/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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>>58734506
>>58734509
>>58734539

first for fedora has the best bootup times

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>>58734569

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>>58734584
>systemd

>>58734584
Name one legit reason why the world needs Fedora.

>>58734603
Got it capped on 2 GB on work for reasons unknown.

>>58734628
rip prague :'(

>>58734655
Tips*

I'm using GNU/Linux since 5 years and holy crap, everyday I discover another awesome thing. Today it was less' -p flag.

compare

man tcpdump

to

man tcpdump | less -p EXAMPLES

Enjoy.

>>58734728
that's actually useful, ty

>>58734655
Marketing RHEL.

how the fuck do I maximize/minimize a window with a shortcut in Lubuntu? Please, I feel retarded

Oh, I found debian-6.0.6-amd64-CD-1.iso on a local ftp. Should I try to install it and then update to 8.7.1? I hope 1st CD is enough.

>>58734807
Just realised I wasn't attentive enough. 1st CD and CD with DE should be enough, from what I understood on debian.org

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>>58734807
bruh what are you doing

either do the netinstall to keep downloads to a mimum or sponge the latest dvd install from free wifi jesus christ

>>58734836
Ok, I'll just grab netinstall.

>>58734527
I've been out of the loop, when did fglt get a website?

>>58734868
In the first days it got one.
The /fglt/ site is about a year old.

What's the best music player on GNU/Linux?

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>>58734906
Shot from the very first thread like these.

>>58734728
man pages are searchable though,

 /examples 

does the same thing? Most commands I don't use often, like sox for example, start with a trip to the man pages and a search for some half remembered snippet or sentence.

>>58734914
i though /fglt/ was older

>>58734950
Well, back then /g/ wasn't riddled with Windows users, pcpartpicker and Phonefags and all that crap. /g/ was basically /fglt/ all the way. Friendlyish Linux Thread (good search term for archives) was born when /g/ started turning into crap, eg.
>he fell for the linux meme
>gimp can't even draw a circle
>linux is for pedophiles
etc

>>58734974
>Well, back then /g/ wasn't riddled with Windows users, pcpartpicker and Phonefags and all that crap.
but it was

>>58734980
But back then /g/ told them to fuck off.
Today these thread get ~200 replies.

>>58734974
fglt is the only reason I still visit /g/ to be quiet honest, good thing that it's better now, last months fglt was pure meme satire

>>58734986
>But back then /g/ told them to fuck off.
near never . theres just no desktop threads for shitposters to flock to.

>>58735007
found the 5 months 4chan oldfag

>>58735007
Which is actually a bad thing.

Recently wrote a script that picks a random /wg/ wallpaper and sets it as desktop background.
>mfw the wallpaper was a desktop screenshot

Desktop Threads belong to /g/.

>>58735007
How are desktop thread related to my argument?
Also, we fought pretty hard, but we lost because /g/ doesn't have ay mods and there's always some computer illiterate retard with the only technical skill of buying cool hardware who replies to such threads and then, others join, and others join, [...]

>Use Kubuntu
>want to use XFCE because shit PC
>install Debian
>screen tearing
>install compiz
>cant change window decoration
>interwebs says install gnome tweak tool
>have to install 100+ packages
>still wont work
>interwebs says install emerald
>everything is from 2007-2011 most of links are death
>manage to find site with all packages
>everything should work and do emerald --replace
>"theme engine blabla "mist",
>segmentation fault"
>dont know if that means if that mist wont work or if whole emerald is broken
>doesnt work anyways
>have installed so much shit with every try so some other shit broke
<do I need to install Arch to get everything easily installed from repos?
<or should I try install kwin?

>>58735099
install xubuntu
or arch

>>58735099
rule over the thumb to git gud on loonix:
stick to your distro, fix problems without switching the distro
realize that all distrs are the same in different colours

>>58735113
gahnoo/loonix*

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>>58735128
4u

more at: ^F/Wallpapers

>>58735022
lol that makes me soooo old

>>58735047
is there a board just for A E S T H E T I C s ?

I want to dual boot linux onto my desktop and I have a few questions.

1. Should I make a partition for it on my HDD or SSD? Is the speed difference between HDD and SSD for linux as large as it is for windows?

2. What distro should I grab? I haven't touched linux in a year or two, and back then I used Ubuntu, but I want to know what are some good options nowadays.

3. Are drivers going to be a pain in the ass for me? My CPU and GPU are ayyyyyyymd.

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>>58734527

>>58735144
>^F
>not /
>not using vim keys

>>58735216
Best beginner distro is always Ubuntu, maybe Ubuntu Mate if you don't like Unity or Kubuntu for KDE.

Ubuntu makes installing drivers as easy as clicking a button and that's it.

is that qt browser worth installing?

>>58735337
is it?

>>58735258
Does Ubuntu still have that amazon crap going on right now? I personally like the distro but the amazon integration isn't something I'm a fan of

>>58735359
There was lots of butthurt in the community and now it's disabled by default. Still there, but you need to enable it to get snooped on. Just uninstall it and you're fine.

>>58735359
It still does, however, it's not enabled by default.
Use another spin like Xubuntu or Ubuntu MATE if you want a Ubuntu base/repo with no Amazon BS. Unless you like Unity, then you are screwed.

>>58735359
The Amazon thing comes only with Unity DE. Choose a different DE and don't mind.

>>58735398
soon grep will return additional amazon results and ssh will get facebook auth

mark my words

>>58735437
>grep
not in my gnu

>>58735437
>soon grep will return additional amazon results and ssh will get facebook auth
did you read what you posted?

>>58735437
>ssh will get facebook auth
KEK
>login with your facebook account
holy crap

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>>58735461
me casa su casa

>>58735475
There is absolutely nothing wrong with sharing personal information on the internet.

Whatever handles the internet connections and shit in Ubuntu is absolute dog shit. I have to open 4chan images in another fucking browser now because this dog shit crap fucking shit OS can't handle apparently opening image in a browser anymore

Fucking hilarious

>>58735502
>OS
>Whatever handles the internet connections
>opening image in a browser
Get well soon

>>58735531
Where the fuck do you open images if not in the fucking actual browser? Do you fucking wget the images and then open them in a virtualized OS?

Get necked retard

>>58735556
I feld bad for helping...

>>58735550
>>OS
>>Whatever handles the internet connections
>>opening image in a browser

>Where the fuck do you open images if not in the fucking actual browser?
>Get necked retard
oh boy, here we go.

>>58735502
I bet it was that meddling linus kernel again.

>>58735556
>a) the new, slow 4chan server (install 4chaX)
Nope. Works perfect in Windows 10.

>b) if you're using wireless: your iwlwifi module (change it's parameters, especially 11n_disable)
I don't use wi-fi.

>You
No it's definitely Ubuntu being fucking retarded, since it's not issue on Windows.

I love hoving to use 2 browsers to use a basic webpage. Year of the GNU/Linux desktop ftw.

>>58735583
i bet it was the Poettering.

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>>58735595
>Works perfect in Windows 10.
>>58735595
>it's not issue on Windows.

>>58735595
time to go back I'd say, right

>>58735632
Yes. I have never had this kind of Internet issues with Windows with regards to networking.
>>58735658
I cba. to reinstall.

>>58735454

user@botnet $ dmesg -T | grep intel

Intel engineers HATE him, clocks at 3.2 ghz overclocks at 5, click to find out the $5 trick

12 Sexy Celebs who're actually ... shitwebsite.clickbaitdomain

Amazon Store:
Intel Core i5 6500 3.20 GHz Quad Core @ $199

Intel BX80677I57500 7th Gen Core... @ $201.99

GREP: "intel"
[Thu Jan 26 14:10:39 2017] perf_event_intel: PEBS disabled due to CPU errata, please upgrade microcode
[Thu Jan 26 14:10:40 2017] intel_idle: MWAIT substates: 0x21120
[Thu Jan 26 14:10:40 2017] intel_idle: v0.4 model 0x2A
[Thu Jan 26 14:10:40 2017] intel_idle: lapic_timer_reliable_states 0xffffffff
[Thu Jan 26 14:10:41 2017] fb: switching to inteldrmfb from VESA VGA
[Thu Jan 26 14:10:41 2017] fbcon: inteldrmfb (fb0) is primary device
[Thu Jan 26 14:10:41 2017] i915 0000:00:02.0: fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
[Thu Jan 26 14:11:01 2017] intel_rapl: Found RAPL domain package
[Thu Jan 26 14:11:01 2017] intel_rapl: Found RAPL domain core
[Thu Jan 26 14:11:01 2017] intel_rapl: Found RAPL domain uncore
[Mon Jan 30 02:13:51 2017] intel_pstate CPU 1 exiting
[Mon Jan 30 02:13:51 2017] intel_pstate CPU 2 exiting
[Mon Jan 30 02:13:51 2017] intel_pstate CPU 3 exiting
[Mon Jan 30 02:13:51 2017] intel_pstate CPU 4 exiting
[Mon Jan 30 02:13:51 2017] intel_pstate CPU 5 exiting
[Mon Jan 30 02:13:51 2017] intel_pstate CPU 6 exiting
[Mon Jan 30 02:13:51 2017] intel_pstate CPU 7 exiting

What loonix should I install in my mum's laptop? Something relatively lightweight. I've been using Antergos in mine for a while and it just werks, until it doesn't anymore that is.
I was thinking of sticking to the same distro, since I'm used to it, but perhaps Ubuntu would be easier on her? All it would be used for would be browsing the net, so, the backend stuff wouldn't really matter, right? An Arch install, if not pacman -Syyu 'd, would be stable, wouldn't it?

>>58735754
I don't think it'll matter much.

> An Arch install, if not pacman -Syyu 'd, would be stable, wouldn't it?
If you don't update? Yea, generally.

There is a small risk in not deploying security fixes to known problems. Not like it's a huge risk, but you never know.

[But still a smaller risk than pacman automatically breaking the system, I guess.]

>>58735754
>What loonix should I install in my mum's laptop?
Do you hate you mom? Arch
Do you like your mom? Ubuntu
Do you love your mom? Debian
Is your mom HOT? Trisquel

>>58735854
is there an incest option?
also paradigm shift, my mom is dead?

>>58735892
crunchbang

Installed Ubuntu 16.04.10 LTS yesterday to dualboot with Windows 10. After I turn my laptop on and boot into Ubuntu and enter my password, either the top quarter of my screen distorts or I log in just fine, but both results end up in me staring at a black screen with only my cursor and nothing happening. What's going on?

>>58735794
Alright, that's what I thought. Thanks Anon.

>>58735854
Does Debian really have a purpose other than freedom? Free drivers kind of spook me tbhwyfamalam.

>>58735904
well it's basically the same as ubuntu, but without cannonical dick up your ass

>>58735892
>also paradigm shift, my mom is dead?
> final fantasy terminology
Turn her into clothes and wear her for additional power levels.

I guess you go and develop Gentoo with that, or something. Or just jump from high places after strangers which have special forces or parachute equipment right the moment you see them, as you are. Or something.

>>58735904
It depends. Debian stable is IMHO one of the defacto server distros due to it's stability. Debian testing is for desktop use (Ubuntu is using a frozen and patched Debian unstable, so basically what Debian testing is). Unstable aims for developers and bleeding edge fanatics.

The cool thing with Debian is, you get a completly free system out of the box and you only install nonfree stuff you really need. Debian's kernel is deblobbed too (just like Linux-libre), and again, you only add modules you really need.

Over the thumb, you end up with a faster, more lightweight system (which also feels better).

my 2 cents

>>58735901
make sure you are using the proprietary drivers. What sort of GPU do you have?

>>58736006
is debian the only distro which deblobbs it's kernel themselve?

>>58736035
AMD - it's a mobile one. When I initially installed and started setting up things, it was fine. This problem just started after I shit down my PC one day and booted it back up

what does /fglt/ think about Devuan?
legit choice or butthurt autism?
is "init freedom" important?
serious question, folks

>>58736073
Do you mean Debian?
It's a good distro, but don't care about what autists think about what distro you should use - use what you like and is best for you.

>>58736073
Some things:
- "init freedom" isn't a thing as in free as in freedom, the "problem" is that people force systemd in ways so programs hard-depend on systemds existence, which results in, well, less choice of you init system, but it doesn't make systemd itself nonfree
- it's both, legit and autism. Debian got a voting about including systemd and pro-systemd people won, so the other half created Devuan
on the other hand Devuan allows you to have a Debian system with whatever init you want

>>58736112
He means Devuan. https://devuan.org

>>58736129
Welp, my bad

>>58736123
>people
Red Hat?

>>58736123
nobody is forcing systemd
systemd is the better solution compared to the clusterfuck we had before
the only problem is that systemd didn't stop just being a simple init system

>>58736156
>the only problem is that systemd didn't stop just being a simple init system
what does it do wrong?

When should I use bash profile for alias/functions instead of a bash script in /usr/bin?

Other than /usr/bin being 'global'?

>>58736073
I don't mind alternative approaches.

Personally I'm just going with systemd. It's not hostile in license, it's not that bad an idea, it works fine from a sysadmin point of view. So, yea.

Not saying nothing good will ever come from Devuan, but right now, it's kinda like all FP programming languages. For the most part, they distinctively lack that "being better" in actuality, even if I theoretically can see the point.

>>58736156
No one likes you, Lennart!

>>58736177
- have a script that takes a screenshot and optimizes the png? >>> ~/bin/script
- have a function that changes all letters to lowercase? >>> ~/.bash_functions or ~/.bashrc

You need to decide yourself if a script is something you may want to call in the background, from a hotkey, through a pipe, etc, or if it's only useful in your interactive terminal session.

If no clue: >>> ~/bin/script

My Ubuntu's fucked, so I tried disk repair and it didn't work, any help is greatly appreciated: http://paste2.org/jC3cIA2t

>>58736172
The main developer is not likeable.

And systemd replaces not just /bin/init but also the whole stuff people usually jammed into initrd and so on.
Things that are ultimately more important to a system than you'd immediately think - not only dhcp clients, but also ntp daemons fetching the time and all that. And udev and the other things that dynamically manage devices in /dev and their hotplugging during a running system and so on.

>>58736230
stop the bully

>>58736230
PS: That said, *a lot* of distro maintainers and users also like systemd.

It's fast, has good diagnostics, you know how and where you have most of the tools you need to start and run the system including services, there is no odd jump from what some devs assume is done in an initrd and what is then done in the main init, and so on.

I find it a good idea myself, and I think it's fairly evident that it actually works in a lot of situations for a lot of distros.

Oops, I posted this in the old thread accidentally. Reposting here:

Just started using Zim and I really like it. Since it just makes "notebooks" out of folders and .txt files, it should be easy to reach on all my computers, right? Is there a way I could have a Zim notebook on my GNU+Linux computer, upload it to a cloud like Dropbox or something, and then have it automatically update the cloud version as I update it on my GNU+Linux computer? and also have the notebook on my GNU+Linux computer check the cloud version for any differences and update accordingly? Is this still too advanced a task for a retard such as myself? Thanks in advance

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>>58736239
this

>Much of the Open Source community tries to advertise the community as one happy place to the outside. Where contributions are valued only by their technical quality, and everybody meets at conferences for beers.

>Well, it is not like that. It's quite a sick place to be in.

>I don't usually talk about this too much, and hence I figure that people are really not aware of this, but yes, the Open Source community is full of assholes, and I probably more than most others am one of their most favourite targets. I get hate mail for hacking on Open Source. People have started multiple "petitions" on petition web sites, asking me to stop working (google for it). Recently, people started collecting Bitcoins to hire a hitman for me (this really happened!). Just the other day, some idiot posted a "song" on youtube, a creepy work, filled with expletives about me and suggestions of violence. People post websites about boycotting my projects, containing pretty personal attacks. On IRC, people /msg me sometimes, with nasty messages, and references to artwork in 4chan style. And there's more. A lot more.
>https://plus.google.com/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/J2TZrTvu7vd

>>58736239
Heh. Okay, he is likeable in the sense that he's still doing something nice for us, and I guess you get a bit edgy if people constantly jab at everything you do.

But still, on many days he could have won the crown of the edgelord had he fought on this website.

>>58736282
>open source
>google it
>has a google plus account

I'm sure there are holes in his arguments but i read this post about systemd the other day and it seems pretty convincing. particularly this part

>Some workloads – heavy duty application servers, for example – have really sophisticated process management needs. Processes can fall over at any time, and you need other processes to monitor the work processes and restart them as necessary if they fail. If any process depends on the failed process, it too may need to be stopped and so on. It’s perfectly legitimate to write a monitor program that tracks all these dependencies and takes appropriate action. BUT IT SHOULD NOT. REPLACE. INIT. Write the program, make it subordinate to init, and then add it to init’s startup script. Init’s job is to serve as the primordial process, starting all the other processes needed to get a functioning system, and then lock up at the end of the night. If you add all this other crap to init – all this complexity and cleverness – and some part of that breaks, causing init to dump core or something, guess what you have? An unstable system. Remember, if init dies, everything dies.

http://patrickbrianmooney.tumblr.com/post/149311323966/systemd-more-like-shit-stemd

>>58736339
well let him?, linus is on google+ too
no need to bully

>>58736354
>caring about linus

>>58735680
Fuck that coreutils will just call firefox shitwebsite.clickbaitdomain for you. There's no reason to rerquire the user to actualy click.

Pottering did nothing wrong. He's developing Free Software. He's the developer and if he wants to implement bonzy buddy, it's his right to do so, no need to hate him for that. Blame people who force you to use programs in your distribution or people who think it's a good idea to hard depend on specific programs.

>>58736404
it's not that easy anon, an init system is a pretty vital part of an operating system, just like the kernel

>>58736415
Seems like most distro maintainers decided this was the better way to get that pretty vital part of the operating system covered, against all competing alternatives and -usually- the option of only partly using it.

So what's actually bad about systemd, other than *I'm feeling forced to use it*?
Does it have any technical downsides you dislike?

>>58736352
There's nothing keeping you from changing your unit files to run that monitor program you wanted to write and let it handle things involving those processes.

>>58736489
>I'm feeling forced to use it
it's not like that there aren't distros without systemd, why do you feel "forced"?

>>58736489
http://www.ocsmag.com/2016/10/19/systemd-progress-through-complexity/

systemd
gnu vs linux
open sauce vs freedums
x11 vs wayland
bash vs zsh
wm vs de
cli vs gui
you vs me
will the cycle ever end?

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>>58736578

>>58736578
If you're autistic enough it's already ever.
The only problem is the rest of the world refuses to change for the better with the claim that "lol they're all just as good" accompanied by that xkcd comic about competing standards.

>>58736578
>gnu vs linux
That's how I'll call it from now on.

>>58736624
NO! Computers, programs, bits aren't humans. Never insult or blame any tech. Tech is a holy entity. GNU works perfectly fine together with Linux.

I don't even find my post anymore. How to unmap arrow keys in Vim?

>>58736638
my nigga
>guy fucks something up
>blames os
REx10

>>58736624
gnu vs GUN/linux*

Hello. Is there updated graphics card drivers for Nvidia 980ti, that has Vulkan support? Xorg one doesn't have, the driver (360 something, default in Ubanto) doesn't have.

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3 months into switching from windows to ubuntu on my laptop and it started to become slow. start up takes a long time and it shows a black screen first with some list of commands (?) where i see the word "blocks" a lot.

>>58736750
https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/112992/en-us

Has anyoen tried these drivers and how are they with game like CS and DOTA2?

Ubuntu guy with screen problems here - I've dungoofed.

I had issues with Ubuntu, so I decided to uninstall and reinstall. First, I jumped into Windows and manually deleted the partition for Ubuntu in Disk Management, which left nothing but a basic version of grub - not everything went. Next, I booted up a live version of ubuntu and I installed Ubuntu again in order for it to be detected on OS-uninstaller - figured this would cleanly remove everything. Next, I rebooted to see if grub was still there - it was. I then rebooted into live again and used gparted to delete any fat32 partitions and anything related to Ubuntu, while trying to keep windows partitions. I finished that, and rebooted - no bash, no windows - nothing. Literally just some intel shit, so I figured I deleted The MBR. Now I'm trying to install Ubuntu again so I at least have an OS, but when I go to boot options on my BIOS, all I can see under UEFI is Onboard IPv4 & IPv6 - no legacy. I can't even see my USB with Ubuntu on it, and I can't boot to it. What the fuck do I do?

if I will install archliunx, what's the chance that it will fuck up my xorg tomorrow?

I'm just passing by to say that the Archlinux wiki is a godsend, and I don't even use Arch. It's the only place that actually told me how to fix the mojibake with openjdk 8, and that was driving me nuts.

Impressive stuff.

>>58736404

No one is forcing you, you retard. Look up the definition of force.

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I'm in deep shit and need your help.

My laptops screen broke (doesn't work while the laptop is switched on) and I have to rescue some important data tonight before I fix anything.


I dual boot Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu Mate. Normally I press the down arrow twice and hit Enter to boot windows, or just hit Enter (alternatively leave it for 10 seconds) to boot ubuntu. I have to somehow log in to either and get an external HDMI TV set hooked and working.

I can't fucking log in to windows even if I do the exact sequence: (down arrow twice, Enter, Space, {password}, Enter. Then windows should detect a HDMI monitor automatically.

Can someone help me get a vague idea for orientation e.g. how souls the caps lock key behave or how to login to Ubuntu (don't remember if I had to press tab or anything to get to the password box).

I'm fucking desperate, help me out please

>>58737151
I'm pretty sure when I used to use Ubuntu I just wrote the password, the field would automatically activete and shit

but it takes you two tests to try if you need to TAB or not so just get going with the test!

I'd never change to Linux, why should i? To be extraordinary? A crack? Why should i make my life more complicated then it is already?!

>>58736578
>x11 vs wayland
Mir looks like the better choice desu.

>>58737283

Why? Because you can feel like a hipster? Are you actively writing software that uses one of those technologies? Are you in-depth familiar with it regardless? Something is telling me you aren't.

>>58734527
Imagine me as someone who has never used anything other than Windows in their life, but wants to move to Linux, mainly for the higher security (for reasons I won't explain)
where do I go to learn from the absolute beginning?

>>58737151
I'm not sure but you always can do the following

>at login screen (that you can't see)
>Ctrl + Alt + F1 to get into the tty
>login RET
>password RET
and you're at the commandline.
since it's independent from X the external HDMI screen should just double whatever you have at the main screen

>>58737304
Yes.

>>58737312
Ubuntu, click around till you feels save, then learn the cli, then choose a distro that suits your needs, then enjoy heavenly computing.

>>58737312
>mainly for the higher security (for reasons I won't explain)
Considering you are posting this on 4chan through Google Captcha from your own IP address you don't have much need for high sec.

>>58737151
> checkmate in 2
I don't think so, man. Bg6 e2e1=Q Bh5# does it, but since black can just play Kf3 it's not forced.

>>58737365
>a post not explicitly stating a crime is incriminating evidence presentable in court
I have a dynamic IP, anyway.
>>58737346
thanks desu

>>58737401
Shit, I mean black can play Kg4.

>>58734913
Deadbeef is my jam

>>58737406
ISP can tell who was the owner of X IP at Y time.

>>58734792
With openbox you can do alt-space for the window's menu, then x to maximize. Can't remember what minimize is. You can also use the arrows or the mouse to select from the menu.

>>58735047
Truth. The wallpaper is one not even all that important when it comes to the bigger picture of rice. It doesn't make any sense that desktop threads go on /wg/ instead of /g/. How can we appeal the ban? I really miss them.

Anyone else here running NixOS? I had trouble getting qutebrowser to work. The error was a bit cryptic as well.

>>58735550
No one else is having your problem. Calm down and we can try to help.

>>58736832
I had something similar a while ago. How old is your hard drive?

>>58737314
>>58737252
Guys... whatever I do the Caps Lock key does not light up (although the keyboard LEDs work)


If the SSD is fucked, so am I....

>>58737401
>>58737413
Ne5#.

Help me out, senpai...

>>58734527
>http://fglt.nl/
https://github.com/Tyil/fglt/pull/2

>>58737730
keyboard LEDs are powered independently by the power from usb, and they will work for as long as long as the controller gets power from the psu.

Caps Lock not lighting up may be sign of a badonkadonked machine.

For me checking whether caps lights up was the quickest method of finding out whether Windows was frozen or just busy.

>>58737314
>it's independent from X
Not really. It's X who handles the ctl+alt+f1. So if X is really blocked you can't access the consoles.

>>58738178
duly noted

Is there a way to make MPV save screenshots of x file to folder named according to the video file?

Now they're all in home and named mpvXXXXX and no automated folders et.c

What's the difference between Manjaro and Antergos? Since they're based on Archlinux are they going to drop i686 support?

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>>58738512
>Is there a way to make MPV save screenshots of x file to folder named according to the video file?
I believe this is the default behaviour, and documentation of mpv confirms it.

are your files located on a network share?

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>>58738636
Some of them are on main SSD (where OS is installed, some in other drives) and it just dumps them all to home with mpvXXXXX filenaming, no separete folders for separate vidoes

I have the mc3man whatever MPV

I have two ethernet cards in my computer. One is connected to the WAN and I use the default gateway assigned from my ISP. The other is connected to an old XP laptop that I want to access only from my desktop computer (because the laptop is insecure and I don't want it facing the WAN). The laptop itself has two ethernet cards, one of which is connected to the computer and the other to an outdated piece of technology that interfaces with it over ethernet.

So the problem here is that the old piece of equipment has a hardcoded default gateway (10.14.0.1) that the XP laptop broadcasts to, while my desktop has a 'hardcoded' default gateway assigned from my ISP (171.143.XXX.1). Since I can't have two default gateways on the computers I don't know how I can connect my desktop to my laptop without interrupting the existing network connections.

My desktop is running CentOS and NetworkManager. I know you can use iproute2 to create multiple gateways but that won't really help me with the XP machine (that does some weird round-robin switching between gateways).

What I'd like to do is to route data from the laptop gateway to the desktop ISP-assigned gateway but I have no idea how to do this in NetworkManager.

Should I use yaourt? Arch wiki implies it's shit

>>58735109
>>58735099
I think I try Manjaro xfce.
Debian help/guides are all like 10 year old and not good for newbie.
Are repos much diferent from Arch? F spending 2h+2h installing arch for same result.

>>58737730
> Ne5#

Dammit, I had copied the board down wrong.

>>58738891
just install Arch linux.

>>58737639
laptop is from 2009. admittedly when i formatted it once and installed windows 10, it took like 5 minutes just to open the downloads folder which barely had 30 files - so it might be because of the hard drive.

I think DOTA 2 sets my refresh rate to 60hz in Ubuntu. The FPS is at 140+ but it looks slow/laggy as hell.

Anyone with similar issue?

>switch to windows for muh gamez
>don't click any shady links, browsing trusted websites only
>get 0 day driveby exploited
Well, gaming isn't worth this shit. Back to comfy gnu/linux.

>>58739316
I've heard that you can play with VM+GPU passthrough fine? True or false?

>>58739345
true.

>>58739345
If you have the hardware for it it's rather easy.

Developers of Gnome Boxes (kvm/qemu gui manager for fedora) want to make hardware passthrough a "point and click" adventure in the next release.

Is there a way to view pictures inside a zip archive with cli tools?

>>58739408
What else, other than 2 GPUs, does it require?

>>58739465
a compatible chipset.

>>58739471
Does Skylake werk?

>>58739408
so, the same shit virt-manager already does ?

>>58739465
IOMMU support by your chipset and cpu (e.g. like every amd cpu and board has since 2006 unlike jewtel)

>>58739416
mupdf

>>58739505
a chipset, not your fucking cpu

>>58739537
Motherboard?

>>58739537
the cpu needs to support it too.

>>58736282
I remember a video of him and his buddies openly laughing at some hobbyists giving a presentation. And then he cries when people give him the same treatment.

That hypocritical douche can suck on a loaded gun.

>hacking on Open Source

Just because you're a hack, doesn't mean what you're doing is "hacking"

>>58739557
CHIPSET

>>58739576
What is a set of chips??

>>58739594
no, you can't play in a vm

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Going all in for a Manjaro Cinnamon 16.0.3 installation on my secondary solid state drive, 232 GB usable.

Apparently according to an anon from an older /fglt/ from the other day / and /swap are I'll pretty much need.

So what, like, will /home and /boot not matter much or at all for my installation and are they pretty much obsolete nowadays?

I understand /boot is what calls/tells your Linux/Distribution to "boot" or can someone break that down for me so I can get and understand it simpler words and terms? Same for /home someone please break it down for me as well as my only understanding and grasp of /home would be were all your shit goes, media and downloads etc.. I don't know what else /home is for/serves purpose/s as/for.

>>58739661
Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard

>>58739661
>>58739744
also put /home on a separate partition.

>>58739661
I don't have boot or home either
This works fine in my opinion

>clueless faggot with apparent ban on all search engines
>"bottom of the barell" distribution
>obligatory animeshit picture
How fitting

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>>58739823

Context?

>>58735099
>>Use Kubuntu
>>want to use XFCE because shit PC
>>install Debian

Uhhh isn't Kubuntu based on d....

Why the fuck didn't you just install XFCE. Via the correct meta/transitional package?

>>58739661
boot is really only necessary if you're encrypting the drive, or running on uefi. Seperate home is good for reinstalls.

I want a hobby distro. Gentoo or arch for maximum autism?

>>58740029
Arch for ecology.

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>>58740029
Gentoo

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What is the most fringe distro version you have used

>>58735406
>Unless you like Unity, then you are screwed.
No one likes unity.

>>58739972
Probably more work than installing debian
Does it remove all kShit that I never use? And I like to have one working installation if I just want do something.
And I cant use cool Debian wallpapaper/whisker menu icon on Kubuntu. -.-

>>58740086
>a fork of a fork influenced a distro that would later be known as 'Gentoo'
Ebin

>>58735574
I honestly don't think this is going to go anywhere.
No one is stupid enough to take that bait.

May god have mercy on his soul if it's not bait.

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>>58740086
>>58740211
I wonder how many of these areu pdated to 2015-2017

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>>58740251
fcuking hell lads

Is there a more in-depth Arch installation guide? I can't seem to figure out how to install a bootloader.

I'm trying to learn myself a linux by doing a more autistic one in a VM. I like LFS but it takes so fucking long to compile everything, and arch seems like a decent midway point between Gentoo and Debian

>>58740268
The Arch guide is more split up between the various wiki pages than it used to be.
Read the GRUB article:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=GRUB

>>58740214
>

>>58734527
Looking for a nice distro with good looks, don't say KDE or Arch because I hate both.

I went with budgie ubuntu, how did I do?

whenever I use wmctrl to change focus to a sticky window

wmctrl -R windowname

it un-sticks the window and moves it to my first desktop
if I add

wmctrl -R windowname -t -1

(what

wmctrl -l

lists it as when sticky) or -2 or 0 or anything else purported to work, it doesn't make or keep the window sticky
what do

>>58734913
Cmus is suprisingly good

>>58734913
ncmpcpp+mpd

>>58740371
xdotool!

I'm looking to give Linux a try. I'm curious about what OS I should install...I'm familiar-ish with the Linux community - I know systemd is cancer, as is gtk...so I'm looking for a QT (lxqt and kde are both fine), OpenRC utilizing OS. What should I install?


>inb4 install Gentoo

No thanks I dont have several hours of free time to compile kernels while watching anime.

>>58740398
Ubuntu It's always install Ubuntu first play with

>>58740398
If you want OpenRC your other choice is Manjaro. I used it for a year, will never recommend it to anyone. Very happy with Gentoo right now

>>58737023
>First, I jumped into Windows and manually deleted the partition for Ubuntu in Disk Management, which left nothing but a basic version of grub - not everything went.

You left the /boot partition intact.

>I then rebooted into live again and used gparted to delete any fat32 partitions and anything related to Ubuntu, while trying to keep windows partitions.

Those fat32/NTFS partitions you deleted were probably windows partitions.

>rebooted - no bash, no windows - nothing.
> I can't even see my USB with Ubuntu on it, and I can't boot to it.

Looks like you delete the live USB partitions too.

If you're lucky you still have windows partitions left. Mark them as active/boot/primary.

>>58737023
Goddamn you fucked up.

>>58740398
pls stop falling for memes before you even try something

>>58737151
Does the laptop have a shortcut to activate external displays?

For example hold down the Fn key then press a function key(F1-12).

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>>58740251
>>58740267
God I wish whoever made this would update it

>>58737406
>>a post not explicitly stating a crime is incriminating evidence presentable in court

Uhhh security does not imply security from the law...

Security is not just for criminals. In fact in most cases it is to protect against criminals.

So my 58 year old aunt just got her first PC. It's one of those Dell Dimension 2400's.

It has Windows XP on it right now. I plan to get rid of it, and change it to the following

Devuan GNU/Linux, with Slim as the login manager, and LILO as the boot manager. It will be using IceWM (along with the dock)

I imagine that she will be listening to music, so I'll need to find her a lightweight music playing application. I think I'll use Audacious or LXMusic. Her web browser will either be Midori or Pale Moon, (I may buy her a stick of ram, 2400 only comes with 256MB...)

Any suggestions to this setup? I'd like to keep things simple and *very* lightweight. She'll only use it to listen to music / bible study (she's religious)

And yes, I plan on keeping her away from Facebook. I'll be sure to bookmark stallman.org/facebook.html and other GNU links for her to read in her spare time.

Among other things, I plan to set her up with an XMPP, teach her how to use IRC, and teach her how to use FossaMail. I will probably make her email provider OpenMailBox or Tutanota/Protonmail for webmail.

>>58740502
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Debian_family_tree_11-06.png

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Redhat_family_tree_11-06.png

etc. you can find bunch of them in Wikip.

>>58740514
>2400 only comes with 256MB
You may as well just stick to TinyXP or something, modern linux distributions arent the RAM sippers they used to be

>>58740463
I could understand the argument that maybe systemd isn't that bad, and it's just poetterings ego that gives systemd a bad rep.

But you can't seriously tell me GTK isn't cancer. The complaints I hear about gnome remind me of the complaints about Windows 10 (aside from muh privacy). "Made to look pretty, lose functionality, new way of doing things breaks anyways, disunified UI, not as customizable as I want it to be..."

>>58740386
thanks, worked like a charm, though for some reason I had to call a script instead of calling it from my openbox rc.xml
easier to extend in the future to swap focus back I guess

>>58740535
I'd rather not let my aunt get infected with some Pirate Bay cruft.

In my experiments with my system I use only 124~MB of ram running just IceWM and all the security daemons on my system. I think the box will be able to handle it provided I give it a decent sized swap partition, and at a later date, place in an SSD.

If not, I'll trim it down. and if worse comes to worse, I'll install Puppy.

Stallman is pretty smart I just thought he was a meme because of you guys

>>58740474
>>58737314
this
if you can get to ubuntu through grub or whatever, ctrl-alt-f3, then username, enter, pass, enter, xrandr --output HDM1 --auto, enter

>>58740514
lmao. Just get her a Chromebook

>>58738817
Just use a static address with no gateway listed for the laptop to outdated shit interface.

As long as you use separate subnets and the outdated equipment does not have to pass traffic you should be fine.

I'm an idiot
>>58740599
>>58737151

>>58740514
Don't even consider browsing with 256mb of ram. Even 512 won't be a smooth experience

>>58740622
Not an option. She's quite poor and she was given this machine. I'm going to try to make it work / be accessible for her.

On another note, I'd rather not let my aunt's first interaction with a computer be with Google.

>>58739594
Not a set of chips, a chip that is set.

Also a set of chips.

>>58740514
>She'll only use it to listen to music / bible study
>I'd like to keep things simple and *very* lightweight
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>>58740673
fuckign kej

>>58739661
/boot can be placed on / or located on a separate partition.

Same with /home you can give it its own partition or just put it on /

It all depends on how you want to manage space. Or how you deal with things in the even that something goes wrong... or you need to/want to migrate to another distro or perform a destructive upgrade.

>>58740194
>And I like to have one working installation if I just want do something.

You can have one installation with multiple DE's. You just pick your DE at logon.

>>58740730

How would one put /boot on / though?

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>>58740690
>networking

I'm a noobshit and i'm experiencing a lot of problems with debian mate, kde, xfce. Everything was working fine with gnome instead. Why? Are the nondefault-DEs less supported/neglected? Should i avoid using a distro with a non-default DE?

>>58740690
>more simple than necessary
what does this mean in use/practical use

>>58740757
>How would one put /boot on / though?
?

>>58740757
automatically with fstab entry? don't really get the question/issue

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>use lilo instead of grub
>use LibreSLL instead of OpenSSL
>use sysvinit instead of systemd
>use busybox instead of GNU coreutils
>use musl libc instead of glibc
>use Hurd instead of Linux
How can I get more hipster?

>>58735099
why not just install xfce4 and pick your DE at login?
or install xubuntu

>>58740086
Within the Gentoo Ecosystem...

GentooX

There is no fucking way it was 15 years ago... I guess it was. Damn

It ran on hardware that is no longer manufactured, and required you to by pass the manufacturers signature checks to run non approved code.

Paved the way for what is now known as Kodi(previously XBMC).

XBMC was actually built with a stolen SDK, they went in later are rewrote all the code that was produced with the stolen dev kit.

>>58734527
what's an alternative to xf86-video-intel?

using manjaro on a macbook pro 9,2 and the RuneScape NXT client won't load.

and idk what to do with the intel source driver.

>>58740886
>Paved the way for what is now known as Kodi(previously XBMC).
>XBMC was actually built with a stolen SDK, they went in later are rewrote all the code that was produced with the stolen dev kit.
Holy lel

>>58735754
xubuntu

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>>58740915
>I don't know what to do with the intel source driver
Read the README.

>>58740809

"fstab" what is that and how do I that or create that entry thing?

>>58740267
I'm familiar with more of those than any sane person should be.

>>58740959
I did but, I'm not sure if I should use autogen with the mesa options or autogen with xorg options.

Also I don't have mesa in ~/ that I can find

>>58740984
What was the worst?

>>58740996
Edit: Even though mesa is installed.

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Hey folks, just wanted to drop by to ask a question.

I dualboot Debian with Windows, Debian having the much larger partition where I do my work and have all my personal files, and Windows being a small partition where basically I just have a few games that are incompatible on Linux. Now, obviously, Windows was installed first and then Debian, to not have any problems with the bootloader.

My question is: If I want to uninstall Debian and wipe its partition so I can assign a bit more space to Windows (right now it's uncomfortably tight), and then reinstall Debian, will I have any problems at all with GRUB or booting that I should take precautions for, or should everything just werk(TM)?

Thank you very much for your time

>>58740915
You delete them and use the plain modesetting driver

>>58741088
Everything should just werk(TM) if you don't fuck up resizing the filesystem.

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>>58740936
Calm down, they never stole any code.

They just wrote and distributed code that could only be compiled with a stolen compiler.

>>58741088
>Wipe the debian partiton
You will kill GRUB. It may remain in the MBR (the first 440 bytes), but it will not function


In the future, consider putting windows at the beginning of the drive, or placing /home on its own partition.

>>58741132
He's not moving Windows to the back of the drive, He's deleting the Debian partition only to reinstall it again.

>>58741124
Tried that as well. Macbook didn't want to boot, do I just need to remove xf86-video-intel or do I need more packages removed?

>>58741160
So is he going to resize the widnows partition or create a third partition with that space he made?

>>58741160
Also, if he installs debian again he will also reinstall GRUB.

There is no reason why that new GRUB wouldn't be able to find Windows.

>>58741160
>>58741255
>>58741225
>>58741132
This is my partition situation:

SSD:
sda1 - ntfs Recovery (Windows) 450 MB
sda2 - fat32 /boot/efi (Shared with Windows) 100 MB
sda3 - microsoft reserved partition 16 MB
sda4 - ntfs Basic Data Partition (windows) 30 GB
sda5 - LVM2 PV for Debian, 80 GB. In that LVM resides /home with 50 GB and / with 30 GB

HDD:
sdb1 - Microsoft Reserved partition 16 MB
sdb2 - Basic Data partition (Windows) 250 GB
unallocated 1 mb
sdb3 - ext4 /data Debian partition 680 GB

So given this information, am I safe in simply nuking the Debian partitions (obviously backing up my /data and /home), boot to Windows without GRUB (that would be possible just like Linux was never installed, right?), have Windows absorb a bit of the Unallocated space, and then reinstall Debian on the empty space, right?

Or am I misunderstanding something?

>>58740983
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fstab
just read your original post, look at man hier. basically, boot holds a compressed version of your kernel and initial ram, home holds user files in /home/username (e.g. your personal config files, music/downloads/documents, etc.). I would definitely recommend a separate /home for facility of mounting your files on other os's. I also personally would recommend just installing arch. I don't really lurk these threads so maybe this is overly aggressive and will start a flame war, but I felt like working/thinking through the installation process helped me understand better what I wanted of/on/from my machine, and I was swapping off of manjaro at the time

>>58741272
I'm sure something will go tragically wrong.

>>58741290
Why?

>>58741003
Either Knoppix(it was entirely in German at the time) with all German documentation. I can't speak or read a word of German. Or Lindows, which was a clone of the windows XP GUI skinned on top of KDE I think.

Knoppix was actually great but seriously the flavor of it I was using/started out on was completely in German. Still not sure how I manage to navigate/use it at all.

>>58740398
kubuntu for KDE if your machine is fairly competent.
xubuntu if your machine is slow.

you'll have plenty of time to fuck around later.
Also: make /home a separate partition. You'll thank me later. And install Synaptic for a package manager (this is just personal preference).

>>58740983

Anyone?

>>58734527

>Try to use a search engine that respects your privacy such as qwant, searx, ixquick or startpage.

>The gahnoo febora tippers have gotten so bad they don't even list duck duck go anymore
What kind of tinfoil is this?

>>58741324
>>58741283
?

>>58741297
Why would anything ever work like one assumes it to work

>>58741324

nvm. rip..

>>58741304
Haha, i fucking remember my friend using Knoppix too and it was in German.

Why tho? Was it something special or?

>>58741297
Nothing will go wrong. If you delete Debian it'll be like you installed windows before Debian. Except your bootloader will be fucked so you have to install Debian in order to boot Windows.

>>58741374
Gotcha, thanks man

>>58740533
thank you

Who here /swayland/ ?

>>58741314
>make /home a separate partition.

>And install Synaptic for a package manager

Both excellent recommendations.

>kubuntu for KDE

BLOATED

>>58740824
>budybox
out of sincere curiosity
why?

>>58741363
It was just a really good live distro. Might have been the only live distro at the time.

Was not to bad after you figured out how to install it to a hard drive either. Assuming you somehow stumbled through the german documentation and managed to install it.

>>58741314
Add noexec,nodev,nosuid to your home directory thank me later

>>58740757
If I understand correctly you have a boot partition but you don't want it?

Mount the partition on /mnt, copy everything from /mnt to /boot, and reinstall grub.

>mount /dev/<bootpartition> /mnt
>cp -Rvt /boot /mnt/*
>grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
>grub-install /dev/sda
>umount /mnt

That should do the trick.
Also remove "/dev/<bootpartition> /boot ext4 defaults 0 1" line from your fstab or you won't be able to boot.

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>>58741304
>Even Knoppix splintered to hell and back
man this gnulinux world is wild

>>58741519
Damn Small Linux/Puppy is still pretty useful.

And not everything on that chart is a break away from the main distro. For example KnoppMyth was just Knoppix with MythTV preinstalled/configured. It's dead now but it was never meant to replace or even break too far away from the main project/code.

Also Backtrack has changed to Kali, and I think it's Ubuntu based now.

>>58741397
sway is the greatest name ever desu. The wm itself is getting there, I think it'll be quite usable this year

>>58741658
Still waiting on firefox here

how do I enable more than one screen/desktop on antergos/arch?

I used to have 4 screens on ubuntu that I could switch between on 1 monitor

I've read this, which didn't help
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/multihead

searching this shit is apparently tough

>>58741616
Backtrack was actually build around KNOPPIX, Kali is Debian based.

How do I fix the audio on my GPU Passthrough VM?

I tried almost everything I found and nothing seems to make it work. How hard is it to get fucking sound on my gaymens?

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So, what's the upside to using linux for day-to-day tasks? I was thinking about using linux for word processing, general browsing, gimp and programming. Would it be better and more "comfy" then just using windows or would it not really make a difference?

Well, it runs everything you want, but better. Updating and installing software is easier, and the system is faster.

It's pretty subjective, if you are happy with how Windows performs and don't care about the botnet and practices, you can keep using it.

>>58742615

Meant to quote >>58742570

>>58742498
What DE are you using?

Just add a few more workspaces and a tray/panel item&hotkeys to switch between them.

>>58742570
The applications running on the OS will run ~the same.

Linux usually boots a little faster and keeping everything installed up-to-date is easier. They aren't pulling Microsofts on you and updating intrusively for half an hour or pre-load Windows 11 and then bombard you with nag screens that you MUST CERTAINLY WANT TO UPGRADE ONLY ONE YEAR FREE or such.
[Although some updates sure may change UI things at time.]

Could be more "comfy" if you prefer a tiling wm or any other Linux WM which do have features you can't reasonably get on Windows.

If you care about any thing in more detail (say, what encryption algorithm you use with what key on your encrypted drive) or any other random concern, Linux is also more likely to let you do that.

And generally your distro probably isn't trying to be hostile to you or sell you shit.

Can someone tell me what these are?

:: Replace fuse with extra/fuse2? [Y/n] y
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
:: xorg-server and xf86-input-acecad are in conflict (X-ABI-XINPUT_VERSION). Remove xf86-input-acecad? [y/N] y
:: xorg-server and xf86-input-joystick are in conflict (X-ABI-XINPUT_VERSION). Remove xf86-input-joystick? [y/N] y

I went fuck it yes during my Manjaro's sudo pacman -Syu update.

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>>58742615
What really gets me about windows the most are ads really. Every major update they come back after I turn the settings off and the desktop never truly feels like it's mine because of it. So I was thinking about using xubuntu for general tasks and windows for vidya mostly.

>>58742754
looks like your xorg-server version and xf86-input-<those crap> versions are not in sync.maybe they were still being updated on your mirror?

I've got Mint Mate on a USB. I have literally zero experience with Linux distros, is mint any good? I'm just looking for something easy to use, aesthetic, and somewhat decently easy to keep secure and protected.

I've tried doing my own research but that just digs the hole deeper, if you get what I mean.

>>58742754
all of those have been merged in to xinput.
Read your OS's news list on how to proceed.

Or just remove all those extra no longer maintaned packages in favor of xinput

>>58742754
FUSE is something that helps various services and actual filesystems show themselves as proper Linux filesystem. For instance, to actually "mount" some cloud addresses from AWS into /some/path/on/filesystem, you might be using FUSE. Likewise for ntfs-3g or a zfs implementation. Updating it should be preferable.

I think the other two are xorg drivers that got deprecated or have been compiled by your distro against the wrong versions of xorg.

>>58742751
Think I'll try it just see what it's all about mostly.

>>58742798
>and somewhat decently easy to keep secure and protected.

time to forget about mint then. Just use plain ubuntu/any of the major ubuntu flavours, LTS.

>>58742754
Looks like tablet and joystick dependencies. They were probably bundled/included with a package that was depreciated.

>>58742823
I've read multiple things about Ubuntu users being tracked by some private company? Is that legit or....

>>58742803
Sure, go ahead.

But for most people like you who just run a handful of software with no further needs (at least that's how it sounded), it'll be an experience a bit like, dunno, comparing one train station or airport to another?

Maybe it feels really good to be off the annoying airport/train station, but if you weren't annoyed it'll often feel ~the same even if they actually have massively different capabilities.

>>58742900
Default Ubuntu DE (which is shit anyway) included amazon search results. It doesn't anymore and you can (should) just get a different DE anyway.

>>58742570
The desktop is yours and so is the system. Faster. Def more comfy. Sure you'll have to learn to tinker a bit but you get full control in return.

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Which distro will give me the best battery life on pic related?
Bonus points for up-to-date repos(plz no Debian) and easily installable third party tools(IntelliJ,android studio, slack, chromium etc.)

>>58743558
use architect to install arch

>>58743601
How long is the battery life last with arch? I was on fedora for 2 years and it ruined my laptop's battery imo. My laptop is a dell inspiron 15 3542 which I got in 2014, used to get ~6 hrs battery life easily, now max 3 hrs. I was using laptop-tools but it did'nt really help, same thing on debian when I tried it for a month.

>>58742498
It depends on your window manager.

>>58743674
>>58743674
that depends on several variables, that aren't distro specific, i.e. your de/wm, what programs and services you have running etc... I'm on arch xfce pretty generic setup and it's a computer I got used and you know what that usually means for the battery, well I get a good two to three hours of battery life. so make of that what you will

>>58743558
You haven't heard of Debian testing/unstable?

>>58743754
Are the testing packages as stable as those on fedora? Fedora's packages were always cutting edge but I never had any stability issues with them.

>>58743751
I was on generic gnome with fedora, used atom and IntelliJ a shit ton which probably did'nt help as well as running MariaDB and Apache so I could test my web app plus a chromium for stack overflow, What de/wm would you recommend? Or any programs that would use less battery.

>>58743674
> used to get ~6 hrs battery life easily, now max 3 hrs
I think the OS doesn't control a laptop's battery charging circuitry or powered operation in a way that it can fuck your battery life directly?

| Freedom Road > >>58743904

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>>58742734
mate
ps:
>Just add a few more workspaces
I often forget that these panels actually hold functionality. I looked everywhere else and right-clicked the desktop right before trying the menu.

Thanks breh.
>>58743749
it's metacity (marco)

>>58734655

>>58734753 beat me to it but I was going to say RHEL admins who want RHEL at home but don't want to deal with licensing.

But CentOS and OpenSUSE have always been close enough for me.

who else pronounce gen2oo with a soft 'g'?

>>58744297
yea man that's how it's pronounced

>>58744297
It's certainly not CH-entoo or such? Yea, you do pronounce it with a soft g. Same as the penguin.

>>58734914
run-dmc vs jason nevis, "It's like that" playing it my head.

I like it.

>>58744416 (cont'd)
WP on the penguin:
> gentoo penguin (/ˈdʒɛntuː/ JEN-too)

Soft g.

>>58744397
>>58744416
>>58744434
woops, meant a hard 'g'
like:
>give
>get
>gather

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>>58744482
Yea. Either way, there's phonetic and what they came up with for regular English speakers here >>58744434

Should solve it.

Why don't they just stop making 100 distros and all collaborate on one so that it might actually compare to winblows or osx?

>>58744763
Because YOUR distro SUCKS and MY distro is obviously the BEST!

Should I try to download drivers separately before installing debian or just let it handle it?