irc server don't log everything
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>>58768390
alt+prtscr for active window capture, snipping tool for selection
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>>58768459
>snipping tool is better than shift+prtscr
No thanks.
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>>58768259
Not sure what is he talking about.
I started using IRC like 2 weeks ago so I can remember it.
Googled "best IRC client", downloaded, (no installation), clicked Edit input channel, clicked connect.
done.
Whats your problem? Can you read?
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>>58768459
Also win+prtscr saves the image directly to disk.

>>58768477
Ok. I mean there are plenty of programs that add even more functionality, you just have to educate yourself. http://www.fiastarta.com/PrtScr/
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>>58768314
>Aero is beautiful by default
You need to be at least 18 to visit this site.
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>>58768383
What's this chat about
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>>58768400
I dunno, x-chat for example uses twice the amount of RAM Discord uses. Even if what you were saying was true, IRC lacks the features Discord has, not to forget IRC clients are more convoluted, harder for inexperienced users and frankly, nobody even uses IRC anymore making it useless.
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>>58768519
Conforming windows doesn't work well out of the box.
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>>58764129
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>>58768556
>IRC lacks the features Discord has
None that i need, which makes this a non-argument.
>not to forget IRC clients are more convoluted
So are some Discord channels with the way their topic channel division is named and divided.
>harder for inexperienced users
Good that i'm not one.
>nobody even uses IRC anymore making it useless
Nobody relevant to you maybe, but that makes it a good thing sine other people's needs don't in any way reflect or revolve around your needs as an individual.

This is the problems with shilling software,
you are so dumb and self-centered that you think
that other people's needs and experiences are
always the same as yours, as if the whole world
is a projection of yourself. It's not, and thank fuck it's not.
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>>58768625
Whatever makes you feel better about using outdated and useless software, hipster.
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>>58768625
I love to watch /g/ defened abandonware and dead programs, another one of my favorites is how retard tracker general meme'd everyone to use 2.2.1. utorrent
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>>58768603
I've never needed an additional program to take screenshots in Windows, you're the one with the special needs.
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>>58768556
wtf
>>
I mean if it uses less resources and has all the features that you need then just fucking use IRC instead of Discord
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>>58768667
>no software OOTB
yeah, Winshit is good and people who want a proper media player/better paint/non-shit text editor/non-shit browser/office/etc have special needs.
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>>58768649
I'd rather be a hipster than a parody of some religious faggot who needs the whole world to believe in the same thing he does with the mental tact of a cocaine addiction.
So long as the people i know use it, i'll use it.

Just how lacking is your personality and life when you resort to using communication software as self-validation? Apply yourself.
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>>58754526
>Free and no ads
>Highly interactive chat client
>Multi-server support in one location
>Very supportive and convenient
>Works near flawlessly
>Isn't a garbage piece of shit to look at like TS3 (Even with skins) and Ventrillo
>""""Free""""

It's simply better and your contrarian personality will hold you back, anon.

>Inb4 proprietary
>Inb4 mah China botnet

Literally L M A O
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>>58760474
>exploit
name one
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>>58768764
>Free and no ads
>Implying any IRC client has them
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>>58754526
voip
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>>58768764
lel
Never seen an IRC client with
> ads / paid
> non-interactive - wtf is this point anyway
> multiserver support - wtf why couldnt u have servers on IRC
> supportive wtf are you disabled
> works flawlessly - wtf, dude just what is this shit
> free mentioned in the first point already
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>>58756950
I still use IRCs, is the only way i have to keep in touch with friends. So we use it almost dialy.
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>>58764804
as in free beer
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>>58754526

it's totally shit and unnecessary but they probably have shills on reddit and they market it towards gaymers

>>58758844

t. discord misinformation agent
>>
its easy to use mang
in some irc server i had to register my nickname and activate with email and then i forget about the password or the email i used to reg and have to start again
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>>58768764
>Literally L M A O
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>>58768684
>I mean if it uses less resources and has all the features that you need
And it doesn't use half the screen or a whole browser page like Discord.
I can stuff a narrow 350 pixels wide IRC window client on the side and lose nothing in the process, with minimal workspace impact, and work on shit on the side of it while communicating with people without having to ALT-TAB and shit.
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>>58755335
they'd rather deal with that than having to right clock some things
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>>58768825
This is really the only issue with IRC, registration isn't supported by the protocol or anything, it's tacked on with extra commands.
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>>58768527
When compared to w10, w7 looks godlike.
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>>58754526
IRC is literal trash.
But discord is also trash. There are no good chat clients for computers.
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>>58768832
this
>>
Seems like it's easy as hell and convenient, honestly. IRC is obviously gonna be better if you want security, but who cares if you're just talking about video games or porn or something.

Being able to just join servers with no account is nice too. I know you can do that in IRC too, but I mean comparing it to literally any other chat service.

It's gonna overtake dedicated voice chat clients like Team Speak in no time, too. I haven't tried Discord voice much but people say it's shit compared to TS. However, I guarantee the quality will be improved and TS will bite the dust.
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>>58769398
>easy as hell and convenient
Fuck no it isn't. Nothing gets simpler than IRC really.
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>>58769418
I've always had to type shit to get into certain channels in IRC. I haven't used it in years so I barely remember. I like how everything is just listed and you can click on it with Discord.

IRC is simple in a raw sense, that it's not bloated or anything, but not as simple to use as Discord I've found.

Maybe I need to try out IRC again.
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>>58769418
keep telling youself that

You click a discord link it takes you to the server

you want on irc

/join (server)
/join (channel name)
Oh shit channel needs me to register
/nickserve register (email) (password)
go to email
get confirmation
/nickserve identify (confirmation)
/join (channel name)
get into channel
fucking no one is there.

Only reason I even use irc anymore is when I want to download something and bots have it

fucking pain in the ass to find the right bot
fucking pain in the ass to find the file
fucking pain in the ass to download from the bot
different rules different servers, all this bullshit hoops.

I want to talk to someone, email them
I want to chat, its going to be discord from now on because of ease of use, and skype royally fucked me over.
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>>58769455
irc is simple yet archich

discord is simple and modern.

irc is from a time when cli was the only interface.
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>>58769476
It's second nature to a lot of people, but gotta face the facts that your typical friend isn't gonna be patient enough to use it. I've barely used Discord, but I already know I can make a server in seconds and have even the most tech illiterate of friends join on it.
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>>58769418
>Nothing gets simpler than IRC really.

You are deluded.
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>>58754832
+1'd
(upvoted)
(liked)
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>>58769521
>I can make a server in seconds and have even the most tech illiterate of friends join
Why would you want tech illiterates to join?
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>>58769521
I had the distinct displeasure of teaching a tech illiterate person how to join an irc manga server to download releases, what was it called, manga cow or something? it was from before the online downloaders were around, and before the secret club, I want to say around 10-12 or so years ago

holy shit, was that a fucking chore

If not for my guidance there was not a chance in hell of them every using it.

I sent my same friend a discord link and they instantly understood every aspect once they knew 'here are chat servers' and 'here are voice servers'
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>>58769558

One of them is a great cook and the other one got a really sexy 16 year old daughter.
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>>58769558
Brother and cousins. It took my brother half an hour to join a Team Speak server even though I had it downloaded for him and even had the server we'd always be using bookmarked when I built his computer.
>>
Also, anything that fucking kills Skype. I'm getting real sick of its bullshit. I still have to use it because one friend refuses to change.
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>>58769455
>>58769476
>>58769523

I'm not >>58769418 but I'm genuinely curious. How is IRC "complicated" at all? I didn't think people who found it difficult to use IRC would be on /g/ of all boards.
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>>58769624
Not difficult, I just find it more tedious than it needs to be when there's now a replacement. It's not really too complicated though. Doesn't matter, no one is using IRC and everyone is going to be using Discord so might as well just embrace it.
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>>58769624
>didn't think people who found it difficult to use IRC would be on /g/ of all boards.

For a vir/g/in, it won't be a problem to used IRC services, but this statement >>58769455 is fucking retarded.

IRC was one of the most popular method of chatting since more than a decade ago.
You, me and the whole /g/ know how to used IRC.
But calling it the most simple chatting method compare to current modernized and casualized chat engine is fucking retarded.
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>>58769686

>this statement >>58769455 is fucking retarded

Wops, wrong quote. >>58769418
>>
So how long until Discord gets bought up by facebookVR in partnership with occulus?
>>
They share your data with third parties as per their privacy policy. Also, anything you give them when using their service they're free to do with as they please.
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>>58769720

Ice cream? god I love ice cream!
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>>58769707
This fact is incredibly gay. Can already see it getting bought out like everything else and start to be loaded with ads and bloat.

My Skype window is 25% chat with giant, double spaced chat bubbles and 75% ads and blank space. I'd rather be using fucking AIM, you could fit ten times as many messages in the same spot because there were no stupid bubbles.
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>>58769665
>no one is using IRC and everyone is going to be using Discord so might as well just embrace it.
Thank God no one from my favorite IRC channels is embracing that.

>But calling it the most simple chatting method compare to current modernized and casualized chat engine is fucking retarded.
I don't know, I was struggling with Discord for the first 10-15 minutes or so. Don't think that just because it's modern and casual that the GUI isn't total ass and counterintuitive for new users. Worst part is that they also embrace a smartphone-like GUI for their desktop application.
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>>58769749
>Worst part is that they also embrace a smartphone-like GUI for their desktop application.
As long as it's not big ass chat bubbles, I'm totally fine with it. I love its compact mode.

I hate how everything is a chat bubble now, especially in text messages when you want as much to appear on the screen as possible.
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>>58769749

>Works for my computer

Discord is literally IRC for tech illiterate, pure and simple.
Even today a freaking 8 years old can make their own server in it, meanwhile some people are struggling to help their families getting into IRC 15 years ago.

IRC days is done, it was one of most popular chatting method back then, but the archaic system is killing itself and making new people reluctant to use it when simple and casual chat service like discord exist.

This also for answering OP question.
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>>58763886
>back in the day
what are you talking about?
>>
I do like the different nickname per server thing. Can still just log into one account and have all your servers handy to click on, but you'll be displayed as someone different if you change the nickname.

Not really a groundbreaking feature, just surprising in a world that wants to link all your shit together. Google is pretty cancer in that regard, might as well just publish my SSN next to my name while you're at it.
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>>58769816
Discord will not replace IRC because it's centralized. Usually centralized chat services have no long staying power because the service depends on one maintainer.

MSN messenger, for example, is in the dustbin of history for this reason even though substantively it was no worse than Discord. You could start large-scale group chats on it, which is the selling point of Discord today except Discord calls them "servers" even though they aren't hosted on a user's computer.
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>>58770036
>Discord will not replace IRC

No one saying about replacing anything, I only said the popular day of IRC is done.
Isn't that what make /g/ more happy? Now IRC is less mainstream,

>Yay! less normie or retarded non-tech people
>Yay! no more teaching my relations how to register to an IRC server so he can chat with 17 years old girl from another country.
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>>58769624
I am >>58769476

Not sure how it is now, but when I first used irc it was treated as a secret club, bans for not knowing how to use it, no real way to learn how to use it without going through the bans, it was a fucking nightmare and I only persisted through the shit show because it was the only way to get what I wanted pre bittorrent and pre file host sites.

I find it hard to think of a shittier community as a whole.
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>>58769740
I like the bubbles because I keep programs like this oppen and give them cursory glances, 1 line of text may be missed but you aren't missing a fucking bubble.
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>>58768556
>x-chat
why would you use software that's gone without updates for 7 years, hexchat if you want an updated version
>features
I dont want annoyances
>irc is hard
no you're just retarded. It's easier for someone to just hop on some irc web client than to install software and get invested in discord.
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>>58770349
>than to install software and get invested in discord.

Anon, discord software is literally a web browser.
There is no reason to install it unless you don't want to open a web browser.
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>>58770349
I've used IRC since 99, it's definitely harder to use for average folk and the GUI for most IRC clients are confusing for them. There's a reason nobody uses IRC anymore and have moved onto not only better, but easier to use software.

>It's easier for someone to just hop on some irc web client than to install software and get invested in discord.

Discord has a web client as well, ya dipshit. Educate yourself.
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>>58754889
You can't use a computer without ever running proprietary code. It's impossible. Your BIOS is proprietary, your hard drive firmware is proprietary, your router firmware is most likely, unless you use shit drivers your drivers are proprietary, your CPU's microcode is proprietary. Face it, you can never avoid the botnet.
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>>58763751
yeah, but most people can't into CLI or have a VPS
irccloud or whatever is a popular bouncer service, but botnet
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